Traditional Family Freak Show

Summary

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I've Had It – Episode Summary

Podcast: I’ve Had It
Episode Title: Traditional Family Freak Show
Date: August 6, 2026
Hosts: Angie “Pumps” Sullivan (standing in for Jennifer Welch), with guests Kylie and Ryan

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Episode Overview

This episode dives humorously and sharply into modern pet peeves and societal absurdities—ranging from movie theater etiquette and the hypocrisy of "family values" rhetoric, to billionaire insufferability, the trend of sharing locations with partners, and the dubious cultural obsession with “alpha males.” With Jennifer Welch on vacation, Pumps, Kylie, and Ryan riff with their signature wit, veering from personal anecdotes to broader cultural commentary.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Social Faux Pas: Public Whispering and Group Texts

Time: 01:25 – 06:06

• Public Whispering Woes:
  • Pumps and Kylie commiserate over friends who fail to match volume when whispering something meant to be discreet, often responding out loud and attracting unwanted attention.
  • Quote:
    • “Normally when somebody whispers… the person listening… starts whispering. But in those situations, they don’t. They immediately, like, you need to match!” – Kylie, 02:59
• Group Text Trauma:
  • Kylie recalls the horror of accidentally leaving out one person from a side text, leading to a blowup and the necessity to “just own it” when caught.
  • Ryan avoids group gossip altogether, knowing who among his friends can’t keep secrets.

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2. Movie Theater Etiquette: A Microcosm of Declining Civility

Time: 06:08 – 11:32

• Ryan’s Grievances:
  • Bemoans the decline of etiquette, citing recent experiences: obnoxious laughter, someone bringing a dog into the theater, and families letting infants cry during films.
  • Quote:
    • “It is a really good example of this societal collapse in just etiquette that is ravaging this country and probably the world.” – Ryan, 06:08
• Audience Pushback:
  • Kylie and Pumps rib Ryan for expecting peace at a primetime showing of Toy Story 5, playfully suggesting he “assumed the risk.”
• Movie Theater Outrage Story:
  • Kylie recounts a viral moment where a Spider Man screening was evacuated due to someone’s “noxious fumes.”
  • Tom Holland and Zendaya get a brief, loving mention as “gorgeous” and “adorable.”

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3. Rant of the Day: Hypocrisy of "Family Values" Politics

Time: 11:36 – 16:20

• Kylie’s Righteous Rant:
  • Lambasts politicians who tout “family values” while cutting education, free school lunches, and childcare—addressing the hypocrisy and its real impact.
  • Quotes:
    • “Shut the up about family values… when you don’t give a about kids after they’re born.” – Kylie, 12:10
    • “What is the number one family value you see this administration legislating for? … It’s always about the white male and the patriarchy.” – Kylie, 13:30
• Mocking Conservative Movements:
  • Pumps and Kylie sarcastically critique the notion of an "attack on the traditional family," identifying it as code for resisting social progress on gender and sexuality.
  • Quote:
    • “Their lives are different. Zero. Because women choose not to have children... I’m gonna tell you how you need to live your life even though it affects me. Zero.” – Kylie, 15:08

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4. The Insufferability of Billionaires: “F*ck, Marry, Kill” Edition

Time: 20:38 – 27:38

• Game Setup:
  • The crew plays “F*ck, Marry, Kill” with Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, and Jeff Bezos—emphasizing just how unappealing modern billionaires have become.
• Key Rationales:
  • Strategies involve prenups, presumed lifespans, who does less harm, and who would hate the “F” most.
  • Quote:
    • “I would marry Elon Musk. No prenup. We’re just accumulating all the wealth we can…” – Ryan, 23:28
    • “Peter Thiel… I’m gonna [bleep] him and here’s why: he’s gonna hate it.” – Kylie, 25:06

Round Two: Trump Family Edition

Time: 27:48 – 30:19

• Eric Trump, Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner—Kylie uses a “danger-to-society” metric to justify her picks: kill the most competent (Jared), marry the most harmless (Eric), and “F” Don Jr. by default.

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5. Location Sharing: Helpful or Toxic?

Time: 31:32 – 39:15

• News Story Discussion:
  • Pumps shares a report questioning whether sharing your location with a partner is “healthy” or “obsessive,” with stats showing up to 95% of couples use these apps.
• Generational Perspectives:
  • Older hosts recall pre-digital detective work (prank calls, drive-bys), while younger guests normalize frequent location sharing among friends and partners for convenience or safety.
  • The consensus: the motive matters, and constant monitoring points to toxicity.
• Quotes:
  • “If you’re having to spend a large portion of your day monitoring your partner’s whereabouts, your relationship is toxic.” – Kylie, 35:40
  • “Sometimes I’ll just screenshot and be like, where are you? What is this place? I’ve never seen you here.” – Pumps, 37:42

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6. Listener Voicemail: “Alpha Male” Nonsense

Time: 42:10 – 46:11

• Voicemail from Jennifer:
  • She furiously debunks the myth of the “alpha male”—a term popularized by a flawed wolf study.
  • Quote:
    • “The guy who did the study… has been trying for years to get people to stop doing it because it’s so stupid.” – Jennifer (voicemail), 42:19
• Panel Reaction:
  • Laughter over the way “alpha male” accurately describes insecure men posturing for dominance.
  • Kylie riffs on the proliferation of silly macho behaviors and “overcompensation for a little dick or… poor sexual performance.”

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7. Generational Slang & Pop Culture Disconnection

Time: 46:11 – 47:04

• Slang Confusion:
  • Kylie admits her daughter’s slang (“that’s cunt”—meaning good) has left her “officially over the pop culture hop,” signaling a generational divide that’s now inescapable.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Kylie: “Shut the up about family values… when you refuse free lunches for kids at school.” (12:10)
• Ryan: “It is a really good example of this societal collapse in just etiquette that is ravaging this country and probably the world.” (06:08)
• Pumps: “I just want you to have those moments… imagine if they saw you in person. They’re like, the reality is, out of the millions of people that see us on TV… they’re not seeing this in person. …When they do, it’s life-changing.” (21:25)
• Listener Jennifer: “Alpha is a flawed study… it’s a bunch of scared males who don’t know what to do… The guy who even did the study… has been trying for years to get people to stop doing it.” (42:19)

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Important Timestamps

• 01:25: Show kicks off—Kylie and Pumps share “had it” moments
• 06:08: Movie theater etiquette rant
• 11:36: Kylie’s rant on “family values” hypocrisy
• 20:38: F*ck, Marry, Kill: Billionaire edition
• 27:48: F*ck, Marry, Kill: Trump clan edition
• 31:32: Location sharing debate
• 42:10: Listener voicemail: “Alpha male” origins debunked
• 46:11: Kylie’s pop culture/slang confusion

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Episode Tone

Conversational, ranting, irreverent, highly comedic with heartfelt moments of real social critique. The hosts and guests blend personal stories with cultural shade, using salty and unfiltered language throughout.

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Summary

This episode runs the gamut from lighthearted pet peeves to passionate political critique, always punctuated by the hosts’ signature raw humor. It’s a refreshingly cathartic listen for anyone who feels beleaguered by daily annoyances or societal hypocrisy—whether it’s loud theatergoers, shameless billionaires, misguided “family values,” or the myth of the “alpha male.” All with a healthy dose of playful self-awareness and generational wit.

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Transcript

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[Kylie]

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[Pumps]

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[Kylie]

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[Kylie]

Welcome to I've had It. We have a special day. We have the lovely Kylie and Ryan and for those of you watching at home, both fantastically gorgeous. And I'm so excited to be there be with them today. Jennifer is on vacation. She will be back next week and then I'll be gone. So you'll miss this shining face. And so Kyle's Ryan, who do we want to start with? Who has their hand up first? What have you had it with Kylie?

[Pumps]

I haven't had it. Okay, so I've had it. When you're. If let's say I'm out in public, restaurant, a bar, whatever. And I'm honest, my girlfriend's gonna get the brunt of this because it's who I'm with the most. I've had it when you. When I'm like trying to talk on someone out loud.

[Kylie]

Yeah.

[Pumps]

And I'm like, hey, look over there. Or I'm Whispering. And then the other person responds, what?

[Kylie]

What?

[Jennifer (Guest)]

That's.

[Pumps]

And they look. And they look where you're pointing. And I'm like, shut up, shut up, shut up. She does this to me all the time. I think I do it as well, but they out me when I'm trying to talk public.

[Ryan]

I can hear Anna doing that.

[Kylie]

I do that all the time. Somebody will, like, whisper, like, don't look now. Which is immediate. My head jerks off my neck.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Kylie]

To look. And then here's it. I'll take it one step further. Yeah, I do it. I'm guilty. A sin. I do it. But when somebody does it, when I try to, like, do the. Don't look now. Like, I'm whispering. And they say, what? I can't hear you. What are you trying to say? Look where? And I'm just like, shut the up. Normally when somebody whispers, like, if I'm trying to whisper because I'm trying to be quiet, the person listening, whether they're trying to be quiet or not, starts whispering. But in those situations, they don't. They immediately, like, you need to match,

[Pumps]

match volume just to start so that no one's in trouble.

[Ryan]

Or you warn them multiple times, don't look, don't look. I'm going to tell you something. Don't walk. And then they still walk. That's what really.

[Pumps]

Which I think I do it, but

[Kylie]

like that I know I do a story from a football game when my youngest was playing football. So one of my favorite moms. She's a dear, dear friend. We're sitting there and I'm like, tell her this story. That is. I don't preface it by don't say anything. I just think that that's implied. You don't need to say it. I just assume she's not going to say it. And she's super sweet. It was. It was just. She was trying to be helpful. The person sits down and she immediately brings up to their face. I'm just like. So I'm sitting there next to her and I text her, I cannot believe you did that. And she was like, Well, I felt. I mean, it wasn't bad or anything. It was just like, we probably should not have been gossiping about it. I. E. I should not have been gossiping about it. But I was. And I mean, she went straight to the source with. And I was just like sitting there with egg all over my face. Somewhat like when you're talking about someone on the group text and you accidentally loop them in.

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[Kylie]

I haven't done that before and it is absolutely horrible. I side texted everybody but one person in a group text. What a I thought the one was. Then I got in the shower. So like I don't have my phone, I don't know what's happening and this thing is blowing the up. I'm getting like 50 phone calls while I'm in the shower and I'm just like, what? And I get out and I'm just like me. And I just owned it. I was just like, that was shitty. I'm an sorry for calling you excuse for it. And I'm sorry. Like you can't keep digging at that point. You just have to fucking own it.

[Ryan]

That's just why I don't participate in group messages. Avoids that problem altogether.

[Pumps]

Not that you don't gossip. You just don't do group messages because you can't not gossip.

[Kylie]

Yeah, don't sit on your high horse ride gossip.

[Ryan]

No, I gossip. I gossip. But I do have selective friends that I gossip with because I know I have friends who are big mouths and can't keep their mouth shut.

[Kylie]

There's always one or two.

[Ryan]

Yeah, I have a few.

[Pumps]

All right, Ryan, what have you had it with?

[Ryan]

I've had it with movie theater etiquette. I feel like it is a really good example of this societal collapse in just etiquette that is ravaging this country and probably the world. I went to the movies on Friday. I'm always seated next to either the person who talks the most or laughs the loudest in the movie theater. Which if you're laughing at the movie, you get a pass. At least you're enjoying it. At least you're present. But it was some really obnoxious laughing. But then in front of me, a woman had her dog on her lap. And I was just wondering when we were. When we started bringing dogs into movie

[Kylie]

theaters, when did we need emotional support at the movie theater? Like I get it on airplane, but. But why are you at the movie with your dog?

[Ryan]

Which leave the dog at home. The movie's less than two hours long. Before that, the week before. I go to the movies a lot.

[Kylie]

Love the movies.

[Ryan]

There. There was, you know, a big family with an infant, probably like a three to six month old infant. And the baby is crying throughout the entire movie. And they're going in and out, in and out of the movie theater. They're sitting the entire family. There's probably 10 of them. They're going in and out of the movie theater. They're getting up, they're switching seats to Be fair. I was watching Toy Story 5. So it was a family.

[Kylie]

Okay, wait, wait.

[Ryan]

But still

[Kylie]

you were in Toy Story 5. This is a really good movie, like I will with you until my head falls off about people bringing kids to the movie. It is unacceptable.

[Ryan]

Okay.

[Kylie]

More than one adult. One adult can stay home with the child.

[Ryan]

Okay. But this movie was at 8:39 o'. Clock, I think thought that it would be late enough that it would be more of an adult show.

[Kylie]

How old was the baby?

[Pumps]

An adult showing of Toy Story. I think that that family, I hope is on a podcast somewhere saying, why was a 30 year old man at toy store 29?

[Kylie]

Why is the 29 year old man at Toy Story? If you say you were alone, I'm gonna really be worried. Were you alone?

[Ryan]

I was not alone, no. But it is okay to go to the movie theaters alone.

[Pumps]

Pumps really quick. Didn't you just tell me a story off camera of something that's happening in the news at a Spider man movie? Speaking of movie etiquette.

[Kylie]

Yeah. Okay, so I got like a tick tock or something in a group chat that somebody at the Spider man movie because I know this because people were dressed up as Spider man and the farting and the noxious fumes were so bad they had to evacuate the movie. Which I would go to go to the next showing. If you're having the D, super bad. Like I understand you might have a blowout or whatever, but if you're going to sit there and fart, we just have to stay home. I know you're excited to see Spider man and I'm just going to go on record, I absolutely am madly in love with Tom Holland and Zendaya. I mean, I think they are first of all one of the movies I went and saw by myself that it was like, I don't really want to go to a movie, but I want popcorn. Was that movie with Robert Patson and Zendaya. It was like the drama.

[Pumps]

Yeah.

[Kylie]

I could not look at anything but her the whole time. I was like, she is so gorgeous. My eyeballs hurt. And then Tom Holland, he's just a. I just love him. Yeah, yeah, he's adorable. Yeah. So people just take a at home before you go if you have the D, don't go if you can't get a babysitter or one of the adults can't stay home. Even for Tori's story, which I'm not giving him a pass on that. I'm just saying overall, I just want

[Ryan]

to revise my statement slightly.

[Kylie]

My Problem was gonna be hard to back out of the Toy Story.

[Ryan]

My problem. My problem was not with the baby. It was more, well, my. My problem is that they brought the baby into the movie theater. But more my problem was that all the kids were running. And they're, you know, they're older kids, they're teenagers that are with them. They're. They're running in and out of the theater and they're sitting in the front two rows that are right in front of the screen. And, and even then, my qualm still lies mostly with the dog in the theater and the person talking next to me. So don't roast me. Comments.

[Kylie]

Here's, here's.

[Ryan]

They will,

[Kylie]

Ryan, you kind of deserve it. Like, I love the story. I was all in. But then when you said Toy Story 5, I'm like, didn't you kind of assume the risk just a little bit with Toy Story 5?

[Ryan]

I probably should have, but I didn't.

[Kylie]

Yeah, there's just too many. Too many kids at adult activities overall. Or make a showtime. This is the showtime to take all your kids. But again, Toy Story 5, I can't get.

[Ryan]

I retract my. I retract my statement about Toy Story 5. It was more of a stream of consciousness than anything. Right. We're on a podcast here.

[Kylie]

You know what?

[Pumps]

We need the comments, Ryan, so I appreciate it. Bumps.

[Kylie]

Do you ever had it? Okay, I do have a hat it. And it's just, it's the whole thing. Like, I could start and never ever finish about all the. I've had it with. With Mecca, but what really is getting me right now is the family value stuff like shut the up about family values. Shut the up. When you don't give a about kids after they're born. Shut the. When you bomb little girls in Iran and you don't give a Shut the up about how you stand on your Bible and you're such a great Christian and rah rah you. But you refuse free lunches for kids at school when you are gutting. When you are gutting pre kindergarten education, which the data is clear. Pre kindergarten education is a game changer for kids. Not to mention there's no universal child care. So this serves as child care for working parents. And it's important. And the fact that this administration is doing nothing but going out and making kids less safe, less smart, and less healthy, and then sits and talks about family values. It is more than I can take. I have had it. It makes me want to scream at the top of my lung and it's not even the hypocrisy of it all. It's that people believe the hypocrisy. The people that are like, oh, yeah, I vote Republican because it's family values. Shut the up. What is the number one family value you see this administration legislating for? Is it old people? Well, no. Is it kids? Well, no. Is it women? Well, no. It's always about the white male and the patriarchy. It just. I'm so sick of family values on Republican. Like, it just makes me want to bang my head against a wall. So that's why I've had it. Just had it.

[Ryan]

No notes.

[Kylie]

It's not going to change. It's. This is ongoing. There's no relief from it. I, I don't. It's not. This happened long before Trump. It's going to happen way after Trump. Like, this is their messaging. And it just, it's incensing that people actually buy this. It just, it, it is, it just, it doesn't. Crazy.

[Ryan]

It doesn't actually mean anything either because these are the same people who are, you know, cheating on their wives, who are protecting pedophiles who are doing everything that they say they're against.

[Kylie]

Right.

[Pumps]

I know someone, he's a father of like five kids and lives in Oklahoma and he sent something and he was like, yeah, I'm going to this walk for. To protect the traditional family. To protect against the attack on the traditional family. They walked like 10 miles in Oklahoma to combat it. What is the attack? What are you talking about?

[Kylie]

You have everything you want. I'll tell you what the attack is, Kylie. The attack is women in the workforce, women having their own money, gay people

[Pumps]

getting to get married.

[Kylie]

That's the attack. Even though it has nothing to do with him, it has, like, their lives are different. 0. Because of trans people. Their lives are different. 0. Because of gay people. Their lives are different. Zero. Because women choose not to have children. They're. I mean, it, it goes on and on, but it's just this. I'm gonna tell you how you need to live your life, even though it affects me. Zero. And it is, you know, all of the attacks on trans people and gay people like that is crushing. It is devastating. To face institutionalized bigotry from your government, from your pastors, from all those people. That affects their lives. It affects how they feel about themselves. The two men getting married affects somebody else's straight marriage. Absolutely none. Zero, zero, zero, zero.

[Ryan]

You know what, Kylie? I think after the 10 mile traditional family walk, is that what it was right.

[Kylie]

We probably gave each other blow jobs.

[Ryan]

I think I'm gonna marry a woman.

[Pumps]

I think it worked.

[Ryan]

I think it worked.

[Kylie]

Do you feel better about it?

[Ryan]

I just feel different. I feel a sexual attraction to women now.

[Pumps]

Yeah, yeah, it worked.

[Ryan]

Everything changed.

[Pumps]

Everything changed.

[Kylie]

I feel better. I feel like they should do a walk for guns and getting, you know, children being killed in school shootings. If they did a 10 mile walk for that, we wouldn't have them anymore. That's how stupid these people are. Which drives me bats.

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[Kylie]

here's been something I've been hanging on to forever because I feel like, as usual, okay, first of all, I've had it with Kylie and Josie. Number one. I just, I'm adding on to this. Let's hear Filmed an episode of I Hip News and I look up and I have lipstick all over my teeth, like right here. I mean, it looks like I just took the lipstick and rubbed it on my teeth and I wiped it off. My whole finger is covered with lipstick. And I'm like, kylie, you didn't tell me. Oh, I didn't notice. I think she did. I think this was on purpose. I think this was a personal attack in her pattern and practice of making Jennifer and I look as much like as possible on these channels so that when people see us in person, they always say, oh my gosh, you guys are pretty.

[Pumps]

You're welcome. You're welcome. Imagine if they saw you in person. They're like, the reality is, out of

[Kylie]

the millions of people that see us on TV or whatever, I YouTube, they're not seeing this in person. They're not going to experience.

[Pumps]

Yeah, but when they do, it's like life changing how beautiful you look in comparison.

[Kylie]

Life changing. That's. That's exactly what I was thinking.

[Pumps]

I just don't. Yeah. I just want you to have those moments.

[Kylie]

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[Kylie]

Okay, so here is. I have missed. And we haven't done it in so, so, so, so, so, so long. A Mary Kill. We. We have not done the game. Fuck Mary Kill. I want to preface it by it is a game. This is not real. We're not threatening to kill people. God knows we're not threatening to marry

[Ryan]

people, but especially these people.

[Kylie]

I was driving and I thought, there's nothing on the planet now that is more. Has become more unattractive and insufferable than billionaires. Like, you always think, if I were a billionaire, I would have the best life. I would help people. I would do cool shit. But what we are seeing is just billionaire after billionaire just being crazy, number one. And number two, just mean. Like, I used to sit around and think, like, millionaires are. Billionaires are just bored, so they go on submersibles to see the Titanic, that kind of thing. But really now we fig, you know, have learned their map, you know, behind the scenes, doing all kinds of evil. So my Mary Kill. I think this is a great one. Mary Kill. Billionaire Round. Elon Musk. Peter Thiel, Jeff Bezos. And so I. I've given this so much thought, so I've kind of cheated. So. Okay, Ryan, what's yours gonna be?

[Ryan]

Okay, so it's a really hard choice.

[Kylie]

It's so hard.

[Ryan]

It is a really hard choice. But I will say I will. I will marry Elon Musk. No prenup. You know, we're just accumulating all the wealth that we can, and then it's down to the other two. And I'm gonna say I'll Jeff Bezos, because he's just a little bit more attractive than Peter Thiel.

[Kylie]

And that is like low button hairs.

[Ryan]

It's really tough. But you're. You're putting me in this position. I guess I'll have to kill Peter Thiel, which I'm totally fine with.

[Pumps]

I think. I think I would do. I think I would marry Jeff.

[Kylie]

Okay.

[Pumps]

Okay. Because I agree, he's actually the least disgusting of the three which again, looks splitting hairs. And then I would agree. I think I would kill Peter because he's very scary. I mean, this is like, I feel like he's a murderer. Like, I feel like he is serial killer.

[Kylie]

Anti serial killer energy for sure.

[Pumps]

Yeah. So I feel like I'd be doing the world a favor there, except I

[Kylie]

don't know, maybe I kill Elon.

[Ryan]

Elon Musk.

[Pumps]

No, I can't.

[Kylie]

Okay, wait.

[Pumps]

Kill Elon because he's actually making a difference with like really direct that I see every day of getting some of these next people elected. I'll Peter Thiel. Because. Because maybe he won't like it.

[Ryan]

Yeah, that's a good one.

[Kylie]

And I'll give you my reasons why, which I think are really thought out. I mean, I've spent like the entire day at the gym thinking about this.

[Pumps]

Okay.

[Kylie]

I'm gonna marry Elon Musk. And here's why. Elon Musk, as has been reported for years, is a terrible addict that has. That is what has been reported nonstop. I don't know that personally, but based on my observations of him, I agree. However, so at some point he is going to bottom out like this. You can't do this forever. He can't take this much ketamine, this. Lose this much sleep. So I think he's a ticking time bomb. So I think there's a real possibility that he goes first out of those three. Peter Thiel. I'm gonna. And here's why. He's gonna hate it. I'm gonna hate it. We're both gonna be miserable the whole time. And so that gives me a little bit of joy. I chose Jeff Bezos to kill, and I'll tell you why. Okay, number. And Lauren Sanchez probably have the tightest prenup in the history of the world. So then you think, okay, his ex wife is doing so much good with her money. Anonymously, she's helping people, funding Meals on Wheels. She's doing all the good. It's also been reported that his kids did not go to his wedding with Lauren Sanchez. So I'm thinking that the kids probably don't agree with him politically. And so with his money, the kids and their mother's influence could do what he's done, which is so terrible, and change it for good. That those are my thoughts on it. I think they're pretty good.

[Pumps]

I. They're always good. I always imagine you have like this notebook of just like elaborate notes and thoughts, and then you scrap one idea and then.

[Kylie]

Yeah, and also on Peter, till I wouldn't want because, you know, he's running around talking about this weird Christian cult thing and the Antichrist, and so I wouldn't want anybody to put him as, like, a martyr. That would be hard for me to take.

[Pumps]

So.

[Kylie]

Yeah, that's what I do at the gym. Past the time.

[Ryan]

I think we all had different answers.

[Pumps]

Yeah, that means it's a tough one.

[Ryan]

Let us know in the comments.

[Kylie]

Yeah. Everybody, do your own again. This is a game. We're just playing the age old game.

[Pumps]

I know we should move on, but can I do, like, a rapid fire one with you? I just thought of.

[Ryan]

Yeah.

[Kylie]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Pumps]

Okay.

[Kylie]

Sure. You know, it's my favorite game.

[Pumps]

Okay. Eric Don Jr.

[Kylie]

Okay, hold on, hold on. I'm writing it down.

[Pumps]

Okay, Ryan, you pick the third one.

[Ryan]

Eric Don Jr.

[Kylie]

Jared Kushner.

[Ryan]

Jared Cushman.

[Kylie]

Yeah, that's a good one. Okay.

[Pumps]

Okay, do it.

[Kylie]

Okay, number one, you gotta kill Jared because he appears to be the smartest. Dem and Dumber are pretty much harmless. I mean, without dad. They are incompetent to the Instagram. Yes. They're corrupt. They don't have the charisma, all the things. So Jared has to go because I do believe he has deep seated convictions, albeit corrupt. And. And he's more ambitious than the other two, so he's. He's got to go. Eric Don Jr. That's a tough one. Holy. I think both of them are probably completely malleable. I think that I could browbeat either one of them into what I wanted them to do. I think that I'm gonna Pick Thack Don Jr. Even though that's repulsive. It's absolutely repulsive.

[Pumps]

I think.

[Kylie]

Mary Eric. Because I think he is so incompetent, I could literally lock him in a room and go for days and weeks and months on end, and he does not have the balls to fight for himself. I mean, he thinks his wife is a good singer.

[Pumps]

I think he has, like, trainable half of a brain cell, and that's generous.

[Kylie]

Like, I write Junior maybe has a brain cell and a half before.

[Pumps]

Yeah.

[Kylie]

The smarter of the two. And don't worry, I'm not having fun with that. But it's just, you have Sophie's Choice, and he's so much. He's so much more in your face and, oh, I'm a bro and all that.

[Pumps]

Plus, he's.

[Kylie]

Oh, God, he's friends with Andrew Tate. Okay, let me.

[Ryan]

Andrew Tate's gonna be in jail, though.

[Kylie]

Is with women. I bet.

[Ryan]

So I promise. I think you nailed it. I think I. I think I agree with, with your three.

[Kylie]

I think I have to do that.

[Ryan]

I. I mean, obviously, you know, there's no good answer, but if I had to get one, it would be that.

[Kylie]

Yeah, that's a great one. You know, keep them coming because I just love this.

[Pumps]

So we'll brainstorm. People should drop in the comments below some of your ideas and then we'll do them.

[Kylie]

It's one of my favorite things to do.

[Pumps]

It is you take it very, very seriously.

[Kylie]

I. Oh my gosh. I don't just throw out names and answers. I really.

[Pumps]

Okay, you guys, I have a news story.

[Kylie]

Okay, lay it on me.

[Pumps]

All right, this one is. Is sharing your location with your partner actually healthy? Experts explain when keeping tabs crosses the line from helpful to obsessive. And it goes on to say, According to a survey conducted by the Life360 app, 95 of American adults in a relationship use some form of location sharing technology and check the app an average of seven times a day. It's mainly young people who use them, being more accustomed to sharing their data online, and they often see it as a harmless habit and a form of emotional closeness. A recent Australian survey found that almost one in five young people between the ages of 18 and 24 think it's acceptable to track their partner whenever they want. Allowing the other person to monitor our movements and knowing that we can know where they are whenever we want can be seen as a demonstration of mutual trust. And for this reason today, it has almost become proof of a couple's solidity. And yet behind it lies a need for control that seems to characterize modern love. Quote A location sharing app can be a practical help in everyday life, or it can turn into a tool for constant monitoring that suffocates the relationship. Explain the experts at Uno Bravo, the online psychology service. A useful sign for understanding what role GPS plays in a couple is the reaction that may arise when one of the two suggests turning it off. If that request triggers anxiety, suspicion or conflict, the sharing is probably not being experienced calmly.

[Kylie]

Okay, I love this. As you know, I'm way too old to have grown up with tracking apps. So let me tell you what this is the old school. This is how I did it in college. Okay, what you did is you prank called. Are they answering? Are they not answering? And you'd star 6, 7 it or star 6, 9 it at some point because at first you didn't even have caller id, so you didn't have to worry about that. And then we would have stakeouts and drive bys. So we would just switch cars. Like we'd go to our neighbors to get a car that our boyfriends didn't know so we could drive by. So I think that having the ability to track people is a time honored tradition of nosy romantic partner. But I would have never camped out to see what somebody was doing if I didn't have a reason to not trust them. So I think fundamentally your general like Kylie, Kylie. This is beat up on Kylie episode. Kylie tracks me. Okay. That is the most boring track. I guarantee.

[Pumps]

It is boring.

[Kylie]

You said seven times a day. How often do you look at your location sharing?

[Pumps]

I. I mean I'm probably right in that. Average. I just like to like. I bet you look at what my. I like to look at what my sims are up to. All of my friends, I'll look at where they're at in Oklahoma. I'll see what they're up to here. Angie's always one of two places. It is very boring to watch you.

[Kylie]

It's so boring. Like so, yeah, the worst track on the planet. So. Okay. And here's the thing. My daughter, she tracks all her friends like so and so is here. And so somebody said they broke up with their boyfriend, but they really didn't break up with their boyfriend. So all of them are tracking her and like, oh my God. She's the night at her boyfriend's house last night. I'm like, why the fuck do you know where she is all the time? Like, that's weird. You should not be tracking your friend group. That's nobody's business. But then she made a good point and I have to give it to her on this. She said when we were in college we all tracked each other and if somebody was gone for 15 minutes, then we could find them. Which does make sense to me.

[Pumps]

That's what I was going to say. That's kind of how most of my followers have started. Because you want to make sure your friend gets home safe and right. If anything happens, you have all their locations. So yeah, there's a good side to it. But that comes with obviously a lot of lack of privacy. I just think we're used to it now too. Like, I don't even think.

[Kylie]

I think it's hard to go back. Yeah, I think it's. I'll tell you what, my oldest, the minute he got out of college, he was like, you can't track me anymore, full stop.

[Pumps]

Yeah, my parents don't have my location and they never have. I didn't because I grew up without

[Ryan]

it, my parents wouldn't even. Probably don't even know that location sharing exists on an iPhone.

[Pumps]

Yeah.

[Kylie]

So I. I think it's. Privacy matters a lot.

[Pumps]

But what is privacy anymore?

[Kylie]

Like, we don't have anybody around you. 1 million percent get to track them till the end of time. They're no longer trustworthy. Like, I completely get that, but just. I just don't think it a control issue. What I see is a control issue that can pop up in a romantic relationship. Yeah, that's kind of scares me a little bit because some people, whether they have the tracking app or not, are going to be nuts and want to know where you are, what you're doing, who you're with. And that's not fair.

[Pumps]

Yeah. And here's a great tool for them.

[Kylie]

This is the perfect. Had I had this back in the day when Jennifer and I were playing CIA agents, y' all better solve that. It would have been. We would have had nothing to do because all of our time was spent on location. Who were you were with?

[Pumps]

And.

[Kylie]

And now that, that would have been gone. So I don't know. I think probably what. What I learned the hard way is if you're having to spend a large portion of your day monitoring your partner's whereabouts, your relationship is toxic. Because I just don't get a healthy relationship now. I get like, oh, my gosh, are you still at the grocery store? And you just pick up eggs? Completely get that. But why were you at lunch for 45 minutes? You said you were gone for 30 minutes. You know, that kind of. That gets really toxic and up. And it's a slippery, slippery slope. So I don't know. Ryan, what do you think? Because you're so.

[Ryan]

I. Yeah, I. So I recently moved in with my boyfriend, Jess, and we just started sharing our locations with each other, more so out of convenience because he works from home a lot. And, you know, our hours can change every day just depending on the news. And, you know, I want to know if he's at work or at home. And he wants to know, you know, if I'm on my way home, if he's on a call, if he needs to go into a different room. But I was scrolling on TikTok about a week ago, and I came across this video that I thought was, you know, very thoughtful about what makes a healthy relationship. And they said in the video, do not share your location with someone else. And so I said to him, I was like, you know, because all the other points I thought were really smart. It wasn't some, you know, idiot on Tick Tock. I thought it was, like, actually pretty insightful. And he was like, why don't you want to share your location with me anymore?

[Pumps]

Yeah. Once you try to take it back

[Kylie]

in your generation, it's just everybody shares their location with everybody, so.

[Ryan]

Right.

[Kylie]

That you don't want to share it.

[Ryan]

And then I was like, okay, fine, you can have my location. And. And honestly, I check it. I do check it. I check not just his, but, yeah, I check all my friends because it's just like Kylie said, it's fun to see my little Sims where everyone is, what everyone's up to.

[Pumps]

Yeah. Sometimes I'll just screenshot and be like, where are you? What is this place? I've never seen you here. What are you doing?

[Kylie]

Like, why are you at. To his house?

[Pumps]

Yeah, I'm just like, where is this? I've never seen you here.

[Kylie]

You have a new boyfriend. What are you doing there?

[Pumps]

Yeah. Not saying it's healthy, but I do enjoy it.

[Kylie]

Even though there's, like. Even though 99.9% of the time when you track somebody, there's nothing juicy about it, you still like it?

[Pumps]

Yeah, I don't even think there's ever been a juicy finding for me.

[Kylie]

Like, you never found anybody that's like, they're. I was tracking my youngest. He was somewhere out of town, and. And I was like, I wonder what time he got home last night. And it tracked to government building. And I thought, that motherfucker's in jail. That's where he is. He's in jail. And they turned his phone off, and it turned out it was at the Airbnb, like, right behind some government building. But I immediately was, like, going through jail records because I do worry with the young one, because, you know, 21 is not the. The sharpest.

[Pumps]

Yeah.

[Kylie]

Age. And I do worry that, like, they're gonna get picked up or something and that he's gonna end up in jail. So, yeah, I saw that. But he's the only Emily I don't track because she's boring. Luke's the only one attracts him. Won't let me. I probably would track Sam, but I think that'd be boring. But Luke is the only interesting one, and I just want to make sure they got home okay. And it's like, I don't track it normally. It's just like, he was out of town. But that government building, it sent a shockwave through me.

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[Pumps]

Okay do we want to do a voicemail before we close your voicemail? Okay, this one is From Jennifer and not our Jennifer.

[Jennifer (Guest)]

You know what I've had it with, and I'm going to say it again. Alpha. The term alpha male alpha is a flawed study. The guy who did the study, who coined the term alpha male, did it with a bunch of wolves that didn't know each other, that were in cats captivity. It has nothing to do with anything that has to be male or masculine or taking care of anything. It's a bunch of scared males who don't know what to do. So all they do is fight each other to see who's the best. The guy who even did the study has been trying for years to get people to stop doing it because it's so stupid. So that's what I've had it with, this fucking term alpha man male. There is no real term. It's a stupid term. It's. Stop using it, God damn it.

[Pumps]

I love when they get progressively mad.

[Ryan]

I love when they educate me. I didn't know that.

[Kylie]

Yeah, I didn't know that. But she's 1 billion percent right. Never in my life. Like, I. I lived maybe 45 years on this earth and I had never heard the term alpha male. I thought alpha was the beginning of the Greek Alphabet. Like, that's. I never. And now it's like, we're big, strong men, we're alpha males, yet we have to run around and bend over for orange makeup boy. We have to go and drink creatine, we have to lift weights, and we have to do all this, you know, we have to go to UFC and WWE matches to prove how masculine we are. We have to piss all over everybody else to show how great we are. It just. She's 1 million percent right. I'm furious. I didn't think of it that.

[Pumps]

See, but I would argue that, like, to me, it's being used correctly. If they're just putting scared men, scared wolves that don't know each other, and they fight just to see who's the best because they don't know what they're doing. That's kind of exactly what I'm seeing happening with alpha males.

[Ryan]

It's actually a derogatory term, Right?

[Kylie]

Yeah, I agree.

[Pumps]

When I hear alpha. Yeah. They don't realize it, though. That's the problem.

[Ryan]

No. And if you identify as an alpha male, you're definitely not one Beta zeta. Yeah.

[Kylie]

Again, beta male was not something I ever heard of either. But now we have to have an alpha male. A beta male. But I do like the term just low T, high T. I also, I go back to. And I've been using it for a year. I think it's groundbreaking. Is overcompensating for a little dick or. And. Or poor sexual performance. You can spot it in the cars. You can spot it with how I treat people. You can. Can spot it with how they talk to their partners. Like, it is not hard to spot a piece of shit, man, because they put a poster board and say, look at me. My dicks is so big in my. I saw a bright green Corvette driven by somebody my age just yesterday, and

[Pumps]

I thought, well, teeny, teeny weenie.

[Kylie]

It never ever fails else ever. Ryan, what do you think about it? As do you. Did your friends like, your age group? You're much younger than Kylie, so.

[Ryan]

Correct.

[Pumps]

Sure.

[Kylie]

Was that, like a term they bannered around in college? I never even heard that. Had you. Did you hear it, Kylie?

[Ryan]

No, I think it. I think it's even more popular with people who are just like, slightly younger than me and much younger than Kylie. The term has, like, really come into use. I don't know. I. I never referred to people as an alpha male. I. I don't think I ever would see.

[Kylie]

I see people my age using it. Like the Fox News crowd, they're talking about alpha males all the time. But it's the young people, too, the young youngs.

[Pumps]

I think it's.

[Ryan]

They have all this slang, and I feel like maybe that's a part of it. Maybe that's misguided. But those are my.

[Kylie]

I remember when I started saying good, like bad. That's so bad. In high school, or maybe it was middle school, and my mom was like, why is it bad? It's like, no, bad means good. And now my daughter says words to me that I am just. She'll be like, oh, my God, that's cunt. And I'm just like, what? Oh, no, mom, that means you. You look pretty. And I'm just like, okay. Like, I'm so confused. I have officially reached the. Over the pop culture hop just now? No, it's been about two years. I realized it. I've been. I've been on the downhill slide. It's careening towards when you start saying, I don't know anybody who's up for any awards. You have slipped into the old person, you know? And so when a movie, I mean, I kind of know actresses because I go to the movie, but by and large, I don't know any celebrities.

[Pumps]

All right, Pumps, you want to close it out?

[Kylie]

Okay, we have to plug Jennifer's book, the best book of 2020 26. The must read must have before the midterms. Pre order Jennifer's book Not today. Fascist. The link is below in the show notes and we will see you next Tuesday and Thursday. I'll tell you what I've had it with.

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[Kylie]

I've had it with that.