Goop, She Did It Again

Summary

"I've Had It" Podcast – Episode Summary

Episode Title: Goop, She Did It Again
Date: June 11, 2026
Hosts: Jennifer Welch & Angie “Pumps” Sullivan
Producer: Kylie
Notable Topics: Gwyneth Paltrow, privilege and empathy, AI, personal space, viral trends, protein obsession

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Episode Overview

In this unforgettable episode, Jennifer and Angie dive headfirst into the news cycle, dissecting the privilege and political tone-deafness of Gwyneth Paltrow following her controversial podcast comments and subsequent advertisement for luxury Israeli real estate. The hosts mix their signature humor and biting honesty with criticism of social trends, personal grievances (from "rear-entry" personal space invaders to America’s protein obsession), and listener interactions. The result is a blend of comedy, catharsis, and cultural commentary.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Personal Space Invaders (01:41–04:21)

• Angie's grievance: People who invade your personal space from behind, notably in places like the dog school or self-checkout lines.
• Jennifer's addition: Argues rear-entry invaders are the worst, especially in queues where “everyone’s worried about cutting prevention” (02:55).
• Both agree: Increased irritation with public crowds has them questioning their agoraphobic tendencies.

Memorable Quote

“A rear entry personal space invader is far more than the front.”—Jennifer Welch (02:55)

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2. AI Slop and Algorithm Brain Rot (04:21–08:43)

• Jennifer describes falling down an AI-generated rabbit hole on her social media, watching French bulldogs play tennis, then, bizarrely, obese tennis stars.
• She laments the loss of her curated, escapist algorithm, blaming AI “brain rot” and its addictive mechanisms.
• Angie relates with her own digital vice: watching ring camera compilations of people falling.

Memorable Quotes

“I cannot believe I'm watching imaginary AI slop right now... It's such brain rot.”—Jennifer Welch (05:07)
“It's such a slippery slope because when you start watching it, you think, this is so stupid. But I like it.”—Angie (07:17)

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3. Listener Reviews & Catchphrases (08:44–09:21)

• Kylie reads two 5-star reviews highlighting the show's recurring catchphrases (“the thing,” “the deal”).
• The hosts joke about healthcare premiums and riff on their own phrase fatigue.

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4. Gwyneth Paltrow, Political Privilege, and the Princess Syndrome (09:21–21:04; 28:39–40:14)

Gwyneth Paltrow’s Podcast Clip & Reaction (11:03–16:17)

• The hosts play and dissect a clip where Paltrow calls herself “centrist” and claims she “doesn’t feel anything" politically right now.
• Jen calls out Paltrow’s “princess syndrome” and privilege, noting her inability—or refusal—to empathize with marginalized groups.
• Angie admits her own past lack of empathy, rooted in an insular, evangelical upbringing, but expresses shame and personal growth.

Tone Deafness and Silence Equals Cruelty

• Jennifer: Paltrow’s comments are symptomatic of broader “white woman problem”—a refusal to speak up for marginalized people unless personally affected (16:19–20:25).
• Both see silence or “not feeling anything” from such a platform as not just tone-deaf, but cruel, especially amid current political/international crises.

Celebrity Influence, Social Responsibility, and Faux Wellness

• Discussion expands to include other celebrities (RFK Jr., Bill Maher), who misuse their platforms in the absence of humility or science-based thinking.
• Jen draws direct links from Paltrow's statements/actions to broader themes of privilege and complicity.

Paltrow’s Israeli Real Estate Ad & Double Down (28:39–40:14)

• After recording their initial discussion, the hosts return to cover Paltrow’s new role as spokesperson for luxury Israeli condos—a move seen as provocatively cruel given the ongoing Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
• Jennifer decries the “intentional cruelty” of the act and likens it to advertising luxury goods in Nazi Germany.

Memorable Quotes

“What a luxury. Lucky her. She just gets to be centrist.”—Angie (11:29)
“Tell us you’re Republican without telling us you’re Republican.”—Jennifer (11:43)
“Silence is… some of the biggest forms of bigotry.”—Jennifer (16:59)
“At least we know where she stands, right? …Gwyneth Paltrow is a fascist.”—Jennifer (35:03, paraphrased)

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5. Listener Voice Memos: Hats, Sex Droughts & Protein Pandemics (40:21–57:26)

Voice Memo: Ball Caps with Slogans (40:21–45:07)

• Caller Ben rails against “object/word hats” (e.g. “margs” for margaritas), calling it an “epidemic.”
• Jen and Angie riff on the broader trend of single-word businesses and “inspirational” quote merch, agreeing it’s all a bit cringe and insubstantial.

Voice Memo: Big Protein Rant (50:34–56:44)

• Caller Jace is over the current “protein in everything” trend, mocking gym-bro culture and branded foods.
• Jennifer commiserates—with a side-eye at her gym-obsessed husband’s creatine evangelism.
• Angie reveals she is, in fact, “a protein girl,” particularly due to her use of Ozempic.

Memorable Quotes

“Big Protein is trying to sell to you. I have absolutely had it.”—Jace (51:37)
“You’re a part of the Protein community. To be fair, you’re shopping for grams of protein!”—Jennifer (56:33)

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6. The Importance of Moral Curiosity & Diversity (38:26–40:14)

• Jennifer closes with a passionate call for moral curiosity (not just intellectual curiosity) and celebration of real diversity as antidotes to privilege, bigotry, and isolation.
• She affirms she’ll “never ever go watch a Gwyneth Paltrow movie” and draws a link between one-dimensional celebrity worlds and the desire for echo chambers.

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Notable/Memorable Moments & Quotes

• On privilege:

  “Princess syndrome, where they think the world needs to be curated exclusively for them…”—Jennifer (12:34)

• On AI:

  “It’s such brain rot, and it’s so stupid. But here’s the most embarrassing part. I kind of liked it…”—Jennifer (06:41)

• On Paltrow’s ad:

  “Waking up for a morning run can be brutal. When a stone’s throw from there, there’s a genocide going on.”—Jennifer (29:32)

• On diversity:

  “Diversity is the antidote to this big, ridiculous show Gwyneth Paltrow just partook in.”—Jennifer (39:08)

• On repeated patterns:

  “When someone shows you who they are, believe them… I have to work every day to follow those words.”—Angie (37:19)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Opening & Personal Space Invaders: 01:41–04:21
• AI Slop and Social Media Algorithms: 04:21–08:43
• Listener Reviews & Show Catchphrases: 08:44–09:21
• Gwyneth Paltrow Clip & Analysis: 11:03–21:04
• Real Estate Ad Backlash (Breaking the Fourth Wall): 28:39–40:14
• Listener Voice Memos – Ball Caps: 40:21–45:07
• Listener Voice Memos – Protein Rant: 50:34–56:44
• Moral Curiosity & Diversity: 38:26–40:14

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Episode Conclusion

Jennifer and Angie wrap up the episode with their signature candor: calling out privilege, questioning pop culture absurdities, and making it clear that, with major celebrities like Gwyneth Paltrow, “when someone shows you who they are, believe them.” The episode is a pointed, passionate fusion of comedy and real social critique—leaving listeners better equipped to see the “Princess syndrome” in their own world and reminding us that silence, especially from the privileged, is never neutral.

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For More:

• Follow "I've Had It" wherever you get podcasts
• Pre-order Jennifer’s book, Not Today, Fascist, for more on privilege, justice, and finding humor in the madness

Transcript

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[Angie]

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[Jennifer]

So are we supposed to start the podcast?

[Angie]

Ready?

[Jennifer]

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[Angie]

Okay, what I've had it with and I've had this grievance before, but it's always been from the front. But personal Space invaders from back. I it just seems like I was at the dog school and they have a half door and I was kind of had my arms on the half door and a woman came up to me and was like right behind me. Like I could feel her breath in my hair and so I thought, well, she doesn't know. So I turned around. She was not on her phone. She didn't sound startled or she didn't appear to be sorry. So I thought. So I backed up so she had to back up and then I Went up again. She came up again. It was the weirdest thing. Then I was waiting in line at self checkout, and somebody did the same thing. And I'm just like. I don't think I've ever experienced personal. Personal Space Invaders from the bank. My only.

[Jennifer]

Oh, I have a bunch.

[Angie]

Oh, you have?

[Jennifer]

I think it's more common from the back. I think a rear entry personal space invader is far more than the front. Like, you're waiting in line to get on a plane. You're waiting in line at a restaurant. You know, when you have to order at the counter. It seems like everybody's always just creeping up. Like, they don't want any daylight between you and them, because everybody's planning on all this cutting prevention. They don't want anybody cutting.

[Angie]

So think about the cutting prevention. That's great.

[Jennifer]

Yeah. And I've.

[Angie]

I've been known to kind of scoot in a little bit, but I don't want somebody to feel my breath on their hair.

[Jennifer]

Oh, no. It's horrible. It's weird. Yeah. I can't. I don't like Personal Space Invaders. I just. In general, I don't really like people. You know, I. I just. It takes a lot to be around people now. Weird thing is, like, in New York, I go outside and everybody's kind of the same. Like, nobody really wants to be around a bunch of people, but we all have to be, and we have to cooperate. But nobody's all up in anybody's business. But in general, I. I. Group activities where you're waiting in line to do things. It's kind of a forced group activity. Like, I don't want to be in the line with this person.

[Angie]

Yeah. And the more I'm out, like in a general public situation, like at a. At a Thunder game or something, the more I realize I'm better off being agoraphobic because I just. I get frustrated and mad and I just think I hate people.

[Jennifer]

Yeah. Yeah. All right. Let me tell you what I've had it with. So on the weekends, I completely unplug from the news. I have to for my serenity. And so I love to look at, like, tennis videos on Instagram and French bulldog videos. Well, I noticed on Saturday, like, these French bulldog videos started coming up. I was like, oh, my God, that dog's so cute. And then I kept going. And then the next thing I know, I'm watching French bulldogs play tennis. It's all this AI play ping pong, cooking, doing all of this. And 30 minutes probably goes by, and I'M like, I cannot believe I'm watching imaginary AI Slope right now. Like, it's. It's such brain rotten. Anybody who says, oh, social media is not addicting, I'm like, it totally is addicting, because I sat there for, like, 30 minutes and watched imaginary. Well, then it really took a darker turn. So the more you engage with this, the more it pops up, right? And I had, like, built my for you page brick by brick, where it was just. There was nothing political in it. It was everything that I wanted. Travel, tennis, clips, dogs. So once I engaged in the French Bulldog AI slop. And I ended up watching, like, a bunch of French bulldogs playing tennis. And I know that's stupid, but I really got a big kick out of it, right? So then the next morning, I get on, or maybe it was later that night, and all of a sudden my algorithm starts feeding me AI of Roger Federer and Raf and a doll that are morbidly obese. They're like 300 pounds each, and it's Roger and Rotha, and they're playing at the French Open at Roland Garros, but they're like, gigantic, and they're like. So I'm very ashamed to admit I watched AI Obese Rafa and Roger, and once I liked, and then it started feeding me fat Carlos Alcaraz and fat Yannick Sinner. And then I just continue to watch it, and now my for you page is a goddamn disaster. I hate it. I hate everything about it. So now I have nowhere to just go do mindless, because I engaged in that one, and the algorithm was really smart. Feeding meat French bull dogs plus tennis, because I like the real images of them individually so it a item and put them at Roland Garros playing. And I was like, oh, my God, look at how great. Great forehand. Way to go, RIP Watching obese professional players play. And none of it's real. And so I've had it with this AI I. I've had it. It's so. It's such brain rot, and it's so stupid. But here's the most embarrassing part. I kind of liked it, and I couldn't, and. And I enjoyed it.

[Angie]

That's the problem. It's such a slippery slope because when you start watching it, you think, this is so stupid. But I like it. And that's the bad part, because I do that with stuff too. I'm like, why am I watching this? It's so stupid. But I can't stop. I cannot stop. You know what my new thing is that I love on My for you page is the compilation of the like people falling and they like their ring camera catches it like falling off the stair. Like I will laugh. Like I have never been thought anything was so funny. It's just like even your ass drunk sometimes. I laugh that hard over these pictures of just random people falling. So what does that tell you about me? I'm just an.

[Jennifer]

I like to watch people fall. It's hilarious. I like it. This is even more. This is even darker when it's little kids because they trip up and then they're like. And it's just like a demonic reaction to it. Like it was a grand conspiracy when actually they're just clutzes and they tripped over themselves. And I. That even gets me anymore. And I think how diabolical am high that I can watch little kids trip, fall and then have stage five meltdowns. And I think it's hilarious. Or when they have like those big balls. Yeah. Somebody rolls the ball just like plows.

[Angie]

I like it. I do. I watched like 10 million this weekend.

[Jennifer]

I love it. Okay, welcome to I've had it. I'm Jennifer.

[Angie]

I'm Angie.

[Jennifer]

All right, Kylie, what's going on with the reviews out there?

[Kylie]

I've got two five star reviews. This one is where exactly is the thing. And Reggie.

[Angie]

Right.

[Kylie]

Love the show. And never have I ever heard so many. Here's the things in my life. So I'm wondering where exactly is the thing and how many things are there?

[Jennifer]

We don't know. As soon as you find out, let us know.

[Angie]

Yeah, tell us what's another thing we say all the time, Kylie? Everybody says the deal. The deal. You know the deal.

[Jennifer]

All right, what's the next one?

[Kylie]

This one's five stars titled thank you Casserole. Kate says this is my weekly therapy. Do you accept United?

[Jennifer]

No, we don't. Access denied. Insurance denied. We're raising your premium. Yeah. Welcome to America. Welcome to Healthcare in America. All right, I have some news stories. So Gwyneth Paltrow over this past weekend was on a podcast with, I think somebody who has something to do with Palantir. Like he was a owner or on the board or something, some AI guy. And I just want to set this up. Gwyneth Paltrow is a Nepo baby. And I don't have an issue with Nepo babies. People cannot choose where they're born and who their parents are. I. I take issue with, with Nepo babies that don't have enough introspection to get out of their world, to understand their privilege because we're all. You know, you have time to do that. You have time to seek out what the lifestyles in life are of other people that are not you. And because of this Nepo baby situation or Dad's a director, mom is an actor. She was able to probably shortcut and have access to a lot of auditions. And she's a very talented actress. And I think she's very pretty. I'm just going to say that. Yeah. And then she starts goop, and she has a pussy candle and whatnot. Now, here's my thing on that. Like, if you can sell a pissy candle and make millions of dollars, swing for the fences. I mean, that sounds like a racket. That was brilliant. I can't believe anybody buys it. But I'm not gonna knock all that. If you're into all this wellness, whatever. What I don't like is when people see what's happening in the United States of America right now, and they say, like this. Play the clip.

[Gwyneth Paltrow (clip)]

So with my own husband, who's the best person ever in the world, he's so progressive. Like, he has such a sweetheart, and he wants to, like, make sure everybody's looked after. I'm pretty centrist, and my husband thinks I'm a Republican, which I'm not a Republican. I mean, I don't feel anything right now, to be totally honest with you. I feel like I'm a completely an independent.

[Jennifer]

What a luxury.

[Angie]

Yeah. Lucky her. She just gets to be centrist. And I mean, if you're being accused of being Republican, those are fighting words, actually, in this day and age. Don't you think?

[Jennifer]

Yes.

[Angie]

Okay.

[Jennifer]

That to me is like, tell us you're Republican without tell us telling us you're a Republican. Yeah.

[Angie]

And she has so many women customers. And I think. I mean, I've bought a dildo from Gwyneth Paltrow before. From goo. I mean, from goo. Not Gwyneth. I didn't, like, have her use dildo or. What do you call it? Vibrator. But I think about women in Oklahoma, that their doctors are being prosecuted if they give them any type of reproductive care or advice. And women having to go out of state and women dying. I think you really wouldn't be offended that somebody called you a Republican. You wouldn't take a line in the sand there when you have a company that I would assume. Now, I don't know, I haven't seen her demographic, but I would assume it's predominantly women.

[Jennifer]

Yeah. So my thing is where she says she doesn't feel Anything.

[Angie]

Yeah.

[Jennifer]

And this is the fundamental problem with a lot of white women. They live a very insulated life, and a lot of them suffer from Princess syndrome, where they think the world needs to be curated exclusively for them and don't have empathy and have a lot of privilege. Their parents, you know, helped them in Gwyneth Paltrow's case. And I'm not going to take away credit where credit is due. I think she's a good actress. I think she's really good at it. And she built this brand, Goop. Apparently, Goop is having financial problems. I don't know if that's true or not. That's just something I read. So she's sucking up to these AI people. My fundamental problem with this type of narrative is it's a lot more common than just Gwyneth Paltrow. Yeah. There are droves of women that do not give a. And never speak up for the marginalized, ever, until it benefits them or until it impacts them. And to think about all of the gay people that have probably dressed her, done her makeup, done her hair, and then to think about all of the anti LGBTQ+ legislation at a record tick that is going. That she could sit there and say, I don't feel anything, and that she doesn't feel embarrassment at a bare minimum is mindboggling to me. But I know, I mean, from living in Oklahoma, there are so many women that have this Princess syndrome and do not give a about other human beings. And I've seen it so many times, which is why I've always hung out with gay men and not a lot of women in Oklahoma, because there's just. I always just. There was a depth level that I couldn't penetrate with them about world events, about human rights, about social justice. They were completely out to lunch. Just didn't bother them at all. Didn't affect them in the least bit. And that's just not who I am. It's. I've never been that person. I've always been acutely aware that the march for all of these things is on all of us, that we all share the burden for this.

[Angie]

No, I completely agree. And I can say, honestly, I was one of these people. If it didn't affect me, I didn't give a shit. I didn't vote. I didn't vote. I didn't look to vote for it. I. It just never hit my brain unless it affected me personally. And that is something that I have to deal with shame over because it's like, I grew up white community White, you know, very little experience with other cultures than homogenous, white, evangelical Christian. And that taught me it's all about me. I get to make all the decisions based on what's good for me. And I don't have to have empathy for other people. So the lack of empathy that I showed going into, you know, adulting, even after having kids is something that shames me. And I feel horrible about it. But in my case, not that I'm blaming, because I myself am to blame. I'm an adult, and I was an adult when this happened. I mean, I could blame it on my childhood. Yeah. But for me, it was this evangelical thing that it's all about me. I'm special, I get to be special. And every I'm favored kind of thing.

[Jennifer]

Yeah. And in the case of Gwyneth Paltrow, this is a woman who was born in New York and raised in la.

[Angie]

That's what I.

[Jennifer]

So I think when we take it outside of the lens of Bible Belt, of course, I think this is more ubiquitous in the Bible Belt, but this white lady experience, when you really dive into, like, social justice circles or LGBTQ plus movement or the pro Palestine movement, or just trying to get Kamala Harris elected, something really simple like that, the white woman problem is beyond regional, it's beyond religion. And it's a very interesting component that we need to reconcile. And so that's why I thought this clip about Gwyneth Paltrow was just so tone deaf, insensitive. And sometimes I think silence is, you know, some of the biggest forms of bigotry, people that don't speak out. And she has immense privilege and an immense, I think she says, like 9 million followers on Instagram. And what a way. Like in this time period where we see American citizens getting shot, where we see immigrant population has paperwork issues getting sent to concentration camps, and now they're saying they're not going to release the names of the administration just had an announcement. Not going to release the names of people that die in custody. They're completely erasing people's humanity. And I don't know if her algorithm is similar to what I was explaining mine was earlier or if it's just pussy candles and, you know, Maha shit. But I think the lesson here is that radicalization, regardless of your upbringing, is fairly easy. Now online, it. It's fairly easy. I don't know. I know that she campaigned with or and endorsed Obama back in the day, but to not have an opinion about what's going on right now and not feeling anything and saying that out loud is a level of sociopathy that I don't think just exists with her.

[Angie]

Yeah, no, you're right, because it's not always religion, because I wouldn't think that she was raised evangelical. So it's. I think you're a hundred, hundred percent right. It's a huge problem. Look at the voting block. When white women, our age group, voted for Trump overwhelmingly.

[Jennifer]

White women in particular don't have any issue like Gwyneth Paltrow. Like I said, the stylist, the fashion designers, the hairstylists, probably the creative directors, set directors, other actors are black and brown skinned, maybe came from, you know, not places of privilege that she did. Members of the LGBTQ community and throughout her career. And then to be so tone deaf stuff. And actually I felt like it was really cruel. I felt like it was really mean spirited, what she said there. I feel nothing. I just thought, my God, for all the people that are having sleepless nights, for all the children whose parents are hiding them so ICE won't come take them, for all of the parents that are hiding, these aren't criminals. These people have paperwork issues. To get on camera and say you feel nothing when there's so much suffering. To get on camera and say you feel nothing when we know that Elon Musk canceled aid to the poorest people in the world and we're probably going to have, you know, a lot more diseases, aids, emergence of AIDS and all sorts of things happening because of this and that. You feel nothing. I, I felt like not only was it tone deaf, I felt like it was cruel. Felt like it was really mean.

[Angie]

Well, especially when she prefaces it by my husband. Talks about, like, it's not like she can't say, I didn't know. I was so busy working. I just had no idea what's going on in the political space. I had no idea what this administration's doing. She has to know. She just told us her husband keeps her abreast of all that. It's kind of, you know, I didn't think about it as cruel, but you're kind of right. I mean, yeah, it's such a slap in the face.

[Jennifer]

I just, I think sometimes when somebody says something that overt and that, you know, intentionally tone deaf, it's intentional. That there's a cruelty to that, that there is a. It just reminds me of so many white women that I've known that have this princess syndrome and they just. Until it benefits them, then they care. That's when they care. When it affects them or benefits them. There's not an inherent goodness to care about other people more than themselves. And it's, it's something that is symptomatic of our culture and the way we always promote individualism above and beyond everything else. And Twitter, of course, is responding. Let's pop this up. She's even got the classic conservative trait of not having the self awareness to realize how bad that sounds. And then I want to note that her net worth is estimated at over $200 million. And then Megan McCain responds and she says, she has always given me Maha mom vibes. Come on in, the water's fine. Gwyneth, when you talk about Maha, you're talking about the dismantling of science. And Gwyneth Paltrow, should her children, Moses or Apple or her husband need care, cancer, aggressive cancer treatment, she can hop on a pj, head to Europe and get away from here. Because they are dismantling all cancer research in this country. They're dismantling expertise. And the whole Maha movement is based on this guy, RFK Jr. Who castrates raccoons to study the penises later. I mean, that's just kind of where we are with all this. And I've always thought this like R.F. kennedy Jr. Gwyneth Paltrow, Bill Maher, to an extent. A lot of these people have a lot of money. They don't have to worry about the basic material things that we all have to worry about. And they are curious about life. So they read a lot and they get bored. And then they start thinking in a hubris style. I know better than all of this. Decades long peer reviewed research. 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That's had it to 64,000. Message and data rates may apply. See terms for details. All right, listener, everything you just heard we filmed two days ago. And I'm going to break the fourth wall a little bit here. What we do is we film these. I've had it podcast a couple of days in advance and we never in a million years thought that Gwyneth Paltrow would out crazy herself. We thought it was very evergreen content. And I'll be damned if then she doesn't trot out as the paid luxury spokesperson for real estate campaign in Israel. Pop up the headline, Gwyneth Paltrow sparks backlash with her campaign for luxury Israeli housing. And then here is the ad in question that came out after we filmed everything that you all just heard. So we're jumping in in real time because we did not think that she would be guiding the news cycle. Play the clip. Ah, not again.

[Gwyneth Paltrow (clip)]

Who decided morning should be so early? Even my coffee needs a coffee. Waking up for a morning run can be brutal, but it's a price I'm willing to pay. Because once I hit the park, pure energy takes over. It's hard to explain. There's a reason the world's most iconic

[Jennifer]

buildings are by a park. 51 Park, New York. 51 Park.

[Angie]

Wow. Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow.

[Jennifer]

Waking up for a morning run can be brutal. When a stone's throw from there, there's a genocide going on.

[Angie]

Right? They're shooting kids. Here's the deal. I honestly what I expected the follow up from Gwyneth because I am so naive. I expected the follow up to be her getting on a microphone and saying, I listened to myself and I'm not happy with the way that came off and it sounded insensitive, blah, blah, blah. I expected some kind of course correction. I did not expect a full blown double down.

[Jennifer]

Yeah, I, I thought it was intentional when she sat down with the AI guy that that company is funding a lot of Israel stuff. And when you get to be a, a celebrity of Gwyneth Paltrow's stature, there aren't accidents that happen where she wondered on some podcast and she didn't have a team of people that vetted it. I realized now that was the appetizer she was running Interference to prep her audience that she was going to be the spokesperson for these 10 million dollar apartments. Critics noted that Herzelia seafront was the site of the Palestinian village Al Haram, and it was emptied in 1948. And, you know, this is a moment where you, you really see if people have conviction or not. And there's a through line that I see with people that are uncritically thinking Israel supporters, that are supporters of unregulated capitalism, that are supporters of Elon Musk, that are supporters of maga. The through line in all of that is once you agree that it's okay to exploit a certain group of people, no matter what that group is black people, gay people, Palestinians, what have you. Once you make that bargain in your moral compass, the breakage from there is just off a cliff. And you see that here with Gwyneth Paltrow. This is a woman who,

[Angie]

you know,

[Jennifer]

she's had a very successful career in the United States. She doesn't need the money from being the spokesperson on this. This is a political statement. There's a cruelty to this. And she said on the, the podcast, we just listened to that. You know, her husband thinks she's a Republican, but she's not a Republican. This is just. So when the world is watching this genocide take place and these kids getting shot and millions of Lebanese people being displaced, this isn't about anti Semitism or Jewish people. It's about, we have to criticize far right fascist governments. They must be criticized. And right now, the United States is worthy of all of the criticism in the world. And if there were some famous French actress and she was offered by some American company to do something on a site where a village used to live, and she said, no, I would understand why. I mean, this is, this is beyond. There's an intentional cruelty to this. There's an intentional. In your face.

[Angie]

Yeah.

[Jennifer]

About this stuff that I don't like. About this stuff, I, I don't like that people with platforms like Gwyneth Paltrow could really make a difference for LGBTQ community, which is under attack. The dismantling of the Voting Rights act here, I mean, the rise in anti black racism is off the chart in this country. It is incredible. And that so many of these actors do not use their platform to stand up for now, there are those that do. And she's aware of this. She's aware of the Harvey, Javier Bardem. She's aware of the Mark Ruffalo's. She's aware that a lot of people in Hollywood want to boycott films that were shot in Israel because they're committing so many war crimes. So this isn't accidental. This is intentional. There's an intentional cruelty to Gwyneth Paltrow's choice of the way she wants to earn money right now.

[Angie]

You know, I. You have always. And I think the listener knows this, but I'll state it clearly. Your mind has much more clarity and clicks faster than mine. It always has. And once I think about it. So when you said the cruelty day before yesterday, I really process that. And I was like, you're right, and it is intentional. And I go back to, well, maybe she made this ad before, you know, October 7th and before the genocide. But then the reality is this has all been done recently. It is a political statement. There are no oopsies in her level of elite 1%. I wouldn't think she is surrounded by people that are protecting her image at all times. So having processed it, I. I have to say, I. I've enjoyed her movies, but I will never go see another Gwyneth Paltrow movie. Like, I'm out. It's just too sad.

[Jennifer]

I think there's just this intentional cruelty to. To her now. I. I just think when you have a microphone, what she does, and you have autonomy over which ads you can be in, which she does. And this is what you're choosing in light of a woman who has catapulted to her success with. On the backs of a lot of really creative, marginalized people that, despite the Gwyneth Paltrows of the world, were able to be the makeup artist, we're able to be the fashion designer, we're able to be the, you know, sound guy on set. And she's been able to work in a diverse work environment, but obviously, when it comes to her private time, it's cracker city. And it is white supremacist. Because this is. It's just so. It's so disappointing that, like. And then here's the thing, too. Like, I guess I have to say this. At least we know where she stands, right? You know, like a MAGA person that has the MAGA flag and all the. At least we know, okay, Gwyneth Paltrow is a fascist. Gwyneth Paltrow supports fascism. Gwyneth Paltrow is not at all bothered remotely by the war crimes being committed by Israel in the United States of America. You know, this is presumably after the start of the Iran war, you know, Right. This is crazy. And if it wasn't after, she has enough money, enough lawyers enough to say we need to rescind her participation in this condominium project thing.

[Angie]

Yeah, so that's right.

[Jennifer]

Yeah. It's just. It's. Thank God. I mean, Chris Martin is probably like, I'm so glad we consciously uncoupled, you know, he's like, you're goddamn right it was conscious. It was consciously uncom. Uncoupling. She is a piece of work. Yeah. And I always liked her. I always liked all of her movies and stuff. But God, I mean, when somebody shows you who. Who they are, believe them, right?

[Angie]

That is. Those are the truest words. And I have failed throughout my life to follow those words. And I have to work every day to follow those words because I'm always thinking, well, that's. That can be what somebody meant.

[Jennifer]

You know what I mean?

[Angie]

And so when someone shows you who they are, believe them is something that I have to consciously be aware of all the time. Because giving people the benefit of the doubt and trying to rationalize this kind of behavior, it. It's not possible. And it's a fool's errand.

[Jennifer]

Totally. Okay, let's listen to a couple of voice memos since we're kind of doing this split show. Here's Kylie. We're all in different outfits. It's a different day. But my God, who knew that Gwyneth Paltrow would be driving the news cycle? Kylie, what did you make of all that?

[Kylie]

It's super disappointing. I always liked Gwyneth.

[Jennifer]

I do, too.

[Kylie]

But your point in just working in the industry? We do. Her own team put out that clip. They clipped it and they put it out themselves. So one. Yeah, it was on purpose. It was completely planned. And I think it was ahead of this ad just to kind of set the soil. And a lot of people on Twitter are saying this is like advertising luxury apartments in Nazi Germany. It's exactly the heat of the Holocaust. So, yeah, I don't think there's any room for excuses for her.

[Jennifer]

And it's so lazy. Yeah. To me, it's so morally lazy to support the world that has enabled her to be where she is right now. It's the laziest thing on the planet. If I wanted to be morally lazy, I could hang out with all white people. Not read beyond anything that benefits me, not vote beyond anything that personally benefits me. I could go vote my pocketbook. I could only be interested in white upper class people. I could do that. That's what Gwyneth Paltrow does. But it's so morally lazy to do it. What I'm interested in having in my life are the people who are morally curious, not just intellectually curious, but morally curious. How do I become a better person? For a lot of people, they try to find that answer in religion. And if you actually genuinely do become a better person through religion, good on you. I'm not a big religious person, but for me, I found that answer to be diversity. Diversity not only in skin color, not only in country of origin, but diversity and income hanging around with people that are different from you. And that's why these people are so terrified of the New York cities of the world. That's why Fox News is so triggered by blue cities, because diversity is the antidote to this big, ridiculous show that we just saw Gwyneth Paltrow partake in. She's morally lazy, intellectually lazy. And I mean, you know, for me, I mean, it's just like, it's over. I will never, ever go watch a Gwyneth Paltrow movie that she consciously did this, just like when Chris Martin consciously uncoupled from her, which now I completely understand.

[Angie]

Yeah, now makes so much more sense.

[Jennifer]

Okay, voice memo.

[Kylie]

Okay, up first, we've got Ben.

[Ben]

Okay, I've recorded this, like, four times to get it right, but. Hello. Patriots. Patriots, Patriots. I've had it. I love you guys. Jen and Pumps, I remember you from Bravo years ago. So I have been with you since day one. Happy Pride month to Kylie with the best blonde hair. I hear that. Compliments. Get these through. And hello to the new gaytriot on the podcast whose name I'm forgetting right now. So I suck. And Seth. Anyways, what I've had it with that, I just realized is walking down the street is ball caps. And specifically the ones that have, like, an object or a phrase on them. You know, like one that just says margs. Like, the girl I just saw walking like. We get it, Stacy. You're a terrible drunk. You get wasted, snookered off of two margaritas, and fall off the barstool. No one wants to drink with you. Like, why do we need all these ball caps that just say words on them of objects you identify with? Like truck?

[Angie]

I don't know.

[Ben]

It just. Is anybody else seeing an upswing of the hat epidemic? We must stop this. It's a pandemic. And then the other thing I'm. I've had it with. His pump's not getting laid. I think about it often. We need to get her some penis. Or Venus, if you know what I mean. So come on. It's pride. You need some dick or some. Whatever. Okay. Love you guys. Bye.

[Angie]

You know what the best part about that is? He brought out a truth that you and I haven't browbeat Kylie about. If you compliment Kylie, you're more likely to get your voice memo through. I thought that was a real.

[Jennifer]

Oh, you know what? This is just. This isn't going to unleash the most sycophantic voice memo on the planet. And I'm in New York. I have to work with her every day. Pumps, you get to log in briefly, and then you're out. You're away. I'm in this all day, every day, eight hours a day with her.

[Angie]

So she's peacocking around saying how popular and great she is. All the compliments.

[Jennifer]

Angie, what do you have to say about getting.

[Angie]

I'm ready if I'm ready to like sex. Huh?

[Jennifer]

Are you going. Do you think you're going to like sex again? Taking way too long to answer.

[Angie]

Well, I'm just saying it's been.

[Jennifer]

Already answered it. You already answered it. Let's move on to that.

[Angie]

Like it.

[Jennifer]

Let's move on to the hat. Would like it, you think? Let's move on to the hat thing. And it's the one word Marg. And I love that he called her Stacy. It's not only just with hats that are doing these names. It's also, like restaurants and bars and businesses. Like, I got an idea. We'll open up a bar and everything will be a liquid, right? And so we're going to name the bar Liquid. That's it. And then let's do Liquid, period. That's it. And everybody's like, definitely. Let's workshop that even a little bit more. And they come back, okay, what we thought is all lowercase liquid, period. And there's just this whole movement, and it's like, it's really not. You really didn't accomplish that much with the whole thing. Great, simple name. But it's. It started. It's. It's going everywhere.

[Angie]

See, I'm still in the Bible belt, so I still see shirts with, like, phrases. Like, we have to have full phrases on our shirts instead of just a word. So it's everywhere, huh? Because it'll eventually trickle down here, though.

[Jennifer]

The phrases in Oklahoma are the worst.

[Angie]

Live, laugh, love, shut the up.

[Jennifer]

Here's the thing we've talked about. We've spoken about this. For inspirational quotes, shirts with words, wall art, Bible verses in social media profiles are all red flags. All red flags. There has never been a quote that actually inspired me it might have in that moment, it might have inspired my thought briefly. But then I just returned to being the horrible, selfish person that we all are. You know, we're all in our own heads all the time. And it's great to visit quotes of great people that have done great things, but it's only momentarily changes my brain in that moment. I don't know if I've been like, God, I read this quote and I just from. And I just. I'm a different person since I read it. It inspired me so much. I've changed my entire life.

[Angie]

No, I don't think I've seen that either.

[Jennifer]

Do you all know of anybody who's read an inspirational quote, been so inspired they changed their entire life?

[Angie]

No.

[Kylie]

Maybe for like an hour.

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[Jennifer]

Okay, let's do another voice memo.

[Kylie]

I also just want to shout out buy our ball caps in our store that say I've had it. Those are for sale.

[Jennifer]

Yeah, I've had it. That's three words. Oh Kylie, I think we can do an update all lowercase. I've had it, period.

[Kylie]

I've had it, period.

[Jennifer]

Yeah, I like that. I've had it, period. A jazz hand. What about if we did hands? I've had it. And it was. And I've had it is between the jazz hands.

[Angie]

What about the back hat?

[Jennifer]

In the back is jazz hands.

[Kylie]

I like it.

[Jennifer]

That's good, right? Well, let's workshop it. Yeah, we'll sort it in the parking lot and scramble the jets later on that.

[Kylie]

Okay, the next voice memo I've got is from Jace.

[Jace]

Okay, so I'm gonna tell you guys my favorite lesbians a long time had it of mine that has recently gone crazy because it's now a trend. I have had it with protein. I've had it with gym bro saying, I need to get my protein. Oh, what's your protein intake? Shut the up second. I've had it with every single goddamn thing that is being sold at a supermarket having protein in it. We're talking protein water, protein, waffles, protein pop tarts, protein milk, protein this, protein that. Shut the up. Eat your normal goddamn popcorn, not Khloe Kardashian's stupid ass protein popcorn. That doesn't even sound good. Make the regular popcorn, drizzle some butter on it. And while you're eating that delicious popcorn, shove a protein shake straight up your ass. It's gonna be better than this protein water and all this other that big protein is trying to sell to you. I have absolutely had it.

[Jennifer]

I love it. Big protein. That's a really good point. So let me tell you what's happening to me. So Josh, of course, like twist his rubber arm and he's on for any racket, any. He falls prey to every needless, ridiculous, exploitative form of capitalism imaginable. So, you know, Josh is big gym bro now and he works out all the time and he's into his body fat. We've. I've gone on and on about that, but he's also into all these supplement stuff. So always ordering food with Josh has been a nightmare. Like, I've gone to a text mech rush, Tex Mex restaurant with him before and we've sat down and he's like, yeah, we'll have chips and salsa, no onions in the salsa. And I'm like, that's pre made. Like, you cannot do that. You have to pick out your own onions. Which is like that, like real, like a divorceable orders with this man. I have. I have sat through divorceable orders that even a judge would go, I don't blame you divorce his ass, right?

[Angie]

Yeah.

[Jennifer]

So now we've moved on to the, the protein stuff.

[Angie]

Oh.

[Jennifer]

And he's very into these protein shakes. And when he comes to New York, we like to work out together. And we work out very well together. Like, I like to work out, he likes to work out. We go work out together. It's annoying. Or the gym couple gagged. I've had it. But I am that also. Hypocrite, Right? So at the gym, we work out. There's a protein shake bar, concession stand, whatever. And he is very into ordering me these post workout smoothies. And here's the thing, right after I work out, I'm not super hungry, like, and he wants it the second after. So he orders me these protein shakes. And I'm standing there and he's like, and for her, she'll have the, you know, go get her protein shake. And with extra protein and creatine. He wants me to be on all this creatine. And then he's ordered me these creatine on the go packages and he wants me to, like, take creatine. I'm like, I'm not gonna take creatine. I'm not gonna take protein. None of this stuff existed until very recently, or it did, but hadn't been marketed. And I'm not falling for it. I'm not falling for any of it. And so when he and I have to do it, it's easier for me just to drink the protein creat that, have a belabored conversation with him about not drinking it. Because I submit, I submit to my husband on the. I submit on the creatine protein shakes.

[Angie]

I don't know when creatine became a thing, but it's been a thing for a minute because I had never heard of it before in my life and I can't get away from it. But here's what I. I completely agree, completely agree with the color. But here's another little protein issue I have have is when they're like, like, if I can't eat and I'm in an airport and I'm like, okay, I'm just gonna grab a protein bar. I don't want a protein bar that has three grams of protein. That's not a protein bar. I can get a string cheese for that. So I get tired of looking at all these marketed protein bars with like 7 grams of protein when there's like a real protein bar that I've bought before.

[Jennifer]

So you're in on this. You have a grievance from within the Community.

[Angie]

A meal I don't want.

[Jennifer]

It sounds to me like you're in the community and you have a grievance from within the community. Because I'm so outside of the protein creatine community. I couldn't even begin to tell you how much protein was in a protein bar. Much less that some. I wouldn't know if 3, 7 or 500 grams.

[Angie]

Yeah, I do.

[Jennifer]

Kylie, what does this sound like to you?

[Kylie]

She's a protein girl.

[Angie]

Okay, I'm approaching girl. I mean, I, I try to eat a certain amount.

[Jennifer]

Are you secretly taking creatine pumps? No, I did not. Have you taken creatine?

[Angie]

No, not one of my sons has put it in my water and I don't know.

[Jennifer]

But no, don't go to the gym with Josh Welch to the protein bar afterwards. You'll be on creatine.

[Angie]

I don't. I thought it just made you pee all the time. I. I'm just unfamiliar with the benefits.

[Jennifer]

Well, my. One of my girl that I work out with at the gym, she's this Russian trainer. I love working out. She goes these really hard workouts and, and I was like, yeah, Josh wants me to get on creatine. She's like, I take creatine and she's actually really beautiful. So the voice makes her sounds like she's not pretty. So I want to go, actually, this woman is incredibly striking and beautiful. And I was like, I just don't want to take it. Like, I've never taken supplements my whole life. And she told me that she had gained 13 pounds since being on creatine. So that was an immediate no for me. Of course, hers is all muscle, but I'm. I don't want to gain 13 pounds. I don't care if it's fat. I don't care if it's muscle. I don't care if it's IQ points. I'm not interested in gaining anything right now. I mean, I'm interested in reducing things in my life, not gaining.

[Angie]

So that's crazy. Yeah. So I guess I'm in the protein problem.

[Jennifer]

You're. You're a part of the protein community. Well, to be fair, you're shopping for grams of protein.

[Angie]

Well, because when you're on ozempic or whatever, you have to make sure you get enough protein so you don't lose as much muscle mass.

[Jennifer]

This is so classic of America. Yeah. So during the, during the opioid epidemic, there were all of these commercials. This is for opiate induced constipation.

[Angie]

Remember those?

[Jennifer]

For the drug oic and now there's a drug for the drug for the drug. It's like we are all so, like, consumed. Have you seen those, those pharmaceutical commercials where it's like, do you take such and such and suffer one of the side effects and then it's a drug to prevent the side effect, then has a whole bunch of other side effects?

[Angie]

Yeah, I have seen those. I can't remember the product, but I have seen them. That's like, why are we advertising America?

[Jennifer]

Yeah. Yeah. Because. Yeah. All right. Does anybody have anything to add to this very disjointed episode? But hey, listener, we do follow the news cycle and we weren't going to not cover Gwyneth Paltrow's I'm back. Period, all lowercase dot com. That's crazy. It's crazy. And Trump's America to do that.

[Angie]

Yeah. Divorced from reality.

[Jennifer]

All right. Make sure you subscribe to our podcast. Pre order my book. It's called Not Today Fascist and I have a dedication.

[Angie]

Wonder who this is going to be.

[Jennifer]

Oh, Gwenny. Gwyneth Paltrow, Not Today Fascist. You are one of the fascists here. I think your husband's right when he calls you a Republican. And maybe he needs to take a little bit further and call you a fascist. Maybe think outside of what it's like to be Gwyneth Paltrow. And while you're at it, you might pre order my book Gwyneth. You might learn some things. The link is right below in the show notes. We'll be back later. I'll tell you what I've had it with. Let's hear it. I've had it with that.