
Caroline Stanbury, Crystal Minkoff, & Shane Douglas join Jeff Lewis in Los Angeles.
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Jeff Lewis
Jeff Lewis, the drama never stops.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Stop fucking apologizing. You're not making it any better. You're just reminding me how late we are. I know I'm specific. I know I'm a little high maintenance, which is why I tip really fucking well. I don't want to start shit, but don't you. Okay. Really?
Caroline Stanbury
Jeff Lewis has issues.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Hey, it's Jeff Lewis and I have issues. In today's episode, Caroline Stanberry and Crystal Minkoff join the show. We talk about Caroline's lesbian retreat and Himalayan bath houses. Plus, Crystal relates to my thermostat frustrations. Good morning.
Caroline Stanbury
Morning.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
So I just asked Caroline. I was curious because, you know, obviously Traders is one of the biggest shows out there right now, streaming on peac. And the season finale is this week, followed by the reunion. And it is shocking that, you know, Caroline is here doing press without any sort of handler, because usually there's Bravo handlers, there's NBC handlers, and then. What did you say?
Caroline Stanbury
I didn't tell them I was coming. And why do I feel like you're gonna spend this entire hour trying to trip me up?
Jeff Lewis (Host)
I am not. I don't wanna get you in trouble. I really don't trust yourself. However, I'm a big Traders fan. How was the reunion?
Caroline Stanbury
Fabulous.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Were there confrontations?
Caroline Stanbury
Yes. And you all know that because it's out there.
Crystal Minkoff
Who else was roofied?
Caroline Stanbury
Yeah, well, I wasn't there, but, yeah, only one.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Oh, you didn't make it to the premiere party?
Caroline Stanbury
No, because it was a couple of weeks before I was due to come and just couldn't. I've already been here a month. I have to move to LA at this point.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
So. Allegedly Lisa Rinna is claiming that she was drugged at this party. And I honestly thought she did actually
Caroline Stanbury
text me the next day and tell me that.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Really?
Caroline Stanbury
Yeah.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
I thought. I immediately thought you because you really. You have motive.
Caroline Stanbury
No, I mean, if I turned in there, I would have done it.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Yes.
Caroline Stanbury
You know, and I.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
If someone else beat you to it.
Caroline Stanbury
Saloo. To whoever did it to her.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Ronnie and. Is that Ronnie And Benny and Ben. What show are they on today?
Co-host or Guest
Maybe Smith's sister or something.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Okay.
Crystal Minkoff
I'm guessing. I don't know, because I saw them walking in.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Nice.
Co-host or Guest
Yeah. So she's now saying that she went to the party and that, and then Colton backed her up and said she was acting all out of sorts, and she didn't really seem to have drank much of anything. Why? What?
Crystal Minkoff
Well, doesn't Rena and Colton have beef?
Jeff Lewis (Host)
I don't think so. I think they. I think. Well, I resolved it.
Co-host or Guest
That. It came back about the reunion, and it came up really hard.
Caroline Stanbury
Oh, stop looking over here, honey.
Crystal Minkoff
They resolved it because they had a handler there to resolve it publicly. That's what I think. That's what I think.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Can I ask, at the reunion, how long did it take to film the whole reunion? Tape it.
Caroline Stanbury
Oh, we were there early. We had to be camera ready by
Jeff Lewis (Host)
about 8am and what time did you finish?
Caroline Stanbury
About 2, I think it was.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Long day.
Caroline Stanbury
Yeah, it's a long day.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
How many were there? Like, say, three beefs? Were there five? When you say confrontations, can you give me an idea?
Caroline Stanbury
No, I mean, you know, just the ones that are out there.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Was it mostly between. Because I. I don't know what's out there. Are there most? Are there mostly between housewives or. Cause Shane has a very interesting theory about the Traders reunions. You've been a fan since the beginning.
Co-host or Guest
Oh, I've been watching Traders forever. But my issue with the reunion is that there are no stakes because you guys don't know each other and you'll never see each other again. So a lot of time, the reunion, it's this big buildup, and then. And then everyone's kind of like, all right, have a good half a good life.
Caroline Stanbury
I get that. And I think, you know, that's still true. Yeah, the housewives are the ones that definitely started the beefs and, you know, kept it going.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Well, you're kind of in the same world. Like, you know, let's be honest, you live a very different life than. Than a lot of the Traders. You know what I mean? Than the castmates, the gamers. Yes.
Caroline Stanbury
They didn't come at me for that.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Right, but you more than likely are not gonna see most of these people ever again.
Caroline Stanbury
Yeah, but I actually. I mean, I didn't Last long enough to have beef with any of them. And I actually really got on with everyone, which is probably why I went so fast. I don't know.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
I don't really. I mean, I didn't find you threatening, but maybe. I mean, you are bright. Maybe they were concerned that you would figure things out quickly and they left the dumb ones.
Caroline Stanbury
No, I mean, I also think I was a really good distraction for the housewives. If I'm gone and then there's another housew. How many housewives could go so fast? You know, I mean, it was the housewives that probably took us out. I don't think Rob would have picked me particularly.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
But again, you know, the housewives tend to defend each other and protect each other. So it was kind of a smart move getting rid of. Starting to pluck off the housewives.
Caroline Stanbury
It was a genius move. It was, yeah, absolutely.
Crystal Minkoff
It seemed genuinely upset.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
It took the heat off all the other housewives.
Caroline Stanbury
I mean, I was sad to go. I wasn't surprised Rinna went for me. I mean, I've said that from the day I was on the sofa. She would run over her own family to do what she needs to do. And you know, it was a genius move on her point. I think had it not been her in that turret, I'd have lasted a lot longer.
Co-host or Guest
Oh, for sure.
Caroline Stanbury
Yeah.
Co-host or Guest
I mean, it was. No one would suspect that there's two housewife triggers if all the housewives are being killed.
Caroline Stanbury
Exactly. So she was, you know, she's very smart. Smart. And she's always, always said it was gameplay. I mean, she was. She did it. She did it. Well, I mean, you know, at my expense. 100. But, you know, would I have done it to her? Absolutely.
Crystal Minkoff
Does the audience. Are we watching the like, similar how it's experience in the house sort of the tone, Are we watching it correctly?
Caroline Stanbury
You're watching it completely correctly. Let me tell you. Because once you're in that game and you know, I couldn't understand why your phone's taken. You have no outside world communication. You're in that game like you're second guessing everyone, everything. Because, you know, obviously, as I explained to you before, I've. I mean, I've met you twice. I don't know if you're having a bad day or if your whole tone has changed or if you're just a bitch.
Crystal Minkoff
Yeah, right.
Caroline Stanbury
No idea.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
You know, do you. I mean, I don't know. I mean, the lack of integrity it takes to lie to all those people's faces when they're asking you flat out. Are you a traitor? I would have a real hard time with that.
Caroline Stanbury
No, you wouldn't. I would through on that.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
I would have a real. I mean, I would be. It would be easier for me to be a faithful. Because then I could answer that truthfully. But I think I would have a real hard time lying if I was a traitor.
Crystal Minkoff
You would. Until you really convince yourself. Like the last this past week, it's like Rob's like, I have to keep reminding myself this is a game.
Co-host or Guest
Right.
Crystal Minkoff
So you have to like, it's like acting like you have to put yourself in that position. Like I'm acting as a traitor. I'm in a video game right now, and this is what it is. I would imagine that's how you have to keep it up.
Caroline Stanbury
I think as time goes on, it gets harder because you can't remember your own lies, I presume, but. And who you've told Oscars.
Co-host or Guest
Oscar should be on Traders.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Yeah, yeah. What do you relate to that is question.
Caroline Stanbury
Because he's not listening. Yeah.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Oh, okay.
Co-host or Guest
Why would I relate to it? That's been the theme at the reunions a lot, which you'll see on MJ season especially. She was very hurt because all the Bravo people are like, you know, we're authentically ourselves. We tell the truth. But the gamers are like, you were playing a game. You lie. You like, that's the point of this. And so the Bravo girls get so hurt and personally feel upset, and they're like, we're just playing the game.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Well, look, you know what would really upset me because I kind of love the Johnny Tara alliance.
Caroline Stanbury
I just spoke to her.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
I think they're so adorable, those two. And I love their relationship and their friendship. And I guess if one of them was a traitor and lying to the other, they're best friends.
Co-host or Guest
That would break them.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Yeah, that would break them.
Co-host or Guest
If I were Rob, I would have chosen Tara to be. To recruit, because then that would be like the ultimate chaos.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Totally.
Co-host or Guest
They would break down.
Caroline Stanbury
Yeah, but remember, he's not aware that they're best friends.
Co-host or Guest
True.
Caroline Stanbury
And so you never felt that way in the house. No. Really pretended like they really were brilliant. I had no clue that they knew each other. I actually asked them because they were so separate. I'm like, you've never met on the circuit. I mean, what an idiot I am. I'm like. But I. You know, also, I hadn't seen it, you know.
Crystal Minkoff
Right. And you can't Google it at that point.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
But they.
Crystal Minkoff
Wow.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Olympics together.
Co-host or Guest
I didn't know that.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Oh, I knew that.
Crystal Minkoff
I didn't know that, too.
Caroline Stanbury
And. And I think they're shocked how many people didn't know that.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Yes.
Caroline Stanbury
And now, I mean, Rob's not watching the Olympics. I'm having dinner with her tonight.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Are you?
Caroline Stanbury
Yes. And what a cute little duo they are.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Please tell her I. She's one of my favorites. I think she's so adorable.
Co-host or Guest
Tell. Tell her on the show.
Caroline Stanbury
She's struggling. She texted me this morning going, you know, are they really angry with me? Because, you know, she was crying a lot on the show and she was.
Co-host or Guest
She.
Caroline Stanbury
She was the one that really struggled. She come in, she goes, who mention. Who mentioned my name? And I'm like, tara, everyone's mentioned your name. That's the aim of the game. But I think because we are so used to being housewives where people talk about us constantly, she's never had to deal with this. It was so difficult for her.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
She would have been a terrible traitor.
Caroline Stanbury
Oh, she'd have been out within a second.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
She's terrible.
Co-host or Guest
She should have had a breakdown.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
But she had me at that roundtable when she was, like, professing her, you know, I'm a faithful and this is why. And I'm like, oh.
Jeff Lewis
But then she screwed herself over with
Co-host or Guest
the whole we're gonna go for Natalie. And then, like, I didn't say that. I wouldn't say that. I was like, girl, now you just put a.
Crystal Minkoff
Now she looks like a real traitor. But she's fun to watch. She's very earnest.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
So traitor. Season 4 is streaming now on peacock. The season finale as well as the reunion is this week, and it was the first time that I've ever watched it, and I'm hooked. Now, I do have a question for you. Was there. I know you weren't there long, but did you feel like an allegiance or an alliance or a connection with a particular contestant? Yeah.
Caroline Stanbury
Yes, I did. Really? I mean, that wasn't shown because there's only 22 people to get through. And I realize now that the traitors of the story they're really trying to get across. But I had an amazing relationship with Johnny and Colton in there, so, yes, I did.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Would you ever do it, Crystal? You would do it, right?
Caroline Stanbury
Yeah. Everyone wants to do it.
Crystal Minkoff
Everybody wants to do the show.
Caroline Stanbury
Whoever says they don't like.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
All right, well, now we need to switch gears because we have to talk about what's really important, which is your lesbian retreat at the sequoia national park.
Caroline Stanbury
Actually, I was going to talk to you about Lesbian. We're not lesbians. But it was so good. I wouldn't mind being a lesbian afterwards. It was brilliant. But I have to say, none of your. My sales pitch here didn't work. Just so you know, because I was going to tell you, but you know what everyone called up about.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
We have to get a head start.
Caroline Stanbury
Well, maybe it's probably too expensive for, you know, here, but, but, but I'll tell you the one question. The things that everybody asked me, the blood. I mean, I need to have shares in the peptides. Now, if I get one more question from your show about peptides and how I stay young, that. That came loud and clear.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Okay, that is another. So we'll bounce around subjects. But that is another subject that I wanted to bring up because, you know, we see all these Instagram influencers, right, and they're all selling products and creams and peptides and pills and exercise equipment and all that.
Caroline Stanbury
I'm not selling them. I wish I was at the store.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
No, but you need to be. And I'll tell you why. Because there was an influencer in China that she. She allegedly, she lost 140,000 followers after a filter glitch revealed her true face. So here's someone that's making money selling all these beauty products that she's filtering herself. There's a filter glitch. You see her true face, she loses 140,000 followers and deals. You're the real deal. Like, I see you in person. You look incredible in person. You don't need a filter. And I always say that to Patty Sanger, too. She doesn't fucking need a filter. I don't know why she has a filter.
Caroline Stanbury
I got a filter face from.
Crystal Minkoff
She looks great.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
I know.
Caroline Stanbury
Well, I'm 50 and what, three? How many weeks now? Not long. Another month. And I think that's why I get all these questions. So I do. I need to think very quickly and, and. And do my own pet.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
You need to be monetizing this now. So back to your lesbian retreat now, how many? There were 17 women. Yes.
Caroline Stanbury
Okay, so 21 with all of us. It was brilliant.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Now, I did think it was funny that the campground, they heard their name mentioned on this show, and then they wanted. I think they wanted audio clips.
Co-host or Guest
Oh, no.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
And our concern was that we talked about. We said it was a scam. We said it was a lesbian retreat and we had to give, you know, we gave them the audio.
Caroline Stanbury
Gave them. You gave it to them?
Crystal Minkoff
Why do they want it?
Caroline Stanbury
Why would you do that?
Jeff Lewis (Host)
I don't know, I mean, I mean, they wanted to use it for marketing purposes, but I don't know if that's a good idea.
Co-host or Guest
I think their competitor should use that for marketing purposes.
Caroline Stanbury
Okay. Lesbian campground retreats. That's. But anyway, it was, you know what? Really, really fun. We had amazing women. One woman was selling, you know, like, her company to blackrock. One woman lives in Vegas and, like, has her own plane. Like, fabulous woman. Flew all the way over.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
But the weather looked terrible, didn't it?
Caroline Stanbury
Just added. I can't tell you how special it was. Ask any of them the messages they're putting now if they all want to come back.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
The ones that you put up or the ones that they put up.
Caroline Stanbury
I'm reposting them.
Crystal Minkoff
Dying campground and rain is not great.
Caroline Stanbury
It really was, but I can't afford it, so you know what it's like? You know what it was? It was just taking everybody out of their normal life. And we just had such a good time.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
So how many. How many Airstreams were there on the campgrounds?
Caroline Stanbury
Oh, I don't know. I think there's like 30 something.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Oh, so everyone had their own Airstream.
Caroline Stanbury
You're not sharing an Airstream. No. Yes. We all had our own Airstream.
Crystal Minkoff
Only discussing people.
Co-host or Guest
A bedroom in Phoenix, Arizona.
Crystal Minkoff
Correct.
Caroline Stanbury
Disgusting.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
So there you are, you're on a camp. You're. You're standing on a campground, it's raining marshmallows.
Caroline Stanbury
Were tears.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
And you're in a full length brown mink coat with a matching hat.
Caroline Stanbury
You. Do you follow me?
Jeff Lewis (Host)
It was like. It was like troop Beverly Hills.
Caroline Stanbury
Some of them. One of them lives in Bel Air, one of them lives as a hu. In. I mean, amazing women. They're all accomplished women. I don't know. I mean, you know, it was fabulous.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
How many nights did they have to stay?
Caroline Stanbury
3. They didn't have to stay.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Okay.
Crystal Minkoff
And then they want to go.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
And then you have like, campfires and small campfires.
Caroline Stanbury
We talk, we laughed. We had a best time. And because they're all from this kind of lifestyle, it was so fun bonding over our trailers. Everyone was like, oh, I'm not sure about the trailer. By the end, everyone's like, I want an Airstream. They loved it.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
It was nice. I saw a picture of the interior. It looks nice.
Caroline Stanbury
It's cute.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
And it smelled okay.
Caroline Stanbury
Smell perfect.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Okay.
Caroline Stanbury
I loved it. And then straight from there, we went to a luxury hotel in San Diego for a huge match. Like, it's not like we're not living there. It was an amazing Experience that all of them did. You saw my tents with all the chandeliers?
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Beautiful.
Caroline Stanbury
They were insane.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Until the hail came.
Caroline Stanbury
No, but that's what made it so special.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Oh. When the tent collapsed from the hail,
Caroline Stanbury
it didn't collapse, which I'm actually shocked by.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Did it dent the top of the Airstream, all that hail?
Caroline Stanbury
No, nothing. It was amazing. Like, you know, you'll feel free to reach out to these people and ask them if they enjoyed it, because they've all signed up for the next one.
Crystal Minkoff
It's fun making fun of her now, but I'm really looking forward to hearing after Phoenix, you guys all sharing bedrooms and bathrooms together, how that's going to go.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
So how many did people. How much? So 17 people.
Caroline Stanbury
Is it 10 grand a pop around that? Yeah.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
God, that's a great scam. And then do they put it on multiple. You max out their credit cards. Right. Or do you offer financing?
Caroline Stanbury
They don't need financing. Did I tell you who was on that trip?
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Okay.
Caroline Stanbury
Yeah. That's why nobody else. From your. Your. When you offered, what was it? To get double financing and max out their credit cards. No one signed up.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
I don't know why, because we're only charging 28%.
Crystal Minkoff
Weirdly, I think 10 grand makes sense for three nights.
Caroline Stanbury
Yeah, it's really nice.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Do you have staff there? Like, do you have a housekeeping service who's cleaning the Airstreams?
Caroline Stanbury
They are not the people staying, but.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
So you have to make your own bed?
Caroline Stanbury
Yes.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Okay. Do you have plenty of hot water in that Airstream?
Caroline Stanbury
Absolutely, yes.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Do they have generators? Are they hooked up to electrical?
Caroline Stanbury
Electrical, you know, everything. And then we had. The party planners came in and built these amazing sets for us. So every day was a different table layout, a different theme in the tent, different chefs came in. It was fantastic.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
So, like, what's a typical breakfast?
Caroline Stanbury
We had eggs, bacon, croissants, bagels, smoked salmon.
Co-host or Guest
Some traders.
Caroline Stanbury
I brought all of it in.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Wow. And then the first night was Mexican night.
Caroline Stanbury
Yes.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
So what did you have? You had margaritas. Margaritas and what else?
Caroline Stanbury
And we had quesadillas.
Co-host or Guest
Very mexicano.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
So you bring in quesadillas and margaritas and you call it Mexican night?
Caroline Stanbury
Yeah. The next day we had.
Crystal Minkoff
Is that from la?
Caroline Stanbury
What do you call it?
Crystal Minkoff
This is adorable. And quesadillas.
Caroline Stanbury
What do you call them?
Crystal Minkoff
And margaritas.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Did you have chips and salsa? Yes.
Caroline Stanbury
So they're called. Did we have chips and salsa? No, we didn't have chips and salsa.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Oh, that's too bad.
Caroline Stanbury
And then we did barbecue night. We did. We did. What else did we do? We did lots of different nights. Anyway, don't be jealous. You weren't on. Was fabulous.
Crystal Minkoff
No, it actually looks really cute.
Caroline Stanbury
Thank you.
Co-host or Guest
Should we go to the next one? Crystal?
Caroline Stanbury
Yes.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
So where's the learning part? Come in. Like, where do we learn? How do we learn?
Caroline Stanbury
So we do one on ones. Basically, each woman sort of tells their story and how they got here. And there was some incredible stories. One woman was a Jehovah's Witness and had to leave her whole family to
Jeff Lewis (Host)
go on this trip in life.
Caroline Stanbury
But that too.
Crystal Minkoff
The way you laugh at your own jokes.
Caroline Stanbury
I know no one else is. That's the problem. And it's just like pinnacle.
Co-host or Guest
Beautiful.
Caroline Stanbury
I love it.
Co-host or Guest
It looks like a wedding.
Caroline Stanbury
It is. I mean, that was just stunning. One woman was gorgeous.
Crystal Minkoff
You know, that's the new way, though. Like that kind of has before the halo. Like dinner table setting before.
Caroline Stanbury
Yes. It all collapsed. Exactly. Nothing collapsed.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
I bet those tents leaked.
Crystal Minkoff
No.
Caroline Stanbury
I swear to God, with all that rain on my life.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
But what about the mud going to and from your Airstreams?
Caroline Stanbury
We laughed and laughed and laughed. Like, we really had a good time.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
And everyone knew, I'm assuming, going in to prepare for.
Caroline Stanbury
Oh, my goodness. Yes. Yes. The oldest person that was there was 75 and a big art collector here. And she's so fabulous. At the beginning, she was like, I don't want to go on the group chat with the other ladies. I just came to meet you. And then by the end, she goes, put me in love, everyone. And it was so cute. And three of the girls came back to Beverly Hills and stayed in her house for the night.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
What do you do when your fur gets wet like that?
Caroline Stanbury
Dry it.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Okay. Because you're not supposed to get those furs wet.
Crystal Minkoff
Well, animals wet.
Caroline Stanbury
Mine's fake fur. Yes. It looks on my life. Desavray, it's okay.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
You can tell us.
Caroline Stanbury
I would tell you. It's de savre. Look it up. It's fake.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
It looks real.
Caroline Stanbury
I know it does. Everybody wanted it on there.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
That was a lie.
Caroline Stanbury
It was not a lie. Look it up.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
We don't care if it's real.
Caroline Stanbury
I don't. I would tell you.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Look at.
Caroline Stanbury
Can you.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
But you do have real fur somewhere.
Caroline Stanbury
I actually got rid of it all because I don't think it's worth the hate I get.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
To be honest. I think it's totally worth it. My daughter, I got her a beautiful
Caroline Stanbury
mink sable pink fox. Yeah, exactly. Something that's been for reals?
Jeff Lewis (Host)
For Christmas.
Co-host or Guest
So cute.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
It's gorgeous.
Crystal Minkoff
It's real.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Yeah, it's vintage.
Caroline Stanbury
Oh, that's what they all say. I detect. Oh, my God. You're going back. Here we go.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
You. There's the hail. Ooh, that doesn't look fun.
Caroline Stanbury
It was brilliant fun. So I was in there having my one on ones with the girls because we had so many heaters.
Crystal Minkoff
Those are.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
You needed them out there. It's freezing.
Crystal Minkoff
Wow.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
And God, it looks cold.
Crystal Minkoff
Is that real grass?
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Oh, it's so loud. How do you hear each other over the rain and the hail?
Caroline Stanbury
Well, that lasted about.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Oh, somebody's screaming. Somebody fell.
Caroline Stanbury
But, you know, in there, that's when we're doing the one on ones and we're all telling each other. So I went through and they tell each other tell me why they're here, and, you know, we sort of solve what the. The issues that they're looking at. And it's really, really, really, really special.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
How many people ask for their money back.
Caroline Stanbury
I've never had one and actually just connected the number. Wait, can I just. Can I just tell you, on every single one, I've had at least two people from the one before back. At least. And so this one, it's a culture. Yes. It's a cult.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Smart.
Caroline Stanbury
Yes. You've got one, but yours just need to monetize it.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
I need to monetize it? Like you've monetized your cult?
Crystal Minkoff
You should do a retreat.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
We should do a chump trip.
Caroline Stanbury
No one's going on a chump trip. Well, they will, but, I mean, you will be arrested on that chump trip. I can only imagine what would go down on that.
Crystal Minkoff
Can I tell you, you could actually charge so much. Like, Beyond Chum Con. You would. You could, like, really?
Caroline Stanbury
You could do it. I can see you on a Disney cruise with your lot.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
I want to go to that campground.
Co-host or Guest
Yes.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Go Sequoia national and stay in the Airstream.
Co-host or Guest
But maybe in the summer.
Caroline Stanbury
He's just gonna be on my coattails, isn't he? I'm going to the Maldives next.
Co-host or Guest
Oh, so are we.
Caroline Stanbury
Oh, are you?
Jeff Lewis (Host)
So how many of these are you gonna do a year? And so the same people go for a year.
Caroline Stanbury
Mm.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
So you reach out and say, oh, we have an exclusive offer for you. We'll give you 10% off. But not really.
Caroline Stanbury
No. I mean, first of all, no one's looking for any money. This is the wrong theme. We're not discounting if any. Anything. It's a Birkin bag of retreats. You come if you want to come, you come if you don't, don't. It's totally up to you. We've got 4,000 people waiting.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Speaking of Birkin bags, you're headed up to Paris, hopefully to get another one.
Caroline Stanbury
Yes, I'm going to.
Crystal Minkoff
Yes, we are both.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
You're both going together?
Caroline Stanbury
I'm getting a bag. Well, not together. I'm going for my birthday bag, and she's going.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Every year. You go for a birthday bag every year. How many Birkins do you have at this point, Caroline?
Caroline Stanbury
Enough.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
As many fur coats? Do you have as many fur coats as you do?
Caroline Stanbury
No, I got rid of my fur coats. I'm keeping my fur coats.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
So do you have two dozen, three dozen, one dozen?
Caroline Stanbury
I don't know. They're all boxed.
Crystal Minkoff
Oh, you keep them in boxes?
Caroline Stanbury
Well, I keep the ones out.
Crystal Minkoff
Okay.
Caroline Stanbury
Yeah. The ones I wear every day.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
And then how many do you have at this point?
Crystal Minkoff
I have a few.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
What is these people like? Who cares? Say it.
Crystal Minkoff
I don't count. I haven't.
Caroline Stanbury
She lives in la. Do you want.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Neither White. You are relatable. She was already robbed. Weren't you?
Caroline Stanbury
We're not related. People relate to us. They come up to us.
Crystal Minkoff
Of course they relate to us. Of course.
Caroline Stanbury
Maybe not on this show, but on other shows.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Yes, I see.
Crystal Minkoff
You make us talk about Birkins and her retreat.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
I'd hate for people to find out that you guys have more than one Birkin.
Crystal Minkoff
We have a few. I honestly have no idea.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
What color is that that you have today?
Crystal Minkoff
This is sort of. I don't know the name of the color.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
It's a pretty color.
Crystal Minkoff
Yeah, there's like a bluish, grayish, green.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
It's under the green.
Co-host or Guest
That's like the color of my eyes.
Caroline Stanbury
I don't have that. But I don't buy very many wint ones because I live in a very. I. I'm all about color for bright colors because I live in Dubai.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
So you don't like her back?
Caroline Stanbury
I do like a bag very much, but I wear. I.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
But you would never wear.
Co-host or Guest
She likes it for crystal, but not for herself.
Listener or Caller
I have a fashion question for them.
Crystal Minkoff
It's.
Listener or Caller
I have an Hermes Twilly. Can I put it on a different brand bag? Because I don't have an Hermes bag. So what do I do, just tie
Crystal Minkoff
it in my hair?
Caroline Stanbury
Yeah, you could. You could put it on a Chanel bag or something. No.
Commercial Narrator
Can you clarify what an Hermes Twilly is?
Co-host or Guest
Yeah.
Caroline Stanbury
What's a Twilly Put it in your head. Put in your hair.
Crystal Minkoff
Put in your hair like a bow.
Listener or Caller
That's what I usually do. But it's cute on your bag.
Crystal Minkoff
I don't know.
Caroline Stanbury
I don't know why you couldn't if you didn't have one.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Do you do twillies?
Crystal Minkoff
She would disagree.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
So do you do twillies on your bag?
Caroline Stanbury
I don't, but it's okay for. Crystal actually told me he would shoot me if I put one on my bag.
Crystal Minkoff
It's funny. Who's gonna shoot you?
Caroline Stanbury
Yeah.
Crystal Minkoff
And I always have one in my
Caroline Stanbury
bag when I see him.
Crystal Minkoff
He never says anything.
Listener or Caller
He doesn't shoot you.
Caroline Stanbury
Well, we've been friends over 50 years. He told me.
Crystal Minkoff
Can I tell you? I do it. I do it to keep my handle clean.
Caroline Stanbury
But you're right. I wear a lot of. I have white and it gets dirty. That's when I bought one, and he told me I couldn't put it.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
So you wouldn't be caught dead with Crystal's bag or Twilly.
Caroline Stanbury
I didn't say that. I like Crystal's bag very much. And I actually went to buy a twilly, and Michael wouldn't let me put it on my bag. But I have a white bag in Michael bag.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
I see.
Caroline Stanbury
Yes.
Crystal Minkoff
But I want to get a white one. I don't have a white bag.
Caroline Stanbury
Well, I got.
Crystal Minkoff
I don't have a white.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
When do you leave for Paris?
Crystal Minkoff
Soon.
Co-host or Guest
She doesn't say dates because her house.
Caroline Stanbury
Couple days. So is that what you. What you.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
But don't you have people at your home anyway?
Crystal Minkoff
Yeah. Like what I do.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Like, I always have someone at my house who cares.
Crystal Minkoff
Of course. I have a lot, and it's me.
Co-host or Guest
And I'm tough.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
You are.
Crystal Minkoff
But I still don't. And I'm going alone. It's not like. I mean, there's gonna be whole houses full, but still, I just don't.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Soon, okay.
Crystal Minkoff
Very soon. So I would love, like, after this. Not right after this. No.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
But what's happening with the cookware? I saw Doug.
Caroline Stanbury
He's doing very well.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
I saw Doug cooking with it.
Crystal Minkoff
Thank you. Yeah, it's awesome. I actually was cooking yesterday. I did, like, a Korean dinner for the family, and I literally. I was putting. I had all my vegetables, and I have a new cookware online, and I was, like, putting on the plate. I said to Rob, like, look how great this cookware is. Like, you don't have to even clean it. Like, you don't even need to use oil. It's crazy. It's the best stuff.
Caroline Stanbury
I want some.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
It's 14 pieces.
Crystal Minkoff
14 pieces.
Caroline Stanbury
Oh, how am I getting that home?
Crystal Minkoff
I don't know.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Well, you ship it to Dubai, right?
Caroline Stanbury
Well, yeah.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
It's only $219.99.
Caroline Stanbury
Well, I want one.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
How do you pronounce it again?
Crystal Minkoff
Bakken. Swiss is my.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
So when Doug promotes it, does it help or hurt your business?
Crystal Minkoff
I've yet to know. Yet.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Yeah, I'm guessing.
Caroline Stanbury
No.
Crystal Minkoff
Of course it helps because Doug is a real chef.
Caroline Stanbury
I think business.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
What?
Caroline Stanbury
Like after the last time he told me that I was going to be inundated, I think the lesbian retreat in a caravan actually hurt my business.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
I would. Honestly, I thought you would attract more lesbians. Just knowing you.
Caroline Stanbury
Rich lesbians.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Yeah, I guess there's not as many rich lesbians as I thought.
Crystal Minkoff
Yeah, I think they were.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
I thought they were on every corner.
Crystal Minkoff
You watch. It's. There's a line out the door.
Caroline Stanbury
Yeah.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Of rich lesbians. Yes.
Crystal Minkoff
She just isn't. It's.
Caroline Stanbury
It's. I haven't tapped in yet.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Are they buying your cookware?
Crystal Minkoff
Yes, they are, but it's a lot easier. Hers is one weekend. Mine is available all the time.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
And it's also. It sounds like a weekend from hell with rain and the hail and the. And the lack of hot water.
Crystal Minkoff
Incredibly fun to me.
Caroline Stanbury
Thank you. You may come on my rich lesbian retreat.
Crystal Minkoff
I'd love to. I love.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
I want to go just for Mexican night. I love quesadillas.
Crystal Minkoff
Me too.
Caroline Stanbury
Is that not Mexican?
Crystal Minkoff
No, just the way you said it was very adorable.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
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Caroline Stanbury
So if you'd like to join us, it is not exclusive to lesbians. You may.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Oh, so you've opened it up.
Caroline Stanbury
I've opened it up now.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Nice. And then you don't want.
Crystal Minkoff
She's a diverse queen.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
You want to sign up now and then you put a deposit down?
Caroline Stanbury
Yes.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Okay. We take all major credit cards.
Caroline Stanbury
We do.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Great. And you don't want to miss Mexican night and barbecue night.
Caroline Stanbury
Well, this will be in a hotel in a non so remote location. They were lucky. They got fed. Frankly, we were in the middle of nowhere.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Right, because you brought all the quesadillas in.
Caroline Stanbury
We brought all the quesadillas.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
And where did you get those? Costco.
Caroline Stanbury
And you just come in? We had proper catering.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Is that what you told them?
Caroline Stanbury
We look after it. Well, you can see there was a
Crystal Minkoff
guy making the tortillas and cheese.
Caroline Stanbury
You can see it. You'll see the people that come also for the different retreats, you'll see we're doing one in Bali at the end of the year. It's all led on where people are prepared to fly from. One woman came all the way from Australia. Australia for this one.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Wow. I mean, if there's a hotel involved and it's nice, I'd be up for it.
Crystal Minkoff
Yes.
Caroline Stanbury
Again, I just don't.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
I mean, I like an Airstream, but I just don't want to, you know, be in the midst of hail and rain and.
Caroline Stanbury
Well, you know, I mean, I could
Jeff Lewis (Host)
borrow my daughter's fur.
Caroline Stanbury
That's why they're small and that's why they're meant to be. We don't really take anyone, you know, people, we. Not really over 23, 24. Really.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
And did you say you're on some sort of shopping channel this week?
Caroline Stanbury
Shop LC on Thursday, 8pm in Texas. Yes. So shop LC for bust the Label. Tune in and see Sergio and I on Shop lc.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
What are you selling?
Caroline Stanbury
We're Selling our gummy range.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
What? What?
Co-host or Guest
What?
Caroline Stanbury
Wellness brand.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
A wellness brand.
Caroline Stanbury
Yes. Not the gummies you're all used to here.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Yes, I know. I took one last night, so.
Caroline Stanbury
Well, no, no, we can't do that. And also, we live in the Middle east, so we just don't promote anything.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
How many different products do you offer on the shopping channel?
Caroline Stanbury
We offer three.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Nice. And is it four easy payments?
Caroline Stanbury
Four easy payments. Yes. The chumps would be very happy with that. You don't need to take any loans.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Oh, okay.
Caroline Stanbury
Yeah. No.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Sofi. Personal loan.
Caroline Stanbury
Yep. No personal loans.
Co-host or Guest
And LS696891.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Oh, I see. Okay, so you have full bus bundle, essentials trio stress list kit. Oh, okay.
Caroline Stanbury
And now we've introduced. Well, this. We've actually got a whole new line as well that's being introduced this week on Shop LC, which will be GLP1s. Bust my stress, Bust my hunger. All of these kind of things.
Co-host or Guest
So it's brain fog. You should take that one.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Are you talking to me?
Co-host or Guest
Yeah.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
I'm seeing a Sandra on Friday.
Caroline Stanbury
Are you?
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Yep.
Caroline Stanbury
I actually did a podcast with him yesterday and he's seeing, actually the people that we were with all week, this today. So really nice.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Nad. What else am I doing?
Caroline Stanbury
Yep.
Co-host or Guest
Oh, BPC157. I'm doing that glow Peptide.
Caroline Stanbury
Yeah.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
I have to call Taja a Beatbowl because she said that she was gonna go through everything with me to ask Dr. Asandra. But maybe you could also just make recommendations and I'll write it down and talk to him. I also saw Kasabian. Dr. Kasabian.
Caroline Stanbury
Did you?
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Yes. He wants to. Nope. He wants to give me a whole new face.
Co-host or Guest
He hasn't done it yet.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Yeah, he was a little tough on me.
Caroline Stanbury
Oh, gosh. So the neck lift isn't enough?
Jeff Lewis (Host)
It wasn't enough for Dr. Kasabian.
Crystal Minkoff
What does he want you to do?
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Facelift, upper lower. Necklift lower. Facelift.
Co-host or Guest
Upper eyes. Lower eyes.
Caroline Stanbury
And so we're gonna.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
We're gonna, like, ease into this slowly, and I'm gonna get it.
Caroline Stanbury
I mean, look, I have to say, if you're going all in, go all in.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
I'm not going all in. I'm not going all in. I gotta do this. Baby steps. Baby steps.
Caroline Stanbury
Baby steps. Doesn't work.
Crystal Minkoff
It's like.
Caroline Stanbury
It's gonna be. It was gonna be a weird Picasso fit. Just do it. Yeah.
Listener or Caller
You don't have much time left. You need to hurry and get it done.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Yeah, he did give me Ozempic.
Caroline Stanbury
Thank God he did he did not
Co-host or Guest
let Jeff leave until he shot.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
No, he was adamant.
Crystal Minkoff
Have you tried it? Have you taken the shot already?
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Yeah, but it wore off on Friday, so I had lost. Then it wore off on Friday, and then I ate my way through the weekend, gained the five back. Now I'm back. So then I got my new shot yesterday. Now I'm back down, too.
Caroline Stanbury
So basically, you went to all these doctors, you cured yourself for a minute. You need a full facelift, and you got gonna get skinny. But none of it worked.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
I told him. And with all that work done, I might as well just get it. I mean, you might as well just do a face transplant at this point.
Caroline Stanbury
Yeah.
Crystal Minkoff
How much is it?
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Whose face?
Co-host or Guest
You.
Crystal Minkoff
Oh, I said a lot.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Do you not talk about prices? Because no one told me how much anything was going to cost.
Caroline Stanbury
No, I mean, it depends what you're choosing.
Co-host or Guest
If you have to ask, you can't afford it.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
That's what I thought. Like, it's just one of the. I can't. I don't ask.
Caroline Stanbury
100. Right. It depends. I don't know what he's choosing. Before, he was just going for the eyes. If he's.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
That's what I thought I needed. And then tried to upsell me.
Caroline Stanbury
Yeah.
Crystal Minkoff
Yeah. My girlfriend did her full sports package last year.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
I need the trio bundle for the doctor here.
Crystal Minkoff
It was 120, and now he charges, like, 180. In a year like that, everyone's getting
Jeff Lewis (Host)
facelift, so it's like, I can't afford that. And the retreat. I'd rather the retreat is a priority.
Caroline Stanbury
Yeah. Rah. I think the retreat's a priority, and I think you need it, so if you could. Yeah.
Crystal Minkoff
Can I be really honest? I'm not. It's not even promotion. I think Zerf works so well.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
I absolutely agree with you.
Crystal Minkoff
My face is. It's so much better.
Caroline Stanbury
What?
Crystal Minkoff
And I have virgin face.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
K Beauty.
Co-host or Guest
It's a laser, but.
Crystal Minkoff
Laser.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Okay. Virgin. Yeah.
Crystal Minkoff
What are you talking about?
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Oh, a virgin face.
Crystal Minkoff
It's my third laser in my life, and I've never injected. I've never anything.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
And I'm telling you, virgin face. Okay.
Crystal Minkoff
Virgin face.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
It does work.
Crystal Minkoff
No. So I feel like I can attest to it because I've never. Like, it's not mixing with other things. Like, I haven't done anything. So, like, I've literally.
Caroline Stanbury
How old are you, though?
Crystal Minkoff
I'm only 43. So, like, I get.
Caroline Stanbury
You're a baby. I'm 50.
Crystal Minkoff
But what I'm saying is I did a laser and I.65 at least. And I saw. I really have seen the difference. Like, I was in the mirror and I was like, observe works. It really does.
Caroline Stanbury
At 43, we all looked like you.
Crystal Minkoff
All right, but I've already thing. I'm saying, like, it does work. It does work.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
It does work.
Crystal Minkoff
So if you're out there, like on the fence, keep going.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
When am I due back? Like you told me, six weeks.
Co-host or Guest
Yeah. So like, a few more.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Let's go right now.
Crystal Minkoff
But it literally, like tightens.
Caroline Stanbury
I would. Hang up your earphones and run.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
I can't get there fast enough.
Caroline Stanbury
Yeah, we'll finish the show. It's okay. But you know what I mean. Also, it's. It works. Oh, here we go. Lasers. I know, but then there's a certain age. I do lasers as well.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
And you look great, Crystal.
Caroline Stanbury
Yeah, she does. She's got amazing skin.
Crystal Minkoff
Stop laughing. No one's laughing. Laser.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
For context, we're looking at a video of another Asian woman.
Crystal Minkoff
Yes, that's right.
Caroline Stanbury
I did it. I did it for my neck.
Co-host or Guest
Set him up for scissors.
Caroline Stanbury
You don't. You don't have. It works.
Crystal Minkoff
His neck. No, I don't have his neck.
Co-host or Guest
You don't have gender.
Caroline Stanbury
Thank God.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
You should have seen my neck before the zerf.
Caroline Stanbury
Thank God.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
I'm glad that you got here after dessert.
Caroline Stanbury
Yeah, thank God. I would not have been able to concentrate.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Now, it's true that you are. You're opening a new spa. Is this in Dubai?
Caroline Stanbury
No, I am the face of new spas across the Middle east and New York and London. It's for Bulldozer Group. You know them?
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Is it sakura? Is that what you're saying?
Caroline Stanbury
So he is. He owns all the. He's the founder of Bulldozer Group. So they have 220 restaurants. You know them. Everything from Gaia Cipriani to. He's the founder of the whole thing.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
But do you realize what you've signed up for? These are high end bath houses.
Caroline Stanbury
Oh, I'm.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Yeah, Premium bathhouses.
Caroline Stanbury
I'm gonna be whipped by. What are they called? Banya with steam rooms.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
The most luxurious and large baths.
Caroline Stanbury
What have you been doing all week? Literally looking into my life. But you know what?
Jeff Lewis (Host)
I'm actually a lot of places to
Caroline Stanbury
try jerk off and I mean, yes, probably. I don't know what boys do in bath houses, but I'm in the other side. I'll be in the female side. But you know what? This will be the most luxurious one you've ever seen. These guys are. You know, there's no. 220 restaurants that you know of.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Right, but we're talking about the Bath House.
Caroline Stanbury
Yes.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Which I imagine you're gonna. You'll probably draw in a lot of gays and a lot of swing.
Caroline Stanbury
Not in the Middle East, I doubt,
Jeff Lewis (Host)
but yeah, never know.
Caroline Stanbury
Maybe in New York.
Crystal Minkoff
No, I bet in the Middle east that actually makes more sense.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
When does it open? Because I would like to be their opening day.
Caroline Stanbury
May 26th. And I'm having you blacklisted.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
May 26th.
Co-host or Guest
Really?
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Yeah, it's coming up.
Caroline Stanbury
They've already opened in London, I think, but it's going to be the chicest day spa ever made. You've never seen anything like it.
Crystal Minkoff
It's the chicest. I remember that is the chest. Did you return faster than you, James?
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Annie, did you return the ski clothes you borrowed from Crystal?
Listener or Caller
We haven't yet, but she texted me and she was like, you guys can keep all the stuff except the North Face.
Crystal Minkoff
I've seen that one pair of pants. She can keep the whole.
Listener or Caller
So nice.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
How do you clean those? Dry cleaning?
Crystal Minkoff
Yeah, you dry clean.
Caroline Stanbury
You go to the store.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
You should dry clean it for her. We will.
Caroline Stanbury
No, she didn't. You guys didn't even wear them.
Listener or Caller
No, we didn't wear those. North.
Crystal Minkoff
Yeah.
Co-host or Guest
Pants.
Caroline Stanbury
Wait, I don't understand.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
They went skiing. Yeah, Crystal lent them all of the ski clothes this weekend.
Listener or Caller
Yeah, it was so nice.
Crystal Minkoff
But they looked so cute on them, so I just said, keep them.
Caroline Stanbury
How did you know?
Jeff Lewis (Host)
What do you mean?
Caroline Stanbury
They look so cute. You came in here with a whole load of ski clothes and they posted it.
Crystal Minkoff
No, they already went. Last week. Yeah, I gave them last.
Caroline Stanbury
Oh, you posted saying, does anyone have ski clothes?
Listener or Caller
No, we were at a party. We were talking about we're going skiing. She's like, do you have clothes you can borrow mine. Then I posted in the outfits.
Caroline Stanbury
Oh, I see.
Crystal Minkoff
And they looked cuter on.
Co-host or Guest
And she eat them up.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Oh, is it Jenny? Ginny, Illinois, line one.
Crystal Minkoff
Cute.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Like what is it Ginny? Hi, Jenny.
Caller or Listener
Shout out, shout out. Jen, shout out.
Co-host or Guest
Jenny, questions for you.
Caller or Listener
Oh, Caroline.
Caroline Stanbury
Yes.
Caller or Listener
I have a question for you. Michael Rappaport was talking to Andy Cohen and said there was a bit of a situation with Dorinda.
Caroline Stanbury
Yes.
Caller or Listener
Other traders.
Caroline Stanbury
Yes.
Caller or Listener
How did that go? What happened?
Caroline Stanbury
She called me bossy. I called her bossy. I think, you know, Dorinda wanted me to react a certain way to Donna, Kelsey and the Swifties and I wasn't playing ball. That's all, you know, very housewives. But it's not being shown.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
So it's just one little.
Caroline Stanbury
Oh, yeah. And with housewives, you know, we. We fight like sisters all the time. And then you're over it. I've known Dorindra many, many, many years.
Crystal Minkoff
Yeah, but for other people, they find it kind of intense. Yeah, like the way we fight, we're
Caroline Stanbury
like, oh, okay, you want to go for lunch?
Crystal Minkoff
Yeah. You just fight.
Caroline Stanbury
Yeah.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
So it's been resolved. There's no bad blood. There's nothing. Okay, good, Good. I love Tarinda.
Crystal Minkoff
Yeah, she's so funny.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
But, you know, I noticed that, you know, I have a nice relationship with her. We've never fought. We never. But, you know, she can be a little prickly sometimes with people.
Caroline Stanbury
And, you know, look, we've only ever fought. Fought in that situation. We've never fought in any other situation in our lives, to be honest. So, you know, we kind of park it.
Crystal Minkoff
You guys would go up against each other.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Who?
Crystal Minkoff
You and Joanna would fight?
Jeff Lewis (Host)
I don't know.
Caroline Stanbury
Yeah, in a house, you probably would fight.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
I don't know. I don't know about that. I've known her for years. We really do get along great. I don't know.
Crystal Minkoff
You'd make up, but you guys would fight. You guys would fight.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Okay, maybe that is the case. We would make up right away because I don't want to.
Caroline Stanbury
It's just over time, right? It's like, oh, there we go. There's my bath house.
Co-host or Guest
Look at that.
Crystal Minkoff
Those look gorgeous.
Caroline Stanbury
Exactly. No one's going in.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
That is really beautiful.
Caroline Stanbury
Can you say that, Delta One?
Jeff Lewis (Host)
No, I think they are.
Co-host or Guest
But that looks like a beautiful place to jerk off.
Caroline Stanbury
Yeah. But anyway, that's my new home away from home. And don't be jealous. That's where I'll be doing all my meetings. Yes, it's spectacular. They don't do anything by half.
Co-host or Guest
What happened to the VIP room?
Caroline Stanbury
Oh, you get butlers, too? They have their own. You have your own butler to serve you when you're in there. And basically, I've got a very tough job of just. Just having to be at all of them.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
You know who you should hire? Ryan Bailey would be great.
Crystal Minkoff
Amazing.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
He has a lot of spa experience.
Caroline Stanbury
No, they don't need to hire anyone else. This. I am the face.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
But no, no, no. He would work there.
Caroline Stanbury
Oh, yeah.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Like, help people with tiles.
Caroline Stanbury
Kasabian's going to work out of there, too.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Do you have.
Caroline Stanbury
Is it a visiting doctor?
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Is it a monthly membership? Do you have initiation?
Caroline Stanbury
No, day spas.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Oh, so you just pay by the Day.
Caroline Stanbury
Yeah.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Okay. That's great.
Co-host or Guest
It's great for. If you're, like, traveling.
Crystal Minkoff
It's beautiful.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
It really is beautiful.
Crystal Minkoff
I mean, it looks expensive.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Wait, are there any in la?
Caroline Stanbury
Can I tell you how I met the Found Bulldozer Group? Just. It's so good because, like, all the restaurants that you've ever heard of, they own pretty much. And we didn't meet in a restaurant. We met on. In the Himalayas. On the Himalayas. I climbed the Himalayas for 12 days, and the other person on the mountain was him. Wow. Isn't that crazy?
Jeff Lewis (Host)
You climbed Himalayas?
Caroline Stanbury
Yes, unfortunately, by mistake. I was drunk, said yes and didn't realize. I thought I was going to stard for a weekend, but that's another story. But I got to the top 5,700 meeting meters, 12 days, and that's who I climbed with. And he was at my wedding. He was at our. When we got. When Sergio proposed. I'm now the face of his companies.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
You're very adventurous. Yeah, that's the last thing I'd want to do.
Co-host or Guest
We don't do anything Himalayas.
Caroline Stanbury
No, I know you don't really leave this.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
I don't even want to climb Runyon.
Crystal Minkoff
I tell you, you would love it. I've actually been to Himalayas, but I took a helicopter.
Caroline Stanbury
Helicopter.
Crystal Minkoff
Way easier.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
That's what I would do.
Crystal Minkoff
Way easier.
Caroline Stanbury
Oh, I've done a lot of adventures. I drove across Europe with Paris Hilton. We did a whole week, except she came without a driving license, so I had to drive. I was the only person that had to drive the whole way by themselves. You were meant to switch.
Crystal Minkoff
Why did you do this?
Caroline Stanbury
Charity. That one, the other one, I don't know. But we. We have. I've done some adventurous things.
Crystal Minkoff
Wait, was that the red car thing?
Caroline Stanbury
Yes. Yeah, yeah.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
So question. I mean, I'm sure people that are listening know you from Ladies of London. And now there's going to be. It's Ladies of London, the new Reign, which I know is gonna premiere on Bravo March 5th. Are you making any sort of appearances?
Caroline Stanbury
Oddly, I'm about to go back and film another appearance on Housewives of London. So it's a bit confusing. Cause my friends, even the ones that were on Ladies of London, are now on Housewives of London. So I.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Wait, what network is that?
Caroline Stanbury
That. Hey, you. I. It's very confusing.
Crystal Minkoff
So super confusing.
Co-host or Guest
We don't get that. But that's Housewives in Europe.
Caroline Stanbury
For Europe.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Yes.
Caroline Stanbury
It's very weird. And the. The new ones are much younger, so I don't really know any of this new reign. So, no, I haven't been asked to appear on that one. But from what I understood, they, you know, are trying to distance it from all of us old ones.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
So the Housewives of London is all our friends. Are those were the ladies that were on before?
Commercial Narrator
Yeah.
Caroline Stanbury
One of them, Juliet and Caroline Fleming, who was in it with me, has now moved to the Middle East. So if Housewives of Dubai ever come back, we'll have to have her on, won't we? And she's just moved into my community, which is annoying.
Crystal Minkoff
So it's a new show, Housewives.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
This is annoying.
Caroline Stanbury
Yes. Cause, you know, close the windows, she'll come through any of them.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Oh. Oh, that sounds like shade. I'm very curious. Cause it's gotten a little cold outside. It got cold, and then it got warm. You and Rob fight over the thermostat?
Crystal Minkoff
Yes, all the time.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Do you and Sergio fight over the thermostat all the time. This is a. It is a universal, relatable thing. It doesn't matter how much money you have, how much.
Crystal Minkoff
We're relatable.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
This is the relatable part of the show. So do you like it cold or hot?
Caroline Stanbury
I like it cold. I like the windows open. He likes it boiling, and he wants me to literally lie on top of him at all times, and I can't. I literally.
Crystal Minkoff
You and Rob can live together.
Caroline Stanbury
I sweat today.
Crystal Minkoff
It's so disgusting. I love it fresh. Cold is fresh. Clean. It's so it. I have been fighting all week. Like, I'm. I've had it.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Even in the coldest nights. I watched my thermostat go down to 60, and I loved it. Yeah, I love it freezing.
Crystal Minkoff
But this is the weird thing.
Caroline Stanbury
So last night, so you can sleep with soju.
Crystal Minkoff
This was the first day it started to get, like, normal weather, Right? So last night, it's like, our house is, like, 69, 70. Just naturally. And then he's hot, so he turns on the air, and I'm like, the cold air. I was like, open the fucking windows.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Yeah.
Crystal Minkoff
Like, now. Yesterday you have the heater on, and now you have the air conditioning on.
Caroline Stanbury
Open the windows. Open the fucking windows. That is the thing. Why does no one want fresh air?
Crystal Minkoff
I know, it's horrible. It's so maddening.
Caroline Stanbury
I grew up in the English countryside. You have fresh air. You breathe it in, breathe it through your nose. It's amazing, no?
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Does he just get up and switch the thermostat and you get angry, or does he know better now?
Caroline Stanbury
No, he does it when I'm asleep. He waits and does it stealth. And then I wake up in the middle of the night, literally in a pile of my own sweat with my hair that I've just had done, like, glued to my head. And I know he's done it. I know it.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
And then.
Caroline Stanbury
So I will literally kick him in the balls and say, get up
Jeff Lewis (Host)
now. Will Rob sneak and turn on the heater when you're asleep?
Crystal Minkoff
Yes. And so will my. They all do it. And then I wake up, and I just shut it all off. And then I open all the windows, and I get. I mean, I don't understand. It makes no sense.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
I think you have to send a very big message.
Caroline Stanbury
Separate bedrooms.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
No, I'd rip that thermostat out of the wall.
Crystal Minkoff
I don't. I have. There's a lot of them.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
I'd rip them all out of the wall and just say, every time you fuck with the heater, I'm gonna rip the thermostat out of the wall, Rob. And here's the $900 bill to replace.
Crystal Minkoff
I'm really there. It's really a problem.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
I can't stand it.
Crystal Minkoff
It's disgusting.
Caroline Stanbury
It's every marriage.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
No, it.
Caroline Stanbury
Marriage universal.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
My employees do it.
Crystal Minkoff
Oh, that's annoying.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
That's fucking annoying. And I told him. And I've. I. I even said something to Aurora. I said, if I ever catch you touching that thermostat again, you will be fired on the spot. She doesn't give a shit. And she knows I'm lying, but I'm like, you. And then she, like, looks at me and kind of smirks at me. I go, you'll be suspended without pay.
Crystal Minkoff
Then you know what? Who does. It is like, when I have house sitters when I'm out of town and I get home, and I'm like, the way the.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
All.
Crystal Minkoff
The whole house system is running, all. It's all on. I'm like, this whole two weeks.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Yeah.
Crystal Minkoff
I've been spending so much money on these fucking. You know.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Now let me ask you this, because you both have staff. I have. So I've been in the same house for four years. The parking restrictions have not changed. It's very clear. You can't park on the. I think it's the south side of the street on Mondays, and you can't park on the. On the north side of the street on Tuesdays. So my housekeeper, for whatever reason, forgets, screws up, gets a ticket. I said, I've already paid three of your tickets. Tickets. We've been here for four years. Nothing has changed. You should know the rules. I'm not paying it because I already paid the other ones. So then she told me today I forgot to pay it, and it doubled, and now it's $140. I'm like, oh, don't do it, Jeff. Don't do it. And I just was like. I was quiet. Would you pay it?
Crystal Minkoff
Yeah, begrudgingly.
Caroline Stanbury
I would pay it.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
She's never gonna learn.
Caroline Stanbury
But she does need to learn it.
Crystal Minkoff
She does.
Co-host or Guest
But what's a lot of money?
Jeff Lewis (Host)
But it's a lot of money.
Crystal Minkoff
It's a lot of money. And then what's going to happen? Will she leave?
Caroline Stanbury
Yeah.
Crystal Minkoff
Then you're gonna be like, was it worth it?
Co-host or Guest
She's not gonna leave.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Oh, she's not gonna leave. Where's she gonna go? She has no skill.
Crystal Minkoff
It's a lot of money. I know it's tough.
Caroline Stanbury
Just do it once and say this is once.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
Fourth time, Caroline. Fourth time.
Co-host or Guest
Just do the fourth time.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
And now it doubled because she's so irresponsible. She didn't pay it.
Crystal Minkoff
You don't have permits.
Co-host or Guest
We do. She had a permit, but she was on the street. It was street cleaning.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
So she's on the wrong side of the street. She thought she was good because she had the permit. No, it's street cleaning. It's so annoying.
Caroline Stanbury
It's irritating, but it's life. Unfortunately.
Crystal Minkoff
Yeah, there's nothing. It's just part of the salary. I know. I don't. I know it's a answer, but I'm
Jeff Lewis (Host)
gonna have to pay it.
Crystal Minkoff
Yeah, the double is really annoying because I pay people so fast. Like, I hate stuff like that. I hate interest.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
It's just a waste of money.
Crystal Minkoff
Waste of money.
Co-host or Guest
Literally.
Crystal Minkoff
It's all a waste of money.
Caroline Stanbury
When my daughter went to the airport, she bought all this creams and stuff from Target from, you know, on my credit card yesterday. Went straight to the airport, and they took it out of her bag and put it straight in the bin. No, all of it. And then she said, could you go buy me more? And I'm like, oh, my God, that's a waste.
Jeff Lewis (Host)
All right, I'll pay it. Thanks for listening. If you want more of this, listen to Jeff Lewis Lad every weekday on SiriusXM as well as the Jeff Lewis Channel, exclusively on the SiriusXM app.
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Episode: Caroline Stanbury & Crystal Minkoff: Lesbian Retreat & Thermostat
In this lively episode, Jeff Lewis welcomes Caroline Stanbury and Crystal Minkoff for a no-filter, often hilarious discussion that ranges from juicy reality TV drama to personal wellness routines, luxurious lesbian retreats, skincare obsessions, the battle over thermostats, and life’s everyday messes. True to form, Jeff and his guests mix personal revelations, sharp banter, and insider stories, balancing relatability with their unmistakable upper-echelon flair.
Timestamps: 01:21–10:55
Timestamps: 10:55–16:52, 31:43–32:49
Timestamps: 11:53–12:58; 33:01–37:32
Timestamps: 38:32–44:11
Timestamps: 22:26–25:07
Timestamps: 46:31–49:02
Timestamps: 49:02–51:24
Caroline Stanbury:
Jeff Lewis:
Crystal Minkoff:
| Segment | Timestamp | |--------------------------|-------------------------| | Reality TV & “Traders” | 01:21–10:55 | | Lesbian Retreat Overview | 10:55–16:52, 31:43–32:49| | Skincare/Wellness | 11:53–12:58, 33:01–37:32| | Spa Ventures/Himalayas | 38:32–44:11 | | Fashion & Birkins | 22:26–25:07 | | Thermostat Rants | 46:31–49:02 | | Staff/Parenting Drama | 49:02–51:24 |
The conversation is a mix of biting humor, open confessions, and slightly absurd luxury—a signature blend for Jeff Lewis and his socialite reality star guests. The banter is fast, self-aware, and spiked with both self-mockery and unfiltered realness, making it both aspirational and oddly relatable.
For listeners hoping to understand the latest twists in reality TV, learn the inside scoop on posh retreats, get candid wellness advice, or just validate their thermostat rage—this episode delivers classic Jeff Lewis: autonomous, a little outrageous, and always entertaining.