Zip It, Insurrection Barbie

Summary

Podcast Summary: I've Had It

Episode: "Zip It, Insurrection Barbie"

Date: May 12, 2026
Hosts: Jennifer Welch (“B”), Angie “Pumps” Sullivan (“C”)
Producer/Guest: Kylie (“D”)
Special Guest: Maren Morris (“E”)

Episode Overview

This comedic and sharp-tongued episode of "I've Had It" is a feel-good, rant-forward look at everything the hosts—and their audience—are fed up with. Jennifer, Angie, and their guest Maren Morris tear into a grab-bag of topics: the pitfalls of performative patriotism, hypocrisy in country music and conservative circles, purity culture and its ties to misogyny, voter suppression, the culture around LGBTQ+ rights, and so much more. Throughout, the hosts and Maren rail against MAGA politics, religious hypocrisy, and the cult of faux morality—while staying wickedly funny and defiantly open-hearted.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Everyday Annoyances — With a Twist

• Duck Invasion: Angie (Pumps) describes her grievance with ducks adopting her yard, initially feeling chosen by nature but quickly realizing the mess they've made.

  • Quote: "It was all ducks and giggles and then shit hit the fan... I am a woman of nature. Right. The animals choose me and they really just shit all over you." – Jennifer (02:24)

• Power Washing Predicament: The practical problem of cleaning up after the ducks spirals into a conversation about risk, DIY tasks, and delegating chores, with Jennifer mock-seriously advising Pumps not to attempt power washing herself.

  • "[You’re] America’s top podcaster risking her life power washing duck shit... I just see that has a disaster slip and fall all over it." – Jennifer (03:14)

2. City Life and Authenticity

• Aggressive New Yorkers vs. Southern Politeness:

  • Jennifer recounts being loudly called out on the street for walking and reading her phone, contrasting the ‘directness’ of NYC with the ‘superficial kindness’ of the Bible Belt.
  • Quote: "When in the south, in the Bible Belt, it's all superficial kindness... But I want to be abused. I want just—you know what? She had a point." – Jennifer (05:05)

• Sociopathic Song Habits:

  • Jennifer admits to compulsively singing “The roof is on fire” whenever passing a burned building, questioning whether this makes her a sociopath.
  • Quote: "I think that's the most normal thing in the world. Fire. Roof. The roof is not singing. Great song." – Angie (07:56)

• Double Bird Drama: Producer Kylie tells a surreal story involving mutual middle fingers shared with a grumpy neighbor, highlighting nonverbal urban pettiness.

  • Quote: "It was so impressive... We felt the same way about each other." – Kylie (11:17)

3. Listener Feedback: Roast or Review?

• Kylie shares biting, five-star reviews that both embrace and mock the show's chaos and “bitter” feminist tone.
  • Notable Quote: “These women have lost their youth, decency, and every last brain cell. Which makes for comedy gold...” – Read by Kylie (13:35)

4. Religion, Hypocrisy & Scandal

• Sexual Abuse in Christian Institutions:

  • Discussion of “Thank You Jesus” sign-founder Lucas Hunt’s conviction for child sexual exploitation. Hosts draw a direct line between performative public piety and deep personal flaws.
  • Quotes:
    • "The louder the Christian, the more skeletons in the closet... Every single time." – Jennifer (16:42)
    • "If you put a sign in your yard that says 'Thank you Jesus,' you're putting a freak flag out in your yard..." – Jennifer (20:44)

• Evangelical Complicity:

  • The group exposes how evangelical ‘purity culture’ not only shames women, but contributes to rape culture, victim-blaming, and patriarchal control.
  • Quote: "Purity culture asks women to control men's sexual urges... primes women to expect their boundaries to be ignored." – Jennifer reading (25:52)

5. Country Music, Politics & Progressive Voices

• Special Guest Maren Morris Joins [(38:51)]

  • Maren, identified as a progressive in a red state (from Texas, now Tennessee), discusses the roots of country music and its lost progressive tradition.
  • Quote: “Historically... my heroes were not towing this line of like faux patriotism... The last 20 years have been almost this cosplay cowboy thing.” – Maren (39:39)

• The “Cosplay Cowboy” Era:

  • Modern country is critiqued as drifting into right-wing pablum and “pandering,” losing touch with its roots in social commentary and empathy.
  • Quote: “It’s all hat, no cattle.” – Maren (78:27)

6. Gender, Identity, and Advocacy

• Purity Culture and Misogyny:

  • The hosts share personal stories of how purity culture damages consent education, sexual agency, and self-worth, particularly for women.
  • Quote: "I never knew that sex was supposed to be pleasurable for women, ever. That was never taught." – Angie (28:29)

• Dehumanization and Abortion Rights:

  • Discussion connects enforced virginity and shame to anti-abortion rhetoric, criticizing how religious culture enables both sexual abuse and female disempowerment.
  • "If a woman gets pregnant, then they know she's a dirty slut and she should be forced publicly with her pregnant belly to carry the scarlet letter..." – Jennifer (31:45)

7. Voting Rights, GOP Hypocrisy & Women Enabling Patriarchy

• Marsha Blackburn & Tennessee Politics:

  • Maren goes in on Tennessee Governor candidate and Senator Marsha Blackburn’s attacks on LGBTQ+ rights, abortion access, and voting rights.
  • "Every chance she can get is going to vote as a racist, as a homophobe... she needs some gay people in her life—she needs some honesty in her life." – Jennifer (48:27)

• Voting Suppression:

  • The show details GOP gerrymandering and disenfranchisement of black voters in Tennessee and beyond.
  • Quote: "They know historically they can never win without cheating... they are going all in to redraw these maps illegally..." – Maren (50:10, 82:29)

8. Country Music and Rebellion

• Courage, Cancel Culture & Identity:

  • Maren recounts her radicalization after witnessing resistance to progressive voices in country music (e.g., The Chicks/Beyoncé at CMA Awards), and her coming out as bi.
  • Quote: "I just don’t want, like, greed or cowardice or bigotry ever in the biography that my grandchildren read about me.” – Maren (55:54)

• LGBTQ+ Advocacy:

  • Both Maren and Jennifer share how being from the conservative South shaped their allyship, and Maren discusses embracing her own identity.
  • “My crowds at my shows... they feel safe... not freaked out about going to the parking lot and being cornered... hopefully we’ve run all the assholes out by now.” – Maren (57:24)

• Online Backlash & Reclaiming Slurs:

  • Maren tells the story of being called a “lunatic” by Tucker Carlson (64:10), turning the insult into charity merch for transgender causes.
  • Quote: “They were offended that it was funny... but we put it on a t-shirt for charity.” – Maren (63:20)

9. Had It or Hit It? (Games Segment)

(71:58 onward)

• Dating Apps: “Had it. It’s all the people in the world you were never meant to meet... some absolute demons.” – Maren (72:06)
• Met Gala: Mixed feelings—enjoys the art but hates the presence of mega-billionaires like Jeff Bezos, who symbolize wealth hoarding and union busting.
• Country Music Politics: Hits the progressives, has had it with the pandering crowd.
• Disney Adults, Tucker Carlson, and the USA:
  • Mixed takes on Disney adults, total “had it” for Tucker. Maren expresses cautious but fighting patriotism: “I want to stay and fight... I do think that the tide is turning.” (82:29)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments with Timestamps

• "Those Christian girls can be the naughtiest, the worst... Take it from me. Absolute worst." – Jennifer & Angie (01:26)
• “I like to be bossed around... Even though I'm bossy.” – Jennifer (09:05)
• “If you put a sign in your yard that says thank you Jesus, you're putting a freak flag out... a public service to people to say I am a fucking freak.” – Jennifer (20:44)
• “Purity culture teaches men they're not in charge of their sexual urges. Purity culture asks women to control men’s sexual urges...” – Jennifer (25:52)
• “It was always taught... if girls are sluts... boys that have premarital sex, that's fine and dandy, they're big masculine guys.” – Angie (28:29)
• "No, I think that's the most normal thing in the world... The roof, the roof, the roof is on fire..." – Angie & Jennifer (07:56)
• "All of the MAGA fascists can do what? Pump's off." – Opening Banter (00:51)
• "Historically...my heroes were not towing this line of like faux patriotism... it's been a huge loss of respect for country music." – Maren Morris (39:39)
• “My crowds at my shows... they feel safe... not freaked out about going to the parking lot and being cornered.” – Maren (57:24)
• “I just don’t want... bigotry ever in the biography that my grandchildren read about me.” – Maren (55:54)
• "They just bring you in and make you part of the most fun night, the most fun experience... All you have to do is not be a dick." – Jennifer (59:45)
• "They know historically they can never win without cheating..." – Maren (50:10)
• "It’s all hat, no cattle." – Maren (78:27)
• "I'll tell you what. I've had it with the Cheris. I've had it with that." – Jennifer, closing (84:50)

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Episode Tone & Style

The episode is consistently irreverent, biting, and authentic—a cathartic vent for listeners tired of hypocrisy, bigotry, and performative virtue. The hosts and Maren bring both humor and heartfelt commentary, making taboo topics accessible without ever downplaying their seriousness. The energy is rapid-fire, conversational, and cutting—delivering laughter, social criticism, and a dash of hope.

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Recommended for Listeners Who:

• Love intersectional feminist humor and don't mind strong language.
• Are sick of religious hypocrisy and performative patriotism.
• Want to hear from outspoken, progressive women (and allies) in conservative environments.
• Appreciate irreverence and candor on culture, sexuality, and politics.
• Value honest discussions about marginalized identities and the fight for justice.

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Selected Timestamps for Key Segments

• Duck Invasion/Urban Authenticity: 01:36–05:30
• Religious Hypocrisy & Sexual Abuse: 13:35–23:53
• Purity Culture & Rape Culture: 25:52–34:40
• Maren Morris Joins (Country Music Chat): 38:49 onwards
• Abortion, Voting Rights & Tennessee Politics: 45:48–51:53
• LGBTQ+ Advocacy: 55:54–64:17
• Had It or Hit It Game (Pop Culture Lightning Round): 71:58–80:28
• Patriotism & Fighting Back: 82:29–84:33

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In sum, this episode blends comedy, righteous anger, and sly celebration—offering a rousing, no-holds-barred exploration of what it means to have truly HAD IT in 2026 America.

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

So are we supposed to start the podcast?

[C]

Ready? One, two, three.

[B]

Patriots, Gay Triots, they Trio. Black Trio, Brown Trio. We love you. All of the maga fascists can do what Pumps off.

[C]

And then watch this. Oh, yes.

[B]

That is such a good one. Listener. Those of you that are on YouTube know, but in the 80s, it was a. We would do the bird, but we were like, we felt like if we did that one arm up.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

One arm down. Yeah. And then would you ever just do a knuckle so you wouldn't get in trouble?

[C]

I did both.

[B]

You know.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Those Christian girls can be the naughtiest, the worst.

[C]

Take it from me. Absolute worst.

[B]

All right, pumps, what have you had it with?

[D]

Okay.

[C]

And I realize this is a niche grievance, but I have had it with duck. I have these ducks that have adopted my front yard, which I thought was cute. When I would see them out there, I was like, oh, that's so sweet. It was a couple. And then it's a couple plus a few more males. And I just thought, I love that they've chosen my yard. And then I realized that my entire front patio, this sidewalk, is covered with duck. I just didn't realize how much ducks before. I never have that much interaction. So now I'm gonna have to go

[B]

buy a power washer and power wash

[C]

because the ducks chose my. My yard. I. I don't get it.

[B]

So it was all ducks and giggles and then hit the fan. Just high times. You felt like, I'm just here I am Mother Goose. Duck, duck, goose. I am a woman of nature. Right. The animals choose me and they really just all over you. Let me ask you this.

[C]

Everywhere. I've never seen anything like it.

[B]

As it pertains to this power washer situation, you personally are going to go buy the power washer and you personally are going to do the Power washing?

[C]

Yes. Because I've already asked everybody I know. That's like a. Like my landscaper. He doesn't have a power washer.

[B]

That's what I was about to say. Jackson, what about your little boy toy landscaper? First call, and he didn't. Johnny on the spot. He didn't offer to buy.

[C]

What. Maybe I should say, jackson, I'm going

[B]

to buy a power washer.

[C]

I need you to come power wash. I bet he would do that. That's a great idea.

[B]

Good. Yeah, I would troubleshoot that a little bit before you get out there. We can't have some, you know, America's top podcaster out there risking her life. Power washing. Duck shit. Not just. I know what a clutch you are personally, and I just see that has a disaster slip and fall all over it.

[C]

An ambulance, the whole nine.

[B]

I can. I can see it all. I kind of like anish grievance of duck shit. That's. Yeah. You know, there's. There's going to be people in the comments section that are like, the ducks chose me as well. And I'm right there with you. So here's the thing. Is it. Is it a curse when the ducks choose you?

[C]

Does it mean they don't like you?

[B]

Right.

[C]

That's what I'm wondering. Like at first, every time I drove out of my yard, I was just

[B]

like, you know what it is? What?

[E]

It's Jesus.

[B]

It's a God thing. You left the church. You left the church and then they sent the ducks to all over you.

[D]

Yeah, I googled it. It says attracting ducks symbolizes a need for emotional adaptability. Adaptability, community connection and balanced nurturing energy

[B]

that she needs those things.

[D]

That's what it sounds like to me.

[B]

I think that she does need those things.

[D]

They know she needs that.

[B]

Yeah. That is really, really nice ducks.

[C]

Really nice ducks.

[B]

Okay, let me tell you, I don't have like a major grievance, but I do have a list of things I'd like to review with the class. Number one. I was walking to my workout yesterday and I was reading something on like, on the Internet, like a juicy news article about maga, but I was looking both up and down as I'm walking. And I'm walking in a complete straight line, right? And there's this lady, she's about 65, 70, and she's. She has a little cart and she's wanting to go diagonal. And I look up from my phone and I kind of step around her. She chewed me up and spit me out. She goes, get off your phone so you won't bump into people. And I just thought, I love this woman. I love the abuse. I love the abuse on the streets. I love this direct. It's just, it's not passive aggressive. It's just aggressive. She just said it. And I just like inhaled and I exhaled the beauty of being just browbeat publicly on the streets of Manhattan. And I turned around and I said, I love you. And I just kept walking. Because here's the thing. When in the south, in the Bible Belt, it's all superficial kindness, all of it. Oh my God. Hi, how are you? Oh my God. Pardon me. Excuse me. And then the person walks over. Did you see that fucking bitch Shoulder check me. But to the face it's, oh, I'm sorry. Oh, I'm sorry I got in your way. And I, I want, I want to be abused. I want just. You know what? She had a point. I was walking and reading and that could be something she has had it with on this podcast. I've had it with people trying to multitask and read an article while walking down the street. You need to be all eyes on your surroundings. And I would take her side in that.

[C]

So I am fair criticism.

[B]

I am a violator. And she chewed me up and spit me out. And I enjoyed it. Yeah. So I guess I'm somewhat of a masochist.

[C]

Yeah, I, I, I think we've always kind of been masochists. We always went in for more when we shouldn't have. We would laugh about it.

[B]

Okay, here's another experience that I'm, that I'm kind of embarrassed to admit this out loud, but I just have got to because it's been going on for like a month now. So a building caught on fire close to my apartment. And I heard it at like 6am I heard all the sirens and blah, blah, blah, the dogs and I went on an exploratory walk later in the afternoon to investigate the situation. And sure enough, there was a building that was on fire. NY FD was working vigorously to get it down, blah, blah. So now they have like these barriers around the building. Right. Because it's like a, you know, it's a hazard to have this half burned building. So every night when I walk the dogs and I walk by the building, I always sing, the roof, the roof, the roof is on fire. We don't need no water, Let the motherfucker burn. And then I'm walking on and I'm like, that is so sociopathic that I'm, and I can't help it. And I think, okay, tomorrow I'm not going to sing. The roof is on fire when I walk by the burning building. And then every single time I do another day, I was in a taxi and we drove right by it and it went right off a med. The roof. Do you think that's fucked up?

[C]

No, I think that's the most normal thing in the world. Fire.

[B]

Roof.

[C]

The roof is not singing. Great song. Didn't you, like, dance and party to that back in the day?

[B]

Oh, yeah. I've cut a rug. Got those scissors out and cut a rug, baby. No, it was great.

[C]

Yeah. I don't think that's sociopathic at all.

[B]

Kylie, do you think it's sociopathic?

[D]

I don't. And I think that that woman on the street that you love, I think she would do the same thing. Thing. Like, I like the sociopathy. I like the, I like it.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I like, I wish people were more upfront. I, I, I don't like this feigned kindness because to me, it's, it, it's, it's so insincere. It's the most, it's almost, it's patronizing.

[C]

Yeah. And we, you and I, both people might be surprised to know, like, the Pomeranian in your life, she's super bossy and you like it. And I have a friend that is super bossy and I like it not.

[B]

Hang on, pumps, jumps into things where nobody knows what she's talking about. The Pomeranian is a nickname for a human being. It's not a, it's not a Pomeranian. It's a nickname for a human being that I know.

[C]

Right.

[B]

That I affectionately refer to as the Pomeranian. Pomeranian. Because she's little, she talks like this, but she's super bossy. And I like being bossed around. I do, too. Even though I'm bossy, I appreciate bossy people because I think I like aggressive. This is what we're dealing with right here. I don't like passive aggressive or feigned kindness. I would rather somebody go, I think that's just total than fluffery.

[C]

I agree. Yeah. I like to get bossed around. There's a girl in our college group that she bosses everybody and it was so fun. I was going to a wedding with her and I came out, she goes, you absolutely cannot wear that. And I was just like, thank you.

[B]

Yeah, it's really, that's what I turned around and changed and it was just like, great. Thank you for your honesty.

[C]

Right.

[B]

No, I completely agree. I completely agree with all of that. Welcome to I've Had It. I'm Jennifer.

[C]

I'm Angie.

[B]

This is America's top DEI podcast. This podcast comes out on Tuesdays and Thursdays. It is called I've had it, and as you can tell by the introduction, we're not super serious on this one. Every day we have another podcast called Ihip News, where we have digestible news nuggets where we bash MAGA and fight fascism three and four times a day in little short digestible clips. So make sure you're subscribed to both I've had it and Ihip News. This is the producer of I've Had It, Kylie. Hi, how are you? What have you had it with?

[D]

You know what? I actually have a story just like yours with that lady. It happened to me last night. Ana and I are sitting on our stoop trying to be cute, sitting out there with our dog. So New York, I know this, like, short round man, older man, is walking his dog and he's berating his dog out loud like, fuck you, blah, blah, blah. And I was just listening to it happen. I would watch him and he'd kind of tug it and be like, fuck you mad at the dog. I'm like, I'm not confrontational. So this was my version. He gets right past my eye line, I throw up a double bird, like, just for me, to him knowing he wasn't gonna be able to see it at the exact same time over his shoulder without looking at me. He does it right back to me. It was so impressive.

[B]

I was kind of like, wow.

[D]

We felt the same way about each other, like a hundred percent.

[B]

Several follow up questions.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

What kind of dog was this?

[D]

It was like a bigger dog. I'm not sure. Kind of a mutt.

[B]

Mixed breed?

[D]

Yeah, mixed breed.

[B]

A little bit the size of a German shepherd or smaller?

[D]

A little bit smaller, but thicker, fat, overweight.

[C]

Was it being bad?

[D]

No, it was. They were on a walk and I heard him the whole way down the street talking to his dog like this.

[B]

Did the dog seem alarmed by this?

[D]

No, I'm. It seemed used to it.

[B]

Okay. And the man, how old was the man?

[D]

I'm gonna go 60s.

[B]

Okay. And so did you get like personality disorder vibes, or do you think this is just their relationship?

[D]

Well, at first, sometimes on our street, you'll hear random yellings of people cussing out imaginary people, whatnot. So I heard it and assumed it was that. I realized it's him and his dog. So there could be something going on with the man.

[B]

Interesting.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

So he's telling the Bot like somebody, a person.

[D]

No, he was not on the phone. He was tugging the dog and yelling at it.

[B]

Can you do a dramatic reenactment of what this sounded like and what he was saying to the dog?

[E]

Yeah, he was.

[D]

You know, he'd be walking it. The dog would want to.

[B]

You be the man and sniff.

[D]

Okay. And he'd be like, fuck you. And he had an accent, so I. But I can't do it. He was like, fuck you. This motherfucking dog. This motherfucking dog. You piece of shit. I mean, like, really talking to his dog abusively.

[C]

That's not nice.

[B]

Okay, so there's no possible way he saw you giving the devil bird.

[D]

I waited and it's like he had eyes in the back of his head. I mean, he. Or he felt it or he was just already gonna flip me off, just existing. And we just did it at the exact same time. I kind of. It was really impressive, honestly.

[B]

That's incredible.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Do you. Did you. That really bothers me.

[D]

Yes. Yeah.

[B]

That verbal abuse to a dog.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

What I'm gonna do is keep an eye out because typically if they're walking their dog, I'm probably gonna see them again. They live in the area, so I'm gonna keep my eye on him.

[B]

What's going on in the world wide web?

[D]

I've got two reviews for you. I ventured out into different websites, like Amazon, different podcast hosting things instead of Apple.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

This one is five stars titled these Senile Bing bats sling a lot of hot shit. And they say this show is called I've had it, but it should really be called I've lost it. These women have lost their youth, decency, and every last brain cell. Which makes for comedy gold for those of us still in touch with reality. And then they gave you five star for performance and five stars for story.

[B]

Christopher S. Johnson, thank you so much. I think that is a real spot on. Let's see. We have lost youth, true decency 100%. And every last brain cell. Totally lost every last brain cell.

[E]

That's.

[B]

That is really. That's perfect. No notes. Absolutely no notes. Appreciate the five star, Christopher. Thank you.

[D]

Okay, this one is another five star. And they write. I expected my favorite thing about this to be the fact that they are old, raging who about everything under the sun because is what I would like to be identified as. I was pleasantly shocked, however, to discover that within the bitery is so much important conversation about feminism. It's nice to hear people that think like me, that confirm that I am not Crazy. To sum it up, this podcast is for you if you identify as a feminist.

[B]

Excellent. Excellent review. Love that.

[D]

I like all the underhanded stabs in these five star reviews.

[B]

Agree. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're very underhanded. I. Yeah, I appreciate that.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

All right, so I have some news stories I would like to review with the class. The first one is. Let's just pop up the story. The founder of the thank you Jesus yard signs pleads guilty. Let's dive into it. What did he plead guilty for? Last Wednesday, thank you Jesus. Yardside founder Lucas Timothy Hunt. Hunt pleaded guilty to a felony charge of third degree sexual exploitation of a minor in Randolph County, North Carolina. Hunt agreed to enter a plea deal and is sentenced to 36 months of supervised probation. Probation. He is now required to register as a sex offender and provide a sample of his DNA to law enforcement. Hunt was arrested in February 2025 on charges of second degree sexual exploitation of a minor after a brief investigation by the Invictus task force. Uncover covered a pornographic video of two children in his possession after receiving a tip from the national center for Missing and exploited Children. So this is again where we told you guys a long time ago, the louder the Christian, the more skeletons in the closet and somebody who wants to make a yard sign that says thank you Jesus is that is they are band aiding some inherent horrible secret and flaw every single time. It's not normal to be that overtly cultish about your religion if you're secure in it.

[C]

No, I completely agree and I've had that experience. I think I've said on this podcast before, my ex husband and I would go to the megachurch and we would sit down and this is a man that was fucking everything that walked as long as they were a sex worker. And he would sit and point out in the auditorium who was around on their wives. Well, nobody would do that. You wouldn't do that unless you're the

[B]

worst of the worst.

[C]

Of course I didn't know it at the time, but then after that I was so that is true. 10 times out of 10, if you have to tell me how godly your family is, I immediately know there are some deep dark secrets you're trying to cover up.

[B]

And the co create co creator and board member Connie Frazier said in a statement, thank you. Jesus has always been about more than one person. Although we cannot comment on the criminal charges against Lucas Hunt, we can share that he blessed thousands of people through the thank you Jesus signs. That is pretty disturbing but pretty much on on script like There is a senator in Oklahoma, James Lankford, and he's this big Bible thumper, big maga thumper. And he's the little ginger senator you all might see from time to time. And he was a worker at one of these Jesus summer Jesus camps where people send their kids. And there was an active pedophile, as often is in these religious circles. And there's allegations that he knew about this. I don't know if he did or not, but is super dismissive of it. And so it's either. The problem with this isn't just Lucas here. There is a culture of people within the church that help cover up, normalize, and accept this. In her statement, she doesn't say anything about the victims. She doesn't say anything about, like, where we will never be affiliated with Lucas again. She says that he blessed thousands of people.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Through the thank you Jesus sign. She doesn't talk about the betrayal or anything like that. Because within this, there's always the predators and then just as insidious, the predator protectors. And then you can now blow this up on a national scale and you have the President of the United States and then all of these pedophile protectors. Everybody's cabinet is in the Epstein files, and there's a whole culture of people who still support him. So Trump is shedding support with everybody except for one group, white evangelical Christians. And the more you dive into white evangelical Christians. Say it with me. White evangelical maga culture is an anti family, pro child molestation death cult. They are.

[C]

They all.

[B]

There's always a culture of somebody sexually assaulting and, or raping kids, and then a culture of people who forgive it, look the other way, pick up the rug, sweep it under. And that's why Trump is able to still operate with impunity in this country.

[C]

You're absolutely right.

[E]

It.

[C]

And it happens on a local level and then it becomes national. And so it's generational. Like, the person going to church, like, for me, wasn't a child sex thing that I knew of, but everybody knew the pastor was fucking around on his wife. He got in front of the congregation, he said, I was sorry. Everybody just went on like it was normal and everything was fine. And that's. And so that's what happens with these little kids. It happens to boys and girls and nobody fights for them. It's really disturbing. And honestly, I'm disturbed about that statement. Like, she needs to be shit canned, too. He's blessed so many people. Fuck off.

[B]

Yeah. And just here's the thing, too like if you put a sign in your yard that says thank you Jesus, you think you're being such a good Christian, but the truth is you're putting a freak flag out in your yard and you're providing a public service to people to say I am a fucking freak. I have a lot of dirty ass shit in my closet. But if I put this sign in the yard, you'll think I'm a really good Christian and you'll think I'm a good person and nobody's buying into it. Nobody. And here's the thing too. I've told you all this forever. Anybody in their bio that has the Christian flag or a Bible verse, run for your life. And I'll give you a prime example. There's this guy named Matt Schlapp. Matt Schlapp is high up in cpac, this conservative trump thumper organization that goes over to Hungary and they take all, they do all this Project 2025 shit. Well, Matt Schlapp allegedly gets all liquored up and he starts grabbing the balls and penises of the co attendees of this conservative. It's like Ted Cruz think tank shit, right? That's how gross it is. So Matt Schlapp likes to get all and grab testicles and, and he sexually assaults his fellow conservatives and a couple of them have whistleblown like hey, Matt Schlapp is sexually assaulting me. So this is like MAGA on maga crime and then MAGA on maga reporting, right? Matt Schlapp's wife is named Mercedes Schlapp. And Mercedes Schlapp. Kylie, pull up her Twitter bio. Mercedes Schlapp is a journalist for Newsmax. And when I say journalist, I'm not serious about that. She's like the on air narcissistic talent of Newsmax. And Mercedes Schlapp is married to the grabber Matt Schlapp. So I clicked on her profile the other day because I keep thinking, when is Matt Schlapp going to get kicked out of cpac? Here we go. Mercedes Schlap. Faith, family, country, freedom. Ephesians 6:11. Host of CPAC Now America Uncanceled, former White House strategic senior advisor for former president. What I would appreciate, Mercedes Schlap is if you put wife of unauthorized cock grabber, prolific cock grabber. Match Slap. I would just appreciate the honesty. Just like the lady in the street with me today. Get off your phone. You know, just say my, my husband likes to grab unauthorized. And I Also read Ephesians 6:11, you know, so off. I'm crazy. My name's Mercedes Schlap. And after my husband grabs, we read. We read Ephesians together as a family. And then he leaves and he goes to Hungary again. And then he starts gragging, grabbing all over again. I don't know what's going on. I've asked God to fix it multiple times. It only gets worse.

[C]

No, Jennifer, stop. What you have to do is rededicate yourself.

[B]

That's the resave.

[C]

Re. Save, re Redo, Re. Baptize.

[B]

Did you ever re save or re. Baptize?

[C]

Huh?

[B]

Did you ever. Did you ever do a re. Save, re baptize? I did not. Really?

[C]

No, I never did. You know, I was only eight years old when I did it the first time. You would think I would have done

[B]

it again, but I never did. This is, this is the inherent problem with, with evangelical Christianity. The burden is put on an 8 year old right to dedicate their life to a religion. And then nobody ever comes back and checks in. Nobody ever does. There's no oversight in this. It's a total racket. Some six year old, some eight year old's like, yeah, I accept Jesus as my Lord and personal savior. And then they go on like Matt Schlapp and they're grabbing Cox. Unauthorized sexually assaulting people. And Mercedes Schlab, you know, is helping him cover. And this thank you, Jesus yard guy. Did anybody ever go back and do a check in? Hey, how's it going? You got saved at 8. What's going on since then? How often are you reading Ephesians? Huh?

[C]

What have you been up to since then? And maybe do little phone searches, a little Google history reveal. We might, we might need that

[B]

to this day. I want the Google search history of Ted Cruz.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Lindsey Graham. Okay. Alito. You know, that is some crazy ass Samuel Alito's Google search history, his pornhub history, Josh Hawley. I actually already know what Josh Holly's is.

[C]

Right. You know, if you only had three, you don't want to waste one on

[B]

Josh Pretty, Pretty boy. Gay porn. I mean, we all know exactly what that is.

[C]

Rivalry on repeat.

[B]

Totally. Little Moses, Mike Grinder, we already know what that is. He considers Magic Mike porn. So. All right, I have. In this same genre of Christian, I have another story that you're gonna just eat up pumps. Okay? Pop this up eight ways. Purity culture is a primer for rape culture. Purity culture teaches men they're not in charge of their sexual urges. Purity culture teaches male entitlement to women's bodies. Purity culture asks women to control men's sexual urges. Purity Culture primes women to expect their boundaries to be ignored. Purity culture teaches women that sexual violence is their fault. Purity culture teaches that girls and women who have sexual experiences are damaged goods and not worth protecting. Purity culture teaches women that when they get married, they should be available to meet all their husband's sexual needs while telling her that her sexual needs are non existent, slash not important. And I think that's the end. And so pumps. We have spoken about this broadly, but I think that this is a huge problem right now because we have this rise of toxic masculinity and these toxic men are trying to demean and diminish women in the most misogynistic way. And I remember growing up around all these Bible thumpers and it was always fascinating to me that they had this religion that should be kind of like this guide to help them through life. Like, here are things good things to do, here are bad things to do. You know, here are ways to manage conflict resolution. The number one focus that all of my friends had was remaining virgins. Absolutely. Of course, they all lost their virginity before me. The atheist did. I mean, they were like, they were going out like seventh, eighth grade, that. But up until then, I remember before any of us had had our periods, I'm going to be a virgin until I'm married. And I remember just thinking, like, what? I'd have to go home and ask my mom. I think it's weird that they're having these detailed conversations with their kids about sex a lot.

[C]

All of, all of that stuff is absolutely true. I mean, here's the thing. I. I never even remotely knew the word consent as it related to sex until I was like an adult. Like, I did not. It was never explained to me what consent was, what boundaries of sex were. I was always taught, if girls, if girls are sluts, if they have sex and boys that have premarital sex, that's fine and dandy, they're big masculine guys. I mean, it's, it's so disturbing and scary when I look back on it, that it was just a vacuum of victim shaming, victim blaming. Still to this day you'll hear people say, well, what was she wearing when she was sexually attacked? Why does it fucking matter? It shouldn't matter. The victim shaming. And I see it, you know, in court cases too, but I think it really has a life in these religious homes where women. I never knew that sex was supposed to be pleasurable for women, ever. I did not. That was never taught. It was never, it was never brought up. So all of this I completely relate to.

[B]

I remember when we were younger. I remember when our kids were really little, you were very, like, opposed to sex. And we were all married. And I remember you would leave and my friend, like, our friend Betsy would say, you like having sex, don't you? I was like, yeah, I do. They're like, well, I mean, pumps clearly doesn't. I remember it's always like, I don't want to have to fuck him. I mean, of course, you know, I understand he's married too, part of that person. But I mean, it was. It was a. I mean, you could tell it was like kind of ingrained into you. I have another offshoot of this that I've thought about for a long time. And in this purity culture, I do believe it, it bears out a lot of rape culture. I think a lot of rape culture happens in purity culture because nobody knows. These men don't know how to seek consent. The women don't know how to offer consent or draw boundaries. And they have all of these hormones that are perfectly normal. It's perfectly normal to want to make out and grab titties and grab penises and explore. It's perfectly a normal thing. It's perfectly normal for boys to masturbate, for girls to masturbate in this culture. They're told, no, it's dirty, it's naughty, it's nasty, it's Satan, Beelzebub, the devil. You know, they really think it's like this devilish thing in this purity culture is also this pro life culture. And I've long felt that the pro life culture is so embedded into white evangelical Christianity, because, number one, white evangelical, white evangelical Christianity puts this focus on Mary. Like, Mary couldn't have given birth to this great guy, Jesus, if she were dirty and had sex. So she had to be a virgin. And then all of these boys are told all of their lives can't masturbate. That's nasty. That's from the devil. You know, you can't lust after girls. That's nasty. That's from the devil. Of course they're lusting after girls. Of course they're beating off. It's perfectly normal. And so they start hating the object of their desire. And the object of their desire is a woman. So if a woman gets pregnant, then they know she's a dirty slut and she should be forced publicly with her pregnant belly to carry the scarlet letter, if you will, this dirty slut in the womb and then be an unmarried woman. So we all know that she's the Type of woman you don't marry. She's the slut. And a lot of people in this purity culture think of women in terms like this. I remember I had a conversation with your ex husband one time, and he was talking about strippers or something really disturbing. And I was like, that's so disgusting. Like, you know, you have a daughter. He goes, oh, no, no, my daughter would never be like this. These are different types of girls.

[C]

Right there. It is right there.

[B]

And they're able to dehumanize groups of people and groups of women. These are women we will marry. These are good women, and these are the women that we fuck. And if any of these women that we fuck get pregnant, tough titties, you're going to have to carry that scarlet letter, the form of a human being forever. And they take away their autonomy. Because it all comes down to the fact that this religion. Why. Why did Mary have to be a virgin? Because there is misogyny baked into it. Absolutely. That if she had had sex, then that would have dirtied her up even though she was married. And like, like, it's believable that we're going to think that this married woman was a virgin and then pops out a kid. I mean, it's just the fact that people believe blows my mind still. And I'm sure there's people that are like huge Christians on here right now. They're like, oh, my God, the blasphemy. But, like, pause for a second and genuinely use critical thinking on that. Married virgin gives birth like that. It's just not believable. And then inside that story, right, there is a lot of inherent misogyny. A lot. But we're taught, oh, we can't ever criticize religion. We can't ever criticize, you know, the. The Virgin Mary. Yeah, you can. You actually can. You actually can critically think. Somebody just arbitrarily said, you can't do that because they want to control you. But actually, you can critically think about it and you can say, why would it diminish the life goals and all of the radical empathy that her son had had. She had an orgasm during conception. Why would that diminish the accomplishments of. Of her son, Jesus Christ, one of the most famous people ever?

[C]

Well, it wouldn't. But you. The misogyny starts in the very first chapter. Like Adam, God created Adam, and then he needed a helper. So then he took a rib and made Eve to be his helper. I mean, right there. And it is. And here's the deal, it was so internalized in myself and my family, in my upbringing. I didn't realize it until I was away from it.

[B]

That's just how it was.

[C]

That's why it's so dangerous.

[B]

Well, and the problem with this purity culture is a lot of women co sign on to slut shaming other women and they partake in the bigotry. All right, so we have a guest today that I'm going to interview in studio. Her name is Maren Morris. Pump, stay in the background and watch. And we'll be right back after this break. All right guys, with the seasonal changes, sometimes it's fun to do a spring clean and also a little interior design revamp. And sometimes things can be so expensive. Which is why I want to share with you this incredible brand called Article. I personally ordered their Julie swivel chair and ivory boucle. It's so chic and transitional and completely transformative to my living room. Article makes it effortless to create stylish, long lasting home at an unbeatable price. You guys, they have incredible customer service, meticulous packaging. The weight and feel of the product comes off as very high end. The fact that it comes mostly assembled, it's fast, affordable shipping and assembly and you can get support support whenever you need it. And the best thing at all, a 30 day satisfaction guarantee. Listener Article is offering our listeners $50 off your first purchase of $100 or more. To claim visit article.com had it and the discount will be automatically applied to checkout. That's article.comhattit for $50 off your first purchase of $150 or more.

[C]

All right.

[B]

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[C]

Hi.

[E]

It's so good to be here.

[B]

Welcome to I've had it.

[E]

Yeah, I, I'm such a fan of the show and what y' all do and just being from the south and hearing the way that y' all cuss and just like go against the grain, just very, very inspiring. So thank you for having me.

[B]

So you're blue.in red state.

[E]

Yeah, I kind of always have been because I'm from Texas originally. Now I live in Tennessee where shit's like really popping off right now.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

But yeah, it's kind of nice to be here during all of that to chat about it because it's just insane.

[B]

It really is. And I think it's really important. You know, country music is a part of American culture and a lot of country music, it's just we affirm, okay, that has to be maga. But that's not the case.

[E]

No. I think historically it's like my heroes were not towing this line of like faux patriotism. They were all. Well, I mean, Christofferson, an actual war vet, was always speaking up about, you know, against, you know, crazy nationalism. And just he, he understood the, you know, the, the plight of actually being in war and what it does to, to veterans. And so, yeah, like the Highwaymen, Willie Waylon, it's just like they were all really vocal and kind of left of center.

[B]

Right.

[E]

Because they were smart and they were writing poetry and speaking to the everyman and every woman. It wasn't like this weird thing now where the last 20 years has been almost this cosplay cowboy thing where it's like YSL boots that have never touched dirt. Like that Bo Burnham song, the Pandering song.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

But yeah, it's just very bizarre because it's like those people aren't even writing their own songs. Other people are writing them for them. And so it's just, it's been a huge loss of like respect for country music because it's become so like in some pockets, synonymous with maga and that's just completely antithetical to the country music I was raised on, which were, like, these people that had massive empathy and songwriting chops. And, like, Johnny Cash was performing at prison.

[B]

Totally.

[E]

So, yeah. And then when you talk about Loretta Lynn, like, writing the Pill, you know, which. That song was banned from so many country radio stations at the time. Dolly has always been an amazing ally and just beloved. But it's just. Yeah, it's a weird pocket.

[B]

There's a lot of performative patriotism that. And you spoke about this faux support for the troops. And it's something my husband and I speak about a lot because we. I was born in Texas, but raised in Oklahoma City, so we go to the Oklahom City Thunder Games, which we love. We love our team. But there's this moment where everybody does the national anthem, and Oklahoma is deeply, deeply red. Yeah. And as you know, the. The liberals and in red states are the toughest liberals the Democratic Party has, period. Full stop.

[E]

Totally.

[B]

But when I see these triple Trump voters stand up, they take their hat off, and you can just tell. They're just like, oh, this national anthem hits so hard. And I always think, you. You never give a shit about VA hospitals. You don't give a shit that 35% of all homeless people are veterans. Yeah. 35%. And they just talk about what a nuisance homeless people are, and that hypocrisy and the dehumanization is so grotesque to me.

[E]

Yeah. And I mean, not to generalize, but I have to is like, I doubt those people taking the maga hats off to sing the anthem are donating their time or money to give back to those communities of the. The men and women who have served who are now, you know, addicted to drugs or on the streets. And it's just. It's. But it's just all. Yeah, it is performative. And having performed on military bases and have military family, I have, you know, the utmost respect for being able to sing the songs I sing and have that platform because of the. The fight for that freedom. But it's also, like, when they're done, like, no one gives a shit about them anymore. And so that's the saddest part. But, no, it's. It's definitely interesting.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

All right, Maren, what have you had it with?

[E]

I've had it with a couple of things this week, like, top of mind. I just got off tour, and we were celebrating because it was the last night we were in my hometown. We were doing a Dall, and all my family Came out. And it's like, I didn't want to overdo it because we had a long drive back. But it's like, whether I. I've had it with having either one drink or if I have four, I'm gonna feel the same amount of dog shit the next day. So it's like, what is the point? Yeah, it's like I either should just go for it all the way or stop altogether. But I don't know if it's like me being in my mid-30s, all of that's changed, or like, post motherhood or like post pregnancy. My body has just changed. It doesn' the same way. It has to be like, age. But it's so annoying because it's such a. It's such a crapshoot because it's like, sometimes you'll have like two, and then you'll feel absolutely great the next day. And then sometimes it's like, no, I'm down for the count. And I don't drink, like, a ton of liquor or anything. I'm like a wine girl now. But maybe I need to switch you

[B]

up in the middle of night. If you drink wine, do you wake up? Yeah, sometimes I used to drink wine. I don't drink anymore, but I used to drink wine.

[E]

That'll. It's like with sugar.

[B]

Me up in the middle of the night at like, 3, and I would just wake up and I'd be like, go back to sleep and I couldn't.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

And then I would be up for about two hours. Then I'd finally fall back asleep.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

And I drank so much water when I woke up at three that I'm up later peeing. And then. Yeah, you just feel like dog shit. Yeah.

[E]

So I'm definitely over that part because it feels unfair. One or four, the outcome is the same. It just feels. Yeah, it's pissing me off because it happened a couple days ago and I was just like three days of recovery off of, like, not a big night.

[B]

Yeah, I know. It just seems like it's not worth it. It seems like a total racket. Drinking is really fun when you're young.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

God, it's so fun. And you can just wake up. And I remember I didn't feel hungover and was ready to do it again the next night, but. Oh, my God, now I think I would just die.

[E]

Yeah. And just the responsibilities of, like, the kids. Yeah. And just knowing you're never going to sleep fully again until they're graduated, probably. I just have resigned myself to that reality.

[B]

All right.

[D]

Let's.

[B]

Something else you emailed me about that you wanted to discuss that you've had it with is a senator from Tennessee. I just want you to go off on that.

[E]

Well, she's actually running for governor of Tennessee now, unfortunately, all are bad, but, yeah, Marsha Blackburn. I'm not a fan. I just think I'm saying it lightly. Just all of the stuff after the Louisiana, the Supreme Court decision last week, I just knew Tennessee was going to be the first, like, domino to fall next because she's just so giddy for any sort of approval from the president. And Bill Lee, our governor, current governor right now as well. It's just like, I remember years ago when the drag ban was happening in Tennessee, which was so, like, unenforceable and stupid. That picture of him came out, like, wearing a skirt, and it was just, like, perfect. But it's like, just encapsulates the hypocrisy of them. And I just. Yeah, but I mean, I'm. I know today is actually, like, the vote in the Tennessee House. So we have amazing people like Justin Jones, Justin Pearson, Gloria Johnson. They're like, you know, and also Stacey Abrams came and spoke.

[B]

Oh, amazing.

[E]

At the Tennessee State House in Nashville yesterday, I think, or the day before. So it's just like, I'm glad that people are putting eyes on it outside of just our state legislator. And it's like, why it's so important to vote in the state elections, because this is why it's happening. And just reading up on it today, because they finally released their map and, like, the, the redraw lines look like fucking silly string.

[B]

Right?

[E]

And having a representative, they're carving up, you know, Memphis. Out of nine districts in Tennessee, one is Democratic, and it's Memphis, which is a highly populous city and majority black.

[B]

Right.

[E]

And the fact that they've, like, carved it up to where a congressman in Nashville in Davidson county will be representing people in Memphis, which is three hours away. Like, Tennessee is already small, but, like, that's like representing constituents three hours away is just.

[B]

It's amazing the lengths that these people will go to suppress black people. It's just, you think, God, maybe we've made progress here. And then the Supreme Court guts the Voting Rights act, and then Marsha Blackburn. Kylie, do you have her picture of her that we can for review? This is who we're talking about. For those of you on YouTube, we're talking about this woman right here who every chance she can get is going to vote as a racist, as a homophobe.

[E]

Yeah. That's not a Brazilian blowout, that's a Caucasian blowout. Yeah.

[B]

Like this woman, she needs, she needs some gay people in her life. She needs some honesty in her life. And it's so upsetting when you see women like this carry the water for the patriarchy. Patriarchy. And you know, they're gonna over all the women in Tennessee. Is there an abortion ban in Tennessee?

[E]

Yeah, I mean, it's been, you know, cracked down on, but obviously overturning Roe was a big hammer.

[C]

But I.

[E]

No, it's really scary. I mean, I remember after I had my son, my ob, she was already kind of on her way to retirement, but she was just like, you know when there's that threat of these OBs being thrown in prison for providing health care, life saving healthcare. Yeah. It was just so emotional and sad because I was like, this woman saved my life and my son's. He was breached. Like both of our heart rates were dropping. I had to have an emergency C section. She saved our lives. And the fact that like, I don't know just yet, that being so real. And I'm like very privileged and I, but I, I just see like our state is. And I think this is why I'm. I still live there. Is because, and maybe it's like, because I'm from Texas. Of course. I love New York and people have wondered like, why don't you live in LA or New York just with your work now. But I was like, I really, even though it can be depressing and scary living somewhere where a lot of people don't have the choice to just up and leave. Like anyone that's like, go to Hollywood or get out of the country if you don't like it. It's like most people don't have that privilege.

[B]

You're right.

[E]

I would like to stay and fight. And I'm loving all of my peers and fellow Tennesseans in the halls of our Capitol right now. Just like booing the fuck out of these losers. These, these like, these cheaters. Like, they know historically they can never win without cheating because Tennessee is a very low voter turnout state and that is the only reason it's always red and. But Nashville's blue. They know Memphis is blue. These are highly, you know, lived in cities and people show up to vote. But they have carved Nashville up into three districts. They're doing. Now they're trying to do the same to Memphis. So my hope is that in November just kind of like, what was it the, the Viktor Orban thing where it was just like, so undeniable numbers.

[B]

Too big to rig.

[E]

Too big to rig.

[B]

Too many people turn out because they're going to try. Trump is going to try to rig it. He's already priming the public with the way he's used ice in Minneapolis. That was a dry run. That was to get the public ready for that. And we know historically the KKK would send people to voting booths in the south to intimidate black voters. And I think he's also going to put the military. You know, he's always said we have to get the enemy from within. He's obsessed, laser focused on voting. He's still trying to prove the 2020 election. This guy's a nut. But you know what, what really pisses me off Marin is we're talking about the abortion in Oklahoma, where I'm from. Total abortion ban. A lot of this would not be possible. These laws that are so antithetical to women's well being without the help of women.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

Without the help of the Marsha Blackburns and what they do. Marsha Blackburn is she gender washes these policies that make women less safe. Yeah. And it's a really dangerous, insidious thing to do. And, you know, Cash Patel is the leader of the FBI, the director of the FBI. And this is just a little something I've just kind of been obsessed with for quite some time. I want to read you something he tweeted.

[E]

Okay.

[B]

And get your information, get some feedback on this. So he's talking about his girlfriend. Her name is Alexis. I'm going to go to the last paragraph here. And he said the disgustingly baseless attacks against Alexis, a true patriot and a woman I'm proud to call my partner in life, are beyond pathetic. She is a rock solid conservative and a country music sensation who has done more for this nation than Most will in 10 lifetimes. So you're a country music sensation. Do you know Alexis?

[E]

I don't know. I. I don't know.

[B]

Have you ever heard of her?

[E]

I mean, she probably has only heard of me because of like every tweet or like just thing of mine that goes viral is always immediately sent to, like, these far right conservative pundity websites that just like regurgitate the same thing from like, a bigger news source and it just like trickles down.

[B]

But I mean, you've never heard of her though, Though.

[E]

I mean, I have. I don't really know. Yeah. I don't know if I kind of lying.

[B]

I think, I think he's lying about her being a country music sensation. And a patriot is what I'm getting at because I, We. We've looked and we can't find any evidence of either. Now I make the point, Marin, that perhaps her patriotism. She. He said she's done more for this country than most people have in 10 lifetimes.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

Is that she's blowing cash so that no other American woman has to. And that could be. I mean, that is a patriotic.

[E]

She is a patriot.

[B]

Right?

[E]

Yeah, guys.

[B]

I mean, that's patriotism.

[E]

Yeah, it's patriarchy. Patriotism.

[B]

I kind of. Something tells me, I think Cash Patel's lying about this country music sensation. Because you are. You're a multi platinum Grammy award winning singer songwriter who doesn't give a. And will stand up for everybody. Trans people, gay people, black people. You don't give a fuck if it hurts. Your record sells because it means something to you to stand up for universal human rights.

[E]

Yeah, I just, I think, like, so much has changed in the last 10 years, but I think I was very. I don't know if the word is even radicalized because I was like 11, but I just remember like, you know, post 911 and then post like the Dixie Chicks or the Chicks getting canceled for being right. I just was like. And I'm from Texas. So like 20 years later, it's the Chicks and Beyonce on stage at the CMA Awards. And it's my first CMA Awards. And I had just won. I had just performed my song My Church with like the Preservation hall jazz band and McCrary sisters. It was just like incredible music that night. And I'm freaking the fuck out that, like, Beyonce is in the same room as me and the Chicks are back. I feel like this is such a gift. But then there are, like, people around me. People are having fun, but then there are people around me just like, arms crossed, like, what are they doing here? And I was like, are you pissed that Beyonce's here? Are you pissed that the chicks are back? Because, like, you still have this 20 year weird ass grudge. Yeah, probably both. But I was just like, living my best life that night. And it just. Something changed in me because I was like, oh, wow, I'm celebrating my work tonight. I'm being celebrated. But I'm also like, like, these people are really meaningful to me in my music and my. My statehood. And they're already like, even in person, I see people bristling. And I was just like, kind of inspired by that. And I just, I took that with me. And I don't know if I've Ever stopped. But I just don't want, like, greed or cowardice or bigotry ever in the biography that my grandchildren read about me. And so it won't be.

[B]

See, that is such good conviction. And you're a huge advocate for the LGBTQ community, and I think there's a personal story in all of that that you can share with us. What sparked your advocacy and your family's advocacy for the LGBTQ community?

[E]

Yeah, I think just being from the south and having gay friends in a very conservative town, I just never saw bravery. Bravery like that. It just was astounding to me, even as a young kid, the. The fear that must instill in people. And some people never come out of the closet because it's just more comfortable to. To live in that sort of. I don't know, not inauthentic, but safer in their minds and just, like, get through life and get over. I mean, it's really sad, but I. I think just. It got bigger for me when I moved to Nashville and I started working with other people in the queer community that have the same kind of background of me. Like, you know, just from the south got out, but, like, remains really proud of that, like, background, because so much of, like, just the. The food and the music, like, Texas music is so diverse. Like, it's such a big state. It's its own country, essentially. But I learned so much from being from there. And then, yeah, that community has always taken really good care of me, and so I just think that I'll never be able to repay them. But their advocacy for themselves, me starting as, like, an ally, and then I came out two years ago as bi and just being embraced even more so. And I just always say, like, my crowds at my shows, because I've made those decisions over time. I've lost fans, of course, but you solidify something that's really authentically yours. And there's community out there, and just people are. They feel safe, and the crowd looks diverse, and they're safe to be there. They're not freaked out about leaving the show and going to the parking lot and being cornered. Like, hopefully we've run all of the assholes out by now.

[B]

No, you said something. I think that really struck with me, as you said that community's always taken such great care of me, and I have had that same experience. So I was raised in Oklahoma in the Bible Belt, and everybody I knew were super religious, but my family wasn't. And so there was a lot of ridiculing and judging because we didn't go to church and weren't believers. So when I went to college, I found companionship in a home hanging out with a lot of gay men. And because the same people that bullied me for not being religious had bullied them for being gay. So we shared a bonding in the same. Like, we don't like these Bible study freaks because they're mean, they're judgmental. And I'm not saying all Bible study people are that way, but a lot of them are in the South. And these men took care of me. They took. I mean, they took great care of me. And we. The great thing about the gay community and for all of the homophobes out there, which you're missing, is they just bring you in. They bring you in and make you part of the most fun night, the most fun experience, the most fun parade, the most fun drag show, the most. The most fun gay bars you can imagine. All you have to do is just not be a dick. Yeah, you're gonna have the time of your life.

[E]

They're gonna make you feel so good and so pretty. Yeah.

[B]

So pretty and so safe and. And I think there's something to be said that the least interesting person to me is a person who says, everything's gone great in my life. My parents were perfect. I've never had problems. That's not interesting to me. And when people have had to face adversity, especially the way the religious communities and white supremacist community communities can treat the LGBTQ community, and you and I both know, coming from that part of the country, it's the bravery to come out against those kind of headwinds is something that none of these Alpha truck Trump, flag truck nut people, they never have that bravery, Marin, Ever.

[E]

Yeah. There's just such a lack of curiosity. And I know it's, like, sort of a cliche general statement, but there is so much repressed, like, homosexuality within those communities.

[B]

I agree.

[E]

And it's why they're so obsessed with, like, tamping down on their rights is because they are so jealous that these people live in their complete, authentic, truthful selves. And they're celebrating it. They're not hiding it. That's really. They're super envious of that, I think. And, you know, my family, I've got a lot of Republicans in my family, and I just think being from there, but really, like, challenging them since I was little and them hearing me out, too, because it's like, I'm 11. What the fuck am I talking about? But I really just. I've never gotten off that, like, sort of stubborn ass, like, I need to find the truth train. But even if it's unpopular.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Even if it makes you a black sheep.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Like, even within country music, feeling like that, like, I. I still just. I feel like I'm always coming at it, even though I can, like, absolutely be, like, a silly, funny bitch about it. I feel like I'm. I'm coming from a place of good where I don't always think their intentions are about empathy or bringing people closer together. It's always like, you know, get the fuck out if you don't like it here.

[B]

And have you changed minds? Have you had people reach out to you that say, because you have come out as bi or because you're so accepting? That's helped me.

[E]

Yeah, I think so. And obviously, music has been my vehicle to reach people's hearts. But, like, I also think music is inherently political. Living is political. So anyone, anytime someone tries to say that it's not a part of that or shut up and sing or whatever, which is oxymoronic, you can't shut up and sing. I've just never understood that one. But I. I just am, like, I'm. I'm just trying to, like, love with my neighbor and kind of zoom out from my own and, like, do charity work. Bring my son, who's now 6, into it, too, because I want him to, like, know that he's privileged, and I want him to grow up knowing that he's helping people in his community alongside me, not just being, like, side stage at the show. That. That's cool too. But, yeah, just really, like, giving back because I feel like that's important. And especially with him having, like, two musical parents that are, you know, doing well. Yeah, I just. That's been important for me. But I feel like my parents have really stood by me in so many ways. Like when Tucker Carlson called me a lunatic.

[B]

Okay, tell us about that. Tell my listener about that. That's some juicy tea.

[E]

This is before he was let go of Fox, but I was clapping back to some, like, transphobe on the Internet, and I called her Insurrection Barbie. Which, like, I. I don't even think they're offended by that. I think they were offended that it was funny because they're like, damn it. Yeah, Damn, she got me on that one. But I'm just, like, shooting the shit, trying to make myself laugh. But, yeah, they went on Tucker's show, and he was like, and who is this lunatic country music person? Maren Morri. And I obviously Thought that was hysterical. Like, what a. What a way to, like, intro my name. And we put that on a T shirt and, like, sold it for charity, and it was like something crazy. Like $300,000 worth of, like, in the first week.

[B]

But did you donate that to an lgbtq?

[E]

Of course. Trans lifeline. I should have put it in his name.

[B]

I love you, man. That's so fascinating. Fabulous. Of course. Trans lifeline. Yeah.

[E]

I was like, I don't know if people realize how petty I can go.

[B]

I'm here for the cause. I am sad.

[E]

Yeah. But I. Yeah. So, like, my parents, obviously, and a ton of, like, a ton of people in our family that watch VOX when it's almost like the spell broke a little bit.

[C]

Right.

[E]

Once you, like, with your own. But no, my parents have always stood up for me, even to their own friends and family, because there are people that have known me since I was a baby.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

That are like, trumpy. And they're like, coming to my parents like, oh, what did your daughter say this week? And my mom will be like, you. And she'll like, mama bear me. Because at the end of the day, like, even though we don't always see eye to eye, that's her kid. And. But no, it's just like, we get into these long talks about their. Their old friends that just, like, are supremely unhappy and they're super maga and they'll be up at 2 or 3 in the morning just rage baiting, posting like, you know, AI slop and like 4chan shit. Like, super, super, just xenophobic, homophobic shit. And almost like Trump does it like 2 and 3 in the morning, and then they'll, like, delete it the next day because maybe they, like, woke up and we're like, oh, that's crazy.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

But it's like that. It's like this is their reality they're living in. And then they're like, coming to my parents to, like, you know, chastise me. And it's like, I'm. I'm good, boo. Like, I'm doing all right. I ain't up at three in the morning posting that. Crazy.

[B]

What I think is so important, Marin, is when I asked you what charity you sent it to and you said the LG of the trans lifeline.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

Because right now there's a tendency the right is completely trans obsessed. They are. I've never seen a group of people as MAGA obsessed with genitals and gay sex and trans sex as much as I have maga. It's Creepy. They need to check into it. Yeah, but you hear some establishment Democrats on the left say, well, we shouldn't really be talking about trans rights. And I think to myself, my God, what are we if we can't stand up up for less than 1% of the population? Who is getting bullied by these freaks on the right that are so obsessed with gay sex and genitalia they will not shut the up about it. Maggots. All they talk about Trump's number one commercial was a trans commercial because that's all these people want to hear about. And so it really.

[E]

Well, it's really very sexualized, like very. All the pornhub top searches state by state, wasn't it? It was probably like 10 Tennessee or like Alabama or something was trans. Yeah, trans porn. And it's like you guys are obsessed because you're like fetishizing it. You're fetishizing it. Yeah. And same thing with the, the RNC grinder shut down.

[B]

But what I think is so brave of you is that out of all the charities you went, I'm going, I'm going to give it to the trans lifeline. And it shows how much courage there is in these blue dots and red states to stand up and have more courage than a lot of people in the Democratic Party. Because we cannot throw the most marginalized group among us. We cannot throw them under the bus. We just absolutely cannot do it.

[E]

No, they need our help more than ever because of the percentage being so low and how much obsession they've centered on it.

[B]

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[E]

Had it.

[B]

I hit it every day, sometimes twice a day. Had it or Hit it. Dating apps had it. Go on.

[E]

I mean it's just. I'm convinced, like, it is all the people in the world that you were never meant to meet just algorithmically centered into one dating pool platform. And I've had a couple nice experiences. Not a match for life, but, like, nice. But it is, like, on one hand, I could count those. The rest have been either, like, diabolical, like, demons or. Or people that, like, they're. They seem okay at first, and then the mask slips, and it's like, life ruinous. So I'm like, no, I think, yeah, definitely had it.

[B]

So you're not on the apps anymore?

[E]

No, I've deactivated the one I was on just because I was like, this is crazy. It's not worth the stress.

[B]

Are you single?

[E]

I am.

[B]

Oh, all right.

[E]

Which is. I love. I love being single. But every once in a while, like, once or twice a year, I'll be like, I'll try it again. And then immediately, immediate, no.

[B]

Some free.

[E]

No. Yeah. All right.

[B]

Had it or hit it. The Met Gala.

[E]

I would say hit it. Just because we need something to look at. I like that it's not an award show. Also, like, it's not that long, and I like that it's charitable. I haven't. But I watched it this week and was really.

[B]

What'd you think about Jeff Bezos?

[E]

I mean, that was just. The whole thing with Vogue and them is so weird. This, like, obsession. But no one else has the obsession except for the top people at Vogue. And then Lauren Sanchez. Yeah. It's just. I don't feel like the people are asking for that. Like, there's not the demand.

[B]

So I don't think anybody really wants to see Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sanchez. Here's my thing. I like to see pretty people dressed up.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

I like it.

[E]

I like the art of it.

[C]

Totally.

[B]

I agree. And normally I would have always been like, oh, I'm gonna watch the red carpet on the Met Gala. I hate. Watched about 10 minutes of it this year because I was so mad about Jeff Bezos buying his wig there.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

And then in New York, up on the buildings, they had all of these union workers that had been fired from Amazon that were protesting the Met. Jeff Bezos has made $85 billion since Trump was sworn in the second time. 85 billion. I don't think any of our brains can comprehend how much money that it is. And he's worth hundreds of billions more than that. Yeah. And he's fired tens of thousands of people this year, set to fire even more because he's Going to replace them with AI. And then he demeans his workers that are trying to unionize to get health care and a higher wage. Yeah. And so I was really hating on the Met Gala this year.

[E]

Yeah. Because that's a really good point.

[B]

Because of Jeff.

[E]

I mean, it's just. It's all cracking. Because also, like, 85 billion. It's like, where is that sitting? Like these. It's like these, like, lizards skin suit. Billionaires, like, hoard all this wealth, exploit all these people. And then it's like, where do they go? Like their New Zealand bunker by the end of life? Like, I just don't know where their end game is. I don't think they have one. But it's just like, you have everything you could.

[C]

I would.

[E]

If I had any money even close to that or even just like a small fraction, you would never see me again.

[B]

Right.

[E]

I'm not going to the Met gal. Like, I would be, like, on an island somewhere, like, giving the rest of it away to charity. And then, like, why would you ever need to see me ever on a carpet again?

[B]

It's weird. I call them the billionaire bedwetters because they're just always like, if you get on Elon Musk Twitter feed, he's so aggrieved. He acts like he is a black man battling racism in the 1940s and 50s. I mean, it's. And he's a trillionaire. Yeah, he's a trillionaire. Richest man in the world who's chronically online. Jeff Bezos. Like, you have all this money. You have a bank account that could choke a bull. And. And you're firing people that want to join a union. Why not be like, you know what? Not only did I build this incredible company, but I'm going to show people how to take incredible care of humanity.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

But it's like, it's something. Once you make a billion dollars. I'm convinced now that some sort of breakage in the brain happens with empathy and they get some sort of psychosis and, like, addictions. Yeah. Yeah. And some sort of steroid style entitlement.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, they feel like they're entitled to even more than what they already have.

[E]

Yeah. They're not like, they're not, like, building libraries and putting their names on, like, ballets, like, you know.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Rich people used to do where it's like, I want my name to live on this cultural epicenter and have people come to it and enjoy art.

[B]

Right.

[E]

That they don't give a. They don't enjoy art. Actually, you're never gonna, like. It's like they'd rather just change it to the Trump center instead of the Kennedy center than actually, like, be charitable or give a shit about arts. They can't enjoy art because enjoying art requires empathy. It requires humanity. They don't have that anymore or ever did. So, of course not like, they'd rather just walk the carpet at the Met Gala. I doubt they're like. I mean, I'm sure they're. The money they paid to be there hopefully goes to charity, but. Yeah, it's just. I don't. Yeah. Why do they exist?

[B]

Had it or hit it? Country music politics.

[E]

I mean, I would hit it with the progressive part. I like the loud people that are brave and, like, the Tyler Childers, Margot Price, Mickey Guyton, Britney Spencer's Sturgill Simpson. Like, there's so many that are truly, like, just badasses, and they're incredible songwriters and give a. So, like, I will always ride hard for that side of country music because that's representing the real people. I would say I've had it with the other side that just panders to their audience that is paying so much money to even fund that lifestyle, for them to fly private, to mar a lago in their boots that have never touched dirt. I mean, there's a saying where it's like, you probably know this because it's, like, so Southern, but it's like, all hat, no cattle.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[E]

That's all of them.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Like, most of them, that's a whole maga movement.

[B]

Oh, yeah. But it's like, no cattle.

[E]

It's all hat, no cattle. And they just. I feel like, exploit their audiences and say what they need to say. They rall people out, but then, like, they'll. They still overcharge tickets and, like, crazy. Just. It's insane. But I. I wish these people, like, realized they were being completely used by people that are, like, multi millionaires beyond, like, doing crazy deals. And, like, who else knows what's going on behind the scenes? I'm not privy to, but they don't give a shit about their audiences at all. Like, they're just cash cows to them.

[C]

All right.

[B]

Had it or hit it. Disney adults,

[E]

I would say. I don't know, because it's like. Like, there's so much, like, starve for joy, starvation for joy in this world. I would say, like, you're a freak if you're ever, like, rude to the staff or you're cutting in line in front of an actual child. Like, you're. You're I've had it with that.

[B]

What about Lindsay Graham at. At. What about. Let's talk about Lady Graham at Disney

[E]

World with Lady G. With his. The bubble wands.

[B]

Yeah, that was interesting.

[E]

Does he even have kids?

[B]

No, he's never been married.

[E]

Okay, well, we know why, but I don't know why he's there. And also, like, what Disney movie did he find whimsy and, like, correlation to as a child? Like, is it. Because I feel like most have had these, like, deeply political undertones.

[B]

Snow White. The white supremacy.

[E]

He loves Snow White because she was white. Yeah. I was like, he probably missed the entire point of, like, A Bug's Life. Yeah. I just. It's so crazy. And the fact that, like, it was sort of like the Ted Cruz thing, where it's like, shit's hitting the fan, he's off to Cancun. Like.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

Oh, man.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

He's just a piece of work. All right. Had it or hit it, Tucker Carlson.

[E]

I mean, I'll say had it for sure. It's like this influx of these people now that are agreeing with us finally.

[B]

Yes.

[E]

Oh, now I'm gonna make sense. And he's like, I'll give him this. He's really intelligent, which scares the shit out of me.

[B]

I agree with you on that.

[E]

It scares me because I could just see him, like, angling all of this switch up right now for, like, a 20, 28 run. I agree. And I mean, he's still got a base, so. But, like, yeah, right now it's like him and a few other of those, like, pundity people will say things that. That we've been saying for years, right? And they're like, oh, now I've been. I've been bamboozled. I've been lied to. And I'm gonna switch it up. Like, Marjorie Taylor Greene, all this shit. It's like, no, you're all grifters. Like, I agree. You. You got your pension. You're gonna be fine for the rest of your life. Probably. I don't know.

[B]

But I under trading. Don't forget Marjorie Taylor Greene. You know what? I was pretty impressed because when she first hit the scene, she's talking about

[E]

Jewish space labors, and I thought, oh,

[B]

my God, this dumb bitch. She was savvy enough. Her trade. I think her net worth is something like 25 million or something. And she hasn't even been in. In Congress that long. It's 25, 30 million. That kind of shocked me in, like, six years. Yeah.

[E]

And then she gets to retire Yeah, I bet.

[B]

I bet it's going to be Tucker Green, 28.

[E]

Don't put it out there.

[B]

I mean, I want them to run J.D. vance, because I just think it would be fun to beat the shit out of him verbally every day.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

It's kind of fun to browbeat JD Vance.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

You can tell there's probably a part of him that likes it.

[E]

Yeah. That he. He likes the top missive.

[B]

Yeah, totally. He's totally. Yeah.

[E]

Yeah. Peter Thiel is the dog.

[B]

Yeah, totally. He is. Okay, last one. Had it or hit it? The United States of America.

[E]

I will hit it. Because this, like, patriotism in me comes in the most. Like, like, rare forms, random forms. Like, obviously, years ago, it's like, drag ban right now. This. This backlash of people wanting to be heard in the Tennessee House right now. And, like, you know, federally in the midterms, I was like, something about the south, and I think that's why I've remained there is like, I want to stay and fight. Like, I. I love being in these, like, liberal spaces, of course, because I feel like I'm with my people, but I also want to. To be near the people that are, like, completely unrepresented and disenfranchised and fight for them. Because I do think that the tide is turning. And that is why the Republicans are scared shitless of states like this flipping or getting close to flipping is because they know even their own Republican constituents are pissed at them. So it's like they are going all in to redraw these maps. Maps illegally, L.A. it's like their election had already been in process of starting, and now they're, like, pausing it. And it's just people are pissed. And I'm. I'm obviously, like, worried that it's going to reach this boiling point of, like, violence, because when you disenfranchise people, the one equalizer, all the grass prices, rising grocery prices, just not being able to, like, live. The one equalizer between no matter what walk of life you are was our right to vote. And when you cut that off at the knees as well now, you've given people a reason to have nothing to lose. Truly.

[B]

Maren, thank you so much. Thank you for your advocacy and listener, viewer. How fabulous is it to know. I told you guys, it's bullshit. When you see all the likes and all the. On maga, there are more of us, every generation, every color, every state that hate fascism. Thank you for your voice, thank you for your convictions, thank you for your fearlessness, and thank you for coming on. I've had it.

[E]

Oh, my gosh. It's an honor. I'm such a fan, and you've inspired me to, like, be honestly, just, like, a bigger bitch.

[B]

Good. I like it. Bitches against fascism, baby. We'll see you next time.

[E]

I'll tell you what.

[B]

I've had it with the Cheris. I've had it with that.