Crystal Minkoff & Joey Zauzig: Summer Camp & Cringe Mountain

Summary

Jeff Lewis Has Issues: Episode Summary

Episode: Crystal Minkoff & Joey Zauzig: Summer Camp & Cringe Mountain
Release Date: March 14, 2025
Host: Jeff Lewis
Guests: Crystal Minkoff & Joey Zauzick

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Introduction and Social Gatherings

Timestamp: [01:27] – [02:35]

Jeff Lewis kicks off the episode by welcoming his guests, Crystal Minkoff and Joey Zauzick. The conversation quickly delves into a recent social gathering at Craig's, where Jeff spent time with the Dubai Housewives, including Taline and Chanel. Jeff shares his enthusiasm about the event, highlighting the fun atmosphere and the great company.

Jeff Lewis [01:49]: "Yeah. They’re so fun. It was such a great group."

Crystal expresses disappointment about not receiving an invitation, leading to a humorous exchange about future invites.

Crystal Minkoff [01:53]: "I didn't get the invite."

Jeff Lewis [01:55]: "We should have invited Joey."

The Monroe School Banner Incident

Timestamp: [02:50] – [08:43]

The core of the episode focuses on a contentious issue involving a banner promoting Monroe's school's summer program, which featured a picture of Monroe without prior consent. Jeff explains how he initially viewed the banner as an innocent mistake, believing someone at the school had mishandled the promotion.

Jeff Lewis [04:50]: "There was a. I don't. At least one banner... It was just a cute pic."

However, tensions escalate when Jeff's father, Mike, confronts him via email, accusing him of endangering Monroe by revealing her school's information. Jeff vehemently defends himself, labeling his father as "a total dipshit" for overreacting.

Jeff Lewis [05:24]: "Don't tell anyone."

Jeff Lewis [05:44]: "You put her in harm's way, you're endangering her. Unbelievable."

The conversation reveals deeper family conflicts regarding custody and Jeff's struggles with co-parenting Monroe. Jeff discusses his efforts to enroll Monroe in beneficial summer programs, only to face resistance from his ex, leading to legal battles.

Jeff Lewis [07:04]: "I think the irony of this is that... he would not participate in summer school... so I had to take him to court. I lost."

Crystal and Snow White (Jeff's partner) add their perspectives, emphasizing the logistical challenges and emotional strain caused by these disputes.

Crystal Minkoff [08:17]: "I think this was a complete oversight."

Snow White [08:38]: "You guys are so contentious."

Listener Feedback: Daisy Sauce on MJ’s Conflicts

Timestamp: [14:22] – [17:09]

A listener named Daisy Sauce calls in to express frustration with MJ's handling of conflicts on the show. She criticizes MJ for being defensive and not taking accountability, contrasting her behavior with how Jeff and his team address issues with Joey.

Daisy Sauce [14:39]: "It's incredibly frustrating to listen to her talk about conflict with her. She becomes extremely defensive."

Jeff responds by asserting his empathy towards MJ, acknowledging her personal struggles while maintaining that her issues are affecting her professional life.

Jeff Lewis [16:24]: "I am empathetic and sympathetic to MJ because I'm very aware of her struggles in her personal life."

The segment highlights the tension between maintaining professionalism and personal relationships within the podcast team.

Financial Fraud and Personal Struggles

Timestamp: [19:07] – [23:32]

Crystal shares a harrowing experience of having $4,000 stolen daily from her PayPal account due to fraud. She details the anxiety and steps taken to address the situation, including contacting her bank and PayPal.

Crystal Minkoff [19:20]: "Someone has been taking $4,000 from me a day for two weeks."

Jeff attempts to calculate the total amount stolen, leading to a humorous yet concerning exchange about the extent of the fraud.

Jeff Lewis [20:24]: "4,000 a day times 14 is 56,000."

Snow White relates by sharing her own experiences with frequent credit card fraud, underscoring a broader issue of financial insecurity among the hosts.

Snow White [21:11]: "My business manager’s like, oh, we’re submitting a new credit card. We just have fraud every month."

Social Media and "Cringe Mountain"

Timestamp: [23:32] – [28:17]

The discussion shifts to the pressures of maintaining a social media presence. Snow White criticizes Crystal for her "cringe" posts about being busy, labeling them as attention-seeking.

Snow White [25:08]: "I hate cringy posts of any kind."

Crystal defends her social media activity, explaining the necessity of regular engagement but acknowledges moments of regret over past posts.

Crystal Minkoff [27:40]: "Sometimes I post things and I'll look back at it and be like, that was really cringe."

Jeff introduces the concept of "Cringe Mountain," suggesting that overcoming embarrassing moments is part of achieving success.

Crystal Minkoff [28:17]: "Sometimes in climbing, sometimes in my world, to become successful, you have to climb Cringe Mountain."

Game Segment: Are You Smarter Than a Chump?

Timestamp: [31:25] – [37:12]

To lighten the mood, Jeff initiates a game called "Are You Smarter Than a Chump?" where he asks sixth-grade general knowledge questions to Crystal and Joey. The segment is filled with playful banter and humorous mistakes.

Sample Questions and Highlights:

1. Largest Ocean

   • Jeff Lewis [31:43]: "What is the largest ocean?"
   • Crystal Minkoff [31:44]: "The Atlantic."
   • Snow White [31:46]: "Pacific."
   • Jeff Lewis [31:46]: "You are correct, Snow! The Pacific."

2. Square Root of 64

   • Jeff Lewis [36:38]: "What is the square root of 64?"
   • Crystal Minkoff [36:52]: "34 Fahrenheit."
   • Snow White [36:58]: "8."

3. First Person on the Moon

   • Jeff Lewis [35:47]: "Who was the first person to walk on the moon?"
   • Crystal Minkoff [35:53]: "Neil Armstrong."
   • Snow White [35:56]: "Armstrong."
   • Jeff Lewis [36:06]: "I give it to Snow."

Crystal emerges as the winner of the game, having missed only one question.

Jeff Lewis [37:00]: "Crystal only missed one out of 16. We'll take it as a draw."

Conclusion

Timestamp: [37:17] – [37:30]

Jeff wraps up the episode by encouraging listeners to tune into his weekday live shows on SiriusXM and the Jeff Lewis Channel for more content.

Jeff Lewis [37:17]: "Thanks for listening. If you want more of this, listen to Jeff Lewis Live every weekday on SiriusXM as well as the Jeff Lewis Channel exclusively on the SiriusXM app."

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Notable Quotes:

• Jeff Lewis [05:24]: "You put her in harm's way, you're endangering her. Unbelievable."

• Crystal Minkoff [36:55]: "Please, dipshit goons, don't come for me for not knowing the square root of 64. It's eight."

• Snow White [25:08]: "I hate cringy posts of any kind. I."

• Jeff Lewis [28:17]: "Sometimes in climbing, sometimes in my world, to become successful, you have to climb Cringe Mountain."

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This episode of "Jeff Lewis Has Issues" offers a raw and unfiltered look into Jeff's personal and professional struggles, ranging from family conflicts and financial fraud to the challenges of maintaining a public persona. Through candid conversations and humorous interactions, listeners gain insight into the complexities of Jeff's life and his approach to handling various issues.

Transcript

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[Crystal Minkoff]

When you're Jeff Lewis, the drama never stops.

[Jeff Lewis]

I don't need therapy. I don't need a prayer service. I need the fucking facts. Get to the point. She shut me down.

[Crystal Minkoff]

I know.

[Jeff Lewis]

She's like, I don't want this toxic man near me. See?

[Joey Zauzick]

You're a nice person.

[Jeff Lewis]

Don't tell anyone.

[Joey Zauzick]

Well, nobody thinks it, so it doesn't matter.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Jeff Lewis has issues.

[Jeff Lewis]

Hey, welcome to Jeff Lewis Has Issues. In today's episode, Crystal Minkoff and Joey Zauczyk join the show. We talk about a big mistake, financial fraud and sixth grade knowledge. Crystal, I feel like I saw you seven hours ago.

[Snow White]

Well, because you did. Lucky you.

[Jeff Lewis]

We had drinks at Craig's last night.

[Snow White]

That was fun.

[Jeff Lewis]

With the Dubai Housewives. Who? I love Taline and Chanel.

[Snow White]

You were in love.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah.

[Snow White]

Yeah, they're fun.

[Jeff Lewis]

They're so fun. It was such a great group.

[Crystal Minkoff]

I didn't get the invite.

[Jeff Lewis]

I'm sorry.

[Snow White]

Next time.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Shame.

[Jeff Lewis]

We should have invited Joey.

[Joey Zauzick]

It wasn't me. My place. Talene invited us. Or Ayaan invited us.

[Snow White]

Yeah, both of them.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Okay, next time, I guess.

[Jeff Lewis]

Well, I initially just thought it was gonna be the three of us. And then I said, hey, can Shane come along? You said, of course. And then when I got there, Taline was there, which was great.

[Snow White]

I didn't know Taline was gonna be there, so I was surprised when I saw her. But I thought she was so fun. More the merrier.

[Joey Zauzick]

And then we saw Margaret Josephs.

[Snow White]

Oh, yes.

[Joey Zauzick]

Which was really weird.

[Jeff Lewis]

Who was in Town for two days.

[Crystal Minkoff]

That's crazy.

[Snow White]

That was random.

[Crystal Minkoff]

But she also would be at Craig's. It's like of you could die back there.

[Jeff Lewis]

So we have dragged you. We've dragged your coconut water. But I have to tell you, it is a good hangover cure.

[Snow White]

Yes, it is.

[Joey Zauzick]

And it was tasty.

[Jeff Lewis]

And my entire household went through that case of water that you sent me in days.

[Joey Zauzick]

We were so hydrated.

[Snow White]

Really?

[Jeff Lewis]

That week?

[Snow White]

Really? I was saying your skin looks extra hydrated.

[Joey Zauzick]

Not anymore.

[Snow White]

Last night was a lot.

[Jeff Lewis]

So we can't mention the school? Well, I mean, people might know by now, but we can't mention Monroe school. But, you know, I told Crystal what happened, which is a mistake, but basically what happened is there was a. I don't. At least one banner. Big, big banners that were put up promoting Monroe's school's summer program with a single picture, very cute. Of Monroe. So I. I didn't overreact because I'm like, oh, my God. This is clearly an error. How many did they print? They obviously had went to some expense, you know, putting. Installing these, renting the spaces, the whole thing. So I thought, look, somebody made a mistake. I'm not gonna make a big deal out of it. Monroe's, like, over the moon excited.

[Joey Zauzick]

She thinks she's a supermodel.

[Snow White]

Yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah. She thinks she's famous. And I had to, like, tell her today. I said, look, don't let this fame go to your head. A lot of people are gonna be coming up to you. They're gonna want selfies. They're gonna want to talk to you. I said, be nice to everyone int. Get their name. And I said, you know, it's work being famous. Don't you think, Crystal?

[Snow White]

A lot of work.

[Joey Zauzick]

And then she tried to use that as an excuse to not do her homework.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah. So what did she say? I said, you need to do your. I said, you need to do your reading. 30 minutes of reading. And what'd she say?

[Joey Zauzick]

She's like, daddy, I'm famous. Famous people don't read.

[Jeff Lewis]

And I said, no, no, your daddy doesn't read. I said, other famous people read.

[Snow White]

Okay, you have to be really careful. You gotta get that billboard down because she's gonna really use it hard.

[Crystal Minkoff]

She.

[Jeff Lewis]

It's already down already.

[Joey Zauzick]

What?

[Jeff Lewis]

Because. Oh, yeah, it was taken down this morning because Daddy Gage sent an email to the head of the school.

[Joey Zauzick]

Oh, my God.

[Jeff Lewis]

And let me just. I knew he was gonna blame me, and I knew he was angry, and obviously he. It's always everything is my fault. Everything in life.

[Snow White]

Wait, was his email polite or was it.

[Jeff Lewis]

I don't know. So this was the text that he sent me.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Oh, my gosh.

[Jeff Lewis]

Someone sent me a message that you are laughing about some kind of billboard showing Monroe promoting Blank summer camp in public. Do you realize how dangerous that is? That people would know what school she goes to? I said, I have nothing to do with it. I figured you'd lose your shit. He said, but you told your audience today that you thought it was funny, and you have. And you have not told me about it or done anything else about it. Is the banner in public or on the school campus? I said, I find it funny, and I don't plan on doing anything about it.

[Snow White]

You guys are so contentious.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Like, crazy. How did that even happen? If it's gonna get good, it's gonna get good.

[Jeff Lewis]

She's like, of course you find it funny because she's just content to you. You don't even fucking care about her safety. You're a total dipshit.

[Snow White]

Oh, my God.

[Jeff Lewis]

He says, this. Your dipshit goon audience now is gonna find that banner post, and everyone's gonna know where she sits at school all day long. This is just so dumb. I'm like, it's a cute pic.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Oh, my God.

[Jeff Lewis]

Seriously? You put her in harm's way, you're endangering her. Unbelievable. I said, I did not say where it is. She's so photogenic. I just found out today at 8:55am because that was. That's why I didn't tell him. Well, I wasn't gonna tell him anyway. He's like, emailing head of school. I'm like, it was clearly an accident. Please keep your cool. Great advice. You're an idiot. I'll handle it. Thanks. I said, you take yourself too seriously. Relax. It's interesting how you project this about me. This is about Monroe. It likely comes as a shock to you that there are actually a lot of people who hate you and think you're an offensive moron. So putting Monroe in danger by letting people know where she's sitting at school all day is actually a really horrible and dangerous idea. Not seeing it as that from your perspective isn't a shock, but a disappointment nonetheless. Since you're probably gonna read all of this on air, make sure you also tell everyone that I think you're a fraud and a thief. I said, this is getting.

[Snow White]

I'm actually uncomfortable right now. This is too.

[Jeff Lewis]

I said, okay, we'll do. And then he said, and don't worry, I'll Take care of the parenting part. Continue to go fuck around and make jokes. Lol. I'm like, thanks, dad, exclamation point. And then I got a middle finger emoji.

[Snow White]

Oh, Mike, I thought you guys were doing better.

[Jeff Lewis]

No, no, this.

[Crystal Minkoff]

This is better for them.

[Snow White]

Shit.

[Crystal Minkoff]

I think.

[Jeff Lewis]

Honestly, I think it is so funny. And I'll tell you why. The irony of all of this is that. And Monroe was even laughing about it too, is that he would not participate in. In summer school at. Just because it was my idea and I had to take him to court. I lost because I needed him to comply. Because what was happening with this shitty custody schedule where it was like two day, three day. Two day, three day. So I couldn't do anything with her unless he cooperated. But he never cooperates. So I had to. I said, I really think this summer program is beneficial to her. She can, you know, she can do dance, she can do art, and she was excited about taking all these classes. He said, no, I will not participate. So I had to take him to court. I lost. I think the irony of this is that the banner was promoting the summer camp.

[Joey Zauzick]

She's the face of summer camp.

[Crystal Minkoff]

How did the school mess up on that? When you guys are the only two people that, like, out of all the kids in the school, like, that's who they chose. But the one couple that says, we don't want our child on the propaganda, but it's. They chose her.

[Jeff Lewis]

I honestly.

[Crystal Minkoff]

That's crazy.

[Jeff Lewis]

I did it to appease him, but I did send an email. I said, please do not use any, you know, because I knew this was gonna happen. Please don't use any, you know, photography of my daughter for marketing purposes or promotional purposes. It was an accident.

[Snow White]

It was an accident because I, you know, my daughter went to that school up until this year, and there's paperwork that you sign saying, like, you can opt out of marketing stuff. And so we clearly. I know that Jeff did as well, so I think this was a complete oversight. But holy shit, you guys, that is like. I mean, that's how Rob and I text each other, but, I mean.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah.

[Snow White]

Oh, that's.

[Jeff Lewis]

That's tame.

[Snow White]

Jesus.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Yeah, that's tame.

[Snow White]

Yeah. You have to be really tough to deal with that all the time.

[Jeff Lewis]

I just. I think my favorite part of the whole text was that he called my audience dipshit goons.

[Snow White]

I mean, shout out.

[Crystal Minkoff]

No more chumps. It's now goons, baby.

[Snow White]

It's not easy to say dipshit goons.

[Jeff Lewis]

How was Italy?

[Crystal Minkoff]

Wonderful. It was Incredible.

[Joey Zauzick]

Ciao.

[Crystal Minkoff]

I can't really move my face right now because I got a chemical peel, so it's hard to make expressions, I'm realizing as I'm on the radio right now. But Italy was great.

[Jeff Lewis]

Well, there's no video anymore, so you don't. You don't have to worry about it.

[Crystal Minkoff]

I can relax.

[Snow White]

What's the video thing?

[Joey Zauzick]

They used to film the show and post it on the app in its entirety. Two hours straight. They stopped doing that.

[Snow White]

Okay.

[Jeff Lewis]

They took it away because of budget cuts.

[Snow White]

All right, okay.

[Crystal Minkoff]

But Italy was great. It was with, like, you know, the Bravo crew. All the summer house. All the summer house people.

[Jeff Lewis]

Let me back up for a second because on. On February 17th, you were here and you were in love and you had just the night before discussed an exclusivity situation.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Yes.

[Jeff Lewis]

Where are we at with that today?

[Crystal Minkoff]

We're good. He came over, like, he came over last night and we hung out.

[Jeff Lewis]

Exclusive.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Um, I'm not dating anyone else. Yeah, I'm not dating anyone else at the moment, but I think we're both. We haven't had that conversation yet.

[Joey Zauzick]

Why not?

[Crystal Minkoff]

But I'm having.

[Jeff Lewis]

I felt like you were having that conversation on the night of the 16th. And I remember while we were drunk.

[Crystal Minkoff]

And he was playing guitar, so we were having a lot of conversations that didn't go into anything serious. But I think that, like, I don't know. I don't want to put pressure on it. We're just taking it slow. Oh, is this okay?

[Jeff Lewis]

Is this when he sang the Goo Goo Dolls?

[Crystal Minkoff]

Yeah, and I'll give up forever. Yes.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yes.

[Snow White]

Oh, my God.

[Jeff Lewis]

He's saying, I know, Crystal.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Don't give me that look.

[Jeff Lewis]

I'm sorry.

[Snow White]

I'm just kind of mortified. It is. It is.

[Jeff Lewis]

Did he have a shirt on when he. When he played the guitar? I don't think so.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Oh, God. He has a six pack, though.

[Jeff Lewis]

So he had his shirt off. He's playing the guitar and he's singing. Singing to you.

[Crystal Minkoff]

He didn't get. We were both kind of, like, in camaraderie, like, when you say it like this. We were just kind of singing for a second. Then he was like, I don't. I don't feel like playing the guitar.

[Snow White]

I was like, okay, I love your.

[Jeff Lewis]

Look at me.

[Snow White]

Like, you're really trying to, like, answer because you can tell I'm judging you.

[Crystal Minkoff]

I know, because I'm judging you. Rachel's really judging me.

[Joey Zauzick]

He was playing and singing, and then Joey started to sing, and then he said, you Know what? I don't really feel like playing the guitar.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Exactly what happened. That's exactly what happened. But things are good. He came over last night. We watched.

[Jeff Lewis]

I just remember. And I think we could probably relisten to the show, but I think you were kind of. I felt like in love again on the 17th of February. But then you went to Italy, so now it's no longer an exclusive situation.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Well, I didn't hook up with anyone in Italy.

[Jeff Lewis]

No one.

[Crystal Minkoff]

I swear on my life.

[Jeff Lewis]

What about on the plane on the way there?

[Crystal Minkoff]

I want. Nope.

[Jeff Lewis]

What about on the plane on the way home?

[Crystal Minkoff]

Nope.

[Jeff Lewis]

What about in the airport?

[Crystal Minkoff]

No, I'm just kidding. No, no. Literally no one. I mean, I was with all. I was with five straight guys in Italy. Guys. It was like my first all straight trip in my life. But it was like I fit in. But I fit in perfect with the summer house boys.

[Jeff Lewis]

Shaneyon did everyone return their talent agreement for Chump Con?

[Joey Zauzick]

I got Joey's today. I'm waiting on Jamie Kennedy, but everyone else.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay, great.

[Crystal Minkoff]

My lawyer had to tweak a few things.

[Jeff Lewis]

Did. Did Marlo make any changes?

[Joey Zauzick]

Yeah, there was. Yeah, there was one that was accepted out of.

[Crystal Minkoff]

It was basically just because my team's commissioning off of it now because it's like a certain number, so it's. Yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh, your team's commissioning. So they're involved now.

[Crystal Minkoff]

They're involved now. I know. I'm gonna start getting. You're gonna start getting on emails. Jamie said, looks scary.

[Joey Zauzick]

Shout out Haley.

[Crystal Minkoff]

So shout out Haley. His team, my best.

[Snow White]

Yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

Redlined a very simple talent agreement.

[Snow White]

Okay.

[Jeff Lewis]

And so Marlo called me and she's like, what do you think?

[Crystal Minkoff]

I'm like, no, I knew it came from you.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah, but we did change.

[Crystal Minkoff]

We did change.

[Jeff Lewis]

Don't make any changes. Nothing on dollar having you negotiate with fucking Joey Zauziks.

[Snow White]

That's so funny. I took notes from my attorney and then I just didn't bother sending them. Like, what's the point? It's such a simple. I don't care.

[Crystal Minkoff]

That's true.

[Snow White]

You're crazy. You're very fancy.

[Joey Zauzick]

Well.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Well, I have to be. I'm with uta. They don't fuck around.

[Snow White]

I'm with you.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Oh, you are. Oh, wait. Oops. Oh, my God. Look at us.

[Jeff Lewis]

So if you want to book either a dinner, drinks, lunch, anything, because you both are going to be there and you both are on fan social, right?

[Snow White]

Yeah, of course I want to do that.

[Jeff Lewis]

Go to fans social. Co we' already booked dinner and drinks. And drinks. So we booked dinner on Thursday. We've booked drinks on Sunday, so we still have times and days available on fan social.

[Joey Zauzick]

When you go on, there's a banner at the top specifically for Chump Con, so click on that and you can see who's available and the times and the whole thing.

[Jeff Lewis]

Question. Are you both willing to fly in a day early and do a fan social event on Thursday?

[Snow White]

Yeah.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Okay, 100%.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay, good.

[Crystal Minkoff]

We'll do one together. Me and Krystal will do a duo martinis.

[Snow White]

And I'll just judge you the whole time.

[Crystal Minkoff]

She could literally just judge me the whole time.

[Jeff Lewis]

Joey hasn't been booking a lot on fan social because of the floodlighting and the trauma dumping.

[Crystal Minkoff]

We think I used to book all the time before.

[Jeff Lewis]

I. I know, but we did.

[Snow White]

I don't want that.

[Jeff Lewis]

We did something.

[Snow White]

Maybe we should do something sad.

[Crystal Minkoff]

We're not gonna. Crystal, I'm not gonna trauma dump on you.

[Snow White]

Please don't.

[Jeff Lewis]

No, he's gonna trauma dump on the people.

[Crystal Minkoff]

But I feel like I would like your opinion, because I feel like you keep it 100 with me and, like, just kind of tell me to shut up when I need to shut up. That's what I need in my life.

[Joey Zauzick]

Yes, we all need it.

[Snow White]

Clearly. I would. Because you need it.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Thank you. I do.

[Jeff Lewis]

Here's the problem. He doesn't listen.

[Crystal Minkoff]

I absolutely do.

[Snow White]

I find that excruciatingly annoying. Giving my advice, and I don't take it. I'm. I check out. I'm done.

[Crystal Minkoff]

I would listen. I do listen.

[Snow White]

I've never done it. We've never done it yet. So let's try and figure it out. I'll do it once, and if you don't take my advice, you can go fuck yourself. Because I'm not going to do it anymore. But I'm going to trust that you will. That's very good advice.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Just give me one chance.

[Snow White]

Okay, I'll give you.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Thanks.

[Snow White]

Look at us.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Look at us. This is great. Pantsocial.com. we have great communication skills. We'll teach you a lot.

[Jeff Lewis]

Do we want to do Daisy from Puerto Rico? Line six.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Oh.

[Joey Zauzick]

Shout out. Puerto.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Puerto Rico.

[Jeff Lewis]

Hi, Daisy.

[Daisy]

Hola.

[Joey Zauzick]

Hola, mami. Como esta?

[Jeff Lewis]

Bien. What's your question?

[Daisy]

Daisy Sauce. I wanted to talk a little bit about MJ because as a listener, I listen every single day.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay.

[Daisy]

It's incredibly frustrating to listen to her talk about conflict with her. She becomes extremely defensive. And I found yesterday that when she's apologizing, she doesn't come from a place of understanding where you guys are coming from. She comes like it's just to get it over with.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yes. Okay. I can see why you would think.

[Daisy]

And yeah. And also, like, when there's conflict with other people that have happened in the past, she's quick to have an opinion. She's quick to. But when it's her, she like the way she shut down Reza yesterday, honestly was so disrespectful to Reza.

[Jeff Lewis]

Well, I think she felt like it was. I mean, again, I was just. I just witnessed it. It was a bystander, but it felt like it was going to go deep. And it was something. I think that she realized that this is probably should be a private conversation. And they have, you know, I don't know what is a 20 year plus friendship. So I think they were about to start spilling and then I think they both realized, oh, this is a conversation that should happen off air.

[Daisy]

Okay. I just. I just find it frustrating and I wish that she would be, like, more accountable. Like, for example, when we. Something's going on with Joey, we make him. We hold him to the fire.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yes, we do.

[Daisy]

And I feel like you do do that to MJ often, but she's. Something is not clicking. And I understand she has a lot going in her life, but as a listener, it's like, frustrating because we're going around in circles and we're getting nowhere. Like, the same thing keeps happening with her.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay. So I know this is going to be. Sound strange coming from me, but I am empathetic and sympathetic to MJ because I'm very aware of her struggles in her personal life, and I do believe it is now affecting her professional life. And I'm really trying to be empathetic to that situation.

[Daisy]

I understand that. That makes sense.

[Jeff Lewis]

So again, I'm privy to details that other people are not. And I think if you were, you probably would agree with me. But thank you for calling, Daisy. I appreciate it.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Thank you.

[Daisy]

Bye, guys.

[Jeff Lewis]

And thank you for listening every day. All right, Love you.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Love you, Daisy.

[Joey Zauzick]

Love you, girl.

[Snow White]

That was heavy.

[Crystal Minkoff]

That was. Yeah, that was.

[Jeff Lewis]

Thank you for defending me to Chanel.

[Snow White]

Oh, yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

Because there was a miscommunication. We had drinks with Taline.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Yes.

[Jeff Lewis]

And you weren't specific. You weren't specific. But Chanel felt she wasn't invited. Taline felt Chanel wasn't invited. And then, you know, 45 minutes into the drinks, I realized, like, where's Chanel? And then. But Chanel was. Her feelings were very hurt and she reached out to you?

[Snow White]

Yes. Yes. Chanel is very sensitive. And the closer we get, I realize I have to, you know, she kind of goes zero to a million. And I help to temper her and remind her of things and explain things to her. But once you do, she really accepts it. She really gets it. But her emotions lead first and she felt bad and she was like, why didn't he. You know, I don't get it. I was like, no, he would never not invite you. That makes no sense.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Yeah.

[Snow White]

And no, I think we had a great time last night. It was really nice. But I'll always defend you if you're defendable, right?

[Jeff Lewis]

Yes.

[Snow White]

And if you're not, don't. I won't.

[Jeff Lewis]

It looks like Cynthia Bailey got a chump con booking on Fans Social.

[Crystal Minkoff]

She did what?

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah, Cynthia.

[Snow White]

She was on the phone with me on the way.

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh, my God. She got a booking. But Joey, book me on fan social. Joey, there's no bookings.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Maybe I need to promote it more. I actually have a booking next Saturday.

[Jeff Lewis]

Babe, you got a Trump Con booking.

[Crystal Minkoff]

No, next Saturday. Next Saturday.

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh, for. Fan social. Booking is what I meant.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Yes.

[Jeff Lewis]

Great.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Social. Like a lunch at La Scala. They always want to go to La Scala with me. It's the second one I've done there.

[Jeff Lewis]

That's a good, great place. I think we put that on our list, didn't we?

[Snow White]

There's nothing wrong with La Scala.

[Jeff Lewis]

No, it's. It's a great.

[Crystal Minkoff]

I love La Salle. The chopped salad, baby. Actually, the chicken parm is really good, too.

[Snow White]

No, I get the chopped salad. Pepperoncini.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Me too. That's exactly what I do.

[Snow White]

Oh, my God.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Some people don't like the pepperoncini. It's my favorite part about the best. The best.

[Jeff Lewis]

If you are the person that has booked Joey Zauzig for Fan Social, bring Kleenex.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Why?

[Jeff Lewis]

For yourself and for Joey.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Why?

[Jeff Lewis]

Because of all the crying.

[Crystal Minkoff]

I'm not going to be crying. I have a great. Things are really great right now.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay.

[Joey Zauzick]

I love that.

[Snow White]

Do you cry a lot?

[Crystal Minkoff]

I literally never cry on this show, actually. Okay. One time I cried on the show, determined. That was a lot. I was getting a divorce. Like, no, things are great right now. There's no negativity. And. Well, except for I got money stolen from PayPal yesterday from me. So private bank is figuring it out for me, which is fucking crazy. But you got robbed.

[Jeff Lewis]

You got robbed.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Kind of. But I always think when bad shit happens to in your life, it just means something really big is coming. So when it's in the form of money. It means that there's, like, a lump sum coming in. Can you elaborate what happened?

[Snow White]

It's so positive, though, chatting about these.

[Crystal Minkoff]

So basically, I went on my PayPal and it said, like, account locked. And I had got a new phone, so I just thought that I had to do a new password. So I went in, and basically it was like, pa ux, like crypto. And I'm like, what is this? I don't have my crypto stuff on here. And basically, this person has been taking, like, $4,000 from me a day for, like, two weeks, like, really, really bad. And, like, it's like $7 increments. And then.

[Jeff Lewis]

Wait a minute, 4,000? Cause let me just do the math here. The chump math. Because you said that there was 8,800 stolen, but someone took 4,000 a day for two weeks.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Well, you guys look at math. It's not gonna be.

[Jeff Lewis]

That's not mathing.

[Snow White]

That's two days.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah, that's not mathing for me.

[Snow White]

Two days or two weeks?

[Crystal Minkoff]

Okay, so there was, like, two days, and then there was a few days that were literally like, $7, $7, $7.

[Snow White]

Okay.

[Crystal Minkoff]

And then.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay. Cause 4,000 a day times 14 is 56,000.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Let me just ask.

[Jeff Lewis]

You tell me 8,800.

[Snow White]

I think there was 4,000. St. And let me just ask the.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Pinhead goons for a second. We all know that I'm not.

[Jeff Lewis]

Dipshit goons get it, right?

[Crystal Minkoff]

Like, I'm not the best at math. Maybe it was in 4,000. But I didn't add up everything. So I had to report it to PayPal. I had to call, like, email the girls at my bank. Like, it was just a whole thing. So now I have to get on the phone with them. But it freaked me out because I'm like, that's never happened to me before. I've never had fraud or anything. So I'm like, how did this person get into my PayPal? Have you. This happened to you?

[Snow White]

Yeah, all the time. Did you get your credit card stolen all the time?

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah.

[Snow White]

Yeah. My business manager's like, oh, we're submitting a new credit card. We just have fraud every month.

[Jeff Lewis]

Every day. I grab it quick.

[Crystal Minkoff]

See, I don't.

[Jeff Lewis]

And that's every day.

[Snow White]

I don't do any of that.

[Jeff Lewis]

That shocks me. Because you're such a smart businesswoman.

[Snow White]

You know why? Because I have such fear of not having money, so I don't like looking at my accounts.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Oh, my God.

[Snow White]

I don't have enough money.

[Crystal Minkoff]

That Is my fear online right now?

[Joey Zauzick]

I just checked because we're talking. I have a hundred dollar charge.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Maybe it's coming from inside the house.

[Snow White]

It's very common.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Maybe it's a chicken.

[Joey Zauzick]

I got that coffee read.

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh, my God. They're stealing from us.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Well, you know, it's not far off.

[Jeff Lewis]

Did you ever give them your PayPal for any reason? Did you pay for a coffee read?

[Crystal Minkoff]

Probably.

[Snow White]

That makes sense.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Throughout my two years.

[Snow White]

They have those BDIs that would. They do.

[Crystal Minkoff]

You know, there's something about the beady eyes that you just know you're gonna get fraud from.

[Snow White]

They look deep into your eyes and you're like, oh, they're stealing your money.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Yeah. Like, they're not actually reading, like your brain or your future. They're actually. They're reading your credit card numbers and your PayPal accounts.

[Jeff Lewis]

I bet they're gonna. It's gonna be a big score of chump con between people's purses, their jewelry. I bet. I bet hotel rooms will get broken into.

[Snow White]

What? Yeah, no, you have to have extra security.

[Crystal Minkoff]

The thing that's funny though is I have the same fear. That's why I don't check my accounts. Cause I'm scared about not having any money. So then yesterday I was like, fuck, I have to go into my account totally expecting it to all be drained. And it didn't really make a dent. So I was like, okay, well, then I guess, how rich are you? I just.

[Snow White]

It's very sexy. No, I mean, I love money. I just hate not having money.

[Crystal Minkoff]

I hate not having money, too. So it actually made me feel better looking at my account. Because you know how you look at your account sometimes and you're like, hell yeah.

[Snow White]

Like, this is great.

[Crystal Minkoff]

And then sometimes you're like, oh, fuck. And yesterday was like, okay, well, kind of. Fuck. But then I'm kind of like, great, this is going to get back to me. I hope I get the money back. I will, right?

[Snow White]

You will. Do you ever look at your account? Like, hell yeah. I never do. Oh, my God, I feel broke every day of my life.

[Crystal Minkoff]

I was talking to my dad about this. I guess I do too, but sometimes I like, feel like, okay, good. I'm. I'm better than I thought I was.

[Snow White]

That's great. No, I mean, that's my dream.

[Jeff Lewis]

I don't. I mean, the way that I look, it's like strategizing, right? So I look at what's. What's in, and then I think, okay, this is coming in. This is coming in. I can spend this on this. I can do this here, and then next month I'll do this. You know, I just. I strategize every day.

[Snow White]

I just. Because I know there's such giant chunks of money going out, you know, like.

[Crystal Minkoff]

That'S what scares me.

[Snow White]

Every day is like, oh, it's like a $30,000 thing. It's so much money. And I'm like, what? Like, how am I gonna get that in?

[Crystal Minkoff]

I feel like people listening right now are like, crystal, you're crazy. So I feel like I have to say, is it that you have a fair amount of money coming in, but a fair amount going out? And so that's where I just.

[Snow White]

I don't know how much is in. I feel I've just always been like that. Like, I grew up from, like, parents who. Like, immigrant parents who had nothing. So I just live like that. Like, I live like I have nothing, and I get really worried about it. It's just my thing.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah.

[Snow White]

I have to go to therapy about it, but it's very scary. I know. It's very annoying to people.

[Jeff Lewis]

I try to get you to spend money.

[Snow White]

I know. You really tried last night.

[Jeff Lewis]

I really tried.

[Snow White]

You want me to spend, like, hundreds of thousands of dollars?

[Jeff Lewis]

This is what I told her. She looked so beautiful last night. Like, classically, like, just naturally beautiful. And she was very well put together. And she had this gorgeous bag, but she has no jewelry on. And I said, you really need to invest in some really, like, a really great diamond, like, tennis necklace and, like, a statement piece that she can just wear all the time, and some big diamond earrings.

[Crystal Minkoff]

In this day and age when everyone's getting sh.

[Jeff Lewis]

But no one knows what's real and what's fake or what's. You know.

[Crystal Minkoff]

That's true.

[Snow White]

He wants me to level up, but that's part of my thing. It's like, you know, I play coach. I've, like, I'm always like, you know, not spending.

[Jeff Lewis]

But I know you're the kind of person where you would buy just a couple of pieces. You wear them all the time.

[Snow White]

I will.

[Jeff Lewis]

There's a lot of women that do that. Yes.

[Snow White]

I believe in investment pieces for sure. I just. Yeah. LA is a little scary right now. I wore my ring today for you.

[Jeff Lewis]

Thank you. I love that ring.

[Snow White]

I know, but. Yeah, I know. I just. It's my own personal thing. I've been like this my whole life, and I will never change. I will always be scared.

[Crystal Minkoff]

You flying coach, like, all the time?

[Snow White]

Almost.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Wow.

[Snow White]

Oh. I've gotten Cynthia to fly Coach now. And Chanel's gonna fly coach next time she's here.

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh really?

[Snow White]

Yeah, she flew her glam, but they.

[Jeff Lewis]

Have different levels now. So there's like economy, economy plus premium, all that. Those are nice. Those are nice.

[Snow White]

Yeah, I'll do premium. I, I'm not like a hundred percent coach, but like, I just don't. I'm like we're all in the same metal tube. Like we're all getting the same place.

[Jeff Lewis]

It's a little different experience, but I don't need the. I mean, I'm happy with the business. I don't, I won't. I'm not going to spend a ridiculous amount of money on when business is great.

[Crystal Minkoff]

No, I don't get the first thing, I guess. Unless you're like a celebrity and don't want to like fly. Like who cares?

[Snow White]

I don't care.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Like Gage, as long as I'm.

[Snow White]

Does he fly first?

[Crystal Minkoff]

He flies first, I'm sure.

[Snow White]

Holy.

[Crystal Minkoff]

No.

[Joey Zauzick]

Yeah, he used to do those airport postings. He hasn't done that in a while. The AMA's at the airport.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Oh, that was my thing.

[Snow White]

I travel way too much to just be like, you know, casually buying first class. I've travel. I'm on a plane every week.

[Jeff Lewis]

What do you think?

[Crystal Minkoff]

That's expensive.

[Jeff Lewis]

What do you think about people that post that they're so busy, it's so.

[Snow White]

Annoying because they're not as busy as me.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Yeah, that's so dumb.

[Snow White]

That's just attention seeking.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Really?

[Jeff Lewis]

You think it is?

[Snow White]

Yes. I hate cringy posts of any kind. I.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Well then I guess you don't. I guess you're not going to follow me back.

[Snow White]

Well, the Google dolls thing is already a major red flag.

[Jeff Lewis]

Joey's post.

[Snow White]

Super Joey.

[Jeff Lewis]

This was an ama.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Before you do this. This is an ama. Somebody asked me this, this question.

[Snow White]

But you answered it publicly.

[Jeff Lewis]

How do you keep going? How do you keep going? I'm exhausted watching your stories. You're so busy. To be honest, since Italy it's been pretty non stop insane. I never readjusted to the time difference either. And I'm happy even tonight to have some time to relax and regenerate. Like my body. But I also just feel like I'm made for this. And I love being busy, but he's just a tad tired.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Okay, here we go.

[Snow White]

Can you always bring me off Joey because he's so much easier to make fun of. I'm always getting dragged, but I'm like, what is that?

[Crystal Minkoff]

And I take it because you know what? I Want to answer as much as I can. And I was fucking tired. I was dilapidated at that point. How do you do it? But it is because I do have. But I do get it. Because when you look at my stories and stuff, it does look like I'm so busy. I'm not that busy. But I have events every night. Yes.

[Jeff Lewis]

Seriously. All those dinners and pictures, it was go, go, go. And the videos of you eating in the car. You are so busy.

[Crystal Minkoff]

It's exhausting.

[Snow White]

I'm glad you addressed it.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Yeah.

[Snow White]

You need to let everybody know.

[Jeff Lewis]

Close your eyes and just take a rest while we take a break.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Let me take accountability. That was a cringe post. And sometimes I post things and I'll look back at it and be like, that was really cringe. Hearing it back. I was like literally melting into my chair. It's cringe. And that's okay. Some of my sisters are.

[Snow White]

I really like you. You're very. I like you.

[Jeff Lewis]

He's likable. I know.

[Snow White]

He is one accountability. I like that you recognized it. And I feel like you apologized to.

[Jeff Lewis]

But he'll do it again tomorrow.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Sometimes in climbing, sometimes in my world, to become successful, you have to climb Cringe Mountain. And if you're not climbing Cringe Mountain, you're probably not getting anywhere. So I don't really care.

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[Crystal Minkoff]

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[Snow White]

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[Crystal Minkoff]

Exquisite.

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[Crystal Minkoff]

I think that's a wonderful idea.

[Disney Promo Voice]

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[Snow White]

I was thinking the same thing.

[Disney Promo Voice]

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[Snow White]

Magic mirror on the wall. Who's the fairest one of all?

[Crystal Minkoff]

Snow White.

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[Crystal Minkoff]

Oh, my God.

[Jeff Lewis]

So I'm gonna ask. I'm gonna ask sixth grade general knowledge questions because of that, right? Whoever answers correctly gets the point. The person with the most points at the end of the game wins. Joey, I'm gonna start with you.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Okay?

[Jeff Lewis]

What is the largest ocean?

[Crystal Minkoff]

The Atlantic.

[Jeff Lewis]

Crystal.

[Snow White]

Pacific.

[Jeff Lewis]

You are correct. Crystal. The Pacific. That was a good guess. That was a good guess. That was a good guess, yeah. What are the three states of matter, Joey?

[Crystal Minkoff]

Solid, liquid and gas.

[Jeff Lewis]

Great.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Yeah.

[Snow White]

That was good job. I'm proud of you.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Thank you, babe. I'm really happy about it.

[Jeff Lewis]

Joey, what is the longest river in the world?

[Crystal Minkoff]

The Nile, bitch.

[Snow White]

Oh, my God.

[Crystal Minkoff]

The Nile is a river in Egypt. Who? Husband is gay.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay, guys, who was the first president of the United States?

[Crystal Minkoff]

George Washington.

[Snow White]

You're kind of like Mental.

[Jeff Lewis]

You're really smart.

[Crystal Minkoff]

You really underestimated me with the spelling bees.

[Jeff Lewis]

I know.

[Crystal Minkoff]

This is a piece of cake.

[Jeff Lewis]

Name the process of how plants make their food.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Photosynthesis.

[Jeff Lewis]

Holy shit. Joey, how many continents are there?

[Crystal Minkoff]

Four continents.

[Snow White]

Seven.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Seven continents.

[Snow White]

Four.

[Jeff Lewis]

All right. Close. You were close.

[Snow White]

I was close.

[Crystal Minkoff]

I was thinking, like, asia, Alaska, the U.S. those three.

[Snow White]

Everyone knows the U.S. alaska.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Don't give me that judgmental look one more time.

[Snow White]

I'm a Chinese mother.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Okay?

[Joey Zauzick]

He met us.

[Crystal Minkoff]

I need to come over and play Sudoku or some shit like.

[Joey Zauzick]

Or whatever to learn the continent.

[Crystal Minkoff]

What's that, like the Tudor Mahjong that a lot of Asian kids do. Tudor.

[Snow White]

Yeah, I know.

[Crystal Minkoff]

All my friends used to do that.

[Snow White]

Yeah, the Kumon.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Kumon.

[Snow White]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

Joey, what is the largest mammal?

[Joey Zauzick]

The spice.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Oh, the largest mammal is a platypus, bitch. No, it's a rhino.

[Snow White]

Blue whale.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Blue whale.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay, Blue whale.

[Crystal Minkoff]

How did you know that? There's so many mammals out there.

[Snow White]

It's like, how did I know all of.

[Crystal Minkoff]

I know.

[Snow White]

I knew it was not the platypus.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Well, platypus is huge.

[Jeff Lewis]

I was thinking platypus.

[Joey Zauzick]

Aren't those very small?

[Snow White]

Yeah, like Phineas and Ferb. He's little.

[Joey Zauzick]

He's like a squishmallow.

[Crystal Minkoff]

That's a cartoon. Shane, look at. Look. Google it.

[Jeff Lewis]

What is the large. What is the largest man made structure in the world?

[Crystal Minkoff]

The Taj Mahal.

[Snow White]

Great Wall of China.

[Joey Zauzick]

Yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

Correct.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Wait, that's what I meant.

[Jeff Lewis]

Joey, who painted the famous Mona Lisa?

[Crystal Minkoff]

Leonardo da Vinci.

[Jeff Lewis]

Great. Okay, Joey, what is.

[Snow White]

I'm so proud of you.

[Jeff Lewis]

Joey, what is the square root of 64?

[Crystal Minkoff]

Fuck 64. This is so stupid. How do I not know this? The square root of 64 is 4.

[Snow White]

No, it's 8.

[Crystal Minkoff]

8.

[Snow White]

8 times 8 is 64.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Okay, can I just say, though, I have a really hard time with math. Like, that's my one thing. That's my one thing. Yeah, I never applied myself.

[Jeff Lewis]

No, I knew that when you were explaining the PayPal thing.

[Crystal Minkoff]

So please, dipshit goons, don't come for me for not knowing the square root of 64. It's eight.

[Jeff Lewis]

Joey, what do you call a baby kangaroo?

[Crystal Minkoff]

A Joey.

[Jeff Lewis]

Cute. What is the capital of China?

[Crystal Minkoff]

Please don't do this to me. The capital of China is.

[Jeff Lewis]

I don't know if I would have got that.

[Snow White]

Where is the Great Wall of China? What City Hong. Or.

[Crystal Minkoff]

No, no, no.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay, the Olympics.

[Snow White]

Beijing.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Oh, Beijing. Sorry, why didn't someone say the Olympics? Like. Or something like that to help me.

[Jeff Lewis]

Thanks, Joey. What is the seventh planet from the sun?

[Crystal Minkoff]

Oh, I should know this. The seventh planet from the sun is Saturn or something.

[Snow White]

Uranus.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Uranus.

[Joey Zauzick]

How did you know that?

[Crystal Minkoff]

I did say it before. She said it, though, a little bit.

[Jeff Lewis]

You did not say it a little bit. Joey, who was the first person to walk on the moon?

[Crystal Minkoff]

Arnold Armstrong. Bitch. Neil Armstrong. Neil Arm.

[Jeff Lewis]

Getting close.

[Crystal Minkoff]

I don't know.

[Snow White]

Armstrong, bitch.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Listen, it's been a rough couple days. Give me a break.

[Snow White]

He's busy.

[Jeff Lewis]

No, I'm gonna give him that point.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Give him that point.

[Snow White]

Yeah, I give it that.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Yeah. Arnold.

[Snow White]

Arnold.

[Jeff Lewis]

I don't think Crystal's missed a single.

[Crystal Minkoff]

No, I got a lot of them in the beginning.

[Jeff Lewis]

You got a lot.

[Snow White]

Don't forget, I also have a sixth grader. So these are the constant questions that I have. That's right.

[Jeff Lewis]

So.

[Crystal Minkoff]

That's right. Beijing.

[Jeff Lewis]

If you suffer from arachnophobia, you're afraid of what?

[Crystal Minkoff]

Oh, I should know that. Arachnophobia.

[Snow White]

You suffer from a really scary movie. Arachnids. Does that help?

[Crystal Minkoff]

No. Really?

[Snow White]

Spiders. Spiders.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Oh, spiders.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah. All right, last question, Joey.

[Crystal Minkoff]

I didn't know that, so. Oh, like arachnophobia.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Okay. Arachnophobia.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah, I knew that because of the movie.

[Crystal Minkoff]

You're right.

[Jeff Lewis]

I wouldn't have known that otherwise. What is the freezing point of water in Fahrenheit?

[Crystal Minkoff]

I don't remember this, like, 16. Zero. Fahrenheit. 34 Fahrenheit.

[Jeff Lewis]

I have 32. Here. Here.

[Snow White]

Oh, 30.

[Crystal Minkoff]

Oh, yes. Crystal.

[Snow White]

Sorry.

[Jeff Lewis]

I. I think Crystal might have won.

[Joey Zauzick]

Do you think Joey got seven? But Crystal knew them all.

[Jeff Lewis]

Crystal only missed one out of 16.

[Crystal Minkoff]

We don't really know who wanted to draw.

[Snow White]

We'll take it as a draw.

[Crystal Minkoff]

We'll take it as a draw.

[Snow White]

That's fine.

[Jeff Lewis]

Thanks for listening. If you want more of this, listen to Jeff Lewis Live every weekday on SiriusXM as well as the Jeff Lewis Channel exclusively on the SiriusXM app.

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