Trump Thinks He's Hot

Summary

Podcast Summary: "Trump Thinks He's Hot"

Episode Title: Trump Thinks He's Hot
Hosts: Jennifer Welch and Angie “Pumps” Sullivan
Release Date: April 10, 2025
Podcast: I've Had It
Description: Join Jennifer Welch and Angie “Pumps” Sullivan and their special guests on “I’ve Had It” for a comedic, feel-good exploration of the things they’ve had it with!

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1. Opening Frustrations: Public Cleanliness ([01:31] - [03:07])

Jennifer Welch and Angie “Pumps” Sullivan kick off the episode by venting their frustrations about people neglecting public cleanliness. Angie expresses her irritation with individuals who leave trash behind in public venues like airports and movie theaters.

• Angie: “Why do you think you're so special? You don't have to pick up your own trash. It grosses me out.” ([01:38])
• Jennifer: Applauds Angie’s proactive approach, highlighting how she often leads the group in cleaning up during outings. “You're a trash leader.” ([02:24])

2. The Burden of Political Dialogue with MAGA Supporters ([03:07] - [06:01])

The conversation shifts to politics, with Jennifer expressing her frustration over the expectation that the left should engage in “regressive conversations” with MAGA supporters.

• Jennifer: “I don't want to sit down and have regressive conversations... we're not talking to stupid.” ([03:10] - [04:54])
• Angie: Agrees, emphasizing the irrationality and confirmation bias prevalent among MAGA adherents. “It's hard to argue rational with irrational people.” ([04:54] - [05:59])

3. Media Influence and Double Standards ([06:01] - [09:58])

The hosts discuss the impact of media outlets like Fox News on shaping MAGA supporters' beliefs, highlighting how these platforms propagate specific talking points that reinforce existing biases.

• Jennifer: Criticizes Fox News for lowering the bar and enabling misinformation. “The burden should be on people to vet their news.” ([06:16] - [08:33])
• Angie: Reflects on the economic downturn affecting Republicans, suggesting that financial hardships might prompt some to reconsider their stances. “The economy is just in a shithole tank...” ([08:33] - [09:58])

4. The MAGA Hat Challenge ([10:00] - [13:53])

In a humorous yet pointed segment, Jennifer poses a hypothetical scenario asking Angie how much she would charge to wear a MAGA hat all day while performing various tasks.

• Jennifer: Describes the challenge in detail, testing Angie’s principles against monetary gain. “How much money would it take for you to do the following?” ([10:00] - [11:14])
• Angie: Decides against participating, citing strong moral objections. “I just couldn’t do it on principle.” ([11:33] - [13:53])

5. LGBTQ+ Rights and Internalized Misogyny ([14:05] - [36:49])

The hosts delve into the intersection of LGBTQ+ rights and the MAGA movement, discussing the internalized misogyny and discrimination faced by the LGBTQ+ community within conservative circles.

• Jennifer: Expresses disdain for white Republicans who oppose LGBTQ+ rights despite their own insecurities. “They voted for a man that’s dismantling democracy...” ([36:35] - [36:40])
• Angie: Highlights the impact of internalized misogyny and the betrayal felt by LGBTQ+ individuals whose parents oppose their identities. “They are internalized misogyny...” ([35:24] - [36:35])

6. Parenting Styles and Autonomy in Gen Z ([23:20] - [27:22])

A discussion on the over-involvement of parents in their children’s lives, leading to issues like “menu anxiety” among Gen Z and a lack of autonomy.

• Jennifer: Links parental over-involvement to the inability of young people to handle discomfort and develop independence. “We’ve forgotten to prepare these kids for adulthood.” ([24:35] - [27:17])
• Angie: Criticizes "power moms" for excessively controlling their children, hindering their ability to make decisions independently. “Power moms are on steroids now...” ([24:55] - [27:22])

7. Listener Voice Memos: Financial Exploitation and Mega Churches ([27:25] - [30:50])

Listeners share their experiences with financial exploitation through social media and the influence of mega churches in perpetuating harmful ideologies.

• Matthew H.: Reports on a Facebook post soliciting money for an anniversary dinner, highlighting the hypocrisy of religious individuals asking for funds under the guise of faith. “It's unreal. This is ridiculous.” ([27:33] - [30:50])
• Jennifer: Critiques the prosperity gospel and the manipulative tactics used by mega church pastors to extract money. “It is a pyramid scheme, right? It’s a Ponzi scheme.” ([29:21] - [30:50])

8. News Snippets: Breast Milk-Flavored Ice Cream and More ([19:14] - [27:25])

A light-hearted segment covering quirky news stories, including a breast milk-flavored ice cream launch, and the hosts’ opinions on such trends.

• Jennifer: Finds the commercialization of natural bodily functions, like breastfeeding, to be excessive and awkward. “Making breastfeeding your identity... is weird.” ([22:18] - [23:20])
• Angie: Agrees, emphasizing the oddity of turning breastfeeding into a social identity. “I think it’s weird too.” ([23:05] - [23:20])

9. Merchandise and Podcast Promotions ([38:38] - [53:25])

The episode concludes with promotions for the podcast’s merchandise and upcoming ventures, interspersed with humorous commentary.

• Jennifer: Promotes their new merch through Shopify, sharing their experience as Gen Xers navigating online sales. “Upgrade your business and get the same checkout we use with Shopify.” ([38:38] - [39:43])
• Matthew: Adds a humorous voice memo from a listener praising the podcast and sharing personal anecdotes. (“Mitchell’s message”) ([39:47] - [53:25])

Notable Quotes:

• Jennifer Welch ([03:10]): “And I would say, you're goddamn right we are. I'm not going to have regressive conversations wherein I have to explain why democracy is preferable to autocracy.”
• Angie Pumps Sullivan ([05:59]): “They're just trying to be fed the confirmation bias. So I do think it's becoming harder and harder to talk to people.”
• Jennifer Welch ([08:33]): “Is there a bank account deep enough that I could do that for a full day and then ever feel good about that money. Because I would always know that was blood money and it was bullshit and I wasn't principled.”
• Angie Pumps Sullivan ([12:25]): “I’ve had it with people that don’t pick up their trash in a public setting.”
• Jennifer Welch ([23:37]): “Take care of your own baby. Be in charge of you. I'll be in charge of me.”
• Angie Pumps Sullivan ([36:39]): “Money over people, which. That's the whole thing.”

Conclusion

In "Trump Thinks He's Hot," Jennifer Welch and Angie “Pumps” Sullivan deliver a passionate and unfiltered discussion on a range of societal and political issues, from public cleanliness and parental over-involvement to the toxic influences of the MAGA movement and the challenges faced by the LGBTQ+ community. Their candid dialogue, punctuated with humorous anecdotes and sharp critiques, offers listeners a blend of comedy and critical insight into the frustrations of modern life.

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For those who haven't listened yet, this episode provides a spirited examination of contemporary social and political tensions, presented with the hosts' signature humor and candor. Whether you're frustrated with public disorganization, tired of political polarization, or interested in the dynamics of modern parenting and LGBTQ+ rights, this episode has something to resonate with.

Transcript

[Jennifer Welch]

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[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

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[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

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[Jennifer Welch]

So are we supposed to start the podcast?

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

Ready, two, three.

[Jennifer Welch]

Patriots. Gates. Patriots. Nailed it.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

I'm doing so good on that.

[Jennifer Welch]

You nailed it. Pumps. What have you had it with?

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

I've had it with people that don't pick up their trash in a public setting.

[Jennifer Welch]

Okay.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

Why does someone think that somebody else should be in charge of picking up their trash? And specifically, I mean, like, airports, basketball games, big public spaces. People just leave their trash. And I'm just like, who do you think is picking up your trash after you? Why do you think you're so special? You don't have to pick up your own trash. It grosses me out. Really. It's a huge turnoff for me.

[Jennifer Welch]

Movie theaters are another place where it's really bad. Yeah. So, I mean, when I go to the movies with Josh and the boys will all stand up and I look down and I'm like, everybody, grab your stuff. There always has to be a leader in the trash. And you're very good about that.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

I'm always picking.

[Jennifer Welch]

You're very good about, like, when there's trash, you always do a big sweep. Like, if we're all in a cart together or on a plane, you always are like, I'm going doing a trash run. Yeah.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

I just don't like a lot of trash.

[Jennifer Welch]

You're a trash leader.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

Yeah. It bugs me. And I'll tell you what else bugs me. And it's getting ready to happen because the kids are moving home. When kids just continue to throw trash in trash can and they push it down.

[Jennifer Welch]

Yes.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

Instead of just taking it out, just take it out. If it's overflowing, take it out, you stupid asshole.

[Jennifer Welch]

No, that's a big problem. I'll tell you. Josh is the ringleader of taking out the trash in my house. Like it could only be half full. And he go, he looks down, he goes, I'm just going to go ahead and take it out. Cause you know in a couple of minutes it's going to be full. So he does a preemptive strike and takes it out early.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

I like that.

[Jennifer Welch]

Yeah, I know. It's.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

Yeah, it's right up my alley.

[Jennifer Welch]

It's right up your alley. Okay. Let me tell you what I've had it with. I've had it with this idea that gets floated a lot in politics that we need to sit down and talk to the other side. Right? And here's my thing. I don't want to sit down and have regressive conversations. Like, I feel like MAGA is so regressive. Like, do I really have to sit down and say, this is why I think dictatorships are bad and get out history books. Are we there? Do I have to say it's not? Communities are not good when we don't promote women as equals and then show all the evidence. And it just seems like the burden of this always falls on the left to go sit down with the dipshits and have regressive conversations. And I think we all have to draw boundaries and say, we're not talking to stupid. And you can hear them all say, oh, look, you're talking down to them. And I would say, you're goddamn right we are. I'm not going to have regressive conversations wherein I have to explain why democracy is preferable to autocracy. It's insane. And like that. You have to explain to somebody, the countries with the best economies statistically and throughout history have the best governments. The best governments are typically democracies. It's just insane. The burden that gets put on the left, meanwhile, the right, it's like they do all of this shit, lie, make shit up with impunity. And the double standard of that drives me crazy. And I will not. I don't want to sit down with dipshits and have aggressive conversations.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

I completely agree with you. I also think when you look at all the evidence that we've accumulated over the Last at least seven or eight years. You have a situation where you can tell MAGA people, okay, you tell them that Joe Biden did something, but it was really what Donald Trump did, and they just, oh, my gosh, that's terrible. He's the worst. And then you say, oh, no, actually, Donald Trump did that. And they're like, no, I think it's fine then. So there's no rational thought. They're not tethered to reality. And it's hard to argue rational with irrational people. You also have a situation where the gaslighting, they don't want facts. They just want to be fed the confirmation bias. So I do think it's becoming harder and harder to talk to people. My only thing that I'm thinking is now that the economy is just in a shithole tank and rural Oklahomans and rural other people and people that voted for Trump are now going to feel it so intensely economically that it might open a little caveat for some intellectual conversations.

[Jennifer Welch]

Intellectual is a big word there. Pumps.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

Okay. It might open them up to looking just a little bit on the other side. But I think the first thing is you're going to have. They're going to have to say, my dear leader that I've pledged all this alliance to and undying loyalty fucked me. And I think that's going to be hard for people.

[Jennifer Welch]

I think it's going to be really hard for people. And I think that the burden should be on the citizen to go find the facts. And, you know, people that watch Fox News aren't super proud of it. At least the people that I know, they kind of deny it. But you can always tell when they watch it because they immediately spout Fox News talking points. Like if Bernie Sanders comes up, they'll say, oh, he has a vacation home. That's the first. And that's a Fox News talking point. Or back in the. When Kamala was first announced, the first talking point was, oh, she cackles and speaks in word salad. And that's a Fox News talking point. And you can always tell. But then if you ask them, oh, do you watch Fox? Oh, no, no, I watch cnn. I'm like, motherfucker, you no more watch cnn. Which is equally. Has its own set of problems, but it's not as bad a propaganda as Fox. But I think the burden should be on people to vet their news. And it's like, we've lowered the bar so low for these people, and I feel is a. We enable them. Yeah, we're going to come talk to you we're going to come try to get you to come our way. And I think we just need to keep moving along, along with progress. And I simply say to people, I believe in human rights and democracy. And most of the time the Fox viewer goes, oh, well, I do, too. And I'm like, well, your vote would tell me otherwise. If you voted for Trump, you don't believe in human rights or democracy. He said that he was going to be a dictator and you would never have to vote again. He said that. So that's antithetical to democratic ideals. And so I just, I think we have to quit enabling these people, coddling these people, trying to go their way. They voted for this. They're going to suffer the consequences of it. We're going to keep voting on your behalf because that's the kind of people we are. But on a case by case basis, I don't have a whole lot of empathy for you. And I'm going to go a little bit further. A part of me is kind of excited that some of these country club Republicans that I know are looking at their 401ks right, going, motherfucker. Because you know what? They deserve to feel that pain. The country club Republicans, the white Republicans that you and I know who, who try to make it okay to vote for Trump.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

I have to say I've thought about that same group, wondering what they're thinking, like in amongst their circles, they would never say it in front of us, but if they're talking in their circles, like, you know, because it was always, well, Trump's so good for the economy, and now if they're saying, well, he might not have been that great for the economy.

[Jennifer Welch]

Let me ask you this. Do you get a little joy on the inside thinking about it?

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

Part of me kind of does.

[Jennifer Welch]

Yeah. I do, too. Now, the rural people who have, the whole system has disappointed them. Their hourly wage has disappointed them, you know, I, I have more empathy for them. But for the educated voter that knows better, that did it anyway because they wanted to save a few thousand dollars in taxes, that's the person, when they see their 401k where I just want to be like, how's that going for you?

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

Yeah. Aren't you happy you voted for Trump? He's so good for the economy.

[Jennifer Welch]

What made you think he would be so good for the economy? I mean, he's filed bankrupts. What happens at seven times?

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

And casinos were part of that. I just always have to add that.

[Jennifer Welch]

Yeah. Okay. Welcome to I've had it.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

I'm Jennifer I'm Angie the HBIC head beaver in charge. Someone came up to me at the Thunder game and was like, oh, my gosh, you're the head Beaver. I was like, damn right I am.

[Jennifer Welch]

I love how you didn't even miss a beat with the intro. I'm Angie hbic, the head beaver in charge. Okay, I have a question I have to ask you before we go to Kylie.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

Oh, God.

[Jennifer Welch]

This is something I've been thinking about. How much money would it take for you to do the following? Okay, you start in la, at your hotel, and you have to wear a MAGA hat all day. During what I'm about to tell you, you have to wear a MAGA hat. You cannot say, I'm getting paid to do this. You have to smile at people and act like it's totally normal and that you're wearing a hat that says like, ok, see Thunder on it. Like, it's just normal. It's your team and you're wearing your team's hat. So you would have to go in an Uber and then go through lax and then you'd have to stop in Denver, switch planes, and you're going to be seated like second row of each.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

Flight, so front and center.

[Jennifer Welch]

And then you're going to fly to Atlanta and they're going to fly to Chicago, and then you're going to end at like JFK or LaGuardia. I'm talking 4 flights maga hat the entire time. You cannot, under any circumstances. So I'm getting paid for this. I hate him. I think he's a dick. And, and further, if somebody says, what the fuck's going on with your mega hat? Fuck you. You have to be like, what are you talking about? He's great.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

He's the best president ever.

[Jennifer Welch]

Yeah. How much?

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

Okay, is this over a course of like a couple days?

[Jennifer Welch]

No, it's one day. It's. You're starting at like 5, 6am you're doing two, two stops ending in New York. Coast to coast, baby. Maga Maga hat. It's going to have the 4547 on it with the flag. I mean, it's the full blown red MAGA hat.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

Here's the thing. I want to say that I just couldn't do it on principle. Like, I just don't. I just don't think I could. I really don't.

[Jennifer Welch]

You know what? Josh asked me this question like a couple weekends ago, and I was sitting there trying to come up with a number and I just thought, I just don't know. That I could do it. I don't think that I could wear that, considering I think it's a modern day swastika or a modern day clan's hood, KKK style hood. I don't think there is a bank account deep enough that I could do that for a full day and then ever feel good about that money. Because I would always know that was blood money and it was bullshit and I wasn't principled. And I think this moment requires unrelenting conviction and principle.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

Agree. The only thing, like in my head when you were talking. No, no, no, no. When you were talking about it for just an instant, like, I look at people in MAGA hats and MAGA shirts and I'm just like, I kind of want to know if they feel it. So if I had the hat on, I would just want to see like what's do most people do like I do and act like a skunk just farted when they see people with the MAGA hat or are they just oblivious to it? I've always kind of wondered, do they know?

[Jennifer Welch]

I think they're doing it provocatively. You and I were in LA Austin show, remember? And there was a gal that just parades right in young with a maga hat on. And you and Austin come out from ordering to the table. Maga hat. MAGA hat. And she. I think she's doing. I think she did it provocatively. She's in West Hollywood, gay district, gay as fuck. I think she did it to be a cunt.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

Well, and what was so funny about it is she solicited us to watch her purse while she went to the bathroom, remember?

[Jennifer Welch]

Well, as soon as I saw her with her hat on. This was during the. I put on my Harris walls camo hat.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

Yeah, you did. You did do that. But I remember she could have had like five heads and we would have been less like, oh my gosh, look.

[Matthew H.]

Look, look, look, look.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

I mean, we were freaking out, like, honestly, like something was terribly wrong with her. Which when you think about it, it is. But I kind of wonder. She had the whole MAGA look, so I don't know if she was just being provocative.

[Jennifer Welch]

No, I think she's maga, but I think there are MAGA people that are provocative about maga and then there's people that are embarrassed, right, that know better. So, I mean, there's no question she's maga. Okay, Kylie, what about you?

[Matthew H.]

I wouldn't last two seconds in public.

[Jennifer Welch]

I think it's. I. I'm telling you guys, I think the maga Movement and the Maga hats. It's kkk, it's swastika. There's just. And. And people on the right go, oh, they call us Nazis. They call us racist. Will quit doing Heil Hitlers if you're not Nazis. Right? It's real simple.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

It's just. It's not that easy.

[Jennifer Welch]

That hard.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

Yeah, it's really bad. But, yeah, I. There's a. On my drive to and from work, there's a house that has a MAGA flag and a United States flag. And I have thought about, like, every day for two weeks pulling into the driveway, knocking on the door and saying, so what do you think now? How's it going? How's your president? No, I'd probably get shot.

[Jennifer Welch]

Yeah, you'd get shot.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

But, I mean, I do have this fantasy of torturing the person.

[Jennifer Welch]

All right, Kylie, what's going on in the world? World Wide Web?

[Matthew H.]

I've got a couple reviews for you today. Up first, we've got five stars titled Spilling the Tea, not the Maga. If you're thirsty for a podcast that quenches your need for brutal honesty, I've had it. Is your oversized Stanley cup of tea, minus the MAGA aftertaste, Jennifer Welch and Angie Pump Sullivan serving up piping hot takes with the vigor of women who've seen it all and aren't afraid to spill the truth. Jennifer's alpha energy could lead a pride of alpha lesbians.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

Yeah, that's such a compliment.

[Matthew H.]

While Pump's sagging assets are as unapologetically present as their disdain for all things orange and obnoxious, they tackle life's absurdities, from the cult to overpriced tumblers to the circus of the right wing politics with a wit so sharp it could slice through the thickest of delusions. If you're ready to hydrate your soul with laughter and leave the MAGA madness parched, tune in and raise a glass. Just make sure it's not a Stanley Cup.

[Jennifer Welch]

Love it.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

That is a great one.

[Jennifer Welch]

Speaking of a pride of lesbians. So y'all know, listener that Pumps and I are really. We love Renee Stubbs, the Australian tennis player. Like, I love her, but also she bugs the out of me to follow on Instagram because she's always out doing cool shit with cool people, putting on our story. And I'm always responding like, ugh. Well, the other day she's, you know, posting. She's like, at the, you know, March Madness game, right? She's. And she's like, on courtside. Cool shit. Cool people and I respond on, you're always doing cool shit with cool people. And she responds back to me, I'm lesbian. This is what we do.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

Like owned it.

[Jennifer Welch]

Like I'm French. You know, just I'm lesbian.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

I always want to respond here. Where are you now?

[Jennifer Welch]

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[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

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[Matthew H.]

Kylie okay, this one is five stars titled My two Favorite DEI Degenerates.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

I love that.

[Matthew H.]

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[Jennifer Welch]

Yep. This is. This is something I've been privy to for a very long time because I've always had a lot of gay male friends. And I remember when the apps first came out, I was over at my friend Scotty's house, and our friend Harris was there, and they were talking about the apps, and I was like, let me see. I want to see what's on them. And they're like, yeah, this guy's married to a woman, has kids. And then we'd go and then cross reference to their Facebook page, and it's. The bio would be like, I love my wife, my kids, and Jesus, you know, and then he's on Grindr and it's just like, oh, my God. It's really, really. There's a lot of these DL men, and I think it's just so. I just think it's so. A part of all of the anti LGBTQ backlash is that there is a lot of bi curious or just flat out closet case in the MAGA movement, as evidenced by a lot of stuff that we've seen.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

Right. Well, there's just sexual frustration and not being able to be liberal with their sexuality.

[Jennifer Welch]

And I think they're so jealous of gay men that can just have shame. Free sex. Right.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

There's so much shame.

[Jennifer Welch]

They're so liberated. You know, gay men are so liberated sexually and. And live these very, you know, sexually fulfilling lives. And they've. They've done the work. They've come out of the closet, which is the bravest thing you can do. Out of the closet. Gay man is a million times brave and more masculine than any of these MAGA men. Because coming out of the closet, especially in a red state where. Where we live, it is judgment. It is lots of talks behind the back. It, you know, diabolical Christians telling you you're going to go to hell. Institutions that are set up to really demean their way of life and. And all. Also the. The gaslighting and saying it's a choice. It's so insulting.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

You can change it if you want. Conversion camp.

[Jennifer Welch]

Okay, I have some news stories that I think are going to be rather interesting. Frida, a popular baby brand, is releasing a Breast milk flavored ice cream. It's made to taste sweet, nutty, and slightly salty and includes nutrients found in real breast milk, like vitamins, healthy fats, and calcium. The ice cream will be available in nine months. Callie, is that real?

[Matthew H.]

That is real. I checked.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

People are gonna buy that. Just. I'm telling you, people think, oh, my gosh, breast milk, it's so good for you. I'll have some. I mean, I don't know what it tastes like. I don't know. I mean, if you want to drink the ice cream, swing for the fences. But people are fucking weird.

[Jennifer Welch]

Yeah, I just. Here's my thing about the breastfeeders. It's been happening for a really long time. There was this movement, like back when we were having kids, where all of a sudden they acted like it was this newly discovered way to feed a human. And in fact, it wasn't newly discovered. It's the original way to feed a human. And it just. Sometimes you can find on social media or places where somebody's entire identity is breastfeeding.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

Yes.

[Jennifer Welch]

And I think it's fucking weird as.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

I think it's weird too.

[Jennifer Welch]

I don't think breastfeeding is weird. I think making breastfeeding your identity, bullying other people to breastfeed and overtly bragging about breastfeeding is weird.

[Matthew H.]

Is.

[Jennifer Welch]

I mean, if you think about it, it's a bodily function. It would be like bragging all the time about taking a solid. It's really not that remarkable.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

I did have a couple people shame me, try to shame me with my oldest, but I wasn't breastfeeding.

[Jennifer Welch]

Oh, there's.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

It's.

[Jennifer Welch]

It's ubiquitous. And it's like, why? Why do you care?

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

Why do you care?

[Jennifer Welch]

Take care of your own baby.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

Right? Be in charge of you. I'll be in charge of me.

[Jennifer Welch]

Okay, next up, we have people who spend money on experiences rather than material possessions tend to be happier. And so here's what I have to say about this. For sure, when I go on trips, I'm happy. Like, that is a great investment. That makes me really happy. But I have to add, when I'm on the trip, I kind of like buying material things. And both of those things kind of go hand in hand for me.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

I feel like when you're on a trip, you're a little more liberated because you have more time, obviously. Obviously. And then you're just in such a great mood. You're like, oh, I'm gonna get this.

[Jennifer Welch]

Yeah.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

So you. Shopping and trips for you go together.

[Jennifer Welch]

What about You.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

I'm just not a huge buyer.

[Jennifer Welch]

No. What?

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

I do like to go on trips, but I'm also a homebody, so I'm. I can see it both ways.

[Jennifer Welch]

Okay. All right, next up, we have 86% of Gen Z suffers from menu anxiety. When dining in restaurants. With many too scared to order their own meals.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

Is that implying that somebody else is ordering their meals for them?

[Jennifer Welch]

Well, of course they are. They're mothers.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

Their mothers does that.

[Jennifer Welch]

I mean this to. This does not surprise me one bit because I have a senior in high school right now and the conversations wherein I have to say to the other parent, Romans 18. I'm going to let him figure that out. Like what time to get somewhere, what time to leave a place where to take the money. I simply am shocked at the amount of adults that are phoning me about a Roman problem. And so it doesn't surprise me one bit that the same set of women are probably sitting around ordering their kids foods. And then it further doesn't surprise me one bit that there is a crisis with young boys because they have been told and coddled on nonstop by their mothers. And the best thing we can do for our boys and girls is to teach autonomy.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

Yeah, I agree. I just think it's just really sad when you can do a study on menu anxiety. Like that's how nitty gritty we're taking it that everything has become such a pressure point that what you're ordering for lunch is anxiety inducing. The mothers are fucking nuts. I just don't think mothers used to be this crazy. I don't think when we were little and maybe we did and our moms weren't power moms, so we just didn't know it was happening. But I feel like power moms are on steroids now. I just think it used to not be that way. I don't know if it's social media, I don't know what the deal is, but it's ridiculous.

[Jennifer Welch]

No, I think it's a huge problem. I think the expectation of children and the activities, activities they're signed up for has increased for sure. I think the parents role in the kids has increased and I think some of the increase is good. I think dads being more involved in their children's lives is a positive thing. But with anything, I think sometimes it goes too far and I think we've forgotten to prepare these kids for adulthood. And I think that is the biggest problem. And I think so many parents, they think I don't want my kid to feel discomfort and they Just jump in front of their kids so that they don't feel it. When actually the best thing for that kid, as painful as it is as a parent, is that the kid has to learn how to manage discomfort.

[Matthew H.]

Right?

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

Because that's pretty much all adulthood is.

[Matthew H.]

That's.

[Jennifer Welch]

It's all it is.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

Managing discomfort.

[Jennifer Welch]

Okay, Kylie, we have voice memos today.

[Matthew H.]

We do. We have voice memos. Up first, I've got one from Matthew H. And he sent along some receipts to follow it.

[Jennifer Welch]

Okay.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

Okay.

[Hannah S.]

Hello, Jessica and Pumps, this is Matthew. A little oklahomo here in Oklahoma City with y'all. But anyways, I've got a multi level hat it that I'm sure you're going to be raging when you hear this. This guy on Facebook, the most problematic. Well second to Twitter and lie social. Most problematic social media platform platform ever posted a link to his cash app asking people for $5 to celebrate him and his wife's 11th anniversary or some. It is not our responsibility to fund your dinner outing with your wife. So I went and crept on his page and this is so on par for the Bible bell. Guess what the his bible thumping ass had in the bio? Something about loving the Lord's kingdom, blah, blah, blah. Speaking of Bible thumping, AKA wannabe Caroline Levitt, I'm going to send y'all the receipts so the people who listen to the pod on YouTube can see this. It's unreal. This is ridiculous.

[Jennifer Welch]

Okay, so what are the receipts?

[Matthew H.]

Okay, so he sent along the post on Facebook. It says never done this before. We plan on going out to dinner to celebrate 11 years of marriage and 14 years of being a couple. Dropping $5 would be awesome. Love and peace. And then he also sent along this guy's bio. It says love God, love people. The rest take care. Takes care of itself if you seek his kingdom first.

[Jennifer Welch]

Oh my God. That's just so.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

It's appalling.

[Jennifer Welch]

Embarrassing.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

It's embarrassing. Why do you think that he thinks it's not embarrassing to ask for $5 to take his wife for an anniversary dinner? A b. Why do you think he thinks anybody gives a frog's fat ass that he's taking his wife out to dinner and or that it's their anniversary? What is wrong with this person?

[Jennifer Welch]

I'll tell you what exactly what's wrong with this person? Kylie, put this the. Put the bio back up. Love God, love people. The rest takes care of itself if you seek first his kingdom. Okay, here's the issue with this guy. 100% goes to a megachurch. 100%. The mega church pastor teaches the prosperity gospel. And he probably cash apps and venmos his mega church pastor after a light little swim in the dunk tank. All right? And then he starts getting this idea, I'm going to do it, too. And somebody else at the church is doing it, and they're like, oh, my God, the power of prayer. And God, like, I put on Facebook to give me $5. And then it's a pyramid scheme, right? It's a Ponzi scheme. It is a racket to end all rackets. And I guarantee you the guy's a bad lay, 100%.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

I would even go so far as to say it's a teeny weeny peeny. I mean, here's the deal. The problem is not only this guy, it's the people that give him $5.

[Jennifer Welch]

They're all.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

They're at fault, too.

[Jennifer Welch]

It's the congregation.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

The whole lot of them.

[Jennifer Welch]

Yes, the whole lot had it. All right, who's next?

[Matthew H.]

Okay, up next, we've got Mitchell.

[Mitchell]

Hey, Booze. You know, I just want to give you a shout out because y'all are amazing. I wish that y'all had been around the whole time. I lived in Oklahoma. Y'all are such role models, and I want to be both of y'all combined when I grow, grow up. But I just want to tell you what I've had it with. I had it with the pleasantries. I'm sick and tired of hearing people say, oh, no, this Democrat said a bad, naughty word. Well, that. We've been dealing with this for years. You know, I'm an empath. So, like, I try to be a nice person. This is why I'm with the Democrat Party. You know, we love everybody, want everybody to be included, but obviously the nice guy routine isn't working for us. We need the bad cop profile to step in charge because I fucking had it. Like, all these stupid fucking names coming from the right, like the sleepy Joe, you know, negative Nancy, or, you know, whatever the fuck they want to come up with. It's so fucking juvenile. And I'm sick and tired of just, like, rolling over, turning in the other cheek, girl. I'm not religious. I'm just throwing that out there. But hypocritical for the Christians and whatever is going on. But I'm so sick and tired of being the nice guy.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

I think he's 100% right. Why do. Why do Democrats always have to be nice? Why do we have to, like you said earlier, explain everything? Why do we have to be the one that meets people halfway through because. And one thing that struck out to me, the juvenile. Until Donald Trump politicians didn't call each other names like derogatory names like Little Marco, Ron Desanctimonious, which may or may not be true. But then they get so mad, like when Jasmine Crockett makes a comment about Greg Abbott. Fucking had it.

[Jennifer Welch]

Here's pull the gloves off.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

Quit being nice.

[Jennifer Welch]

Here's the thing about maga. They think the rules that apply to everybody else don't apply to them. They bathe in hypocrisy, they bask in double standards and they can call all of these ugly names to everybody and if you look at them and say you're racist and you're a dumbass, oh what are you, a virtue signaler? You know, they have and it's just like number one, I don't even engage with these people. Step one, remove all from your life. I mean that's like the best thing you can do because this is for me, this is different than like when Mitt Romney was running against Obama. This is a completely different beast for me. And I think people that are in MAGA and MAGA politicians need to be called out and drilled and made fun of for their idiocy, for their moral duplicity. And I think we should do it with impunity. These are the people in which history is not going to be kind to. These are the people that have voted for a man that, that's dismantling democracy, that likes to pick on gay people and trans people for sports because it makes these broken Christians feel better somehow to pick on people or to, to be racist. It makes them feel superior in some way. And I think we got to start calling it out. And I, I'm going to tell you one thing I've just really had it with. When you look at black women, 90 something percent all voted one way. White women. Nope. And I've had it with these white women that are just enablers to this patriarchal system. But then they act like they're cool boss bitches when they're pedaling their multi level marketing. I'm a boss and you know, and it's just off if you, you know, if you're not gonna vote for women, then stay at home and be a trad wife. Otherwise sit down and shut the fuck up and let the real boss bitches take over. It really pisses me off. White women, not all because there's some that have really fought a good fight, but there is a group and they are Everywhere in Oklahoma City. Everywhere, everywhere. And it is just a gross double standard where they, they know what crowd they're in, they know when to, when to act like they're open minded, and then they know when they're in their Bible study. It's their safe place to be more hateful about. Minorities and pro Trump white women are a huge disappointment.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

The overwhelming majority are a huge disappointment because they are internalized misogyny, which I grew up with, so I've seen it firsthand. I get it. That's how my house was growing up. But it's just, how can you vote against your own children, whether they're boys or girls? Reproductive freedom. I mean, all this dei. I mean, hateful mean. I can't believe mothers don't want better for their children. I really can't.

[Jennifer Welch]

I can't. I'll tell you what I will never understand is how people can have a. A child that's a member of the LGBTQ+ community and look at Donald Trump and see that he tried to give a microphone a blowjob and all of the hateful, horrible shit he says and then go vote against your child. That is a level of cold black heartedness that I cannot relate to. That sociopathic. It is diabolical. It is breathtakingly selfish because at the end of the day, you're sending a message to your child. My love for you is conditional. That's what that vote says. My love for you is conditional. It's not unconditional.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

Well, and also, I think it's. They justify it because of the economics.

[Jennifer Welch]

Which is even more disgusting.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

Money over people, which. That's the whole thing.

[Jennifer Welch]

It's even more. That's even worse to say I value money. Right. More than I do you.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

But that's. I've heard that before, is what I'm saying.

[Jennifer Welch]

Yeah, I think, I think it's really. I think that it's really disgusting. And Trump has exposed a lot of these people and they can't run from it anymore, especially the triple Trumpers. And it is. I just think triple Trumpers. Fuck all of them. Fuck all the way off. If you voted for that motherfucker three times and you never thought something's not right with him, there's no help there. There is no help in, in on the economy stuff at that point. Right? Because most of these people, if they voted for him three times, know enough to know that he is bad at business and that Republicans always wreck the economy every single time. And if I hear one more white Republican say, I'm fiscally conservative. I'm going to take this computer and just bash people over the head with it because I cannot take it anymore. They justify being hateful homophobic bigots all in the name of fiscal conservatism, which is a total jet stream of bullshit. Listener as you know, Pumps and I are are barely competent Gen Xers. So when we started this podcast and you fabulous listeners recommended that we have merch, we literally did not know what to do. But thank goodness there is a company called Shopify and Shopify is often the business behind the business that can help two incompetent Gen Xers like none other than Pumps and me actually sell merch to all of you fine people.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

Shopify took the overwhelming and made it manageable and actually made it easy. It really is so user friendly.

[Jennifer Welch]

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[Matthew H.]

Okay, up next we've got Hannah S.

[G]

Hello, this is Hannah calling from Nebraska. And my I've had it today is twofold but related to each other. So I have, I have had it with the phrases playing God and God works miracles or it's a God thing. So this I've had it stems from my job. I'm a health care worker, I work in the hospital. I'm a speech therapist. I work with people who have had a stroke on their communication and cognitive skills. And I am so tired of patients and or their families at the end of their month long stay doing therapy with me every single day to get better, finally going home and improved. And they're saying oh God works miracles or they're this is such a God thing that he or she improved. No, that was my therapy and your hard work with me every single day. That was the other therapist doing a good job. That was the doctors, you know, interventions and making sure you don't have another stroke. I just, I don't get it. If everything is just pre planned for you, you might as well go home. And that brings me to my next point of playing God. God, some of these people are wild and will deny interventions or deny a medication or whatnot because they don't want to quote, unquote, play God. Okay, again, go home. If God has this pre planned, you know, life for you, you shouldn't need to be at the hospital. You don't want to play God. Also, why would God want you to have high blood pressure? Like I don't get, I just don't get it. I don't believe it. This stuff, I've had it. I know we've talked about it before, but I just thought that I would bring it up yet again. Thank you.

[Jennifer Welch]

This reminds me of when Princess had her back surgery. Princess had her back surgery and the ex husband sent a 95 contact deep message. Princess just got out of surgery. God works miracles.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

It was a miracle.

[Jennifer Welch]

Yeah. Okay, here's what I've decided. I used to say that I wanted the Facebook doctors in tents in the hospital parking lot. I would like to permanently change the permanent record on that. I'm going to relocate to it.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

That's one of my favorites. So let's see.

[Jennifer Welch]

New venue.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

Okay.

[Jennifer Welch]

Mega church parking lots. You can't even go to the hospital grounds. If you're going to be a. If you're going to cherry pick science and you're going to look at somebody like her who worked hard because of her studies and then helped her patient and they did all of this time together and then at the end very dismissively say God works miracles after she spent all of these weeks and hours doing it. You don't get to have that therapy. You need to go to the mega church Facebook hospital. Because these mega churches, this is where a lot of this anti vax stuff is going around, is in these mega churches too. And I recently was at a basketball game and this woman said to me that she was allergic to her cats. And I was like, was there anything that can be done? It was like a late in life developed allergy. And she goes, well, no, because I don't believe in any form of vaccine or shot. So he said there's nothing he can do to me. And I just thought, you know, five years ago she would have believed in that.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

Right?

[Jennifer Welch]

And now we're not believing in that. But if there's a cancer that this person gets, she's going to want to go to an oncologist, right? And she's going to want to say, do whatever you can do. If this is A curable cancer. And so I just, I, I think everybody's entitled to health, entitled to healthcare. But I think if you're gonna cherry pick when you want it, the megachurch needs to host the Facebook doctors. Right.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

If you're going to go down that row, you have to go all the way. You can't go to the hospital halfway through and say, oh, I would like the medicine.

[Jennifer Welch]

Get your rattlesnake.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

You just go all the way in. Have you seen this? I get so tickled on it when I'm scrolling on Instagram. And it'll say, has anybody noticed that all the anti vaxxers are on Ozempic? Oh, yeah. They're not going to take the vaccine because they don't know what's in it.

[Jennifer Welch]

Yeah.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

To lose weight, they'll take.

[Jennifer Welch]

Oh, I was going to tell you. And so I'll just tell you on the podcast. I was on Instagram or something last night and it had, it was Time magazine or something had like the, the West Wing floor plan.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

Okay.

[Jennifer Welch]

And so it had like, you know, like a, you know, Oval Office, Oval Office dining room, and it had everybody's offices on the first floor and on the second floor. Is that Paula White, the White House faith advisor, is the tongue talker?

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

For a thousand dollars, you can get blessings.

[Jennifer Welch]

Yeah. Yes. The grifter and the tongue talker is on the second floor of the Oval Office. And I just thought. And when you look at all of the people there, it's like, it's a crusty white people parade. And every time I see Trump on tv, you always just look behind. It's like these crusty old white people. Right. You know, you just know the minute you see them, like, if you were to walk into a party and those people were there, you'd be like, oh, I'm only staying here like two minutes. And we're out the door immediately. You, Kegel, you know, just, it's an immediate, like your body just like, I don't want to be around these crusty white people.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

Yeah, no, I can only imagine it would be depressing. I mean, we know who he, you know, he's got Laura Loomer in there. He's got the pillow guy. I mean, he, I think he and.

[Jennifer Welch]

The pillow guy broke up.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

You think the pillow guy's too crazy for Trump or did he lost all his money? So he's.

[Jennifer Welch]

I haven't seen him around the second term, but I mean, when I think.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

About, like Laura Loomer in there, Peter Navarro, I just think about, think about.

[Jennifer Welch]

The person who invites them.

[Hannah S.]

That's.

[Jennifer Welch]

That's. We. We always have to go back to that. Like, he. This is a fat ass that puts on orange makeup every single day. Swoops his hair in a little loop dee doo to cover up his, you know, bad implants or whatever it is up there.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

Failed. Bad implants.

[Jennifer Welch]

Failed. Yeah, hair implants. And, you know, like, we saw that picture of him the other day where he had his britches hiked up to his, like, just empty dork.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

What I don't get is somebody who's that vain. Why isn't he on Ozempic?

[Jennifer Welch]

You know what? That's a great question.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

I think about that every time I see him in those big, huge suits. I think you were. You've bilked the American people out of billions of dollars. Pay the 500 bucks a month and get on Ozemp.

[Jennifer Welch]

Here's something I kind of noticed. So when he was going through his felony trial, he got thin. Like, the stress was wearing on him. There was a marked weight loss. Because you and I talked about it and we pulled up images and we did a thorough investigation into the matter. I've noticed now that he's back in the Oval that he's put on a few more pounds. I think he's McDonald's ing it a little bit more. You can tell he's not as stressed anymore, right? I think he's gained. So I do think some Ozempic might be good.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

I'll tell you what, this is what Jennifer and I used to do. Like, you look at Barack Obama the day he entered the White House, the day he left the White House, the age fall. I mean, they look like shit after you're present. Like, we were worried about Kamala Harris. Like, she's so pretty and put together, she's gonna look like shit in four years. Donald Trump went into the White House. He looked the exact same when he came out of the White House. The contrast was the criminal trial. He aged a ton during that time because he gave a fuck what happened. He's the only president in the history of the world. It's like a mess before and after picture when you're the President of the United States. Not for him.

[Jennifer Welch]

No. Because he doesn't care.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

No, he doesn't care. And now it's really, really bad. You know, he's golfing and he's doing all this and that.

[Jennifer Welch]

That.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

Because he knows he's a lame duck. But, yeah, it is striking. It strikes me that he should be on Ozipic. That's the. Anyway, I don't know why I think used to tell me this. He looks in the mirror and he thinks you're hot.

[Jennifer Welch]

No, he. I think he does. I think he thinks he's like super attractive. And I'm just going to say this back to the white women. I think you see like the, all those Mar A Lago women and you see in the background when they're like the Instagram stories at Mar A Lago, I think they'd all him. I do. You do? I do. I think there is a lot of women down at Mar A Lago that just think he is the greatest thing on the planet. And would him? I do.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

Even with that smell?

[Jennifer Welch]

Yes, I do. They voted. They triple trumped it. I'm telling you. These are people that are like worship wealth. Wealthy people in capitalism, that type of white person just like worships it where they throw away all principle, all morals, all character, all decency and excuse, all of the terrible things the person does simply because they're wealthy and they're attracted to that. And I think that whole Mar A Lago thing is just like this idol worship of this completely broken man. And I just want to tell you, I really want like a moment. I wish there were like hidden cameras places because I do think there's something kind of joyful in seeing them go, oh, I'm really fucked up. That's. I know that's fucked up about.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

I know I have.

[Jennifer Welch]

I don't know what that says about me, but there's a part of me where I'm like, I, I hate that this brings this out me, because I'll vote for you. I'll vote for your right to have Social Security. I'll vote for your right if, for your gay kid to not be shamed and to have equal rights. If your daughter falls in love with your white blonde daughter, falls in love with a gorgeous black man, I'm going to fight for their right to have a mixed race marriage until the day I die. But I want desperately to see a little bit of and I told you so situation with some of these people. No, I agree and I know that's fucked up.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

It's a fantasy.

[Jennifer Welch]

I know it's a bad one listener. Do you guys feel that comment below? If you do, I think. Is that all we have for today?

[Matthew H.]

I think that's it.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

Today. Is that the end?

[Jennifer Welch]

Kylie? So nobody, nobody is wearing a MAGA hat?

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

Nobody is wearing a MAGA hat? No, I just don't think I could do it.

[Jennifer Welch]

I don't Think I could do it either. I just, to me, I feel like it would be like, how would I then look at Kylie, who's a lesbian, and look at Ana. If I did that for the day and then I looked at them, I said, well, I got paid. Paid $5 million for it. How do you, how do you. You're either 100% against fascism, racism, homophobia, it can't be bought, it can't be purchased, or you're not. To me, if you would wear it for a 24 hour period, it's no different than these women and men, these, you know, country club Republican people that know better that vote that way for their tax break. And so that's why I don't think any of us can do it.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

It's just so like you said, it's like a KKK house, that hood. Hood.

[Jennifer Welch]

No, it is. That's what I think it is. And I just want to point out something very that the KKK and maga have in common. Evangelical Christians, Mic drop, make up both in large majorities. Large majorities. Mega churchers, which is where the new Facebook hospitals are going to be. I like that At Life Church and.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

Instead of getting saline, you can just use the dunk tank. Water. Water for IVs.

[Jennifer Welch]

There you go.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

You're conserving.

[Jennifer Welch]

Yeah.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

You're conserving all kinds of water.

[Jennifer Welch]

Did you get dunked?

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

I'm sure I did. I don't remember it, but I'm sure I did. 100. There's no question. I did.

[Matthew H.]

I got dunked twice.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

Why a double dunker? They try to get rid of the lesbian.

[Matthew H.]

I got dunked, like before I was conscious.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

I like christened.

[Matthew H.]

And then I remember at church camp, I was like, yeah, I want to make this decision for me.

[Jennifer Welch]

Me. Wait, yeah. Did you go into like a lake or was it a tank?

[Matthew H.]

Mine was actually in a swimming pool when I was older. Probably like 12, 13.

[Jennifer Welch]

You know why, you know why they want to. Why they want to do away with higher education? It's not that. It's indoctrination. It's deprogramming.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

Well, and it prevents indoctrination.

[Jennifer Welch]

No, you're indoctrinated as a child field. Your religion isn't a choice, it's a default. No, I know, but, but so then you get to higher ed and you get deprogramming.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

Right.

[Jennifer Welch]

It deprograms you, which is the opposite of indoctrination. Yeah.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

And they like stupid people because they vote for him.

[Jennifer Welch]

Yeah, they do. Well, fascism does better with a dumbed down electorate, right? All right, listen. We have merch, we have a book, we have hbic.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

Tell them we will see you next Tuesday and Thursday. I'll tell you what I've had it with. Let's hear it.

[Jennifer Welch]

I've had it with that. Listen up patriots, gaytriots and natriots. We have a new podcast that has dropped. It's called IHIP News. It's Monday through Friday. Every day, 15 to 20 minute hot takes on the political landscape of the United States of America. Always served with a side of petty grievances.

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

We are on all the available platforms. Apple, Spotify, Google, whatever you get your podcasts and YouTube.

[Jennifer Welch]

Please go, rate, subscribe and review so that we will chart upwards with America's greatest legal mind. Pumps. Pumps. What does an eagle say?

[Angie Pumps Sullivan]

Caca.

[Jennifer Welch]

A little bit more enthusiasm.

[Matthew H.]

Caca.

[Jennifer Welch]

That's it. That's, that's, that's the patriotism that this country needs right there.

[H]

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