Britney Haynes & Doug Budin: "The Traitors" & Uniforms

Summary

Jeff Lewis Has Issues: Episode Summary Episode: Britney Haynes & Doug Budin: "The Traitors" & Uniforms
Release Date: March 7, 2025

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1. Introduction of Guests and Background

In this episode of "Jeff Lewis Has Issues," host Jameson welcomes long-time listeners Brittany Haynes and Doug Buten as special guests. Both Brittany and Doug bring a wealth of experience from their time on various reality competition shows, notably Big Brother. Brittany shares her journey, stating, "2010 is when I did Big Brother 12, so my very first... that's when reality television peaked" (02:17). Doug echoes her sentiments about the enduring drama of reality TV, remarking, "When you're Jeff Lewis, the drama never stops" (01:05).

2. Charity Efforts and Book Promotion

The discussion shifts to Brittany and Doug’s recent involvement in supporting Susan Powder's book, "And Then M Died. Stop the Insanity. A Memoir." Jameson highlights the overwhelming response from their community, stating, "As of this morning at 7:15am she was number 93" in Amazon sales (06:03). Doug emphasizes the long-term benefits, "she is now able to use that as PR. She is now able to say I was number one in memoirs on Amazon" (06:20). Brittany adds, "She's so incredibly grateful... she has the money to take care of it" (07:14), underscoring the impact of their charitable efforts.

3. Family and Parenting Dynamics

Brittany delves into her family life, discussing the challenges of balancing her career with parenting. She explains how her husband plays a pivotal role, "He always totally steps in. He's got it handled" (11:14). The conversation touches on the division of household responsibilities, especially regarding their children's routines and school preparations. Brittany shares a humorous anecdote about preparing her kids' outfits to ensure they are seasonally appropriate, noting, "I laid out all of their outfits for the week for school" (12:52).

4. School Uniforms and Childcare

The guests discuss the practicality of school uniforms compared to their own experiences. Jameson highlights the simplicity of uniforms, "Monroe has uniforms. Makes it so easy. You can't fuck it up" (13:28), contrasting it with Brittany's challenges in managing her children's attire without uniform requirements. This leads to a broader conversation about childcare dynamics and the reliance on Brittany's husband and her mother for support when she's away for filming.

5. Show Dynamics and Conflict Resolution

Brittany and Doug reflect on their time interacting with other co-hosts and participants. Brittany introduces her "Protect at All Costs" list, humorously detailing the key individuals she believes should be safeguarded within their community: "This is a very exclusive list... Protect Doug at all costs. He is invaluable to this program" (20:31). The segment emphasizes the tight-knit nature of their circle and the importance of loyalty and support among "chumps."

6. The Traitors Show Discussion

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to discussing the reality show "The Traitors." Brittany offers her insights on contestant Danielle, a strategic player from Big Brother, explaining, "She has a reputation for being a really strategic, cutthroat, social, manipulative player" (35:18). She critiques Danielle's gameplay in "The Traitors," noting instances where Danielle's strategies didn't translate well, such as during missions that "just made absolutely no sense" (35:47). Doug comments on the intense conflicts within the show, observing, "The conversations, they were just screaming at each other" (37:09), highlighting the chaotic environment contestants faced.

7. Listener Interactions and Q&A

The episode features a listener call from Michael, a fan of "The Traitors," who inquires about the "Trader Experience." Brittany enthusiastically explains, "It's an experience where you get to go in downtown LA and you get to like go into this mansion and you play the game" (33:39). The interaction showcases the community engagement and the show's influence beyond its broadcast.

8. Personal Anecdotes and Humor

Throughout the episode, Brittany and Doug share lighthearted moments and personal stories, adding humor and relatability. From discussing the intricacies of spray tans to recounting awkward social interactions, their camaraderie shines. For instance, Brittany jokes about her spray tan efforts, saying, "I'd like to hit up Monica to get a spray tan" (17:39), while Doug humorously admits, "I have to have the video" regarding past incidents (15:11).

Conclusion

This episode of "Jeff Lewis Has Issues" offers a blend of insightful discussions on reality TV dynamics, heartfelt charity work, and relatable family challenges, all interwoven with humor and genuine interactions. Brittany Haynes and Doug Buten provide an engaging perspective on navigating personal and professional landscapes within the reality TV sphere, making it a compelling listen for both dedicated fans and newcomers alike.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Brittany Haynes (02:17): "2010 is when I did Big Brother 12, so my very first... that's when reality television peaked."
• Doug Buten (01:05): "When you're Jeff Lewis, the drama never stops."
• Jameson (06:03): "As of this morning at 7:15am she was number 93."
• Brittany Haynes (07:14): "She's so incredibly grateful... she has the money to take care of it."
• Brittany Haynes (11:14): "He always totally steps in. He's got it handled."
• Jameson (13:28): "Monroe has uniforms. Makes it so easy. You can't fuck it up."
• Brittany Haynes (20:31): "Protect Doug at all costs. He is invaluable to this program."
• Brittany Haynes (35:18): "She has a reputation for being a really strategic, cutthroat, social, manipulative player."
• Jameson (37:09): "The conversations, they were just screaming at each other."
• Brittany Haynes (33:39): "It's an experience where you get to go in downtown LA and you get to like go into this mansion and you play the game."
• Brittany Haynes (17:39): "I'd like to hit up Monica to get a spray tan."
• Doug Buten (15:11): "I have to have the video."

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Note: Timestamps correspond to the moments within the provided transcript and are indicative for reference purposes.

Transcript

[Brittany Haynes]

Whistle while you work.

[Jeff Lewis]

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[Brittany Haynes]

Snow White.

[Jeff Lewis]

Snow White that started it all.

[Brittany Haynes]

I believe you're looking for me.

[Jeff Lewis]

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[Doug Buten]

We haven't even been in Revolution.

[Jeff Lewis]

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[Jameson]

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[Doug Buten]

When you're Jeff Lewis, the drama never stops.

[Jameson]

I mean, I'm doing charity right now.

[Doug Buten]

I think that twice in one year you're doing charity.

[Jameson]

That's twice. What was the first one?

[Doug Buten]

You went to dinner with me.

[Brittany Haynes]

Do people wanna be in your circle? Buy your way into friendship with Jeff Lewis?

[Jameson]

I think people are trying to get out.

[Doug Buten]

When I first started coming here, I was like, jeff Lewis.

[Brittany Haynes]

Jeff Lewis has issues.

[Jameson]

Hey, welcome to Jeff. Jeff Lewis has issues. In today's episode, Brittany Haynes and Doug Buten join the show. We talk about school uniforms, hands on dads, and the traitors. It was so easy getting you on the show.

[Brittany Haynes]

So easy. I've only been asking and dying and begging and calling in favors for like seven years.

[Jameson]

Okay. I'm gonna be honest with you. I did not know who you were.

[Brittany Haynes]

Okay. That's fair.

[Jameson]

And then recently, Shane's partner, Brogan, I guess, is a huge Big Brother fan.

[Brittany Haynes]

Okay.

[Jameson]

And he said, no, no, no, you. You're gonna love her. And he used to work for Access Hollywood.

[Brittany Haynes]

Okay. Okay.

[Jameson]

He goes, I've met her. She's great. She's fun. She's a chump.

[Brittany Haynes]

Yes.

[Jameson]

So I've got to explain who you are for. I mean, I would imagine everybody knows who you are, but no one knows who I am. Big Brother season 12, Big Brother season 14, the Price is Right, Amazing Race, Big Brother, Reindeer Games, Traders. So you're like the queen of these competition reality shows.

[Brittany Haynes]

And then we were kind of thriving at the same time. 2010 is when I did Big Brother 12, so my very first. Well, that was like my first reality show ever. 2010. That's when everybody peaked. That's frankly when reality television peaked. 2010. And so then it's just been since then, appearances here and there and whatnot. But I have been a chump since, like you had 12 listeners. I'm listener.

[Jameson]

So last month. Yeah.

[Brittany Haynes]

Since Gage was a co host on this show and actually liked talking about Monroe publicly and making her a public figure.

[Jameson]

Posting photos.

[Brittany Haynes]

Yes, posting photos when she could appear on television and screens. That's when I was around and I watched, flipping out.

[Jameson]

Well, that was before she went into the witness protection program.

[Brittany Haynes]

It was? Yeah. Before she got her new alias and whatnot. Yes, before she. Yeah, before she had a confusing stepfather situation.

[Doug Buten]

Brittany was here early this morning.

[Brittany Haynes]

I mean, 20 minutes early.

[Doug Buten]

8:04, I think you arrived 8:09.

[Jameson]

What time did you get here, Doug?

[Doug Buten]

I was just about to unpack my satchel and Brittany walked in. So I got here, I think at 8:01.

[Brittany Haynes]

Cause what did I know not to be late. What did I know is prized here? Punctuality.

[Jameson]

It is.

[Brittany Haynes]

And I showed up.

[Jameson]

Thank you. But you do have a grace period, so I appreciate you being here at. Were you here at 8? 8, 4?

[Brittany Haynes]

It was like 8:04.

[Jameson]

Okay.

[Brittany Haynes]

And then I took a. Doug is always here. I took a long time on the sign in screen intentionally, you know, taking my time.

[Jameson]

I see.

[Doug Buten]

You know, I would like to point out just also, Jenny. In high school, Jenny strong lived on 15th Street. And my high school was on 16th Street. And she was always late. And she only lived one block away. I live very close to the studio. I'm so sorry to be late.

[Jameson]

Does anyone know Jenny Strong?

[Brittany Haynes]

No one knows.

[Jameson]

We're not invested in this.

[Brittany Haynes]

But I'm unfamiliar with the traffic here. And so I was worried about. Because I'm coming from downtown. And so I was like, I gotta. I gotta have like a major grace period in case.

[Jameson]

So you were with Doug alone for 20 minutes?

[Brittany Haynes]

I was. I saw so many sides of him.

[Jameson]

I'm so sorry.

[Brittany Haynes]

I saw his straight side. I saw.

[Jameson]

Well, not with those socks. He's got some bright pink socks on today.

[Brittany Haynes]

No, he did a good job. He was asking about sports.

[Doug Buten]

Yeah, I was talking to Kian like a straight guy.

[Brittany Haynes]

What's up? Like, he was like giving heterosexuality dress queen.

[Jameson]

Did he talk about his garden in Tomato Mania yet?

[Brittany Haynes]

Later, but that was on Cant led. That was on can.

[Doug Buten]

I know. I used all my energy up talking straight to you.

[Jameson]

Well, yesterday, Susan Powder was here, and I have to say I am overwhelmed by the generosity of the chumps. It's astounding. So she's a very prideful woman. She's fallen on hard times. She did not want any handouts. She did not want any gofundmes. But what she did is she said, jeff, you could promote my book. And $13 on Amazon. It is called And Then M Died. Stop the Insanity. A Memoir. And I called on all the chumps. I said, let's help her out. And what is so amazing is that just to give you an idea of the chump power, yesterday on Amazon, before she did the show, her book was ranked number 87,514 on Amazon in book sales. She was number 888 in exercise and fitness, number 2908 in memoirs. As of this morning at 7:15am she was number 93.

[Brittany Haynes]

Wow.

[Jameson]

On Amazon, from 87,514 to number 93. She's number one in exercise, number five in memoirs.

[Brittany Haynes]

Wow.

[Doug Buten]

Amazing.

[Jameson]

That's the power of the chunks.

[Doug Buten]

And this will be the first book for so many people. I love that.

[Brittany Haynes]

The first book ever.

[Doug Buten]

But you know what's actually.

[Brittany Haynes]

They're not gonna read it.

[Doug Buten]

No, but they bought it. I bought it. I think it's 183 pages.

[Brittany Haynes]

Your kind heart.

[Doug Buten]

You know what I love, though, Jeff, about this is not just the immediate, which is, you know, yes, she's gonna profit from all these book sales, but now she's able to use that as PR. She is now able to say I was number 85 or number one in memoirs on Amazon, which will help her get the next project sold.

[Jameson]

I got a very long text and I'm going to edit it from her. From her. She said she's incredibly happy and touched by the chumps that she said that she's had a very difficult last few weeks. Doing this show has given her her happiness back. She said that the money raised in the book sales will change her life and make things okay for months ahead. If she blows a tire, can't work for a day, whatever comes up, she has the money to take care of it. She's so incredibly grateful.

[Brittany Haynes]

You're saving lives. She said, this is not saving program.

[Jameson]

She said chumps have made a huge difference and impact on her life.

[Brittany Haynes]

Yeah, life saving program right here. I'm just helping people.

[Doug Buten]

And his heart grew four sizes larger that day. This is. I feel like we are living that out.

[Brittany Haynes]

Right? I am a chump. I identify fully as a chump. And likewise, I purchased truffle salt. You paid? I Paid. I have a screenshot.

[Jameson]

Any side effects?

[Brittany Haynes]

I brought the screenshot in case I need to prove it. I bought the bundle with the lemon seasoning. I have actually purchased truffle salt because as a kind heart, I support it.

[Jameson]

Don't give it to your kids.

[Brittany Haynes]

It was good.

[Doug Buten]

Thank you.

[Jameson]

You're used.

[Brittany Haynes]

You're welcome. I did use it.

[Annie]

All three flavors.

[Brittany Haynes]

It came as a two pack.

[Doug Buten]

She did. That was last year.

[Jameson]

Oh, you fell for the bundle.

[Brittany Haynes]

I fell for the bundle.

[Doug Buten]

She bought it.

[Jameson]

Sure did. Doing bundles.

[Doug Buten]

Yeah. Of course that's ever present. You can always select a bundle on saltery store. Yeah. But I'm. I thank you. I really appreciate that. We've never met before and I'm a fan. I've watched Traders. I know that you are on the precipice. We are going to find out this week if you go to be a trader or if you say goodbye.

[Jameson]

Are you here for the reunion?

[Brittany Haynes]

Yes, we film tomorrow.

[Jameson]

Oh, good luck.

[Doug Buten]

Oh, so Dolores, everybody then is on the show.

[Annie]

Dolores is here and she didn't hit us up.

[Brittany Haynes]

Well, you didn't. You just have her like a week ago.

[Annie]

Yeah, but she was on a couple times ago and she was like happy to see my LA family. She had posted that on Instagram. We gave her a shit because we're like, well, you didn't see us.

[Brittany Haynes]

Yeah, well, I told her yesterday that I was coming and she said please tell. Please give them my love or something to that effect. So there you go.

[Jameson]

Will Dorinda be there too?

[Brittany Haynes]

Yes, yes.

[Jameson]

Okay, cool.

[Brittany Haynes]

Everybody's coming.

[Jameson]

Tell her I said hi.

[Brittany Haynes]

I will.

[Jameson]

And is Andy hosting it?

[Annie]

Yeah.

[Jameson]

Okay, so he's in town too.

[Doug Buten]

Yeah. And then he's doing the Beverly Hills reunion the next day.

[Jameson]

I think he said, so how long are you in town?

[Brittany Haynes]

Till Saturday.

[Jameson]

Okay, so you've got three little girls.

[Brittany Haynes]

I do, yeah.

[Jameson]

10, 8, 6.

[Brittany Haynes]

Ish. 11, 10, 7. It's so hard to keep track of.

[Jameson]

Well, also if you google it, they're always wrong.

[Brittany Haynes]

Yeah, they're always wrong.

[Jameson]

They're always off.

[Doug Buten]

She shouldn't have to google the ages of her own children.

[Brittany Haynes]

I do, yeah.

[Jameson]

Sometimes I have forgotten her birthday a few times.

[Brittany Haynes]

Monroe and my youngest are close in age. That helped. They're very similar. And then I have two that are older.

[Jameson]

I was having trouble remembering her birthday for some reason. It was always getting saying the 20, it's the 25th. But I was saying it was the 26th of October.

[Brittany Haynes]

Yeah.

[Jameson]

But then a chump was like, well, just think of it. Christmas Christmas is 25th and since then I haven't forgotten.

[Brittany Haynes]

You haven't forgotten now?

[Jameson]

I forget the year.

[Brittany Haynes]

Yeah, the year is kind of hard. And I have three, so I mean, like, keeping those apart, I say the wrong month with day all the time because I'll like swap them.

[Jameson]

But Brittany, when you're doing all of these competition shows, you're away from those kids for a long time, aren't you?

[Brittany Haynes]

So I've only had to do that twice since I've had kids because when I did Big Brother, the first and second time, I didn't have kids yet. When I did Amazing Race, Ru was really little, she was only a year old and that was really hard.

[Jameson]

Yeah.

[Brittany Haynes]

But for traders, you know, they're at an age now where it's a little easier. They know what I'm doing, they're excited to watch the show. Like, they get into it and that makes it a little bit easier. And you were gone for weeks though.

[Jameson]

And you could only. Dolores was saying you could only use the phone. Was it once a week or did they make exceptions for you because you have kids?

[Brittany Haynes]

They would, I mean, they would pretty much make an. I mean, I'm sure MJ talked to you about this because her son was young when she did it.

[Jameson]

Yeah. But she was probably happy to be gone.

[Doug Buten]

She was gone. She said it several weeks.

[Annie]

It was hard because, like, you know, it is hard. Didn't have always the reaction she wanted.

[Brittany Haynes]

And it was like, yeah, I think when they're younger it's much more difficult. Like for me, doing Amazing Race was much more difficult than doing Traitors as far as, like being away from the family. But, you know, they know why I'm leaving. They know what it's for. So they're kind of excited about it. They like to watch the shows and get into it and do stuff.

[Jameson]

Your husband, is he a hands on dad?

[Brittany Haynes]

Very.

[Jameson]

That's good.

[Brittany Haynes]

Yes. He always totally steps in.

[Jameson]

Okay, so then you don't worry about these kids because he's got it, he's got it. And you have a nanny.

[Brittany Haynes]

He's fine. No, my mom helps out. My mom and help out.

[Jameson]

So your mom's your nanny?

[Brittany Haynes]

Well, she lives two and a half hours away, but she comes in and like helps out if I'm going to be out of town or something like that.

[Doug Buten]

For an extended.

[Jameson]

Then who's feeding and bathing and taking these kids to school?

[Brittany Haynes]

My husband.

[Jameson]

But what about when you're home?

[Brittany Haynes]

I do.

[Jameson]

And do you divide the rules or. No. You pretty much take when you're home, you're handling it.

[Brittany Haynes]

No, we divide it pretty well. I mean, he does a lot. He does a lot.

[Jameson]

That's great.

[Brittany Haynes]

He has a very sad life.

[Doug Buten]

Is he at home a lot, your husband?

[Brittany Haynes]

He was. Because since COVID he was partially working from home. He's pretty much back in the office now, so. But that's recent that they've started doing, like, the return to work from COVID So we're kind of re evaluating the roles a little bit because he has been around so much and able to help so much.

[Doug Buten]

Right. And now all of a sudden you're like.

[Brittany Haynes]

Now all of a sudden he's actually gone. Yeah. But no. So whenever I'm gone for a show, Traders, whatever. He's got it handled. He's got it down. It's fine. Now my kids won't look good. Okay. They will. They will look so bad.

[Doug Buten]

Clothing or something.

[Jameson]

Oh, with your husband?

[Brittany Haynes]

Yes, the clothing. I have to put all the outfits.

[Doug Buten]

Don't they do, like, geranimals still? Like, this goes with this and that goes with that.

[Brittany Haynes]

He doesn't know. He. He doesn't even know whose clothes belong to who. Like, he. He knows absolutely nothing about that. He can't do the hair. The hair is. I mean, it's very, very dire. Straight. But other than appearance, he does. He does fine.

[Jameson]

So you have to lay out clothes. You're not doing this for weeks, are you?

[Brittany Haynes]

No, I didn't do it for that. But, like, I'm gone right now.

[Jameson]

Yeah.

[Brittany Haynes]

I laid out all of their outfits for the week for school. Because I can't have him dressing them.

[Jameson]

For school because he won't match the shoes.

[Brittany Haynes]

Oh, my. It's not even that. It won't even be seasonally appropriate. Like, it'll be what?

[Doug Buten]

Bikinis don't work in February.

[Brittany Haynes]

It won't even be remotely appropriate. Forget matching. That's like the least of the worries. It'll be 14 sizes too small. It'll be holes in things. It's like he doesn't see. Yeah, it's like he. Visually, it just doesn't register as a problem.

[Jameson]

See, Monroe has uniforms. Makes it so easy. You can't fuck it up.

[Jeff Lewis]

Right?

[Brittany Haynes]

I know. Yeah, that's easy. No, we don't have uniforms.

[Doug Buten]

Is it a skirt or do they give girls pants?

[Jameson]

No pants.

[Doug Buten]

No pants.

[Jameson]

But we have skirts.

[Doug Buten]

We have even the boys.

[Annie]

Very progressive.

[Brittany Haynes]

It's a very progressive school.

[Jameson]

Yeah.

[Doug Buten]

Yeah. So she wears skirts.

[Jameson]

There's a dress.

[Annie]

Little jumper or the skirt.

[Jameson]

Yeah, there's a dress and a Skirt I love.

[Doug Buten]

It's like a below deck where they go change into your whites or change into your blacks, whatever. The Monroe's got her options.

[Oscar]

Wait, that girls make wear pants?

[Jameson]

No, there's. There's no pants or we didn't buy it. There's no pants.

[Oscar]

Aren't there boys in the school or is it an all girls school?

[Annie]

No, the boys wouldn't wear pants. She probably could.

[Oscar]

The boys wear pants but the girls don't.

[Jameson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Brittany Haynes]

This is normal.

[Doug Buten]

This is very like anti maid.

[Jameson]

It's traditional roles.

[Doug Buten]

Okay. Okay.

[Brittany Haynes]

That's how I know of private schools to work. I think that's how they all work.

[Jameson]

Yeah, like, I think they just, you know, it's, it's different. The school, they dress girls like girls and boys like boys.

[Doug Buten]

What else does she need from the replay?

[Oscar]

What is she going to school for?

[Brittany Haynes]

Anyway, speaking of that, I thought, okay, so whenever I started listening to the show and I was always like, oh, I want to be on Jeff Lewis so bad. And I thought there is no way that program will be on long enough for me to actually make it on the show. Like there's no way because you are like the cat with 900 lives.

[Jameson]

I know.

[Brittany Haynes]

With the cancellations you should have been canceled 899 times already.

[Jameson]

I agree.

[Brittany Haynes]

And look, we're still here.

[Jameson]

It's a miracle.

[Doug Buten]

We get DMs from.

[Brittany Haynes]

It's a miracle.

[Jameson]

5 HR infections.

[Brittany Haynes]

Oh, five.

[Doug Buten]

I have to have fallen.

[Brittany Haynes]

I'm surprised that it's only five. I'm shocked that it's only five.

[Jameson]

A lot of times they can't prove it was me.

[Brittany Haynes]

Right. And you get away. You get a lot of passes.

[Doug Buten]

I've got the video.

[Brittany Haynes]

People know it about you. So they like most of the time we'll probably just gloss over it. But I thought there is no way that program is still going to be around. And if I would have waited till after Chump Con, I would have probably never made it.

[Doug Buten]

Oh.

[Brittany Haynes]

Because that's going to be the final nail in the coffin. I think.

[Jameson]

I think they know they can't do anything. Well, they're scared because chumps will literally burn the buildings down.

[Brittany Haynes]

Yeah. I can't believe you got insured.

[Jameson]

I know, I know.

[Brittany Haynes]

And by the way, did you read the fine print?

[Jameson]

No Prostitution.

[Doug Buten]

By the way, Doug, Jeff for some reason is talking to me.

[Jameson]

Seriously?

[Brittany Haynes]

I remember the first.

[Jameson]

Oh my God.

[Brittany Haynes]

Not the lube to the room. What hotel was it? Which hotel was it?

[Jameson]

Venetian.

[Brittany Haynes]

The Venetian.

[Jameson]

You can't go back.

[Brittany Haynes]

You can't go. Did you try to book them?

[Jameson]

Well, resort world is being very generous with us.

[Brittany Haynes]

They didn't talk to the Venetian.

[Jameson]

But you cannot know.

[Brittany Haynes]

They don't know.

[Jameson]

Seriously, I cannot lose my insurance. You cannot not entertain Jeff.

[Brittany Haynes]

It was just a massage. It was just a one off massage.

[Jameson]

Very expensive massage.

[Doug Buten]

And I'm not the one who ordered a gallon of lube to the room. That was you.

[Brittany Haynes]

There's nothing odd about being in a hotel room and having a masseur come to your room where there is not a massage table.

[Doug Buten]

Thank you. Brittany.

[Brittany Haynes]

Present.

[Doug Buten]

Thank you.

[Brittany Haynes]

And just massaging you on the bed.

[Doug Buten]

And that's completely all that travel hurts your back.

[Brittany Haynes]

So, you know. And walking. Yeah, that long 45 minute flight just really took it right out of your back.

[Jameson]

It was in a very expensive massage. 500 is a little steep for a massage.

[Brittany Haynes]

Very cheap.

[Doug Buten]

You paid $500? Because I didn't.

[Brittany Haynes]

Do you tip on top or just the tip? Just. Okay, just the tip. 500 is just the tip.

[Jameson]

And they have. You have to give them the money up front. Yeah, well, I mean, do you have to give it to them or just show it to them?

[Doug Buten]

I think what they would say, at least in the movies is, let me see the money.

[Jameson]

Like, oh, in the movies.

[Brittany Haynes]

Oh, my God.

[Jameson]

Doug just turned bright red.

[Brittany Haynes]

So I actually brought a list of topics, if that's okay.

[Doug Buten]

Oh, my God. Wait. Britney.

[Jameson]

Holy shit.

[Doug Buten]

She really did. Brittany was like, how come I didn't stay at the B and B? That was her first question.

[Jameson]

Can I ask you about your spray tan?

[Brittany Haynes]

Ask me. Go ahead.

[Jameson]

Where did you get it done?

[Brittany Haynes]

I got it done two days ago at my spray tan place in Oklahoma.

[Jameson]

Yeah, you can go darker.

[Brittany Haynes]

I don't want to go darker because then I look spray tanned. I'm trying to look if she went darker, naturally glowing.

[Jameson]

Annie, what do you think with the spray tan?

[Brittany Haynes]

It's very pale. You think? But it looks good on you because you're blonde and you don't have like the dark contrast. You would look like. I am 14 shades more pale than this. She's all like, this is very tan to me.

[Doug Buten]

Yeah, well.

[Jameson]

Cause she said she had a spray tan and I just was like, oh, where'd it go? Yeah, maybe you did it too soon and it washed off or something.

[Brittany Haynes]

Maybe I can reapply because I did bring some touch. However, this is the look I'm going for, believe it or not.

[Doug Buten]

What color are you?

[Brittany Haynes]

Okay. I'm like, Jameson's color.

[Jameson]

No, no one is.

[Brittany Haynes]

Yes, I am. He's See through borderline translucent. That's us. No, we're together in that.

[Jameson]

Have you ever done a spray tan?

[Brittany Haynes]

This is very tan.

[Oscar]

I haven't. And I. I was actually just saying, I'm like. I should hit up Monica to get a spray tan.

[Annie]

She's at the house right now if you want to come over and get a spray tan.

[Oscar]

Not today.

[Jameson]

She sprayed Annie yesterday.

[Oscar]

I'm gonna consider it. I'm curious to see what it looks like.

[Brittany Haynes]

It's such a boost for the self esteem. Steam. I mean, the low point is getting naked for the spray tan.

[Jameson]

I know.

[Brittany Haynes]

Low of your life.

[Jameson]

I know, I know.

[Brittany Haynes]

Oh my God, your pace.

[Jameson]

And I was just sucking it in.

[Brittany Haynes]

The whole time you're trying to suck in. But it's. Things are not looking good and then not a chance. And then they. No, you have to.

[Doug Buten]

I'm doing the Chaz Dean.

[Annie]

But then if you're shirtless, if you're.

[Brittany Haynes]

Going to be in your Tommy.

[Doug Buten]

That's where I am going to be.

[Brittany Haynes]

If you're going to be in trunks, you are going to have to.

[Jameson]

He's not going to be in truck. We don't know.

[Doug Buten]

No, no, no.

[Jameson]

You heard what Patrick is wearing, right?

[Brittany Haynes]

No. What?

[Jameson]

The Speedo python. It's custom made. Pole's making it for him.

[Brittany Haynes]

Speaking of Speedo, have you seen any Instagram posts lately?

[Doug Buten]

Of whom?

[Jameson]

Frank.

[Brittany Haynes]

Brittany.

[Oscar]

I thought we were one and one on our skin tone. I thought we were cool, girl.

[Brittany Haynes]

No, I was actually referring to Stu's.

[Jameson]

Oh, no, I don't. I think I blocked him.

[Brittany Haynes]

It kind of looked good.

[Jameson]

I know that he was posting self. I heard he was posting selfies during the fires.

[Brittany Haynes]

Oh, cute.

[Jameson]

Yeah, at the gym.

[Brittany Haynes]

Well, remember when Doug tried. Toned deaf, that one. Remember when Doug tried to warn everyone that the fires and the winds were coming? And we openly mocked the winds on this program. And then in fact the fires and the winds did come. It was akin to when you made fun of COVID and then.

[Doug Buten]

Well, no, Jeff didn't make fun of COVID though.

[Jameson]

I warned everyone about COVID That's true.

[Doug Buten]

The way I was in the country.

[Jameson]

Because of me, chumps bought all the.

[Brittany Haynes]

Toilet paper because you didn't want those Girl scout cookies coming to your house.

[Jameson]

I didn't want what?

[Brittany Haynes]

Those girl Scout cookies coming to your house?

[Jameson]

No.

[Brittany Haynes]

So you were warning against the dangers of the door to door.

[Jameson]

That was selling. Okay, but I can't bring that up, Brittany, because that was another potential HR situation.

[Brittany Haynes]

It wasn't potential. That was a violation.

[Jameson]

Yeah, so let's. Oh, look at you with your love.

[Brittany Haynes]

I have.

[Oscar]

My Brittany legitimately has a list. She's holding a list in front of us right now.

[Doug Buten]

You'll see this list if you watch the video I would like for you.

[Brittany Haynes]

This is my protected all costs here at the bottom. And you're number one, Doug.

[Doug Buten]

Well, by the way, that's alphabetical, isn't it? Oh, no, it's not. Fortune would be second.

[Jameson]

Protect Doug at all costs.

[Brittany Haynes]

At all costs. He is invaluable to this program. You don't understand how much we love him in chump world. This is a show today. I am here as your chump representative.

[Jameson]

Okay, okay.

[Brittany Haynes]

And I am a chump, and I'm speaking on behalf of the chumps and for the chumps. I'm asserting myself in this role.

[Jameson]

Okay?

[Brittany Haynes]

I did not take a vote. This is not a democracy. And protect at all costs. Here we have Doug Buten.

[Doug Buten]

Name everybody else.

[Brittany Haynes]

Jameson. Jameson, you're on the list.

[Oscar]

Thank you so much.

[Brittany Haynes]

We absolutely love and adore you.

[Doug Buten]

Thank you.

[Brittany Haynes]

Jeff doesn't appreciate you enough. Stop being mean to Jameson.

[Oscar]

Keep going. Brittany.

[Doug Buten]

Yeah. Welcome.

[Jameson]

Please don't tell me Oscar's on that list.

[Brittany Haynes]

Oscar didn't.

[Doug Buten]

Oh, no, he's not on that list. He's not. Sorry, Oscar.

[Franklin]

Jameson. I'd like to put in my two weeks.

[Brittany Haynes]

To be fair, it was a very exclusive list. A list of only four.

[Doug Buten]

Yeah. If I.

[Brittany Haynes]

If I had a broader list, like, maybe.

[Franklin]

Oh, it's exclusive. I have to make the list.

[Jameson]

You actually look tan.

[Franklin]

Oh, I've been out in the sun lately.

[Jameson]

Okay.

[Annie]

Oh, I forgot you get tan in the sun.

[Franklin]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jameson]

Does anyone want to ask that why he's been outside. Does anyone want to ask? Does anyone care?

[Brittany Haynes]

Can we move back onto my list?

[Doug Buten]

Thanks, Oscar.

[Brittany Haynes]

Thanks for that, though. Jackie Schimmel.

[Jameson]

Yes.

[Brittany Haynes]

Jackie is like my fave. I'm like Jackie, but poor.

[Doug Buten]

Have you met Jackie?

[Brittany Haynes]

I'm like real Oklahoma Jackie.

[Doug Buten]

Yes.

[Brittany Haynes]

If Jackie was doing the Simple Life, that's.

[Doug Buten]

Have you met Jackie?

[Brittany Haynes]

Never. But I'm obsessed with her.

[Doug Buten]

We'll make that happen.

[Brittany Haynes]

I'm obsessed with Jackie Schimmel. So she's on my list. And then Fortune Feemster. These are the protect at all cost list. This is the. We're gonna be nice. You know how we tend to, like, get into conflicts, Jeff.

[Jameson]

I don't know what you're talking about.

[Brittany Haynes]

With our co hosts. And then they disappear forever. You know how that tends to happen.

[Jameson]

It's Jeff Lewis, Live Survivor.

[Brittany Haynes]

This is the four that. That we can't.

[Jameson]

Okay.

[Brittany Haynes]

They need immunity.

[Jameson]

Okay.

[Brittany Haynes]

Immunity. Oh, the immunity. Immunity. Yeah. They need a shield because we can't lose these.

[Jameson]

So that's Jackie, Doug and Jameson. That's easy. That's easy.

[Brittany Haynes]

You can lose everybody.

[Annie]

Wow.

[Brittany Haynes]

Jesus, Franklin. You are. You are like. Your son didn't make the list. No, you're beyond the list. You're actually related.

[Jameson]

Yeah. You're family. These are all my keying.

[Brittany Haynes]

And Annie, I listened to that one episode where Jeff, like, Semi 10 broke up with you. It was so uncomfortable. That can never happen again. Do you remember that sad episode?

[Annie]

How about that?

[Jameson]

I don't even know what you're talking about.

[Doug Buten]

That's part of the problem.

[Annie]

It was worse on air than it actually was.

[Brittany Haynes]

It was. It was like a weenie. You asked for, like space, basically, like, we need to step back a little bit. And you were like semi breaking up with Shane. It was so sad.

[Doug Buten]

You don't remember that?

[Jameson]

I don't even remember.

[Doug Buten]

It was a day of like, growth from Jeff. It was just like. It was a little bit of a boundary. It was a lowercase B boundary day. It was.

[Jameson]

Oh, I've been setting a lot of boundaries, Brittany.

[Brittany Haynes]

This was years ago.

[Jameson]

Oh, I wasn't setting boundaries then. No, I was crossing.

[Brittany Haynes]

I think you were actually. I think what it was was you were new relationship and you were like, trying to like, create some space so that you had more alone time with the new relationship.

[Jameson]

Didn't work.

[Brittany Haynes]

Didn't work at all. How'd that go? Are you reading?

[Jameson]

No amount of time could have fixed that.

[Brittany Haynes]

I only have one. Really? This is so important question.

[Doug Buten]

She has a list of like 10 questions.

[Jameson]

Wow. Yeah.

[Brittany Haynes]

When Scott left.

[Jameson]

Oh, my God.

[Doug Buten]

I'm interested.

[Brittany Haynes]

Did he take the fish? Oh, was there a fish sloshing situation? Did he pick the aquarium up and put it in his trunk and there's maybe fish on the pool. He left.

[Jameson]

Well, first of all, I broke up with him.

[Brittany Haynes]

Okay. And did he leave in a huffy?

[Jameson]

He left. Yes. And. But he left everything now. He left everything. Any gifts? He left. You know, that was for Monroe.

[Brittany Haynes]

So what happened to the fish?

[Jameson]

They died.

[Brittany Haynes]

They're all dead?

[Jameson]

Well, apparently you have to feed them.

[Brittany Haynes]

So they're gone, those fish, for a long time.

[Annie]

No, we passed away from house to house. They were in your car.

[Brittany Haynes]

You did slosh them from one place.

[Annie]

To the next in I think Monica's car.

[Jameson]

Do we have phones today? Have you noticed that the phones break down a lot?

[Brittany Haynes]

All the time. I actually called before when Frankie Grande was on. Do you remember that?

[Annie]

Yeah.

[Brittany Haynes]

Yeah, Frankie came. What were we saying about your short term versus long term memory?

[Jameson]

I have no long term memory whatsoever.

[Brittany Haynes]

But I don't expect you to remember every call.

[Annie]

What are your other questions?

[Oscar]

To answer the question you had that you just forgot. Yes, we do have.

[Jameson]

Oh, good. Yeah, sometimes I do that a lot. I'll ask the question, not listen to the answer, and then I'll ask the same question by the time in the.

[Oscar]

Event you wanted the answer. Yes, we do have phones.

[Jameson]

Thank you for doing it.

[Brittany Haynes]

If any of these are a favorite of yours, you can let me know.

[Jameson]

Okay. I'm sorry. I do have to ask.

[Brittany Haynes]

Okay, tell me what.

[Jameson]

What have you been doing in the sun? I'm sorry, I can't. I just can't. I have to.

[Franklin]

I've just been walking and then trying to figure out some new hobbies. I'm thinking about taking up boxing, and that's something I could do outside.

[Brittany Haynes]

That's not outside. Boxing is not outside.

[Franklin]

The classes that I'm looking into are outside. They're a huge group of people.

[Brittany Haynes]

They just. What, box in the park?

[Franklin]

Yeah.

[Jameson]

And then while we're speaking, sure. You had told me that you were gonna lay off Disneyland for a while and that you were into Universal, but then I saw a post with you and Andy at Disneyland, and me and.

[Franklin]

Andy are going to Universal today.

[Annie]

Oh, he's bi.

[Jameson]

So that I just. Cause you had put Disneyland on pause, but you Obviously Disneyland came off pause pretty quickly.

[Franklin]

Well, the reason I went to Disneyland with Andy was there was a new sipper that they were releasing, and I wanted it, so.

[Annie]

A new what?

[Brittany Haynes]

A new. Oh, a sipper.

[Franklin]

A sipper.

[Doug Buten]

This is a cup.

[Brittany Haynes]

Explain.

[Franklin]

It's a cup.

[Jameson]

Explain.

[Franklin]

That usually comes in a nice. Design the sipper that they had.

[Brittany Haynes]

Or he'll show you right now a collector item.

[Franklin]

It's a Captain America shield, and on the inside, you can fill it with water and there's a lid.

[Doug Buten]

Canteen.

[Franklin]

Yeah, like a canteen.

[Oscar]

It's a big thing for the Disney community. They design all these unique sippers. So it's a big part of.

[Jameson]

So you went back for a sipper?

[Franklin]

I did.

[Jameson]

For $9. Can't you just buy it online?

[Franklin]

No, that one you have to buy in the park. Those are exclusive parts.

[Brittany Haynes]

He probably wants the memory of purchasing the sipper. You know, like he wants to Marvel fan to walk in and see the sipper and hold the sipper and take it to the register. Like it's probably a process. Yeah, yeah.

[Jameson]

I did a play date with this other mom in school.

[Brittany Haynes]

Well, Jeff led us there. Let's not.

[Jameson]

It's about Disneyland.

[Doug Buten]

Jeff has moved on.

[Jameson]

It's about Disneyland. She was very nice. Very, very generous. Like, hey, we're gonna be taking, you know, so and so to Disneyland. Love you and Monroe to come. Here are the dates. And it was four dates. So you can't be like, I'm busy, I'm busy, I'm busy, I'm busy.

[Brittany Haynes]

You can't be busy every day.

[Jameson]

Right. So I had to be truly honest with her. And so I wrote hi. And I really do believe this. How many times have we been to Disneyland?

[Annie]

Probably 12.

[Jameson]

In the last. How many years?

[Annie]

Four years.

[Jameson]

I said hi. I took Monroe for her birthday last October. And I swore to myself it was the last time I will ever go to Disneyland. However, I appreciate the invite. I'd love to do another play date soon.

[Brittany Haynes]

I feel like that's acceptable.

[Jameson]

I know it's. Does it feel a little harsh? But I want to be truthful. I don't ever want to go to Disneyland again.

[Brittany Haynes]

I don't think that it's. I don't think that it's too harsh. I wholeheartedly disagree with the sentiment because I do like Disney.

[Doug Buten]

Yeah. I was gonna ask, have you. When you live in Oklahoma, do you come to Disneyland or do you go.

[Brittany Haynes]

To Disney World and have you taken the trail? And I highly suggest you never do that.

[Doug Buten]

What?

[Brittany Haynes]

Because he won't. He'll hate it.

[Doug Buten]

Disney World is so much bigger.

[Brittany Haynes]

It is so much bigger and so much better. But he doesn't like Disneyland, thus he will even more so.

[Doug Buten]

I think he'll love the world.

[Brittany Haynes]

I don't think so. Because it's a multi day experience.

[Jameson]

I don't want to go.

[Brittany Haynes]

It's taking a Disneyland day, but. Except for you never leave. I just. I love Disney World. Don't get me wrong. I love it. I don't think you will love it.

[Franklin]

I think Jeff would love Epcot though, because there's a lot of alcohol drinking around the world.

[Jameson]

Jeff doesn't want to go to another amusement park. I went to 12. I went Disneyland 12 times in four years. I'm fucking done.

[Brittany Haynes]

Somebody else will take her. It's just not for you.

[Jameson]

And I'm also.

[Brittany Haynes]

It is for me, but it's not for you.

[Jameson]

I'm getting vertigo now. That's a lot of walking.

[Doug Buten]

The rides hurt. I heard you talking about that.

[Jameson]

My back hurts.

[Brittany Haynes]

Oh, God. You cannot get up.

[Jameson]

I feel nauseous. I dizzy.

[Brittany Haynes]

You'll get snapped right now. Headaches, those dusty bones. You'll just crack, right?

[Doug Buten]

Brittany, come back.

[Brittany Haynes]

You will just snap right in half.

[Jameson]

Well, it was nice meeting you, Brittany.

[Brittany Haynes]

The pay. The payout might be good though.

[Jameson]

Oh, I'll talk to Patrick and Paul. I'll get the whistle while you work.

[Jeff Lewis]

From Disney on March 21, the magical tale Snow White. Snow White, Snow White. That snow started it all.

[Brittany Haynes]

I believe you're looking for me.

[Jeff Lewis]

Arrives in theaters. Magic Mirror on the Wall Experience the Disney classic who's the Fairest One of All? Like never before.

[Doug Buten]

We haven't even been in Ragosh yet.

[Jeff Lewis]

Disney Snow White only in theaters March 21. Rated PG. Parental guidance suggested.

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[Brittany Haynes]

Oh yeah.

[Jameson]

And I think he wants to ask a question. Hey, Michael.

[Brittany Haynes]

Great.

[Michael]

Hi, Brittany.

[Brittany Haynes]

Hi. How are you?

[Michael]

I'm good, thank you. I'm a huge traders fan. I just did the traders experience. I channeled your energy.

[Brittany Haynes]

I get to do that tomorrow, actually.

[Michael]

It's so fun. But I had a question for you. I wanted to know, what's the trader experience?

[Jameson]

Michael, I'm sorry.

[Annie]

Why didn't you bring me? There was all these gays going, all of Michael's friends. No one invited me.

[Jameson]

What is this?

[Michael]

It was so fun. It's an experience where you get to go in downtown LA and you get to like go into this mansion and you play the game and so you go with like 12 people and you actually somebody's a trader or a couple are traders.

[Brittany Haynes]

We're doing.

[Michael]

And you play the.

[Doug Buten]

It's so fun just for like the day.

[Michael]

Yeah, it's like an hour and a half.

[Brittany Haynes]

Yeah.

[Doug Buten]

Do they dump bugs on you and stuff? That's okay. We'll talk about that.

[Jameson]

All right, what's your question?

[Michael]

Okay, so I want to know two questions. One is, were you sad to see during the lease so early? And then two, I'm sure you can't Say too much. But what are your thoughts watching it back about Danielle as a trader?

[Brittany Haynes]

So I am a massive Housewives fan, Bravo fan in general. I've been watching Bravo since it was age inappropriate for me. Like original OG Day 1 Housewives of Orange county fan. Watched all the franchises. So of course I was a huge Dorinda fan. Fan of all the housewives that were there in general. But. But Dorinda primarily is such like a mega star housewife. So I was so, so excited to meet her. I was fortunate to be in the car with her day one, so that bought me some time with her. I really. So at the end of the day, I really wanted to invite to Bluestone Manor to come out of that season of the Traitors. And you know, she got killed so early, so I was lucky to have had her in the car day one. So at least she like even knows my name is great. But I would have never murdered her if I was a traitor. I was so sad that she got murdered because I really was so pumped about meeting her.

[Jameson]

Now, the Danielle comments. What about the Danielle, didn't you say. What was your second question?

[Brittany Haynes]

Oh, how do I feel about her.

[Annie]

As a traitor now that you're watching it?

[Brittany Haynes]

Watching it back has been really interesting. And I mean, I don't. So she comes from Big Brother. It's just a different world when you come from these like past competition reality shows. It's a different mentality and it's a different level at which you take the game. And so Danielle in particular has a reputation for Big Brother of being like a really strategic, cutthroat, social, manipulative player. Like, that was her thing. That is what she was known for. On season three, she was invited back to season seven All Stars stars for that reason because she was a really good player, but like a strategic player. And so I just think that with her background, it's not apples to apples when you put her in the turret with someone who doesn't have that background or someone who is not even necessarily like from. Doesn't have a strategic mindset. It's just they're going to approach things very differently now. She did take it way over the top and like with the seizure that she had last week, for example, or, you know, and in some of the missions and things like the one where you had to take a face down and put a face up, she was doing stuff that just made absolutely no sense. And I mean, I knew that sitting there, I'm like, what is she actually doing? It's not advantageous for you to get up to have to undo your own work. Like, this doesn't even make sense. So she took it to, like, the next level. But my defense would be she has a background in, like, reality competition, strategy, game. And so that's just what she was trying to bring, if that makes sense.

[Doug Buten]

Were you surprised at what a. Now that you've been watching it back, What a mess they were in the turret.

[Brittany Haynes]

Yeah.

[Doug Buten]

And for people who don't follow traitors, you know, there's two people that we're talking about who were. Or three actually, who were the murderers. And they could not agree on anything.

[Brittany Haynes]

On anything.

[Doug Buten]

The conversations, they were just screaming at each other. They were going after each other. And so.

[Brittany Haynes]

Yeah, and that had been told to me, like, after the fact, like, oh, my gosh, we didn't get along in the turd. It was a nightmare. It was horrible. But I thought surely it wasn't going to be as bad as what I was being told. And so then watching it, I was like, oh, my God, it is that it was irreconcilable. Like, there is just absolutely. There was no way to repair it after, like, Jeff's just staring at me because he doesn't watch this show. He has no way to watch episode one. Did you watch it when MJ was on?

[Jameson]

No, not at all. I watched a couple episodes.

[Brittany Haynes]

Okay.

[Jameson]

It's never grabbed me. I try, but it's. I know.

[Brittany Haynes]

I could tell that she had, like, a bad fate on the show because she was never talking about it on this show. And everyone who comes on this show talks about whatever they're doing. You know, it's like, oh, watch me on this. Or, you know, watch cooking kibbits, whatever.

[Jameson]

No one says that she was.

[Brittany Haynes]

She was never mentioning Traders and it was airing. And so I'm like, this is so bizarre that she's not talking about Traders or why is she not saying, like, watch me on Traders? So I knew she must have a bad experience. So I actually text Dan, who was on her season, not that you would know that, and was like, what happened to mj? And he was like, just watch. Just watch. And so I knew that it was gonna be bad because of the way she was never talking about it. And then she, like, had that viral moment where she's walking backwards, walking backwards. And you guys never brought that up. I'm like, how are we not talking about the fact that this we did with each other? But was she mad about it or something? Because it literally would never get brought up. And it was hilar.

[Michael]

I mean, I think she was legitimately upset by it. She, like, she had like pretty strong feelings about it and she was creeper.

[Doug Buten]

Not the me it was.

[Michael]

No, not the creeper. But like the show and how it turned out.

[Brittany Haynes]

No, she. She did establish a legacy, though. We call that now getting MJ'd. I mean, like, it's a thing. Like we would, we would use that term. Like, oh, don't you think you'll get MJ'd if you go with XYZ? Like that's like a real thing.

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