Dominatrix for Democracy

Summary

Podcast Summary: "Dominatrix for Democracy"

Podcast: I've Had It

Hosts: Jennifer Welch & Angie “Pumps” Sullivan

Date: June 25, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this sharp, comedic, and irreverently political episode of “I’ve Had It,” hosts Jennifer Welch and Angie “Pumps” Sullivan dig into everything from swimsuit shopping woes and online policing of language to the latest conservative scandals involving “Big Titty Brian.” The duo fields stories and questions from listeners, going off on cultural hypocrisy, MAGA women, and flag hysteria, all while keeping the tone delightfully unfiltered. The hosts’ banter offers comfort, catharsis, and comic relief for those exasperated by the current political and social climate.

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Key Discussion Points & Notable Moments

1. The Bathing Suit Dilemma and the Saga of the Missing Tankini

[01:52–05:01]

• Pumps vents her frustration with bathing suit shopping, citing issues with fit and body image: “The Sagging dragons create a huge issue...you get a cute top...but then when your boobs are your belly button it’s not as cute.” (02:00)
• The disappearance of the tankini—a longtime favorite for Pumps—is lamented. “Tankinis have just disappeared from the universe...I just really feel like there’s nothing [for women with saggy boobs and fluffy stomachs]. Somebody do that.” (02:58)
• Pumps also shares a new “hack” of pulling the crotch of a one-piece aside to pee, a method that feels “weird” and risky: “...risk the entire bee showing up from this side profile...” (03:26)
• Jennifer reassures: “Nobody rocks a tankini like you do.” (04:26)

2. Policing Language on the Left and the Power of “Pussy”

[05:02–10:01]

• Jennifer rants about left-wing pearl clutching over using “pussy” to describe MAGA figures: “At this stage in the fascist takeover, when the fascists are pussies, we call them what they are. They need to be humiliated and shamed.” (06:08)
• Pumps and Jennifer defend terms like “titty baby” and “cunt,” noting the distinct cultural meanings in places like the UK and Australia versus puritanical America.
  • Jennifer: “There are words that are horrible, but ‘pissy’ and ‘titty,’ I mean come on. You just can’t take everything away from everybody.” (08:37)
• The hosts call for lightening up about in-fighting on the left: “Pump the brakes on correcting people... it’s just a waste of time.” (09:21)

3. Listener Comments: Building a Chosen Family

[11:01–11:47]

• The hosts read touching listener feedback, highlighting the community aspect of the show:
  • Char: “You guys feel like my honorary moms...you never fail to make me feel better.” (11:21)
• Jennifer expresses deep empathy for listeners experiencing family rejection: “It’s just such a massive problem.” (11:47)

4. Pumps in a Cup: The Iconic Story

[12:19–15:41]

• Listeners demand a retelling of “Pumps in a Cup.” Pumps recounts a mortifying emergency bathroom moment—forced to use a styrofoam cup while driving her teenage son: “I hiked up my ass in my driver’s seat and took a steaming shit in a white styrofoam cup.” (13:06)
• Jennifer shares her own vivid memories of Pumps’ legendary “bowel incontinence.”
• This bit is a classic for longtime fans, reinforcing the hosts’ commitment to radical honesty and humor, even about bodily functions.

5. Politics & “Big Titty Brian”: MAGA Scandal Deep Dive

[16:20–21:48]

• Jennifer and Pumps gleefully dissect the ongoing saga of “Big Titty Brian,” the cross-dressing husband of former Homeland Security secretary Kristi Noem.
  • Latest revelations: Brian continued his dominatrix communications after the scandal broke: “He’s probably just dying to text ‘I’ve been a really bad boy’... because I’m still a trans bimbo slut.” (18:24)
  • Jennifer muses: “I just think it’s rather interesting that MAGA has not really addressed this... I want to hear Jesse Waters, Tucker and others go into painstaking detail.”
• The hypocrisy of MAGA’s silence on the scandal—contrasted with their moralizing on gender and sexuality—gets roasted.
• Favorite Quote:
  • Jennifer: “I want a detailed breakdown of the prayer. Specifically... do you pray that Big Titty Brian no longer likes big titties anymore? Do you pray that God give you the strength not to bang Corey Lewandowski anymore?” (20:49)

6. Conservative Hypocrisy, Women's Choices, and Online Discourse

[26:45–36:42]

• Jennifer highlights right-wing outrage over Anne Hathaway’s pregnancy at 43 while MAGA men father children into their 50s/60s: “Of course they’re freaking out about Anne Hathaway having a baby because Anne Hathaway isn’t a MAGA nut.” (27:16)
• Online misogyny is skewered:
  • Listener comment read by Jennifer: “Gets pregnant as a teen = slut, whore. Gets pregnant older = she’s wrong. Doesn’t want to get pregnant = slut. Uses birth control = whore. Doesn’t use it = irresponsible...” (29:45)
• Jennifer and Pumps highlight the fundamental contradiction: the party rails against low birth rates yet shames women for any reproductive decision.
• The drive for conformity versus diversity:
  • Jennifer: “Their fight for everybody to be the same person...You literally cannot distinguish from one woman to the next.” (32:35)
  • Stories of clandestine sexual rebellion (midlife lesbianism, happy-ending massages) among evangelical women illustrate the underlying repression.
• On personal financial independence for women: “Always have your own money...That’s what works for me. The women I have known that have gone all chips in on their husbands...typically they’re not really free.” (35:13)

7. Listeners’ Grievances & Cultural Satire

[37:18–50:18]

• Group Fitness Class Culture:
  • Caller “Equal Parts” rants about over-energy, forced camaraderie, and performative friendliness at gym classes: “...an epidemic of instructors who have just lost their minds...you don’t need to be on cocaine for this class.” (37:23)
  • Pumps and Jennifer agree with the aversion to “roll call” or unnecessary intimacy: “Why are we taking roll call? ...We're never going to [see each other again].” (38:57)
  • Anecdote: Jennifer attended a class with a “great” gay British instructor in NYC—who turned out to be MAGA, much to her dismay.
  • Discussion of the “luxury” of political tolerance in blue cities vs. existential threats in red states.
• Flag Discourse and American Patriotism:
  • Listener Drew coins a new move—referring to MAGA/America flags as “Pride flags” to confuse flag-wavers. (43:31)
  • The hosts express complicated feelings toward the flag and American patriotism:
    • Jennifer: “I kind of want to burn an American flag.” (45:51)
    • Speculation on the Fox News media meltdown that would result if Jennifer did burn a flag.
• Violence as Kink Theory:
  • Discussion of conservative pundits’ apparent desire to be shamed or physically dominated, joking that “kicking their asses” would backfire because “they’d enjoy it.” (48:26)

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Notable Quotes & Moments with Timestamps

• “Tankinis have just disappeared from the universe...somebody do that.” —Pumps [02:58]
• “At this stage in the fascist takeover, when the fascists are pussies, we call them what they are.” —Jennifer [06:08]
• “I pulled over and I hiked up my ass in my driver’s seat and took a steaming shit in a white styrofoam cup.” —Pumps [13:06]
• “I just think it’s rather interesting that MAGA has not really addressed this Big Titty Brian debacle. I want it addressed. I want to hear Jesse Waters, Tucker and others go into painstaking detail about this for entertainment.” —Jennifer [19:23]
• “Do you pray that Big Titty Brian no longer likes big titties anymore? Do you pray that God give you the strength not to bang Corey Lewandowski anymore?” —Jennifer [20:49]
• “If you want to be a stay at home mom, swing for the fences... don’t project your misery onto everybody else.” —Jennifer [31:24]
• “I love disagreement. I love diversity...Their fight for everybody to be the same person, I can’t wrap my head around it...” —Jennifer [32:35]
• “Here’s the deal: when I was made an executive order, I did.” —Pumps, riffing on Trump and flag burning [45:59]
• “If you’re fist-fighting Jesse Waters and Jesse Waters gets an erection, who wins?” —Jennifer [49:26]

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Episode Flow & Tone

• Language: Unapologetically explicit, dryly humorous, often satirical with use of slang, swearing, and playful insults; very much “best friends venting over cocktails” energy.
• Feeling: Candid, raucous, cathartically angry at hypocrisy, but deeply empathetic toward listeners experiencing hardship.
• Structure: Alternates between personal anecdotes, political/cultural commentary, and listener engagement; rapid-fire banter with plenty of callbacks and running gags.
• Purpose: To give listeners both a sense of solidarity (“you’re not alone in this madness”) and comic relief—while skewering the hypocrisy and repression of MAGA America.

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 01:52–05:01: Swimsuit shopping, tankini woes
• 05:02–10:01: Policing language on the left, defending “pussy” & “titty baby”
• 11:01–11:47: Listener stories of family, chosen family
• 12:19–15:41: "Pumps in a Cup" story
• 16:20–21:48: The “Big Titty Brian” MAGA scandal
• 26:45–36:42: Anne Hathaway, misogyny, reproductive rights, conformity vs. diversity
• 37:18–42:30: Listener calls (group fitness classes, NYC MAGA instructor)
• 43:31–50:18: Flags, patriotism, violent fantasies as codependent kink

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Takeaways

• Swimsuit shopping is a microcosm of women’s body image frustrations and fashion’s disregard for real bodies.
• The left’s self-policing of language and micro-corrections are less urgent than fighting actual fascism.
• Personal stories (whether poop emergencies or parental rejection) build solidarity among listeners.
• Hypocrisy in right-wing rhetoric about gender roles, sexuality, and women’s choices is endless—and ripe for mockery.
• The fight for conformity among conservative women makes true diversity and freedom impossible.
• Sometimes, the most cathartic thing is to just laugh, swear, and call out hypocrisy—preferably with a friend, and unfiltered.

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For fans or new listeners, this episode is a perfect distillation of what makes “I’ve Had It” an essential listen in fraught times: smart, hilarious, and never pulling a punch.

Transcript

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so

[Jennifer]

are we supposed to start the podcast?

[Pumps]

Ready 1, 2, 3 Patriots gay trots,

[Jennifer]

they Black Trio, Brown Trio we love you. All of MAGA can do what? Pumps, pumps. What have you had it with?

[Pumps]

What I've had it with is bathing suit shopping. It has just been a minefield for me. The Sagging dragons create a huge issue when bathing suit shopping because you get a cute top and it's super cute. But then when your boobs are your belly button it's not as cute. And so then I'm noticing like the super high cats on the one piece and like my, it just, it's disastrous for me. Bathing suit shopping. It just is the stomach. We can't, I can't even talk about the stomach. But I was going through, I mean I even went to the fucking mall. That's how desperate I am. And I was in there and I was just like no, none of these are going to work. So I'm just really on the struggle bus with the bathing suit shopping. So I've just had it. I I really feel like there's nothing. Like you have saggy boobs if your stomach is fluffy. We need to design for those women. Somebody do that.

[Jennifer]

I've always seen you when we go to Mexico and these like tankinis and they always look so cute on you.

[Pumps]

That's the thing. It's like tankinis have just disappeared from the universe.

[Jennifer]

And even though jam and they look so good on you, it's my whole

[Pumps]

jam, and I cannot find any. And I'm just really reluctant to buy one piece and pull the thing over. I mean, I know I just learned about it, and maybe it's super normal for. For people, but I just feel like I'm going to get a saggy crotch, so I'm just struggling.

[Jennifer]

Why don't you elaborate for the listener on what the pull the thing over means?

[Pumps]

Okay, so I always have shied away from a one piece because I thought you had to completely undress yourself every time you had to pee. My girlfriend Liz says, no, you just pull it over like the crotch over and pee. I'd never heard this before, and I did. I mean, I've done it once or twice, but it just feels weird, so. But my options are completely get nake it in a public restroom or pull my crotch over and risk the entire bee showing up from this side profile and me not knowing it. So I'm just. I'm struggling. So I've had it with bathing suits.

[Jennifer]

I think what's more alarming is the disappearance of the tankini from the I. I. That was your jam. You look so cute in them.

[Pumps]

I want a tankini. I don't want to show my stomach because it looks like a. Just a big goo brain. It looks like a brain that was just plopped on my stomach. Just like wrinkly and crepey and ugh. But the tanky, the lack of tankini has just really been a problem for me.

[Jennifer]

Nobody rocks a tankini like you do. They look so good on you.

[Pumps]

And I feel like tankinis have a little more support for the girls because a regular bathing suit, like a. Obviously I can't wear a swimsuit because the brain on my stomach. But I feel like you get more support when you have a tankini and

[Jennifer]

you can't find a one. Not one.

[Pumps]

I mean, I have found a couple that they're lackluster at best. So I don't know. It's a struggle. The struggle is real.

[Jennifer]

All right, I've had it. I'm sorry about that because that's really frustrating and the tankini was like, it was your go to.

[Pumps]

For years.

[Jennifer]

For years. They always look great on you. I've had it with people over policing in this moment, and here's an example. Pumps and I were on a podcast a couple days ago, and it was. I think it's called Dry Air with Steve Schmidt and his partner. Not gay partner, podcast partner. I'm digging it right here. I'm digging in it. But anyway, his podcast partner. And we were calling J.D. vance a pussy, and they were like, we need to take that word back. Like, you know, we. We think that's what they need to be called. But then there's like, you know, Dolores online from, you know, Toledo, Ohio, who's mad about it. And I just think that, like. And I've gotten those comments like, ladies, don't call a MAGA man a pussy. A pussy gives birth, and it is a strong, great organ and we need to embrace it and blah, blah, blah. And in a perfect world.

[Pumps]

Yeah.

[Jennifer]

Where we have nothing to get upset about, I'm all for it. Let's have the conversation. Correct me. Let's talk about, should we call a man A? Should we not call a man A? Is it PC? Is it not PC? I welcome it. I welcome that problem. I welcome that policing. At this stage in the fascist takeover, when the fascists are pussies, we call them what they are. And here's the thing, they need to be humiliated and shamed. And like, Stephen Miller is a pussy, and he needs to be called a pussy. And nothing hits that hard as saying, Stephen Miller is a pussy. There's. If you can give me another word, another phrase that would define what a wuss bag that guy is. He was. Bag doesn't do it. It just doesn't even come close. So I've had it with that. And I. I welcome the time where everything's so great with the government, everybody's got health care, minimum wage has been raised, and billionaires are paying their fair share in taxes. It's equality for everybody all across the board. Hammer at it. Let's get a hall monitor on the Internet calling my ass out left and right. I'll welcome it. I'll sit down, I'll go to tribunals over it. I'll try to make my case. I would even serve a stint in, like, you know, online jail timeout or whatever for violating this. But now is not the time to do that. Now is not the time to cry. Wrecked everybody online. When they're on your side, it's just a waste of time. I Completely agree.

[Pumps]

And I think another word that I see a lot of comments about, they get mad that we say titty baby. It's just like, what else are they? Cunt. These.

[Jennifer]

Who gets mad about titty baby? People in the comments.

[Pumps]

Comments like, I just wish you wouldn't say titty. And I'm just like, shut the up. Like we have bigger fish to fry. I mean, seriously, you're going to be mad about that. I also think the word cunt's underused and everybody acts like it's just so, just such a bad word.

[Jennifer]

Well, you know, pims, there's a cultural thing, like in the uk, in Australia, cunt is like the way we use asshole or bitch.

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Right.

[Jennifer]

But here I think it's like the puritan culture that we have about using certain words. And I agree there are words that are horrible, but pissy and titty, I mean, come on, you just can't take everything away from everybody.

[Pumps]

No, you, you can't take democracy.

[Jennifer]

As a woman, I think we get to call somebody.

[Pumps]

I completely agree. I think that, I think it's very well used.

[Jennifer]

And I think titty baby. I mean, that's just that I, I'll fight to the death to keep titty baby.

[Pumps]

Yeah, we've always said titty baby. Always, always titty. That's just a titty baby. You're just crying around and whining around and you're a victim. You're just a titty baby. I mean, we must have called my ex husband a titty baby up in the millions of times.

[Jennifer]

Oh yeah, he is still. I mean, to this day, we're still dealing with an active titty baby. But I just think like people on the left, if you pretty much agree with everybody on everything, pump the girl, pump the, the brakes on going in and, and correcting people for calling somebody like Stephen Miller or J.D. vance, a Marco Rubio. Ted Cruz. What is he pumps? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So I've, I've had it with that. I want people to lighten up about that. You know, it's stupid.

[Kylie]

All right.

[Jennifer]

Welcome to I've Had It, America's FIFA prize winning podcast. I just thought, I want to make up awards for us.

[Pumps]

Do you know that with our award we get to lift the championship trophy at FIFA? Like Trump has made a deal with FIFA that he'll be the first one to lift up the trophy at the end of the soccer games.

[Jennifer]

Please tell me that's not true.

[Pumps]

I read it. Now, I don't know, but would it surprise you? He took the Last. No.

[Jennifer]

It would surprise me if he could lift a trophy. Yes. Physically, the physical requirements of that would surprise me. But does it surprise me that he'll be trying to grandstand at some sporting event, getting booed? No, you're pro. I mean, that's. Yeah, I think you probably read correctly.

[Pumps]

Yeah. So I am Princess Diane of podcasting. That's from way back. I mean, you have to go all the way back in the podcast for that catalog reference.

[Jennifer]

All right, Kylie.

[Listener Comments Reader]

Hi. I've got a couple Spotify comments for you today. This one is from Abby and she says, you guys get me so hyped up to change things in this country. Thank you.

[Jennifer]

See there? Abby is not a. Daddy's not a.

[Pumps]

She's not.

[Jennifer]

No, Norright.

[Listener Comments Reader]

Char says I'm a 23 year old lesbian living in North Carolina, and my parents no longer have a relationship with me. After I came out, you guys feel like my honorary moms. And I listen to you guys every week. You guys never fail to make me feel better.

[Pumps]

That's so nice that that's one of my favorite. When people say that about us, that's what makes me the happiest about the whole podcast is feeling that we're reaching people.

[Jennifer]

So sorry for the rejection from your parents. That's so saddening. It's just absolutely so devastating that people reject their child for being who they gave birth to. It's just. It is such a. It's such a massive problem. It really, really makes me so incredibly sad for you, Char.

[Listener Comments Reader]

Okay. And the last one I've got is from Riley, and she says, I am begging and pleading for the story behind Pumps in a Cup. The end of this episode had me in tears.

[Jennifer]

Five stars.

[Pumps]

Oh, God.

[Jennifer]

Do I have to retell it? I'm afraid so.

[Pumps]

Okay, so I have a very. In fact, my girlfriend's from college, just sent me an Instagram video of a woman, like, driving, clinching her ass cheek, saying, oh my God, oh my God, I'm gonna shit my pants. Because everyone knows that sometimes I just get the urge and I'm like, I don't know what's gonna happen. I've got to go right now. So it was the summer. My oldest son, Sam, was not yet able to drive. I think he was a freshman in high school, and he was going to some practice during the summertime. So I loaded up him driving him to school, and I was on what we call Hefner Parkway, which is like a five lane highway. So, I mean, it really is a real highway. There's no place to pull over on it. And I get the urge, and I'm like, it's happening. It is happening right now. I cannot stop it. And so I'm like, pulling over to the side of the road, and I'm like, I am either gonna have to get on the side of the road and take a dump, or I always carry styrofoam cups of drinks. I did. I don't anymore, but I did. And. Or I can dump this water out and shit in this cab in the sanctity of my car, or my high. A freshman in high school, son is in the backseat. So faced with two very, very, very bad decisions, I probably, in retrospect, took the worst one. I chose poorly, even in the bad situation. And so I poured out my water through my driver's side window, and I hiked up my ass in my driver's seat and took a steaming shit in a white styrofoam cup. And I was telling my son in the back, look away, don't look, don't look. Turn around, look away, look away. And I suspect that I will spend many hours in therapy reliving that as he grows older, because that has got to be traumatic on so many different levels. So that. That's the story. I'm not proud of it, but it is true.

[Jennifer]

I, I, I think that your oldest. Because your bowel incontinence is so widely known and understood in people that know you. The very first time you and I ever had a moment together, you pulled over to a tire store and ran in, and you're like, I have diarrhea. I have diarrhea. We barely knew each other. And you pulled over and you ran into this store, like, big tire, big old tires or something, and just ripped it out and then came back in like, oh, my God, I feel so much better. And I was like, wow, that's really something. And so that's. I remember times when he would run over to my house uninvited, unannounced.

[Pumps]

Yeah.

[Jennifer]

And my poor housekeeper Berta, who's been with me forever, you would just go and drop your pants and right in front of her, if she were in

[Pumps]

my bathroom, I would just open the

[Jennifer]

door and go in.

[Pumps]

Yeah.

[Jennifer]

It's not pleasant.

[Pumps]

It's not pleasant. It's. It's not something I'm proud of, but it does. It does happen.

[Jennifer]

Speaking of things that aren't pleasant, I want to. Well, first of all, I want to say this. I want to say that this is. I've had a podcast for those of you that want political hits to know what's going on, pause this podcast. Go to wherever you get your podcast or to you YouTube and subscribe to I I hip news is the name of it. I hip news on YouTube. It all comes on one channel. But anyway, this is the one where we talk about pumps in a cup and more disturbing news. Big Titty Brian is back in the news.

[Pumps]

What I did not know.

[Jennifer]

Yeah, pop this up. The New York Post is reporting that Kristi Gnomes cross dressing hubby Brian allegedly continued messaging Dom Matrix after bombshell report. He says I've been a really bad boy. So the dominatrix is bringing receipts to these claims. Pop this up. Former Homeland Security secretary Kristi Gnomes cross dressing husband Brian, or as we refer to him here on I've had It and I Hip news. Big Titty Brian allegedly sent a pathetic sexually charged text message to a sex worker more than a month after his bizarre bimbofication fetish was exposed. In a bombshell report shy Sotomayor, a dominatrix who allegedly had a secret years long online tryst with Big Titty Brian, claimed the ex DHS secretary's husband reached out to her as recently as last month during an appearance on the podcast uncloseted with Spencer McNaughton and he big Titty Brian writes I've been a really bad boy on May 17th. And then now she's sharing how Christy Gnome may have caught him in the act. Let's pop this up. Soto Mayor further alleged that during a phone conversation she had with Big Titty Brian in January, she heard Kristi Gnome confront her husband about whom he was speaking to. It was a normal conversation and all I hear is who are you talking to? Sotomayor recalled suggesting that Christy had walked in on Big Titty Brian and I was just like that's a woman.

[Pumps]

Wow. So when was the big reveal? Was it like in March? Like all this came out in March.

[Jennifer]

And he still I don't remember the exact. But here's the thing. Of course he like, he likes a dominatrix. So the fact that he got in trouble for all of this is probably rather arousing for him. So he is probably just dying to text me like I've been a really bad boy. You know, I want you to punish me because I'm still a trans bimbo slut. Remember those are his words, not mine. Which here's the thing, like Big Titty Brian, I want Big Titty Brian to be able to put on his big titties and and have the dominatrix brow beat him and do all the stuff that he wants to do. I just think it's rather interesting that MAGA has not really addressed this. No, but I want MAGA to address it. I want MAGA to address the Big Titty Brian debacle. I want it addressed. I want to hear Jesse Waters, Tucker and others go in painstaking detail about this for entertainment.

[Pumps]

Waters might get it, might get excited just to hear about it. Yeah. I want Kristi Noem, A, to move out of government housing. That's one. But, baby B, I want to know the status of her relationship with Corey Leowski. What's going on with Big Titty? I mean, I. There's some things I want to know, and I think as long as she's living on the government tit, we as citizens should get to find out.

[Jennifer]

I'd like to have her on. I've had it.

[Pumps]

Oh, my gosh. Would that be fabulous?

[Listener Comments Reader]

Yeah.

[Jennifer]

I'd like to go over several things with her, starting with Cricket, the dog she killed the goat, Corey Lewandowski, all the Jesus that she, you know, sister and acts like she's this big Christian. And then I want to get to Big Titty Brian and like, yeah, cherry on top, right. Like, I just, I. I just. I don't care that he likes to put on big titties and wear women's clothes. I don't.

[Pumps]

I want.

[Jennifer]

If that's what he wants to do, It's a free country. You know, I'm not gonna shame you for that. I'm not gonna kink shame Big Titty Brian. But what I want to know is how she fits that into her. Her Christianity. Like, I want to know when she said where the families in prayer after Big Titty Brian was busted out of the closet. I want to know what are those prayers? Specifically, what specifically do you ask God for in that situation?

[Pumps]

Fabulous question and inquiry. Minds want to know that.

[Jennifer]

I want a detailed breakdown of the prayer. Specifically, do you pray that Big Titty Brian no longer likes big titties anymore? Do you pray that God give you the strength not to bang Corey Lewandowski anymore? Like, what specifically are the prayers? Is what I'm more interested in with all of the MAGA Christians. I specifically want to know what their prayers are.

[Pumps]

Oh, that is just. I can't think of anything else except what good questions would be. What is in that prayer? What? I. I just. Jennifer, that might be my favorite thing you've said in a long, long time.

[Jennifer]

I. I need to know what Is it. What do you. When they're all gathered and it's all thoughts and prayers, like, what's everybody praying about? Like, what is it a list? Like, Lindsey Graham, what does he pray about? You know, I, I think Ted Cruz, what's Ted praying about?

[Pumps]

I want to know. Great question.

[Jennifer]

Because I want word for word sitch.

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[Jennifer]

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[Pumps]

Yeah, he is.

[Jennifer]

Like, I would appreciate Ted Cruz if it was like, Jesus, could you help me not be such a anymore? Could you help me stand up for Heidi?

[Pumps]

Right.

[Jennifer]

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[Kylie]

Kylie.

[Jennifer]

Can we not normalize having kids at 40? My parents had me at 40 and my Oma had will never know the adult version of me, okay? So of course she has. These MAGA women are such narcissists. She makes Anne Hathaway's pregnancy about her and her grandmother. Like, it's just textbook narcissism, right? Anne Hathaway's pregnancy isn't about you, Jess. So Anne Hathaway is 43 years old. Donald Trump was 59 years old when Barron was born. Caroline Levitt's baby daddy is 60. Elon Musk, 53 when he had his most recent child in his litter. Usha Vance is pregnant at 40. She's pregnant at 40 right now. So per this MAGA influencer, women shouldn't be breeding at 40. And JD recently spoke about the complications that Usha is having.

[Pumps]

Play the clip.

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[Jennifer]

She just turned 40.

[McDonald's FIFA Ad Voice]

And so, like, it gets a little bit harder, right?

[Jennifer]

The older that you get, the harder

[McDonald's FIFA Ad Voice]

it is on the body.

[Jennifer]

So here's the thing about these MAGA people. They believe in nothing. They believe in nothing. Of course they're freaking out about Anne Hathaway having a baby because Anne Hathaway isn't a MAGA nut. So anytime they can criticize a woman that is independent, that has a job, that is showing that she can have a baby at 43 and doesn't have to JD Vance or Stephen Miller to do it or go into a put their egg in a petri dish with Elon Musk to do it. They have to browbeat that. It's so horrific, the internalized misogyny that these MAGA women have, the slut shaming that they engage in with other women, the protection of the patriarchy and all of these structures grosses me out. But Twitter has been roasting this gal, this MAGA lady that's upset about her grandma not getting to see her as an adult. What is so weird? All right, here's the first one. Somebody says, oh, that's such a lucky break for your oma.

[Listener Comments Reader]

Okay?

[Jennifer]

And then somebody else comments White people are low key, dramatic as hell about their grandparents. It's so true. And then somebody else responds, wow, you guys definitely don't give women a break. Gets pregnant as a teen equals slut, whore. Gets pregnant older, equals she's wrong, doesn't want to get pregnant equals slut. Uses birth control equals whore, doesn't use it, equals irresponsible. Get an abortion, you're a murderer. Puts up for adoption equals irresponsible. And that's just the damn truth. The through line through all of this is, is maga's critiques of women and most of them coming from the women in the movement. Which is why when people say women supporting women, I don't support these mega women at all. Not, not one thing about anything that they promote. They promote for the dismantling of all progress that women have made. And I don't support them at all. And I know a lot of these women and I can tell those of you that live on the coast, if you met them, you wouldn't support them either.

[Pumps]

It's not hard not to support them. And here's the thing, weren't that, isn't this the party that's going crazy over on Fox News about the low birth rate and how everybody needs to be having babies and why aren't that the teenage like 15 to 19? It's down to 7%. Katie Miller's hysterical over teens not having pregnant. I mean, not having babies. Like I, you just can't make these people happy. And I guess it just goes back to what you always say. They just have no, they have no really core beliefs or conviction about anything.

[Jennifer]

Well, just chime back in again. And she does have a core belief and here it is. So she says women should stay home and the men should provide. If we deport tens of millions of illegals and get women out of the workforce, the economy will balance out to a single provider system again. And here's the difference, like as a progressive woman, if Jess, if Katie Miller, if Usha Vance, if Big Titty Brian, any of these people, you can do whatever you want to do. It's not my business. If you want to be a stay at home mom, swing for the fences. You want to go to a million Bible studies and you know, try to pray because your husband wants to be a trans bimbo slut and try to reconcile that swing for the fences, I don't give a about it. Don't project your misery onto everybody else. And that's the compulsion with evangelical Christians. There is a compulsion that they Think what other people do is their business. They're always up in. Everybody's trying to convert people, judging people. You should do this, you should do that, you should say this, you should say that. Shut the up, go to your Bible study, go do missionary with your husband before he gets to his Grinder app and leave everybody else out of it. Like if this, if somebody wants to be a trad wife, I don't really care. What I care about is everybody in the maga movement. They want everybody to be the same person. They want everybody to believe the same things, have the same thoughts, have the same political beliefs, religious beliefs, the same personality, the same life. Like it's just a vanilla bore that I can't wrap my head around that people will fight for that. Like I love disagreement. I love diversity. I love everybody having different takes on stuff like their, their fight for everybody to be the same person. I've lived around these women. You literally cannot distinguish from one woman to the next. They're all the exact same person. It is Stepford mania, boredom out the wazoo. And then guess what happens? Pumps. And I can tell you, these women, we found out a bunch of these Bible women, they're going to like midlife lesbianism switch, which I support. Not my business. Or remember that one gal that was running around going to like, she started going to massage parlors and having some guy get her off. Which again I. Yeah, yeah, yeah, this.

[Pumps]

Okay, so this is a true story. Happy ending massages became a thing in this group. There was a place in the city you could get a happy ending massage. And it was like several women were going that I knew. I mean, and they, they were talking about it openly. It wasn't like I heard it through the grapevine. I heard it from their mouths. So it's just. Here's the thing. When I, and I don't know why I always think about this. Like they want everybody to have their religion, but they are. You absolutely cannot suggest that they should be in your religion or should not have a religion. It has to be what they think and they believe. And I just, I mean I've talked about a million times, but that is how I was raised to believe that everyone would be better off and I would be doing somebody a favor if I brought them into the church. Never was it given a thing, thought that somebody's independent. What their beliefs was important as your beliefs for them. So your beliefs to you are important, but my beliefs are more important for you. That's the fundamental thing. And, and it's just it's just repeated indoctrination over and over that you should be able to tell other people how to live their lives.

[Jennifer]

And they're doing it. They're doing it now from the highest pillars of executive rule, the Supreme Court, the executive branch, Congress. They're doing this. And this is one of those things that if you went to a therapist and you said, I have this friend and she keeps bugging me, wanting me to believe the way she believes, and I've drawn a boundary with her multiple times and she doesn't respect my boundaries, therapist would say, quit hanging out with her. You know, like, don't hang out with this individual anymore because they're not respecting your boundaries. There's an arrogance to it that they think they know the answers to all existentialism, which is so breathtakingly arrogant, narcissistic and stupid. But, but this, these women that are fighting so hard for women to all be stay at home moms. Like, I'm not fighting for all women to have jobs. I advise young people that ask me like, God, I really like you or you know, how did you do it? I'm like, always have your own money. That's been an answer for me. That's what works for me. The women that I have known that have gone all chips in on their husbands don't. There are, there's exception to everything, but typically they're not really free.

[Pumps]

Right. I would absolutely agree with that because I've been that person. You do not have control over your own life if you do not have control over money.

[Jennifer]

Yeah. All right, so that's, I just, I do want to say to Anne Hathaway, good for you. I said her, her. And, and it's nobody's business when she has a baby. It's incredible that they're more upset about a 43 year old woman having a baby than they are about a rape victim that's 15 years old in the Bible belt having a baby. It's right by her uncle or dad or stepdad. These women, these MAGA Christians are not upset about that, but they're upset about Anne Hathaway. It's crazy. All right, let's hear a caller.

[Listener Comments Reader]

Okay. Up next, we've got equal parts on Instagram.

[Kylie]

Okay. I've had it with fitness instructors pretty much writ large with very few exceptions because I'm a big gym goer, of course, non maga of course. Not very bro y about it. But I love going to the gym. Huge part of my routine. I love, love going to classes. But finding an Instructor that is a moderate energy level and encouraging, but not someone who seems to be on cocaine is impossible. And I've traveled near and far to studios around my city and elsewhere, and there is an epidemic of instructors who have just lost their minds. And along those lines, instructors that want to talk your ear off and small talk and know your name and know you personally. And I don't want any of that. I want to show up, tell me the reps, tell me the routine, we'll do it. I'll say thank you, and you don't need to know me, you don't need to know me, and you don't need to be on cocaine for this class.

[Pumps]

Thank you. Oh, my God. Here's the deal. I was just in a class yesterday and somebody came up and introduced themselves to me. So I said my name and I was just like, why are we taking roll call? We're never going to.

[Jennifer]

Why do we have to know each

[Pumps]

other's names in this class? So I completely, completely get that. Oh, my gosh. And I'm just. I love going to classes, but I am so bad at class that the slower the instructor goes, the better it is for me because I cannot tell my left from right side. I can't count and I have no musicality. So you can tell I'm super popular at these classes.

[Jennifer]

Was the person that introduced himself the instructor or a classmate?

[Pumps]

No, a classmate. And this is the second time in this class somebody's introduced themselves.

[Jennifer]

Maybe they're a listener. Maybe they listen to you. No, no, not in Oklahoma.

[Pumps]

No. I've had people in my classes introduce themselves. This was not that. This was just how I'm going to be friendly and welcoming to the class. It's like, we're all here. I don't know. I agree with her.

[Jennifer]

Yeah, I don't do a whole lot of classes because I don't like group activities. I'm trying to spend less time with people, not more time. So I do. I like one on one training. But I. I did go to a couple of classes in New York recently and there was this like gay British instructor and he was so great and he was incredible. And I went with these two gay friends of mine and I was like, I really like that instructor.

[Listener Comments Reader]

He's great.

[Jennifer]

And they're like, he's maga. I was like, what? Yes, that's. And so I was like, I need to know. So it's like some sort of like gay muscle man bear for MAGA type British niche thing. Is that not crazy?

[Pumps]

I would have Never guessed that you would have said that.

[Jennifer]

I haven't gone back to his class since.

[Pumps]

No, I wouldn't either. If I cannot wait.

[Jennifer]

Yeah, I can't. Because I just think that

[Pumps]

for a

[Jennifer]

lot of people, being a MAGA is a luxury that they don't realize, you know, like a lot of white women. Yeah, yeah, you can be maga. You can vote for less of a, you know, tax that you want. You don't have to worry about gay rights or interracial marriage because you live in this beautiful blue state. Well, then how could that apply to a British gay man in New York? Well, he's in New York. Zor momdani is going to spend millions of dollars making New York City a sanctuary city for the LGBTQ plus community. He put like a person charge of LGBTQ stuff for the city. And so you have a luxury to not feel under threat, but then you transfer that to an Oklahoma, a Texas, a Mississippi, an Alabama, a Florida, a Tennessee. God, Tennessee. And then you don't have that luxury to have that type of curiosity into, like, what it's like to just be maca. And so, yeah, I, I don't. I don't. I don't go to a whole lot of classes because four years I've opposed group activities, which is why I've never been on a cruise, which I'll never

[Pumps]

go on a cruise if you ever find out.

[Jennifer]

I don't like group activities. I just, I don't like. I like walking the streets of New York with thousands, millions of people. Love it because everybody's doing their own thing. Not the same thing at the same time, but like a group of people that have to do everything together at the same time. I don't know, but I was thinking about, you know, here comes the hypocrite in me. There's like a hip hop aerobic class this weekend. I was thinking about hitting that up.

[Pumps]

You'd be good at that. You're good with music, you're a good dancer. Like, you're. I think you'd be good at classes. I like classes, but I'm not good at classes. And one thing just made me think of this. I saw a clip from Fox News. They're like, people are coming to the US for the World cup because they love it, they're loving it. And I think it was Jessica Tarlov was like, they're in Boston, they're in New York, they're in la, they're in all the big blue cities. They are not in Guyman, Oklahoma, just loving it. So Yeah, I think I agree it's a luxury to live in a blue city. It really is.

[Listener Comments Reader]

It is.

[Jennifer]

It's a. It's a necessary thing having having these big blue cities inspirational and both aspirational. But people here don't realize when they flirt with MAGA what they're doing.

[Pumps]

Yeah.

[Listener Comments Reader]

Okay, one last one is from Drew.

[Drew (Listener Caller)]

Hey, Kylie. Hey, Seth. Hey, Ryan. Hey, Jen. And hey, Pumps and whoever else I'm missing. I don't know. This is a gatriot from the lovely red state of Iowa. Anyway, I know there's probably been already a lot of talk on the podcast of people being they're having it with all the 250th anniversary, birthday, whatever, the flags and all that, but I just want to do one better. I recently started doing a little thing, and anytime I see any America flags or anything mag coded as far as signs, flags, whatever, I started to say it. Like, if I see the person that owns said flag, I say, oh, cool. Pride flag. And it is so delicious. I love it so much. I think everybody should do this.

[Pumps]

Trump 2028. I love your pride flag. Can you imagine? They're so confused. They're just so confused.

[Jennifer]

Yeah, I think that flags are stupid. I think everybody getting worked up or flags is stupid. The Supreme Court justice's wife had all these flags, and it's just flags are overrated. People get flags. I love the pride flag. I love the American flag. I'm just not a big flag person, you know, but for some people, it's like this flag. I fought for this flag, and it means my freedom, my grenade of the eagle, hold the flag and my patriot. I'm just like, shut the up. It's just a piece of fabric. I just don't get riled up that much about like that.

[Pumps]

Yeah, I don't either. And I'll be, you know, I've said it once, I'll say it again. I just. I have such complicated feelings about the flag. About 4th of July, about the 250th birthday. I just have super complicated feelings about it.

[Jennifer]

I kind of want to burn an American flag.

[Pumps]

Well, you know, I know he can't arrest.

[Jennifer]

No, it's free speech.

[Pumps]

So when I was made an executive order, I did.

[Jennifer]

When I was in high school, I was on the debate team, which will surprise no one. We did Lincoln Douglas debate. We debated one year over flag burning. And you have to take both the affirmative position. When you debate one person, the very next debate, you take the negative position. And so you have to debate both sides of it it. But the Supreme Court had ruled at some point that it was, it was protected.

[Pumps]

Yes.

[Jennifer]

And so I never really, I've never been an arsonist or a pyro or anything like that. I've never been that big into flags. But at this stage in the whole MAGA thing, kind of want to burn a flag, see what happens, do you know?

[Pumps]

I'll tell you exactly what would happen, Jennifer, if you burned a flag. It would be the lead story on Fox News for days on end. Jesse Waters and Greg Gatfield. Oh, my God.

[Jennifer]

I would do it if they would have me on in person to talk about it in person. But they're too big. No, there you go. They're too big of to do it. Like, I had Hassan piker on recently and his favorite show is the Five. He watches it every day with his stream and they cover him. Like every single day they cover Hassan and he's dying to go on and they're too big of to ask him to come on.

[Pumps]

They would never. No, never. They would never have you either because you're too smart, too well spoken.

[Jennifer]

Would you go on there?

[Pumps]

Would I go on there? Yeah. No, I wouldn't.

[Jennifer]

You would.

[Pumps]

I would want you to go on there because you're better at all that. You're better. I mean, you're better at that.

[Jennifer]

Would you go with me and like, sit backstage?

[Pumps]

Oh, my God, I would go with you so hard. I would go so hard with you. I would be all over it. I would be taking pictures. All. Yes, I would do all of it.

[Jennifer]

Here's the deal. What if we burn the flag, okay. And you go with me and I comment. And then Jesse would ask you, so we understand your parents are Big Five fans. What do you say about you and your co hosts, unpaid, you know, anti American unpatriotic behavior? What if you looked at him, you said no comment? Just over and over, no comment with your vape.

[Pumps]

Or how about, Jesse, you're a. My girl here, she's got more balls.

[Jennifer]

Here's the thing about all of that. Like, I think about, I've never been in a physical fight. Like, I've never punched somebody and I've never been punched. But I think about, like when I saw that James Dolan act like such a little twat on the stage with Sauron, I thought, I physically want to beat him up. Like, I feel like I could scrap it up and I feel like I could. I feel like I work out a lot more than he does. I'm in better shape I feel like I'm more passionate about hating him than he is me. And I feel like I could kick his ass. But here's the problem with that. James Dolan, Jesse Waters, Craig Gutfeld. I think they'd like it. That's the problem. I think these people are to their core that they are submissives. I think that they would enjoy it. I think that they would get an erection. And then who wins? Who wins? If you're fist fighting Jesse Waters and Jesse Waters get in or gets an erection, who wins? Who wins that fight? I. Jesse.

[Pumps]

Jesse.

[Jennifer]

Yeah, I think Jesse wins it.

[Pumps]

You can't give them that.

[Jennifer]

Then you're. You're being codependent with their kink. Their whole. That gets to the core issue of all their. So that's there in lies the whole problem. These guys need. Need to have their asses whooped. Just an old style. Just get their asses beat to where it humbles them. But they're all so submissive. I think they'd like it. It would be material at the wazoo for decades. You know what? You and I've talked about this.

[Pumps]

Yes. Be rewind in the dressing room every day to a big.

[Jennifer]

I wanted to beat up your ex husband and we thought he might like it too much.

[Pumps]

He would like it it and that. And that's just no fun for me. I'll tell you what he wouldn't like is if you threw that cap, his Gatorade cap all the time that he's holding. If you threw that over.

[Jennifer]

That's what we decided on. That ultimately I would just throw a drink on him. But here's the deal. Listener pumps. And I talk about all this all the time as friends do and their fantasies. We're never going to act on it. So Fox News, I don't want to physically beat somebody up. Fox News. I don't physically want to burn a flag. It's all talk. We've had an ongoing list for decades about all these letters we were going to write. To date we've written 0. 0. All right, all right. Pre order my book. I did write this book. It's called Not Today Fascist, which I would like to dedicate to all the pussies in the world. If you're a pussy and you get upset because somebody calls somebody a pussy, read this book right here. It might help you in the link. It's linked right below in the show notes. And go subscribe to our news podcast ihip News, and we will see you guys soon. Tell you what, I've had it with. Let's hear it. I've had it with that.