Poor Performance Patriots

Summary

I've Had It – "Poor Performance Patriots" (September 23, 2025)

Hosts: Jennifer Welch & Angie “Pumps” Sullivan

Special Guest/Producer: Kylie

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Episode Overview

In this episode of "I've Had It," Jennifer and Angie riff with their trademark mix of biting wit and irreverence about a breadth of modern American issues—ranging from hero-worship and manufactured masculinity, to Supreme Court disappointments, Instagram scams, generational failings, political parties, and the social climate for women in today's polarized landscape. Sprinkled with listener calls and mail, the banter skewers performative patriotism, fraudulent self-branding, and fake alpha male energy, reflecting on how these threads tie into larger political and social changes, especially in “Trump 2.0” America.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Angie’s Supreme Court Disillusionment & Instagram Shopping Struggles

• Supreme Court Loss of Credibility
  • Angie, as an attorney, laments the Supreme Court's perceived abandonment of ethical and democratic standards:

    "I've had it with them allowing our democracy to die and rubber stamping everything for Donald Trump. I've had it with that. It makes me really sad, like ridiculously sad." (02:23)

  • Jennifer is aghast intellectual elites could be radicalized:

    "...so shocked that people that have devoted that much of their time to having their heads in books can get radicalized by Fox News." (03:08)

• Relatable Instagram Scams
  • Angie admits being repeatedly duped by Instagram ads, so much so she’s put a note by her bed:

    "Everything I fall prey to on Instagram I instantly regret. It's never as advertised." (04:13)

2. Performative Masculinity: The "Hero" T-Shirt Rant

• Jennifer’s Restaurant Encounter
  • Jennifer is triggered by a man’s loud t-shirt:

    "Husband. Daddy. Protector. Hero." (06:33)

• Mocking False Heroism
  • Jennifer:

    "'Hero' is an extraordinary claim that requires extraordinary evidence...This is hero abuse. This is why there are no heroes." (07:47-08:57)

  • Angie & Jennifer agree: if you have to announce it, you probably aren't it.
  • Kylie calls current hero-talk “abusive and fraudulent.”

    "We live in a timeline where Rudy Giuliani is receiving the Presidential Medal of Honor. I think at this point, you're literally asking for the moon." (16:39)

3. Shirts with "Extraordinary Claims" & Other Branding Nonsense

• Pathological Self-Branding
  • The practice of self-labeling as "hero, protector, daddy" and its roots in insecure masculinity and MAGA-coded culture is gleefully torn apart.
  • Jennifer:

    "This is hero fraud...If you're running around in a hero shirt, that tells me you're a piece of..." (13:48)

  • Angie:

    "If you have to tell me on Instagram how much you love your spouse...the relationship is in the toilet." (13:48)

4. Generational Failings & Fake Alpha Males

• Gen X & Patriarchal Hypocrisy
  • Lamenting how Gen X has disappointed as a cohort, despite a rebel youth and inheriting freedoms fought for by boomers (50:13).
  • White men’s performance of “big boy” patriotism is seen as desperate and inauthentic.

    "The problem is not with masculinity. The problem is people don’t like bullies." (30:32)

5. Shifting Political & Gender Dynamics

• Dating Red Flags and Gender Divides

  • Jennifer breaks down poll results:

    • 76% of women see identifying as MAGA as a turnoff (28:29)
    • 55% say listening to Joe Rogan is a red flag (28:29)
    • A notable political gender divide: more women are “making a life for themselves,” increasingly rejecting traditional relationship and party roles (29:30)

  • Men’s embrace of performative “[patriot] hero” branding is interpreted as compensatory for dwindling old-school masculine authority.

• Trump Supporter Backlash

  • Reading of a listener review by a former Trump-supporting fan shows a late awakening that the podcast is unashamedly anti-Trump (27:07).

• Democratic Party Critique

  • Jennifer and Angie vent about Democratic conservatives being out of step with their progressive base, decrying party loyalty over true progress (36:09):

    "The status quo Democratic Party is trying to conserve, conserve. It's like a conservative movement that will not move forward..." (33:24+)

6. Listener Calls & Petty Grievances

• Male Cheerleaders, Hypocrisy, and Sex

  • Olivia (voicemail): Drags “straights” who object to male NFL cheerleaders while ignoring the homoeroticism of football. Jennifer:

    "Male cheerleaders—you're scared of. My God. There's no question that they are searching for masculinity in all the wrong places." (47:45)

  • The hosts lampoon MAGA outrage around mermaids, Santa Claus, and public displays of blackness or non-English speaking.

• Modern Dating Woes

  • Adriana (voicemail): "I've had it with dating Republican men...they're so triggered when you actually tell them..." (56:52)
  • Women’s dating challenges reflect the political divide: men lie about politics to get laid, and afterward it can't be taken back.
  • Angie:

    “Once you fuck a Trumper, you can’t unfuck that Trumper.” (58:52)

7. Miscellaneous: Instagram Purchases, Car Mix-up, and More

• Car Mix-Up Story: Angie nearly enters a stranger’s car (19:00), leading to an encounter with a fan—reminding both women of better, more hopeful times at the 2016 DNC.
• Rise in Witchcraft/Etsy Spells
  • People pay witches on Etsy to feel agency in a chaotic political landscape:

    "This is how desperate people are to exist in Trump’s America—that they’re going onto Etsy and having a witch cast a spell." (41:21)

• New EU Laws: Kids Suing Parents Over Photos (32:11)
• Listener Segment: Bobby's "Intrusive Thought"
  • The imagined perspective of a D.C. hotel clerk the day after January 6th:

    “I think we need a docu series about the hospitality industry on January 7.” (55:54)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Supreme Court decline:

  "They have completely said, fuck it, we’re just going to rubber stamp whatever the executive does." – Angie (04:07)

• On t-shirt heroics:

  "I think you have to have more than one heroic act. I think you have to be a consistent hero to wear hero on a t-shirt." – Jennifer (11:16)

• On MAGA masculinity:

  "If you're not standing up for bullied people and you're demeaning women and you think that you have to protect women, you're fucking as beta as it gets." – Angie (15:29)

• On Gen X disappointment:

  "Gen X gets off the hook all the time. You know, everybody browbeats the boomers...But there's also a lot of really cool boomers. Gen X needs more hate." – Jennifer (51:09)

• On male cheerleader outrage:

  "You mean to tell me you've got a whole fantasy football team...and that's not gay?" – Olivia (47:39)

• On dating Trumpers:

  “Once you fuck a Trumper, you can’t unfuck that Trumper.” – Jennifer (58:52)

• On progressive vs. party loyalty:

  "More Democrats see themselves as progressives than party loyalists...I see this current Democratic establishment as being...conservative." – Jennifer (33:24+)

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Important Timestamps

• 02:18 – Angie’s Supreme Court rant
• 04:13 – Instagram shopping regrets
• 06:33 – 10:40 – Hero t-shirt saga
• 13:09 – Consistent heroes vs. self-proclaimed
• 15:25 – Debate over “Daddy” vs. “Father” on shirts and MAGA implications
• 18:06 – Height, insecurity, and hero shirts
• 19:00 – Angie’s car mix-up story & fan encounter
• 28:29 – Red flag poll for women in dating
• 32:11 – Legal news: Teens suing parents for old photos
• 36:05 – Critique of centrist Democrats
• 41:20 – Rise in Etsy witch spell purchases
• 47:45 – Olivia’s call and male cheerleader rage
• 55:21 – Bobby’s January 7th hotel clerk musing
• 56:52 – Adriana’s real talk on dating Republican men
• 58:52 – "You can’t unfuck a Trumper" monologue

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Tone and Style

Sharp, sardonic, and woman-centric, Jennifer and Angie hack away at cultural nonsense, embracing gallows humor and blunt honesty but always circling back to values of inclusion, conviction, and standing up against hypocrisy and regression.

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For New Listeners

If you haven’t heard this episode, expect a raucous deconstruction of modern American absurdities—hero fraud, MAGA insecurity, and performative masculinity—paired with real, lived frustrations about political and social backsliding. It's a cathartic, if laugh-out-loud, evisceration of nonsense and a celebration of collective grievances.

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Transcript

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[Jennifer Welch]

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[Angie Hbic]

Ready? 1, 2, 3.

[Jennifer Welch]

Patriots, gatriots, the Black Trio, Brown Trio, and the people who don't support them can fuck off. Oh, that's a good one. Pumps.

[Angie Hbic]

Well, that clap was pedestrian.

[Jennifer Welch]

The clap was a little lackluster, little limp dickish. But you know, at your advanced age.

[Angie Hbic]

We'Re just happy I could get two hands together over my head.

[Jennifer Welch]

Pumps, what's been going on? What have you had it with?

[Angie Hbic]

Okay, what I've had it with, it's two things. One's really serious and one is just me being stupid. I've had it with the Supreme Court because as an attorney, that is where, you know, they are above reproach. They are the most ethical, the most concerned about policy and I feel betrayed. Like on a personal level, which is stupid. But I've had it with them allowing our democracy to die and rubber stamping everything for Donald Trump. I've had it with that. It makes me really sad, like ridiculously sad. Like a foreboding. We're losing the United States of American democracy. Yes. But then on a personal level, I just feel kind of hurt about it, which is kind of stupid.

[Jennifer Welch]

On a personal level for me. I'm just so shocked that people that have devoted that much of their time to having their heads in books can get radicalized by Fox News.

[Angie Hbic]

True.

[Jennifer Welch]

You know what I mean?

[Angie Hbic]

True. Valid.

[Jennifer Welch]

Like you study and you do all of these things to have intellectual autonomy and then you start watching Fox and then you just, you end up just being a dipshit like everybody else. There's nothing exceptional about you other than you fall prey to conspiracy and wanting to control other people, which is just so toxic and codependent. Instead of progressing forward, it's this regressive court that is taking us backwards. Because they're religious and psycho and trafficking conspiracy theories. Misery loves company. So they're going to make us all go down with them. And it's just so disappointing that at some point they, they capitulated their intellectual autonomy to just such low hanging fruit.

[Angie Hbic]

Yeah. And a whole branch of government, I mean, they've taken down a whole branch. One of the checks on the executive branch and the legislative branch was the judiciary. And they have completely said, fuck it, we're just going to rubber stamp whatever the executive does. Just. It's really disheartening. My other habit is I've had it with myself buying shit off Instagram. I've had it. I wrote down and put a note by my bed where my phone charges that says, do not buy anything off Instagram. Because everything I fall prey to on Instagram I instantly regret. It's never as advertised. And I'm just. This continues to be a problem for me. So I'm really going to try to stop doing it because I just, I just fall ahead over heels every time with the stupid shit.

[Jennifer Welch]

So the note that you, that you put next to your bed, do you have exclamation points or is it cap lock?

[Angie Hbic]

No, it's just, it's all in caps.

[Jennifer Welch]

But all caps.

[Angie Hbic]

I generally write in all caps. Yeah, it just says do not buy anything off Instagram.

[Jennifer Welch]

And the note that you put there is. Is that because you think you might forget?

[Angie Hbic]

I always forget. This is not the first time I've fallen prey to an Instagram bullshit.

[Jennifer Welch]

This is.

[Angie Hbic]

You know, I was really. Here's what happened. I had this false sense of security because there was that lotion or oil they were advertising, and it was like this woman that makes me look like young and fresh skin wise. And then she used this oil and. And then they show another picture of her, and she looks completely differently. So I Google it and I think, that cannot be true. Like, it just cannot be true. So I Google it and it says, in fact, it's AI. So I just thought, hmm, you've. You figured out how to get away from the scam on Instagram. You've made it. You've overcome this.

[Jennifer Welch]

If there were a product that could do what that those images show showed, it would be a scientific discovery. That would be breaking news.

[Angie Hbic]

That's what I thought. That's what I was like, if you.

[Jennifer Welch]

Could crack the case.

[Angie Hbic]

I cracked the case because I was like, if this looks so good, every single person on planet Earth would know about it and be using it. So I've had it with myself. I've made a note. I'll keep everybody updated on my progress. Hopefully it won't be like the vaping, stopping the vaping, which has failed miserably.

[Jennifer Welch]

Okay, let me. I have to pull up my notes on this. So let me tell you what I've had it with. I've had it with people that wear shirts with words that make an extraordinary claim. And let me give you an example. This past weekend, my husband and I drove to Norman, Oklahoma, to take our son, who was in law school. What they're studying now, with the rule of law upside down, is beyond me, but I digress. So we take he and his girlfriend to this pasta shop in Norman, Oklahoma, near the University of Oklahoma. And we're sitting there, and this family of four walks in. Okay, I just want to note, just so y' all can visualize, the wife was about 4 inches taller than the husband. No disrespect to couples that have a taller broad than. Dude, I'm all for that. And then they had two little kids, probably late elementary school age. And the dad's shirt said, husband, daddy, protector, hero. So I immediately alert my fellow diners, which is my husband and Dylan and his girlfriend Sydney. And I'm like, okay, let me just. The shirt claims husband can verify.

[Angie Hbic]

Right.

[Jennifer Welch]

Daddy can verify, protector. That's a claim hero.

[Angie Hbic]

Yeah.

[Jennifer Welch]

That is an extraordinary claim that requires extraordinary evidence. So I'm at the stage in Trump 2.0 where I kind of want to go up to the table Just kind of tap his finger and say, hey, how you doing? The hero part of your shirt, like, what did you save, right? Who did you stand up for? Did you stand up to a bully? What's going on with the hero? I can see the other part, protector, subjective. But the hero part, that needs to be objectively true to call yourself a hero. Put it on a shirt, put the shirt on and then go out in public. This is fraud. This is hero abuse. This is why there are no heroes, right? Because this man, who's five inches shorter than his wife, is strolling in claiming that he's a hero. And I want evidence on the back of the shirt. Maybe we add receipts to it, okay.

[Angie Hbic]

You know, like, saved house fire.

[Jennifer Welch]

Yeah, yeah. Climbed up a tree and saved a kitten. Brought it back down, nursed it on my very own teat. You know, I, I need the receipts to this. And I'm just like, is this what we're doing now in Trump's America? He says, you know, we're in the golden age and America was a dead country. Now it's the hottest country in the world. Everybody's saying it. So you can make extraordinary claims. Joe Rogan, and all of them are now claiming climate change isn't real and vaccines don't work. And so then this, this trickle down pathological lying is now in Norman, Oklahoma, and we've got some dude willfully choosing to parade around town in public with a shirt that claims that he's a hero. I'm calling bullshit on it. This is hero fraud. I guarantee you that. This I guarantee you. And I'm not a fighter, like physical fighter, more of a verbal fighter. But if I were to fight this guy, I guarantee you I could have kicked his ass.

[Angie Hbic]

You think you could take him?

[Jennifer Welch]

I, I do. I kind of think I could take him. I, I kind of think I could get scrappy with it.

[Angie Hbic]

We know that if he's got hero and protector on his shirt, he's probably a. I mean, that seems like a complete red flag. Hey, I'm a so. And then to spare my feelings, they had to get me the shot.

[Jennifer Welch]

I want to, I want to talk about this, too. How do we jump from the shirts insinuating that this is like a perfect chronological progression as to what happens if you're a husband and you're. Then you're a daddy, and then if you're a daddy, then you're a protector, and then if you're a protector, you're a hero. And I just disagree with the premise entirely. And we Sat around and talked about it for, you know, five or 10 minutes. And Josh was like, you know, I agree. I think, you know, we need more information about if you're going to parade around on a Sunday night in a pasta shop in Norman, Oklahoma, claiming that you're a hero. Here's the mic, big boy. Let's talk about it.

[Angie Hbic]

What'd you do?

[Jennifer Welch]

What have you done? That's heroic?

[Angie Hbic]

Yeah. No, I think that's a great point. And I love. That's where we are in Trump's 2.0 that you said, I've gotten here now. This is Trump 2.0. I'm just gonna go ask. And I think that's where everybody is. I mean, I want to know. We're just lied to constantly. So it's like, I need some facts to back this up.

[Jennifer Welch]

I want to know what he has done that is heroic. And I'm going to say this one heroic act doesn't equate to wearing a hero T shirt. I think you have to have more than one heroic act. I think you have to be a consistent hero to wear hero on a T shirt.

[Angie Hbic]

Okay, so you're saying you can't do one hero move in isolation. It has to be right.

[Jennifer Welch]

And then a hero for life. You have to be. You have to be a Stan hero. It has to be consistent, heroic action to wear that on a shirt. And for the public, for me to believe this clear, pathological, grandstanding lie, I need evidence. And it can't just be one isolated incident that one day, you know, there was a little old lady and she couldn't get her groceries in the house, and so you went and carried them all in and unpacked them for and then left. That's not. I'm not going with that.

[Angie Hbic]

Okay, that's an interesting point, because then you have to. When you qualify, you could say, hero saved a cat from a tree, Right?

[Jennifer Welch]

And that's just. That's one.

[Angie Hbic]

That's one.

[Jennifer Welch]

And I would just say that's being a person. I don't know that that's hero.

[Angie Hbic]

That's what I'm saying. So then you qualify. Is it a hero to help an old lady in with her grocery, or is that the right thing to do?

[Jennifer Welch]

That's what I'm talking about.

[Angie Hbic]

I feel for me, like heroes are. They save your life, firefighters, they pull you out.

[Jennifer Welch]

For me, a hero is like Pedro Pasquale.

[Angie Hbic]

Absolutely.

[Jennifer Welch]

He is so heroic all day, every day. Because the lowest hanging fruit that MAGA goes after are trans people. And he consistently and Constantly stands up and doesn't give a what anybody thinks about it. And he, like, goes hard in the paint for them. And to me, he's consistently heroic.

[Angie Hbic]

Yeah.

[Jennifer Welch]

But interestingly, I don't believe that Pedro Pascual would wear. Or Pascal Pascual. I don't know.

[Angie Hbic]

I don't believe that he would wear.

[Jennifer Welch]

A shirt where he self identified is a hero. I don't know that these two things live together. Pumps.

[Angie Hbic]

I think you're 100% right.

[Jennifer Welch]

So this is something that we need to add to the permanent record and we need to add to the agenda of all of the Patriots. Gay Trio, the Trio, Black Trio, Brown Trio. Is this hero abuse? Does a true hero wear a T shirt wherein they identify as a hero and just masquerade around town with it on?

[Angie Hbic]

I think the answer to that is no. I think that if you're having. I think it goes along with everything else. We always say, if you have to tell me on Instagram how much you love your spouse and how great your relationship is, I immediately know you're around, she's around, and the relationship is in the toilet. That's what that tells me. If you're right. Running around in a hero shirt, that tells me you're a piece of.

[Jennifer Welch]

And a.

[Angie Hbic]

And a.

[Jennifer Welch]

So this is what I think, because I really got a gander at him. He got up into the restroom and I did. I mean, a classic Jennifer Welch. I mean, up, down, back, up and down, the whole thing. And here's where my brain took me. Okay. That I could probably walk up to him and take my finger and go, I think this hero stuff is bad bullshit. I think you're a liar. I don't think he would have stood up for himself. I don't. I don't think he would have defended the premise of the shirt. Those are. That's. Those are the vibes I got from him. Of course, all of this was the fantasy, right? You think about. Of course I would never do it. He must wear hero shirts. Free country. But I just. I.

[Angie Hbic]

For now.

[Jennifer Welch]

For now. But I just think that this is. This is a part. A symptom of this hyper masculinity. Agree that these men are trying to prove that they're so butch and they're so masculine that now we're wearing. You know, Furthermore, I just want to go to this, like, calling yourself daddy and then two slots down from that hero is kind of gay. You think the daddy thing, Kylie, isn't that gay?

[Kylie]

Daddy's very gay.

[Jennifer Welch]

Yeah. Why not, Father?

[Angie Hbic]

Why doesn't it say father, father versus daddy? Well, because I think it's all the MAGA coded stuff. I mean, I'm 100%. He's a Trumper for sure. I think it's that. I think you nailed it when you said it's the hyper masculine. I'm such a big boy. I'm a protector and a hero. When really, if you're not standing up for bullied people and you're demeaning women and you think that you have to protect women, you're fucking as beta as it gets.

[Jennifer Welch]

What if I came in here with his shirt on that said, wife, mommy, protector, heroin? I mean, it's just. It's so fucking stupid.

[Angie Hbic]

It's so stupid.

[Jennifer Welch]

And you see these shirts with words at their worst in the United States of America, particularly in the Bible Belt, they just get really crazy. And don't even get me started on Mama Bear.

[Angie Hbic]

Oh, yeah, we've browbeat Mama Bear a lot.

[Jennifer Welch]

All right, welcome to. I've had it. Not all heroes wear capes.

[Angie Hbic]

Not all pussies are heroes.

[Jennifer Welch]

I'm Jennifer.

[Angie Hbic]

I'm Angie Hbic.

[Jennifer Welch]

Kylie. What do you think about that? What do you think?

[Angie Hbic]

There's.

[Jennifer Welch]

I think there's hero abuse and fraud going on. I think it's abusive and fraudulent.

[Kylie]

Jennifer, we live in a timeline where Rudy Giuliani is receiving the Presidential Medal of Honor. I think at this point, you're literally asking. Asking for the moon.

[Angie Hbic]

Right. You're asking for basic core principles and. And we can't even.

[Kylie]

Stolen valor is just the norm now. Trump is posting himself in, you know, army gear every day.

[Angie Hbic]

Yeah.

[Kylie]

So hero has lost all its meaning.

[Jennifer Welch]

There's just. And a lot of this fraud, a lot of this fraudulent activity seems to be going on with men. They're the ones who seem to really be. When I'm in the airport, and that's where I'm around the most people at one time when I'm traveling and I see the men that have to wear these shirts that define their patriotic level, their militaristic inclinations, their love of the American flag and bald eagles and lions and all this other weird. It's the men. I rarely see women that have on, like, the patriot shit going on or claiming that they're heroes. I mean, because that's an extraordinary claim that requires extraordinary evidence. And no disrespect to short men. I mean, none. But this guy was 5 foot, 4 inches.

[Angie Hbic]

You could have taken him for sure. You know what?

[Jennifer Welch]

You know what I mean? It's just like.

[Angie Hbic]

But don't you think that's probably part of the reason why he had on the hero? Somebody had to tell him he was a hero because he's Napoleon.

[Jennifer Welch]

Yeah. All right, Kylie. What? What's going on? Besides this? That just really had me riled up. Oh, my gosh.

[Angie Hbic]

I'm riled up just thinking about it.

[Jennifer Welch]

Yeah. I mean, keep an eye out for it.

[Angie Hbic]

I have not seen anything like that.

[Jennifer Welch]

Yeah.

[Angie Hbic]

Are you going to tell them about the story at the Pack and Chip?

[Jennifer Welch]

We just had. Oh, my God. Okay, so listener, y' all know we have this other podcast called I hip News that comes out two to three times a day. 10 to 15 minute news hits wherever you get your podcasts, like, and subscribe. So we film those and then pumps and I like to go to an early lunch and when I say early, I'm saying like 10am so we go eat because we start filming really early. And we're waiting for the restaurant to open, so we're trying to think of errands we need to run. So we have to go to the pack and ship because pumps has to mail back the aforementioned Instagram purchase. Detrimental purchase.

[Angie Hbic]

Right.

[Jennifer Welch]

So I wait in the car and she runs in and I'm kind of looking at my phone and all of a sudden I hear this scream. And I look over and there's a car parked next to Pumps car. And she is trying to get in this car. And there's a person in the driver's seat and she's just like barreling into the car. And there is a pregnant woman sitting there that has this crazy woman.

[Angie Hbic]

Yeah.

[Jennifer Welch]

Trying to barrel in. And this car that she's trying to get into is two times the size of Pumps cars. So it's black. It was the same.

[Angie Hbic]

It was black. So I wasn't paying attention and I just barreled right in and it scared the shit out of me. And it's. We both go. Like, I was so scared, I screamed. I mean, I was scared. My heart raced for like, I thought.

[Jennifer Welch]

Somebody was getting abducted or ice was coming or something. I mean, it was a big scream.

[Angie Hbic]

So this poor woman, I had to apologize. Of course. She was gracious and sweet and said she liked I hypnos, which we know. She's cool now.

[Jennifer Welch]

Yeah. She rolled down the window because I. I bend over dying, laughing. I'm in the passenger seat right next to her driver's seat. And so I bend over and I'm like banging my head on the dashboard. I'm laughing so hard at pumps doing this. And she's like rolling down the window and she's like, by the way, love your podcast. I got my mother in Argentina listening to it. Keep fighting the good fight. She was cool and she had seen us on a flight. Yeah, to Chicago when we went to the dnc. Back when it was somewhat hopeful being an American before all the hero fraud.

[Angie Hbic]

I think about how, how really hopeful and optimistic I was then.

[Jennifer Welch]

Yeah, it was really fun. Pumps. It was. We had such a good time at the dance.

[Angie Hbic]

Oh, we had such a great time, you guys.

[Jennifer Welch]

We thought we were just, we were at the dnc. We would like be walking. We'd see like, oh my God, there's this, there's that person. It was so fun.

[Angie Hbic]

It was so fun. It was so positive. You felt good about America. Boy pissed in our cereal.

[Jennifer Welch]

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[Angie Hbic]

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[Jennifer Welch]

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[Angie Hbic]

I feel the same way about my dogs and that's why I want to take the very best care of them and I don't want financial concerns to inhibit what's best for their health.

[Jennifer Welch]

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[Kylie]

Okay, I've got some reviews. Okay, I'm going to start with a five star for the Beaver from McAddy and she says, brava, ladies, but this one's for the beef. Our stories are strikingly similar and I'm so glad we both escaped our marriages and magical thinking. I have had it with friends and family staying in horrible marriages because of money and not wanting to affect their WASPy lifestyle. Perhaps we become Pied Pipers and lure more beavers into a better life and true happiness. What could be better than all the asexual beavers coming together.

[Jennifer Welch]

Oh, my gosh.

[Angie Hbic]

I love this.

[Jennifer Welch]

It's a great idea.

[Angie Hbic]

And you think your story. You people can't relate. So it makes me feel good that somebody can relate and has the exact same thing.

[Jennifer Welch]

Yeah. Yeah, I think so. Pumps and I were just talking about this at lunch right after she tried to carjack the pregnant woman moment. We were talking about it. That tell what you said. Like this is the first time in your life you've been able to kind of like be you.

[Angie Hbic]

Yeah. I mean it's just because there was always a certain expectation and I always lived up to the expectation and I just.

[Jennifer Welch]

What others wanted you to be.

[Angie Hbic]

Right. What the expectation started with my mother. Then I would say it probably went in societally and all of that, but. But now I'm at the point in my life that I don't have to pretend and I don't have to reconcile what somebody else thinks is best for me with what I think is best for me and that I can take what I want out of a situation and leave it and just. I don't feel like the expectations. That was a script for my life. I don't have to follow that.

[Jennifer Welch]

I love that for you. Yeah, I do. Okay, Kylie next.

[Kylie]

Okay. I've got a one star title. We love Trump from a. Hirsch and they write used to be funny. But as a Trump supporter I will no longer listen. Get over it. He is your president.

[Jennifer Welch]

Okay, so here's my thing. We've been bashing Trump. Next month is our three year anniversary. I think for. I think it started pretty early in the podcast. Is this person saying they just now caught on that were anti Trump and that said Wednesday they just left. That is Kylie. Am I. It was the timeline correct there?

[Kylie]

Yes. That's why it stood out to me. I wish I could respond to some reviews.

[Angie Hbic]

Oh, you were still here this whole time? You just. Wednesday just.

[Jennifer Welch]

I guess for some people they. It takes a while. Like maybe the. Just the willful denial. No, these ladies with these, you know, with this normie looking affect and southern accents live in a red state, a Bible belt state. That can't be right. So they just keep signing up for more and more.

[Angie Hbic]

I misunderstood.

[Jennifer Welch]

I have some things I'd like to report on this I found really fascinating. I think pumps will think this is too. All right. The majority of women find it's a turn off if partner listens to Joe Rogan podcast.

[Angie Hbic]

Surprises me zero.

[Jennifer Welch]

So here's the list right here. Red flags and a partner and so the people who took the poll were asked the following. Do you consider each of the following behaviors of traits a green, beige or red flag in a partner? Women, 76% say that men that identify as MAGA MAGA Republicans is a turnoff. 66% of men that have no hobbies, it's a turn off. 60% men that say all lives matter, women don't like that. Men that say there are only 2 genders, 58% of women want no part. Of men that say they are so unbothered they never ask for details. 58% men that identify as a communist, 55% don't like that. And then 55% of women think it's a turn off if a man listens to Joe Rogan. Few more, couple more. 54% of women don't like it if men identify as a conservative. And then half of the women are turned off if men say they don't care about politics. So this gender divide, you guys, is getting more and more and more massive. And at the same time that women are making a lie for themselves. Even women your age are saying, I was told that I had to be a certain way and I'm not doing it anymore. The liberation at any age that a woman can experience because of the good fight that the women before us put up, the suffragettes, the civil rights movement, et cetera, other female politicians that have really fought this fight and they're not liking men as much.

[Angie Hbic]

Yeah.

[Jennifer Welch]

And men can't control them. And then the data is just showing that. And this is why you have a political party where their surrogates talk about there only being one vote per household and the man doing that.

[Angie Hbic]

Yes. And why men are crying around and wearing hero on their shirt because they, they feel the inadequacy. And, and they, it has to be a female's fault. Has to be, can't be their fault. They have to put their gun, whatever their MAGA coated merch on and be a patriot. But you hear all the time, you know, we have a masculinity problem. Da da, da. The problem is not with masculinity. The problem is people don't like bullies. People like people that include everybody. They're not so divisive. And they, white men particularly have thought that it's my world, everybody else is just living in it. And now they're at a point where that is no longer the case. And they don't like it.

[Jennifer Welch]

Yeah, I, and I think it's like I don't like fake alpha males. It's just you can smell it a mile away. And so the, the indicators that this person struggles with their masculinity are the things mentioned here.

[Angie Hbic]

Yeah.

[Jennifer Welch]

Listening to Joe Rogan wearing big boy shirts, you know, identifying as a conservative, et cetera. Because a true alpha male is back to like, Pedro Pascual, who's like, I'm going to fight for everybody because it's all fun and games. White ladies, you can sit here and judge other people's kids and all of this stuff, but until your kid or your grand or your grandchild has an issue that is judged and targeted by this movement, you'll be grateful for the people that had moral clarity in this moment and that were truly heroic in voting outside of their economic interest for the betterment of society.

[Angie Hbic]

I completely agree.

[Jennifer Welch]

All right, next up, teenagers can now sue parents over childhood photos once they turn 14. In Germany and Austria, new legal frameworks are giving teenagers more control over their digital identities once they turn 14. Minors in both countries can now legally sue their parents for publishing childhood photos without their consent. These laws are based on the principle of image rights and personal data protection under the EU privacy regulations. So I think what this is going after, obviously, like, if you have a good, healthy relationship with your parents and your mom puts up, you know, you're five, Merry Christmas or Happy birthday to my little. And then the kid turns 14, it's like, I wish you would take that down. That embarrasses me. A normal parent may. Yes, I'll take it down. I think what they're talking about here are these family influencers that are putting their kids to work at a very young age. You know, popping out eight counts.

[Angie Hbic]

Yeah.

[Jennifer Welch]

Twerking with their kids on these accounts. That's what I think this is probably targeting, don't you?

[Angie Hbic]

Yes. And their parenting style and all that. Like, they're making the trad wives. The trad wives. They're making a ton of money off the Instagram and the kids. So that's what I thought it was, too.

[Jennifer Welch]

All right, this is a very important article. More Democrats see themselves as progressives than party loyalists, per the new poll. A new NBC News Decision Desk poll shows that a majority of Democrats identify more with the progressive movement than with the Democratic Party itself. The survey conducted with SurveyMonkey between August 13 and September 1, 2025 asked Democrats whether they considered themselves more support supportive of the progressive movement or the Democratic Party. 54% said they were in line with the progressive move movement, while 46% said they lean more towards supporting the party. So this is what I wish the Democratic establishment would get into their head the way I view them right now. And I was always a toe the party line kind of girl. Like, I voted for Hillary, I voted for Joe Biden, I voted for Kamala Obama twice before that. Not, you know, John Kerry and on and on. And I understood that the people, like when Obama first ran, he was not outwardly for gay marriage, but I was. But I understood that you had to build, build coalitions in order to get what you wanted. What I see this current Democratic establishment as being pumps is conservative. They are trying to preserve and conserve the policies where we lost in 2016 and 2024 to a idiot. They are still trotting out the same shit and we lost to a fucking idiot. The status quo Democratic Party is trying to conserve, conserve. It's like a conservative movement that will not move forward despite Bernie Sanders has not changed his messaging at all. And I went from voting for Hillary in the primary in 2016 to now regretting that vote and wishing I would have had the courage to have thought outside the box and voted for Bernie in 2016. And he was right, his messaging was right. And I, I don't want to diminish Hillary Clinton and her accomplishments, but my vote was wrong in 2016. I voted for the wrong person in that primary. And right now you've got a bunch of these Democratic establishment people that just, they're too beholden to corporations and aipac, the Israel lobby to step outside of this and save our country. It should be a slam dunk to dismantle this fascist shit every day and control the news cycle. But they still don't do it.

[Angie Hbic]

No. And they also, what my frustration right now is, it's not listening to your base. If your base tells you like we sit around on IHOP news, talk about the town halls. Like MAGA can't go have town halls in their districts because they get destroyed because their constituents are mad. But they continue to come back to D.C. and they vote for Magashet because they're more scared of Donald Trump and care more about what he thinks than in their political futures than they care about their constituents. And I feel like for example, the Israel Gaza issue, we're talking a single digit support and overwhelmingly they're still supporting it. Like your base supports that at 8% or 7% less than 10, but you're still all guns blazing for it. And I just think that's this and maybe that's politics, but that is what I see. Like if you're not Listening to your constituents. That is New York City. If you're not going to listen to the results of a primary, how can you effectively tell us you're going to govern what your constituents want? You can't.

[Jennifer Welch]

Well, because they are. They are completely beholden to these lobbies. And when you take money, you give up some of your conviction. It's not like they're taking money and then telling the lobbyists, look, I'm still an independent person. Thank you for donating to my campaign, but I'm independent. And the fact that you have so many independent Democrats that don't align with human rights groups from Israel, Israeli human rights groups that say that this is a genocide and you can't address it and you can't talk about it. And it's a layup right now. It is a layup for Democrats to go barnstorm the country and say, MAGA is a party that is Israel and Child Sex Protector first. That's what MAGA is. Moses. Mike Johnson chose not to release the Epstein files because he wants to protect pedophiles. That is his number one job. And what. Where did he go? What did he do? He packed up his toys and ran to Israel. They're going to continue to forget about you, but the Democratic Party is not going to forget about you any longer. We hear you. We are not taking this money anymore. We are going to fight fascism full tilt. Get Chuck Schumer. Get. Get all of every Democrat united in this. The grassroots donations would be comparable to that of these corporations. And people are constantly forgetting that they still have power. And we have to continually remind them and apply pressure to these Democratic establishment candidates. We don't like it. We don't like that you're beholden to corporation. It makes me sick. It makes me think that. That everything comes out of your mouth is bullshit because you're not a credible messenger. You are not a credible messenger. Hakeem Jeffries. When Zoron Mamdani won your district and you refuse. Refuse to endorse him, it is beyond the pale. And Zoron can get Trump voters to vote for him. He got all of this ground support, all of these grassroots donations, on and on and on and on again. But the Democrats are beholden to the same lobbyists that funded Donald Trump and is now dismantling our democracy. So, I mean, I just. I think that people are more progressive now because centrist policies have failed us. They failed the working class.

[Angie Hbic]

Absolutely agree. Failed everybody on both sides.

[Jennifer Welch]

Okay. Keeping that in mind, I found this online. So everything that We've talked about this is really, really, really important. Put this up. More and more people are buying spells from witches on Etsy. Here's what it says about our collective state of mind. Etsy has evolved into the go to site for spell casting services. And although Etsy banned the sale of such services in 2015, spells can still be purchased on the platform under quote entertainment services. It's a little reach around, if you will. The Etsy witch is the largest iteration of people looking for assistance from the divine in a period of unrest. And the article goes on to say the recent actions of the Trump administration have caused a shift in what clients are looking for from spiritual practitioners. Immigration rates have resulted in an increased demand for protection spells, says t owner of Spellbound by Tea, a shop that provides candle services and spiritual readings on Etsy. In conjunction, spells related to housing and unemployment, as well as court cases and legal proceedings have been on the rise. You guys, this is how desperate people are to exist in Trump's America, that they're going onto Etsy and having a witch cast a spell.

[Angie Hbic]

Yeah. I mean, that's where we are.

[Jennifer Welch]

That's where we are. That's how desperate. That's how unheard these people are. That's how unseen these people are that they're on the Internet, going to Etsy, hiring a witch.

[Angie Hbic]

Yeah, Sad. Or they're going to church. Same difference.

[Jennifer Welch]

All right, Kylie.

[Kylie]

Yes. We've got some voice memos today.

[Jennifer Welch]

Let me ask you this before we do. Voice memos.

[Kylie]

Yes.

[Jennifer Welch]

Would you buy a witch a spell from a witch?

[Kylie]

I think if I did it, it would just be for fun. I have issue believing in any kind of magical, spiritual thinking palms here as a joke.

[Jennifer Welch]

It's like a. Haha.

[Angie Hbic]

Yeah, I would, I mean, I wouldn't think anything about it. Like, I like to get my tarot cards read or my palm. You know, I'm kind of just for fun. Do I think it's gonna work? If I thought it would work, would I buy it? Yeah. But no, I, I mean, I'm just kind of like.

[Jennifer Welch]

It makes me, it makes me sad though. It is that, that people, that there's such an increase in that and that people feel so unseen and so unheard. And then you have, you know, the, the mayoral race in New York, we always default to that. But where he won, he won the Democratic primary and the Democrats are still ostracizing him. And that just makes me sick because who's fighting for these people that are wasting their money on Etsy with magical thinking and a curse. But they need to believe in something, right?

[Angie Hbic]

Believing in something is powerful. It is.

[Jennifer Welch]

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[Angie Hbic]

Written.

[Jennifer Welch]

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[Angie Hbic]

Everybody's talking about it.

[Jennifer Welch]

Everybody's talking about it. It took us one day to write it because we're on day one because.

[Angie Hbic]

We took a cognitive test and it was book write done.

[Jennifer Welch]

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[Angie Hbic]

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[Jennifer Welch]

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[Angie Hbic]

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[Kylie]

Okay, we've got some voicemails today. Up first is Olivia.

[Olivia]

Hi, this is Olivia from the boot hill of Missouri. Just another blue dot in a red state. I've absolutely had it with all of the people on Facebook, Instagram, Tick tock bitching about there being male cheerleaders now on the NFL. Like, oh, here they come pushing the agenda again. And it's always straight CIS white men. Like they're not watching men tackle each other, showering together after the game and slapping each other's asses on the field, baby. You mean to tell me you've got a whole fantasy football team about a dude that you're willing to bet money on and that's not gay?

[Angie Hbic]

Okay.

[Olivia]

Anyways, I've had it. Love you guys. Bye.

[Jennifer Welch]

This is just another thing that these MAGA men are scared of. And the list grows by the day. Drag queens reading books. Oh, my God. Trigger city. Mark Zuckerberg goes on Joe Rogan. Men have just felt neutered, you fucking pussy. I mean, it's now male cheerleaders you're scared of. My God. There's no question that they are searching for masculinity.

[Angie Hbic]

Yes.

[Jennifer Welch]

In all the wrong places. I just have to remind everybody all the time that Grindr crashed twice at the Republican National Convention. Twice. That's how much gay seeking activity there was at the Republican National Convention.

[Angie Hbic]

Can you imagine how? I mean, no wonder these people are so angry and mean because they're mad about everything. They're mad about male cheerleaders. Give me a fucking break. Like, really?

[Jennifer Welch]

Well, a black mermaid, a lot of that. So mad. Santa Claus, the list of shit that triggers these people. People speaking Spanish.

[Angie Hbic]

You're right.

[Jennifer Welch]

Being black in America, you know, they're just, it's un. Unbelievable. And white. White men are the worst at this. And then white people in general, like when we tell friends like, oh yeah, I'm going to New York. Oh my God, be careful. And I'm like, please. I mean, come on.

[Angie Hbic]

Yeah, I just, it's, it's a sad state of affairs. It's women in our demographic. Are we in the same one? I know I'm a little bit older.

[Jennifer Welch]

But I think you're a boomer. I'm a genetic.

[Angie Hbic]

No, I'm not a boomer. I know I'm not a boomer. But like our demographic of women are the worst offenders. The worst. If you look at all the graphs, it's like the 45 to 55 or.

[Jennifer Welch]

Whatever, gen X has been profoundly disappointing.

[Angie Hbic]

Profoundly disappointed.

[Jennifer Welch]

We were such badasses as kids too. We were around like, never had to come home. Like, I remember I would leave in the morning, I didn't come home until late at night. We drank water out of a. Nobody had to carry around a cup.

[Angie Hbic]

A hose.

[Jennifer Welch]

A garden hose.

[Angie Hbic]

Yeah, garden hose.

[Jennifer Welch]

Yeah, we would just gulp it right out of a garden hose. We didn't have these prissy ass Stanley cups that we had to tote around. I, you know, I had scuff marks all over my knees from crashing my pink Mongoose bike. And I managed to. Went all over the place all the time. Roller skated. Oh, I was great. Could you shoot the duck?

[Angie Hbic]

Of course I could shoot the duck.

[Jennifer Welch]

I mean, yeah, backwards skate.

[Angie Hbic]

I was never great at backwards.

[Jennifer Welch]

Excellent, excellent roller skater. And then as adults, what a disappointment Gen Xers are totally. Because they, they had the, the boomers before them. The real true hippies that fought for desegregation, fought for civil rights, human rights, for women to have credit cards, to be able. No fault divorce and all of this stuff. So they just piggybacked on the luxury of all of these things. And that's why you have all of these Gen X women that don't know shit from shinola. I mean, literally don't know never bothered nor intellectually curious enough to figure out why she can have a credit card in her own name.

[Angie Hbic]

Well, I think that's because the privilege they were raised with, the privileges that the boomers fought for, and now we just took them for granted. Now they're just going up in smoke right before our eyes.

[Jennifer Welch]

Yeah, yeah. And Gen X gets off the hook all the time. You know, everybody browbeats the boomers, and there's some shitty boomers. I mean, don't get me wrong, I mean, really shitty boomers. But there's also a lot of really cool boomers. I mean, like, really super cool boomers. On our YouTube channel, we have a lot of like, really cool, intellectual, actual boomers that fought the good fight. And Gen X needs more hate. That's our generation. I think that that that group, age group voted for Trump more than any other.

[Angie Hbic]

Yes, they did. But can you shame the shameless?

[Jennifer Welch]

That's.

[Angie Hbic]

Here's the thing. I just want to go on record of saying this. I prefer watching male cheerleaders. I think they dance better, they're strong like our NBA team. They have the dancers far and away. The male dancers are better, more entertaining. Like, I get so excited when I see them coming.

[Jennifer Welch]

I'm going to tell you, I like both, but I'm going to tell you that my youngest son, he played varsity basketball and there was a palm squad for his high school, and on the palm squad was a male. And I just want to talk about heroic and somebody being a hero in the buckle of the Bible belt with all these judgmental white Bible moms that go and vote against everybody's interest, including their own and their daughters and their sons. For this kid, when I saw him, you know, with the girls on his, on his team and, you know, popping eight counts, it made me when I see that, because I know what these MAGA people do, it makes me want to love them quadruple. Like, I have that in me when I know that somebody's being bullied by an institution, by a bunch of white, mean, judgmental Karens and their teeny weeny energy husbands that probably crash grinder every time they go out of town. And I know the they say about black people behind their backs, about gay people behind their backs, and I know the shit they would say about a boy pom pom girl boy pom pom boy, that makes me want to, like, just love those people so hard. And I don't give a who knows about it. Like, I have that conviction in me. Like, the more the Patriarchal white people demean somebody, the more I'm going harder in the pain for them.

[Angie Hbic]

I completely agree. Remember I called you? It was so. It'd been two years, two basketball seasons ago. Went to this little bitty teeny tiny town in Oklahoma, rural as fuck, and there were two male pomp dancers. And I'm with you. I'm like, that is somebody with courage.

[Jennifer Welch]

That's heroic. That is heroic in the Bible Belt listener. I mean, this shit is so judged.

[Angie Hbic]

Yes.

[Jennifer Welch]

And people are so mean. They say they love freedom, yet when somebody freely expresses themselves, they are so judgmental to them. And let me just tell you something, like Oklahoma is a million times less free than California or New York. Maybe on paper it's not. I mean, of course, the abortion rights and all that, but I'm just talking about being generally who you are. If pumps and I wanted to shave our heads and wear nipple tassels and you know, just look ridiculous, whatever, and we walk down the street in New York or la, nobody would think anything of it. It in Oklahoma it would be stage 20 meltdown. The judgment, the cruelty, the backstabbing. And particularly in groups of white females, it is so abhorrent. You hear women, when my kids were growing up, you'd hear women gossiping about fifth graders. That is just what happens in places like this. It just blows my mind that a grown ass woman can pick on a fifth grader and not feel that it happens all the time. Yeah, all the time.

[Kylie]

Okay, up next we've got Bobby.

[Bobby]

Hello, ladies. Getriot Bobby and cult member or Gaytria and cult member Bobby. I guess that's how I'd identify at this point here. And I don't have a petty grievance so much as just like a intrusive thought or observation. Can you imagine being a Hotel Clerk on January 7, 2021? You're just like doing your normal checkout and then having to guess if every person was an insurrectionist.

[Jennifer Welch]

Oh my God.

[Bobby]

And you're like, did you enjoy your stay? What'd you get up to when you were in dc? Any fun plans? That had to be absolutely insane. And I think we need like a docu series about the hospitality industry on January 7. What was that like? Anyway, hope you ladies have a good day.

[Angie Hbic]

I love that thought.

[Jennifer Welch]

That's. I haven't thought about that. But that's a great, like, you know, because there's a lot of people that just, you know, got up, went to work. These nuts are in town with all their MAGA shit. You don't fucking care. You're just trying to.

[Angie Hbic]

Right?

[Jennifer Welch]

You got to get your health insurance. You know that for sure is still going to dick you over. And then you have these nuts. Like the guy with the horns.

[Angie Hbic]

Yeah, the shaman.

[Jennifer Welch]

The shaman, yeah.

[Angie Hbic]

Imagine, like, serving breakfast, serving dinner, like, being around you would. You would say, I never had thought about that. That's a great one. It's a great, intrusive thought.

[Jennifer Welch]

Uhhuh. All right, who's next?

[Kylie]

Okay, up next, we've got Adriana.

[Adriana]

I have had it with dating Republican men. Well, I don't date them, but, like, I'm a dater, okay? And so they come up and it's. God, they're fucking. They are fucking titty babies. They're so triggered when you actually tell them. They're like, oh, you're liberal. Like, you're not gonna like someone like me. I'm like, no, probably not.

[Angie Hbic]

Why is that?

[Adriana]

Why can't you just. And then you tell them, and then they continue to try and reach out to get.

[Jennifer Welch]

Get some.

[Adriana]

And, oh, my God, they're. They're just. They're the worst. And I can't stand it. I can't stand it. They're everywhere. I'm 29, I'm single, and at this point, it's just like, every single man I meet in the wild on an app, I find out they voted for Trump, and they're gonna triple down on that decision. And then you tell them, yeah, no, that this isn't gonna work. And then they're like, you know, you were mean. You're mean to me. You just judge my morals. Oh, my God, grow a brain cell, dude.

[Jennifer Welch]

I feel really bad for these girls. And you know what? I've found out from my son's friends that are girls, men are lying to women and saying that they didn't vote for Trump, and it is complete fraud because they know that it is such a turnoff, as mentioned in this polling.

[Angie Hbic]

Yeah.

[Jennifer Welch]

And then they're having sex. Like, one of my son's friends that he graduated from Syracuse with, her name is Mary. She came to Oklahoma after they graduated. I'm hanging out with her, and she says that she was totally lied to and manipulated by this guy who faked being a liberal, said he didn't vote for Trump, blah, blah, blah. They do the deed, and. And lo and behold, he is a Trumper. The whole nine. And she's just like. And here's the problem. Like, I can't unfuck him, and I wish I could. You can't unfuck a trumper, right?

[Angie Hbic]

Yeah.

[Jennifer Welch]

I mean, once you a Trumper, you cannot unfuck that Trumper. And so that's. I feel bad for these young girls because these young guys just. They've had no leadership from their mothers, from their fathers. It's just been this complete capitulation to this bullshit. Nobody stands up for anything. Everybody's titty baby and everybody. Nobody's teaching people to stand up for what you believe in and have conviction. Like, I just feel so bad for these girls that are dating these guys that are barstool sports, Joe Rogan, you know, just that triggered over male cheerleaders and lots of people. That's the. Those are the people they have to date.

[Angie Hbic]

That's the pool. Well, I had a friend that was dating a guy. She kind of liked him, and they'd been dating kind of a while, and she found out he was maga, like four or five months into it, and she kind of liked him. Obviously that, you know, that couldn't stand.

[Jennifer Welch]

It took four months to sniff out a maga.

[Angie Hbic]

Yeah. I don't know if he was trying to act like he wasn't maga.

[Jennifer Welch]

I don't.

[Angie Hbic]

The circumstance was, is they just never talked about it. And he. Okay, it's coming back to me. They talked about. She thought he was just like a centrist. And it didn't trickle out till later that he was full blown maga. And it was so funny. Here's what happens when you date MAGA and they lie to you. She goes, you know what else? He's a terrible fucking lie.

[Jennifer Welch]

That's at the core of this.

[Angie Hbic]

Yeah.

[Jennifer Welch]

The core of this is you have a one to two pump chump.

[Angie Hbic]

Right.

[Jennifer Welch]

A gyrator, a gyrater, a quick shot. You know, I mean, you know that there is at the. You would betray being masculine for all of these faux masculine things because there's a heaping pile of poor performance inside this person.

[Angie Hbic]

Right.

[Jennifer Welch]

You know, it is pumps these guys.

[Angie Hbic]

You're right.

[Jennifer Welch]

But that's just the poor performance.

[Angie Hbic]

Yeah, that's gonna be my new code word when I. Oh, my gosh. Like, if we're sitting somewhere and we see this, I'm just gonna text poor performance.

[Jennifer Welch]

Yeah. Like that guy at the. At the pasta shop.

[Angie Hbic]

Yeah.

[Jennifer Welch]

You know, I. I did feel bad for his wife because I thought this guy thinks he's a hero. And then what if she bought him the shirt because that's how insecure he is that she had to be like, see, honey, you're a hero.

[Angie Hbic]

That's what I was thinking she's got it prop him up all the time.

[Jennifer Welch]

Because his ego daddy you're you're my so insecure. My hero daddy. And wears it out. And then I thought, you know she's gotta him. Yeah. Hopefully for her he's a quick shot.

[Angie Hbic]

100 in that situation. You want a quick shot?

[Jennifer Welch]

You want a quick shot?

[Angie Hbic]

Yeah.

[Jennifer Welch]

You don't want make it be over. All right. I think that's all we have for today's episode. It was a poor Today's episode was a poor performance sponsored by life is a lazy season of ship sandwiches. Listen up you guys. This was the hot book of the summer and now it is the cool book of the fall. The link is below in in the bio and you will not regret getting it, you will not regret reading it and it is a great way to support us and support your she rose.

[Angie Hbic]

We will see you.

[Jennifer Welch]

What if we wore shirts that said mommy protector she Ro. Alright, we have to go. We'll see Tuesday and Thursday, right?

[Angie Hbic]

I'll tell you what I've had it with.

[Jennifer Welch]

Let's hear it.

[Angie Hbic]

I've had it with that.

[Jennifer Welch]

Listen up patriots, gatriots and Natriots. We have a new podcast that has dropped. It's called I hip News. It's Monday through Friday. Every day, 15 to 20 minute hot takes on the political landscape. The United States of America always served with a side of petty grievances.

[Angie Hbic]

We are on all the available platforms. Apple, Spotify, Google, whatever you get your podcasts and YouTube.

[Jennifer Welch]

Please go rate, subscribe and review so that we will chart upwards with America's greatest legal mind. Pumps, pumps. What does an eagle say?

[Angie Hbic]

Caca.

[Jennifer Welch]

A little bit more enthusiasm. Caca. That's it. That's, that's. That's the patriotism that this country needs right there.