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So are we supposed to start the podcast?
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Ready, one, two, three. Patriots.
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Gay Trots. They Trio. Black Triots, Brown Trio. We love you. And all of the triple trumpers can do what? Pumps. Pumps. What have you had it with?
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What I've had it with is when you run into somebody you haven't seen for like, 20, 30 years and they name drop, it's like, number one. I don't know the same people you do. I don't care. But just name droppers in general strike me as insecure trying to prove they're cool. And it just makes me think they're not cool if you drop, like, two names. Whether I know them or not, I'm immediately thinking, this person's really insecure if they're having to tell me all these cool people they know. So that happened, and I was just like, I'm so glad that I don't see a lot of people. I don't get out in the wild that much and run into people I went to college with.
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Were the people that were name dropped, were they quality people? Did you know who they were?
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I don't know who they were, but I could tell it was meant to impress me. But I was just like, even if I did know who they were, I wouldn't care because why do you have to bring them up to be cool? I thought it was weird.
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Yeah. Yeah. The name dropping situation can be so incredibly annoying. I think it has to be an insecurity. And so it's like, I'm important by proxy. Yeah. You know, my proximity to these people make me super duper important. Okay, let me tell you what I've had it with. I've had it with my dogs, Cha Cha and Tubby. We're going through a phase in their upbringing where they have absolutely 100% decided that they are not canines and that they need to do what people do with people. And I'll give you all some examples. So when I'm here recording, they have to go to a doggy daycare because they snort. They make a lot of noise. I can't have them here. And is that a bird, Kylie? We have a bird listener right outside the window of our new New York studio. Ryan's trying to get it. It's trying to nest right outside. Is it going? Is it a bunch? Are they making a nest? Are they mating?
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I think they're going to make a
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home there anyway, so my dogs, pumps at the doggy daycare, they have cameras and you can log in and watch what the dogs are doing. So I log in and they are sitting up on this little, like, co away from all of the other dogs, staring at all of the other dogs in complete judgment, right? It's unbelievable. And so then I get their report cards at the end of the day, and it's like, Tubby and Cha Cha sure do like spending time with each other. And now it's been discovered they only play with other Frenchies. So on top of them thinking they're better than everybody else, they're straight up racist against all other breeds of dogs. They only want to play with Frenchies. So this weekend I thought, you know, I'm going to really spend a lot of time with them. We're going to get back to our roots. I'm really going to mother them. We're going to find out what's going on. So I take them to the dog park, these little twats. I sit on the bench. They sit right under me on the bench, right under the bench, and just watch the other dogs play as they though, like, oh, this is what we do. Then the lady that was sitting next to me stood up and left, and then they hopped their asses up and next to me, and there's just the three of us sitting on the bench inside the dog park. And they're watching all of the other dogs as though they are human beings watching them. And then so I thought, okay, I'm gonna switch it up. We'll go to a different dog park on Sunday. So we go to a different dog park and it's the same. However, there was a Frenchie there, and they did play with this Frenchie. And then all of the other dogs just snotty as all get out. I, I just, I. I've created monsters is what I've done with these dogs.
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Yeah, well, you've created monsters. And to be fair to Tubby and Chacha, in New York City, they get to go to the grocery store, they get to get a restaurant. I mean, they get to do a lot of human stuff. So they probably are a little bit insulted when they have to do dog stuff. Here's the thing, like, 18 months, no, two years ago, if you would have talked about, you know, watching the dogs on the, on the camera at the doggy daycare, I would have been like, it's fucking crazy. I don't know why people do that. Now that I have dogs like Frenchies that I just love and take to daycare, I say something to the owner, like, every two or three weeks about, when are you gonna get cameras? Like, I really think that I would be the person that sat on their camera and just had their phone propped up and watch what their dogs were doing all day?
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Yeah, I've watched. I haven't checked on them today, but the first week that they went and I checked on them and it's just, it's, it's really kind of embarrassing. Like all the other dogs are so excited to be there and they're running around and they're enthusiastic and they're playing with each other and they're like, it's this huge treat. And then my dogs are just, you know, it's like I've just marched them to the penitentiary or something. And then here's where it gets worse. So then Cha Cha will escalate it. She'll hop off the little cot and then she just sits right by the door just staring at it. I'm talking for hours. I'll go back and she's just like, like, when is she going to get me? When is she going to get me? And then. So I don't know. From dog parks to the doggy daycare, the situation with my dogs is bad, elitist, racist. I mean, straight up will not play with any other species of dog, any other color of dog unless it is a, in fact, a French bulldog. And Cha Cha particularly hates German shepherds. I don't know what's going on with that I. That French German. And that goes back obviously a long time. But we'll be walking down the streets and she's completely fine walking down the streets in Manhattan. And then there's a German shepherd and I know, like, I have to completely. She goes at the German shepherd and I look at the owner and I'm just like, I'm sorry. And the German shepherds are always like, what's wrong with you? Yeah, it's nuts. All right. Welcome to I've had It. I'm Jennifer.
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I'm Angie.
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All right, we have. Next up, we have some reviews from Kylie.
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Hi. I've got a five star review titled do not drink anything while listening. And that mom 85 says, I cannot tell you how many times I've almost choked laughing at these perfect women after a poorly timed drink of water. They're exactly what our country needs right now. And I could not be more grateful that I found I've had it. I can't refer to any politician without nicknames anymore. And Titty Baby is my favorite. Is my new favorite everything. Thank you for being my light in the dark part of US history.
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How nice is that?
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It's really nice. Very, very nice. All right, who's next?
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Okay, this one is five stars caller. Go ahead. Said love these ladies and they write. I love how real these ladies are. It's like the worst, most inept person, you know, became self aware and owns their faults while realizing the system they live in is totally and also won't tolerate fascism. That sounds underhanded, but I mean it sincerely. Like the plot of quote. I keep deleting my texts and voicemail apps but I'm self aware about it not being entirely my fault. And I am mad at the tech companies for even making it possible and for constantly changing things for no reason except profit. So legit in real life we would be BFFs.
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That's so nice. I love it Pumps and all of her phone problems. All my tech problems.
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Kylie, you did fix my stuff though.
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A
Good.
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I do have a little issue that I'm going to talk to you about after work hours.
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Sure. Is Kylie your genius bar?
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He's my genius bar. Yeah, Absolutely. Okay.
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All right. I have a new story I want to share with you. Kylie popped this up. A tech company launched an AI Jesus that you can talk to for A$99aminute. And there is a video that explains this which we are going to play for you now.
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I hear your request for prayer dot break. Father God, I lift my dear friend Christa before you do.
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Bragging for $1.99 per minute. The tech company just like me is taking having a personal relationship with Jesus to new levels.
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Psalmist says the Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want.
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Users of the platform can join video calls with an AI generated Jesus that remembers previous conversations.
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This is not a replacement for human connection. At the same time we're. You know, people are spending so much time in social world just scrolling.
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It's part of a larger boom of AI tools designed with religion in mind. From AI Jesuses to Buddhist priests like this one.
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Emmy is supposed to be a Zen friend, someone who helps you human beings in their Zen practice.
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I tried just like me's AI Jesus first, asking it a simple question. How many books of the Bible are
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in the New Testament?
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The New Testament contains 27 books.
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Then I made it a little more complicated. Is AI going to take our jobs?
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The scriptures remind us that every skill is a gift from God. He calls us to be faithful stewards of those gifts. Seek wisdom and prayer as you navigate changing seasons.
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But when I asked it to pray for me, things didn't go quite as smoothly.
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May you give her peace that passes all understanding. Dot break. Guide her steps with your loving light. Dot break. Deep breath. May she feel hope surrounding her. Dot breaks. May the Holy Spirit gently calm her mind. Now Dot brace.
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Wow. Here's the thing. They're going to make a gazillion dollars because people are going to call in there and just think that they take their personal relationship to a whole new level. But it goes back to people will. I mean it's, it's bad enough the isolation, especially young people that are so addicted to their phones. Now they're going to have AI Jesus to talk to. I mean the whole thing is depressing.
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Yeah, I just, just any sort of technology that will continue the grift of this death cult, which are white evangelical Christians, I just fundamentally oppose these people are really the root of this maga movement. That's where all of the support is. These are the people that won't stand up for marginalized people. And so now they're going to have a robot. And it's just, it's just more than I can take. Everybody knows I've had it with religion, particularly white Christian nationalists. Can't stand them. All right, moving along. Speaking of white Christian nationalists, you know that I do quite love a Republican scandal involving sex, gay sex or cross dressing or anything of that nature. So everybody knows about Big Titty Brian, the husband of Christy Noem. And I don't have a problem with Big Titty Brian. I just have a problem with he and his wife's hypocrisy and gaslighting the American public saying we have a godly marriage while she's corn leaf Corey Lewandowski and he's running around taking selfies on only fans with his big tits. And so I think it's really interesting that the number one scapegoat the last few years has been trans people, which everybody knows is like less than 1% of the population. Yet there is this massive, massive, massive disproportionate response to this. You always hear everybody, you know, on the, in the right wing media spaces, what's a woman? You know, like that. What's a woman? Is it birthing people? And they're just lose their minds about that. They will never encounter nor will ever affect their lives. Right. So this is a video by Lucas Bean and his instagram handle is luke360. Okay.
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Why conservatives are obsessed with trans people. There's a psychological reason for that and I have a feeling you know what it is. In 1996, psychologist Henry Adams at the University of York, New Georgia put men in a lab and measured their physical response while watching different types of adult content. And the results are wild. Over 50% of the men with the highest scores on the homophobia scale showed a physical response to gay content. The men that were not homophobic, less than one in four responded at all to gay content. Psychologists call this reaction formation. When people feel shame about something inside themselves, they don't take deal with it. They attack others for what they see in themselves. The louder the outrage, the deeper the shame. This is why the most anti gay politicians keep getting caught in airport bathrooms. This is why Grindr crashes every time the Republican convention comes to town. This is why the men screaming the loudest about trans people can't stop thinking about trans people. They're not protecting their values. They're scared. You'll see their search history.
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So well, well, well. We had long suspected such a scenario took place. And I would say that if I were a dictator, I would for a day. What I would do is I would line up all the penises of every member of Congress and the Senate and I would hook their penises up to this testing that Lucas here talks about. And I would play various different types of porn. Of course, I would have it live streamed so everybody in the whole country could enjoy who is getting an erection. Lady Graham. When they watch certain types of porn. And so the point of this is that nobody gives a shit if somebody's gay. Nobody gives a shit if somebody's trans. Nobody gives a shit if Big Titty Brian wants to have big titties. What we care about is the hypocrisy. Ostracizing people during the day that you're fetishizing at night. And now the science backs it all up. All of these homophobic men probably like to watch gay porn. And here's the thing. There's nothing wrong with it. Who gives a. They do. They're embarrassed that they like penis. And so I just want to put up this next one. And this is important. Brian Gnome reportedly told his dom. He has this dom on only fans. He wants to be a trans bimbo named Crystal. And here's the thing. I want to live in a world where Big Titty Brian gets to be a trans bimbo named Crystal. Because I think if that's what he wants to do, swing for the fences, it's a free country. But Kristi Noem wants to live in a world where she kidnaps kids and sends people off to concentration camps and dehumanizes them and has a police force that shoots innocent Protesters. And so, I mean, these fascist pumps are just more than I can take. But it was before Trump, all of these sanctimonious Bible thumping Christians. I always know when they're wound up about gays. And now you know the ones that are wound up about trans issues? These are the people that pull an all nighter, yanking off to transport. That's just what's happening.
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I will just say this for the listener. You, the science has finally caught up with this theory that you. I mean, you have been on this for 20 years. Like, if the louder the screamer, the louder about the faith, the louder about the sex, how pure they are, the worse it is in private and every single time. Correct, correct, correct. Because if you don't give a, you're not talking about it all the time.
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Which is why if I was dictator for a day, I would out every single one of these motherfuckers, starting with Lindsey Graham, Little Moses, Mike Grinder Johnson. I want Ted Cruz's cock. If we can find it, if it's not inverted, I want that thing hooked up. I want to see what. What it reacts to. I think we know because Ted, being the patriot that he is, on the anniversary of 911 a few years ago, he liked a porn tweet and he blamed, you know, some poor intern that had nothing to do with it, when everybody knows it's spankaholic Ted Cruz in there hitting the pounding this, like, button for sure.
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Okay, I have a funny story. You know how I penis shame everyone, and I am a firm believer. My theory is you can always tell when a man has poor sexual performance or a small penis because they have big trucks with big tires or big motorcycles or, you know, they tell you how big they are. Okay, So I ran into a girl, different girl than the name dropper we're talking about. And I was like, are you dating blah, blah. She's like, oh, my God, you're not gonna believe this. So I got on this date with this guy. He takes me to the lake. He's like, let's drive around on my boat. Which I'm like, okay, cool. She said, it's one of those big cigarette boats, like, the biggest boat on the lake. It's so loud you can't hear anything. I mean, she's like, it is so big and ridiculous and so loud, I'm embarrassed to be on it. And of course, I had sex with him. And his penis was so small, like, I could not believe how small his penis was. I go, I could have told you
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that from Jump the minute. So it's a micropene. Let me ask you this. Let me. It's a micropene. We're dealing with micropene. Okay. So let me ask you this. Did you have the respect for me and the listener to ask the follow up questions such as these?
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Okay.
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Was he at all a quick shot in addition to being a micro penis? Did you ask? Did you have the decency for myself and the listener for us to know those details?
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Okay, I had. I took a victory lap so quick about. I knew it.
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No follow up questions.
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No fault. But I do know it couldn't have been that fast because it was so small. Like it had trouble staying on the mark. If you get my draft. So it was a teeny teeny one. I kept flopping out.
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Oh really? Yeah.
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That's bad.
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Wow.
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But the biggest boat on the lake. The loudest. I mean I did take my victory lap too soon.
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I did smallest penis on the. On the lake as well. So Kylie, do we know about.
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So here's the porn tweet and you'll see the date is 9 11.
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Yeah.
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I kind of remember doggy style in that picture from the. I don't know.
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You have always liked it from behind.
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I do like it from behind. I will say.
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Oh, you're right. I see there is a doggy style situation here.
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See,
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look at, look at the steel traps. Still, still trap memory. She remembers the important doggy style. Yeah.
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You can see she's watching a couple do doggy style.
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Yeah. Huh.
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Ted probably likes to watch too. I could see him totally being like a Jerry Falwell type that likes to sit in the corner and jack off where people have sex. That would not surprise me.
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Poor Heidi, his wife.
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Oh my God, poor her.
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Question, do you think the gyrator is hitting on you? Like being around doing the stuff while you are. Do you think it's kind of like a signal?
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He would probably be hitting on. He'd probably be more attracted to my trainer than me. She's 24. I mean, just a smoke show to end all smoke shows. I don't know, because everywhere we go and I mean, she goes, there's the jackrabbit. And he walked. And then we go over to the mat to do like abs and then he's over there and the, the exercising is just. I asked her, I said, have you ever seen this before? Is this like maybe something in the bowels of tick tock? Is this some new worker? She goes, I never in my life seen this. And she's been a fitness trainer for like five years. And she's like, I've never seen anything like this. He's going to injure.
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So, okay, how old is how old the guy is?
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Okay, so here's the thing. Let me paint the visual of the guy. So he, he looks like he just came from a hike in Colorado. He has that kind of granola effect. Not full blown hippie, but like a mountain man style affect. He's clean shaven and all of that, but he wears like, I would say mountain style workout clothes, like what a hiker would wear. And he has on like hiking style tennis shoes. And I mean, it looks like he just came from like. Yeah, I was just on a hike in Aspen. You know, it kind of has that kind of like yuppie hiker, but still a mountain guy. So I, I can't really wrap my head around what's all going on at this gym? Other than. I do think that. I think it was our friend Renee Stubbs said there should be a reality show about gym drama.
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Yeah.
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And I think there really should be because there's. Every single time I work out, there's somebody that I could just hyper fixate on and just study their entire. Everything that they're doing. And particularly the jackrabbit gyrator and the handstand guy. I'm.
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I mean, I will tell you, I think it's creepy as and all that, but I'm really impressed that a guy can stand on his hands.
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It was so impressive.
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And do the feet and then pull him down like multiple.
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But it's impressive he did it multiple times at one point. I w. The first time I saw him do it, I watched him do it. And it was probably about a minute, minute and a half presentation in middle of the gym. And he stopped and I was like, I like kind of clapped. And then I realized he just kept doing it over and over and over again. Like he'd do some squats, then he'd go back to the handstand. Like he had put it into his program. It's. It's pretty fascinating stuff. Which brings me to like. I'm such a boring worker out.
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Right?
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Yeah, same. All right, let's listen to voice memos.
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Okay. The first one. Jen, there's going to be some really interesting tidbits in here for you.
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Okay?
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This is Cindy.
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Okay.
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Hey, Jennifer. Hi, Pumps. Hey, Kylie. Cindy.
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Here.
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I've been meaning to send you this. I've had it for a while, but Melania's quote unquote press conference finally pushed me over the edge to go back a little. My best friend and I, both New Yorkers, both single women of a certain age, meaning we're about as ancient as pumps are.
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Really big travelers.
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And last fall we went to Slovenia, of all places, which is the birthplace of you know who. It's a beautiful country. And in our own personal protest, we dubbed it our take back Melania tour. We drove throughout the country blasting I've had had it and I hip news and asking people if they would take her back. Here's the thing. No one there wants her back. Not a single person would claim her. And in fact, they were nicer to us when they realized we didn't want her either. So here's what I've had it with her stupid fake ass accent. Not one person that we spoke to there sounded remotely like her. She's making that shit up and I have had it. There used to be a statue in her hometown to honor her that was made of wood. Someone burnt it down. They made another one out of bronze. And last year someone chopped it off at the feet and stole it. It was not us. That was before we went. Anyhow, Kylie should pop up those statues at some point so you can see how ugly they are. Anyhow, keep up the good fight, Jennifer. Now that you're in New Yorker, I hope to run into you at the next Angel Antifa meeting or in line to pick up our text from George Soros. Kylie, speaking of picking up, please pick up after your dog. Thanks.
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Yeah, that is. So did you find these articles, Kylie? Yeah.
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Okay, so I looked into this statue.
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Okay.
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This is the first one that went up.
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What? This is wood?
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No, it's the ugliest no ever seen.
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And she probably lit that on fire herself.
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C
No, here's what's interesting. And she alluded to this. This is in an article from 2020. Wooden Melania Trump statue was replaced with bronze after an arson attack. So someone burned it down. So then they make this bronze one ugly as as well. And this is 2025, Melania Trump statue goes missing. So they just keep stealing these statues.
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A
So they hate her.
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B
Hate.
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A
Oh my God. You know, here's the thing. We know that Melania, I don't know if she was a victim initially in this whole Epstein thing. And I think that it could. We could deduce that potentially she was. That she was recruited at a very young age by these model type, predatorial men that worked for Epstein that brought over these Europe, young Eastern European people. In the Epstein files, there are suggestions that, you know, Trump is banging her on Jeffrey Epstein's plane. Coming out to everybody, she's a hot piece of ass. There's also a video that I think is pretty interesting online if you guys will find it. It is of Donald Trump and Melania horse race. And he introduces her as Melania now and says she's from Austria and she's not from Austria. And so I thought that was just really interesting. I've seen this floating around online and let's see if they can find it. Pumps. Because whatever she was initially, she certainly morphed into a hardcore, you know, sociopath.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Whack job. Melania, did you find it? Kylie, afternoon to you. Well, thank you very much. How are you? I'm fine.
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B
This lady right here next to Milani
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F
Canals from New York, from Austria.
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A
Hello there, Melanie.
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C
Hello.
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A
Nice to meet you too. Are you here to Buy Churchill Downs by chance. Okay. Interesting that she's from Austria there, because she's not from Austria. And so I just think that is pretty fascinating. I mean, was she lying to Donald Trump about where she was from? Did she come over with this crop? And I'm just pontificating here. She come over with this crop of Eastern European models that, that Amanda Ungaro, who Trump had deported. Did she come over with all of them? I just. I think that Melania's entrance into the United States is shrouded in some form of controversy. The whole Einstein visa is total. She does. She does not speak five languages. She speaks two, which is better than me. Okay, I, I only speak one language, but I agree that the accent is put on. And I think that whatever. Whatever the initial story was, she is so far gone. She is such a monster. I think Melania Trump is an absolute monster right there with Ghislaine Maxwell. I don't think she gives a. About humanity, people. Any of it.
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B
None of it. Well, what was shocking to me in that video, she hardly had an accent at all. And now it's such a heavy accent. So I agree. I. It has never occurred to me that the accent was fake, but after hearing that from the caller, I kind of. I wouldn't be surprised.
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A
I. She's obviously not fake. She is from Slovenia. Her parents are here. There's no question about that. I think that she probably has that accent because I don't think she ever speaks English because nobody wants to talk to her. You know, I think she probably talks to her parents and Baron, who speaks Slovenian, and that's the end of it. That's the end of her day. So then she gets drug out to do these humiliating press conferences wherein she defends her grabbing husband, and she's saying, like, Donald is only fire. I'm just like, shut the up, all of you. I can't take it. But I think what's more interesting about the accent is why were they saying that she's from Austria? Who knows?
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B
I mean, there's a lie at the bottom of it somewhere. At least one, because these people live online.
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A
It's straight to Jeffrey Epstein. I do.
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B
I agree.
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A
I just. That's my gut. I just think she was from the Jeffrey Epstein crop. Why on. Why else would she walk out and do that batshit crazy press conference?
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B
Why? No reason.
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A
If you did not meet Donald Trump through Jeffrey Epstein, you. No, that's not how we met. Here's how we met. And you'd never repeat it again, ever. And it'd be like if all of a sudden I started saying no. I really. Angie didn't hire me to decorate her house. She really hired me to put on a baby shower for. She hired me to be a party planner, not an interior designer. You know, just lie. And I did a press conference about it and all this which tells me 100 Jeffrey Epstein introduced him. The rumor is that she slept with Epstein before she slept with Trump.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Which there's a part of me listener, I hate Melania Trump. But these young girls that are 19, 20, passed around with all these sleazy, disgusting old men. I have empathy for all of that, but I don't have empathy for Melania. I just. I just don't. She's had multiple ample opportunity to stand up for people, for justice. She's in a position where she could write a tell all and end this presidency once and for all, and she chooses to do nothing but her batshit press conferences.
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B
Yeah. And, you know, I guess in the documentary, she made a big deal about how they met. So I think there's a lot of smoke around.
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A
Totally, Matt. Totally. And I think Ghislaine and all these other people, like, no.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Jeffrey used to. Jeffrey used to bang her, and then he gave her to Trump. I mean, that's prob. That's probably what's going on. And here's the deal. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter. What matters more is not Melania's involvement in that. It's the president's involvement in that. I mean, initially, at that point, Melania was a victim.
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B
Right.
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A
That's hard to think about now, but I mean, initially, if. If that theory is true. Okay, Kylie, who's next?
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C
Okay, up next, we've got mom Molly.
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Hi, Kylie. Hi, Jennifer. Hi, Angie. My name is Molly. I work in healthcare. I work specifically with oncology and blood disorder patients. And I just, you know, first to say, wanted to say that I am a huge fan of both the podcasts, but I wanted to share and I've had it. I have had it with male patients in my clinic, really, I guess, in the world. I have had it that they don't know how to schedule their own appointments, that they don't know how to talk on the phone with people that they don't. They need to, like, check in with their wives when I ask simple questions like, you know, what are your symptoms? I've had it that they'll show up to their doctor's appointments and not know what the appointment is even for. I've had it with the. These women enabling like this man baby behavior. I. It's like, I just want to ask like, hey, like, when is this guy gonna care about his own health concerns? Like, I mean, he's here not with a small thing. So I, I've had it. I've had it with the women, you know, enabling these men. And I've had it with the men, like, you know, basically using their, you know, their sisters, their mothers, their wives, their girlfriends, their. Who whoever is doing it. I've had it with them using them as like personal assistants and care managers.
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B
It's a great one.
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Pimps. Do you care to weigh in about women enabling their men in their life?
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B
Well, as we all know, I mean, first of all, I enabled my children to a degree that is criminal. I'll start there.
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A
You really did.
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B
I mean, I just.
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C
You.
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A
I do.
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B
I feel like I'm better now. Luke. I'm the worst at. I don't know if it's just he's the baby or he manipulates me the best, but when I was married. Thank you, God. I'm not anymore. Whatever. The Catholic thing, I just cannot even tell you all the every single thing. Like I had to be drug into it. Well, I. I'm going to go to the doctor. Well, do you want to make the appointment? All that like, I. I hate it. I can't believe I did it. I fielded a thousand phone calls a day over stupid. So I mean, been there, done that spot it got it same.
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A
I'll tell you, listener, this is a story I forgot about. But everybody knows my husband Josh is a hypochondriac. And Angie's ex father in law, now deceased, also hypochondriac. Clinical psychological case study of hypochondria makes Josh look like. Yeah. So we were at this. I believe it was a T ball after party. When you have young children, you're tortured to sign them up for things like T ball. Angie's ex husband was the T ball coach of my son and her daughter's team. They were the Pirates. Her husband was nauseating, insufferable, tmi over complicated of a. Of a coach. They were like four, right? I mean like nobody is athletic. They sit down and are digging for ladybugs and the grass while the ball's in play, right? And we're talking. These are not, these are four year olds. These are not the smartest people among us, nor the most athletic. So he's acting like they're playing in the World Series, right? So we end up Going afterwards to this burger joint. And Angie and I knew, she's like, whatever you do, avoid Larry, avoid Larry, Avoid Larry. Larry was father in law. So I'm like, I knew, because he's always, like, calling 911 in the E.R. blah, blah, blah. False alarm, false alarm. And all of a sudden, Angie and I look over, and Larry has Josh Welch cornered, and he is going through a complete medical ailment from start to finish. This goes on for, like, 45 minutes. Angie and I are sitting over there eating our french fries and our cheeseburgers. I mean, literally cackling. And Josh keeps looking like, for us to, you know, come save him. And we're like, no, no, you're on your own. And I remember we left, and he was like, God damn it. You and pops saw me over there. I'm in there just in the trenches taking grenades. And y' all didn't do anything. Do you know how ailments I had to hear from this guy? I went through, like, six or seven. It's unbelievable.
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B
Unbelievable. I. I think the story was in the book. But this is a true stride. It's worth retelling. Like, everybody knew he was a hypochondriac. Like, literally, like, three or four nights a week, he went to the emergency room for shits and giggles. Like, nothing was wrong. He would just go and say something was wrong. It was the same symptoms. Okay? So we're at my mom's house for some kind of family function. We're all sitting around a big table. There's probably, like, 15 people around the table, okay? And he stands up in the middle of eating and walks out the front door. Not a word, nothing. Just stands up, walks out the front door. And I can't remember who said it, but somebody was like, what's going on with him? And I can't remember who said it. By this time, of course, Kirk's running after him. My brother says, probably headed off to the emergency room.
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A
And then Kirk walks in a few minutes later.
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B
What's going on with your dad? He goes, he's gonna go to the emergency room. It was like, you could set your watch by on Thanksgiving and Christmas. I remember, like, decorating cookies or something with the kids when they were little. And it was like, what are you doing on Thanksgiving? I was like, well, there'll be an emergency room run at some point. Blah, blah, blah, blah. And one of my friends was like, what? I was like, oh, no, no, no, no. It's like every holiday, there's an emergency room visit. And she Was like, whatever. And my other friend was like, no, that's true. It happens every time. So then like, that was like in the afternoon that night, I texted and say, hey, just got the emergency room call. And she was like, are you fucking kidding me? I was like, like, no, it's right there, right now.
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A
Yeah, yeah. I, I, I can't, I remember it. It was non stop.
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C
It was.
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A
And I think finally, like, when he did get sick and did ultimately kick the bucket, everybody was just like, okay, I feel like you've been doing this, right?
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B
Like, I mean, it was like, he's going to emergency was like, okay, let me go shopping and, you know, wash my hair. Nobody. You know, you cry wolf enough times.
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A
It's a great way to soften the blow to the actual death, though. You know, just feigning death, near death experiences for like a decade. And then when it finally happens, you're like, well, I feel like we've been kind of going through. He just finally took it over the finish line. Finally he was successful. Listener. Have you ever noticed your sheets slipping off the corners lately? Or maybe it's your pillows just don't feel supportive. I struggle with this all the time and most people actually keep their bedding way longer than they should. It slowly wears down and you didn't realize how much it was affecting your sleep until you finally replace it. And the truth is, most people think they need a new mattress. But the biggest difference usually comes from replacing what touches you every night. That's why we upgraded our bed with bowl and branch. They make everything your bed needs. I have their signature organic cotton sheets. I just ordered their pillows and this fabulous like soft blush quilt. All breathable, incredibly soft. And they actually get better over time with each wash. My sheets are better. Ever since I upgraded to bowl and branch, I'm just sleeping better. The pillows are just superior. My former pillows always had like these cricks in my neck, the bow and branch pillows. And these sheets are like butter. I'm not even waking up at all in the middle of the night. Listener, upgrade your sleep with bowl and branch and get 15 off your first order plus free shipping@bowlandbranch.com. had it with the code.
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C
Is this the husband of the woman that pumps wrote the glad you're dead card to yes, yes.
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A
Interesting one. Yes. Yes. Yeah, so I'll never forget where I was I was in the bookstore and this was before Instagram and all of this. And I was buying a travel book on Italy. It would have been the year 2005. 2006.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And pumps call. I'm bent down. Like, okay, Amalfi coast, I think I want this book. I'm bent down, I look down, my phone says, incoming call. Pumps. And it would have been one of those like flip phones, right? Like a Motorola flip phone. And I open it up and I say, hello? And she says, she's dead. And I go, who? And she goes, my mother in law. I'll talk to you later.
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B
Click.
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A
That was it. She's dead. She's dead. She's dead. That was it. That was the end of it. Very.
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B
It was informative, yet effective even.
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A
Here's what I like about us. We are so sanctimonious on this little podcast of ours talking about Melania being a sociopath. And then here we are making light of your deceased in laws. Ex in laws. Yeah. And their deaths. The hypocrisy is really rich with us, isn't it?
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B
Yeah, no, I'm a terrible person. I don't think I'm as bad as Melania, but I am not a good. I mean, I'm. I mean, I can be really shitty.
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A
Like, here's the thing I want to say in your defense. Your ex husband put you through unimaginable, unimaginable things. The gaslighting, the lying, the infidelity, all. All of it wrapped up in this godly marriage. Always. Well, that the godly marriage was such. I knew that from the jump. But what grossed me out about you and Kirk was this constant. Well, you know, she's princess. Whatever princess wants, we're gonna give it to Princess. It's like Princess Enabling syndrome. It's always just like he'd come home and I'd beat your house. He goes, what do you. What are you and Jennifer doing, Princess? What's my princess doing? I just want to go, kirk, put a sock in it. But calling her princess, and. And maybe that's just something tangible I could. Because I was so mad at him for how much he hurt you. And maybe that was just something just like. Shut up. Does it make you feel like you're not a prick and a cheater and a liar and a gaslighter? Probably princess. Yeah. But I will say this. It's not that you're a bad person. It's that when you are married to somebody and you realize, oh, I up. This is a bad choice. And I'm three kids do it right. This is, this is not like I can just take it back or I can just eat it, you know, and say, okay, that Take it as a loss. I mean, you're in this thing. It's difficult to get angry at the person with whom you have to share the house, share the mortgage, share the kids with, because you have to live with them. So then you jump to who made them, Right?
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B
Oh, yeah.
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A
Who is responsible for this? And I know with Josh, like, I went through a solid 10 years where I was just like, who invented this person? Who made this person? Oh, I did too. And it's easier to live with that. And I think it's probably one of so many listeners commenting in the comment section because, you know, it's all high times and, you know, great sex and all this. And then you get down to your. This horrible mistake you made, you know? Yeah. In, in partnering with people. Fortunately, Josh and I did the therapy and, you know, got through it all, and we're a better couple for it. But there was a time where it was rough, where I was like, I really did screw the pooch on this thing. And I hate everybody who had anything to do with the night that he and that his mother and his father had sex. I hate. I want to go to the inception of it. That's how pissed I am. That's how bad this was.
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B
Yeah. I want to rewind the clock all the way or I'd be like, what? How did these parents allow this? And I'm like, they're crazier than he is, you know?
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A
But I do the emergency room, right?
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B
We're at the emergency room, and we're doing all this crazy. And at the end of the day, when you realize you made a terrible mistake, like, I, I, I, I've never been divorced without kids, but I think that, like, I've had clients where it's like, you're divorced without kids. It's like, okay, we're gonna move on. It's not that big of a deal. But when you fucking realize that you have fucked your life up, like, so far beyond repair. Like, it is so fucked up. Like, stage five defcon fucked up, and you have three kids, Kids, little kids. Then you're like, I hate him. I hate his parents. I hate my parents. The person I hate the most in all this, it's me. Like, I it up so bad. That is a realization that it's just like, three kids. Three.
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A
I remember, I remember smoking cigs with you on my front porch. And you had so few coping skills. I was so shocked at some of the stuff you would say. He would say I wish I would have never had my kids. And I was like that's not even an option. Like you have your kids, you can't just wish that they didn't exist. But in your mind if it wasn't picket fence Jesus, you know, curated this life for me. You didn't want any of it. And then also I will say I was shocked that you would always say that you just wished that he would die all the time.
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B
Yeah, well, I mean to be fair, I, I put myself back still do situation. I feel like it solves more problem, you know what I mean? Like I'm not a good solution. But I'm just saying it was to the point that I just, I wish she would just have a wreck on the way home from work and like that I remember.
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A
See and I, this is where you and I disagree. I, I, I don't, I don't think that's helpful to anybody.
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B
No, I'm not saying it's rational but I mean obviously. But I just called you're a cold
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A
blooded killer pumps right?
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B
No, but I mean there were, that's how bad the despair death like an answer.
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A
Not like I think I, I think that it's, it's not, it's not that the despair, the way I interpreted it at the time and still do interpret it is that you were sold this bill of goods from your mom, from your church. This is what good girls get. And then you got the crack smoker hooker husband. That's who you got whose license plate said Spanky. And so then you're sitting on my front porch going this was not the contract nor the information that was presented to me when I signed up for this. Yes. Therefore I would like for him to be dead. And I wish these kids out of existence because I do not know how to deal with this other than us being the perfect family. And I think that in that regard your what some people could think sociopathic or homicidal feelings make perfect sense because you, you either had to be all perfect or non existent. That's, that was my interpretation at the time.
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B
I think that's exactly, exactly how it was. Exactly 1 million percent poor P. She
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A
really went through it.
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B
I did.
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A
You did. I remember you were hurting so bad.
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B
Look how sane and wonderful I am.
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A
Now I know you're one of America's top podcasters, which says a lot about America. None of it get me as your co host. This is really a Damning indictment on the United States of America and where we are now. Yeah, yeah. But now you're, I mean, now I have to say, you're so regarding him, you're very healthy about like that's his world. I mean, it's, it's listener to update you do. You don't want him dead any longer, do you?
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B
No, I want, I want, I hope for his success, his health and success is the best. My kids and I want that for him. I truly do.
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A
I know. I know you do. And you. You're glad that your kids exist.
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B
Most days.
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A
Most days, yeah.
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B
Yes, I am.
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A
Yeah. I know. I think you're a great mom and I think you've been, You've been, you've, you've been for him a place of. I mean, you finally put up boundaries and, you know, you've been a place that he knows he can't take his crazy to. And in many ways that's the best way to help somebody that has all of those issues.
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B
Yeah. But it took a long time and a lot of.
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A
Should we do one more callers at the end?
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C
I think that's a good place to end it.
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A
Okay. That's the end. That's all. That's all everybody gets.
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B
Does that remind you of Janet Jackson? That's the end.
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A
No. Wasn't that a video? Yes, it was in the 80s, right?
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B
Yeah.
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A
Janet, where is, where is Jan?
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B
Rhythm Nation? I think she just had a. You know, she was pro Trump. So I kind of.
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A
Are you still in denial that Michael Jackson was a pedophile?
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B
Oh, I, I just had this big conversation about this. Like I can call out everybody but Michael Jackson. It's just shows just like my ability
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A
to have con to be mag.
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B
Yeah. I mean, it's a real indictment.
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A
I thought about it the other day because you would just defend Michael Jackson all the time. And I was just like.
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B
Then I saw Leaving Neverland and I was just like.
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A
Do you believe it now?
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B
100%.
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A
100%.
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B
It's so sad.
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A
Yeah, it's really bad. Really? It's so up too because, like, I love his music, you know. Did you ever see Michael Jackson the musical? Yes.
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F
Love.
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A
So good. Yeah.
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B
Good. And I probably am going to go see. See the movie.
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A
What is it based on the musical?
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B
Well, it's April 24th. His nephew's playing Michael Jackson and it's right around like the bad tour, like a bio doc or what. The same people that made Queen or Bohemian Rhapsody are doing it. So I probably will see it, but I just Every time I listen to his music, I'm like, he is a pedophile. You're choosing to listen to a pedophile. I, I scold myself, but I don't change it.
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A
I. I mean, you know, anything from like the Jackson 5 all the way up to Thriller and, you know, beyond.
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C
Yeah, I was going to note that when I watched the Melania documentary, she a handful of times said Michael Jackson is her favorite artist. So I just think that goes hand in hand.
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A
Really.
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C
There's a whole scene in the car where she sings. She does car karaoke singing Billie Jean.
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A
What? Will you please. You just sit there and you just watch it. Okay, tell me. Okay, all right, tell me what I'm supposed to say.
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B
Billie Jean, not my lover.
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A
No, I'm not gonna sing. But in the accent. Right, but what was the statement when we said. What did she say in the.
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C
She sings.
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A
She sings with her accent.
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C
She's singing. Billy, she sound not good.
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B
I want you to do.
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A
Right. Well, I'm not. No, I'm not going to sing. I'm a bad singer. But I will say Michael Jackson is my favorite artist. I believe he's innocent of all charges. Much like my husband Donald as a student, literature history. My husband being an only fire. Such a kind. Can you believe she got $40 million for that?
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C
Jen, I think you should close out the show in Melania's accent.
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A
Listener, listener. Please subscribe. Subscribe wherever you get, wherever you get your podcast. And we will see you next Tuesday and Thursday. I'll tell you what I've had it with.
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B
I've had it with that.
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Listen up patriots, gaytriots and natriots. We have a new podcast that has dropped. It's called IHIP News. It's Monday through Friday. Every day, 15 to 20 minute hot takes on the political landscape of the United States of America. Always serves, served with a side of petty grievances.
- [63:00]
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We are on all the available platforms. Apple, Spotify, Google, whatever you get your podcast and YouTube.
- [63:06]
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Please go rate, subscribe and review so that we will chart upwards with America's greatest legal mind. Pumps, pumps. What does an eagle say? Caca. A little bit more enthusiasm. That's it.
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That's. That's.
- [63:22]
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That's the patriotic that this country needs right there.