Scissor Point USA

Summary

Podcast Summary: I've Had It – “Scissor Point USA”

Hosts: Jennifer Welch, Angie “Pumps” Sullivan
Date: June 23, 2026
Episode Theme:
This episode delivers signature comedic, cathartic riffs from Jennifer and Angie as they air their “had it” grievances, touching on political fundraising annoyances, performative wellness, gender branding in consumer products, and the state of conservative women in American politics. The show balances biting political criticism with hilarious listener stories, pop culture snark, and just the right amount of petty.

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Episode Overview

Jennifer and Angie open by sharing what’s driving them crazy and then spiral gleefully through topics ranging from campaign text spam, slow walkers, and “man-branded” wellness, to J.D. Vance’s disastrous book reviews, the irony of anti-feminist women’s roles, and listener stories of subversive resistance. The title, “Scissor Point USA,” is a comic riff on where the hosts predict anti-feminist women like Erika Kirk may end up – with a midlife lesbian awakening.

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Main Discussion Highlights

1. Political Fundraising Spam & the Case for Campaign Reform

Timestamps: 00:21 – 04:11

• Angie’s Rant: Bemoans a deluge of campaign fundraising texts after donating to Democratic candidates, even after repeated “STOP” messages.
  • “I have to stop everyone. I hated to do it, but I stopped AOC!” (00:52, Angie)
• Jennifer’s Solution: Campaign fundraising as a symptom of America’s privatized, unregulated election funding, arguing for public funding and shorter campaign seasons.
  • “We need publicly funded campaigns where each candidate gets the same amount of money. Do not let corporations donate.” (01:41, Jennifer)
  • On perpetual political campaigning: “We’re almost in like a permanent campaign situation.” (01:54, Jennifer)
• Comparison: UK/Countries with short, regulated campaigns and less invasive fundraising.
  • “I think ours is extraordinarily like long...the public funding would just be a game changer.” (03:31, Jennifer)

2. Everyday Annoyances: Walking & Cell Phone Culture

Timestamps: 04:14 – 06:23

• Jennifer’s “Had It”: Slow walkers in NYC weaving unpredictably because they’re glued to their cell phones.
  • “There needs to be more structure on the sidewalks. A fast lane, a slow lane.” (05:15, Jennifer)
  • “I finally was just like, I’m passing you on your left. Of course her earphones were in. She had no clue.” (05:26, Jennifer)
• Pumps’s Perspective: Admits to being a distracted walker and driver, vulnerable to similar habits.
  • “I’m not a great driver to begin with...my accent’s too thick [for voice activation] and it doesn’t understand.” (06:05, Pumps)

3. Listener Feedback & Wedding Crasher Fantasy

Timestamps: 06:32 – 08:15

• Spotify Comments: Listeners enjoy the idea of performatively crashing MAGA weddings with over-the-top, flamboyant antics.
  • “Obsessed with your wedding crashing idea...get extra loud towards the end when the groom says yes...” (06:45, Listener Ray Dell)
• Hosts’ Reaction: Lean in to the satisfaction of trolling performative, Instagrammable weddings.

4. J.D. Vance’s Book Roasted & The Usha Vance Paradox

Timestamps: 08:16 – 15:39

• Book Review Highlights: J.D. Vance’s new book receives mockery; focus is on trying to convince readers his wife, Usha, is happy, ambitious, and supportive—reviewers aren’t buying it.
  • “If the book has one goal, it’s to get ahead of the rumors that he ruined Usha’s life.” (10:46, Jennifer reading reviews)
  • “She has, ‘the biggest mismatch between ambition and ability of any person I’ve ever met.’” (11:24, from review)
• Hosts’ Takes:
  • “He makes me hate him even worse. I do not believe Usha is googly eyed crazy about him.” (12:07, Pumps)
  • “Broken people pick broken people. Usha Vance promoting reading while her husband’s administration is banning books is just...the irony is like Melania’s Be Best campaign.” (14:07, Jennifer)
• Hostage Vibes: Usha’s children’s story podcast sparks speculation about her real state of mind.

5. Women in Conservative Power/Patriarchy Enablers

Timestamps: 15:41 – 21:00

• Jennifer’s Theory: Outspoken criticism of women like Usha Vance, Pam Bondi, etc., who “carry water for the patriarchy.”
  • “These women...have autonomy, they have choice. And you know, Usha Vance…I don’t know what the deal is, but I don’t think so.” (16:53, Jennifer)
• Contrast: Barbara Bush as a rare GOP spouse who publicly disagreed on major issues (pro-choice stance).
  • “Barbara Bush...famously stood up and said she was pro choice and disagreed with George Herbert Walker Bush...” (19:44, Jennifer)

6. Toxic Masculinity & “Man-Branded” Consumerism

Timestamps: 21:00 – 30:46

• RIFF: Mockery of “man cereal,” “dude wipes,” “man candles,” “man crates,” and male-insecure branding.
  • “Man cereal is just the latest example of things that exist purely to give men permission to use a normal product.” (22:55, Jennifer)
• Hosts Drag It: “It is fucking pathetic on every front that this is happening and I hope they all go bankrupt.” (24:40, Pumps)
• Wellness Rackets: IV bars, supplement fads, and the American obsession with shortcuts to fitness.
  • “Our healthcare system enables this type of non proactive style living...In America it’s all gas, gas, gas.” (26:26, Jennifer)
• Donald Trump & “Fitness” Republicans:
  • “There’s a sect of MAGA men real into fitness but...the crowds at Trump rallies...are pretty heavy. And Trump was aware—‘I wish my supporters didn’t look so trashy.’” (29:05–30:02, Jennifer)

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Listener Voice Memos & Interactive Moments

7. Virtue Signaling with Vegetables

Timestamps: 33:12 – 35:36

• Caller Danielle: As a waitress, she's had it with customers bragging about eating only vegetables—performative and annoying.
  • “Eat your vegetables and shut the fuck up.” (34:22, Danielle)
• Hosts Relate: Jennifer rants on gluten-free hypocrisy; Pumps relates to plant-based diets with “the worst gas.”

8. Resisting Right-Wing Mailers: Using The System as Protest

Timestamps: 37:26 – 39:31

• Caller Lainey: Fights back at unwanted Turning Point USA mail by stuffing envelopes and making Planned Parenthood donations in their name.
  • “This is pure brilliance. I’m so mad that I have never thought of this.” (39:31, Jennifer)

9. Midlife Lesbianism Prediction: “Scissor Point USA”

Timestamps: 41:42 – 43:22

• Jennifer’s Hot Take: Conservative anti-feminist women like Erica Kirk will face a future midlife lesbian boom.
  • “It’s gonna be Scissor Point. Scissor Point with Erica Point USA!” (41:53, Jennifer & Pumps)
• Diving into TikTok “lesbian investigation” rumors and trolling public anti-feminist women.

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10. American Brand Marketing & The “Oklahoma Standard”

Timestamps: 43:31 – 51:45

• Jackie’s Rant: Makes fun of overtly masculine grill commercials and male-targeted ads.
• Jennifer & Angie’s Take: Criticize Oklahoma’s “standard” as objectively terrible (poor education, poor social support, regressive politics).
  • “Oklahoma is an example of how not to govern, how to race to the bottom.” (46:40, Jennifer)
• Mega Churches & Supermajority Politics: How religious and political culture breed selfishness, lack of empathy, and voting against self-interest.
  • “The culture is recreational cruelty. The women I know who do this are abundantly aware, and they say, ‘I don’t care.’” (53:26, Jennifer)
  • “The women…are the most disappointing…because if it happened to you or your daughter, you could go somewhere else.” (50:19, Angie)
  • “Keeping people dumb works…for the oil and gas people, white people reign supreme, and all the rubes vote against their self interest.” (49:42, Jennifer)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “If you have to go buy something that affirms your masculinity, the foundation of your masculinity is not on strong footing.” (28:20)
• “Eat your vegetables and shut the fuck up.” (34:22, Danielle, listener voicemail)
• “It’s gonna be Scissor Point. Scissor Point with Erica Point USA!” (41:53)
• “Oklahoma is an example of how not to govern, how to race to the bottom.” (46:40)
• “The culture is recreational cruelty. The women I know who do this are abundantly aware, and they say, ‘I don’t care.’” (53:26)

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Episode Flow & Tone

The episode mixes sharp political critique, zany riffs, and deeply personal asides. The tone is irreverent, unapologetic, and includes strong language, but is always in service of truth-telling and catharsis. The hosts invite listeners to call in, share their own “had it” moments, and actively resist the problems they rail against.

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Summary for First-Time Listeners

If you haven’t heard “I’ve Had It,” this episode offers a full view into the show’s DNA: a sisterhood of uncensored kvetching, hilarious and insightful takes on politics, pop culture, and everyday annoyances, punctuated by bold predictions (“Scissor Point”), and practical subversive actions (Planned Parenthood donations in MAGA names). You’ll walk away laughing, feeling seen, and a little more ready to spark good trouble in your own life.

Transcript

[A]

So are we supposed to start the podcast?

[B]

Ready, 1, 2, 3.

[A]

Patriots, gay trots, they treats. Black trio, Brown trio, we love you. And all of the triple trumpers can do what? Pumps. All right, pumps. What have you had it with?

[B]

Okay, this has been happening for the last two weeks and I've had it,

[A]

had it, had it.

[B]

So I have donated to Democratic candidates in different states, obviously. And so I get all these text messages and I even sent you one like six months ago. It was check. Hi, it's Chuck Schumer. And I was like, I'm out. Stop. Don't text. So in my unknown texts, I'm getting literally yesterday, 40 unknown numbers texting. This has been happening day after day after day. It started with like 10 and 15. I've been doing stop, stop. Well, as I'm doing stop, I keep getting all these other texts. I hit unsubscribe, stop, whatever. Then I get a confirmation text that I've unsubscribed. But it keeps happening because we went off the air for like 10 minutes and my phone filled up with 15 more. Who is sending me all these? I mean, I hated to do it, but I stopped AOC because I was just like, I have to stop everyone.

[A]

You know, there's two issues here. Number one, the when you tell somebody you don't want to get text anymore and they confirm that they're not going to text you anymore, they're already violating your boundary. You drew. So that's number one. Number two, this is why we need publicly funded campaigns, because we have our politicians and that in order to even compete with what these Republicans are bringing in from these oligarchs who are funding fascism, they have to hit up people like us and the, you know, everyday working class American to get 20 bucks, 5 bucks, 100 bucks, and they have to get massive amounts of those to even be able to come to the table. And Zoron did this really well as he ran against all of the corporate money. And so it's really a shame that even when you look at presidential campaigns, they have to raise over a billion dollars. And furthermore, this is something that you don't know if you're an American. It's just all, you know, we're almost in like a permanent campaign situation. So I think two things need to change if we ever get Trump out. Number one, we need publicly funded campaigns where each candidate gets the same amount of money. That's it. Do not let corporations donate. Don't take money from people. Get all the, all the private, public, all of It. All of the corporate money out of it, and then we need only like a month or six weeks of campaigning. It's too long from now.

[B]

I agree.

[A]

From now until the actual midterms and how it started like a year ago, it's too much. And then I think that exacerbates a human being's desire to just tune it out and be like, I don't care.

[B]

Yeah, we're too far gone. Isn't it the UK that's 90 days. They call an election and it's 90 days later.

[A]

I don't, I don't, I don't.

[B]

I think ours is that all day long.

[A]

I think ours is extraordinarily like long. And the amount of money that has to be raised and in Europe, the actual times that people can't. Can campaign is much shorter and it's publicly funded and the public funding would just be a game changer, total game changer.

[B]

Then I wouldn't see all these ridiculous ads on my TV every five minutes.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And then it's like. And then you feel like, oh, I need to. You hear about all these corporations giving all this money and you think, okay, well, I need to give to this person because they need these small dollar donations and it's going to make a difference. And it does. It really does. But then you get, then your number gets put on a list and then they all start coming after you.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

No, it's crazy.

[A]

All right. I've had it with. Mine is non political. I have had it with walking down the street in New York.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

And there's a person in front of me that is a slow walker. Nobody on either side of them. So I'm a very fast walker. Very. So I think, okay, I'm gonna pass this person on the right. And as I start to weave, the person in front of me weaves. So I'm like, oh, okay, they're going this way too. So then I go, I'm going to go to the left and then they weave back to the left. And you know what the culprit is?

[B]

What?

[A]

Cell phone.

[B]

Oh, yeah. They're on their cell phone.

[A]

They're like, they're walking while texting or walking while scrolling, which creates a walking drunk effects person. And I can't get around them. And I just think that there needs to be more structure on the sidewalks. A fast lane, a slow lane. I don't think people that all want to walk slow together should be able to be right next to each other. I think they should be like single file doing that And I know it might be awkward for their conversation, but I can't. There was a lady today where I was like weaving and I finally was just like, I'm passing you on your left. Of course her earphones were in. She had no clue where she was, what she was doing.

[B]

You can't even say, excuse me, I'm passing on your left because they have the earphones in. So it's a huge problem. I've been a victim of it. Here's the thing, I've also been the person that's talking on their cell phone and not paying attention. And I'm sure if I weave with my car, I'm sure I weave when I walk.

[A]

You're the worst. The worst. I've never been in a car with you where you don't start. You're driving down the road and start doing with your phone. It's terrifying.

[B]

And first of all, I'm not a great driver to begin with. I mean, I'm not starting out at a 10 out of 10. And I've really tried to do better with my, like, voice activated. But as we know, so often the commands I give to my voice activation, my accent's too thick and it doesn't understand.

[A]

All right, welcome to I've had it, America's top DEI podcast. I'm Jennifer.

[B]

I'm Angie.

[A]

All right, let's check in with Kylie.

[E]

Hi.

[A]

Hello.

[D]

I've got a few reviews from comments from Spotify and this one is a response to our episode on the wedding crashing that you wanted to do.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[D]

So Ray Dell writes, obsessed with your wedding crashing idea. Here's mine. Get dressed up in pink or lavender colored suit and a super gay tie. Think rainbow, maybe small penises on it. Something like that. Then during the whole ceremony, I would cry and get extra loud towards the end when the groom says yes. And when he does, I'd walk out of the church. For context, I'm gay, Cuban, brown, and a leftist.

[B]

Yay.

[D]

And I would do this at the MAGA weddings.

[A]

Love your show. See, I knew it was like somewhat of a satisfying idea. Yeah, it's like if you see the performative wedding on Instagram, somebody acting like they're the first people to ever get married, ever to ever pick bridesmaids, to ever have a bachelorette party. All the nauseating that sometimes I. I'm like, what the is this going? This is over the top. And then I'm 25 weeks deep into something on the mother in law's page. But to be able to be like dramatic at the people who have dramatic Instagram posts about their wedding to be a guest and be incredibly dramatic. There's something about that that sounds really satisfying to me. So I want to thank the reviewer for validating that this sounds fun and fucked up and toxic and that you're in and I support it.

[B]

Yeah. And it took it to a whole nother level. Then you were like, why is he crying so hard? Is there a relationship going on? What's going. I mean, the rumors start flying that will live to the end of time.

[D]

Okay, another comment we've got is from Laura and she says, y' all are the tits.

[A]

Love it.

[D]

And then we've got Justin L. Gibson, and he says, the only way we heal as a nation is more jaunty. I've had it underscore as Jennifer tells Maga to fist themselves.

[A]

That's fun stuff. I mean, God, it's. You know this. For those of you that tune in to this Tuesday Thursday podcast that are new, this is our podcast called I've Had It. It drops Tuesday, Thursday. It's. We try not to be political, but we're of the thought that everything's political. And if we didn't mention the egregious human rights violations, the dismantling of our democracy for idiotic fascists, that it would be like, oh, well, those white ladies, you know, they don't, they don't have to talk about politics because it doesn't affect them. So we, we try to keep it a little lighter over here. But if you want hard hitting everyday news analysis where in fact I tell Maga to go fist themselves, you can subscribe to IHIP News, which are bite sized news hits that drop two to three times a day. All right, let's do this is political but bashing J.D. vance. And the reviews are in for J.D. vance's new book. Let's pop this up. The Daily Beast is reporting JD Vance humiliated as he savaged by early book reviews. Pop this up. The community reviews. One star has 93%. And then here are the comments. One star because zero isn't an option. Okay. And then it's clear to those who have already read the book that there's only one reason JD Wrote it and it's not about converting to Catholicism. Pop this up. JD Vance wrote a book to convince you his wife doesn't hate him. And then somebody writes, I got a colonoscopy on Friday. If only that were the least pleasant experience of my last week. But no, that would be when I pulled an all nighter on Monday reading Communion J.D. vance's book. These are the reviews, the book reviews. And then JD Spends a lot of time convincing the reader that Usha Vance is totally fine with the decision she's made. Let's pop this up. If the book has one goal, it's to get ahead of the rumors that he ruined Usha's life. As if ruining your wife's life isn't basically a prerequisite to becoming a world leader, hogan writes. Vance badly wants the reader to know that Usha is totally fine with her choices, namely quitting her high powered law job because of his career because she was never that ambitious to begin with. Imagine that a woman who goes to Ivy League school says she was never ambitious to begin with, hogan continued, in his exact words, she has, quote, the biggest mismatch between ambition and ability of any person I've ever met. He adds that while in law school, her dream job was creating educational programming for kids, which is a what why most people go to Yale Law School, obviously, and be suspiciously close to what she does as second lady. Vance, 41, also made it clear that Usha, 40, was happy to move to Ohio, loved his conversion to Catholicism at 35, and said that she is the one who wanted another baby after previously saying that she did not.

[B]

He's gonna have to write another book to apologize for those quotes that he put in that book. What A It makes me hate him even worse. I do not believe Usha is googly eyed crazy about him. A his choices. B I mean when she met him, first of all, his name was different. I don't know, it was like John Day and you know, now it's just JD but he's had like three names so it's a different name. It was different faith. He was a pro immigrant or pro immigration guy, wrote for the Law Review about it. That's who she married. And now she's married to a white supremacist that has its head stuck up Donald Trump's ass. Nobody likes that. Nobody wants that.

[A]

All right, so speaking of Usha, let's do a little wellness check. She started a podcast and here's the clip. Remember when the Vance family gave us another thing to make fun of them for? Last month when Usha Vance started a podcast where she's going to read to children despite the fact it seems like she's just mad or in a hostage situation. Either way, never read to children. I'm here to report that there's like five more episodes and they've only gotten worse.

[F]

So enjoy.

[C]

Hello and welcome to Story Time with the Second Lady. My name is Usha Vance, and I'm so glad you joined me today to read a story. I've always loved reading, from when I was a kid until today. Read We Grow. I'll see you next time right here on Storytime with the Second Lady.

[B]

A little bit better.

[C]

And to all of you out there, I'm excited for our next story time. And to all of you out there, I'm excited for our next story time when we'll share another wonderful book with another special reader. Until then, I hope you pick up a few good books to read at home. Because when we read, we Grow. I'll see you next time right here on Storytime with the Second lady sharing another great book with a special reader soon. Until then, I hope all of you out there enjoy finding some new favorites.

[A]

Okay, I've seen enough. For those of you that are listening, she looks like a hostage. She looks like terrorists are standing on the other side of the camera saying, okay. And they have cue cards saying, say this, say this. Here's the thing. I don't know if she is unhappy with J.D. vance. She just had another child with him. We always assume, well, what's wrong with this person? What's wrong with that person? And J.D. vance didn't just become broken. He's been broken. And broken people pick broken people. So ushavans sitting there promoting reading while her husband's administration is dismantling the Department of Education and banning books is just, you know, the irony in that and the hypocrisy in that is just like Melania with her Be Best campaign, right? But there's something more nefarious going on. Usha Podcast Katie Miller Podcast Baby, Baby, they have this. They've capitulated to the patriarchy in a way that I don't think Usha was just. You don't go from being like a progressive Democrat and then all of a sudden you're doing that garbage. She had to have been broken to some extent before or insecure about the own color of her skin that caused her to marry J.D. vance. I'm not buying into that.

[C]

J.D.

[A]

vance just broke her. I think that she has autonomy. She lives an incredibly privileged life. She lives on the taxpayer dime. She is willfully choosing to get up and do this every single day. If she saw things that she was thought were wrong or hypocritical, she could speak out. Hell, the dominant dominatrix on only fans that big titty Brian, the husband of Kristi Noem, was in love with she whistleblower. She whistleblow when she found out that Big Titty Brian, who said he wanted to be a trans bimbo named Crystal. When she found out that Big Titty Brian was married to Christy Noem, she whistleblow. She whistleblow for democracy. So I'm not one of these women that sits and blames the man for everything that goes wrong in another woman's life because I believe in, in the power of women and I believe in feminism and these women that carry water for the patriarchy. Usha Vance, Pam Bondi, the wife of Big Titty Brian. Christy. No, they are. They know what they are doing. These are privileged people that have autonomy, they have choice. And you know, Usha Vance. I don't know what the deal is, but I don't think so. That Lauren, I am Lauren P. She's a progressive influencer. I had her on the pod. She said she thinks they had some frozen embryos. And probably we can deduce after the embrace with Erica Vance and J.D. vance on stage where Erica was dry humping, basically. J.D. vance on. On stage right after her husband was murdered. All over the Internet, Usha immediately gets. I think JD Vance is so such a prostitute that it's like, usha, we need to have another baby. And I don't know if she's just so down the rabbit hole Cult, cult with him. But everyday women are standing up like the Only Fans woman. Unlike Cash Patel's girlfriend, who has more patriotism at the ripe old age of 27, the country music sensation, the dominatrix on Only Fans has shown more patriotism than any Republicans. Yeah, period. Honestly, I fault Usha Vance. I fault the women around them because she has an opportunity to stand up for her kids. She has an opportunity to stand up for herself, and she does it. Now, of course, she could be an abused woman. I just have seen J.D. vance run and I just don't think. I mean, I think I could kick his ass and I've never been in a fight before in my life, but I really genuinely think I could fist fight him and win.

[B]

Yeah, I don't think. I don't know if I could because he's quite a bit taller than me. You're tall. But it would be the only because of the height and fit. He's a little bit chunky. Here's the thing. I've been the broken person that chose a broken person. You know, I've made a bad choice in my marriage. I'll get it. And you grind your heels and you're like, I've got to save this for dear life. So I get the very human part of it. But I mean, like, at some point you got to cry and say, I'm not doing this anymore. And I don't know if she ever will. Some people just never do.

[A]

Yeah, and it's a, it's a tricky thing because a lot of women do get manipulated and broken and beaten down emotionally over time. And I do think the majority of these men are probably abusers. It's difficult for me to have empathy for the women who are providing their gender as cover for other women to go along with the murdering and human rights violations that they're doing. I mean, I just think uchevance like your parents were fucking immigrants, your kids are mixed race kids, and your husband defends Nazis in Nazi group chats where they're saying evil shit, the N word. Talking, talking about people from, you know, her race as sand nigg. You can fill in the rest. Just really grotesque stuff. And J.D. vance come out and can't come out and say, I can. I condemn this. And let me give you an example. George Herbert Walker Bush, the smart Bush president, His wife Barbara Bush famously was pro choice and she went on Oprah and she said, I disagree with my husband about this. I have my own opinion, I have my own ideas. I am not president, however, and this was back in the 80s, she was a boomer, you know, and so I don't know if this is just a whole part of the fascist takeover where the women just go along with this too. I, I don't know. I need a psychologist to dissect it all. But you've seen in Republican circles, Barbara Bush, she famously stood up and said she was pro choice and that she disagreed with George Herbert Walker Bush on the abortion issue.

[B]

Yeah, we're not seeing that in this group of females.

[A]

All right, we can assume that, like Usha Vance has fallen prey to all this toxic masculinity and is deferring to it, giving deference to it. But Usha is not the only one. Capitalism is cashing in on the masculinity crisis. Pop this up. Where can I buy a box of fragile masculinity Man? Cereal gets blasted online for obvious reasons. In a world where even cereal is too girly, finally, man has a solution. Let's pop this up. No, it's not a joke. Launched in 2025, Man Cereal markets itself as a science backed breakfast cereal made for men, though it's not off limits to anyone. Women can and do eat it too. According to its founders, man cereal is high protein, high creatine, Low carb, gluten free, made with no seed oil. I mean, come on, that's like, what's his name? RFK Jr. Is obsessed with seed oils and no added sugar. As Saha writes, in an attempt to make a cereal for men, the brand has created something arguably more hating, more heinous. Manosphere cereal. It has exactly the type of advertising listener that you'd expect for targeting the Maha demographic. Let's pop this up the truck delivering says cereal got its balls back. Man Cereal, creatine, high protein, keto, zero sugar. Oh my God.

[B]

It's just.

[A]

But here's the thing. Man cereal is just the latest example of things that exist purely to give men permission to use a normal product. Like you can literally just go by Cheerios. Here's some others that are focused in on this. Pop this up. We have Dude Wipes, Wet Wipes, rebranded so men can wipe their ass wipes without feeling weird about it. Man candles. Candles. But now men can have them in their own home. And the scents include New York Style Pizza, Sawdust and Fresh Cut grass. And then we have the man size Kleenex Tissues, rebranded as big and strong for men's noses. Man crates, regular gift boxes that come in a wooden crate you open with a crowbar because wrapping paper is emasculating. And bros. Is rose wine relabeled so men could drink pink without a crisis.

[B]

Oh God, I wonder if Jesse Waters has a bunch of this because, you know, he's like big on who's. You know, you can. Men don't eat ice cream like that. Men don't cross their legs. Here's the thing. I have noticed coming across my social media a lot of these and I can't. And I'm so mad at myself. I didn't write it down, but it was like a branded bro. Something that you can just buy every day. And I just thought that is pathetic. It is fucking pathetic on every front that this is happening and I hope they all go bankrupt.

[A]

So I believe I'm right about this. I think that women are the buyers or the purchasers of these types of things in households. And then I would say when you get to the men category, gay men are better consumers, better for the economy than straight men by far. So this Pride Month, I'm calling for a boycott on all of those items from all of the Gay Trio Patriots. They Trots, Black Trio, Brown Trios. Obviously we would never buy those, but I do, I think that they will. Probably all end up going bankrupt. But then the creatine and the wellness industry shit is like bananas. I mean, it's a multi, multi, multi, billion, billion dollar industry. And my mother told me something a long, long time ago. So, you know, there before there was GLP1s, there were always like, you know, people on all of these, like no carb diet, no this diet, no that diet. My mother taught us at a very young age, like moderation, eating in moderation. So fortunately, because she taught me that I've never had to struggle with my weight. But she would talk about people that would do these crash diets and then my mother would say, well, you know, and then they just balloon right back up again in her voice. But she said something that has always stuck with me. She said, if you could bottle up what exercise does for your body and put it on a shelf, it would fly off. And so I think people are always looking for a quick fix instead of just living a lifestyle. And our healthcare system enables this type of non proactive style living. We are reactive to everything where in Europe and other places, walking, wellness checks, moderation. And food is just a part of the lifestyle. In America it's all gas, gas, gas. And then inevitably for Americans, if there's something that can make make you muscular faster, make you skinny faster, make you this faster, make you that faster, everybody wants to bite up and we have. The capitalism prohibits us from actually teaching people and nurturing a culture and a society where people learn to live a healthy lifestyle, in my opinion.

[B]

No, I agree with that because, you know, I've struggled with my weight and I did the, the apple cider vinegar diet. You know, all I've done all the things. So I completely get that. If I would have started as a young person, like exercising every day, eating a certain amount of calories, like paying attention to it, being aware of it,

[A]

but it's not part of the, it's not culture.

[B]

Yeah, no, it's not. And I'll tell you what, I'm so glad we started talking about wellness because it's, this has been, I've been dying to bring this up to you and I keep forgetting. So this is perfect. So in Oklahoma City, there are two. Okay, two new places that are IV bars, which I thought IV bars where you got hammered. You went and got an IV for like fluids to help with the hangover. That's what I always thought they were. But these are like, you can get all these different. So I pull up to a place and I noticed next to it there's is an IV bar for every. It's. So now we've taken supplements, like pill supplements, and now we've escalated it to, you have to go to an IV bar to get these supplements. And I was just like, oh my God, it's two of them in Oklahoma.

[A]

It's just, it's a racket. And all of that man branded stuff is just preying on the insecurity of men that are like, these little tissues are gay. Rose is gay. You know, like they, they are so insecure in their own masculinity. If you have to go buy something that affirms your masculinity, your mask, the foundation of your masculinity is not on strong footing, in my opinion.

[B]

No, I completely agree. I mean, why can't you just eat Cheerios? Now granted, they, that might not be infused with creatine, but I mean, like you said, just go get chariots. Like, this is not new. You haven't invented something. It's ridiculous. All these fucking pussy men, I can't stand them.

[A]

Well, and it's interesting because there's this whole, like, there's a sect of MAGA men that are like real into fitness. But overwhelmingly, by and large, the crowds that I see at Trump rallies and that I saw at January six are pretty heavy. And Trump was aware of this because during January 6, it was reported that when he was in the dining room off of the Oval Office, he said, I wish my supporters didn't look so trashy, you know, because they're, they're all kind, you know, they're all kind of dub T. Right? They're all white trash. And so when he had his UFC fight for his birthday party, I read that the Pentagon was going to offer them to people that were in the military, but only that had a certain height to waist range ratio. No fat, no fatties were allowed at the, at the birthday party for Donald Trump.

[B]

Is that crazy?

[A]

Which, you know, it's amazing to me how abusive he is to his own supporters. Yeah. Oh, and they just like. And honestly, a lot of the Trump people that I know are, are heavy. I mean, it's, it's especially in the south and I think Oklahoma is one of the more obese states there is. But it's amazing how he gets away with just brow beating and ridiculing his supporters and they just go back up for more and more. It's really fascinating.

[B]

Well, and I mean, I know I bring this up all the time, but he's the one that's pointing out everybody's weight and appearance. And I'm just like, are you fucking kidding me, fat ass?

[A]

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[D]

Okay, up first we've got Danielle.

[E]

Hi. I've had it. I am an American raised by maga people in the bible belt, but now I live in London. Sorry to brag that I got out. I have had it with performative vegetable virtue signaling. And what I mean here is I'm a waitress and this weekend someone ordered an omelette with four vegetables and then A green smoothie that was all vegetables. And then was like, is there a side salad? Because I want to make sure I get in all my vegetables. And it's like, do you think you're better than me? Like, why don't you go up to everybody. Single person in the restaurant and tell them that you just ordered almost entirely vegetables? Like, you sound so unfun at parties. Like, she probably does triathlons. Her friend across the table looked so defeated, like she was choosing peace on the day of the Lord. I'm not even religious, but it was a Sunday. She wanted pancakes. Like, let your friend have maple syrup. Just eat your vegetables and be quiet. She just had to make sure I knew how many vegetables she was eating. After ordering, like 70 vegetables, it's like what Jen talks about with performative hydration. It was virtue signaling. Eat your vegetables and shut the fuck up.

[A]

It's difficult, all of this shit, all of the. It's difficult to eat with people. And I was a waitress back in the day and before a lot of the food allergies and all of these things really caught on. And it was mainly like, hold the onions. 86. The onions would be like the most. I couldn't imagine doing it now because the performative. The performative nature of eating because I'll just. Everybody I ever met that was like, I'm gluten free. I'm gluten free, would get shit face hammer drunk. And at 2am they're ordering pizza, which, yeah, correct me if I'm wrong, is chock full of gluten.

[B]

Yeah, it is, unless it's gluten free. But I don't know. I don't think when you're hammered, you're doing that. You know what this reminds me of? That all of these people that all they're eating is vegetables, is how bad their gas is. And that. That just how I've been around somebody that only eats plant. Like, plant based.

[A]

You're around somebody who eats plants and all they do is fart.

[B]

Have the worst gas. So when I think about all these people, like the RFK diet and all these performative vegetable eaters, I just think, oh, my God, they have the worst gas. That's what I think.

[A]

Have you seen these videos online where it's like, Trump, you know, he's always sitting at the Resolute desk and he has like, you know, 1500 pink arm dipshit standing behind him, and he's sitting there dozing off. Stroke victim, lip down. And then it looks like he makes a face. And then the person that's made the clip makes it look like, did Trump just take a shit or did Trump just pass gas? Then watch the people behind him, and the people are like, have you seen those clips?

[B]

I live for those clips. I'm just waiting. Here's the thing I've had. I've watched stuff like my kids have, like, run in and showed me, like, oh, my God, Trump farted at that desk where somebody's added a fart sound. AI, of course, every time I'm like, let me see it. And then I'm just like, no, I think. I mean, but no.

[A]

Some of the people behind him, though, the way. I don't know if it's just really crafty, like real making like that are making the tick tocks as the reels or whatever, but it. When you look and they're like, notice the people's face. And you watch this again and look at the people behind him and you see Trump kind of make this face. And then people behind him are like, and it totally tracks. I want to believe it.

[B]

I would. And everybody knows, A, he's asleep, and B, old people, when they're asleep, they pass gas and don't know it. Not that I think he would give A, if he passed gas in front of.

[A]

How do you have experience on that?

[B]

Well, my grandparents were in their 90s

[A]

when they died and they were farting

[B]

around you not even knowing they did because I'd say, oh, my gosh, you tooted. I. And my grandmother would say, I hate that.

[A]

People pass gas around you a lot, don't they? I guess.

[B]

Have you never been around an old person that just let it slide?

[A]

I'm.

[G]

I'm.

[A]

I'm sure I have. I'm sure I have. Okay, let's listen to the next voice memo.

[D]

Okay, up next, we've got Lainey.

[G]

Hi, Jen, Angie, and Kylie. This is Lainey from Michigan. Love the show. I just wanted to leave a voice message and tell you about some petty ass that I have gotten up to today that is just making my day. So I have been getting mail from Turning Point usa, which is wild to me. Someone must have sold my info. I vote progressive and I've been getting democratic mailings for years. And all of a sudden I'm getting Turning Point mail. Erica Kirk mail. So gross. But today what I decided to do was stuff everything back in the prepaid envelope, check the box for a generous donation of fill in the blank $0. So you send that back, and not only does it annoy them, but it supports the post office and they have to pay for the postage. So I did that. And not only did I do that, but I went ahead and went to Planned Parenthood's website and made an actual donation. And when you do that, you can make the donation in honor of someone. So I went ahead and put Erica Kirk and Turning Point address. So Planned Parenthood will be sending them a postcard informing them of my donation in their name.

[A]

Really? That is, that is patriotism right up there with the dominatrix of Big Titty Brian. I mean, everyday Americans are leading the way and resisting in ways that the Republican Party is not able to do. Everyday Americans are standing up for women in ways that Erica Kirk is trying to tear down. This is brilliant listener. Patriots. Patriots, Patriots. Femtriots. Everybody should go to Planned Parenthood right now. Donate $5, 10, 20, 100 and do it in the name of Erica Kirk. I love this idea.

[B]

This is pure brilliance. Like, I'm so mad that I have never thought of this. That's the smartest thing I've ever heard. I think that is.

[A]

Yeah, it's incredible. All right, let's do one more caller.

[D]

I also just want to say I've had two friends that have gotten mail from Erica Kirk in the last. Really well, so I don't know. They're buying people's.

[A]

Here's the thing. I, I think Turning Point is having financial problems. I don't have any, any evidence for that. I just think they are. And I think that it is, it will be bankrupt soon. And I think she's spiraling out. And I think a lot of these people that went all chips in on Trump, went all trips in on Maga, are spiraling out because number one, he dying. We've seen it. We just talked about him. His pants behind the Resolute desk, which what is what appears to happen on these Instagram Tik Toks things that we look at all the time. But I think that they are just spiraling to try to get the movement to take off again. And yes, there are way too many batshit crazy anti women women in this world that will fight against all of this stuff. And then one day they're going to need it and it's going to be like, oh my God, I need this service or oh my God, this person did this to me because I was a woman. But I think Turning Point is cooked. There's no way evolved women are going to go along with that. Now these Bible thumper Bible moms, yes, they'll go along with it. Because they're married to Pink Arm dip shits that are probably on Grindr, you know. And so, and I just think, I think that the Turning Point situation, much like the Moms of Liberty, is going to produce a huge midlife lesbianism boom in about a decade. I'm gonna date this, I think maga and yep, yes, I think we are going to see a huge midlife lesbianism boom about ten years from now. These women are buying into this. They're going along with their husbands. It's Pink Arm City. And then they will have had it at some point. And the Turning Point ladies are going to start scissoring each other 10 years from today. Hide and watch. If not sooner, if not sooner. It's going to be, it's going to be Scissor Point.

[B]

Scissor Point with Erica Point usa.

[A]

And here's what she can do. And her coming out just like Charlie Kirk's funeral with the pyrotechnics. She could have the stage right and she could open the door and then kick the door down and the hinges like fly off like confetti all everywhere. And she's like, surprise, surprise. And she brings out her wife. She's like, it's no longer Turning Point. And the fireworks go off. She goes, it's Scissor Point, the patriarchy. And then she has like a pride flag and all this. And everybody's like, we still hate your guts.

[B]

Yeah, we still hate you. Oh my God. That's Scissor Point. That's one of my favorite things.

[D]

We've touched on this a little, but if you go on a tick tock deep dive, there is a lot of lesbian investigation of Erica Kirk. Her past rumor, really her past comments on Instagram. There's a whole black hole to go into on that.

[A]

I like that type of research. I support it.

[B]

I'm all in.

[A]

I don't support it on everyday people that are living their life privately, but on somebody like Erica Kirk who will not shut the up, who gave a weird video in a sniper outfit. And you know, I had a firework funeral for her husband has never once talked about gun control or mental well being. None of this shit.

[B]

Her.

[A]

I love the people investigating her. Scissor Point. Scissor Point. Okay, last one.

[D]

Up next, we've got Jackie and Jen. This reminds me of a commercial you and I saw just the other day.

[F]

What's up, team? I'm Jackie. I live in New Jersey and like pumps. I've been watching a lot of the Women's World Series because I am obsessed with softball, and I love it, okay? But that also means that I've been subject to the same three commercials after every top and bottom of every inning. And so what I've had it with is just this marketing that we do for men. For example, Weber grills comes on, and they're like. They're like, weber Grills, the most manly shit you can do. Put your meat here on the grill, cook it up, put your man meat on here, flip it over, but not for too long. You don't want it to be well done because you like it rare because you're a man. Weber Grills, you know when they put the. The man with, like, the lowest possible most masculine voice on there. And then, of course, they need to say the obvious because of their target audience. And so they're like, weber grill sold wherever Weber grills are sold. And so that's what I've had it with. Just this crazy target marketing that is just so gross. And like, how can these people not understand that. That they're targeting you? And. And. And. And I've just. I've had it, okay?

[A]

In Oklahoma. It's really bad. It's like, Ford truck, Oklahoma standard. And this is something. Here's something I want to say to all of the brave blue dots in a red state that proudly cause good trouble and let the people around you know that you are not down with their dehumanization, with their taking away women's right to choose, with their racism, etc. Those of you that are quiet about it, you. That's worse. But to all of the loud and proud progressives in blue states, I'm not talking to you, But I saw something came across my feed, and it was like, such and such exemplifies the Oklahoma standard. And I was like, what is The Oklahoma standard? 50th in education, 50th for women. Is. Is that the standard?

[F]

The.

[A]

These people went and you could vote to raise the minimum wage, and they voted no. Governor Dip letting his donors out who, like, practically killed a person in a drunken driving thing. Like, it's just. I think what amazes me about Republican Christians is how good they think they are at shit when they're literally a walking, breathing example of how not to do something. Like, Oklahoma is an example of how not to govern, how to race to the bottom. But Governor Dipshit, Governor Stick gets out and he's like, we're top 10 state.

[B]

I'm like, in what?

[A]

What are you talking about? Like, what are you talking about? That's Just, it's not true. It's objectively not true.

[B]

The thing about it is I hear that all the time, what is the Oklahoma standard? Like, like you said, like poor people, murder, like all the gun violence. I was had this statistic pulled up of all the shit, like everything that's bad that you don't want in your community is in Oklahoma. And when he said that about the top 10 state or the Oklahoma standard, shut the fuck up. The standard should be higher. If this is your standard, you should want more, you should be better. But they don't want to be better.

[A]

It's devastating. Like living there for so long and watching people actively go out and vote against the well being of everybody and just lap up all of this propaganda without any critical thinking. And when I read the results of the most recent primary where they put that state question to raise the minimum wage for one of the poorest states in the country. And I think about all of the places I've been in Oklahoma where people work minimum wage. And then here's the fucked up thing about it. So if you live in Oklahoma, there's an ice cream store called Brahms and it's delicious. Like, and it's a chain in Oklahoma and Texas. They have great ice cream. Great. The drive through is notoriously difficult to get through. And I would always remind my kids and husband like, these people make minimum wage, don't be a dick, do not be a dick. Inevitably I'd end up going through with another mom or something. And just the way these privileged workers, white people treat people that make minimum wage and how demeaning and punching down they are to them is something I have witnessed my entire life in Oklahoma City. So not only do the people that work minimum wage, not only were they probably able to go out and vote for a higher wage, the people who should be advocating for them don't. And it's just, it's really, it's really disgusting when you see Republican policies, Republican super majorities, and especially a religious state with mega churches on every corner that are making hundreds of millions of tax free dollars, that the churches aren't getting skin in the game saying go vote. I mean they're doing it, go vote for Trump. But it's really disgusting. It is an example of by design, Oklahoma, Oklahoma is 50th in education and they did that on purpose. And the votes, the election results on Tuesday show you that Project 2025 make a dumb electorate. Make an electorate that will go vote against their well being and that won't even think about A greater cause other than themselves. Like, of course we need to pay people more than $7 an hour.

[B]

Right?

[A]

Keeping people dumb works because they get everything they want in Oklahoma. They get the race to the bottom, the oil and gas, people make a ton of money, white people reign supreme. And they get all of the rubes to go out and vote against their self interest. And they get the Christians to run around and think that they are a holy state. And they do all of this without impunity. And all the mega church pastors in Oklahoma, you guys, they've got hundreds of millions in the banks and an airplane hangar with private planes in them and they're all maga.

[B]

Yeah, all. I mean, I can attest to every single thing you just said. Yes, yes, yes, yes. You know, and I guess what really strikes me is all, I mean, like, and, and I, I did it so I understand, like unless something hits you, you don't notice it, you don't pay attention, it doesn't affect you. So you have no empathy. You're elitist, you're selfish, narcissistic, all the things. But then like when it comes to, I thought there would be a huge wake up moment like with, especially when women's rights were taken away, that women would stand up and say, we're not allowing this, full stop. We have daughters. You know, now they're wanting to take away a woman's right to vote. It just, the women for me are the most disappointing and again, very religious. Doesn't happen to them. But I think it's a privilege. Like if you don't have to worry about that because if it happened to you or your daughter, you could go somewhere else and, you know, do what you wanted, have reproductive freedom. And it's just, it's, it's stunning to me. I still could just, honestly, I could sit down and cry about it sometimes, how ridiculous it is, people voting against their own self interest. And I have some empathy for it because I've done it. But you have to do better. You have to evolve, you have to educate yourself. And it just, it enrages me.

[A]

Yeah, I don't have any empathy for it. I've none. Because on a lot, on a lot of levels, a lot of the people that do this are consciously aware of how cruel they are. They edit the things they say in front of some people and then when they say something, well, I don't care, that doesn't affect me. But they wouldn't say that around somebody else. There is a willful cruelty in all of this. And There it's hard for me to have empathy for people that have all the privilege in the world, world that actively brag about, well, that doesn't affect me. Well, shut the up. And it is a cultural problem in the Bible Belt and it is symptomatic of Republican super majorities with a big dose of mega church culture in there. And it creates a culture where women and men that go to these mega churches think their higher power does personal little things, favors for them little. It's not about like what the Pope talks about like these big gestures of genocide in Gaza or you know, hunger, poverty, consolidation of wealth with power, evil people. It's not about any of that. They keep you dumbed down by focusing on like, well, you know, if you want that raise, you're going to have to tithe. And you know, and it's all these little. And then, then I would hear people growing up like, you know, I really needed an extra couple hundred bucks and I got a gig to do like a babysitting job. And it's because I tied that Sunday and I want to be like, if you wouldn't have tithe, you still would have gotten the phone call for the babysitting job.

[B]

Right.

[A]

But it creates a culture that is uniquely narcissistic and that traffics and recreational cruelty. Because the women I know that do this are abundantly aware. They are aware that their mindset is cruel and they say knowingly, I know that and I don't care. They say it. So I don't have empathy for people that can look me in the eye and say they don't care about other people. I just don't.

[B]

I have empathy for like the rural Oklahoman that's never been anywhere but their church. They don't have any money. They, the church is the only place they go and they're, they're just not educated. I think women and upper middle class people and people with access to the Internet and all of those things. I don't have empathy for them because they should know better. They could know better. But I do like I agree with

[A]

you about the rule thing. Like they've been, nobody's delivered for them materially ever.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

In the Democratic Party or the Republican Party and it's. I agree with you, I have empathy for that too. But it is the aforementioned people that we're talking about that enable that I saw on this, on this election to raise the minimum wage. It was the rural areas voted to raise it and it was the urban richer area codes that voted no and that tells you everything about how rigged the system is and how unempathetic, pathetic, white, Christian capitalists are as a whole. It's pretty gross. All right, that's all we have. Please, like, subscribe, comment, pre order my book. Not today, Fascists. Here it is. Here's the screenshot of it. Or not the screenshot, the book of it.

[C]

Whatever.

[A]

Just order it. We'll see you all later. I'll tell you what I've had it with. Let's hear it. I've had it with that.