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Jack Hibbs
Hey everybody. We got our first time ever actually devotional. We have a 40 day devotional called watching waiting. 40 days of walking you through biblical passages that excite you and prepare you for the soon coming of Jesus Christ. Watching waiting is a 40 day devotional that's all tied to biblical prophecy.
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Hediya Mirmati
Watching Waiting, it is our featured resource for this month and it's available for.
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Jack Hibbs
A gift of any amount@jackhips.com realradio jackibs.com.
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Hediya Mirmati
Realradio Real Life presents the Jack Hibbs Podcast.
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Jack Hibbs
With intention and boldness to proclaim truth, equip the saints and impact our culture. Everybody, I probably said this before, but I've never meant it this much before. You need to sit down, you need to hang on, because what you're about to hear is not only going to be true, it just might be too much for you. And I hope that's not the case. But you are about to hear some things that you need to learn, know and, and get ready for. And I hope most importantly that it draws you closer to Jesus as we get near to the coming of the Lord. In the meantime, let's dive into this.
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Hediya Mirmati
You can get the outlines of this podcast by going to jackibbs.com podcast today. If this podcast lifts you up and encourages you to live a more fulfilled.
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Jack Hibbs
Life in Christ, then make sure you leave us one of those five star ratings.
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Hediya Mirmati
To us, that's like saying amen or yes, then that rating will encourage others to listen. Now open your hearts to what God's word has to say to you.
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Jack Hibbs
Here is Jack Hibbs. Hey everybody. Welcome to the Jack Hibbs show and we are excited to be with you. You are going to be excited that you've been with us because we are going to be saying some things, we're revealing some things that are not top secret. But you're not hearing about it in the legacy media. You're not going to be hearing about these things not only in your local press or national press, you probably won't even hear about these things in much of the international or the Western international news agencies. But I have with us today a young lady who has served our nation in many ways. She was born and raised Muslim, actually, and parents of, she's a child of Iranian Persian parents that came here to the United states. And almost 30 years ago, my goodness, almost 30. She started this when she was 5. So almost 30 years ago, her career went down a path that who would have known but God would lead her not only into the Oval Office of the White House, but down the halls of some of the most powerful people in our nation. And she's played a very critical role. And now, if that wasn't enough, Jesus has gotten ahold of her heart some years ago, and we're excited about that. I am introducing you today to someone who's on the Real Life Network, and that's Hediya Mirmati. And we're really happy to have you.
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Hediya Mirmati
Oh, thank you for having me.
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Jack Hibbs
You bet. You are a tremendous resource. And so we kind of preempted a bunch of other podcasts to get this one in because of what has not only happened in New York City in the recent election, but the infusion of vitamin B, so to speak, to the Muslim community since Zoran Mandani's election. A lot of people are talking, a lot of cities, municipalities, are flirting with Islam. Hediya, where do you want to begin? You want to talk about the history, the start points?
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Hediya Mirmati
I think it's important for people to see the historical continuum because if we don't start there, then people think this is happening in a vacuum and think, oh, well, it's one Muslim person here and another Muslim person there. And they don't understand the ideological underpinnings of the movement of Islam. And I'd like to separate up first. What we're talking about is Islam. We as Christians, we love all people. So we're not talking about Muslims, we're talking about the ideology. So if you start back in what was Christendom? So all of the Middle East, North Africa, Europe, these are all Christian lands. Once the Islamic army advances outside of Mecca, 632 about it starts invading all of these Christian lands. By 732, almost that entire region that was Christendom is conquered. And people say, I was taught in history that this was a voluntary conversion, that everybody was happy in those lands.
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Jack Hibbs
But because you were taught in Madrasa.
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Hediya Mirmati
No, no, no, no.
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Jack Hibbs
Up ucla. Ucla.
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Hediya Mirmati
I was a student of Sanford Shaw, one of the greatest historical scholars ever.
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Jack Hibbs
And.
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Hediya Mirmati
And he just talked about it as if it was this, I should have known, wonderful dream. It's our education system that's corrupted. That's a different story. So by the time we get to the Crusades. The Crusades were a response to 300 Years of Christians crying out to their brothers and sisters around the world saying, please rescue us. Thousands of churches were burned, people were massacred, women were raped.
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Jack Hibbs
Sorry, but this is a podcast. We get to interrupt each other.
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Hediya Mirmati
Yes, please.
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Jack Hibbs
Why did the Christians that were being taken captive or being Placed under this or surrendering to Islam? Why did they send a message to the Christian world to come and rescue us? I'm being sarcastic right now. Why didn't they fight.
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Hediya Mirmati
You? You're better at telling that story than me. Because apparently they did try to fight, but very unsuccessfully. They were outgunned, outnumbered, swords. I don't know. Maybe it's the theology, the sweetness of the theology. I don't know, you know, but the response was so by the time Pope Urban declares the Crusade, they've already been decimated and have lost most of that territory. Fast forward, there's 1000 years of conquest of Christian lands and Islam spreads even farther. So it's not, it's actually not pushed back until World War I. Where? Europe, now Asia Minor in the Middle east and North Africa. That's gone. Those are Muslim. That's why we call them Muslim. The Muslim world.
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Jack Hibbs
You're going so fast. This is going to be great. We'll just, we'll be here for hours, which we need to do.
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Hediya Mirmati
This, I'm worried about.
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Jack Hibbs
If you want to do it in.
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Hediya Mirmati
An hour, we're talking fast.
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Jack Hibbs
Okay, so I'm trying to hear somebody from on the other side of this lens. And they're saying, well, what do you mean? They started in Mecca and Medina and they took off and they got into Europe. Are you suggesting, Hediya, that Islam is a theocratic geopolitical ideology that has conquer and conquest in its mindset.
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Hediya Mirmati
It's at the root of Islam. They've never denied that. It's a global expansionist doctrine.
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Jack Hibbs
Global expansionist doctrine, folks.
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Hediya Mirmati
And they've never denied that. I mean, that's always been the mission. And so the average Muslim may not understand that because they don't know history or they don't even read the Koran. The average Muslim doesn't even read the Quran. That's right, because if you read it, it's in the scripture. So fast forward, we're at World War I. This ends the first phase of the Islamic conquest because they no longer militarily can defeat the West. So phase two begins. And Bin Laden refers to this in his manifesto, that this is now their attempt. Phase two is how they're going to reconquer the lands that were stolen and conquer more land until all the world is subdued into Islam.
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Jack Hibbs
Right.
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Hediya Mirmati
That doctrine is no different for the Saudi government today as it was yesterday. What Bin Laden was doing was just creating a militia. But that's the same doctrine that the Saudis believe that the Qataris believe the UAE believes because people think that because they're Western allies on paper, that they don't have that doctrine, but they do. And part of that is, is the Muslim Brotherhood.
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Jack Hibbs
Right. But the American listening to this, they don't want to believe this. Even if you showed them all the documentation. I know as a pastor and you know, being involved in the agencies that you've been involved in, there's this, in fact, Mikhail Gorbachev, it just comes to my mind. Mikhail Gorbachev said prior to the fall of the Soviet Union, Soviet Union, he said we must take advantage of the Americans desire to not want to know.
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Hediya Mirmati
Cognitive dissonance. Sounds like we're parents.
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Jack Hibbs
And so what we're talking about right now, I bet you people are just tuning us off right now because they don't want to believe. They saw the president of Syria now, they saw him wearing his suit. He's not in camos.
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Hediya Mirmati
He's not in camos.
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Jack Hibbs
He's good now, right? Because he's got a suit, Armani, he's got a tie. He's good. That's the depth of the American discernment. And it's pathetic and tragic. And that's how you get conquered.
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Hediya Mirmati
Well, let's go back to that question you asked. Why did Christendom get conquered for 300 years before they cried out? Yeah, we're just seeing. That's why I think the historical perspective is important, because it took 300 years until Christendom decided they were going to respond.
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Jack Hibbs
And.
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Hediya Mirmati
And we're doing the same thing over again. People who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. And the question becomes, for us here in the United States, 42 Muslim Americans were elected to office in this cycle.
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Jack Hibbs
This cycle being a couple weeks ago.
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Hediya Mirmati
A couple weeks ago, 42 Muslims were.
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Jack Hibbs
Elected to office in the United States.
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Hediya Mirmati
Several weeks ago, everything from state, local, school boards, city councils, state representatives and federal. And then that number is added to the 230 that already existed. So there's two hundred and eighty Muslim American officials in total.
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Jack Hibbs
To add another number in some way, shape or form, Trump's administration is adding also Muslims into places of power.
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Hediya Mirmati
Yes. So he recently put up for nomination Amir Ghalib, the mayor of Hamtrak, who is referred to as the mayor of America's first Sharia city.
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Jack Hibbs
Where? Where what? Where's this place?
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Hediya Mirmati
It's in, it's in a little part of Michigan, but they have an all Muslim city council and they allow animal sacrifices in people's backyards. So there's, you know, the Blood of goats and lambs for the Islamic holidays running down the streets. People complain they find carcasses in the trash cans and people are complaining that the call to prayer is, is played anywhere between 3:30 and 5:30am but five times a day.
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Jack Hibbs
But that's okay because they control the city council.
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Hediya Mirmati
Yes. And there's a viral video going around of somebody complaining and they basically just shut her down.
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Jack Hibbs
So can I just. So you would think in America and in a city council or in any government of the United States that there is the warm affections and loyalty to the Constitution of the United States. You would think if my understanding is correct, you cannot be a true Muslim and be a constitutionalist. Is that correct?
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Hediya Mirmati
So the entire corpus of Sharia includes prayer and fasting, marital relations and subdue and conquer non Muslim lands. So Sharia is all of it. If you are devout, you abide and believe in all of it. So how do you believe in a parallel. It's a parallel legal system. How do you technically sincerely take an oath of office to defend the Constitution when you believe in a parallel legal system?
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Jack Hibbs
So right now the liberal progressive woke world is screaming bloody murder for Trump for being a tyrant, renegade, despot king, you name it. But what Trump, what Trump is doing may or may not be liked by some people, but he's very clever to stay within the bounds of the Constitution. He's not stupid. But a Muslim comes along and says, hey, you know what? My faith in God's most important, something we should be saying, Right. But our wimpy Christianity says, oh, we don't get involved in politics. So the Muslim does.
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Hediya Mirmati
Yes.
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Jack Hibbs
But it's interesting because if you were, I'm assuming if you were to get them off to the corner and say, hey, so you're going to run for city council. Totally. What are you going to do when you swear to the Constitution? I don't care what I say about the Constitution. I'm not going to do it because I'll pick and choose what works for me. But my loyalty is to Allah and.
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Hediya Mirmati
To, well, most of them take an oath on the Quran. They don't use the Bible.
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Jack Hibbs
But what are they saying with their mouth?
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Hediya Mirmati
You know, they would say they're going to abide by the Constitution.
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Jack Hibbs
It is legal in Islam to lie to advance the cause.
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Hediya Mirmati
Exactly. So let's go to the concept of taqiyah. So when a Muslim, again, these are people who practice. There are millions of secular Muslims, culturally Muslim, their family was Muslim, but they have no idea about what I'm Talking about, they would call me a liar because they haven't studied it. So if you are a devout Muslim, when you are in Dal Harb, the abode of war, so remember the conquest, second phase, everywhere that's not under Islamic law is in the abode of war.
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Jack Hibbs
Yes.
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Hediya Mirmati
When you're in the abode of war, you could do anything. You need to conquer to win. So your wife, like Maudani. Her? Look at her. His beautiful wife with the short sleeve and the cute bob hair.
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Jack Hibbs
I think I know where you're going. Say this slow so our audience can get this. She's looking what, Westernly normal?
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Hediya Mirmati
Yeah, beautiful. She looks. She's adorable. So you look at her and you're like, how militant can this guy be? Look at his wife. But they live in the abode of war. And so whatever they do of deceptive practices, Allah's not unhappy with them because they're doing that to advance their cause, the cause of Islam.
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Jack Hibbs
It's okay to look Western, act Western, speak Western all the while. As long as Allah knows that your motive is to conquer in his name.
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Hediya Mirmati
Yes. The ends justify the means. Absolutely.
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Jack Hibbs
What is Hudna? Is that a form of hudna?
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Hediya Mirmati
Yes. So nations, and they have publicly professed this memory.org, you know, puts out these great videos where they're translating it.
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Jack Hibbs
M r I.o r g m e.
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Hediya Mirmati
M r I.org and they talk about and they play those videos. They say, this is a hudna. Yasser Arafat called the Oslo Accords a hudna. So it's a peace agreement while Muslims regroup, advance till they're able to strike when they're stronger.
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Jack Hibbs
Yeah.
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Hediya Mirmati
So it's a temporary peace. It doesn't have the same meaning as an American peace agreement where we believe that this is something we're going to honor. You know, that we did it with integrity and with honor. That is not the case.
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Jack Hibbs
You're not making that up. Because historically, Islam will advance until it is being resisted enough to. Whereby it has to call for a timeout.
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Hediya Mirmati
Right.
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Jack Hibbs
And the timeout sounds like something like, we want to negotiate. We'd like to stop right now. We'd like to. And by the way, notice that they will advance in advance. In advance negotiations. None on the table. We're going to keep going. And then when they're in trouble, they want to negotiate. But that is always, always. History has proven to. Basically, I would say we'll negotiate and agree for a peace. A pause to reload.
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Hediya Mirmati
Exactly.
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Jack Hibbs
Not to find agreement for peace, but to reload Exactly, Yes. That's what history has shown us. Yeah.
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Hediya Mirmati
And so the question, I think at this point is because I grapple, I run this over in my mind 100 times a day. So we have religious liberty in this country. Right. So we can't stop a Muslim. People are calling for banning Sharia. Well, then you're basically saying that we're going to change the First Amendment, that they don't have a right to practice their religion. So the question remains, what are we going to do to advance our existing laws and motivate the American people to say the America that we believe in that is founded on Judeo Christian values is worth fighting for? You can't blame the Muslims for wanting to defeat us. What are we going to do in response?
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Jack Hibbs
I actually commend them. When Mandani won and I was sitting there, I watched the victory, kind of thought it was going to happen anyway. And then what got me putting some social media out there was some. I think the word is Hebrew. Nincompoop. No, it's German, actually. But said, how could this happen in my city? And I said, how could this happen in your city?
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Hediya Mirmati
Right.
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Jack Hibbs
You should have known because you Christians did nothing.
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Hediya Mirmati
Right.
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Jack Hibbs
And I heard this. Ted Cruz put out the data, post election data, and a remarkable amount of white women American voted for Mandani, screaming, great, Sharia's coming.
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Hediya Mirmati
Social media posts.
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Jack Hibbs
Yeah, a lot of them young, 25 to 35. And they also were really anti Christian. We're done with this Christianity stuff. We're done with it. We're done with it. Okay, listen, I understand that maybe you had a bad experience with a church or a pastor or whatever. You need to stop, though, and calm down and take a broader view that wherever Islam goes and takes power, go look at those countries. And the first thing, first thing that you should do is go look at the welfare of women in those countries.
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Hediya Mirmati
Exactly. And the question is, the reality is we have a spiritual and moral vacuum. You know better than anybody else in this country that the communist Marxists, you know, the Red Green alliance, people talk about the communists and Marxists and atheism has been building. This has been basically digging a hole in the Judeo Christian foundation of our nation.
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Jack Hibbs
Absolutely.
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Hediya Mirmati
Starting with the school system, curriculum. Curriculum. Changing the way it changed the way I was taught history. And that's all the way at the university level. But so it's basically dug this hole where all of these deviant ideologies, this kind of anti. It's basically against Judeo Christian values. Anti American values are Just filling this vacuum. So the only way we're going to have an effective response is, is if the church connected to the Jewish community, the Judeo Christian foundation as country starts to fight back. 30% of Jews voted for Madani.
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Jack Hibbs
So I'll save that part for just. I'm going to ask her. She doesn't know what I'm going to ask her, but I'm going to ask her, I'm going to ask her what Allah Akbar means. And I want you to listen to her definition because I think it's going to be, I think it's going to be revelatory. It was to me when I first found it out. So a lot of people say Allah Akbar, but it's actually Allahu Akbar. And what is that?
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Hediya Mirmati
God is great.
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Jack Hibbs
Is it God is great or is it God? God is greater.
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Hediya Mirmati
Oh, okay, yes, technically God is greater.
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Jack Hibbs
Is it?
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Hediya Mirmati
Yes.
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Jack Hibbs
Greater than who?
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Hediya Mirmati
Greater than our God. So they think, isn't that interesting? Isn't it?
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Jack Hibbs
God is greater. And my question is greater than who? I say that because In Galatians chapter 1, Paul the Apostle says watch out, be on guard, be careful against anyone who teaches any other false gospel or even comes and tells you an angel gives you another gospel from heaven. He said that angel is accursed and that gospel is accursed.
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Hediya Mirmati
That's what Muhammad pretends, that he received a revelation from Gabriel.
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Jack Hibbs
From Gabriel, isn't it? Muhammad says he got the gospel from the Muslim gospel from Gabriel. But the book of Galatians was already in distribution before Muhammad came along. Christians were able to know these. The writing, the writing of Galatians folks was in circulation in 55 AD. Muhammad comes along, what, how many, 600 years later? 600 years about, and says the angel Gabriel gave me this message and somehow, obviously I wasn't there, but somehow the church, what doctrine of appeasement didn't think it was ever going to happen. I don't know. Is this true that the Mecca years of Muhammad was somewhat peaceful right until the Medina?
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Hediya Mirmati
Well, he gained strength like the hood. So the Meccan verses are the more peaceful verses that are abrogated by the Medina verses that come later, which are more violent about conquest. Because he's.
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Jack Hibbs
And they supersede, don't they?
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Hediya Mirmati
Yes, and they supersede. So they say they abrogated the peaceful verses and are replaced with the Medina verses. But I think we should also point out to your audience because a lot of people may not know who's Allah, okay? Because a lot of interfaith activities, a lot of Churches around the country, around the world say that based on the interfaith activities, Allah is the same God. It's just another word for God. But it's so important for Christians to know that is not correct.
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Jack Hibbs
Tell us.
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Hediya Mirmati
Because our God is a triune God. The understanding in the Quran, which is the holy book of Muslims of who Jesus is, is he's a prophet. He is not the son of God. There is no notion of a hol spirit and a father God. So by saying it's the same God, you're woefully deceiving yourself and the Muslim. How can you witness to a Muslim and tell them about your God? If you tell them it's the same God, why would they want to come to saving faith in Christ? You're basically leaving them at the door of hell and walking away. How is that the heart of a Christian? You know? So this is part of the deception, is that, you know, why do we care so much that he's Muslim? Okay, he may wrap his wife in a bunch of clothing, but what is that going to matter to us? It matters a lot. When they're sacrificing goats in your backyard or playing the azan at 5:30, or the moral police, they ban, you know, certain types of clothing. In Europe, girls and boys can't sit on a bench without getting harassed by the moral police. In England.
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Jack Hibbs
Oh gosh. Right.
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Hediya Mirmati
So do we want that here? Do we want Sharia courts to enforce legal agreements between men and women? Do we want people like me to suffer death for leaving Islam because the punishment for apostasy is death?
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Jack Hibbs
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. In fact, if Jihadi were to walk in this room right now, you're going down before I go down. Because you're the greater betrayal.
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Hediya Mirmati
Absolutely, absolutely. I have a dear friend of mine who was beaten to an inch of her life in Virginia for trying to convert. For. I mean, she did convert, but her father beat her to an inch of her life in front of her relatives.
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Jack Hibbs
I'm not going to say where this happened, but it was in the United States where it was reported that. In a U.S. prison. I don't know the details about it, but what was reported is that an inmate was beheaded in prison.
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Hediya Mirmati
Yes, I remember hearing about that.
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Jack Hibbs
And the beheading was something that is still hard for me to fathom. The way that they did this. They did this with his bed sheets. Now I want you to think that through for a moment. Wow, bed sheets. They used bed sheets to behead an individual. Now you just think about that For a moment. But this is the religion of peace.
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Hediya Mirmati
And that's also a misnomer because Muslim is one who surrenders to Allah. So it's not peace. It doesn't mean salaam. It means Muslim, which is a surrendering to Allah, surrendering to Islam.
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Jack Hibbs
And the Muslim, the Arabic word Islam means what?
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Hediya Mirmati
To surrender.
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Jack Hibbs
To surrender, Right. To submit.
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Hediya Mirmati
To submit.
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Jack Hibbs
So just the other day, my good friend, our good friend Frank Turek was talking at Berkeley.
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Hediya Mirmati
Oh, yes.
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Jack Hibbs
And a young woman had said that Islam is the religion of peace. And then he asked her, what is the meaning of the word Islam? And she said, the word means peace. And he said, no, what's the meaning in Arabic? Do you speak Arabic? She said, I actually don't, but she does. The young girl. Did you see it? The young girl said, she does. And the young girl is standing like this. And she said it means submit. And the American Muslim girl looked at her like she had been electrocuted. She heard the word submit. Yes. And so that's, of course, that's what it means. But a lot of Americans, a lot of Christians, don't know also the meaning of Allah. What does the word in Arabic Allah mean?
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Hediya Mirmati
Well, it's a God, but it's a different God.
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Jack Hibbs
No doubt. It's a different God. Is it a noun I've heard you say, right?
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Hediya Mirmati
Yeah.
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Jack Hibbs
Is it an adjective, Is it a verb when someone says that you believe in Allah? Because it's my understanding I may be wrong about this, but if I picked up an Arabic Bible, a Bible that's in Arabic?
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Hediya Mirmati
Yes.
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Jack Hibbs
Wouldn't it say. Would it say, I don't know. I'm honestly asking where the word God appears because I speak Arabic. Wouldn't it be Allah?
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Hediya Mirmati
Yeah, that's the problem.
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Jack Hibbs
It would be. Right. But when the Bible says the Lord, he is God. Now, what does this mean? So capital L, O, R, D is God. Allah is God in Arabic. But what is the God of Arabic's name? Yeah, Does a Muslim know the name of their God?
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Hediya Mirmati
No.
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Jack Hibbs
Why, do you? In Islamic theology, what would an imam tell me if I were to say, Mr. Imam, tell me his name is Allah? No. Yeah. I didn't ask you about that. Allah means God? No. What's his name?
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Hediya Mirmati
You see, what I'm folks, it would have gone around and around like that.
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Jack Hibbs
So they don't know his name?
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Hediya Mirmati
No. I mean, I grew up thinking it was Allah. I assumed that was the name. It's not until I came here, I didn't realize there was.
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Jack Hibbs
I could make This a God. Right. Can't I carve an image out and make it a God?
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Hediya Mirmati
Yes.
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Jack Hibbs
And if an Arab speaking individual walked by and saw me bowing down to this carved image, he would say to his friend, look at that guy, he's bowing down to a. What would he say? Would he bow down to a Allah? Right.
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Hediya Mirmati
He would.
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Jack Hibbs
That's the word for God.
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Hediya Mirmati
I wonder if they would use it in that context though. I wonder if. Because I know we intentionally, when we're speaking to Arab or Persians, we like as a Persian, I use the word khuda, so to distinguish it from Allah. But I don't know in the Arab street, because I'm a Farsi speaker. I don't know if the Christians use the Arabic terminology like the Hamdullah, which is an expression. Thank you God. If the Christians also use that same expression or they try to distinguish it to.
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Jack Hibbs
I see, I see.
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Hediya Mirmati
You know, to make a difference between their God and Allah.
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Jack Hibbs
Good to know. Wow.
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Hediya Mirmati
But yeah, I think for us as Americans, it's important, especially as Christians in our witness to make sure that we know it is not the same God so that we can witness properly to Muslims.
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Jack Hibbs
Yeah. So the point she's making clearly is that the God of Islam is not the God of, of the Bible.
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Hediya Mirmati
Exactly.
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Jack Hibbs
The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Completely different. You were saying about World War I and the second phase, really the end of the Ottoman Empire. Can you pick it up from there?
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Hediya Mirmati
Well, so because they had lost militarily, the next phase was a cultural jihad, which was we will advance by political means, by demographics, by cultural transformation. And it gave rise to the Brotherhood doctrine, the Muslim Brotherhood doctrine, which is 1928. Right. Which is the same principles. And I know you mentioned to me the Grand Mufti of Egypt aligning himself to Hitler. Part of that is also a Marxist communist alliance.
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Jack Hibbs
Yes.
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Hediya Mirmati
And so this alliance goes back decades. It's way before the public attention to the Red Green Alliance. The alliance of that doctrine goes way back decades. And they learn from the Marxist principles on how to advance and take over a society. Which brings us to the point, why are the leftists who have nothing in common with the Muslims aligned to the Muslim candidates? Because, well, what they both seek destruction of the Judeo Christian values.
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Jack Hibbs
I. Since the day I first heard the Red Green Alliance, I immediately, I understood what they meant. But I immediately began to inform my television set. You're missing a color. It's a triad of colors. When you look around, it's the red green. And what's happening Right now, a Red, Green, Blue alliance.
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Hediya Mirmati
Blue being the globalists.
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Jack Hibbs
No, blue being much of the Democrat Party.
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Hediya Mirmati
Ah, okay. Some people call the blue the globalists, that they're being advanced by Soros and all of the.
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Jack Hibbs
I think the red, Green and blue is being funded by Soros and his buddies. But think about that for a moment and listen. By now, it's just everybody's left, this podcast, it's just you and I. The red, we get communism, socialism. We understand that Red, commie, that sane. The green, that's Islamic blue. Why would you say blue? Blue represents the Democrat Party. How dare you say such a thing? I only say it for this reason. Which party hosts more Muslims in that party than the other? The Democrat Party.
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Hediya Mirmati
Oh, for sure, by far.
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Jack Hibbs
In fact, as you and I sit here, there's a couple of them trying to take power right now from the Democratic establishment. As we sit here, I believe it's the Red, Green, Blue alliance, because the Red and Green alliance can't find a home in the red of the Republican Party, at least not yet. Okay, Yeah, I know.
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Hediya Mirmati
If we think about the appointments recently made by this Republican administration, they're making a great foothold.
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Jack Hibbs
Let's blow this podcast up then, and say it.
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Hediya Mirmati
So there are a number of interlocutors. The mayor of Hamtrak, the first Sharia city, was appointed to ambassadorship of Kuwait. Ted Cruz is basically holding up his nomination. We'll see if the vote goes through.
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Jack Hibbs
So wait, wait, wait. He was nominated for this position by who?
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Hediya Mirmati
By President Trump. That's the only way.
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Jack Hibbs
Ambassador, President Trump somewhat recently nominated. Who's this?
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Hediya Mirmati
Amr Ghalib, the mayor of Hamtrak. He's one of six Muslim mayors around America. But he is the. He got the phrase of being the first Sharia city because his entire city council is Muslim.
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Jack Hibbs
And so Trump rewards him because of.
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Hediya Mirmati
The Michigan Muslim vote.
- [33:36]
Jack Hibbs
To get the Michigan vote, yes.
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Hediya Mirmati
He went to a number of events. They've spoken together. There's this clip of them at a rally with the entire Trump family, and he praises him. He's a smart man. He's a good man. And he gets up and endorses Trump, and so this is the favor he gets. Before we went on air, we talked about the federal prosecutor in Los Angeles, Bill Asale, that's also gotten a post. And so there's a number of other people that may get appointments and positions in this administration which will likely make them Republican candidates. So I don't think it's going to stay entirely Democratic.
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Jack Hibbs
That's right. In fact, in California, there's reasons to believe generationally. I don't want to say generationally, but for the last 40 years, could be a generation, isn't it that for the last 40 years, just like a church might groom train school missionaries to go into Zimbabwe or some country to share the gospel, in California, there's, there's reasons why I believe that there have been Democrats that took the missionary model and got into, as it were, a huddle and said, I will run as a Republican, I'll act Republican, I'll have an R behind my name. But when I get into office, or enough of us get into office with the R behind our name, we will do Democrat ideology, whatever it might be.
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Hediya Mirmati
Or Islamist ideology or, or whatever.
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Jack Hibbs
Or whatever. So you say, jack, that's redeemed. How could you say that? It's not easy for me to say because if I really contemplate on what is really going on, it's very disheartening because it means that our constitutional form of a republic is gone. It's been infiltrated. Evil actors have now gone into. And they didn't view politics as politics. They viewed politics as an entry for a missionary venture to advance their religion, which their religion is big government, big socialism, anything but a republic.
- [35:54]
Hediya Mirmati
So you don't think we have a fighting chance? Because I think if the church were to activate and realize the threat, they should be able to respond and at least have some victories.
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Jack Hibbs
Let me, let me. Let's rewind this. This is what I. This is what I heard you say just now. Wherever there's a fight, let's go. So I hope the church shows up to the fight. The fight's going to happen, right? I just hope it's a big one and we win. Do I have faith in the Christian to fight for what's right? Do I have faith in the Christian to resist a death cult and socialism and Marxism? I don't have faith in the Krishna to do that unless God wakes them up. Because you got to remember, Hedia, I have been crying with a few others for over 30 years in California to pastors to wake up and teach the Bible chapter by chapter, verse by verse, expository manner. But at the same time, because the Holy Spirit is relevant today, he's actually alive. The Holy Spirit is alive today, which means the Bible is relevant to today's newspaper. For some reason, pastors just can't connect those dots. They just don't see Jesus or the Gospel or the Spirit relevant for today. So how dare you say that it's easy to say when the culture is crumbling and being invaded in its curriculum in every which way by Islamic infiltration and progressive infiltration. The church you go to on Sunday is telling you about five principles on how to be happy.
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Hediya Mirmati
Well, I would like to.
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Jack Hibbs
That is a losing strategy, folks.
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Hediya Mirmati
I would like to tell your audience publicly, if anybody wants me to come out to their church and train them on Islamism and how you fight back, I will make myself available. Where do they.
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Jack Hibbs
How do they get ahold of you to do that?
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Hediya Mirmati
It's either they can DM me on Instagram. Hediyamuramati my name, I believe it's printed out on the podcast. Or Resurrect Ministry and they could just drop me a line and send me a comment.
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Jack Hibbs
Resurrectministry.org.com resurrect ministry resurrectministry.com take her up.
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Hediya Mirmati
On that offer because I really think. And even if we don't take back the whole country, what I said to one of our local pastors is I want to inoculate the 15 kids that I know.
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Jack Hibbs
Exactly.
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Hediya Mirmati
The youth ministry. If I just get these 15 kids, these 30 kids, and they are strong enough in their faith, well, that will multiply.
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Jack Hibbs
Could you imagine in California, These are pulpits. These are pulpits in California. Could you imagine if one pastor started educating his flock to live a relevant Christian life? 24, 7, 365. Do you know that? Do you know that California or Missouri would change on one Sunday?
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Hediya Mirmati
Absolutely.
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Jack Hibbs
In one Sunday it would happen.
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Hediya Mirmati
Well, again, if we look back at history, it took Christians 300 years to wake up. But they did wake up. They became the two swords of Christ, where the Lord says, do you have a sword? And they said, no. They said, sell your cloak and buy one. Well, they started to live that principle. So maybe one day the church will.
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Jack Hibbs
I'm glad you brought this up. So I looked at a seventh grade social studies book here in California and I forget the chapter number. Shame on me. But I read it and it had a picture of various Muslim warriors and how they were advancing. They didn't call them warriors, by the way. They were advancing agriculture into Europe. They were taking the secrets of drip irrigation. They were taking all of this into Europe. But Europe didn't understand because it shows a picture, a cartoon of a crusader who was ignorant. He couldn't read. In fact, even he was wounded in battle. And it was the Muslims who took care of him and healed him. This is in a California I'm telling you that's the history 7th grade social studies book. Yeah. Okay, so I'm saying that to say this. Woe, woe, bad. Boo, boo. Christian crusaders. How dare you. How dare you. But when you take a study and look at the amount of Jihad versus Crusader response, it's shocking.
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Hediya Mirmati
Shocking. I mean it's not even, not even close. It was a defensive battle. They followed just war theory. It was literally a defensive battle. There's a great scholar, Raymond Ibrahim, who's written seven books on this, basically trying to re educate the world on the history of the Crusades and just this conflict, this never ending conflict wherever Islam encounters Christianity. And I encourage people to listen to him because we really need to relearn this. I was totally red pilled because here I was with a history degree and I didn't know any of that perspective. And so I think Christians need to understand where we've been and take a look at where we're going and decide, you know what? I am going to get involved in local politics. I'm going to find candidates and put my treasure and talent behind them winning. So school boards, city councils, state officials, federal, get involved at all levels. I'm going to make sure my kids understand the news, understand these pro Palestinian rallies, understand what Islam is and is not. And I'm going to make sure that my community feels that they're empowered to respond to these things. So whether I blog about it, I put social media posts, this one lady goes to a city council meeting to complain about the prayers in the morning and the clip went all over the world. I think there was 53 million views last time I saw it. So that one woman taking the courage to go up and be like, hello, I don't want the call to prayer outside my window every day is going to change policy all over this country. So could you imagine if we did that in every city council meeting where any kind of deviant practices are going on, we can impact change, but we have to do it from the ground up.
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Jack Hibbs
Yeah. So yeah, I mean, I guess this is for some other time. I was going to say yes to everything you just said. The Muslim understands that if they can get 10% of the population or 10% of the school board or 10% of the city council or the county board of supervisors, they win. The thing is the Christian has got to stop thinking that Christianity only applies to certain areas because you have to have a Christian, a biblical worldview. If you're going to make a difference, you have to. I'm going to let you Keep going. I've interrupted you enough. Historical pathology, Communism, socialism, Islam.
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Hediya Mirmati
You want to talk about our Ahmed Ashara, Their recent terrorist visit to the United States go well, Because I think so. It's not only the conquest that's happening here in the United States, but it's also our foreign policy. So President Trump welcomes Ahmed Ashar, the new leader of Syria. And up until last year, there was a $10 million bounty on his head because he was the leader under the nom de guerre Sheikh Jelani. He was the leader of Hezbollah, Tahir Hashem. So he breaks off. He was part of Nusra Front, the Syrian Al Qaeda, responsible for death of thousands of soldiers. And he has this interview. I can't remember the interview on Fox a couple nights ago. And she's like, but you were an Al Qaeda terrorist. And he Sundays, I was 19. I was young. He was not 19 during that war.
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Jack Hibbs
Just like the ones coming across the border illegally. Same age. Kids do crazy things.
- [43:48]
Hediya Mirmati
And he totally lied.
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Jack Hibbs
First of all, of course he gets to so.
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Hediya Mirmati
But because he pulled. Because he's now considered credible. Throughout my career, my job was to try to build moderate Muslim networks, reformers that were trying to change the interpretation of Koran.
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Jack Hibbs
And your exposure was no lightweight community. I traveled project.
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Hediya Mirmati
No. I traveled 37 countries. I worked under five presidential administrations, you know, multiple ones of Bush and Obama. Millions of dollars.
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Jack Hibbs
You had a White House clearance.
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Hediya Mirmati
I had a TSSCI clearance, the highest level of security clearance. I was at FBI headquarters building an intervention program to stop ISIS terrorists and kids from radicalizing. And every time we encountered. Every time we tried to build a moderate network, we were overrun by people in the US Government and outside saying, these people have no credibility. You can't use these people. And Trump used the exact words about Ashara. He's a tough guy, but you have to be in that region. He has credibility. So constantly, we do not have a centuries paradigm. We don't look at things in terms of 100 years. And we're like, if we give this guy this piece of land for that amount of money and we pump his gas, he's going to continue wearing his suit and be a nice guy.
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Jack Hibbs
That's right.
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Hediya Mirmati
Meanwhile, Christians are being massacred, Alawites are being massacred. And he says, that's isis. That's not me. He plays terrorist. Alphabet soup. He says, that's not my organization, but those are the bad guys.
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Jack Hibbs
Isn't it amazing? Obviously, everybody, you know this. It's all spiritual, all the time spiritual. So if you were to flip that around, a Christian might say, we. We want to have the Bible in public school as an elective. Right. For literature, which is totally a great idea. The Bible's the most influential book in the history of man. Why not? We've got to do away with Christians. We got to get those people. Oh, my goodness. A Muslim shows up and says, yeah, we want to teach Islam in the school. Oh, you betcha.
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Hediya Mirmati
It's mandatory.
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Jack Hibbs
Yeah, mandatory. You bet. In fact, let's get it mandatory for you. It's. That's a spiritual conclusion. Because it's a spiritual battle. It's remarkable.
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Hediya Mirmati
So, yeah, so even so even now, we're shaking hands with the terrorists, we're putting him in control. We're asking Erdogan, who has declared himself the new. The neo Ottoman Empire for the Ottoman Empire.
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Jack Hibbs
Yes, I'm going to re. Establish it.
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Hediya Mirmati
And he is the one that is defending Al Shara and saying to our administration, just give him a chance. Just give him a chance. He's a good guy. He's changed. Jihadis don't change. That is. And he wasn't even asked to change.
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Jack Hibbs
Yeah, yeah.
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Hediya Mirmati
So he wasn't told to denounce hts. He was just taken off the terrorist list.
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Jack Hibbs
So what do you think of people like Patel and Bongino? Are they just being a yes man to Trump or are they honest? I mean, these guys have data access to them. Are they. Where are they? What are they?
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Hediya Mirmati
I've met people like that throughout my career. I mean, respectable, honorable people. And they just don't believe that these guys will defeat us. They just don't. In their core, a lot of them were atheists, and they didn't believe that they have an eternal worldview to defeat us. So they believed everything was a numbers game. Everything was about power. I mean, George Bush even thought if we gave them freedom, then they would change. So Trump is saying, if I give them money, if I give them status, they're going to change. Yeah, it's just a different playbook. But I don't think most of them want to harm America a lot, especially in this administration. But they're naive to think I go have a shot of whiskey with this Saudi cleric and maybe even go to a strip club, and that means he's.
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Jack Hibbs
A moderator, and that's part of the taqiyah. That's part of, oh, shucks, I have to go drink with these guys and go to a strip club because I'm advancing the Islamic agenda. The Christian can't even wrap their mind around what you just said cannot. What? Okay, I get it.
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Hediya Mirmati
And I personally know people, dozens of them who had gone through that experience.
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Jack Hibbs
Hey listen, I, I got to see a copy of Bin Laden had written the devotion, call it a word of encouragement to the 911 terrorists that morning that they had gotten up that day on September 11th. They read, all of them read. Wherever they were at, they all read that same thing from Bin Laden and the investigations by the FBI post 9 11. Almost all of them, if not all of them, before they took their baths and shaved their bodies, they went out.
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Hediya Mirmati
With hookers and partied their tails off.
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Jack Hibbs
Yes, yes. That's a mild way of putting it, but yeah. Wow.
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Hediya Mirmati
And people again, that goes back to Mamdani's wife in her clothes that people, Americans don't understand that kind of duplicity. Me and my former Muslim believing friends, like we have a small group of us. One of the greatest liberties in Christ is we no longer live in that duplicity.
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Jack Hibbs
Yeah.
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Hediya Mirmati
We had one life to our parents, one life to our friends, one life to our co workers. Sometimes we couldn't even keep track of all the lies. You know, I mean my parents thought I was an angel and I was completely off the rails.
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Jack Hibbs
Yeah.
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Hediya Mirmati
So it's a constant deception and we learn it from little children. As a little child, we're born with that, you know, and they don't understand that this is the culture. Because if you really were to just listen, if you would just watch memories videos, listen to what they say directly. They tell you the doctrine.
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Jack Hibbs
Yeah, that's right.
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Hediya Mirmati
They tell you what they believe. But we choose to ignore it.
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Jack Hibbs
That's right.
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Hediya Mirmati
Our politicians choose to ignore it.
- [50:20]
Jack Hibbs
So we'll show you this graph or this map.
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Hediya Mirmati
Yes. So this is actually produced by cair. So they wanted.
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Jack Hibbs
This is from cair. This is from cair, Council of America for Islamic Relations.
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Hediya Mirmati
Yes. They created a map to show what states have been conquered. That's not the way they describe it, but they call it the American Muslim Elected officials by state. And so this is a two year old map. So they said they're going to reproduce a new one because they have 42 new candidates. But it's basically documenting what states have the most elected officials that are Muslim.
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Jack Hibbs
This is fascinating. So let's hear. Are you able to point out a few.
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Hediya Mirmati
Oh yeah, sure. So we have California has 26.
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Jack Hibbs
Surprise, surprise, surprise.
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Hediya Mirmati
Right. And Michigan has 37, which I'm sure is going to be up from that now. Illinois has 15, Massachusetts has 10. You wouldn't think Massachusetts. Right. It's not as obvious. But let me also identify what is Texas. Texas is seven. I know that number now is higher because we have the Epic setter, the Epic city complex that was talked about in the news, if you recall, it was about them trying to build the Sharia based city. You want to talk about that for a minute?
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Jack Hibbs
Talk about that for a moment and then tell our friends in Idaho what's happening in Idaho.
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Hediya Mirmati
Oh, right.
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Jack Hibbs
So.
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Hediya Mirmati
So Epic city in Texas, they were creating a Sharia enclave and it got all this media attention again, folks from making social media posts, complaining, going to city council meetings. They'll go to those meetings and complain. And it brought all of this attention. Texas Attorney General, the governor. But it also opened a federal investigation. And the thing about them is that they were clever. It was facially neutral. In other words, they did not say specifically that no Christians could live there. They just said that the homeowners association would pay for the mosque and the school. So what Christian is going to want to live there and have their homeowner dues pay for the mosque?
- [52:24]
Jack Hibbs
Zero.
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Hediya Mirmati
You know. And so the federal Department of Justice closed their investigation, but the attorney general now has found underlying crimes. For example, they run a funeral home without a license. They're running some kind of fraudulent Ponzi scheme, selling property with no utilities, no map. They're basically saying they're going to build homes, but they have no permits. So there are other kind of institutional roadblocks, but mark my words, that place is going to get built.
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Jack Hibbs
Yeah.
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Hediya Mirmati
And there are many in the works across the United States, especially Northern California and other parts of Texas.
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Jack Hibbs
Yeah. And let's be honest, if they can do it, very smart of them. Do it in Texas because you talk about fight. And so if you're going to, if you are going to prosecute a war.
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Hediya Mirmati
I'm just thinking imagining a map with the little plastic tanks.
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Jack Hibbs
Exactly. You take out the strongest first and the rest fall.
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Hediya Mirmati
Yes.
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Jack Hibbs
So it's interesting. Who am I reading here? What is this? It's a mosque in Bronx. Quote, I want to use this moment to speak to the Muslims of New York City. No more living in the shadows. So this is a quote from mom, Danny. Yeah, I think it is. November 4th victory speech. I am young and I am a Muslim. I refuse to apologize for being a Muslim. And no more will New York be a city where you can traffic in Islamophobia and win an election. So good for him. Good for him. Good for him. Because he's so committed as a Muslim, he is announcing out loud, I'm a Muslim, and everything about this city is going to go Muslim. And by the way, some are speculating that this December 24th. I'm sorry, this December in New York City at the Rockefeller center, will be the last Christmas. You know, that's a huge tradition. Will be the last Christmas in New York for as long as Mandani is the mayor. That said, good for him. He's doing what the Christian is not doing. Can you imagine? I am young, I'm a Christian, and I refuse to apologize for being a Christian.
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Hediya Mirmati
No one would lose their minds.
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Jack Hibbs
Can you imagine? We should.
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Hediya Mirmati
Christian fascists.
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Jack Hibbs
You know how Babylon Bee does their amazing stuff. We should maybe invent something like that, where we take some statement by somebody, right, that the whole nation is going to be brought to Islam. We should change it and say the whole nation is going to be brought to Christianity and do some fake news and then reveal later. Maybe we could do.
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Hediya Mirmati
How hostile people would get. Oh, just lose their minds.
- [55:23]
Jack Hibbs
They would lose their minds completely. So from.
- [55:27]
Hediya Mirmati
Sorry, sorry. You want to go to Idaho.
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Jack Hibbs
Exactly. From Texas to Idaho. What's going on?
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Hediya Mirmati
So the peace agreement. We didn't talk about the Israeli peace agreement. So the peace agreement. As Trump was doing his Arab tour, there were a number of deals. We didn't know all the details, but once the peace agreement came out, which we brought Qatar to the table. That was one of the major negotiators. Qatar in Turkey. It is revealed that Qatar, part of their aid package, their bonus was a military installation inside our military base in Idaho. So they get their own facility to train.
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Jack Hibbs
We'll press this more in a second. Let me pretend. So why was Qatar at the table?
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Hediya Mirmati
Well, because they needed to put. Supposedly because they were going to help push Hamas.
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Jack Hibbs
Why would Qatar have any influence to push Hamas?
- [56:21]
Hediya Mirmati
Because they've been funding Hamas.
- [56:23]
Jack Hibbs
That's it. She fell for it. Yeah.
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Hediya Mirmati
That's where it's like telling your child, shut up right now. We're going to negotiate.
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Jack Hibbs
So you fund terrorism, Qatar, create the.
- [56:35]
Hediya Mirmati
Problem and then bring the solution.
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Jack Hibbs
There's an Islamic word for this, but this is a tactic. So Qatar, we're going to fund Hamas, create a problem, and then President Trump and the team comes, they invite us in on the peace talks, and. And we're the ones actually that are guilty for funding all this stuff. The blood's on our hands, but no one's noticing. So let's push it. Hey, can we. Can we build a military unit on one of your existing military bases in. Let me think. In red Idaho. Can we do that? Yes. For being such good players, yes, you can.
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Hediya Mirmati
This goes back to what I said about credibility when we were trying to build moderate networks. They say, you have no credibility. You can't bring people to the table. So diplomatically, historically, that's what we always do, is we go to the big bully in the room and say, what could we give you to stop fighting? But they don't understand the tactics of their enemy, that they will take your concessions and bury you with them.
- [57:47]
Jack Hibbs
That's right.
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Hediya Mirmati
You know, we just don't understand our enemies. So we allow them to create this. This military installation to bring dozens of Qatari families, soldiers. And then what happens besides just the base? They have to build a mosque. They have to build a whole mosque on the base. Or around.
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Jack Hibbs
Or close by.
- [58:05]
Hediya Mirmati
Or close. Close by. To establish their families.
- [58:07]
Jack Hibbs
But then religiously, that is an Islamic footprint of dominance. We on this area.
- [58:12]
Hediya Mirmati
Exactly. Because as far as I know, I don't think Idaho's on this map. Right.
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Jack Hibbs
It's not on the map.
- [58:20]
Hediya Mirmati
Idaho has not yet been conquered.
- [58:22]
Jack Hibbs
It's going to be this. In fact, the updated map. This is two years old.
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Hediya Mirmati
Yeah.
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Jack Hibbs
So the updated map will have Idaho as fallen. Yep.
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Hediya Mirmati
It. And it's. I didn't realize that back until just now. So they had no footprint in Idaho until this installation was agreed upon. And maybe they chose that on purpose because we have military installations everywhere. Why did Qatar choose Idaho?
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Jack Hibbs
Why did. Look, I'm just guessing. If it works in Idaho, then it's going to work in Wyoming and Montana. Just think about that for a moment. The spine of this nation is that is our nuclear strength. And they're asking, telling you, man, you got to give it to them. They're asking to do this on a military base.
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Hediya Mirmati
Yeah.
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Jack Hibbs
It's amazing to me. So. Sorry. Keep going. Or is it?
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Hediya Mirmati
No.
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Jack Hibbs
Okay.
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Hediya Mirmati
So I don't know how much more depressing we can get post.
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Jack Hibbs
You know what, though? Sometimes being woken up is depressing. Yeah. You don't want to wake up on Saturday morning, but that's too bad. So. November 5th, post victory statement. Mandani. This campaign has awakened something powerful in New York's South Asian and Muslim communities. Interesting. He said South Asian because he's Pakistani. A sense of visibility, pride, and political belonging that's been denied for generations. Let's talk about this for a moment. Is Mandani a Muslim? He said he was.
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Hediya Mirmati
He said he was.
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Jack Hibbs
And he said he's a young one. What religion in the world is. I don't know if commanded is the right word, but what religion in the world is obliged by killing homosexuals?
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Hediya Mirmati
Islam. Punishable by death. Homosexuality.
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Jack Hibbs
So wait, so Islam regarding Islam and homosexuality. Lbgtq, whatever. Islam in its religious doctrine. Islam. Mandani is a Muslim. New York. The doctrine of Islam says kill the sexually aberrant.
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Hediya Mirmati
Yes. That's a Sharia compliant.
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Jack Hibbs
That's Sharia compliant requirement. So all the progressives, the blue color in my triad are running around, see how that goes. Islam, Islam, Islam.
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Hediya Mirmati
Sharia's coming to New York.
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Jack Hibbs
And they'll say. I'm assuming they're going to say yes, it's in time for a new. It's time for a new age. A new New York. Yes. All this and all the. All the parade, the rainbow, all of that. And little do they know that the doctrine of this man's belief system already has them on the chopping board.
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Hediya Mirmati
And we have an example. Hamtrack banned Pride flags. So you. And I personally don't care for them, but I don't want them banned.
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Jack Hibbs
Yeah, exactly. I mean, I don't like them, but.
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Hediya Mirmati
I don't like them.
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Jack Hibbs
I ban them.
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Hediya Mirmati
But he did. Yeah, because he has an all Muslim city council. So he banned Pride flags.
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Jack Hibbs
What did lgbtq. What is LBGTQ saying about.
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Hediya Mirmati
Nothing.
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Jack Hibbs
That city.
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Hediya Mirmati
I mean a couple people complained at a city council meeting, but they didn't do anything about it. And there's a lot of data coming out on Mamdani and how he was funded. So there's this very long standing. I know her very well from D.C. linda Sarsour, a long term Islamist. Right. You see her yelling and never stops the mouth. So she comes out and basically exposes to the world that it's CARE that funded him. So their unity and justice pact, funneling money through other PACs and through individual donors, gave over $300,000 to Mamdani and are taking credit for care. Taking credit for Mamdani. CAIR was an unindicted co conspirator in the Holy Land Foundation.
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Jack Hibbs
Holy Land Foundation.
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Hediya Mirmati
They should have been banned. They were banned by the FBI in 2009. They should have been banned in the United States a long time ago. So the fact is we are inept or unwilling to stop the known terror financing Islamist activity. The hard edge, forget the soft edge where people are just, you know, claiming to be socialist.
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Jack Hibbs
Yeah, recreational.
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Hediya Mirmati
But the ones that are funding terrorism and supporting terrorism like Hamas and Hezbollah, we're still not stopping those either. So why do you think? I think it goes back to this credibility thing. We don't. We don't. I mean, I know when I was at FBI headquarters, every time Kerr said something, it created an uproar. Anytime they did a news piece or an article, it's like, oh, what are we gonna do?
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Jack Hibbs
Isn't that annoying?
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Hediya Mirmati
What are we gonna do? They have an extreme amount of power in D.C. and it's this credibility thing. They speak for a lot of people. That's how millions of people support them. We don't wanna be Islamophobic.
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Jack Hibbs
Isn't that great? They invented that term, Islamophobic, back to that whole thing.
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Hediya Mirmati
They create the problem and then come in as the solution.
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Jack Hibbs
So you got. You have to remember that when somebody says, oh, you're a. You're a something, something. You just got to listen. You just can't let them do that. Say, well, how do I stop them? Ignore them. I like. I think it's Ben Shapiro that said, I refuse to be intimidated. Well, think about that for a moment.
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Hediya Mirmati
Well, that scholar I mentioned, Raymond Ibrahim, he says it like this. He says, a phobia is an irrational fear. I have no irrational fear of Islam.
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Jack Hibbs
Oh, that's good.
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Hediya Mirmati
Yeah. He says, based on the historical context of everything Islam has done, it is not irrational. So that's what I tell people.
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Jack Hibbs
It's true because.
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Hediya Mirmati
It'S in the books, it's in the doctrine, it's in the history. It's in the way they have operated for centuries. Centuries.
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Jack Hibbs
I may not remember right, or I may, but. Bin Laden. Bin Laden. The day that was ordered for September 11, that was not. It's not like they all got their tickets because there was a sale on Expedia that day. That was a very, very specific day. September 11th. And again, I don't remember if it was in. It was one of those talks where, this is your glory, this is your honor. You are doing this for Allah. You are reclaiming the. There was the word, the verbiage of. No longer will September 11th be a day of.
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Hediya Mirmati
I know.
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Jack Hibbs
I can't remember there's a word, but it's been. You know, we've been ashamed. We've been ashamed for all these hundreds of years.
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Hediya Mirmati
There is a significance to that date. But I just. Exactly right now.
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Jack Hibbs
So listen. On September 11, 1683, the Islamic forces came into Vienna, Austria.
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Hediya Mirmati
Oh, okay.
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Jack Hibbs
And the Polish king of Europe called for a unification of forces to fight against the invading jihadists. They met at the gates of Vienna, Austria. It was September 11th that. That European allied war defeated the Muslim invaders. On September 11, 1683. Bin Laden knew that and had chosen September 11.
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Hediya Mirmati
Everything has a context, historical context to them.
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Jack Hibbs
Yeah. And his thing was we've got to reclaim these days. Shame. Well, we're going to rewrite the history of these dates which I was just fascinated by that.
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Hediya Mirmati
That's their perspective on the world. It's a continuum. It's a historical continuum. We think in two year, four year cycles, they think in a hundred year cycles.
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Jack Hibbs
That's why. Listen, everybody needs to read this book so you can get insomnia like me. I read the book the 100 Year Marathon. Have you read this book?
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Hediya Mirmati
No.
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Jack Hibbs
The 100 Year Marathon. It's about China's doctrine to infiltrate the West. 100 year marathon regarding China's infiltration of America. It's fascinating because they think they are telling their grandchildren, children and grandchildren, this is what we're going to do.
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Hediya Mirmati
And I'm fascinated what you think because you know, I'm a student of yours and just listening to you over the years talk about how America, you know, in the last days nobody comes to the defense of Israel and there's, there is no America to come to the defense of Israel.
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Jack Hibbs
Right.
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Hediya Mirmati
So if you think of you brought up the Chinese doctrine and we know the Islamic doctrine. Can you see these forces, the red, green, align. These forces aligning to destroy us. Chinese, Russian, Islamist, look, I'm guessing like a mere mortal.
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Jack Hibbs
But I would say this, that the red, the green, the woke blue and the Chinese red throw any other color into the mix. Everybody knows America has got to be neutralized for any one of them to achieve their desires. Their desires do not match because it only matches for you if you want global dominance and if I want global dominance, but I'm Chinese and you're Persian. In my head I will agree with you to take that guy out because he's the guy that's keeping it from all happening. Once he's out of the way, I'm going after you. I'm going to go after you.
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Hediya Mirmati
Yes.
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Jack Hibbs
So I think they will have alliances for each of their own perceived desire. But you know this. A house divided against itself cannot stand. I think though what we're watching is unless there's a spiritual intervention by God with his people, you're watching the compromise of the nation having lived out its time in 250 years, it will come to its end as we know it and it will become so compromised that imagine this, I'm just pretending, imagine if Trump loses the midterms. I've always thought that by the way I never thought Trump would finish his four years. I hope I'm wrong. But Trump loses the midterms, and I say loses the midterms, he loses the House. All Trump has to do to be neutralized is for him to lose the House. He's got two years of nothingness. Nothing's going to happen. Imagine if you were Israel's enemies and you see this happening. Trump just got neutralized in a big way. Do we strike within now, in the next two years before there's some sort of Republican resurgence? Like, what if J.D. vance runs? Or do we wait because we think politically things are trending in our direction, and in 2028 it would be absolutely a blue wave. And now we control all those people anyway, and Israel is completely abandoned. We'll cut Israel out at the un. We'll make sure this happens. Certainly, we're cutting money off immediately. Think of that. Now. America cannot come, will not come, doesn't care to come to Israel's aid. Thus we fall into the category of all the nations of Ezekiel 38. Look for people to say, we're so close to Ezekiel 38. I agree, we are. But you've got to understand what we're talking about here. For Ezekiel 38 to happen, America has got to be so weak and weakened that it cannot function.
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Hediya Mirmati
Well, I'll tie in one more piece for you. Charlie Crook's assassination. So everybody, let's not even talk about the crazy influencers, talking about all the ridiculous. The most important testimony that I heard was from Kash Patel himself in front of a Senate hearing. And he explained very briefly what they're now calling NVE's. So in my time, it was countering violent extremism. And he is calling this particular sect, because you're not allowed to identify it by Islam, he's calling them nihilistic, violent, extremist. So this is the merger of the red green axis into violence.
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Jack Hibbs
Yes.
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Hediya Mirmati
So they have a new bucket now that they've created for these various attacks. We have a variety of tacks, even on military bases that were implemented by individuals that some people thought, wait a minute, are they right? Are they left? They couldn't tell because all they cared about was just destruction. They're nihilistic, but they were trained through Jihadi ideology, Hitler literature, so they thought they were neo Nazis, but they were reading Hitler literature, Jihadi literature, ISIS literature, communist literature, Marx. Right. Tyler Robinson was part of the Queer Alliance. He was a member in the Queer Alliance. The Queer alliance is run by an Iranian lady, funded by Cuba and other Marxist entities. Exactly, exactly. And I think what's really going to come out, God willing, that this is going to be told correctly, if what I'm predicting is correct, because he just hinted it to it and never mentioned it again, that it will prove that his killer's intention and the network that's behind him is this alliance.
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Jack Hibbs
Interesting.
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Hediya Mirmati
And they took out Charlie Kirk because of what he did for Trump. Not only was he potentially a future candidate, but the ground game attributed to him. So he needed him out by the midterms. Yeah, they needed him out.
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Jack Hibbs
Isn't that something you said? I completely agree with you. The midterms. Midterms. Midterms. Charlie had to go before the midterms.
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Hediya Mirmati
And so it was this powerful alliance.
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Jack Hibbs
Now, look, that is a strategy called warfare.
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Hediya Mirmati
Right.
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Jack Hibbs
And would that be asymmetric? Is that the right terminology?
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Hediya Mirmati
I think so.
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Jack Hibbs
I think it's asymmetric where it's non conventional warfare.
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Hediya Mirmati
Right. And it's not army against army.
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Jack Hibbs
Yeah, exactly. No one's got uniforms. Right. And you don't know who's who. Wow. We have to. Do you have more or do we. I think I got it.
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Hediya Mirmati
I think we talked about Ahmed Ashara. I wanted to talk about Charlie's thing. We talked about us Muslims. I think we got it all.
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Jack Hibbs
Wow.
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Hediya Mirmati
Yeah. The question about Sharia. Sharia law. I think we got it all. Oh, we didn't talk about. The only one we didn't talk about is Lebanon. You had briefly asked me once, like, what?
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Jack Hibbs
Tell me what you know about. Listen, you know way more about this than I do. All I know is, at the time of this podcast, I'm hearing that Lebanon is on the brink of civil war.
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Hediya Mirmati
Yes. Long, always on the brink. I lived in Lebanon in 2006 when the war broke out over the Hezbollah soldiers. And I was scared out of my wits and everyone was like, this is Lebanon. We have civil war every other day. Like, don't get scared. I evacuated anyways. But so here's the problem and the reason this is relevant is Massad Bolas is a Maronite Christian. He is the father in law of Tiffany Trump. So Michael Bolas is married to Tiffany Trump. President Trump gave Mossad Bolas the appointment as special advisor to Arab and Mideast affairs. Massad Bolas was involved in the campaign in Michigan to get the Michigan votes.
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Jack Hibbs
Did he? Oh, for Trump.
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Hediya Mirmati
For Trump.
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Jack Hibbs
I see.
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Hediya Mirmati
Okay. So he helped the mayor of Hamtrak, remember I tell you now, as an appointment to Kuwait, he and Richard Grinnell organized The meeting and they brought the players. I recognize the names from literally 25 years ago. Same players, Syrian, Ekhwan, Brotherhood people. And so what's extremely important about Mossad Bolas influence is that the Christian, the politics of Lebanon is that there are. It's kind of confessional in the sense that the president must be a Christian. But in order to form a governing body, you have to make alliances. So historically, the Shiite's one group, the Sunnis are one group, and the Krishna group, the Christians, majority of them have aligned historically with Hezbollah. They benefited from the weaponry, they've benefited from the protection against the West. They didn't want unreasonable interference from the West. Hariri's party. You remember how he was blown up. That was 2005, after Hariri, Michel Ayoun wins. And that is basically the solidification of Hezbollah's influence.
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Jack Hibbs
Wow.
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Hediya Mirmati
The reason I say this is people look at Masarbolas and they're like, he's a Christian. What's the problem? He is a member of the Maronite Party, historically aligned to Hezbollah, very close to Hezbollah. So he actually returned in the midst of the struggles of Lebanon after the hariri assassination in 2009. He goes to run for parliament under the party that is aligned to Hezbollah, the Christian party that's aligned to Hezbollah. So yes, he is a Christian, but all of those relationships that he has in the Middle east are very close to Hezbollah. So the new president in Lebanon, Joseph Ayoun, who's Western backed, who wants to de arm Hezbollah, he doesn't have a leg to stand on. He can't form a coalition government. He will not be able to sustain his position if he tries to take away the weaponry of Hezbollah.
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Jack Hibbs
Right.
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Hediya Mirmati
So as a Christian president, if he doesn't align himself either to the Sunnis or to the Shias, he will not be able to govern.
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Jack Hibbs
Didn't we hear Trump say something to the effect or hegseth Somebody said that Hamas has got to. Oh, part of the peace deal, wasn't it? Part of Hamas got to be completely disarmed.
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Hediya Mirmati
And Hezbollah, they're trying to disarm Hezbollah too.
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Jack Hibbs
I'm sorry, sorry. Hezbollah in the north.
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Hediya Mirmati
Hezbollah, yes, they're trying to disarm Hezbollah. And so Joseph Ayoun, no relation to the other Michael Ayoun, that was earlier, he's saying, yes, I'm going to disarm him. And he's like, please give me your guns. And they're like, you know what? The bird, you're not getting our guns. They're absolutely Refusing. And all the news articles say that. And so this peace, meanwhile, as it starts to fall apart and Hamas is launching rockets and Iran is rearming and Lebanon is saying, we're not going to play game. We're not going to play games. We still gave Qatar a military base. We still sold that aircraft. So regardless of whether this peace treaty.
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Jack Hibbs
This is absolutely amazing.
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Hediya Mirmati
Ends up in the trash, we still have Idaho subject to concord. So that's what we got out of this deal.
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Jack Hibbs
Yeah. As we wrap this up, you have a real heart for Muslim women.
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Hediya Mirmati
Absolutely. And for Muslims in general. My entire family is Muslim.
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Jack Hibbs
Yeah. In so many ways, the Islamic heaven is a man's heaven. It's a male heaven. It's interesting in some ways also, you know, people don't think about it where Mormonism, its heaven is a very male dominant heaven. For example, in Islam, I think you get 72 virgins.
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Hediya Mirmati
72 virgins.
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Jack Hibbs
Is it the word?
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Hediya Mirmati
The huris, supposedly black eyed, brown eyed. I had one Islamic teacher tell me the women get men too, but I don't know if he was lying.
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Jack Hibbs
They get men, they just get the same man. And so the brown eyed Houthis, and they are 72 of them. And then in Mormonism, you have 199 plus one is your earthly wife. Isn't that interesting?
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Hediya Mirmati
Wow.
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Jack Hibbs
A lot of people don't realize there's probably Mormons right now freaking out. Yeah.
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Hediya Mirmati
Well, why would you want that many?
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Jack Hibbs
Listen, I've had one for 47 years. Very difficult. Yeah. And she's been angelic and it's still difficult.
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Hediya Mirmati
She sure is.
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Jack Hibbs
Yeah. So what would you say to. A Muslim woman who, as example, two Sundays ago here at church said to me, I came to Christ because I had nothing to live for in Islam?
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Hediya Mirmati
So true.
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Jack Hibbs
What does that mean? Speak to them in our departure from this broadcast. Hadiya, speak to them.
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Hediya Mirmati
The greatest secret about salvation that I never knew despite 25 years of interfaith activity, is that Jesus saves. So for the Muslim out there who thinks Jesus was a great prophet and all the other things that Islam teaches you, he so much more than that. So it is accepting the virgin birth, which Muslims believe. It's accepting that he ascended to heaven. That's what we say. That's also what Christians believe, that he will descend to fight the Antichrist in the last days. We believe that too. The Muslims don't tell you about the cross. Allah actually mentions the cross, but tells you he deceived you about who died on the cross.
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Jack Hibbs
Wow.
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Hediya Mirmati
So go back to your book and realize that God is telling you he deceived you about who died on the cross. And listen to the Christian story. Listen to the story of Christ and know who the real Jesus is. Because if you accept the cross, then you know he defeated death, hell, sin and the grave. And with that receive the free gift of salvation and just radically change your life. I lived as a devout Muslim and nothing in me ever changed. I was the same horrible person before and after. And the transformation I've experienced now is only by virtue of the power of the indwelling of the Holy Spirit and that relationship with Christ. So I pray he will meet you. I met Jesus on YouTube, so Jesus will meet you where you are.
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Jack Hibbs
Isn't that something?
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Hediya Mirmati
He's a living God. He is still the waymaker.
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Jack Hibbs
Still the waymaker. Listen Share this podcast with friends and family. You've got to get the word out. This is. This could. It's probably our most consequential podcast that we've put out there because this deals with not only the immediate now, but history backs up the fact that you should be listening to this podcast and not just fluffing it off your shoulder. You should pay attention folks, because ready or not, if you like it or not, Islam is here and it's very excited right now. It's very, very thrilled by the victories politically. But just know this, that if we stand on the side of what is honoring to the Lord, he will not have a stand alone. You may maybe. You're in a community right now and your community's been overrun. Listen, before it's too late, start praying and getting guidance from the Lord and direction, asking God to manifest his power and for him to shine the light in your community. It's never too late as long as you you're alive because Christ is on his throne and heaven awaits all those. Just as Hedy had just said a moment ago, Jesus Christ died on the cross for all of us. He rose again from the dead for all of us. But only those who receive him experience the benefits of his amazing merit and work that he applies to anyone who will repent and believe on Him. Come to the Christ of the Bible, Come to the Lord of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, and he'll set you free. God bless you guys. Until next time.
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Hediya Mirmati
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