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Jennifer Welch
So are we supposed to start the podcast?
Angie
Ready, 1, 2, 3.
Jennifer Welch
Patriots, gay trios, they trios, Black triots and everybody that's in maga. We've had it with you. And you can pumps. What have you had it with?
Angie
Okay, what I've had it with is this new thing on my Instagram which makes me not want to be on Instagram anymore, where it's constantly as I'm scrolling, it'll put an ad up and it'll say, are you interested in this? And so at first I was like, no, I'm not interested in this. Like responding to the survey in real time. But I just keep getting it. And so now I think by saying I'm not interested, they're doing it more because I'm interacting. So it makes me not even want to get on Instagram anymore because it's constantly, I mean, surveying me. I'm answering, I'm trying to say no, but they just keep pounding me with this. And I didn't notice this in Biden's America.
Jennifer Welch
I'll just say that, well, I think it's going to the unsolicited capitalism and buggery from the cell phone. Regardless of who is president that is going to continue. I mean, like, we are living in this whole new world with all of this stuff. And I mean, the thing is too, like, when I think about social media in general and who owns it. Yeah, it's so depressing. I wish we all had the balls just to get off of it.
Angie
Right?
Jennifer Welch
You know what I mean? Like Instagram, Facebook. Mark Zuckerberg, puss boy, submissive to Donald Trump. He's a submissive kept woman. My Apple phone. Hate it. Can't live without it. Tim Cook, submissive. Made a trophy a part of the hive mind. Had to go kiss Donald Trump's ass. Amazon. Wish I could boycott it. Tried a couple times. Don't have the discipline. I suck. And you know, he's a piss boy that is submissive to the needs of Donald Trump and Twitter. I mean, do we even have to get into Elon Musk and his obsession with tweeting about me, the podcast. Weird. So I, I don't know, I just, I, I, I have this tortured thing with like, I hate Instagram, but also like Instagram. I hate Twitter, but sometimes I get on there. I hate my Apple phone because I hate Tim Cook, but then I'm on it all the time. And then I hate being in America. Sometimes I hate being an American, but I live here. But I also love it. And then sometimes I can tap into this pride where I'm like, we gotta fight for it. And then other times, I'm like, God damn it.
Angie
It.
Jennifer Welch
It's just really, really difficult time right now. And I say that, and I'm a privileged person, right? And so I don't even want to imagine what it's like being an immigrant or even having melanin in your skin and how this gestapo is unleashed on you. And, I mean, if I'm struggling, which is I'm being a. For even saying that, I'm acknowledging it. Listener, I get it, but I can't imagine the fear that you live in, day in, day out, and then you have to live around a bunch of people that have no empathy for you and for your plight.
Angie
Well, and I think this whole Trump administration, the gaslighting, the whiplash, it's like emotional abuse on steroids. It's like sometimes I get these habits in my head, which was what we originally started with this podcast. And then I think what you really should be worried about is people losing health care, is people losing the ability to. To have their own reproductive care. And then I. And then it just becomes massively overwhelming. You know what I mean? So it's like, I feel like I need to be fighting all the time, but yet at the same time, it. It overwhelms me when I get too far into it. Like, I got on a thing with Mark Zuckerberg the other day, like, just because I hate. On Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos and what they have done, like. Like, I breathe. It's just part of the day. And I. I was like, you know, I've really let Mark Zuckerberg off the hook. That cunt needs to be raked over the coals at all times because he is neutered. When he. It just. It sent me into orbit. And then I just thought, you.
Jay Jurden
You.
Angie
You just have to let. You have to let that go, because it makes you crazy. Sometimes I feel crazy.
Jennifer Welch
Yeah. All right, let me tell you what I've had it with. I've had it with the administration inventing something that then they claim to be bringing back. And most recently, they've started this whole, like, whole milk campaign. And I. It's like. Like, the. The. The gist of it is, like, there's been a liberal war on milk, and RFK Jr. Is bringing back milk. So they've got pudding boy, you know, whose brain is so cooked beyond all recognition. I mean, it is so bad that he's in there doing some milk show and tell in the Oval Office. And then they start this whole thing, this like Got Milk campaign. Here's the thing that gets me about this is they're so painfully unoriginal. Like the whole Got Milk campaign where you take a drink of milk and then you have the milk mustache predates the MAGA movement. Yeah, but these guys are so imbecilic and so painfully unoriginal. They start this like, there's been a war on milk and we're going to rescue milk. And then they roll out the exact. They borrow everybody else's material because these people are so painfully unoriginal. They plagiarize everything. They plagiarize absolutely everything. And then they start this Got Milk campaign. And it's Riley Gaines, the. There she is right there, of course. Drink whole milk. This thing has been done before. And this is a woman right here, Riley Gaines. And we need to talk about her. This is a woman who tied for fifth place against a trans athlete. And now she has a whole career because she spoke out and demeaned trans people at the same time. Riley Gaines has goes on and on about a big Christian she is and how close she and the Lord are and how she is a foot soldier for Jesus Christ and she has her own relationship with her Lord and personal savior, Jesus Christ. And she's for family values and all of this. Riley Gaines is a pedophile supporter. Riley Gaines is a pedophile apologist. Riley Gaines is not for children because she is for Donald Trump and thus for Stephen Miller who are for abusing children, who are for taking children away from their families. Riley Gaines is one of the worst Christians in the United States of America. She is a bald face liar. She sends a message to young ladies that somehow she's a good person and it's all bullshit. She is a world class hater that uses her religion to try to provide a permission structure for all the white yoga moms that go to Starbucks and gossip about other people's kids because that's how shallow they are. To go along with the moral depravity of this administration in the name of Jesus Christ. It is appalling. It is an affliction among white women to not critically think, to believe that you're supposed to be submissive to your husband when the most submissive people in the United States of America right now are these MAGA men. I have never seen such submissive titty babies in my life. And honestly, Riley Gaines is far more submissive to maga, the morally depraved cult than she is to her own husband or she is to her Lord and personal savior, Jesus Christ. The breathtaking hypocrisy of this woman is absolutely reminiscent of the a lot of the tropes surrounding white women and her Eric Kirk and others that give white women a permission structure to not have empathy for other human beings and to buy into this bullshit that you're supposed to be submitt submissive to your husband when your husbands are submissive to a man that wears a full face of makeup every single day and whose brain is cooked. Fubar. Cooked. It's unbelievable how hypocritical these people are. And here's the thing. The Riley Gaines are going to remain after this man is dead, right? We've all seen him. The death is imminent, right? The Riley Gaines, the Erica, Erica Kirks, these people remain and they are injecting this breed of hateful Christianity into the culture and listener. We have to have a response to this. It's not cool to vote for a man who is in the middle of a pedophile ring. It's not cool to excuse child rape. It's not Christian to excuse child rape. It's not Christian to bully trans people. Now, I'm not a Christian, and why I have that moral clarity. And Riley Gaines, who will not shut the up about what a big Christian she is, is something that has really got to be addressed in this culture. And so to all the white women that go to all these mega churches and tithe and don't give a about anything except for your own little family when your husband's probably on Grindr, I mean, let's face it, he's probably watching Transporn while you're rocking the baby at night. All right? I mean, you have got to pull yourselves together because if you think you're going to be safe in this movement, ladies, you're not. The Riley Gaines, the Erica Kirks, all these Fox News people are riding the coattails of brave suffragettes and brave feminists that carved a path for you to be able to be the hypocrite that you are, to say you're for family values and to say that I want to be a homemaker and that all women should be a homemaker while you work full time, brave, progressive women fought for you to be the abject fake Christian hypocrite that you are. So Riley Gaines and Erica Kirk and all of these women, I want white women across the country to unite against these hypocrites and remind them constantly that you're allowed to be the hypocrite that you are because of progressive women, you twats. I've had it.
Angie
I've had it, too. And the Riley Gaines of it all. It's like in the. Erica Kirk, too. I'll put them both. They, like you said, you know, homemaker. We need to have babies. We need to do all this. It's like Erica Kirk didn't have her first baby till she was 35, okay? She was on a Bravo reality show called Summer House, which is like a dating house. Riley Gaines and Jim Jordan have the exact same thing in common. They allowed abuse on the teams of which they were on and or in charge of, and then they sit there and act like trans people or Riley Gaines acts like trans persons. The problem, you have a career because you decided I can have a career. That makes me hateful. The more hateful I am, the more followers I will get. I will give advice to women and completely ignore the fact that I'm doing the exact opposite. It's so gross. And I just. I cannot for the life of me understand how Riley Gaines and Erica Kirk do not see that the duplicity that they are engaging in. Women should stay home. They should submit to their husband. Yet I'm going to go around the country and be a working mom, and I'm going to work full time, but I'm going to tell women they shouldn't. I'm going to tell women they should submit to their husband, but I'm going to do whatever the fuck I want and get on Fox News and brow b aoc it just the hypocrisy, and it's like what I related back to just from my perspective is as long as I'm doing it, it looks prettier. As long as I'm doing it, it's okay. It's when other people do it that it's not okay. And that is something that I was indoctrinated with my entire life in these big, you know, Christian evangelical churches. What. What it looks like on other people. It looks better on me because I'm better. I can judge. I'm entitled. It's all about me. But, yeah, the rally gate. I mean, I could go from here until my head fell off about Erica Kirk and Riley Gaines and all the shit they say that they do. The exact opposite. And everybody just acts like, oh, yeah, well, that's just what you do. Well, it is what you do in these evangelical circles. That is what you do.
Jennifer Welch
All right, welcome to I've Had It, America's top DEI podcast. I'm Jennifer.
Angie
I'm Angie.
Jennifer Welch
Kylie.
Kylie
I'm Kylie, the head lesbian in charge.
Angie
That's right.
Kylie
Okay, I've got a couple reviews for you. We're going to start it off with this one. It says five stars, comes with side effects. And they write, I've had it has officially rewired my brain and I regret nothing. I'm a North Jersey girl and I listen so much that I now casually drop phrases like 12 times out of 10 surprises me zero. And buck up, Buttercup. Tight as ticks and enough to choke a bull into everyday conversation. Like their normal human expressions, I've also found myself in political conversations referring to Kinks, Moses, Mike, Grinder, Johnson, and Chuckles, which has resulted in multiple people staring at me like I've escaped supervision. Worth it. The most alarming side effect I recently taught myself. Caught myself saying Thursday out loud, confidently, in public. No shame. This podcast is hilarious, cathartic, and dangerously quotable. If you enjoy laughing, nodding aggressively, learning something, and slowly losing the ability to speak like a regular person, congrats. This podcast is for you. Surprises me. Zero that I love it From Karen.
Angie
I love.
Jennifer Welch
I really like that she signed her first and last name. I do too. You know that's in a world on the Internet of chicken shit cowards hiding behind some bogus avatar and bogus profile description bio. That Karen right there. She is the anti Karen. She said her first and last name and then her city and state lover.
Kylie
Okay, now to bring you down just a peg. We've got a one star that says just cringe and guess Nelling writes the Beavis and Butthead for post menopausal winos.
Jennifer Welch
So see, here's the thing. I would respect that so much more if we didn't have a chicken coward first and last name. And here's the thing. On top of calling out pointing out to Riley and Erica and others, Caroline Levitt would be another prime example. A lot of progressive women fought hard for you to be the duplicit, duplicitous hypocrite that you are. I want to remind these trolls right now, we're going to start a movement to liberate your real identity. I'm going to start a movement to where if you want to be a chicken coward online, you got to sign your name up to it. You want to call me Beavis and Butthead? Buckle up, Buttercup. Let's do it. Put your name down. I'm Jennifer Welch, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. Recently moved to New York City. I think you're a chicken shit coward. What's your name? Because Karen did it. She wasn't scared. I'm so tired of these nameless, faceless puss boys. Because, you know, that's just probably some pink arm in there in some red county that at night, you know, all day, are you a man or a woman? Right. Do you know the, the genders are there? How many genders are there? And then at night it's like tissue lotion, transporn, you know it. 12 times out of 10.
Kylie
12 times out of 10. I will say when we get on Fox News and we get a plethora of like death threats in our email, most of them are very chicken shit. And they'll make up an email that's like, fuck Jennifer Welchmail.com.
Jennifer Welch
Yeah.
Kylie
And they'll put a fake name. But some of them are really stupid and will put their actual email.
Jennifer Welch
Well, I respect that far more.
Angie
Right. I mean, here's the reality. These people have no courage. They have no honor. They don't really believe in anything but attacking the libs. So it's hard for them to assign their name because they don't know what their belief or what they're going to be mad about tomorrow because Donald Trump and Fox News haven't told them yet. So they can't sign their names because they're cowards.
Kylie
Okay, I've got a couple news stories that some listeners have flagged for me. This one is new research found that young adults with overly involved parents have less prestigious jobs than their peers. And it goes on to say helicopter parenting doesn't end at high school. And your research suggests it may come with unintended negative career consequences. Researchers followed US adults aged 18 to 28 for up to a decade, repeatedly surveying them about family relationships and work outcomes. The pattern was consistent. Parents who frequently advised closely monitoring decisions and stayed highly involved about appeared to make it harder for their children to fully launch into the labor market. And it also says this group of kids typically had lower occupational prestige than the peers with parents who took a step back.
Jennifer Welch
This does not surprise me at all. I mean, I just think helicopter parenting is. It's so bad. And having a son that just graduated from high school, the group me, the parent group me was just so torturous for an 18 year old that can drive, that can vote, who's about to go off to college. And that hyper parent involvement to me is a symptom that these parents are completely broken. Like, if there's this need to have this overwhelming and meshed codependent relationship with your child, you're the broken one. And you are breaking your child. And it's just a cultural thing that we need to deal with this. And then I feel so bad for like the normal parents. I remember, like, I had to work, I didn't have time to be a helicopter parent. I had to provide health insurance and a roof over the head. I didn't have time to be a helicopter parent. So when I would go pick up my kids from after school club, then sometimes these moms that didn't have to work would say, oh, there's no way I could send my kids to after school club. And I'm like, well, what a fucking luxury, what a luxury that your little puss boy doesn't have to go to after school club. But the reality is a lot of people have to work and the mom guilt is the same. And regardless. But I mean, I'm really relieved to see a lot of this stuff because I was not a helicopter parent and I had to sacrifice. I'm not one of these parents that could attend everything. And the reality parenting that I had to give my children is to say it's not reality based that I go to every single one of these events and society tells me this new, you know, world of helicopter pairing that I should feel bad about that. But really there's a lesson here. There's a lesson for me to sit down with you and clasp your hands and say, I'm, I'm unable to make this and this is adulthood and this is what it's like. But your grandparents are coming and so I love you, but I have to work. And I've always done that with my kids. And my boys are feminists, like believe in female empowerment. And there's just in being honest with your kids is just such a better platform for them to be able to go navigate adulthood than all of the parental fluffery. You're so special. You're so great. It's just, just like, of course our kids are special to us and they're unique to us, but they're holy not unique at all. Just like, I'm not that unique. Just like Pumps and Kylie were not that unique. There's 7 billion people in this world. I mean, it's just American parenting is so up to me.
Angie
Didn't we have like an article on here one time, kylie, where like 20% of these people, their parents have contacted their boss either by email or it was just like a ridiculous percentage. So it makes sense that job, you know, employers don't want interference from a third party. And it also makes sense these People can't make decisions for themselves because if Kylie's mother or Seth's mother called me and said something, I would immediately call Jennifer and say, we got to get a exit strategy for Kylie. Like, her mother called me. Like, that would be the first thing I would do because I would think that was so weird, so good that it's finally coming out.
Kylie
Okay. And then one other one that was flagged is pretty interesting. It says, GLP1s could save U S airlines about 580 million in fuel per year. It goes on to say airlines are obsessive about keeping costs low, low and take creative steps to lighten their loads. According to the report, United started printing its airline magazine on lighter paper and that move saved them 290,000 in fuel costs.
Angie
Wow.
Kylie
So if on average, passengers who weighed 180 pounds now weighed about 162 pounds, it could save them up to 580 million in fuel savings per year.
Angie
I think the airline should be buying GLP1s for people. I'm just going to say, you're welcome, airlines. I. I've done my part. I. I've stood up for the cause. And this is just another thing. Trump is constantly calling people fat and saying, talking about they need to be on GLP1s or they've been on GLP1s and I'm just like, do you have a mirror at your house? That just reminded me of that. But again, I'm obsessed. I need to stop.
Jennifer Welch
A Christmas miracle has taken place. So we decided to go do a live show in Atlanta on January 31st. And we were for sure, like, the ticket sales are going to be lackluster. Nobody's going to become. I'll be damned if it didn't sell out in like a couple of days. So the organizer was like, you should do another day. And I'm like, it's pretty big. Pretty big ass. Pretty big ass for two old broads like us, right? So we added an additional day. Ticket sales were getting about close to halfway. February 1st, center stage in Atlanta. And it is also a matinee because we are going to normalize matinees. We are going to normalize a reasonable start time. We're not going to start a show at 8 or 9pm no, it's past bedtime. Wake up the next day feeling hungover, strung out. Why did I hang out with all of these radical leftists, anti fascists? We're not going to do that because we're pro matinee, we're pro democracy, we're anti maga. And we're anti fascist.
Angie
Come see us.
Jennifer Welch
It's going to be so fun.
Angie
I love getting together at a live show with all the people. It's such a community.
Jennifer Welch
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Jay Jurden
Hello. I'm doing really well. How are y'? All?
Angie
Great.
Jennifer Welch
Excellent. The last time I saw you was in New York at the Don Lemon Show.
Jay Jurden
Yes.
Jennifer Welch
And you and I were guests and I think we crushed it. We tried not to outshine Don, but I think we might have.
Jay Jurden
We really. I mean, Don and Anthony, they really had to step to the side and let the true divas take over. At City Winery, there was one woman who had a question and it was so slurred that we did have to remind everyone we are at a winery. So we would need someone to interpret because she was a couple of flights deep.
Jennifer Welch
Yeah, she definitely was. All right, Jay, what have you had it with?
Jay Jurden
I have had it with comedians being soft on Nazis. Oh, my God. There used to be a blanket agreement that we would make fun of Nazis Neo Nazi winks and nods at the stupid ass stuff that happened in World War II. But now people like Theo Vaughn say Nick Fuentes is brave I don't get it. It truly boggles my mind. There used to be a baseline, sort of like bedrock agreement that hey, we're gonna make fun of Nazis because it's a stupid ideology. It's a self hating, a self destructive and just an inaccurate ideology. And for now, and for some reason now, comedians think it's okay to be like, yeah, that, that self described Nazi was brave. What? It just didn't make any sense to me. It doesn't make any sense.
Jennifer Welch
That's, that's a really good point because I did see a clip the other day of Theo Vaughn and these are the people, the Theo Vaughn's and the Joe Rogans that straddle two worlds. Sometimes you'll see Theo Vaughn say something really rational and really good, like the ice. I think they used footage of him and he was offended and he stood up and it was like, okay, moral clarity. Joe Rogan recently said, you know, the ISIS in Minneapolis is acting like the Gestapo. And I'm like, okay, moral clarity. But then if you, if you get out of the 30 second clips of these people, they're very dangerous because they dip their toes in both sides all of the time, which enables them to, to promote a lot of these really dangerous things. And Nick Fuentes is a neo Nazi that deserves to be ridiculed and read for filth all day, every day. There's nothing about him as brave.
Jay Jurden
He should be a social pariah. His totally, his name should ruin your reputation if you stand too close to him. Theo Von and Joe Rogan also have this connection to Latin America and to non white people. Joe Rogan's wife is not a white person. Theo Vaughn's father came from Latin America. We, you know, he was, you know, he was older and he came to Louisiana. But they both have connections to groups of people that would basically bar them from being welcomed into like a true Nazi ideology and like a true, kind of like super strict white supremacy fold. They kind of like get in and out of it and sometimes people use the COVID of. Oh, they're just comedians. But one thing that comedians usually understand is you understand if you are the joke or if you're in on the joke and they've also become the joke. You're a laughingstock if you can't point to something that uses like blatant Nazi ideology and blatant Nazi, like not even dog whistles, just clear like references and say, hey, I don't like that. That's kind of horrible. Get that out of my face.
Jennifer Welch
Can we discuss the video of Nick Fuentes and the Tate brothers and some other people with melanin in their skin that we can refer to as DEI Nazis.
Jay Jurden
Yeah.
Jennifer Welch
That are singing N word. Heil Hitler. Yeah, that Kanye west song. And every single one of those, if they lived in Nazi Germany, would be sent away to concentration camps in this weird flirtation. Marginalized people with white nationalism.
Jay Jurden
The Tate brothers are either one fourth or half black. Myron Gaines is Sudanese. Nick Fuentes is Latino and clavicular, has ADHD and is autistic. All of them will be put into the undesirables pile. They all would be on a train. It is so scary to think that seventh grade back of the classroom logic, which is just you say the slur to distract the teacher and to make your horrible friends laugh and giggle at something that's taboo. That cannot be the leading political ideology for young men online, and it cannot be tolerated. I'm glad that the hospitality groups in Miami banned them from everything in Miami, but I think there have to be bigger steps. People who are in entertainment, people who have the ears and the eyes and the reach of young men online have to basically not only disavow these statements, they have to never work with them again from a Twitch streaming standpoint. And they also have to say, hey, you guys, this is stupid. And if we look at Scott Galloway, this is what's ruining young men. It's not women saying, oh, I don't want to go on a date with you, it's this.
Jennifer Welch
Right.
Angie
I'm sorry.
Jay Jurden
It's so. It's And I'm. I'm a person who really does try to go, oh, let me see. Where. Where is the joke in this? Because I can look at it emotionally, but I can also think critically. Where is the joke? The joke here, for some reason, is that they want to upset people by doing a Nazi salute. And they think that people being upset by them doing Nazi Sig Heil is the joke. As a comedian, as a person who writes jokes, as a person who's written jokes for other people, that's not just the lowest hanging fruit that is on the ground, that is on the bottom of someone's shoe.
Angie
Well, it's not smart. It's.
Jay Jurden
It's not.
Angie
Comedy is smart. Yeah, it's not smart. Okay. I have a question I'm dying to ask a Canadian. You're at the. What's going on with Trump and his administration? Like, let's just take the cabinet meetings, for example. Like, if you were going to write a joke and do a parody reality is worse than anything you could come up with. So how has that challenged you as a comedian? Because what's happening is funnier, like in a dangerous way, albeit than the parody.
Jay Jurden
Yeah, well, there's something basically, that's the idiot plot, where the only way the plot moves forward from a comedic standpoint is if people keep making mistakes. So you have this sort of hapless group of individuals and none of them can seem to get their heads out of their asses. So that's what's going on now. But I would think the only way to make this kind of watchable and funny is you have to find one adult in the room. And we see this happen sometimes. And I'm not, I'm not. He's not a great person. We see this happen sometimes with Jerome Powell. We see, we see Jerome Powell go, wait, what? No, we've seen it with Marco Rubio. We saw Marco Rubio with the note every now and then.
Jennifer Welch
Hold up.
Jay Jurden
We saw Marco gave. We saw Marco Rubio gave Trump a note that Trump was supposed to do the directions on the note, but Trump read the note out loud. So every now and then we see them break character because they go, of course, of course, I respect this man. But every now and then, because the cameras are rolling constantly, because he wants the presidents to be a reality TV show, they have to do a basically Jim from the office direct to camera and go, oh, my God. Oh, my God. Not only is he incontinent, he's incompetent. It's in I I. It's insanely heavy handed writing. If you presented this to your head writer and you worked on a TV show, they would go, I, no, this is way too sloppy. We did the Greenland Iceland joke three times in 20 seconds in Davos. It's not. No, no one's that stupid. They go, this, this character is. And it's Angie. I'm so glad that you asked about it from a comedy standpoint because so much of this is tied to comedy. They want to memeify the White House. They want to troll people online. This all started because Seth Meyers and Barack Obama made fun of him one time at the White House correspondents there. And they wanted to take comedy back. It's why Tony Hinchcliffe wanted to do the Madison Square Garden show. It's why they say, oh, comedy's back. It's why Elon says, oh, we can make comedy great again or we can finally laugh at things again. They all are losers who were laughed at. And now they think, have you okay, have you ever seen someone who. Someone. They're. They're not that cool and they think, oh, when I finally get some power, I'm going to do what a cool person does. But because they were never cool, they have no idea what cool people actually do.
Angie
Right.
Jay Jurden
They have no idea what actually goes on. They were not getting dates. They were not making out under the bleachers. They were at home coming up with lists of people that they're going to make more money than or like, people they're going to screw over. When you look, you look at any old picture of Jeff Bezos, look at any old picture of Elon Musk, you know exactly what kind of pathology is happening right now.
Jennifer Welch
It's revenge.
Jay Jurden
It's Revenge of the Nerds. And I'm glad you brought it up, because in Revenge of the Nerds, sadly, I'm sorry, people like that movie, that movie has sexual assault. That's what this is. Whenever the, Whenever the main character sleeps with the girl while he's wearing the mask and she doesn't know it's him. That's what this administration is. These nerds who think they're going to, like, take it out on the rest of us. And what good is it if you rule over a pile of ashes and rubble? You can't troll your way into World War Three and nuclear proliferation and think, oh, yeah, this is great.
Jennifer Welch
And the attack on comedians is historically significant. Yeah, all autocrats do this. They're one of the first to go because they can't have somebody making fun of. Of the autocrat because the ego is so fragile. These, you know, at the core of this, Elon Musk, Donald Trump, J.D. vance. Yeah, all of these guys are submissive. The one thing they fear more than anything, they are submissive. They submit to their idealized version of masculinity, which is Donald Trump, who wakes up every morning and puts on a full face of makeup. I don't give a. If people wear makeup. Yeah, but MAGA does they care about that shit? I mean, that's, that's one of their big issues. Like, you know, one of their big cuts to me is like, are you a man or a woman? You know, like, that's their big thing is binary gender roles. And these submissive twats, yeah, they wake up and worship the. A man that puts on a full face of makeup every day. And comedians, to me right now, should be tripling, quadrupling down and in just brow beating the duplicity and hypocrisy of these guys. And how they want women to submit because they're tired of submitting to Donald Trump. And the jokes would continue to write themselves. But, God, I love browbeating conservatives. I don't love it. So fun.
Jay Jurden
Angie, are you also from Oklahoma? I'm from Mississippi. So to think. To think that this man with soft hands and a full face of makeup is the paradigm and the acme of masculinity as a person. My brother's a truck driver. Okay. I've known loggers, I've known truck drivers. I know oil rig workers. I know men. Men. None of them act this way when people have less power than them. And none of them are this childish because they have actual man to handle. And so if you do, they do. They do. They.
Jennifer Welch
They come home, they gotta do man all day long.
Jay Jurden
They do. And so it's so funny.
Jennifer Welch
And it doesn't involve submitting to other men.
Jay Jurden
And. And it doesn't involve lying to an older man who is about to drive us all off of a cliff. There used to be this agreed upon sort of rule when it came to at least masculinity that, like, you stood up for people who were weaker than you.
Angie
Yes.
Jay Jurden
And you protected those people, and then if someone was equally matched with you, y' all could have it out. Now, bullying and cruelty seems to be the only currency that they understand. It's also the only way that they kind of can throw out comedy. When someone is attacked, they think, oh, yeah, get them. They think it's hilarious that Stephen Colbert and Jimmy Kimmel got in trouble with their respective networks or got it. Got in a little bit of trouble with the fcc. They think that's so funny. You're battling a comedian. Oh, sure. You're so.
Jennifer Welch
What a tough guy.
Jay Jurden
What a tough guy. You're mad that someone made a few jokes about you. You won the election, you control the free market, and the one thing you're focused about, someone makes a joke about you in their monologue at 11:30 at night. That's. That's sad. There are people in this country who are starving, and that's your primary focus.
Jennifer Welch
These men are titty babies.
Jay Jurden
And they're spoiled. Riding and they're little.
Jennifer Welch
These are spoiled. These are titty babies. And here's the thing that we have to talk about. If you're going to run for political office, if you're going to be a podcaster, if you're going to get on the Internet, if you're going to be an influencer, whatever it is, if you choose, choose to be in public. And that's a choice that you make.
Jay Jurden
Yes.
Jennifer Welch
Specifically, if you run for president of the United States. You got to tuck your tail between your legs and stand up like a man and take that criticism because it's coming for you. And I remember when Barack Obama was president, he visited the state of Oklahoma. I lived in Oklahoma City at the time. I was really excited because presidents generally ignore Oklahoma because it's so red. And so he was coming to Oklahoma, and I drove downtown Oklahoma City, and he was greeted by. By a bunch of white angry racist with Confederate flags and shouting the N word hard R. And I was so ashamed. And you know what? He never said a word about it. Right. He ran for president. He chose to get up that day to go to Oklahoma because he was dealing with some sort of, you know, issue there. And he wasn't a victim of it. He didn't whine and complain and then have an army of titty, submissive, titty baby, hive mind creep that, you know, elongated the. The complaints. This thing that the pussy ism. The pussydom in maggot. These men are the biggest bunch of fucking pussies on the planet. And here's what I don't get. You're talking about men in Mississippi that do manly things. The fact that they're, like, still on board with this is really weird to me. And also, I want to get your take on all the photoshopped homoerotic images of Trump up. It's just a fascinating psychological case.
Jay Jurden
He brought it up in Davos. There is this infatuation with a daddyism and this paternal figure and this return to this, like, sort of like idealized patriarchy. But guess what? That ideal patriarch, he provides for his family. And if he's the patriarch of America, he's not providing for this family. He is falling short. He is ruining the country. He was. It's so weird that the first thing they say to any of us who are progressives, they go, they call us gay. And then we go, that's not a horrible thing. We know gay people. I'm queer because to them, that's the worst thing in the world. Someone who's queer. It's so odd that they call all of us queer, but all of the AI slop I see is Donald Trump with abs. It's him being totally 50 pounds lighter and he's glistening and he's brawling.
Angie
Erotic.
Jay Jurden
It's Jesse Waters saying daddy's home on Fox News. He said, daddy. He. He has the nerve to say anything about queer people. But then on TV at his job, he gets his eyebrows filled in and he looks into camera A and says, daddy's home. About a 79 year old. Listen, I'm not going to kink shame, but I don't watch that kind of porn. I need him to at least be cute. I don't want to watch Jesse Waters go down on Donald Trump every night on Gut Feel. That's not. Are the five. I don't want to watch that.
Angie
Yeah, it's gross. Jesse Waters. And he's constantly telling us real men don't cross their legs. Yeah, real men don't. And so. And we've seen him in person and he. I mean, it's the blue black hair dye. It's the sachet pancakes makeup.
Jay Jurden
Yes.
Jennifer Welch
So the prissiest thing I've ever seen.
Angie
So. So I think he's hiding something. Like the rab to Republicans. Okay, what's your take on Grindr crashing everywhere? Republicans congregate.
Jay Jurden
I think that every now and then the ladies do protest too much. Anyone who's only calling card and who's only money maker is making fun of trans women and making fun of gay men. They have a vested interest. We've seen this time and time again. Whether it's someone having a wide stance at an airport urinal, whether it's someone accidentally having all of this software on their computer, it always happens with these people who are these religious zealots and these puritanical anti gay legislators and kind of figures on the right. And the reason it is is because in their youth they were told, being gay is the worst thing you can be. Being gay is the thing that's going to get you out of heaven. So they fought against it their entire life. But there was that nugget that was gnawing at them, that one truth that they really couldn't escape. And so every now and then, incognito mode helped them, and then Grindr faceless profiles help them. But it always comes out. And I don't like focusing on South Carolina senators like this, but happy nuptials to Tim Scott and Lindsey, I think you'll find the right girl one day.
Jennifer Welch
I'll tell you what, Lady Graham is just an absolute piece of work.
Jay Jurden
I have never. And Lindsey Graham strikes me as someone who. Lindsey Graham strikes me. Someone who actually should be able to sort of see the forest for the trees. You've been a senator and you've been involved in US politics this long, you could easily start a pretty disruptive movement to the left of Trump to recalibrate what you think would be the Republican Party and everyone that's a kind of traditional journalist and all the legacy media would go to you and kiss the ring and bow your feet and finally be like, thank God someone's being an adult. If you don't believe me, look what happened with John McCain at the end of his life. You do one thing, you vote no on one stupid bill and you will get the, you'll get the framing when you pass away all the flowers complex individual. But at the end of day made the right decision. None of these people have the foresight to see they could do that. Instead, they have tied their anchor to this 79 year old who's actively sundowning in Switzerland. He said if it weren't for the US you'd be speaking German in Switzerland. They do you piece of.
Jennifer Welch
You know, back to Lady Graham. So he's, he's really, he's been in Israel lately and he just posted recently on his Instagram and he's got a big thumbs up and a big shitty grin on his face and he's like, I'm here with the director of Mossad. And I said to Pumps, how much video footage of Lindsay doing gay do you think Mossad has? I mean they've got him doing so much ladybug gay out the wazoo massage like, hey, Lindsay, get your ass over here. Don't you even think about talking about South Carolina, motherfucker. You get over here to Israel right fucking now. And he's like, yes, sir. And like we'll have some boy toys.
Jay Jurden
For you and Jennifer and Pumps, y'. All Imagine people in your home state struggling. The entire US economic like system is going upside down and you choose to leave your country to go make propaganda for a country that's actively harming brown people in the global South. I don't, I don't understand it. It would be as crazy as if there was an ice storm coming to Texas and they flew to California.
Jennifer Welch
They have evidence of Lindsay doing gay. I will always forever believe that because there's just no other logical explanation.
Jay Jurden
Right.
Jennifer Welch
Assad has Lindsey Graham doing gay. Lindsey Graham was raised evangelical Christian. He has all the shame. And here's the thing. I have always been the biggest. I used to be able to say this back in the day, but I don't feel fruit fly. Yeah. You know what I was about to say? Yeah. And so I had friends in the 90s that really struggled to tell their parents that they were gay. And they lived a closeted life, you know, passively for a while. And I had so much empathy. I had so much empathy for them. It was difficult because I have to go home to their parents who were these horrible evangelical, judgmental Lindsey Graham, Graham types, Donald Trump types, J.D. vance types. And just the cruelty of it. And then a lot of them ended up with AIDS and died. So I have a lot of empathy for that. But these DL demon queens. Yeah, that actively will not shut the up about masculinity. Gay people or trans people and women.
Jay Jurden
There'S this misogynistic angle that they think the best way to prove that they're straight and to prove that they're not gay is to take away women's right to choose what they want to do with their body. So there's this kind of four pronged approach to kind of throw people off the trail. And like you, what you were speaking, I mean, you're just preaching the choir. I went to ole miss from 2006 all the way to 2012. So there was. There was this small contingent of people who were out, but, you know, kind of that old boy, very Southern, evangelical South. It really constricts people and to see other people live as free. And, you know, I think the Democratic Party has made some strides, but sometimes they haven't been nearly as effective or as vocal as I want them to be when it comes to helping queer people and continuing to press. But they have an entire party, an entire party that used to at least be able to say, hey, we do have Log Cabin Republicans. That's not our tent pole issue anymore. We cannot care this much about gay people. Dick Cheney's daughter told us, we got to start being nice to y'.
Jennifer Welch
All.
Jay Jurden
That's what they almost did. And to backslide from that, to tell Log Cabin Republicans, we don't care. They made Log Cabin Republicans look like they were Cows voting for McDonald's. I do not. I do not understand why in 2026 that is the most important thing. And it's because they have to distract people from, I guess, economic issues and how much they're lying. But it's why it' wild to think about this. It's 2026 and there's still an anti gay party. That's insane.
Jennifer Welch
Well, I think a lot of it has to do with have they seen?
Jay Jurden
Have they seen? Oh, Mary, they need. That's a Republican president.
Jennifer Welch
I think we're such a religious country. And when you talk to Europeans, how the. The purity, puritanical aspect of American culture as opposed to other Western cultures. We're really religious. Yeah. Women here are like, super modest. There's this modesty, purity culture and this puritanical kind of vibes to it. And so you have a sector of the United States. It's very sex obsessed. Either. Sex obsessed with people not having it.
Jay Jurden
Yeah.
Jennifer Welch
Throwing purity balls for their little girls that are like, you know, 10. Where, you know, really weird. Really weird.
Jay Jurden
Oklahoma, Mississippi. If we look at those pornhub statistics, we know exactly what they're looking at.
Jennifer Welch
Okay, Jay, we're going to play a game with you called had it or Hit It.
Jay Jurden
Okay.
Jennifer Welch
Probably. You've probably heard of it, you've probably seen it. It's uber popular, world famous. Oh, my God. Welcome to had it or Hit It. I would hit it. Had it. I hit it every day, sometimes twice a day. All right. Had it or hit it? World War 3.
Jay Jurden
I have had it with World War 3 even before they start the Declaration. I do not need that. I have a lot going on right now. I. Now I have two pilots I'm trying to finish. So let's. Let's not have World War Three. Please, please, Just for my sake.
Angie
All right.
Jennifer Welch
Had it or hit it. Smokey eye. Sociopath. AKA the Vice President of the United States, J.D. vance.
Jay Jurden
Well, he hit it because Usha's pregnant again. Allegedly.
Jennifer Welch
Do you think ivf?
Jay Jurden
I. I think ikea. I think it was a couch. I think. I think he hooked up with Ashley furniture.
Jennifer Welch
Scraped it off.
Jay Jurden
Yeah, Yeah. I think she picked. I think she scraped it off of Erica Kirk's dress. I don't know.
Jennifer Welch
Oh, oh, oh, I. I love that you went there.
Jay Jurden
I love that.
Jennifer Welch
Injected into my veins. That's so good. Jay. We just talked briefly.
Jay Jurden
I.
Jennifer Welch
We've. We've studied a lot of images with him and his eyes.
Jay Jurden
Yeah.
Jennifer Welch
And it's kind of. It's kind of gotten to the back of the news cycle because they're escalating the fascism and the Nazi is.
Jay Jurden
Yes, yes.
Jennifer Welch
But in the early days of this administration, it was kind of quaint because.
Jay Jurden
When it was fun. Yeah.
Jennifer Welch
We could talk about eyeliner. And we really. We did a pretty detailed forensic study. Pumps in me. And we discovered that we found that little Smokey is what we like to call him. He had kind of a day look, an evening look, and a television look.
Jay Jurden
Yeah.
Jennifer Welch
With his eyeliner.
Jay Jurden
I love a look. Queen. I think he was probably a bit of a scene queen or scene kid when he was in high school. And also, it takes one makeup artist to be like, no, your eyes really pop with this. Trump has had the same makeup since the 80s. And he only does it himself. He puts it on every morning. He can't blend. You know, for a fact he does it himself. He refused. And I think J.D. vance had a similar experience where someone said, oh, this really makes your eyes pop. And so for the rest of his political career, he's gonna be penciling it in and putting on his eyeshadow and his eyeliner every day. And once again, for a party that isn't too keen on gay people, it's a. It's a lot of makeup.
Jennifer Welch
And here's just an. It's a lot of makeup. And here's something else I think that we need to point out. Not only are they super submissive, which is a spear into their uber masculinity thing, but we also need to point out that they are happiest in homo social relationships.
Jay Jurden
Yes.
Jennifer Welch
Not sexual social. Look at Joe Rogan, Theo von. Look at the whole bro sphere. These are people who look at the.
Jay Jurden
Look at what happened in Miami that was all boys.
Jennifer Welch
Homo social.
Jay Jurden
There's this specific instance where clavicular, I think, allegedly asked Nick Fuentes if they wanted to bring girls over, and he went, no, this is fine. Nick f. Routinely. Nick Fuentes routinely tells people to shun all fe. Straight guys, to shun all female affection and don't get in relationships. Having a girlfriend is gay, which is just kind of like mental judo he's trying to do to his, like, followers. They only want to live in this kind of, like, I don't know, idealized and not really actual, but mythical Roman culture that is all homosocial, where they all hang out with men. They think that women are just supposed to be vessels for more men. They think that a woman failed if she had a girl because they aren't contributing to the amount of men in this world where men can quorum and men can go to the bars and hang out and men can have these think tanks and it's so childish. It's such a childish thought. It is the plot of Little Rascals. They just want a he man. Woman haters club up. And they're all mad that Alfalfa decided to get a girlfriend. That's what this is. It's bleak. It's so sad. It's so sad that they think this is the way not only to be successful, but the way to get America. Because I don't know if they know anything, but women have the money. There are more women here. Women live longer. It's so wild to pursue. To pursue strictly male attention when women can make your Career politically or in entertainment. But, you know, I don't think these are the smartest individuals.
Angie
No. All right.
Jennifer Welch
Had it or hit it, Oklahoma.
Jay Jurden
Oh. Oh, okay. So this is tough for me because I have never. I went to Tulsa once. I went to Tulsa once, and the mall closed at 6, so. So I have hit it. I have hit it, and I will hit it again. I'm currently on tour. We haven't put an Oklahoma date for the new tour, but I've hit it, and I'll hit it again. I'm not a Texas fan. That's what you're asking, so. All right.
Jennifer Welch
Had it or hit it, Don Lemon.
Jay Jurden
I love Don. I haven't hit it. Let those rumors not start. I have. Yeah. Don might have entered that church. He has not entered me, so. So I love Don Lemon. Hit it. Hit it. He is hitting it. He is hitting the streets. He is chronicling what needs to be chronicled. Shout out to Don Lemon for going to Minneapolis, because a lot of people are going to Minneapolis for some reason right now, and I don't know why. I don't know why Don Lemon, an independent journalist, is the only person with enough gumption and enough journalistic integrity to actually ask people what's going on with these actions and what's going on with ICE in Minnesota. It's. I'm very proud of Don Lemon. I think he's doing an amazing job, and I'm so happy. And he's a mutual friend of all of ours, and every now and then, he lets me say crazy stuff on his show. So I have hit it in the most platonic and friendly way. Way.
Jennifer Welch
I love. I love the caveat.
Jay Jurden
That will be the headline.
Jennifer Welch
All right. Had it or hit it? Ice.
Jay Jurden
Oh, I've had it with ice. I think that everyone should be able to make this statement. We have to abolish ICE because they aren't doing their fucking job. They are terrorizing naturalized citizens. They are terrorizing people regardless of immigration status. They are terrorizing Americans. They have an overblown budget. They are killing people. They are ripping families apart. They are holding children hostage as a way to try to get to their parents when their parents have. They are throwing elderly people out in the snow. They are attacking Native American. Could you imagine asking a Native American, when did they get here? My God, it would be funny if it wasn't so sad. So fuck ice. Ice. Always. I've had it. I've had it with ice. I mean, years ago, but fuck ice. I've had it.
Angie
Yeah.
Jennifer Welch
All right, Last one. Had it or hit it. The United States of America.
Jay Jurden
Oh, I, I love this country. James Baldwin was the person who said, I love this country. That's why I critique it. I, I love this country. I love this country. But I have had it with the direction we're headed in. Yes, we have to do something better. There has to be a full game change that's across the board. We. Y' all do such a good job of saying, I am upset not only with what's going on, but with establishment politicians for allowing us to get this place. I'm so lucky I got to vote for Zora Mandani. We get to see what someone can do when they actually have messaging and when they have help and when people vote for them and when they enact plans. Within the first two weeks.
Jennifer Welch
Weeks.
Jay Jurden
He made sure people in New York City could get child care. He's now attacking hotel junk fees, things that help everyday Americans. So I have had it with the direction we're headed in, but I am. I have to be. I'm a sucker. I'm hopeful. I'm hopeful that this will be a dip and that we will get out of it. So I've had it currently, but, but, you know, in the future, hopefully I can hit it.
Jennifer Welch
I mean, I'm with you. I vacillate. Like, oh, my God, I hate it here. But I'm like, I really love it here. Like, there's a version of America that is ours. There's a version of America where we say, it's not my business what your genitals are. It's not my business who you love. It's not my business who you make out with. This is a free country.
Jay Jurden
There's a version of America where you see a bunch of little kids in a classroom getting along and they don't have to worry that when their classmates is going to be taken by a modern day brown shirt. They don't have to worry about that. There's an America that I still have hope for. And that's. I mean, I have to hold on to that because if I fall into apathy, then I'm. I'm cooked. So I have to hold on to that.
Jennifer Welch
Jay Jordan, thank you so much.
Jay Jurden
Thank you.
Jennifer Welch
I've had it. It was so fun.
Jay Jurden
Y' all were amazing. Thank you for having me. What an honor. Oh, and Peter says hello.
Jennifer Welch
You know, I love Peter. Tell Peter I say hello back.
Jay Jurden
I will.
Jennifer Welch
And let's go. I did go to paint. Go to dinner.
Jay Jurden
Okay.
Jennifer Welch
Peter recently, and I told my friends I went to dinner with a younger gay. And the start time for the dinner was 8:30pm and I thought I was about to die. So if we do a menage a trois. D. Yeah. Or if we wait till Pumps is up here to do a double date. Yeah, the queers and the straights.
Jay Jurden
We'll go.
Jennifer Welch
We have to do an early dinner.
Jay Jurden
7:30.
Jennifer Welch
No.
Jay Jurden
Perhaps.
Angie
No, we're bumping 5:30.
Jennifer Welch
Bump it up.
Jay Jurden
5:30. We don't have blue play specials in Manhattan, but.
Jennifer Welch
Okay, we're gonna start them when I've had it. Ladies walk in, they'll be like, oh, all right.
Jay Jurden
Lunch. All right, bye, y'.
Jennifer Welch
All.
Jay Jurden
Thank you.
Angie
I love him. I love him.
Jennifer Welch
Yeah, he's great. He's so hilarious. It's so. It's so good when we have these guests because we cover on our other podcast all this Ihip news, and it's just, you know, about these white nationalists, and it feels their movement sometimes feels so much bigger than what it is because they control the airwaves and all the bots and all of that stuff. And it's a reminder when we do this podcast, I mean, there's a lot of cool in our country and a lot of cool people and a lot of funny voices and diversity. And I just, I. I just. A part of me really loves this country. I hate maga. I hate Donald Trump. I hate the grifters. I cannot stand white evangelical Christians. But God, that's. I mean, that's been a 50 year hatred of mine, so that's not new. But I love the diversity of this country. I do, too.
Jay Jurden
Too.
Jennifer Welch
And I love.
Angie
He's from Mississippi. He's queer. He's a writer, you know, smart writing. It's just. I love everything about him. Okay, I have to tell you something so funny. It occurred to me while we were watching that every time I have known you now for like 25 years, and every time you say twat, I laugh like it's the first time I've heard it. Like, I think it's so funny every time you say that. And I'm like, like, what does that say about me that it's like every time.
Jennifer Welch
Well, I know that. I love. P.S.
Angie
When you. Every time you stop laughing. It's ridiculous.
Jennifer Welch
All right, all right, you, you ignorant twat. Tell them good. Tell them when we're going to see them next, you twat.
Angie
We will see you next Tuesday and Thursday.
Jennifer Welch
I'll tell you what, I've had it with Terrence. I'm happy with that. Listen up, patriots. Gatriots and natriots. We have a new podcast that has dropped. It's called IHIP News. It's Monday through Friday. Every day, 15 to 20 minute hot takes on the political landscape of the United States of America. Always served with a side of petty grievances.
Angie
We are on all the available platforms. Apple, Spotify, Google, whatever you get your podcasts and YouTube, please go, rate, subscribe.
Jennifer Welch
And review so that we will chart upwards with America's greatest legal mind. Pumps, pumps. What does an eagle say? Caca. A little bit more enthusiasm.
Angie
Caca.
Jennifer Welch
That's it. That's. That's caca. That's the patriotism that this country needs right there.
Hosts: Jennifer Welch & Angie “Pumps” Sullivan
Guest: Jay Jurden, comedian & writer
Date: January 29, 2026
In this fiery, irreverent episode, Jennifer and Angie tackle all the things they've "had it" with — from intrusive social media ads and performative conservative women to the hypocrisy of the MAGA movement. Joined by comedian Jay Jurden, they dive deep into the culture wars, laugh about the absurdities of American politics, and skewer public figures for their duplicity. The episode is laced with biting humor, political commentary, and plenty of cathartic venting about the state of America.
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Thematic Thread:
Jay brings incisive, uproarious commentary on the normalization of extremism and the contradictions in today's political and social figures.
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"These men are submissive. The one thing they fear more than anything, they are submissive. They submit to their idealized version of masculinity, which is Donald Trump, who wakes up every morning and puts on a full face of makeup." — Jennifer [35:17]
"I don’t want to watch Jesse Waters go down on Donald Trump every night on Gut Feel. That's not... or The Five. I don’t want to watch that." — Jay [42:01]
"It's so sad that they think this is the way not only to be successful, but the way to get America. Because... women have the money. There are more women here. Women live longer." — Jay [54:18]
"I love this country. James Baldwin was the person who said it: I love this country, that’s why I critique it. I love this country. But I have had it with the direction we're headed in." — Jay [57:01]
| Timestamp | Segment | |-------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:09 | Introduction: Social Media Ad Annoyances | | 01:35 | Rant on Tech Leaders as Trump Submissives | | 04:31 | Milk, Riley Gaines, and Conservative Hypocrisy | | 13:30 | Listener Reviews; Online Courage and Cowardice | | 17:34 | Helicopter Parenting Discussed | | 21:44 | GLP-1 Weight Loss Drug & Airlines; Trump’s Body Shaming | | 25:27 | Jay Jurden's Interview Begins | | 26:10 | Comedians and Nazi Normalization | | 29:09 | DEI Nazis & Marginalized People Siding With Extremists | | 32:00 | Parody vs. Reality: Trump’s Cabinet as Comedy Gold | | 35:17 | Attack on Comedy and Hypocrisy in MAGA Masculinity | | 36:44 | Real Men and Trump’s Contradictory Image | | 40:32 | Homoerotic Trump Imagery Online; MAGA’s True "Kink" | | 42:28 | Closet Hypocrisy: Grindr, Lindsey Graham, "Ladybugs" | | 49:39 | "Had It or Hit It" Game Segment With Jay | | 57:01 | Jay on Loving and Critiquing America |
The episode is high-energy, irreverent, and unapologetically profane. Jennifer and Angie combine genuine outrage over bigotry and hypocrisy with biting sarcasm and Southern colloquialisms. Jay Jurden mirrors their style with quick wit and trenchant social critique, all grounded in a deep knowledge of culture and politics.
The hosts and guest wrap up by reaffirming their belief in an inclusive version of America, where diversity and empathy ought to triumph over hate and performative outrage. Amidst the venting and satire, there's a through-line of hope for change — with laughter as both a weapon and a balm.
For anyone who wants a mix of fierce political critique and cathartic, darkly funny conversation, this episode delivers one sharply quotable moment after another.