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So you think they're demons?
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When I hear about sort of extra natural phenomenon, that's where I go to is the Christian understanding that, you know, there's a lot of good out there, but there's also some evil out there. And I think that one of the devil's great tricks is to convince people we never exist.
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Agreed. What I find excellent is you've got a. Not only a sitting vice president, nowhere does he deny the existence of the reports he says we have these things happening and people are reporting these things happening. And my answer to those things is this a biblical answer?
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Hey everybody, listen to this. Congress is spending millions of dollars on this topic. There's over 2000 plus cases that are being examined. It is a topic that the Congress is now going into, I believe their second or third year alth. It's been discussed ever since about 1946, 1947. And I'm talking about UAPs or UFOs or more. Let's take a look at this. Just recently the program that Benny Johnson hosts had Vice President J.D. vance and Benny Johnson just in that interview jumped right out of the gate and asked this question and so let's do a reaction video. Let's do a reaction. What we heard the Vice President have to say regarding this.
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We saw aliens. Gov, I don't think they're, I don't think they're aliens. I think they're demons anyway, but that's a longer discussion. Well, I can't let you go without because Barack Obama is on this podcast and he goes, yeah, aliens are real.
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But like, here's where they're not. And you know, and so Obama says he gets asked point blank, alien.
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Are aliens realistic? Oh, yeah.
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So it's true. Recently, Barack Obama was asked about aliens. Were they true, are they true? And if you remember, if you know about this, Barack Obama made a comment about the existence of aliens. And then Donald Trump, President Trump jumped in and said he's going to get in trouble for saying that because that's classified information. Trump didn't deny that what Barack Obama was saying was false. President Trump said what Barack Obama is saying is illegal. He's not allowed to divulge that information. I think that might have been a little bit of theater on the president side of things. The point is this, that ever since, in the U.S. anyway, ever since about 1947 in the Roswell events, there have been the discussion that has gone very public and ebbs and flows regarding alien activity, aliens from other worlds, aliens, ufo, unidentified encounters, unidentifiable encounters with alien creatures, things that movies have been based upon. And so much of that drama and that dynamic. And here Benny Johnson just asked the Vice president, what do you think about UFOs? And I really appreciate J.D. vance's response because, look, I'm biased. I think the Bible has the answer for everything. I really do. I'm not saying that because that's the team I'm on. I'm saying that I believe. I think you've heard me say this stuff before. In some ways, I believe that life is rigged to the truth of Scripture. In other words, I'll put it this way, that there's nothing that goes on in life that Scripture doesn't address. What do I base that upon? The actual authority of Scripture that has been established not by any human, not by any man, not by any system, but by God himself. In other words, here we are in the 21st century, in such a technologically advanced age and time in which we're in. And with all of the development of technology and knowledge and information, don't you think by now that the Bible would at least have a crack in it somewhere? That something has been disproven somewhere? And yet still now, today, with all the advancement of technology applied to the scrutiny of the Bible, the Bible stands more sure, more firm than ever before because with every bit of attack, it is able to take the hit. And so why am I saying this? Because listen to this carefully. Second Timothy, excuse me, first Timothy, first Timothy 4:1 says, Paul the Apostle is speaking to Timothy and listen to what he's saying now. The Spirit. The Holy Spirit expressly says that in the latter times of the end days, some will depart from the faith. How come? Giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons. Paul is warning Timothy that in the last days, in the end of days, in the end times, one of the many indicators of the last days. By the way, Jesus said in the last days, right before he returns, there will be signs in the atmosphere, there'll be signs in the heavens and people will be deceived. In fact, Jesus said when the disciples asked him In Matthew chapter 24, beginning in verse one, what will be the sign of these things and the indicator of your return in the end of the world? Jesus first response to that three part question was beware that nobody deceives you. Deception. Deception. Beware that you're not deceived at all is the word that comes from the Bible, is the statement from the Bible. So number one, we immediately know from scripture that there's going to be doctrines of demons and deceiving spirits that are going to be very powerful in the last days. The only way that you're going to be able to stay firm without being deceived, by the way, is to have a firm knowledge of the word of God. I want to repeat that again. Deception is coming at such levels that the only way that you're going to know the truth is if you have the truth of God, which is all truth. By the way, all truth is God's truth. Satan has no truth. Satan has lies. Humans have lies. We have access to the truth. Satan has access to the truth. But truth is of God and truth is always under attack because lies in the spirit realm of darkness hates truth, the doctrines of demons. So regarding what's going on with this interview with J.D. vance, the Vice President, I actually agree 100% with his answer. Now look, here's the truth about the matter. I'm going to give you my response. I'm responding to this interview. You'll have your response. Here's the question. Everyone's going to have their response to this interview. If you believe in it or not. You have your response. The response is global. The response is something that's going to increase, that people are going to craft, that people are going to base their response upon. And that is what is being revealed, what is being seen. And so there's no doubt about it, it's not just Hollywood. We are seeing an increase of reports of UAPs, unidentified anomalies, UAPs otherwise previously known as UFOs. They've moved on now to appearances of things that. That cannot be explained. And the reason why they've changed it to UAP is because there's been so many variations of sworn testimony of what people saw, from US Military, fighter pilots, Navy personnel, Air Force personnel, to airline pilots, to captains of ships and people at sea. Things that have been seen. And what is your answer? Let's just dive in. Let's just play along together. The vice President is saying, yep, something's going on we cannot explain. But he says because he's a Christian, he views them through a biblical worldview lens that they're not aliens, but that they are demonic manifestations. I personally believe that. I do not believe there are creatures from other planets. One of the reasons why that if we know that physics is true, and it is true, and even theoretical physics, even in that realm of theoretical physics, there are certain laws that have to be obeyed. Listen. And in theoretical physics, that also means that those certain laws are laws that can be manipulated or changed. So you might say, jack, I believe in aliens because they're from another world and another realm. And. Okay, that's fine. That's fine. You still have to explain based upon, at least beginning, Based upon the present understanding of physics. Physics is a profound law of truth. Okay, so where do these beings, where do they come from? How long does it take them to get here? If they're from somewhere else and they're traveling here, we know that there are bodies of celestial entities, places that if someone's going to travel from there to here, we're talking light years. Light years. So light is a product of physics, of the natural realm of physics. Light. It's the fastest thing we know of the speed of light. That said, if these things are traveling at the speed of light, we would see them coming. We would be able to detect them. Think of that for a moment. For example, I'll be off on this because my memory fails me. But the last time I checked, the sun is roughly 93 million miles from where I'm sitting. And if the sun, if it takes something like eight minutes, almost nine minutes for the light that my eyes see and my skin feels on a sunny day, it takes about eight to nine minutes for that experience to reach me. I am, in other words, what I'm seeing and feeling, that light is already nine minutes old, okay, Just by the virtue of the distance of the sun. So where are these creatures coming from? If they're just physical aliens, run of the mill, ufo, Close Encounters, Hollywood version, You see, these things appear and disappear. Sometimes they're tracked on radar. And sometimes they're not tracked on radar. Sometimes they are orbs or they're shapes that immediately enter into the realm of either the earth or the ocean. And there's no splash. There's none of that. So what's going on? My argument to you is simply this, that with the increased conversation now that's taking place since this interview came out, since Barack Obama interviews, interviewed a couple of weeks ago on this President Trump making comments about it more and more, congressional hearing which is taking place, by the way, now I believe still, maybe I'm wrong on this, but at the time when I sat down with Tim Burchard in his office, Congressman Tim Burchard from Tennessee, and we discussed this topic, he was the chairman. I don't know if he's still the chairman today. Forgive my ignorance on that, but it's still a topic that you and I are paying for that's being investigated. And pilots have said it is an absolute danger to airspace and to travel. So you might say, well, Jack, what's your explanation? Deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons? I think we're seeing an increased manifestation in these things. Which, by the way, at the end of this podcast, I'm going to make sure that you have the opportunity to click the link that's in the description and you can go to a full blown teaching that I give on this, which is 100% more involved Bible and science. I've got testimony videos. You can watch that and learn more about it. And I encourage you to do that. But I just want you to know that we all have to answer this response by the vice president. We all have to find our answer on this. So Jesus died on the cross in this world for the sins of all mankind. The Bible teaches, like Titus 2:13, that we are waiting for the blessed hope that is the coming of the Lord to pick us up. The blessed hope and the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ. Great God and Savior. There's only one God. There's only one Savior, and that is the Lord Jesus Christ. The Bible says this in Titus 2:13, among many other verses, God is one. The Bible says, manifested God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit, from Genesis to Revelation. That is fundamental to Christianity. You don't believe that, then you can't be a Christian because it's one of the tenets of the Christian faith. That said, how did you hear that verse I read a moment ago? While we wait for the blessed hope and the glorious appearing, there are those who are saying, in fact, I'm laughing right now because if any of you are viewing this and you live in Southern California and you've been to a Laker game at the Crypto center, formerly the Staples center, on one of the streets when you're trying to find your parking spot on one of the streets is the Church of Jesus Christ ufo, alien something church. And it's pretty crazy because it's a church in Los Angeles, of course, and basically preaches there that Jesus was an alien. I'm just going to go out on a limb here and say as we get deeper into this topic in time, a month from now, two years from now, five years from now, if the Lord tarries in coming, I believe you're going to hear more and more of the excuse that Jesus was an alien. I think you're going to hear more and more of that. Jesus was an alien. For a lot of people that's going to answer a lot of things. Jesus was an alien. That's why he could do these remarkable acts of physics and even deny physics because he is like aliens, right? He could appear and disappear. Didn't he do that after the resurrection? He appeared and disappeared suddenly, instantly. Didn't he walk on water before? Yep, he did all that. Oh, because he's an alien. Well, you can either take that approach because you are going to have an answer to the uap, the ufo, the alien encounter stuff, all of these people who isn't this interesting, by the way, people who say that they have had alien encounters by far, overwhelmingly so most of them say that they were tampered with sexually regarding the reproductive system. They were probed, they were examined, they were tested in their reproduction areas. Why is that? That takes me back to Genesis chapter 6. Again, reference the link in the description below and go to that in depth Bible study I gave. I got to tell you, I gave this Bible study and it made it to secular press. It made it into some news. That said, I'm tracking with J.D. vance here. I think it's biblical. I think it makes sense. I think it tracks with what Jesus and the prophets forewarned us about. Let's take a little bit, listen more to what J.D. vance has to say and he goes,
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but they're not at Area 51.
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Well, where are they? Well, that's what he says, right? It's a great question.
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Trump had to go save him and he said he's going to declassify.
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So you think they're demons?
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Well, look, I think that celestial beings who fly around who do Weird things to people. I think that the desire to describe everything celestial, everything is otherworldly, to describe it as aliens. I mean, every great world religion, including Christianity, the one that I believe in, has. Has understood that there are weird things out there and there are things that are very difficult to explain. And I naturally go, when I hear about sort of extra natural phenomenon, that's where I go to is the Christian understanding that, you know, there's a lot of good out there, but there's also some evil out there. And I think that one of the devil's great tricks is to convince people he never existed.
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Agreed. What I find excellent is you've got a. Not only a sitting vice president. You might want to go back and replay that, make sure you heard it correctly. Nowhere does he deny the existence of the reports. He says, we have these things happening and people are reporting these things happening. And my answer to those things is this a biblical answer. That's what he's. I'm paraphrasing, but that's what he just said. And I want to challenge you, especially the believer that's on this podcast right now with me together, is we need to have answers for people in this area. This is going to become increasingly more and more an apologetic answer to the days and the age in which we live in. And I'm not being a prophet. I'm not saying, thus saith Jack, I. I'm saying Jesus and the apostles and the prophets of the Old Testament have already made this very clear that not only should we have an answer for everything that goes on and around us and for the hope that we have in Christ, but we as believers, if we really know the true and living God, then you and I should be able to converse with people who come to us with anything and everything. And when we don't know, we can simply and honestly say, I don't know the answer to that. But I'm going to research the Bible more in light of what you're saying to see what evidence may be in scripture to answer your question. Well, if the increase of questions regarding alien activity is on the rise, then that makes it incumbent to the Christian to have the answer. I think Vice President Vance has the answer. It is reasonable. Listen, it's reasonable. It scientifically tracks with the current understanding of the laws of science. And it also is in harmony with the scriptures, where the Bible warns us that fallen angels, not demons, fallen angels, they can appear what looks like to be an angel of light. The Bible says. The Bible says we better be careful how we Treat strangers. Because many people, unless knowingly, have entertained angels without being aware. That's in the Book of Hebrews in the New Testament. The Bible says this. The Bible says this, that the person that we could be talking to, that stranger maybe in line at the store or somebody maybe at the game or who knows where, could be an undercover angel. For what reason, I don't know. But the Bible says it happens. The Bible says it's not uncommon. Isn't that wild? Now, here's what's funny. Some of you are going, that's nuts. But you're the one that's also saying, I believe in aliens. And then I just said, watch out, because you can be talking to a stranger and that stranger can be an angel, says the Bible. And then you go, that's nuts. One is a fact and the other one is your assumption. I want to take my assumptions and bring them into the realm of facts, or at least in the vicinity of facts. Are there invisible things? The Bible says, yes, there is. Are there deceiving demonic manifestations? The Bible says there is. Law enforcement entertains this issue. Psychiatrics entertains this issue. Psychology entertains this issue. Certainly Christian clergy and Christians often have to entertain the reality of these things. It's real. The moment we begin to really begin to entertain the reality of it all, we get too uncomfortable, and so we don't have an answer. So we'll make fun of it, trying to discredit it because it makes us feel better. And all the while we walk away a little bit uncomfortable on the inside because we've got this nagging thought that what I just talked about or heard or was being discussed could possibly be real. The world calls it paranormal when they can't explain anything and they won't go to the Bible, they'll call it paranormal. Something outside of our realm that exists, but we don't know quite what it is. And so we'll call it paranormal alongside, para means alongside the normal. Something on the other side, something in the other world, the spirit realm. It's not a joke. It's not a joke. Again, I'm a big fan of physics, but, you know, here I am sitting at a table. Maybe you are as well, or maybe you're driving down the road listening to this. And science tells you, physics tells you that this table, if we were to remove all of the space that's between the molecules that make up this table, this table would be maybe about 2 inches tall and about 2 inches wide. You say, jack, you're insane. I'm actually Regurgitating actual science. The space between molecules. Molecules is what you hear right now being hit by my finger. Molecules are what make up things. But between molecules is space, actual gap. And when you take it, when you take something, when you take something and you suck, as it were, in a vacuum, all the space out from the actual molecules, it's shrunk down to like honey. I shrunk the kids. Remember that cute little kid movie? But listen, in the realm of physics, that's actually a truth. And that gets weird for us. But I'm breathing right now, and so are you. And I'm breathing in things right now that my eyes cannot see because my eyes are limited in their scope of what it can see. My eyes. Your eyes are based upon a frequency regarding the visible. Visible versus invisible. The IR versus the visible spectrum of light. Things that exist. And yet I'm breathing, and I'm breathing in O2 molecules and carbon and nitrogen and the very elements of this atmosphere. But you don't see it. I don't see it. But a special device can see it. There's ways for us to measure those things, but they're invisible to us. Since that is true in the physical realm that there are things that exist that are invisible to the human eye, then it's no stretch that there are things that exist in the spiritual realm, on the other side of this conversation, so to speak, that are more real than what this is right now between you and I. Because it is of the spirit realm. Friend, as strange as this sounds, the physical realm that you and I live in is not as real as the spiritual realm that exists. Listen, the spiritual realm existed before the physical realm was ever created. Genesis 1:1 says in the beginning, God created. That was not the beginning of all things. That was the beginning of this physical realm of creation. For example, God has existed eternally. There was no beginning with God because he's spirit. But the one true spirit God invented created spoke into existence the angelic realm. Think of that for a moment. The angelic realm. God created angels. The Bible says in many places of the Bible, angels are not equal to God. Angels are not rivals to God or somehow godlike in the sense of equal with God. Oh, no, no, no, no. Angels are created beings that God created. And they came into existence. They now have an eternal existence. They will exist forever, just like you will, by the way. And I will not. This body as it is, but there is. Read John, chapter five. John, chapter five. Read John, chapter five. And you're going to read before you come to the end of that chapter, that there's an eternal forever hell and there's an eternal forever heaven, and there are people that experience either one of those destinations forever. We have to remember that we can get so fixated on this physical realm that we think that this is all that there is. No, listen, I wanted to bring this to your attention because a lot of people are talking about this right now. And again, I want you to go to the link in the descriptions, click on that, and dive into that Bible study. It's. Even though it was done on a Sunday, it's exhaustive. I could have gone a lot deeper if I had more time. But it is much more in depth than what this time together with you and I have had. But I think you'll find it interesting because I replay interviews and questioning coming from Congress in Washington, D.C. as well as play video clips from military aircraft and eyewitness testimony. The point is this. This is one reporter's opinion. I believe there's going to be an increase in uap, UFO reports and experiences based on the Bible. I believe that the obsession that these things have with the reproductive system of humans is for a reason. Genesis, chapter six. I believe that this increase will be part of a vast and massive form of deception that will be used by Satan to dupe the world. And I finally, I believe that the only way that you can steer clear of this fog of deception, this daze of D A Z E of deception is to know what the Bible teaches in totality, from COVID to cover, the word of God, the Bible. So it's pretty fascinating stuff. Imagine, you know, I'll end with this as this investigation, or I should say, over 2,000 cases are being investigated by our current Congress as presidents and vice presidents, among so many others are saying, it's not if we're seeing stuff, it's what is it that we're seeing? If this is what's going on, since this is what's going on, you got to get this answered for your own life. Because if you don't, you're going to get deceived. And could it be? Could it be. Now, I'm going out on a limb here. So look, I'm indicting myself on this so you don't have to text me or write me or post anything. I'm throwing myself under the bus here, just pretending. What if there's increasingly more unusual activity? What if this plays out and all of a sudden, by the way, a whole lot of people are instantly gone and somebody comes along and says, see? Told you, this is all that uap, ufo, alien stuff going on. In fact, they helped us out. They got rid of all those crazy, stupid, weird Christians. They came to rescue us from these crazy, knuckle dragging, Bible believing Christians. And so we're going to leap now into our next step of evolution. We're not going to evolve into some superhuman. Nope, our next evolution is going to happen in the second. Just like those people were taken away. Those pesky Christians are gone now. The next step, obviously, if that can happen to Christians being removed so we can move on with our step of next step of evolution, we are not going to become smarter superhumans. We're all going to become gods. That's the next step in evolution. We're going to become gods. Say the aliens. They are going to make us gods. You say. Well Jack, that's nuts. Listen, there's people who believe this. There's people who, if I said this long enough, would believe it. Look, I don't know if Hollywood believes it or not, but they sure make a lot of money off of movies that believe that kind of storyline. Have your Bibles wide open. Your face in the book. Not Facebook, but face in the book. Plant your face in the Bible. Read it more and more every day. If it's a little bit or if it's a lot, it's better than what you might be doing right now, which is nothing at all. Stop being deceived. Get into God's truth. Pray over what you read. Let God lead you and guide you. Because friends, these are amazing days. I wouldn't miss what's going to happen next for anything. Wow, what a time. God bless you guys. Until next time. Get in the word of God. Amen.
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