I've Had It – “Triple Trumpers and Teeny Weenies”

Episode Date: August 21, 2025
Hosts: Jennifer Welch & Angie “Pumps” Sullivan
Special Guest: Dean Withers

Episode Overview

In this dynamic and spirited episode, Jennifer and Angie (aka Pumps) dive headlong into what they’ve “had it” with—ranging from MAGA politics and American healthcare to misogyny, right-wing radicalization, and the insidious power of megachurches. Joined by activist and Gen Z political commentator Dean Withers, the show explores how young men are being radicalized, the cult-like devotion of Trump supporters, and the importance of public shaming in moving social change. Featuring pointed humor, righteous indignation, and real world stories, the episode galvanizes listeners to resist fascism, support progressive youth voices, and—most importantly—fight for those left behind.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

“Triple Trumpers” & Political Denial

[00:50 – 03:02]

• Angie’s Grievance:
  She’s “had it” with former Trump supporters now expressing “buyer’s remorse.” She rails against “triple trumpers” (those who supported Trump all three elections) claiming ignorance about Trump’s record:
  “That's willful denial. Because... all you had to do was Google ‘Donald Trump businessman, six times bankruptcy, casino bankruptcies, fraud verdicts out the gazoo.’ There's no excuse not to know.” – Angie [01:36]

• Jennifer’s Take:
  Finds it stunning that Trump—whom she calls a “mid range to fair con artist”—conned so many:
  “The more shocking, more telling part... is that seventy-seven million people fell prey... when I hear him talk, he's such a blowhard, right?” – Jennifer [01:53]

• Trump likened to Cheesecake Factory—too much, not enough expertise:
  “Donald Trump is like the WWE president and he's the Cheesecake Factory president.” – Jennifer [02:43]

Healthcare System Grievances

[03:50 – 07:41]

• Jennifer’s Story:
  Shock at a $1,200 out-of-pocket bill for a routine kidney stone visit, despite insurance.
  “It is crazy that we live in the richest country in the history of the world and people will go bankrupt paying their medical bills.” – Jennifer [04:33]

• Highlights bipartisan failure and demonization of workers—politicians enjoy “gold star insurance,” while people struggle.

• Angie on Insurance Companies:
  Outrage that AI algorithms are used to deny claims, with MAGA politicians and even some corporate Democrats reinforcing this broken system.

Corporate Welfare & Union-Bashing

[09:11 – 13:38]

• Jennifer asserts America consistently bails out corporations, not workers.

• Points out hypocrisy of union leaders endorsing Trump, who undermines unions.

• The right’s myth about radical teachers' agendas—paranoia and demonization fostered by Christian MAGA culture:
  “They beat up on teachers... hardworking people that do real physical manual labor.” – Jennifer [10:44]

• Rips into billionaire CEOs for disproportionate profits and abuse of infrastructure without sufficient taxation.

Listener Feedback & Blue Dots in Red States

[14:00 – 17:16]

• “Kiki the Magic Lesbian” reads glowing five-star reviews from blue-state and Black queer listeners.

• Jennifer and Angie emphasize the power and distinctiveness of “blue dots in red states”:
  “We're a different breed of progressive, and we're going to bring the you brand to the midterms.” – Jennifer [14:48]

• Reflect on how calling out bigotry resonates—references to their viral moments and Fox News backlash:
  “The reason it hurt you... is because you know it's true.” – Jennifer [16:49]

Christian Fundamentalism & Women’s Rights under Threat

[18:35 – 23:46]

• HuffPost Story: About a woman abused in a patriarchal church, with connections to Pete Hegseth.

• Jennifer draws parallels between MAGA goals and theocratic, authoritarian repression—warning of a push for “Christian golden age” that strips women’s rights.

• The hypocrisy: So many Republican women quietly pro-choice, never expecting Roe would actually fall.

• Angie:
  “You just don't understand how bad it was for women before they could get a divorce, before they could have their own money… They're trying to take away no-fault divorce.” – Angie [23:27]

The Rise of Youth Misogyny & Social Media Algorithms

[23:46 – 24:52]

• Surveys show youngest boys are now most misogynistic, due to quick algorithmic radicalization via social media.

• Jennifer stresses importance of monitoring who young people follow:
  She’s proud her son watches progressive Hasan Piker and 20-year-old creator Dean Withers.

• Plays Dean Withers’s clip debating a MAGA supporter, deftly exposing cognitive dissonance.
  “You just said that you were a Christian... so then you wouldn't be a Christian?” – Dean Withers [26:17]

Segment: Interview with Dean Withers

[33:49 – 75:56]

Dean’s Journey & Gen Z Radicalization

• Dean explains that car and gym culture is “coded right wing” online, making it fertile ground for misogynists like Andrew Tate to fill the gap left by a perceived lack of focus on young men from the left:
  “Andrew Tate ...hops in there and he says ‘I'm going to make you feel so self-important’... That's what has opened up the door... to heightened levels of misogyny.” – Dean [35:37]

• On Breaking Out of Conservatism:
  Dean’s friend and college philosophy led him to critical thinking and eventually progressive politics.

The Megachurch/Trump Parallel

• Dean & Jennifer rip into megachurches as the “religious industrial complex” that fosters anti-intellectualism, herd mentality, and the same cult behavior exemplified by MAGA:
  “It is all happening in mega churches... trained and indoctrinated to not...think critically... That's such a mind fuck.” – Jennifer [41:30]

The Cult of MAGA

• Dean describes three types of Trump supporters: willfully ignorant, misinformed, or “willfully evil.” Most eventually “move the goalposts” when presented with evidence of Trump’s misconduct.
  “Four out of five... will take that route of MAGA is a cult. They won't even care what they said before I played the clip.” – Dean [63:48]

“Owning the Libs” as Cult Ethos

• Jennifer:
  “Do you think the thesis... is ‘owning the libs’?”

• Dean:
  “That's one of the most common themes. Absolutely.” – Dean [64:12]

• Racism also cited as a core binding factor, especially surrounding immigration.

On Public Shaming

• Dean insists public ostracization and shaming are necessary tools for social change when critical thinking fails:
  “If we socially pressure these idiots... that want to come out here and tell us how invaluable women are... then I think we’ll eventually see generational change.” – Dean [56:13]

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Jennifer: “All you had to do was give it a goo… That's what I've had it.” [01:36]
• Jennifer: “Donald Trump is like the WWE president and he's the Cheesecake Factory president.” [02:43]
• Jennifer: “When does the American worker ever get bailed out?” [09:11]
• Angie: “[Insurance companies are] looking for a way to deny your claims. And then this is what really chaps my ass.” [07:41]
• Dean Withers: “For those men who say ‘men are superior to women’—that is absolute beta... they have such little self-respect... It's a cope. It's a way to feel more important.” [54:32]
• Jennifer: “When it comes to the oppressors and when it comes to the bigots, I want to be able to say to them, fuck you.” [54:05]
• Jennifer (on Charlie Kirk): “Charlie Kirk's a pussy. I love it.” [68:36]
• Angie: “We need a debate between Charlie Kirk and Dean Withers!” [70:37]

Had It / Hit It Segment

[65:20 – 72:08]

• FaceTime in public: unanimous “had it.”
• Autocorrect: both “hit it.”
• Charlie Kirk: “I've had it with Mr. Kirk big time.” – Dean
  Story follows about Kirk refusing to debate Dean, culminating in:
  “Charlie Kirk, why are you such a titty baby?” – Jennifer [70:48]

Final Thoughts and Reflections

[75:57 – End]

• Jennifer and Angie express deep admiration for Dean Withers and reflect on the power of the next generation’s clarity and moral resolve.
• Emphasis on the importance of platforming and supporting progressive youth in the face of right-wing propaganda targeting young men.
• Final appeal: Buy their new book for tales of personal growth, mistakes, and hope.

Top Timestamps

• 00:50 – Angie’s “Triple Trumpers” Rant
• 03:50 – Jennifer’s Healthcare System Story
• 09:11 – Corporate Welfare and Unions
• 14:00 – Blue Dots in Red States & Listener Feedback
• 17:16 – Jennifer’s Viral Rant & “Owning the Libs”
• 18:35 – Christian Nationalism and Women’s Rights
• 23:46 – Youth Misogyny & Social Media Radicalization
• 33:49 – Interview with Dean Withers Begins
• 35:37 – Dean on Radicalization of Young Men
• 41:30 – Megachurches & MAGA Indoctrination
• 63:03 – MAGA Cult & Types of Supporters
• 65:20 – Had It / Hit It Segment
• 68:32 – Story: Charlie Kirk Refuses to Debate Dean
• 72:08 – Merch: “Master Debater”
• 75:43 – Closing praise for Dean Withers

Conclusion: Episode Essence

With trademark brashness and wit, Jennifer and Angie shine a spotlight on the cultural, economic, and political forces warping American public life. Their conversation with Dean Withers provides firsthand perspective on fighting rising misogyny and extremism among Gen Z, challenges listeners to reject cult thinking, and underscores the necessity of public confrontation in the fight against fascism—and, yes, teeny weenie energy.