Grannies Gone Wild

Summary

Podcast Summary: I’ve Had It

Episode: Grannies Gone Wild

Original Air Date: July 2, 2026
Hosts: Angie "Pumps" Sullivan (with Kylie and Ryan filling in for Jennifer Welch)
Special Guests: None

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Overview

In this episode of "I've Had It," Angie "Pumps" Sullivan is joined by Kylie and Ryan, with Jennifer Welch notably absent due to illness (spread, humorously, by Kylie). The group dives into hilarious, brutally honest conversations about what they've "had it" with, including overactive listeners, aging mishaps, cruise scams, wild retirees, and quirky etiquette around digital communications. The theme—provoked by viral retirement home influencer "Grandma Droniac"—is built around aging, freedom, and the hilarious, underestimated chaos of “grannies gone wild.” As always, vivid personal anecdotes and quick-witted banter rule the day.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Curse of Overactive Listeners

[02:13–04:14]

• Kylie confesses irritation with "overactive listeners," defined as people who audibly affirm everything during a story, creating distractions:
  • "I do not need that active of a listener. It's distracting to me." —Kylie [03:18]
• Pumps reflects: despite outward engagement, she often mentally checks out, sharing she failed to notice her car had a sunroof for two years.
  • "I have such a great ability to ignore everything that's going on around me..." —Pumps [04:22]

2. Signs of Aging: Senior Discounts & Cruise Call Scams

[05:41–09:45]

• IHOP Innocence Lost: Pumps recounts the mortifying moment she was given an unrequested "senior discount":
  • "As much Botox as I have, I was halfway pissed off... this woman just automatically gave me the senior discount at ihop..." —Pumps [06:08]
• Cruise Call Bullying: Pumps details being aggressively solicited by cruise companies.
  • "I have gotten three, count them, three, phone calls from a cruise line. And they get hostile..." —Pumps [08:20]
• The group jokes about ending up on “AARP” call lists, and the horror of elderly people bullied into cruise vacations.

3. The Realities of Moving & Unpacking

[10:32–16:41]

• Ryan rants about the torture of moving, especially with an unprepared boyfriend:
  • "I truly would not wish it on my worst enemy. Maybe maga, but that's literally it." —Ryan [11:37]
• Unpacking Ethics: The group confesses to varying degrees of procrastination in unpacking after trips or moves, widely differing from Pumps’ "control issue city" behaviors:
  • "Everything when I get back will be in the laundry... before I go to bed." —Pumps [16:13]

4. News Segment: Grannies Gone Wild — Grandma Droniac

[17:09–25:10]

• Kylie introduces the viral story of “Grandma Droniac,” the 96-year-old who’s become a TikTok influencer and who throws raucous parties in her retirement home, to the ire of management.
  • "I pay $12,000 a month to live here. I could party if I wanted... You can't stop me." —Grandma Droniac (video clip) [23:22]
• Observations on the wildness of retirement communities, prevalence of STDs ("more than a college campus!" [20:01]), and questions about restrictions on alcohol, parties, and, as Pumps jokes, "sexcapades."
• The hosts celebrate Droniac's rebellious, joyful late-life energy and question the suffocating rules imposed on paying elders.
  • "She has more game at 96 than I have at 56." —Pumps [24:54]

5. Technology & Grief: AI Chatbots for the Dead

[31:42–39:50]

• Kylie presents a Rolling Stone story on AI chatbots that simulate dead loved ones, sparking mixed feelings:
  • "My biggest concern... if you continue to maintain a relationship with that loved one after they die, that precludes you from making relationships outside of the AI." —Pumps [33:05]
• The group references Black Mirror and debates the ethics, utility, and creepiness of “living” with digital avatars of the dead.
• Concerns are raised about data privacy, emotional reliance, and the risk of AI technology impinging on real-life growth and relationships.

6. Listener Voice Memos & Social Etiquette

[39:50–54:34]

• Jake requests a "gay exception" to the rule against cutting in boarding lines, which the crew humorously grants:
  • "This podcast is always going to give an exception for a gay man." —Pumps [41:15]
• Lively debate about airport etiquette, boarding procedures, and the logic of plane seating.
• Listener Sarah laments friends who send memes, texts, and DMs across ALL platforms:
  • "Pick a channel, please. I do not want to open multiple apps and see messages from you." —Sarah [45:25]
• The crew shares their digital communication pet peeves––unread messages, group chat anxiety, and the tyranny of voice memos.
  • "I have a standing rule. I will not respond to a voice memo." —Pumps [50:28]

7. Accidental Sexting & Workplace Mishaps

[51:01–52:44]

• Pumps relays a mortifying incident where she accidentally texted "sex" to Kylie at work because of a podcast mixup.
  • "If I'm sexting someone, it is by mistake." —Pumps [52:44]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Being (Mis)Characterized:
  • "I just want everybody to know I don't get it at the movie unless I ask for it, which I do not ask because I would rather pay the two extra dollars." —Pumps [07:03]
• On Procrastination:
  • "If I open the suitcase, I have to admit that I then have to, like, put everything away. And if I keep it closed, then it's almost as if it never happened." —Ryan [15:22]
• On Old People as Party Animals:
  • "There are more STDs in a nursing home than in a college campus." —Pumps [20:01]
• On Unread Texts:
  • "Like, one out of ten texts worth me reading." —Kylie [47:26]
• On Airplane Etiquette:
  • "Why would you start in the beginning? Start at the back." —Pumps [43:31]

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Highlighted Timestamps

• Overactive listeners and mental absence: [02:13–04:32]
• Senior discount at IHOP: [06:07–07:15]
• Cruise scam calls and AARP jokes: [08:13–09:45]
• Moving in with a boyfriend / unpacking debate: [10:32–16:41]
• “Grandma Droniac”: Grannies partying and viral fame: [17:09–25:10]
• AI chatbots for deceased loved ones: [31:42–39:50]
• Voice memos, unread texts, and multitasking etiquette: [45:25–50:28]
• Sexting mishap at work: [51:01–52:44]

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Tone & Style

• Humorous, sarcastic, self-deprecating
• Candid storytelling, often with raunchy or taboo confessions
• Supportively irreverent about aging and social norms
• Intensely relatable reflections on daily frustrations, managing relationships, and digital overload

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Final Thoughts

The episode is a feel-good, laughter-packed survey of modern aging, communication, and social expectations, championed by women (and supporting cast) who refuse to take themselves, or society’s rules, too seriously. Whether navigating IHOP breakfasts, nursing home parties, or the ethics of AI-for-grief, the tone is always: honest, a little wild, and—like Grandma Droniac herself—unapologetically alive.

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Transcript

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[Kylie]

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[Podcast Host/Moderator]

So we supposed to start the podcast?

[Kylie]

Ready?

[Pumps]

1, 2, 3.

[Kylie]

Patriots, gay traits. They trots. Black Trio, Brown Trio, and everyone else can.

[Pumps]

Okay, welcome to America's top DEI podcast. Kylie is sitting in Jennifer's seat because Kylie is patient zero. Kylie was out sick last week and now she has spread her typhoid sickness to Jennifer and to Ryan. So thank you, Kylie, that I'm in Oklahoma City and not with you. So, Kylie, what have you had it with?

[Kylie]

Okay, what I've had it with is overactive listeners. This is something that's been happening to me. Okay, so can we role play? Yeah. Okay, so tell me a story.

[Pumps]

Okay, so I was walking my dog and, yes, took a giant dump, right? So I picked that dump up until he took a giant dump.

[Kylie]

Yeah.

[Pumps]

So then I had only one bag, right? So I had to go and go back and get a new one and keep doing. So you're talking like the active.

[Kylie]

See, the whole time you talk, they're every little thing they react to. I cannot stand it.

[Pumps]

See, I'm an active listener. Does CI drive you crazy?

[Kylie]

You don't do it out loud like on this podcast. You're not just the whole time Jennifer's telling a story, interjecting little. Yeah, right.

[Pumps]

Sometimes I am sometimes I'm an interrupter. I try not to be, but it's bad.

[Kylie]

I'm an interrupter.

[Avocado Mattress Announcer]

It's hard.

[Pumps]

So is there a fine line between interrupter and active listener?

[Kylie]

Yes. I think that's a big difference. Like, I think just learn to nod if you just really want to let them know you're listening. But, like, I do not need that active of a listener. It's distracting to me.

[Pumps]

You know what I. What I do sometimes, though, and this is really bad, I will nod. And I'm constantly giving off, like, an affirmation, I'm with you. And in my head, I have no free idea what they're talking about. I'm, like, doing something else, thinking about something else. Like, they could be bringing me in on a conspiracy of some criminal enterprise, and I would not know it because I am blessed with such an ability to not even know what's happening around me. You know, I've had my new car for two years, and one of our listeners, Joe Estrada, he set me up with it, right? So about two weeks ago, I realized I had a sunroof. So I've had this car for two years.

[Queen Carvania (Carvana Ad Character)]

What?

[Pumps]

And I never knew I had a sunroof. So I text him, and I was like, oh, my gosh. I just realized I have a sunroof. And he was like, how the fuck did you miss that? And I'm like, I have such a great ability to ignore everything that's going on around me and sit in my own head.

[Kylie]

You do. Honestly, on this podcast, sometimes I'm thinking about what I'm going to say next, and so I won't be listening to you guys at all on accident. And then I'll hear my name. Kelly, what do you think about that? I'm like, I agree. I have no clue what anyone's saying.

[Pumps]

I'm the worst about that. Okay, here's something that happened. We were. Jennifer and I were getting interviewed by some, like, Washington Post. Like a real magazine, Like a real newspaper. I mean, Washington Post, you could debate, but.

[Caller Sarah]

Right.

[Pumps]

It was a real interview, and it had gone on for, like, an hour. And then she bring exactly what you said happened. I'm thinking, like, oh, my gosh, what do I have to do next? Do I have to bathe the dogs tonight? Like, I'm just going over something else. And she asked me the question, and I just had to look at her and say, I am so sorry. My mind wandered. Can you repeat the question? And I'm sure she was like, you're the Biggest fucking dumb ass. But, I mean, I just like my attention span. And I'm not even a Gen X or what am. I'm a Gen Xer Boomer, right? Not a boomer.

[Kylie]

A what's older than Boomer.

[Pumps]

Oh, my God. Speaking of that list. Oh, my God. Okay, so I have to get up super, super, super early to walk my dogs in the morning on the weekend. So, I mean, I'm like five o'.

[Avocado Mattress Announcer]

Clock.

[Pumps]

I'm walking through my neighborhood. So I walked everybody. Then I dropped them off, and I thought, you know, I'm craving a NIHOP pancake. So you like ihop, huh?

[Kylie]

You like ihop? Like, a lot.

[Pumps]

I love IHOP because I like the pancakes, like, with the butter. Like, I want extra butter, no syrup. So I go into ihop, I order my pancakes, everything's hunky. Door. I'm like. And I'm in and out in 20 minutes. Like, this is the fastest meal of my life. Which is an A plus plus. I get my check, and it was $6 because she gave me the senior discount and did not tell me the senior. I was just like, oh, no, are you kidding me? I didn't ask for the senior discount. As much Botox as I have, I was really kind of halfway pissed off at my injector girl that this woman just automatically gave me the senior discount at ihop, which is the old people capital of the world.

[Kylie]

What is this? Is it 65?

[Pumps]

No, I think it was 60 at IHOP, but I got the senior discount. And I just want everybody to know I don't get it at the movie unless I ask for it, which I do not ask because I would rather pay the two extra dollars I.

[Kylie]

Did you pay more than $6? I would just pay out of, like, principal extra.

[Pumps]

No, I. But I did. I mean, this is mixed messages, but since my meal was only $6, I gave her a $6 tip. So she's probably thinking, oh, my gosh, great. She was so happy I gave her the senior discount, which really, I'm not happy about. But I actually did get a $6 senior menu at IHOP without asking. So that tells you how fucking great I looked after I took the dogs. And it's like 6:30 in the morning and I'm rolling out on a Saturday. Yeah, but I was just really. I guess in your mind, you always look better than what you actually look. Because for years, I mean, still to this day, I do not have an attorney pass into the courthouse. I stand in line with the criminals because I. I feel Like, I'm younger and cuter than what I reflect in pictures. So I refuse to do that.

[Kylie]

You are so young and cute, though.

[Pumps]

So young and cute. Okay, let me tell you what I've had it with. Speaking of old people things.

[Kylie]

Okay.

[Podcast Host/Moderator]

Okay.

[Pumps]

We've talked about prank calls. Everybody knows. Everybody hates prank call. Got it. In the last six months, I have gotten three, count them, three, phone calls from a cruise line. And they get hostile. You haven't taken advantage of your ship. Our ship's going to leave without you if you don't. And I'm just like, I've never been on a cruise. Why do you have my number? And they're very threatening. Like, the. The one I got, like, two days ago. I felt like it was almost a threat. You're not coming on our cruise. Like, they're aggressive, and I'm just like, is this why old people end up on so many cruises, is because they feel threatened?

[Kylie]

They get bullied? I was gonna say, I feel like there's a through line between these two stories you just told. I feel like you're and maybe an AARP call list.

[Pumps]

I am, because listeners signed me up for it. Kylie.

[Kylie]

I know.

[Pumps]

I think that's AARP magazine. Thank you very much.

[Kylie]

I think that's how they got your number.

[Pumps]

Yeah, but I'm just like, who would go on a cruise after they threatened you on your cell phone? Like, it's all the bad things I hate. Unknown number on my phone. Voicemail. Threatening voicemail. And cruises. I've seen the poop cruise on Netflix. I've seen how bad a cruise can go. And I'm out.

[Kylie]

I never go on one.

[Pumps]

Never. I did. I will say this. I did go when I was, like, 25. I went with my grandmother because she was, like, 90 and she couldn't. And we did Alaska, and it was a. It was really nice. And I would just go do all the excursions. And she sat down the ship. So that was nice to go with her because I think you get a certain age, you really can't travel. Travel.

[Kylie]

You know, there are people. We might have covered this on the show, but there are, like, retirees now that instead of going to an old people's home, they're on a permanent cruise. They live on the ship.

[Pumps]

I can't imagine anything worse, especially after, like, that poop coming down the walls.

[Kylie]

It's euthanasia, basically.

[Pumps]

It is euthanasia. Okay, Ryan.

[Kylie]

Yeah, we've got Ryan here.

[Pumps]

Oh, Ryan, what have you had it with? Other than Kylie getting you sick?

[Ryan]

Well, yes, we've definitely had it with that. I will say I've been sitting over here really shaking because for the first few minutes of this recording, I was going over the news stories, and then I realized that there was some kind of habit about active listening. And I thought that I was going to be called out and you guys were going to ask me my opinion about it, and I was gonna have no clue what to say. I have had it with moving. I moved this past weekend, and I truly would not wish it on my worst enemy. Maybe maga, but that's literally it. So I moved in. I'm moving in with my boyfriend for the first time, which is exciting, which is exciting. But I have a really negative attitude about moving. Every time I moved in the past five years, especially in New York City, has been the worst day of the year every time. And, you know, I decluttered. I threw away, you know, half of my stuff because we're moving into a smaller apartment. We're downsizing one bedroom and had all my things packed, ready to go. We pack up all my stuff first, and then we get to his apartment. And I will just say this in case he's listening. I love you, but he did not. He, like, barely prepare for the move. He did not prepare at all. I get there, his bedroom looks basically the same as it usually does. And you know, his family very graciously. We didn't hire movers. He's a very large family, and they are helping us to move. And I just want to fucking lose it. But I know that I can't. I know that I need to keep my shit together. We got through the move, and then as soon as we finished, you know, unloading everything. Not everything's put away. Both of us look at each other and we're like. I feel a tickle in my throat. And now we're both sick because of Kylie.

[Pumps]

Fucking Kylie. Okay, number one, I completely agree. Moving is akin to torture. I mean, I would rather be hung up and waterboarded for 15 minutes, then move. It is horrible.

[Ryan]

Really tests a relationship. Thankfully, all of our stuff is unpacked now. And, you know, it's very exciting, but. Yeah, I. Like I said it is. I really wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.

[Pumps]

No, it's the worst. Okay, Ryan, here's something that you and I have alike. I'm going to ask you a question, then we're going to go to Kylie.

[Kylie]

I know exactly what you're about to ask.

[Pumps]

Since it's kind of the Newlywed Game Since Ryan is the latest to the party. Okay. So, Ryan.

[Ryan]

Yes.

[Pumps]

When you go on a trip and you come back, how soon after you get to your apartment do you unpack your suitcase?

[Ryan]

Oh, I. Wait. I. It'll wait. The luggage will wait in the suitcase. Like, the. Everything will wait in the suitcase for.

[Pumps]

I'm so disappointed.

[Ryan]

For days, actually. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's not good. I don't know. There's something. It is unbelievable. And I know that that's a flaw of mine. I'm working on it, but I'm not working on it. Yeah, to be honest, I'm not working on it either.

[Pumps]

Like, first year of the podcast, we traveled to 10, and Kylie would not unpack her suitcase in between travels.

[Kylie]

Yeah.

[Pumps]

So like, three weeks.

[Kylie]

I was like, half still packed by the next tour.

[Pumps]

Okay. And then. Okay. But, Kylie, when you moved to New York, and I'm not saying what Anna did, because I know Anna would get everything done, but if you were by yourself and you moved to New York, how long would it take you to unpack your boxes?

[Kylie]

I was sitting here thinking we might still have, like, a box or two unpacked while you were talking. And we've been here literally seven, six or seven months. Here's the thing. One thing I'm good at is knowing my weaknesses. So, Ryan, I hired movers. I hired. I did white glove. I didn't have to do a thing because I wouldn't have done it correctly or at all. So I just. I know when to pay people to do the things I'm bad at.

[Ryan]

I will correct my statement. I said days. It's probably more like weeks.

[Kylie]

No, I like, really organized. Like, I'm very organized out of the suitcase, and I just live out of it for about a week.

[Ryan]

Here's the thing. Like, if I open the suitcase, I have to admit that I then have to, like, put everything away. And if I keep it closed, then it's almost as if it never happened and it's not there and I don't have to deal with it.

[Pumps]

So, Brian, you've got dirty underwear sitting in a closed suitcase for two weeks. Is that what you're telling me?

[Kylie]

On air?

[Ryan]

Yeah, when you put it that way.

[Pumps]

On air. So everybody knows you have nasty underwear. When I travel, this is. And especially when I had little kids, when I travel, when I land from the airport, I get every single bit of my laundry done and put away before I go to bed. And if I get in at 3am I get the kids down. I could not go to sleep now Granted that was control issue city when I was married to a sociopath but it just, I cannot even now. Like this weekend I'm going to go out of town and everything when I get back will be in the laundry. Folded the whole nine before I go to bed that night. It, it grates on my nerves to have shit out of. That's kind of the reason why having my kids at home from college, not everything's in its place all the time. I think I have serious OCD tendencies. Not terrible but I just like, just like a little order in my life that makes sense.

[Kylie]

From how your marriage went, I think maybe you crave little bit of order.

[Pumps]

Let me tell you this Kylie. When I was married and had three kids I would sweep and mop my floor two or three times a day. That's how big my control issues were.

[Kylie]

Yeah, you couldn't control the things I

[Pumps]

can control what's going on in my life.

[Kylie]

You had to control the floor. Okay, we've got some news stories today.

[Pumps]

Okay. Delish.

[Kylie]

And they're good ones if I may say so. The first one is influencer 96. So around Pump's age. Says retirement home threatened to kick her out for partying. Quote, I pay $12,000 a month. You can't stop me. It's this says Tick Tock Influencer Grandma Droniac has more than 15 million followers on tick Tock. Recent posts include Get Ready with Me videos for funerals and ranking the people she has outlived.

[Ryan]

That is to ask if this 96 year old woman has 15 million million followers on TikTok.

[Pumps]

Do we have a video of her?

[Kylie]

We do, but we gotta get through one more excerpt first. So this is more from the. The article says in the letter and quote formal warning, an employee from the retirement home wrote to Droniac, we are reaching out because there have been many noise complaints about your room. Parties are not allowed and you cannot serve alcohol to other residents. This is a safety concern. While we encourage residents to socialize and enjoy community activities, we cannot have wild parties. It is shown on security footage that people were leaving your room at 1am last Tuesday. And it goes on to say continued incidents of this nature may result in restrictions on visitors and common area privileges and could lead to further review of your residency status within the community. We kindly ask for your cooperation and ensuring future gatherings remain respectful of community rules and quiet hours. No parties please. I actually. So back in the day before this podcast I used to DJ and in college my favorite DJ gig I ever did was at A retirement home in Stilwater, Oklahoma. And they had their spring formals and, like, their winter solstice dance. And so I got to see some shit. These people were sneaking in, like, little bottles of vodka that they would learn how to hide, or their granddaughter would bring them in. They're getting hammered. They would come up, and all old men would come flirt with me. I mean, it was, like, the time of my life. These people get wild.

[Pumps]

Okay, I have so many questions about this. Okay, so this woman, is she. Are the only people at her parties like residents, or are they people coming out from the community? Coming in?

[Kylie]

I would imagine it's residents.

[Ryan]

I think they're residents. Yeah.

[Pumps]

Okay. In 96, like, staying up to 1am that is like, goals right there. I mean, I can't stay up past 9. I mean, if I'm at past 9pm Something has gone horribly wrong with my life. Like, I cannot believe she's saying, here's the deal. I just remember hearing this, and I was shocked. And I've heard it a million times since then. There are more STDs.

[Juan Naula]

Yeah.

[Pumps]

In a nursing home than in a college campus. Which, given that I went to college and I know a lot about STDs from that experience. I mean, soup to nuts.

[Ryan]

Tell us more.

[Podcast Host/Moderator]

Yeah.

[Kylie]

How much?

[Pumps]

I cannot. Okay, this is a funny story. This is a super funny story. Okay, so there's a health clinic. It's called Goddard. So if you go in, it allegedly is private, but they put it on your bill. So that sucks, because then a parent's like, why are you getting tetracycling? I know. Okay, so this is when I was in college. So Hippo wasn't that great yet. Okay, so have a girlfriend.

[Kylie]

She.

[Pumps]

She comes in and she's like, I've got the clam. I've got the clam. And I was like, what is that? She's like, chlamydia. And I was like, oh, God. It was right before Christmas break. Okay, so she's dating this guy. They're not boyfriend, girlfriend, but they're dating. So she goes back home. She was from California. She goes back home to California. Oh, and they give you some important part of the story. So they give you antibiotics for yourself and partner. So the prescription bottle. I'll use my name. Angie Sullivan. Angie Sullivan, Partner on the prescription. Okay, so this is important. So she goes back home for Christmas break. Now her dad's a doctor. So this is a real fate twist. So he's in her room welcoming her back. Da, da, da. She has her antibiotics sitting there, it gets knocked off on the floor, he picks it up and it's the partner medicine. So immediately announcing that she has an std. So her dad goes, I guess whatever the prescription was, it was like obviously for chlamydia. And he's like, oh, so you have chlamydia.

[Kylie]

God,

[Pumps]

can you imagine anything worse?

[Kylie]

That might be my worst nightmare.

[Ryan]

I'm interested in the fact that they give you one for you and for your partner because I, I guess just using logic, of course, but I would imagine that you just having, you know, monogamous sex with your partner, you wouldn't acquire an scd. So there would have to be some kind of third party involved. Like do you understand line of logic I'm following. So then there would have to be.

[Pumps]

Is no such thing as monogamy in my experience. It's kind of just a sex fest. Or apparently in these nursing homes. 96 year old. So are you not allowed to have booze in a nursing home? I guess no.

[Kylie]

You have to sneak it in. I think, I think I would guess they maybe have like a red wine or something, but they're sneaking in bottles. I actually have a video from Grandma Droniac. She's responding to the letter on Tick

[Queen Carvania (Carvana Ad Character)]

Tock and you cannot serve alcohol to other residents.

[Kylie]

I just want to pause and for the listener, just want to point out that grandma is wearing a T shirt with an arrow pointing up at her face and on her boobs it says eyes up here.

[Queen Carvania (Carvana Ad Character)]

Letter serves as a formal warning. I could do what I want. I pay $12,000 a month to live here. I could party if I wanted. My girlfriends are coming over tonight. We're gonna drink and gossip. It's not a party, but we do get rowdy. I can't help it. I love to party. You can't stop me. They are here.

[Ryan]

I'm obsessed with her.

[Kylie]

I'm obsessed with her. I've never seen her. She's about to get 15.1 million followers.

[Pumps]

15 million followers. Her get ready with me was kind of cute with her pick and her hair.

[Kylie]

She's doing the gua sha. She's like all up in on it.

[Pumps]

What's the gouache? Is that the like tone, the lymphatic

[Kylie]

drainage thing that Tick Tock influencers have made up, in my opinion.

[Ryan]

There's. There's one more thing about this that I want to read. A rep for Grandma Droniac. So she has representation.

[Pumps]

So she's got a manager and an agent.

[Ryan]

Manager, yeah. Said in a statement to People magazine that this quote actually happened and that the matter has since quote been resolved with her nursing home. The home is allowing her to still have people in her room until late. She just can't supply alcoholic drinks for the rep. I mean she's 96 years old. Let her do what she wants. Yeah, like she's made it this long

[Pumps]

and she's doing it. Get ready with me. Yeah, she's got game at 96. She has more game at 96 than I have at 56. Yeah, I mean her mind's still with it.

[Kylie]

She. I think that sucks. I think these people do pay a lot to be in retirement homes.

[Pumps]

Yeah, they do.

[Kylie]

Living out the rest of their lives. These places can be really boring. I don't think that there should be that many rules. In my opinion. These are grown ass people past.

[Pumps]

I mean they are fucking grown ass people. I just wonder if it's just sexcapades if they're pulling trains and doing all that.

[Kylie]

They are pulling trains.

[Ryan]

She made. She also made a few videos about hooking up with your ex after you break up with them. And it shows her like in a car, in a car seat, you know, looking all sort of disheveled. Post hookup. She.

[Pumps]

She's a bad 96 year old grandma was in a car banging it off. Love that for her. Can you imagine if you go up to a car as a policeman and it's two 90 year olds banging it out?

[Ryan]

Just leave them alone.

[Kylie]

Absolutely. Let them have it.

[Pumps]

Yeah, just keep walking. I got busted having sex in a car one time and it was horrifying.

[Kylie]

Did you get in trouble?

[Pumps]

Huh? No, they were just like move on. And I was like great. But I mean you've never seen my ass move so fast from hop on, hop off to ass in the passenger seat faster. I mean it was like the speed of light because it was so humiliating.

[Kylie]

Poems. I always. I love learning new stuff about you. Just every episode.

[Pumps]

Yeah, I mean so many things. I did have jello shots off my boobs in New Orleans. Once you knew that.

[Kylie]

You know what I. In New Orleans I. They'll put a tube between their breasts with a jello shot in it and they'll come up to you and they were like, we were there and they force you to take it and you're like haha. Okay, fun. And then they put their hand out and they're like okay, $12. Oh yeah, no, I got grifted by boob jello shots.

[Pumps]

This was back when the sagging dragons were. I mean they were Rocks. They ready to party. They were.

[Ryan]

I mean, it was like, I will

[Pumps]

pay you to see those beauties.

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[Kylie]

Okay, we've got one more news story. This one is from Rolling Stone, I believe, and it says AI chatbots let people keep dead loved ones alive. Should they? By feeding in digital data, AI can create a facsimile for people to interact with. But some believe a tool to help with grief could backfire. And it goes on to say memory preservation has long been a part of tech's business model. Now, as the digital legacy market is expected to reach 78.98 billion by 2034, there is a small but growing cohort of digital afterlife firms that provide users with interactive AI powered tools meant to preserve the memories and characteristics of a loved one. Post mortem, as the tech becomes more accessible, questions have emerged about its potential harms, consent, and who stands to benefit. Some startups like Hereafter AI, Storyfile and Eternos offer services like video avatars and conversational AI trained on a deceased person's data. Microsoft has patented a system to recreate people as interactive avatars, including those who have died. Meta has granted a patent that would use AI to simulate a deceased person's social media activity, although the company said has no plans to move forward with it.

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Right.

[Kylie]

Pumps. What do you think?

[Pumps]

Okay, here's. I'm so torn on this. I, I, I, I, I don't know what I think. My biggest concern, I think would be that if you still have a loved one and you continue to maintain a relationship with that loved one after they die, that precludes you from making relationships outside of the AI. So in that way it's bad. But then I think if I lost a child and I could hear that child's voice every day and I could talk to that child, what would. So, I don't know. I'm so torn. Y' all are younger than me. What do you think,

[Ryan]

Kylie?

[Kylie]

I think I, and I know this is like a, a saying that people say all the time, but this actually is Black Mirror episode. Like I've seen this. I don't know how I feel about it. I think Pomps, you make a good point that you don't move on. Like, even, even if you do, you know, you lose a child, of course you're probably gonna do it. Yeah. I don't think you could resist seeing them again, talking to them through this. But you still are not moving on.

[Jake]

Right.

[Kylie]

I also think on a less like, morbid note, people are going to use this with people that are not dead. Like, I could see a crazy ex whose boyfriend left her and she's like, I'm gonna keep him alive. It sleeps in bed with her. She's still dating this person. That's a real person.

[Ryan]

Kylie, you were in my mind. I was. This completely reminded me of the Black Mirror episode. Pumps. Have you seen Black Mirror?

[Pumps]

I have not. I've seen, I mean, I know what it is. And I tried to watch one episode one time and I think it was the very first one way back in the day. And it was like, like they were like stabbed a bunch of pigs and there was all kinds of weird and

[Ryan]

I was like, yeah, it was really disturbing episode. Anyway, basically it starts in the episode. It starts as just a chatbot and then it evolves into a full blown doll, I guess a robot basically becoming the person. So that person is acting completely as your deceased loved one. And basically the episode goes on. It basically tortures this woman's life and she can't get herself to kill it. So it ends up just living in her attic the entire time. And they have A young daughter who's growing up, and on the young daughter's birthday, she can, like, go up and say hi to her dad. It's really creepy. Anyway, that has made me really kind of scared of this kind of technology. I know that as time goes on, it probably will become more common, and maybe for some people, it's a way to deal with grief. But I don't think that this is something that I would ever use because it's just so dark.

[Kylie]

I am torn, though, because I'm like, when it comes to grief, I'm kind of like, fuck it. Like, whatever helps do. I don't know.

[Pumps]

I mean, people. I mean, I know people that have gone to, like, psychics and, you know, mad it's not madams, mediums, they go and they reach out and they talk to their deceased loved one, and it brings them so much peace.

[Ryan]

Right?

[Kylie]

Yeah.

[Pumps]

So I support that. I think there's such a fine line between brings you peace and keeps you dependent. But I agree. I mean, grief is really, really tough. And I don't know, like. And who's to say, like, Mark Zuckerberg, I don't want him telling me, you know, when the cutoff point is or you can only access it five times a year or whatever. People decide, like, well, and I definitely

[Ryan]

don't want, like, a dead one's social media activity being replicated. Like, why would. Why would you want your, like, dead grandma posting on your Facebook wall? You know, it's that. That creeps me out. If you're doing it, you know, with yourself, I, you know, I guess do what you want. Probably not for me, but I. I think we can draw a line there.

[Pumps]

Not doing social media, a lot of

[Kylie]

these technologies, I'm like, okay, yeah, maybe that's good. When you think about who's in control of it and the data that has to be entered about, you know, my mother, all of her memories or data is going to these oligarchs. I don't know. Then I just don't trust any technology anymore.

[Pumps]

No, I completely agree. And I've just gotten to where everything that comes up about A.I. i just hate. Yeah, I just immediately am a no with all of it. And you know how. Remember when Jennifer was talking about, like, her AI, like, knowing it was AI and going down the rabbit hole. I went down a rabbit hole not knowing it was AI, which I know surprises you. It was about those babies that you take away their. Their. They've been blind and you take away their eye patch and they see their parents for the first time. And they're so happy and they smiles. I'm 20 minutes down that rabbit hole when I realized it's the same fucking parents. And I was just like, are you fucking kidding me? I had followed the account. I mean, I was all in. I was like, this is the sweetest thing I've ever seen. So I just. I hate everything about. I. I just. I don't. I think it brings more problems than it solves, especially when you think about how kids underage are being led to, you know, commit suicide, and it tells them how to make it easier. And I also am a big believer in friction makes you grow.

[Kylie]

Yeah.

[Pumps]

Different perspectives, disagreements. You have to work through them. You have to learn how to do that. And if you're just constantly being affirmed, like, we think these people are titty babies in, you know, the younger generation because they have to have mommy come to work with them and, you know, their husband talks to their boss. That shit's crazy. Imagine if your AI chatbot, like, I, I just, I don't understand. I just think it's going to bring way, way more problems than it solves.

[Ryan]

Well, and I think kids just aren't learning as much either. Like, I kind of got out of college basically right as ChatGPT and all these other AI platforms were coming to the picture. If I had AI when I was in high school or college, I know for sure I would not learn as much as I did because it just makes it so easy and accessible to get what you need instead of doing the actual work yourself.

[Pumps]

Yeah, you got to do it yourself or you just don't learn as much, I don't think.

[Kylie]

Okay, do you guys want to listen to a couple voice memos?

[Pumps]

Sure.

[Kylie]

Okay, first we've got Jake, Jennifer's grievance

[Jake]

about men cutting her off in line when it's time to board a plane. And I would like to use this as my opportunity to apply for a formal exception because I agree people should make space for Jennifer and Pomps with when boarding a plane. And obviously I would let you all go first. However, I fly frequently, and as a gay man, I think that I should be allowed to cut people, men or women, because typically the gate lice don't know what they're doing. And I've already previewed their boarding pass on their phone because they don't realize that everyone can see everything that they're doing. And. And typically if I cut off a woman or a man, it's because I already know that my boarding zone is better than theirs. And they don't know what the fuck's going on. But on the surface, I realize that it looks like I'm just being a millennial male piece of trash and cutting off people, but I actually know what the fuck I'm doing. So I would just like this to serve as an application for exception for most people, but specifically me, a gay man who knows what the fuck they're doing.

[Pumps]

Well, you know, this podcast is always going to give an exception for a gay man.

[Kylie]

The gay exception. Yeah.

[Pumps]

Okay. Speaking of a gay exception, I was just thinking about this the other day because I saw two straight people sitting on the same side of the booth and I was repulsed. But I know there's a gay exception because it's super cute. Ryan, do you and your boyfriend sit on the same side of the booth?

[Ryan]

No.

[Pumps]

Kylie and Anna are weird.

[Kylie]

Sometimes we do.

[Ryan]

Why? Like, cuddle up?

[Kylie]

Yeah, kind of.

[Ryan]

No, here's the thing.

[Pumps]

I. I agree with. I agree with the caller because of two things. Number one, when other outside of MAGA and the people that are die hard triple trumpers in the Maha movement, when did we start letting the dumbest, most clueless people lead us? Why in all these airport rituals are the dumbest people always in the lead? It should be if you have your boarding pass and you're ready to go, then you get to go first. The dipshit that's talking to her kid and you know, him hawing about the neck rest that doesn't have their boarding pass up. You have to wait. There has to be consequences for not having your shit together. That's my take.

[Ryan]

Yeah, there's something about airports that I think just makes people lose their minds. Something that I can't stand is people, everyone crowding around the line as all the, all the different boarding numbers are called. Just fucking wait for your number to be called. I'm seated. I'm relaxed. I'm waiting for the number. Also, I like to be one of the last people to board the plane. I like to, you know, get on and then as soon as possible take off. I still don't like flying. I'm claustrophobic, but I don't. I don't understand this obsession with, you know, getting ahead of one person. You're going to then wait in line to get on the plane. It just.

[Pumps]

Right. And there's a seat with your name on it sitting there. The seat's not going. I mean, I get Southwest is different, but nine times out of 10, like, you know where you're going, here's what I don't get. I know we've talked about it ad nauseam. Why don't they load this, the plane from the back up?

[Kylie]

Yeah.

[Pumps]

That makes no sense to me.

[Ryan]

Right.

[Pumps]

Why would you start in the beginning? Start at the back.

[Kylie]

No, it makes so much more sense. I think there's somewhere in Europe. This one they do front and back. So like first class.

[Pumps]

Oh, yeah.

[Kylie]

They have to go early and then the back goes and you meet in the middle and it's perfect. And my only issue with what you said, Ryan, is I always have a carry on. Any chance I can. I'm not checking and I get real anxious if it's a tight squeeze, if I can't find my thing, if it's not going to be where I'm at and I have to squeeze past other people. So I'm worried about checking a bag. I'm worried about overhead space.

[Ryan]

Okay, fair enough.

[Kylie]

You're always checking, though.

[Pumps]

I don't mind if I leave the airplane. They just put it on the.

[Kylie]

The je Bridge gate, checking because half the time they send it to the actual bag thing.

[Pumps]

Kylie, has that ever actually happened to you?

[Kylie]

Yes, it has happened. It has happened to me. They send it where they'll like check it, check it. And then you have to go down to baggage claim. I like when it's at the gate. That's nice.

[Pumps]

Pop it on the gate. I'm all in on that.

[Kylie]

Why don't we do that for everyone?

[Pumps]

And then why don't we just do that seating, overhead bins. What I hate is when you're loading your up and like, clearly the bags go horse. Well, I guess this would be vertically. So the compartment's horizontal. Clearly everybody's sticking their bags in vertically.

[Kylie]

Right.

[Pumps]

To make more room. And some probably MAGA always has to put their bag horizontally. So then you have to move your bag and their bag to create more space. I'm just like, look at the other bags. It's not that hard.

[Kylie]

It is for them.

[Pumps]

It is for them.

[Kylie]

It is.

[Pumps]

Okay, one more. Kyle's.

[Kylie]

Okay, the next one we've got is from Sarah.

[Caller Sarah]

Okay. Hbic, Skyler and Beth, this is your friend Sarah from Phoenix. I am going to join pumps in the not having. And I've had it with the cult currently known as maga. I've had to reach deep down into the dark depths of my soul for this one. I have had it with being connected to friends on multiple social media channels as well as text. And those friends have to message you something from every single channel they're sending texts, they're sending reels on Instagram, they're sending memes on Facebook, they're sending Tiktoks. Whatever. Pick a channel, please. I do not want to open multiple apps and see messages from you.

[Kylie]

This, I agree with. This so hard. I already hate responding to anybody. Like, let me show you guys just my notifications.

[Ryan]

I bet I have you be Kylie.

[Kylie]

Do you think you want to do a competition?

[Ryan]

I actually do want to do a competition because I'm almost sure I have you beat.

[Kylie]

Okay, you go first because mine are not loading.

[Ryan]

Okay. Am I just showing you my home screen?

[Kylie]

Yeah, my home screen has no notifications right now. What do you got?

[Pumps]

1151 texts that you have not read.

[Ryan]

5600 emails.

[Kylie]

Mine's not working. Oh, I don't have any notifications. Yeah, I bet you I have you beat those still like that, didn't.

[Ryan]

I mean, Kylie sees the amount of times.

[Pumps]

How do you not read your text? How do you have 1100 texts?

[Kylie]

Because, like, one out of ten texts worth me reading.

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[Ryan]

Because, you know, how do you know

[Kylie]

if you don't read it, you can see it. I can see who it's from. I know it's not worth it. I can see what.

[Ryan]

I get a lot of spam. I got a text yesterday. Quick heads up. Your America 250 mug has not been claimed yet. I don't need to open that. Like, I'm getting tons of spam. I'm. I'm in a lot of group messages. I'm not a group message participant. I just. I've asked people to remove me from them and they won't. I think maybe in hopes that one day I'll contribute. I'm just not going to. Like, I. I don't know what it is about it. I think I have some kind of like, group chat anxiety, but it is a flaw. I'll admit that I do one of these days.

[Pumps]

I don't think it is. Or just like, I don't want to hear. If you have 10 people on a message and everybody says the same, like, okay, yeah, that's a great idea. Then you're just. It's mindless conversation. And here's the thing. When you get. Get a text from the same person that sent you a reel, that sent you a meme, it's like they're. They want too much attention. They're too needy to be in my friend group. I like people in my friend group that don't need any kind of thing. Okay. But going back to this My youngest son does this. He has like 600 unopened messages. He never checks his text messages. It drives me crazy because I'll. I'll say, well, I sent you text. He's like, well, I didn't see it. I'm like, then that's your fault. You don't get to say I didn't see it. And be excused if you're not looking at the texts. So you're saying it's conscious? It's a conscious thing. Like, mom texted me. Clearly, I'm gonna ignore that.

[Kylie]

I mean, for me, it's not even on purpose. I so, like, you know, I just. I just don't think humans are supposed to talk this much to each other. I don't think to have this much access. Text messaging is fake. We made it up. So, like, I just. It is. I just don't feel obliged. I hate it. I hate it.

[Ryan]

Also, if it is really important, I will respond.

[Kylie]

Yeah, like, also, if someone texts me at work, just are at the wrong time. The only time I'm responding text, my friends will know is like, I happen to look at my phone, I happen to be doing nothing else, and I happen to feel like talking. There's like five seconds that they'll have me to talk.

[Pumps]

Yeah, that's the thing. To feel like talking. That's. But see, I prefer text messaging so much more to phone calls. I would much rather just get on a a text message than do a phone call.

[Ryan]

I think it depends on the person because there are friends who I really enjoy, like a really long phone call to catch up with them. And we never text. And then there's friends who are more like, every once in a while, I'll check in over text message. And that's how we stay connected. As a rule, I think I do not want people calling me every day. I just don't have time for that or the energy for that. I also hate voice memos. I cannot agree. Sends me a voicemail and respond like that.

[Pumps]

I have a standing role. Like, I will not respond to a voice memo. I have a girlfriend that's always like, hey, I'm driving. I'm like, I'm not listening to that. If you send it in a voice memo, I am not listening full stop.

[Kylie]

One thing about pumps, though, is she's doing voice to text and it shows.

[Ryan]

That's okay.

[Pumps]

Know how to do voice to text.

[Kylie]

You've literally apologized and said, sorry, I was doing my voice mean, like, accidentally.

[Pumps]

You like it? It says what I'm talking about and

[Kylie]

it Says, remember that text you sent me about sex?

[Pumps]

Yeah.

[Kylie]

In the middle of a work day.

[Pumps]

Oh, my God, yes, she. So all of a sudden, it's like, what happened?

[Podcast Host/Moderator]

Yeah.

[Pumps]

I love listening to, like, experts talk about stuff. So that expert on experts, like, it's linguists or. I like to listen to that kind of stuff because I'm always trying to get better. Always, always striving for more. So there's this. I finished this one. One of my dear friends, her brother was on it, so I'm listening to his. Then the next one it pops over is about intimacy. I thought it was like being intimate, learning how to be vulnerable in your relationships. I was not thinking sex at all. So it's about sex. This is like, from the time I turn on to where the old office is turning on or whatever. Well, it's all about sex and touching and all this. So I turn it off and I'm like, okay, I'm out on that. So I walk in. This is the best part of the whole thing. I walk into Kylie's office, I sit down, and she goes, really? Like, she's whispering to text me. Like, real quiet. And I'm like, I don't know what I text you, what I text you. And then all of a sudden, it hits me. She's like. And she just shows it to me. She goes, sex

[Kylie]

in the middle of the workday. I get this, like, sext from pumps. And I was like, okay, one, either pumps is finally a lesbian, or two,

[Pumps]

she sent me, she's sexually harassing for someone else.

[Kylie]

So I was like, hey, she had no idea she sent it. She doesn't?

[Pumps]

No. And then I knew, because then I looked at it. I was like, oh, yeah, this expert was talking. But Kylie was like. She was really hanging on that I was trying to be with someone else.

[Ryan]

Yeah, so funny.

[Kylie]

I was trying to be sweet, too, and let you have that.

[Pumps]

The whispering was the best part for sexual harassment. Like, she didn't want to embarrass me. If I'm sexting someone by mistake. Believe me, if I'm sexting someone, it is by mistake.

[Kylie]

All right, Ryan, do you want to show off Jen's book? He's got a copyright.

[Pumps]

Oh, yes.

[Kylie]

You can do the ad.

[Pumps]

Okay. Jennifer has a new book. Pre order today. Not today, Fascists. How. What does it say? The lives, the lies that got us here, and the truths that will reunite us. This is going to be such an important book. I think I really am excited about it. Please pre order. That really helps. Also, we have this flagship podcast on Tuesdays and Thursdays. We also have daily digestible news hits every day between 2 and 3. Depending on how up the world is, it might even be four. So we will see you next Tuesday and Thursday.

[Kylie]

Actually, Pumps, I've got one more call out. If you guys will send a voice memo.

[Pumps]

Oh, God, I forgot.

[Kylie]

Send a voice memo to our Instagram. Keep it around like under a minute 30. Some of these people have a lot to say and they do about five minutes. I'm not even going to play those much like the voice text messages. So around a minute 30, send it to our Instagram DMS. Also, leave us a review. On Apple. We're trying to get to some new record. We used to make up really good milestones. Pumps. So go, leave us a review. Yeah, we hit all our goals, but we really need your reviews because I need something to read or they're just not going to let me on the show anymore, so.

[Pumps]

And if you tell Kylie how cute she is in the voice memo and how smart and funny and darling she is, you're definitely gonna get on there. All right, we will see you next Tuesday and Thursday. I'll tell you what I've had it with.

[Kylie]

Let's hear it.

[Pumps]

I've had it with that

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[Pumps]

Yeah, great price.

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[Pumps]

No, no buyer's remorse.

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[Pumps]

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