Holy Horny Hypocrites

Summary

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Podcast Summary: "I've Had It"

Episode: Holy Horny Hypocrites
Date: February 26, 2026
Hosts: Jennifer Welch & Angie "Pumps" Sullivan

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Episode Overview

In this charged, laugh-out-loud episode, Jennifer Welch and Angie “Pumps” Sullivan dive into the intersection of right-wing politics, religious hypocrisy, sexism, and racism in contemporary America. Drawing from personal anecdotes, listener mail (both wild and worrying), and recent political trends, the hosts reveal the dangers of normalized misogyny and white supremacy, especially as it is perpetuated by powerful, so-called "Christian" and "pro-life" movements. The show ultimately becomes both a comedic airing of grievances and a deeply serious call for resistance—especially to the women listening.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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1. Everyday Annoyances: "Over Honking" and Road Rage

[00:50 – 04:41]

• Pumps' Grievance: “What I've had it with is over honking.”
  • She recounts being aggressively honked at for a mile by a clearly unhinged driver in traffic.
  • Quote (Pumps, [01:27]): “Normally it was my bad. This was not my bad. I was just minding my own business.”
  • Jennifer wonders if the driver recognized her as the "I've Had It" host.
  • Discussion about the social acceptability of light honking vs. road rage, and speculation that the honker might have been on drugs or “methy”—or possibly a “trumper” or just generally angry.
  • Discussion veers into anxieties about car accidents with dogs in the back seat.

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2. Listener Mail: From Prison Proposals to Hate Mail

[04:49 – 12:16]

• Prison Letter: Jennifer describes getting snail mail from “Mr. Prison,” an Arizona inmate whose “science papers” and $1400 were allegedly confiscated by prison staff.
  • Quote (Jennifer, [07:02]): “Despite him telling them not to remove his science papers, they did…and I want my $1,400.”
  • Playful speculation: Are the “science papers” real inventions or contraband? Are prison staff stealing ideas?
• Hate Mail: Jennifer reads a violently hateful, anonymous letter filled with threats and homophobic/racist insults, signed from West Virginia as “Number One Fan.”
  • The letter accuses Jennifer of being “Christophobic” and threatens her safety.
  • Quote (Jennifer, [09:22]): “When you speak out against the cult that is white Christian nationalism, and when you speak out against MAGA, this is the kind of shit you get. And I get this all the time.”
  • The hosts reflect on the deep irony of such “Christian” threats and debate the impossibility of reporting cross-state hate mail in an era where, Jennifer claims, the DOJ is “100% loyalty to the President.”
  • Discussion on how the justice system and social media have become unsafe and unaccountable for critics of MAGA, and the inability to find protection or recourse.

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3. Hypocrisy and the Illusion of Justice

[12:16 – 16:47]

• Collapse of Justice & Business: Jennifer lashes out at the collapse of institutional recourse—no Justice Department, no trusted FBI, lack of contract enforcement means a failing democracy and economy a la Russia.
  • Quote (Jennifer, [15:15]): “When you do not have a Justice Department…your economy is going to go the way of Russia, which is a failed state.”
  • The discussion spotlights the hypocrisy of so-called “pro-life” MAGA Republicans—pro-gun until a black man legally carries, pro-business but undercutting business by undermining law and order, constantly shifting principles.

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4. Political Prostitutes, Triple Trumpers, & Willful Blindness

[16:47 – 24:11]

• Jennifer unpacks the phrase “political prostitutes” to describe politicians like JD Vance who serve billionaires’ interests and have “zero conviction.”
• She puzzles over “everyday Americans” who are loyal to MAGA despite receiving nothing in return: “Pro-capitalism, but no capital. Die on a hill for billionaires who don’t give a shit about them.” ([19:23])
• Pumps and Jennifer discuss the evangelical church's alignment with capitalism and racism, giving examples from private Christian schools where racism is excused.

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5. Christian Narcissism and Casual Racism

[23:25 – 26:01]

• The hosts discuss the entanglement of Christianity and Republican identity in the South, especially through mega-churches and Christian schools.
  • Memorable Anecdote: Use of the N-word at a Christian school not resulting in real consequences.
  • Jennifer claims that Christianity in the “Bible Belt” is a “default setting of racism” that intensified after Obama’s presidency, and that Trump is the “redemption tour for the racists” ([24:32]).
  • Jennifer: “These people have ascended to power that have zero conviction in anything. It is so devastating to democracy.” ([16:47])

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6. Loving Black Culture, Hating Black People

[25:38 – 29:30]

• Jennifer points out the irony of racist Americans enjoying basketball, football, and Mexican food while holding racist views toward the very people who create those cultures.
  • Quote (Jennifer, [26:01]): “They still suppress their humanity. … These athletes get to have political opinions…they used that NBA floor as a way to highlight social justice and the meltdown from Oklahoma City Thunder fans was one of the more despicable things I’ve observed.”
  • Shout-out to Fox’s Laura Ingraham for the “shut up and dribble” comment directed at LeBron James, which Jennifer calls “the most demeaning white supremacist thing you could say."

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7. White Supremacy, Entitlement, and Culture Wars

[29:30 – 33:01]

• The entitlement mindset: Anything gained by others must mean a loss for whites (“If a black athlete has an opinion, you’re taking away from my opinion” [Co-host, 29:30]).
• Jennifer imagines a “white racist experiment”—forcing them to consume only white culture—and predicts a meltdown.
• Generational analysis: Hosts warn that emotional stunting and indoctrination from evangelical church breeds rigid thinking and perpetuates the cycle, but also see hope in the current "breaking free" among young people.

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8. Purity Culture and Sexual Shame

[34:06 – 37:43]

• Both Jennifer and Pumps describe growing up in environments where abstinence and purity culture were paramount, to the point of danger.
  • They lament lack of sex education, especially around consent, and the resulting guilt, shame, and dangerous ignorance about sex and boundaries.
  • Quote (Jennifer, [34:18]): “The problem with that is it causes such a danger for young people because they don’t know what consent is.”

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9. Evangelical Misogyny: The Pastor, the Purity Ring, and Systemic Sexism

[36:35 – 43:43]

• Jennifer slams Speaker Mike Johnson (“little Moses, Mike Grinder Johnson”) for the “radical” practice of fathers giving daughters purity rings.
  • The discussion expands into the perpetuation of misogyny and submission to men as “godly.”
  • Both recount how “good girls” are set up to excuse sexual coercion or abuse, and that evangelical women are taught to accept and even propagate patriarchy.
  • Both hosts describe how religious and regional culture leads to worse outcomes in crime, poverty, and education ([37:50]).

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10. Project 2025, Nick Fuentes, and the Mainstreaming of Misogyny

[41:21 – 49:50]

• Jennifer plays a disturbing Nick Fuentes clip in which he says, “Women are made to be fucked…They are mothers, whores, or nuns—end of list” ([41:21]).
• The hosts highlight the right wing’s refusal to condemn Fuentes—Tucker Carlson, JD Vance, Trump, and Project 2025 all refuse to distance themselves, signaling real danger.
  • Quote (Jennifer, [43:50]): “This is the future of the Republican Party…Trump is more radical than George W. Bush. Whatever comes after Trump is going to be far more radical.”
• Alarms are sounded about Project 2025’s open push for systemic female subjugation—no bank accounts, voting by the husband, restoration of “Beaver Cleaver days.”

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11. The Gender Backlash: #MeToo, Male Victimhood, and Blaming Women

[49:50 – 54:09]

• The hosts discuss the growing backlash against #MeToo and other social progress, as well as the scapegoating of women for male loneliness and failure.
  • As women gain rights, men suffer a “man-lash” similar to the “white-lash” after Obama.
  • They highlight the rise of male victimhood rhetoric and warn against the coming consequences as younger, more radical right-wing figures gain power.

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12. Oligarchs, Billionaires, and the Abandonment of Democracy

[54:09 – 56:30]

• Jennifer and Pumps ridicule tech billionaires and oligarchs for enabling authoritarianism despite their power and resources; they fantasize about how they’d be “good billionaires.”
  • The hiring and keeping of Nick Fuentes fans/Gripers by right wing think tanks exposes the mainstreaming of dangerous misogynist ideology.

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13. Mailbag Closer: Fans, Tour Cancellations, and Matinee Normalization

[56:32 – 59:00]

• Lighthearted close: Apologies to gay trio fans who traveled for a live show in Atlanta, only to have it canceled due to a bomb cyclone. The hosts vow: matinees forever!
  • Quote (Jennifer, [58:13]): “We loved it. They loved it. It was a fun crowd. So matinees are great.”

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14. Urgent Plea to Listeners—Especially White Women

[59:00 – 59:36]

• Jennifer ends with a clear call for women—especially white women—to wake up and fight for themselves and their daughters, as misogyny and authoritarianism are not relics but accelerating threats.
  • Quote (Jennifer, [59:10]): “What is being incubated for [your daughters] is a total erosion of all the progress we’ve made as a country.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “When you speak out against the cult that is white Christian nationalism, and when you speak out against MAGA, this is the kind of shit you get. And I get this all the time.” – Jennifer ([09:22])
• "These people have ascended to power that have zero conviction in anything. It is so devastating to democracy." – Jennifer ([16:47])
• “They are so void of any conviction whatsoever, they just change their opinions 180° on a whim. It's, it's fascinating really.” – Jennifer ([16:28])
• “They want the world to be curated for them…they have the audacity to watch sports and to cheer for the excellence of a lot of these athletes. And then when these athletes have an opinion, they're so triggered.” – Jennifer ([28:12])
• “If you want to be a white racist, you cannot watch football, basketball, eat at Mexican restaurants, eat at Chinese restaurants…” – Jennifer (Fantasy, [31:11])
• “A lot of the racism, your ability to excuse it is because of the Christian narcissism.” – Pumps ([24:12])
• “The problem with that is it causes such a danger for young people because they don't know what consent is.” – Jennifer ([34:18])
• “Women are made to be fucked…They are mothers, whores, or nuns, end of list.” – Nick Fuentes ([41:21] - audio clip)
• “This is the future of the Republican Party...Trump is more radical than George W. Bush. Whatever comes after Trump is going to be far more radical.” – Jennifer ([43:50])
• "What is being incubated for them is a total erosion of all the progress we've made as a country." – Jennifer ([59:10])

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Important Timestamps

• Over honking & road rage: [00:50 – 04:41]
• Prison & hate mail: [04:49 – 12:16]
• Law, justice, & MAGA hypocrisy: [12:16 – 16:47]
• Political prostitutes & everyday Trumpers: [16:47 – 24:11]
• Evangelical complicity in racism: [23:25 – 26:01]
• Racists enjoying Black/brown culture: [25:38 – 29:30]
• Purity culture & sex ed perils: [34:06 – 37:43]
• Nick Fuentes incel ideology: [41:21 – 43:13]
• Project 2025 & mainstream misogyny: [43:43 – 49:50]
• Post-#MeToo backlash: [49:50 – 54:09]
• The billionaire problem: [54:09 – 56:30]
• Mailbag fun & touring: [56:32 – 59:00]
• Plea for advocacy: [59:00 – 59:36]

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Tone & Style

• Bold, satirical, and unfiltered: The hosts pull no punches in their criticism while weaving humor and personal stories throughout.
• Conversational and vulnerable: Jennifer and Pumps share genuine anxieties about the state of the country and their own experiences—while still aiming for laughs.
• Urgent and activist: There is an undercurrent of a call to arms, especially to white women and moderates, to actively resist the growing misogynist, racist movement on the right.

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If you want a single episode that crams together the chaos, hypocrisy, and dark comedy of contemporary America—especially the religious right—"Holy Horny Hypocrites" is it. A warning, a roast, and a rallying cry all in one.

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Transcript

[Jennifer Welch]

ABC Wednesdays in comedian Nate Bergetzi's new game show. To win, you don't need to know the right answer, just what most Americans think is right. It's not about being the smartest. You just have to be the most average. We asked 100 average Americans, do they keep an empty gas can in their car?

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

No.

[Jennifer Welch]

Have they ever broken a bone?

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

No.

[Jennifer Welch]

I said a lot of no. That's all right. My wife says a lot of no as well. The greatest Average American. Wednesdays 9, 8 Central on ABC and stream next day on Hulu. So are we supposed to start the podcast?

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

Ready, one, two, three.

[Jennifer Welch]

Patriots, Gay trots. They Black Trio, Brown trio. And all of the triple trumpers can do what? Pumps. All right, pumps. What have you had it with?

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

Okay, what I've had it with is over honking. I like a good toot honk put somebody's attention. I got over honked yesterday for almost one mile and I really, it was not my fault. He came screeching up behind me, honked like literally half of a mile past me and honked again while he was passing me. And I was like, that's just over honking. Like a little tap is fine, but over honking?

[Jennifer Welch]

No.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

And I will be the first to say, normally it was my bad. This was not my bad. I was just minding my own business. But the other car in front of me wasn't going as fast and he came on like a bat out of hell, honked me for almost a mile.

[Jennifer Welch]

Were you in the fast lane or. The passing lane was a city street,

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

but I was in the fast lane. But we were coming up to a red light and there was a car in front of me.

[Jennifer Welch]

You think maybe he knew you were the I've had it lady?

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

No, I think he just had to be in his bonnet because then he switched over to the other lane and the car next to me while he's honking me, is even going slower than me. And so then I speed up so that he can get around me and get away from this other car because he was clearly so unhinged. And he started honking again when he passed me.

[Jennifer Welch]

Prior to the honking, were you on your cell phone?

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

No. I knew you would ask that. And I was not. I've done really good about trying not to text and I was not on my cell phone. I was not doing any. Like, generally it's me being an inattentive driver. It was not me this time, but I just thought, there's a place for a little honk. Just like, hey, you're at a stoplight, you're not paying attention. Little beep, beep. This guy. It was insane.

[Jennifer Welch]

Yeah. I don't. I've definitely really late on the horn with people, specifically when I'm at a red light and they're on their cell phone, because I have no tolerance for that. None. And I just think it's so rude that people are not paying attention because we all have places to go. And so I will. And I can tell they're on their phone and I just lay on it. But I wouldn't honk at somebody for no reason. I mean, I lay on it and it's not a deep beep.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

Like the whole mile.

[Jennifer Welch]

No, I would stop as soon as they go, I would stop and then I'd probably go around them and be like, I do kind of a road rage thing. Like, what are you doing? Get off your cell phone. You know, nothing's that important.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

No. That I would have been fine with. I would have 100 been fine with that. That was not this. This was like something was happening in his life that had nothing to do with driving. I felt like. And he was young, so I let it pass. But I mean, he was madder than a hornet at me.

[Jennifer Welch]

He.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

But the girl that was going slower than me, he let her off the hook. It's weird.

[Jennifer Welch]

I feel like we're missing a piece to this. No.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

I mean, it could be in my storytelling, but that was my vantage point. I may have done something that.

[Jennifer Welch]

We're driving perfectly normally. There's a car in front of you going slower than you were.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

Yes.

[Jennifer Welch]

Facing.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

Yes. And he was going super fast. Like, I thought he was going to hit me. And so when I saw him going super fast, I did kind of slow down because I. I didn't want to hit the. Like, if he hit me, I didn't want.

[Jennifer Welch]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

In front of me.

[Jennifer Welch]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

Like to make a three car pile up. So maybe he thought I over corrected, like slamming up. But I didn't slam on my brakes. I just, I looked up and I was like, oh, gosh, he's gonna hit the back of me kind of thing.

[Jennifer Welch]

Right.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

Thank goodness. Do you ever worry, like, when the dogs are in the back seat, you're gonna get hit and then the dogs are gonna be.

[Jennifer Welch]

I've had that worry before. Yeah. Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

But anyway, dogs weren't with me. It was not my fault. Generally I'm the problem driving. It was not me, but it was an overhunk.

[Jennifer Welch]

I wonder if he was on like meth or something. It sounds a little methy.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

Not that thought occurred to me. I mean, I could see it because immediately I thought, oh, yeah, he's a trumper. But I. He was a non voter.

[Jennifer Welch]

All right, in lieu of giving a grievance today, I'm going to share. I came back to Oklahoma City and I always come back to snail mail right on my desk. Right. And the snail mail here is a little sampling of the snail mail that I received. First and foremost, I received a letter from a guy that is in prison.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

Really?

[Jennifer Welch]

Yeah. And his was just going to refer to him as Mr. Prison because I don't want to give away his identity. And on the envelope it says that it's an inmate at the Arizona Department of Corrections. And it says, six pages enclosed. And then he says to the ADC staff, stop removing my science papers in my postal mail on envelopes.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

On the outside of the envelope right

[Jennifer Welch]

here it says, like, let me remove his identity. Right here it says, six pages, stop

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

removing his science paper.

[Jennifer Welch]

Stop. Whoops. Hang on. All right, right here it says, six pages, stop removing my science papers. And I could tell that it had been opened. And it says on the outside of the envelope inspected. Of course, I naturally thought about how you have told everybody that you would never date an inmate.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

So you think this is it, the love match.

[Jennifer Welch]

So I was expecting a hate letter. Right, right. Okay. Well, much to my surprise.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

Oh, my gosh.

[Jennifer Welch]

It was only one page. So they did remove his science papers.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

What do you think the science papers are?

[Jennifer Welch]

He's an inventor and he was sending me his inventions. That's what I'm getting to here.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

Okay.

[Jennifer Welch]

So it says, to Jennifer Welch, thank you for what you do. I have no Internet access, but I have access to whatever podcast the prison allows us to listen to. You were on the January New Yorker Radio Hour. Will you promote making all utilities public owned in a 70 to 80% flat tax, no deductions? And he has all of this legislation he wants me to promote. And then we go into the back page and it's all single spaced here.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

Nice handwriting.

[Jennifer Welch]

Yeah. We get to the back page and enclosed is some stuff. And I didn't get the stuff because despite him telling them not to remove his science papers, they did remove the science papers, which infuriates me because now I really want the science papers. So enclosed is some stuff I wrote up and the $1400 for free paper. So I think the prison stole $1400 he was going to send to me, which I'm furious about that as well. I am an inventor, science type. If you want any of my ideas to develop, have a good day. And then he signs the letter to me. So I was like, well, this is, you know, I get a lot of hate mail.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

That's kind of a nice change.

[Jennifer Welch]

I want the science papers and I want my $1,400.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

Okay. What I'm wondering is, and maybe this is crazy to think it must be pretty legit if they're taking it from him. Or do you think it's so crazy? I'm kind of thinking maybe he's like, on to something and they're trying to steal it.

[Jennifer Welch]

I think we're giving way too much Credit.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

Okay.

[Jennifer Welch]

To Mr. Prison.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

Okay.

[Jennifer Welch]

I. I mean, I. I don't know why. Maybe he's it. Maybe it's some sort of escape plan. Who knows what he is? It's probably some sort of contraband that he's trying to smuggle out of the prison. I don't know, but I don't. I doubt that it's. We have some Einstein in the Arizona correctional facility that the guard who has to read the mail is like, oh, God, no, we can't let this. All right. So then we get more on to the hate mail that I'm used to getting. And this one is from a guy in West Virginia. Anonymous sent it. And. And for the return address, they just put number one fan. So I was like, oh, another. It's not hate mail. Well, much to my surprise, it says, Dear Mrs. Welch, you were a Christophobic. You think just because people go to church they're white nationalists. What proof do you have you liberals are Nazi hate mongers? If I were you, I'd watch your back, you horse faced. Your face and nose make you look so ugly. I bet you take it up the ass, you ugly. Go yourself, you self serving, disgusting skank. Watch your back because we're coming for you. You. Oh, there's anthrax in this letter. So this is the kind of. When you speak out against the cult that is white Christian nationalism, and when you speak out against maga, this is the kind of you get. And I get this all the time. And I guess it, it never occurs to him that he's telling me in this letter that he's so religious and then he behaves this way. Right?

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

The irony of life.

[Jennifer Welch]

But my thing about this is who do I report this to? Do I do I send this to Cash Patel? When you have a. A Justice department that is sworn 100 loyalty to the President of the United States who is a thin skinned felon con man that sells pardons, lies all the time. And you get, if you're a person in the independent media and you get hate mail like this all the time, which I do, who do you report it to? Yeah, in the United States because we don't have an independent Justice Department. Trump just put in a Hitler style manner, he put his image, a picture of him, mugshot style picture of him on the doj. So, you know, I'm a big girl, I can take a lot of stuff. But when you get stuff like this and then, you know, we recently canceled our I've had it Twitter account because they were doxing my family's location on there. So I was like that, just delete the Twitter account. It's not worth it. Who do you report this stuff to in America?

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

There's no one because it's cross state lines. So it makes it federal.

[Jennifer Welch]

Right.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

So you would have to report it to the doj and I'm sure they'd give him a pat on the back.

[Jennifer Welch]

Right.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

I mean, it is unbelievable how terrifying a time it is in terms of law enforcement and criminality.

[Jennifer Welch]

Like I, I genuinely am puzzled. Like it's very clear that this government is set up for Trump and anybody who supports him. And that's it.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

That's it.

[Jennifer Welch]

That's the list.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

Yeah.

[Jennifer Welch]

I mean, the Supreme Court now he's accusing of being, you know, like foreign assets and all this stuff because they ruled against him. And so when you start getting death threats because you're exercising your first amendment right, which I have a right to criticize religion, there's a lot to criticize there. Based on his letter, how manic and maniacal this guy is. And obviously I don't think there was anthrax in the letter. If we both died before the episode's over, I apologize. But that's just something as, as I do this and I get this, these death threats because I have conviction and I care deeply about what I'm talking about. It attracts, you know, they put you on Fox, right. And then all of these white Christians that sit around and watch Fox, they support this right. You know, they, there, there's, nobody's going to say, hey, that's too far.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

Right. Don't do that. That's a, that's not something that you need to be associated with. You cannot do that. First memory. Nobody says anything. They don't.

[Jennifer Welch]

Yes. I just don't know who I'm supposed to support report that to. So I wanted to report it to the audience, I will have to say

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

it's kind of scary. It really is.

[Jennifer Welch]

Yeah, yeah. I mean there's no question about it. I mean it's, it's because people are just so rabid in their, you know, cult like psychosis for this man. It's just insane. And the fact that now you have people like talking is the first amendment. You get to talk. Yeah. And you have the, these right wingers, maga cultist that are so triggered by shit talking, yet they do it all the time. When somebody puts a mirror up to their faith and says, hey, I think white nationalism is racist, oppressive, hurtful to marginalized people and the opposite of what the central character of the religion taught, they freak out. Which tells you, you know, you've kind of clocked them. And it's an important conversation to have. But it's just the problem with this is the DOJ has said they're going to make files on people that talk about anti Christian sentiments, which we do all the time, and anti maga stuff that criticize America. And so my thing is like, do we have a first Amendment or not? Do we have a Department of justice or not? And I'm going more towards, no, we don't have this stuff anymore.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

I definitely don't think we have a Department of Justice. I think right now we still have the first Amendment. But we're only a year in. I mean we've got three more years. And you know, you see, you know, Don Lemon and another reporter arrested X three other reporters, three other reporters. So it's coming. They're constantly threatening the Mysalas brothers from Midas Touch. So right now we have it. But how soon will the DOJ who's making all these files, that's going through all your social, that's going through everything in your life. Because we know they are, because they've told us they are. They're making list, they're searching everything. Is it going to be a traffic ticket that turns into a six week incarceration? Like you just don't know. They are willing to lie, make up charges. There's zero, zero thought to is this, can I prove it? Is it true? Because here's the thing. When I look at all the cases the DOJ has filed against protester and alleged people that were involved with these ICE raids, every time they go to court and show the evidence, it turns out they were lying.

[Jennifer Welch]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

So there's zero thought that they would lie and make up something that you were doing. Right. Or plant evidence.

[Jennifer Welch]

Right.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

I think that the FBI planted evidence in a couple of these shootings that we've had. So it, it is very scary. But there is no doj, in my opinion.

[Jennifer Welch]

No, I mean, and there's no FBI like to report this, that, hey, I'm exercising my First Amendment. This is pro business whether you like it or not. You know, right wing podcast, left wing podcast, centrist podcast, girly influencer podcast, Bro spear Podcasts are not only First Amendment, but an integral part of the economy for all of the fiscal conservatives. And when you don't have a Justice Department, and I've been trying to make this point for months and months and months right now, it is inherently anti business when you do not have a Justice Department that you can either report threats to or that you can take a contract in to court to have enforced. Your economy is going to go the way of Russia, which Russia is a failed state. And it's just the pro life party of MAGA has just been so exposed.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

Yeah.

[Jennifer Welch]

For what hypocrites they are. That they say that they're pro life. They say that they're pro chat children, they say that they're pro family and they're none of it. They believe in absolutely nothing. They're all like rah rah sispoon ball guns. And then Alex Preddy has a gun that he's legally can carry and then they're against him having a gun.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

Right.

[Jennifer Welch]

They, they are so void of any conviction whatsoever. They just Change their opinions 180° on a whim. It's, it's fascinating really, that they can just die on a hill and then something on that hill as they lie there dead.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

Right.

[Jennifer Welch]

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[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

When you're talking about that, different people pop in my head that have done that, that have come out publicly. For example, J.D. vance about the Epstein files. You know, we're protecting pedophiles. We need to release these. All the things he said, and then he shuts it down. It's. And he knows we're talking pedophilia and he's willing to cover it up.

[Jennifer Welch]

But here's my thing I get JD Vance is a political prostitute. He was paid by tech oligarchs to change his mind. He has zero conviction about anything. Zero. I'm more curious about everyday Americans that really have not benefited in any way, shape or form by this administration. They're pro capitalism, yet they have no capital. They're. They'll die on a hill fighting for billionaires. And the billionaires don't give a shit about them, how they can change 180°. JD Vance got $10 million from Peter Thiel and they promised to install him as president. So I'm like, okay, if you're diabolical enough and you're a prostitute and you put yourself on the market, whatever Marco Rubio, he has wanted so desperately to ascend a higher power than Senate, he's never been able to do it. He's never been the boy wonder the Republican Party wanted him to be, but he wanted to be president. And so he knew, if I suck up to Trump, I'll be Secretary of State and after that I'll be in a great position to be president. So he's gaming something, he's getting something. It's soulless it's diabolical, but at least they're getting something from it. I'm talking about the everyday Americans that lose friendships, lose family members, lose their morals, do not get the tax break that all of the wealthy people do pay more, that Change their opinion 180 degrees based on the winds of Trump. That's what's more fascinating to me.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

No, I agree with that.

[Jennifer Welch]

I understand as, as gross and psychotic as it is, there's been political prostitutes forever. In many ways, there's a lot of political prostitutes in the Democratic party. They won't stand up and say abolish eyes. They don't have the balls to it because Palantir gives them money. These oligarchs contribute to them. So it's like, okay, all these guys are prostitutes. But I'm talking about like everyday Americans that we know that have died on a hill. I'm a fiscal conservative. I believe in my pocketbook. And then they continue to vote for Republicans that wreck the economy every single time, every. And don't balance the budget ever and contribute to it. So the whole argument that they're fiscally conservative is immediately disproven by their idiotic, repetitive vote for a political party that claims we are so pro business. In actuality, they are the death of business. They're short term business that ends up causing long term pain. That never makes the economy absolutely stable.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

Yeah, okay, so when you're talking, I'm going over the people in my, in my family that are die hard triple Trumpers. Number one. The, the Christian faith has been so intertwined with being a Republican. I think part of that, like they would feel like they could never vote for a Democrat because that would go against their faith. I know it sounds crazy, but I think that's something that they believe. It also feeds a lot of the stereotypes that they hold within themselves. The shit Trump does, like, you know, removing dei like white men have it so hard, like shut the fuck up. That in my family, the ability to be 100%, I'm a Christian, I'm moral, purity culture, da da da da da. And excuse everything. That was an ability that I was raised with. And I blame that on my faith that it was prayer with no accountability. And if you didn't like it, you didn't think about it. So I think there's a lot of dissonance there. And then I think at the end of the day, the bad things that are happening to people, it's just a narcissism and entitlement. Well, I'm white and have money, so I don't have to worry about that.

[Jennifer Welch]

I also think that these evangelical churches, the way they've set them up as businesses and the tithing and the prosperity gospel, really dovetails with capitalism in a way that has not behooved these people. But more than anything too, in the white Christian church, evangelical for whites. I'm talking about these mega churches. I'm talking about live church. I'm talking about the school you sent your kids to, Crossings Christian school. At the epicenter of that is racism. I remember there was a case at your kids school where somebody was calling another kid or using the N word, and the kid wasn't expelled. It was excused. Right.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

I think he was suspended, but not expelled. He should have been expelled immediately. The whole family should have been. Yeah, but then we find out the parents are like that.

[Jennifer Welch]

Well, of course they are.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

Yeah. I mean, and here's the thing. A lot of the racism, your ability to excuse it is because of the Christian narcissism at least.

[Jennifer Welch]

But also, I mean, in your instance, you grew up in it.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

No, no, that's what I'm saying. Like, it was just taught like, you're exceptional, you're entitled.

[Jennifer Welch]

Right.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

Other people, aren't you?

[Jennifer Welch]

Right. But when you grow up in a home where people are. When they refer to black people as the N word exclusively, it, it is a default setting of racism that I think people on the coast don't realize still very much exists in Bible belt America. And then when Obama became president, they, it really broke these races. It really, really broke them. Megyn Kelly said it on her podcast. We haven't felt good since Obama was president. And then Trump has been kind of like the redemption tour for the racists. Like, now fuck you. Now we get to do it. Now we get to be racist. And what gets me about these racists more than anything is how much they enjoy multiculturalism. One million percent like the racist that I've known. And, and these people have not been my friends. These are just people I've known. They sign their kids up for basketball. Okay.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

Right.

[Jennifer Welch]

Oh, okay. That's if, if you're racist, maybe go with croquet, you know, why are you putting your kids in basketball?

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

Right.

[Jennifer Welch]

You know, and, and then they enjoy football. American football dominated by African American athletes. A lot of people in the south, their favorite go to meal. Mexican.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

Yep.

[Jennifer Welch]

It's just, it's unbelievable how much they enjoy. But I think in that they, they still retain this. They owe us. Mexican people are to cook for us. They're to feed us, we're better. These athletes are to shut up and dribble, right? You are to perform for me. They still suppress their humanity. I remember, and I've talked about this before on the pod, but I remember during Black Lives Matter, the NBA was a leader forefront on that because, you know, I think it's 85 something percent of the NBA are black athletes. And so of course, these exceptional athletes that have made it ascended to the 0.0001% of all athletes. And so many young black Americans, or black Americans in general look up to them. A lot of white Americans look up to them. And they used that NBA floor as a way to highlight social justice and the meltdown from Oklahoma City Thunder fans during this time, because they put, you know, Black Lives Matter on the court and they were wearing like freedom or, you know, something on their jerseys. And how they felt like somehow that was taking something away from them. For an athlete to have an opinion, I thought was really one of the more despicable things I'm. I've observed, like either you support basketball or you don't. And if you support basketball, have some humanity in it. These athletes get to have political opinions. They get to care about social justice. Many of them came from the hood and dribbled their way out and have never forgotten where they came from. And then all of these white people use it as entertainment. And I'll never forget when that Fox, Laura Ingram said to LeBron James, just shut up and dribble. And I just thought that is the most demeaning white supremacist thing you could say. He gets to have a political opinion

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

and he has a platform.

[Jennifer Welch]

He gets to have it. You might not like it. Like Harrison Butker, the gay. I'm sorry, I mean, the straight kicker for, for Kansas City, he. He went out and he, you know, told women they needed to work on their homemaking degree and he thought women should stay at home and all of this. I don't like it. I root for him to miss every fucking kick, but I never really watch football. But if I see a highlight where he missed one, I love it. But he gets to say that people get to talk and you might not like it and you might get canceled for it, like in his case, but, you know, he didn't or whatever. But that's. You get to do that. I just think it's. It's just such a. I think it's such a gross. The racism in white America where they want the world to be curated for them. That's what curated for their sensibilities and their sensitivities. And they have the audacity to watch sports and to cheer for the excellence of a lot of these athletes. And then when these athletes have an opinion, they're so triggered and so narrow minded and so fixed and rigid in their thinking, they have a stage five meltdown.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

I think what you hit on is so important because it's. If a black athlete has an opinion, you're taking away from my opinion. Like they think that, you know, gay marriage affects straight marriage. None of this has any effect. There's no like through line in that. But like, you just look at how bad bunny people were going crazy, you know, football, super bowl, all that shit. Instead of saying, oh, I need to take a look at that. They want to be just over and over confirmed that they're superior and that a Spanish speaking artist would be at the super bowl takes away from them. I think it's a, if, if everybody's equal, we don't have more. And so they come at everything, we are entitled to more. So anything that anybody takes, takes away from me. Not realizing that it has zero through line.

[Jennifer Welch]

Well, and also it's just such a tell as to how uncultured these people are. You know, like I just got back from Mexico and the flight down there and the flight back. I mean, I was just looking as the people got on the plane, I was like, for sure, maga maga, maga, maga maga. And I thought, you know, I think this would never happen. But in my fantasy world, I would love for all of the crusty white racists that live in America, that are ruining this country, that are rigid, that refuse to grow, that have no empathy, no compassion, are a net negative on American culture. The worst human beings in this country are white racist, Period.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

Period.

[Jennifer Welch]

I think that it would be a fun experiment to say, okay, if you want to be a white racist, you cannot watch football, basketball, eat at Mexican restaurants, eat at Chinese restaurants. If we just said, this is what you want, here's Mississippi. We get all the cool black and brown people out of Mississippi and we put them all in there. No disrespect to any listener in Mississippi. That's a blue dot. I know how hard it is. I just pulled that state arbitrarily and they had to watch only white stuff, listen to only white music, and eat only white food.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

It's a total meltdown. Which goes back to. They are entitled to have it. I think. I really do. I mean, I just do not see it anything Other than just mass hatred, fear and entitlement and just narcissism. Like I am superior. I mean, it's called a supremacy for a reason.

[Jennifer Welch]

Yeah, yeah. And they just.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

That's a great idea though.

[Jennifer Welch]

Wouldn't that be great? And then have hidden cams.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

Yeah, I'm just.

[Jennifer Welch]

And like, people I know. And then watch like. And then they have a complete WI fi blackout. You can't go check, check a score. Your favorite university football team, your favorite NFL team, your favorite college basketball team.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

You can't. Your b.

[Jennifer Welch]

You can't watch. You can't check the scores on any of it. Like you, you want white supremacy, we're going to give you Mississippi. And you can't have any WI fi except for only white people WI fi,

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

which it turns out would be a lot of trans porn. But. Okay, here's the thing about that. The only bad thing that would come out of that is these people would spend more time at church with the hellfire and damnation.

[Jennifer Welch]

Good, good. Because it's not like they're spending less time.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

Well, that's right. But that would be, that would be, that would be what was left.

[Jennifer Welch]

But I mean, that's, that's. They would go there. And here's the thing. I just don't know that this. There's a younger generation that's come out of being fully indoctrinated. And the thing that people don't understand is religious indoctrination in the, the one that we're talking about, white evangelical megachurch culture emotionally stunts people. They get completely stunted. So you have emotionally stunted, histrionic crazy parents trying to raise kids and it doesn't work unless you completely indoctrinate them as well. And so it goes on and on. And that's why you have a generation of people that are kind of breaking free from the obvious grift that is these mega churches and this obvious lie that you should be a virgin until you're married. I mean, that's just one of the craziest. And that's their sole focus. Like that school that you sent your kids to. I mean, the sole focus is abstinence. Is abstinence only. Right, right.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

And every. Okay, everybody in a position of power had like 16 year old mothers in their family. Just as an aside. But that was how I was raised. Like you did not have sex until you were married, full stop.

[Jennifer Welch]

The problem with that is it causes such a danger for young people because they don't know what consent is.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

That's right. That was never discussed and so you

[Jennifer Welch]

have situations where you have horny boys and girls that get in these situations. And you don't know. A boy hasn't been taught. If a girl says no, that that means no. And a girl hasn't been taught how to advocate herself for herself. And then something happens, and then they have all this guilt and shame. Something that is completely natural. Nobody's ever taught them what consent means, how to respect your body, how to respect somebody else's body, how to prevent pregnancy. And then you have all of these deviant sexual things that are born out of that. Yes, out of that sexual shame that is taught to these kids. You know, I. So many women will not ever enjoy sex because it's always been pitched to them as this horrible, dirty thing. And then a lot of men, I think that's where a lot of the misogyny comes in, because they hate the object of their desire. They. They. That's where that is The. The driving North Star for the misogyny with women is. God damn it, I wish they weren't so hot. I wish I didn't want to them so bad. So I'm gonna hate them and I'm gonna make their lives hard.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

Equal or in my mind, greater to. Is that in an evangelical Christian family, misogyny, patriarchy, and sexism is taught. That's how it's supposed to be. Women teach it to their daughters. That's how I was taught. There it like. And in terms of consent, you would like, let's say, never had sex. Women, let's say you did that, you were super in it, and you did that. Then if something made you feel uncomfortable sexually, you don't believe that you have the power to stop it.

[Jennifer Welch]

Right.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

You know what I'm saying? So dangerous.

[Jennifer Welch]

Not teaching. Not teaching people consent and boys not teaching them how if a girl says no because they're only taught one thing, don't do it, or you're going to hell.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

Right.

[Jennifer Welch]

You're not pure. And the whole idea that the speaker of the House, little Moses, Mike Grinder Johnson, put a purity ring on his child is so crazy. Like, that is such a radical Christian thing, putting a purity ring on your child's finger and saying your virginity is mine until you marry somebody and then he can have it on your wedding night from me, it is so crazy. It is so crazy.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

I recognize how crazy it is, but that was all around me growing up. You know what I'm saying? Like, I was always like. I mean, I was never into it, but that was around me.

[Jennifer Welch]

And that I just remember growing up, all of my religious friends, they were all, they would talk about it ad nauseam, like, I could be a virgin. I got to be pure. I got to be a virgin, got to be pure. And then they were the first to lose their virginity. And then they're going to the abortion clinics. Yeah, and then they're going to the abortion clinics because they don't know. Yes. Yeah, yeah.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

No, I, I, that's how I was raised. So I completely get it.

[Jennifer Welch]

It's just, it's a, it's a bit, it's a real, like, that's the part of the electorate that us. Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

And if you look through the Bible belt, that's the lowest in everything. Like, highest in crime, lowest in, I mean, highest in poverty, lowest in, you know, helping people, education. Like, all the, all the bad things, they're super high. And all the good things, they're super low end.

[Jennifer Welch]

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[Nick Fuentes (clip)]

Women are made to be fucked. Literally. That is what it is. Act potent. We are act. They are potential. They have eggs. We have sperm. Sexual act actualizes the potential. Makes a baby. That is what they are made for. That. They're made to be bred. They're made to have kids with. Okay? They exist for sex. Women exist for sex. That is why they are mothers or they are whores or they are nuns. End of list. Women are either mothers, whores, or nuns. No other options. There are no female philosophers. There are no female inventors. There are no female generals or billionaires. They are mothers, whores, nuns. End of list. That's what you can be.

[Jennifer Welch]

All right, so people in the right wing have had a really difficult time swearing off Nick Fuentes. Project 2025 would not swear off Nick Fuentes. Tucker Carlson will not swear him off. And so to the triple trumping women that want their daughters to go to college and love their daughters, when you triple trump, it's bigger than just your tax bracket. You are incubating this type of misogyny. And this is the thing where you go, oh, my God, I had no idea they were going to go this far. And it's because you willfully denied what your religion is teaching you, if it is, if your religion is teaching you that you, that women need to submit to their husbands, that is an inherently dangerous position to put your daughters in. Yep, absolutely.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

And that's how I was raised 100. And I would say listening to him, that was never spoken like that, like that crassly. But the message growing up for me was kind of that, like a good girl does this and a slut does that. So the, the messaging, while different, the message is the same. I mean, a lot of that I thought that's kind of how I was raised. Although it was never that outspoken. But that's absolutely going on every single day.

[Jennifer Welch]

Yeah. And I just, I think that there's a whole lot of work we have to do in the female vote, the white female vote. And the incubation of this type of misogyny is something that should alarm Everybody right now. J.D. vance refuses to admonish Nick Fuentes. The President United States had dinner Mar a Lago with Nick Fuentes. And this movement and his movers movement is called the Groipers. It is getting such a, a pace to it that I think it's just really, really something that we have to put a highlight on because I'm very worried about the incubation of this form of misogyny every much as, every bit as much as I am the incubation of racism and anti immigration bigotry. But this type of women are a little bit more than half the population. And this type of stuff right here, this is the future of the Republican Party. And people go, oh my God, I can't believe she's saying that. No, it is. Trump is more radical than George W. Bush. Whatever comes after Trump is going to be far more radical than he is. And we're already seeing that in J.D. vance, we're seeing it in Tucker Carlson, and we're seeing it in Nick Fuentes. And this guy's young.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

Oh, he's young. And I think like the online stuff, the radicalization that's happening online, and there's nothing that I can pick up and read through that doesn't talk about how, you know, people are having less sex. They blame that on women achieving in the workplace, how men are so lone, like young men are so lonely, they don't have access to women, they're isolated. And everything that I see on that, and maybe it's just projection on my part, but it, it blames women and women's success for how pitiful these men are. And I think, look in the mirror.

[Jennifer Welch]

Well, there's a through line pumps with that. And what the point you were making earlier that more rights for women doesn't mean fewer rights for men. And this is, this is the all lives in the same place. And this is something I go hard at every single time. You cannot pick and choose which rights are important, which ones aren't. They're all universally connected. And so you see as the gender wars, if you will, or the gender equality issue as women have started to ascend and still have a lot of work to do, but they can have jobs, credit cards, no fault, divorce, etc, you see the male freak out.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

Yes.

[Jennifer Welch]

Okay. You see black people rising up. We still have so much work to do. One a black man became president United States. You see a white lash. So a lot of this stuff that we're seeing from men is a man lash. But you have educated people that are very dangerous in the sense that they placate the men instead of using the same language that more rights for women doesn't mean fewer for you. This makes us all better and all safer. And so still the narrative around this is still very male centered and blaming women. And so this with Nick Fuentes and others in the MAGA movement, because Trump's going to be dead soon. I don't know if it's five years, but it's not. It's our lifetime. I mean, he's going to drop, he's going to keel over. Right. But what he has incubated is what we need to be talking about. Trump's a lame dementia duck, moron. I'm so tired of talking about him. I want to talk about who is the resistance, what are they doing and what the fuck did he incubate? And what he is incubating is where I want to put my focus because to the white women that you want to raise, your girls and your little daughters tell you they want to be a doctor or they want to be a lawyer and you think, okay, yeah, that would be great. I kind of wish I would have had more financial autonomy. I would love for my daughter to do that. But your husband tells you, I'll tell you what, if you want to get that purse next weekend, you better vote for Trump. Get your own thinking. You don't have to vote the way your husband votes. Allow your daughter to be liberated from the shackles of patriarchal Christian control that, you know, you were raised in. I'm not talking about you. I mean, you did that. You did it with yourself and you did it with your daughter. But I'm talking about like the women that, that, you know, your friends from that school, it's, they're raising girls to go find husbands.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

Right.

[Jennifer Welch]

And sometimes when you find husbands, your husbands are abusers, not good people. And then this guy, Nick Fuentes and the Heritage foundation want to make sure women can't get away from that. Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

And you look at like they're trying

[Jennifer Welch]

to get rid of.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

I read the paper that they published. It was on substack. Somebody had gone through what, what Project 2025 is on women. And it, it is truly terrifying. They want to go back to, you know, Beaver Cleaver days where, you know, the wife gets X amount of dollars a month. That's.

[Jennifer Welch]

They don't want women to have their own bank account.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

No, absolutely not. No access to money. You know, Pete Hexess pastor, he had the Pentagon said women shouldn't be allowed to vote, that as a family, the husband does the voting.

[Jennifer Welch]

This thing is picking up steam. And, and that's why I want to go on. It's why I want to talk about it today. Because everybody gets cornered into their world of the Internet. And we as more mainstream style people always treat right wing conspiracy stuff as fringe. Well, now we have a conspiracy theory. President.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

Yes.

[Jennifer Welch]

A man who started his campaign based on a conspiracy theory that Barack Obama wasn't born in the United States. And because so many white racists were so broken by the fact that a black man ate off the china in the White House, this white lash and this punitive nature has come back. So this with what they're incubating with women is real. And when somebody with a lot of power and organization and diabolical machinations starts telling you what they're going to do, my thing is we need to start listening. And the Democratic Party and the opposition, the resistance to this should be talking about the Nick Fuentes. Yes. Every journalist should be putting, playing these clips for Pete Hegseth, for Marco Rubio, for J.D. vance, for Donald Trump and say, do you condemn this, do you condemn his statement here? Because he, he is a part of your big tent, your big tent of bigots. And so in the fight for democracy, we have to fight for so many things all at the same time. But one of the things that I've always fought for my whole life is the rights of women and women having autonomy and agency over their money, over their bodies, over their futures. And this is so dangerous and it's so tempting for young hormonal boys that have been told that sex is dirty and sex is bad to just buy into this, oh, I can marry a woman and then I can also have all these on the side.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

Right. And it's her fault. I lost my virginity. I'm having premarital sex, but it's not my fault.

[Jennifer Welch]

It's her fault. Right.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

I abused this girl, but her skirt was too short. I mean, that has been. I remember that my whole life. That was a.

[Jennifer Welch]

It's getting worse.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

It's getting worse instead of better.

[Jennifer Welch]

And a lot of this is a backlash from. Me too. Me too. Held a lot of people into account. And I think what we're seeing right now is a backlash. Trump second term is a backlash to a lot of progress. A black president, gay marriage. Me too. Holding these pervert sickos accountable. I think a lot of the resistance and releasing a lot of the Epstein stuff, whether it be Merrick Garland or Pam Bondi or whoever, Democrats, Republicans, is people, white men. Too many good men have been punished because of this MeToo.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

That's exactly right. And I can no longer slap my secretary on the ask or put, you know, put my hand over her boob at work. I read an article just the other day about that where. And I had heard that originally, like people like CEOs on Wall street or whatever, maybe I heard somebody say it, that they felt emboldened now that they didn't have to be so politically correct.

[Jennifer Welch]

Yeah. He said now we can say again.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

Right. And I just read an article again, like they're still talking about how, you know, to use Mark Zuckerberg's work neutered. That they couldn't do all that.

[Jennifer Welch]

And here's a, here's the thing I want to say about that. Mark Zuckerberg said that he felt neutered in the workplace because of Joe Biden's policies. If you feel like an 82 year old man who I could tell was old as knocking on death's door neutered you. You were neutered before. You were never going to be a fully realized penis. It was never going to happen for you. Mark Zuckerberg, if the policies of an 82 year old man neutered you, that dick was never going to get hard. Ever. It was. There wasn't a bottle of Viagra big enough that could make this thing happen for you. And that's, that's the thing that I feel like in this fight for our democracy, we have to be forward thinking as well as to what these people are incubating because the Democratic Party, myself included, had, would hear Trump and I would assume, well, nobody's going to Elect him. That's crazy.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

Nobody would.

[Jennifer Welch]

He's so overtly racist. And we have to start looking at. Because Trump is dementia duck boy.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

Yeah.

[Jennifer Welch]

He's going to drop dead or be termed out. Supreme Court's starting to buck him a little bit. He barely knows where he is half the time. So we have to start looking at what he's incubating. And the Democrats need to start attacking this and start putting the JD Vances in clips with Nick Fuentes putting the Heritage Foundation. Make the Heritage foundation so toxic, such a toxic organization that it. I mean, they refused. This is a conservative think tank that used to have kind of a legitimate standing. They've gone so far. Right. And that's the thing about Trump, man. He has broken so many people. Yeah. To their worst impulses.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

Yeah, that's. That's so true. Because the Heritage foundation is crazier than house rats. And they, like part of their board left. Because they would not condemn Nick Fuentes like that. That's. That's their guy.

[Jennifer Welch]

Yeah. It. Because they know they want his. Well, furthermore, him they're not condemning. Tells you exactly how diabolical their plans are.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

Absolutely.

[Jennifer Welch]

And that's where you have this weird intersection of these white Christian nationalists with oligarchs.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

Yeah. It is the strangest.

[Jennifer Welch]

Because they don't want democracy. White Christian nationalists don't because then they don't have power if the people have power. The oligarchs don't want democracy because then they don't have power if the people have power. And for very insecure, neutered people, everyday people, having power is a real threat. And it's a real tell on how broken, emotionally stunted and evil they are to their core. I mean, that's one of my biggest things about all these oligarchs is you have all this you money and you can't tell Donald Trump to off.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

Exactly. Tim Cook. You own. You run Apple. Like you have everybody on the planet at your fingertips and you're bowing.

[Jennifer Welch]

They're so undeserving.

[Nick Fuentes (clip)]

Yes.

[Jennifer Welch]

I would be such a good billionaire.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

I would be the best billionaire.

[Jennifer Welch]

See, the thing is, we would never be billionaires because in order to be a billionaire, you have to exploit people. You have to be heartless and you have to. There's so many, so much breakage along the way to becoming a billionaire where you know, you're people over and then the next day you do it, then it gets easier and easier and easier, and then you get to the point where it's just. You wake up just Depressed doing business. Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

Yeah. That really is kind of terrifying.

[Jennifer Welch]

All right. I have some cleanup here. I received a postcard in the mail, since we're going over on my mail, and it is from Michael and Gary and they. And Joe and Jake Wellen. And they said, flew all the way to see your show. Instead watched Mother Nature's performance. 0 stars. Would not recommend. We still love you, though. So these are four of our very original gay trio that, like Die Hard Stan, fans of the pod. And we are tour organizer. Marcus is his name. Marcus was like, I'll tell you what, in February, you should go to Atlanta because it won't be cold there. And so that'd be a great thing for you to do a little back to back. And we said, okay, we'll. We'll go on tour as long as they're matinees because we don't like to stay up late. So we plan it, sell out two shows, which is a miracle. Miracle. And then Atlanta gets a bomb cyclone. And we didn't cancel it, but the venue and the organizer, like, y' all need to cancel it. People in the South.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

Well, we were packed, headed to the airport.

[Jennifer Welch]

And so some of our patriots and gay trots went anyway. And I am so sorry.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

Yeah.

[Jennifer Welch]

That we missed you. And we rescheduled it for April 4th. We have a 1pm and a 5pm, 1pm, 5pm matinees because we're not going to start a show at 8pm which ends up being at 9pm ever again. Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

Because we like to be in bed

[Jennifer Welch]

by 9pm and I just want to normalize earlier. Start.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

And I just love it. The matinee. We had a matinee on our very first tour. People loved it.

[Jennifer Welch]

Yeah, they loved it.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

We loved it. They loved it. It was a fun crowd. So matinees are great.

[Jennifer Welch]

So I don't know if Joe J. Quillen, you know, they're Michael together. Are they going to come back again on April 4th? But I wanted to say I received your postcard, which it says Kashan Iran. So it's an Iranian postcard sent to us with Atlanta.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

So they sent it from Atlanta. They were mattering hornets when they sent it. Fair.

[Jennifer Welch]

But they were sweet.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

They're so sweet.

[Jennifer Welch]

They were sweet about it. I'm really sorry. That makes me feel really bad. That's out of focus. Yeah. So I'm really sorry about all that. All right. That's all we have. I just wanted to really talk to you all about this issue of sexism and misogyny and how bad it's incubating. And I want to make a plea to white women to fight for your daughters.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

Absolutely.

[Jennifer Welch]

Because it's that what. What is being incubated for them is a total erosion of all of the progress that we've made as a country. And we still have a long way to go. But my God, that is so insane. And he is young and he has an army called the Gripers.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

The youth part of it is the scary part. And we've seen Maga coded people on planes that were young, so it's real. Thank you for bringing it up.

[Jennifer Welch]

All right, like, subscribe all that. We'll see you next Tuesday and Thursday. I'll tell you what I've had it with. Let's hear it. I've had it with that. Listen up, patriots, gatriots and natriots. We have a new podcast that has dropped. It's called IHIP News. It's Monday through Friday. Every day, 15 to 20 minute hot takes on the political landscape of the United States of America, always served with a side of petty grievances.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

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[Jennifer Welch]

and review so that we will chart efforts with America's greatest legal mind. Pumps, Pumps. What does an eagle say? Kaka. A little bit more enthusiasm. Kaka.

[Nick Fuentes (clip)]

That's it.

[Co-host (possibly a close friend or partner of Jennifer Welch)]

That's. That's caca.

[Jennifer Welch]

That's the patriotism that this country needs right there.