Doug Budin & Ryan Bailey: Back from ChumpCon

Summary

Jeff Lewis Has Issues: Episode Summary Episode: Doug Budin & Ryan Bailey: Back from ChumpCon
Release Date: April 25, 2025
Host/Author: SiriusXM's Jeff Lewis
Guests: Doug Budin, Ryan Bailey, Liz, Michael, Crystal

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Introduction

In this episode of Jeff Lewis Has Issues, Jeff Lewis, alongside guests Doug Budin and Ryan Bailey, delves into their recent experiences at ChumpCon—a vibrant event filled with excitement, challenges, and memorable moments. The trio provides an unfiltered recount of the weekend, highlighting both the highs and the lows they encountered.

ChumpCon Recap and Initial Impressions

The conversation kicks off with Doug Budin expressing his initial skepticism about ChumpCon.

Doug Budin [02:35]: "I had low expectations walking in."

However, Ryan Bailey counters by suggesting that perhaps the low expectations were a shared sentiment.

Ryan Bailey [01:51]: "Do you think that's what it is? Do you think we all have such low expectations?"

Despite Doug's apprehensions, the event surpassed their expectations, thanks in part to the exceptional coordination by Liz, her brother John, and the rest of the team.

Doug Budin [02:58]: "A lot of it had to do with Liz. Liz and her brother John and then Doug. You were great. Michael. Ryan, Jameson. It really went well."

Event Highlights and Personal Anecdotes

Liz shares her observations about the event beating fears of it resembling a disastrous "Fyre Fest."

Liz [02:24]: "I had seen so many comments about it being like, oh, this is fyre fest. No, I've been like, this thing was the best."

The group reminisces about the various activities, including the vibrant atmosphere comparable to Coachella.

Michael [02:32]: "It was Coachella, bitch."

They discuss logistical aspects such as room assignments, highlighting interactions with Sarah Colonna and the smooth operations at the Conrad hotel.

Challenges Faced During the Event

Despite the overall success, the guests recount several challenges:

1. Room Assignments and Miscommunications:

   Ryan Bailey discusses his disappointment with the initial room assignment and the humorous yet tense interactions with Sarah Colonna.

   Ryan Bailey [03:20]: "She gave me one of her chocolate bars. I thought you would enjoy this more than me. I hate that woman so much."

2. After-Party Anxiety:

   Ryan opens up about experiencing anxiety at the after-party, feeling cornered and uncomfortable, which led to moments of regret.

   Ryan Bailey [06:15]: "I got a little anxiety at that after party. I felt very closed in and I just had to, like, get out."

3. Technical Glitches and Performance Issues:

   The group recalls issues with performances, including Patrick and Paul's rendition of "It's Raining Men," which, while entertaining, became a point of discomfort due to its intensity.

   Doug Budin [08:34]: "It was carrying, it was chumpioki."

Interactions with Guests and Notable Personalities

The episode highlights interactions with high-profile attendees like Saweetie, whose presence stirred both excitement and logistical challenges.

Doug Budin [16:24]: "Saweetie was late to the pool party. She was supposed to go on a lot earlier than she did."

Liz shares anecdotes about Saweetie's behavior, including security issues and her inability to leave the green room.

Liz [17:09]: "She wouldn't leave the green room."

Social Media and Event Promotion Missteps

A humorous segment unfolds as the team discusses misunderstandings arising from social media posts, leading to confusion about who was hosting the event.

Doug Budin [19:06]: "From Sarah."

Keyan [19:18]: "Yeah. You mean after. I thought you meant during the show."

Personal Struggles and Recovery Reflections

Guests candidly discuss personal battles, including Doug's struggle with sobriety and the pressures of maintaining it during such high-energy events.

Doug Budin [14:37]: "Was that true?"

Ryan Bailey [14:42]: "Because somebody recorded you saying that."

Humorous and Light-hearted Moments

Amidst the chaos, the group shares light-hearted moments, such as Doug's mishap with his Bloody Mary order and Ryan's humorous take on arms placement during photos.

Doug Budin [15:20]: "It was $75."

Ryan Bailey [23:25]: "Unfortunately, the first 30 times I've done this, I end up putting my hand either down somebody's pants or on their ass."

Closing Reflections

As the episode wraps up, the guests reflect on the overall experience, acknowledging the camaraderie and the unforgettable memories made despite the challenges faced.

Doug Budin [37:40]: "We had this kind of meeting right before we go out on the show, on the stage..."

Ryan Bailey [38:07]: "And Lakendra's mother-in-law. In nine months, she's gonna be a grandma."

Conclusion

This episode of Jeff Lewis Has Issues offers an unvarnished look into the highs and lows of organizing and attending ChumpCon. With candid discussions, humorous anecdotes, and heartfelt reflections, Jeff and his guests provide listeners with an engaging narrative of their adventures, underscored by their trademark no-filter honesty.

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Notable Quotes:

• Doug Budin [02:35]: "I had low expectations walking in."
• Liz [02:24]: "This thing was the best."
• Ryan Bailey [06:15]: "I got a little anxiety at that after party."
• Doug Budin [08:34]: "It was carrying, it was chumpioki."
• Doug Budin [14:37]: "Was that true?"
• Ryan Bailey [23:25]: "Unfortunately, the first 30 times I've done this, I end up putting my hand either down somebody's pants or on their ass."

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This comprehensive summary encapsulates the essence of the episode, providing insights into the hosts' experiences, challenges, and the dynamic interactions that made ChumpCon a memorable event.

Transcript

[Jeff Lewis]

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[Doug Budin]

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[Jeff Lewis]

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[Ryan]

When you're Jeff Lewis, the drama never stops.

[Doug Budin]

I don't need therapy. I don't need a prayer service. I need the fucking facts.

[Jeff Lewis]

Get to the point. She shut me down.

[Ryan]

I know.

[Doug Budin]

She's like, I don't want this toxic man near me.

[Michael]

See, you're a nice person.

[Jeff Lewis]

Don't tell anyone.

[Michael]

Well, nobody thinks it, so it doesn't matter.

[Crystal]

Jeff Lewis has issues.

[Doug Budin]

Hey, welcome to Jeff Lewis has Issues.

[Jeff Lewis]

In today's episode, Doug Button and Ryan.

[Doug Budin]

Bailey joined the show.

[Jeff Lewis]

We're hurting from chump con and recap all the drinking and debauchery.

[Doug Budin]

Ryan has lost his voice.

[Liz]

What's going on, everybody?

[Doug Budin]

Your voice is okay, but it's a bit strained.

[Ryan]

Yeah, it's strained, but it's. I think it's good. I think this is sexy voice.

[Liz]

Oh, so sexy.

[Doug Budin]

Okay, you think?

[Ryan]

Yeah, I do. I like it.

[Doug Budin]

All right, so we're all still recovering now from Chompcon, which turned into a fantastic event. And I had low expectations walking in.

[Ryan]

Do you think that's what it is? Do you think we all have such low expectations? The fact that we did.

[Doug Budin]

I just expected a lot to go wrong is what I did. So I expected a lot more problems. And I guess in hindsight, it's great that all the problems were in the beginning and the planning stages. Cause it really all went off without a hitch at all. And a lot of it had to do with. I mean, obviously Liz was incredible. Liz and her brother John and then Doug. You were great. Michael. Ryan, Jameson. I mean, it was. It really went well.

[Liz]

I had seen so many comments about it being like, oh, this is fyre fest. No I've been like, this thing was the best.

[Michael]

It was Coachella, bitch.

[Liz]

I mean, it was better than Coachella.

[Michael]

Yeah, they're still stuck in traffic.

[Liz]

Exactly.

[Doug Budin]

Now, did you ever. On Friday we spoke about this. You were very disappointed, Doug, that you were given a room at the Conrad versus the Crockfords. Did you ever. Were you able to switch rooms at all?

[Ryan]

No. Well, I was given the option to go to the check in desk Friday morning to switch rooms, but I decided against it. As I said, there was conviviality at the Conrad.

[Jeff Lewis]

You're so humble.

[Liz]

The 38th floor, low maintenance.

[Ryan]

You know, there were no problems with the rooms at the Conrad. It was just that I was all excited for the Crockfords, but the rooms were fine. And despite the fact that Sarah Colonna took every opportunity, she sure did. And it continues. Yesterday, she presented me with a chocolate bar that I guess the people at.

[Michael]

The Crockfords, it was so red.

[Doug Budin]

So she gave you one of her chocolate bars.

[Ryan]

Oh, here, I thought you would enjoy this more than me. I hate that woman so much.

[Liz]

Wow.

[Doug Budin]

I mean, I have to say that Crockfords is real nice with. With its own lobby and bar.

[Ryan]

It's an oasis away from the hustle and bustle.

[Doug Budin]

Yeah, it really is the hustle and bustle meet of floor 38. Did you ever get invited to Kelly Dodd's parties?

[Liz]

No, but I did get. I did get invited to Kelly Dodd's house. She's having me and Rebecca over to her and. Yeah, we've got a great bedroom for you guys. She. She wants us to come to Huntington.

[Michael]

Oh, sweet.

[Liz]

Yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

Really?

[Doug Budin]

Yeah. Okay. So did you think it was funny? I guess they were having a problem with the pickleball party house. There was some sort of plumbing issue on Saturday night.

[Michael]

Like, we're going. We're backstage and dealing with this, and.

[Doug Budin]

Rick was on the phone and Kelly's like, oh, my God, this is what's going wrong. And she goes, it's Murphy's Law. And you know, anyone that's familiar with Murphy's Law, it's like any. Anything that can go wrong will go wrong. But Kelly's like, it's Murphy's Law. When something bad happens, it does. I'm like, okay, that's close.

[Ryan]

That's close. Bless her heart.

[Michael]

Well put.

[Liz]

Bless.

[Doug Budin]

She got best dressed, in my opinion. I mean, she looked so beautiful.

[Michael]

She was hot all weekend.

[Ryan]

I thought everybody was dressed. I mean, personally, Crystal.

[Liz]

Monica. Monica looked beautiful.

[Ryan]

Monica in that long thing. But for the night of the show, crystal changed about 10 minutes before she shows up because Patrick and Pole were like, no, you look too simple.

[Crystal]

Crystal came in in an all black outfit, a black leather skirt, black top, and everyone was ugly leather pants. I did say, look at you and your ugly leather skirt. I said I had to say that.

[Doug Budin]

Well, Patrick and Paul bullied her when.

[Michael]

We'Re backstage, like, waiting, like, to go on. And she was like, I'm just gonna rent my room.

[Ryan]

And she came back and she goes, I have a sort of housewife dress. And it was this, you know, glittery. It was. It was gorgeous.

[Liz]

The first time Patrick and Paul ever bullied somebody. Wow. Well, amazing.

[Ryan]

Paul came to me, he said, you look great. I said, oh, God, I better go change. Made me nervous.

[Doug Budin]

Were they sincere?

[Ryan]

Yes.

[Doug Budin]

That was. I mean, that was. Now we were talking. You and I were talking about, like, the thorn, the rose and the thorn. I'm just curious, Doug. I was going to wait till we're live, obviously, to find out what was the rose and thorn for you for the weekend.

[Ryan]

I don't. I don't. Well, I don't think of roses because I really. I had the most truly spectacular experience. But there were a couple of thorns, personal thorns. The first, you would be unaware of this. Jeff, the Chump Con 2025 chat thread in our text group is a huge thorn because somebody decided 20 person text some. Well, let me tell you, how much time you ask any of us, one person split it into two different groups.

[Doug Budin]

Yeah.

[Michael]

Why?

[Ryan]

So you have to answer in one and then somebody answers in the other.

[Doug Budin]

Carrie was complaining about that.

[Ryan]

It is driving me and it continues to drive me crazy. So that was. That's my biggest thorn. I was rude to a handful of people at the after party, and that was a real bummer. I regret it. But why?

[Doug Budin]

What happened?

[Liz]

Doug apologized to me.

[Ryan]

I got. I got. I had a little. I got a little anxiety at that after party. I felt very closed in and I just had to, like, get out.

[Michael]

We were outside.

[Ryan]

No. I got sort of cornered right off that patio area, and there was no exit behind me, and I really. I just got very uncomfortable.

[Doug Budin]

Well, I understand that there was. So there was a. Like a VIP area and it was a deck, and it was kind of like cantilevered or something. And nobody was. There was no security?

[Liz]

No.

[Doug Budin]

So more and more chumps kept getting on this deck, and I could feel it bouncing, and I just like, when this falls, where do we land? Are we over? Are we over a pool? Like, did you not feel that thing bounce? No.

[Michael]

I didn't go up there, but.

[Doug Budin]

And then there was just more and more people, and no one was stopping them from getting on. I totally understand that. I was getting nervous, so I got.

[Ryan]

I was short with it. I said, I'm sorry, I gotta go. Like, I really got very physically so. But I felt bad about that. The other thing is you got emotional with me, which makes me uncomfortable. And that was all.

[Doug Budin]

Oh, yes. I got emo.

[Ryan]

Yeah. So that. That was a thorn. And the last thing is, I was so fucking hungry the entire weekend. I got one soup dumpling in yesterday. And then, you know, then you have, like, food in your teeth, so you don't. You can't chat. So I was hungry.

[Doug Budin]

I think one of my thorns, that mulberry pizza, I knew by Sunday, hey, Jeff, how's it going? I'm like, when they know your name at the pizza place, it's a fucking problem.

[Michael]

They had Jeff signed the wall.

[Doug Budin]

I was there every day getting pizza. Literally.

[Ryan]

It was so convenient. All of our venues were in this one area, and Mulberry street pizza was right there. So it. It couldn't have been more convenient.

[Michael]

You know, I went on four separate occasions.

[Doug Budin]

Same all.

[Michael]

I ate well.

[Liz]

Yeah. The thorn, like, Friday night was the drinking. So many chumps would just hand you drinks.

[Michael]

It was carry. It was chumpioki.

[Liz]

Yeah. But before the chumpio. That's where it started. And then by the time Chumpioki, I thought I was hallucinating watching Patrick and Paul singing It's Raining Men. And I was like, I. I was, like, just laughing so hard.

[Doug Budin]

That was the thorn.

[Liz]

Because it felt like a nightmare, you know, in the best way.

[Ryan]

A fever. Dre.

[Doug Budin]

I just. The chumpioki was by far one of my favorite. Brunch, too, was one of my favorite events. I agree. And the only problem is we had some, you know, we had some good singers, some fair singers. And then there was Patrick and Paul that were screaming it's raining men. My ears started to bleed. I am not kidding. And Brogan, who is the nicest, most considerate person in the world, he grabbed the mic from them and was like, okay, we're done. Cause I was like, screaming, make it stop. I was gonna go find the break liquors and just shut the power off.

[Liz]

But then Carney Wilson singing Hold on. I mean, I don't care how, like, old that song is. It is the best song. No, but, like, it is an iconic.

[Doug Budin]

Song, kind of a swipe.

[Ryan]

No. Or that one. That one song, she Forget that it's.

[Doug Budin]

30 years old, you know, and she's a one hit wonder. But you know what?

[Michael]

It still slots.

[Ryan]

No, I sang with.

[Liz]

What I'm saying was it was an extremely special moment.

[Michael]

It's a timeless.

[Liz]

Every time she does that, it's like.

[Ryan]

Amazing again, because that's her. The one thing she can do. So whenever she does it.

[Doug Budin]

Right. The only song she ever sang.

[Ryan]

So, yeah, I was a beast on the tambourine. I was a one man percussion department.

[Doug Budin]

All right, so we do have to talk about Lakendra. Of course. So we found out Lakendra was going and I said, oh, once the little people, you know, once we had to let it go with the little people, I needed people in the audience to take questions. So I hired Lakendra.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah, hired her.

[Ryan]

Oh, you did hire her.

[Doug Budin]

Yes.

[Ryan]

Okay.

[Doug Budin]

And so we went over all of the schedule, everything. And as you know, Doug being our producer, what time were the chumps supposed to meet before the live event?

[Ryan]

We were, we. Everybody had a call time of 6.40pm.

[Michael]

However, we then said on Saturday there is no time between the five to six meet and greets. And we are all going directly from this 5 to 6 meet and greet to the green room. There will be pizza and then we're going right on stage.

[Ryan]

But she wasn't part of that meet and greet.

[Michael]

She was.

[Ryan]

Oh, see, I didn't know that.

[Michael]

She started.

[Doug Budin]

We're out. The pool party. Back up. Pool party was also a very big success.

[Ryan]

12 to 3.

[Doug Budin]

Lot of drunk chumps. Like, very drunk. Like somebody really fell and hit hard. And I'm surprised you weren't insurance.

[Ryan]

You were.

[Doug Budin]

Well, we're gonna talk about that. But so Lakendra, first of all, we had a baby chump there. So mom chump was there and she brought her 22 year old son who was the cutest kid.

[Michael]

And they were platinum passed out. They were at every event having the best time.

[Liz]

And he dressed like a pro golfer. The.

[Ryan]

He did. He really did.

[Liz]

Really? I thought he was in the Masters.

[Ryan]

Cable knit sweater and a baseball cap.

[Doug Budin]

So I was there when they first met lakindra and this little baby chump and she. Because she's like, how old are you? Because he was all over her and she's like, how old are you? And he was so funny because he's like, how old do you want me to be?

[Ryan]

Yep.

[Doug Budin]

And so I don't think she ever got the real age. And if she did get an age, I don't think she Knew he was 22. Anyway, I did see them leave the pool Party together.

[Ryan]

Yes.

[Doug Budin]

Okay. But I assumed it was like, you know, she was gonna show up for the event.

[Ryan]

Right. So then we all were at the thing. Then we were backstage.

[Doug Budin]

Yes.

[Ryan]

The show was gonna start at 7. It was now 6:52. And there was a lot of, where's Lakendra?

[Doug Budin]

Yeah, a lot of, where's Lakendra?

[Ryan]

Kendra.

[Crystal]

Everybody was going to be doing Q and A in the audience, and we realized we only had.

[Liz]

Well, I have an addition to that story. At 5:30, I. Liz and. Right, Liz. No, to. To go to the venue and John.

[Michael]

Who brought a personal escort.

[Liz]

I had to, like, put the things together. And lakindra was out there. And I go, lakendra, just one more reminder. We're gonna go to you. One question and one question from Rick. And she looks not in my eye, but directly. Yes, Ryan. To the. To the right of my eyes.

[Doug Budin]

Well, we forgot to mention where we found her. So she wasn't. She wasn't backstage. And we were running a few minutes late. That wasn't our fault. No, we were all there. It was like a seating thing. We're waiting for everyone to seat. And then Liz was like, wait a minute. Is that Lakandra sitting in the audience? She's just sitting like all the other.

[Michael]

With her new boyfriend.

[Ryan]

Just hanging out, Just sitting, waiting for the show. This is gonna be a good show.

[Liz]

Having the time of her life is slammer.

[Michael]

But at Champiochi, she was so hysterical. She, like, kicked off the party with, like, a virgin, and she was hysterical.

[Liz]

Well, she's not a virgin anymore.

[Doug Budin]

No, she's not.

[Liz]

No, she's not.

[Doug Budin]

No. I know she'd been on the show several times and said she doesn't sleep with anyone on the first day.

[Liz]

Good Christian woman. Yes.

[Doug Budin]

But then when I ran into the kid at the brunch, I'm like, hey, where's. Oh. First of all, he's like, I'm in love. And I go, oh, no. Oh, no. And he goes, I'm like, where's Lendra? He's like, I don't know. She left my room at, like, 6:15.

[Michael]

Oh, my God.

[Doug Budin]

Oh, yes. So it happened again after.

[Liz]

Did you notice her hair was, like, a little askew?

[Ryan]

The wig was a little. A little askew.

[Doug Budin]

I think the wig was backwards.

[Michael]

But it wasn't a first date because they met on Friday at the meet and greet.

[Doug Budin]

Yes.

[Michael]

So Saturday they were fully coupled up.

[Ryan]

She was able to perform during the show. And we said, kendra, do you.

[Liz]

Oh, she performed, all right.

[Ryan]

She was texting me during the show. She Was like, do I interrupt at this point? And I said, well, let's wait for a break in the conversation.

[Liz]

That was the thing. During the live show, I'm getting texts from Liz, I'm getting texts from Doug, and then I'm getting texts from Lakendra.

[Ryan]

She was drunk.

[Liz]

She was texting me during the show the whole time. And I'm like, I'm on stage. You see me? And she'll be like, wouldn't it be funny if I'm like, this isn't a pitch meeting right now.

[Ryan]

Thanks, La Kendra.

[Doug Budin]

Here's the thing. We thought about it. You know, I'm talk to Michael. Michael, by the way, fell off the wagon. He was on the hard 75 for more than 75.

[Michael]

He was. Yeah, he was clean.

[Ryan]

Michael Beck.

[Doug Budin]

Michael Beck. But you did hear about the chump. Eight years sober.

[Liz]

No.

[Doug Budin]

Fell off the wagon.

[Ryan]

No.

[Doug Budin]

Yeah, but she said. Was that true?

[Ryan]

Because.

[Doug Budin]

Oh, it's true.

[Ryan]

Somebody recorded you saying that.

[Doug Budin]

Oh, it is true. But I did. I saw her at brunch.

[Jeff Lewis]

She looked okay.

[Doug Budin]

She was. She's like, I'm a little hungover. She goes, I'm not going to drink again until next chop con. I'm like, okay, that's an appropriate time. So once a year is fine.

[Liz]

Yeah, that's.

[Jeff Lewis]

I think.

[Liz]

I think in AA they say that once a year is okay.

[Doug Budin]

Okay. Yeah, I figured. It's one weekend.

[Ryan]

I barely drank. I think I had one drink the entire weekend.

[Liz]

Is that true?

[Ryan]

True. I meant to have a Bloody Mary yesterday. I was all excited and I just never had a chance.

[Doug Budin]

I wish I could say that.

[Michael]

I know.

[Ryan]

Were the Bloody Marys good?

[Doug Budin]

Yes.

[Ryan]

At the brunch, because that was.

[Doug Budin]

Do you know how much my Bloody Mary was at the pool?

[Ryan]

Oh, at the pool? No.

[Liz]

How much?

[Doug Budin]

Well, I didn't realize because it was huge. It was in a tumbler. It was $75.

[Ryan]

Oh, what? What the hell?

[Liz]

At the after party on Saturday night, I ordered a Tito's vodka with cranberry.

[Michael]

$55 for a vodka soda.

[Ryan]

I did have a drink.

[Doug Budin]

I will say that mine was like three Bloody Marys in one, so that's worth it. Yeah.

[Ryan]

I have a Jameson bought me a drink now.

[Crystal]

I forgot how expensive Vegas is. Everything was.

[Liz]

But that hotel was beau like, oh, it really was an amazing.

[Doug Budin]

I loved it.

[Liz]

We never left.

[Michael]

I love my sheet.

[Doug Budin]

It's so funny because people were like, you obviously are being paid to post. I'm like, no, we just love Resorts World. We were not paid anything. They should have paid us. But they Didn't. Right. Because all we did was talk about Resorts World.

[Ryan]

In fact, we had people from other hotels that I knew who worked at the other hotels. And I was like, is it weird for you to come to a competitor product? She's like, no, we love to see what other people are doing. And she gave where we were staying great review.

[Liz]

Are we allowed to talk about the feud with Saweetie?

[Doug Budin]

Saweetie?

[Liz]

Saweetie.

[Ryan]

She's still in the green room.

[Doug Budin]

We gotta tell. Okay, first of all, Saweetie was late to the pool party. She was supposed to go on a lot earlier than she did. And I think when she was supposed to go on, she was on a plane. So I don't think she even got to the venue until 4:30. Now. One of the security guards said to me, she's can't. She canceled three times and then showed up late, so. But she had a big entourage. I ran into her. I ran into her at the Crockford hallway.

[Michael]

I didn't know that.

[Doug Budin]

Oh, she had an entourage of like seven people. And this one guy's like, you look familiar. I'm like, oh. He goes, you're that house guy. And then the other guy was hitting on Ty. Nice on Ty Dolla. But I saw Saweetie. She was very nice.

[Liz]

Well, you know, she wouldn't leave the green room.

[Doug Budin]

Yes. I heard she went in our green room and they couldn't get her out. Security was banging on the door.

[Ryan]

Yeah, she signed the green room wall though, when I walk the green room and it said saweetie with. With April 10th or whatever.

[Doug Budin]

But did we need the green room at that time? Anyway, I know they were worried hot, hot, hot.

[Liz]

Nanny Lisa and her husband were like furious because they took all of the refreshments that were for us. Oh, and he was. Yeah, yeah.

[Ryan]

That's why I was so hungry.

[Michael]

She was. Yeah, she was setting up the pizzas and stuff. So they needed access before we did. But it all worked out.

[Doug Budin]

Ryan, I have to say you made me laugh because. No, Doug, I'm going to say it again. You did an incredible job. Directing, producing, whatever, And I know it was a self appointed position that you weren't paid for and I. And nobody asked and you weren't asked.

[Ryan]

To do it, but I admitted it, my anxiety.

[Doug Budin]

We needed to, but you did an incredible job. So we had this kind of meeting right before we go out on the show, on the stage. And you know, it was kind of a long meeting, don't you think? Literally.

[Michael]

No, it was a lot.

[Doug Budin]

Oh, it felt long.

[Michael]

Well, no one else knew the run of show except for, like, the four of us. So Doug was like, I'm gonna gather everyone in the hallway 20 minutes before we go on stage and just kind of give everyone a rundown run of show. Here's what to expect.

[Doug Budin]

And I felt like it went on and on and on. And chumps, because you knew it, they didn't. Well, and then chumps have add, so it did take a while. But what I like is, after all of that, and you did your big motivational speech, and then Ryan was like, look, hey, Ryan, you want to say a few words? It'll be what it is. I'm like, there you go. There you go.

[Ryan]

But then Jamie Kennedy led a prayer. We had a lovely prayer. Our Alexis Bellino homage moment. We had a. You know, we all came together and we all left together. I mean, there are no big feuds, right? No.

[Doug Budin]

Doug was the first person to post at the show. Keyan, can you get on mic, please?

[Ryan]

I was.

[Doug Budin]

So Keyan's back at the office, and you're looking at all everybody's posting, and what do you see, Keyan?

[Keyan]

I see this, like, backstage angle of Doug, like, in his suit on stage, and, you know, made it look like you were kind of hosting or moderating the show from this angle.

[Crystal]

From Sarah.

[Ryan]

Oh. Oh, from Sarah.

[Keyan]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

You mean after. I thought you meant during the show.

[Keyan]

Very, like, vague, ambiguous.

[Doug Budin]

You were the first one to post.

[Keyan]

And you did it before anybody else. So it looks like you maybe moderated the show.

[Doug Budin]

Yeah. So I posted only once the whole weekend, which was a group photo. That was the only thing I posted. But I noticed you posted a lot of pictures of you. Just you.

[Ryan]

Yeah, I did stories, the whole. Well, that's. Cause I was alone some of the time, but I was. I posted throughout the whole weekend. Sarah Colonna sent me that picture of me. I thought it was beautiful. And somebody else sent me that picture of me and Carnie doing karaoke, and I thought that was beautiful. I think those are the only. I think those are called, like, a carousel or something. Like on the humane thing, not stories.

[Doug Budin]

But as you were saying, you were under the impression that Doug was hosting the whole show based on that single picture. I see what you're trying. No, I'm just.

[Ryan]

No, I put the hashtag funcon2025.

[Keyan]

If I wasn't there that weekend, I would have assumed from this photo that, oh, Doug is, you know, the host of the show.

[Doug Budin]

Yeah, but it was Ryan, actually. Keen.

[Ryan]

Oh, shit.

[Keyan]

I Didn't know. See the post. Looks like it was Doug.

[Ryan]

Hardy har har. Good. Well, that's what your own assumption. It's not like I wrote copy this. I loved hosting the show.

[Doug Budin]

I just did.

[Ryan]

Chill.

[Liz]

I will say this. Doug, afterwards came up to me and said, you did a great job, but this will be your final one. He did say that to me. Yeah.

[Doug Budin]

I think as an intern. You did a great job, Doug. Thanks. Line one, Liz from Ohio. Liz, you made it home okay?

[Kim]

Oh, I was fine. I was sober, not like you guys. But I just wanted to say, Oscar, thank you for letting me put me through. I just want to say everybody was extremely wonderful and nice at the event. I had gone by myself, so I was a little scared to go by myself. But I just had explained to Oscar that Le Kendra was in the booth in front of me. So I saw that whole thing happen in front of us that you were talking about. So I was like, what is wrong with her? She is hammered.

[Liz]

Yeah.

[Kim]

And yes, you're right. I think her wig was off. I don't know. I was. And she. She was screaming into that microphone, and we're like, is she, like, screaming in there? But we saw her sit. I didn't know that was the kid that you guys were talking about, but he was that his mom.

[Doug Budin]

His mom is hot. His mom doesn't even look like his mom. I mean, she's so young looking. But yes, that was his mom.

[Ryan]

He's only 22. I mean, how old?

[Kim]

Okay, so they were sitting. They. They were sitting right in front of us. And so when she came over, she sat right next to them. And I thought, well, that's kind of weird. So she was sitting there the entire time talking. And then she'd get up, and then she would come back and sit down. And then I think it was towards the end of the show. I don't know if you guys saw this. He walked over to her, and they were in an embrace, and he was speaking to her in the ear, and it looked like they were gonna make out. And I was like, God, get a room.

[Liz]

But they did get a room.

[Doug Budin]

Yes. More than one.

[Kim]

Well, I didn't know that, but thank you for telling us. But I also wanted to say that I met Doug, and Doug, I love you. I don't know if you remember me. Lives from Ohio. I met you Friday, and then Saturday at the pool. I asked to take a picture with you. You nice and. And happy, and I loved it. You put your hand on my butt.

[Liz]

Classic Doug. Classic Doug.

[Ryan]

There's a few theories.

[Doug Budin]

I'm walking you over to hr.

[Ryan]

But. Is there a but? Or is that. Was it all just yay and positive?

[Liz]

No, no, no.

[Kim]

Remember you said. You said I only had one drink too. So you said, I learned where to put my hand in pictures and then you slid it down.

[Ryan]

Exactly. That's what I was going to say.

[Liz]

Did you notice that?

[Ryan]

That's right when I lear. What happened is I always put my arm around somebody's shoulder when we take a picture. And a chump was like, you know, you've got to stop doing that. That makes your arm look really fat and weird and it ruins your clothes. You're supposed to put your arms down.

[Doug Budin]

Behind the person, and then you accidentally brushed against Liz's.

[Ryan]

Unfortunately, the first 30 times I've done this, I end up putting my hand either down somebody's pants or on their ass. So I now have to look before I put my hand.

[Liz]

Did you notice Doug's wig was asleep?

[Ryan]

Thank you, Liz.

[Doug Budin]

Liz.

[Ryan]

You had a good time, Liz.

[Kim]

I did. I wanted to send you the picture of me and you, but I didn't know how to send it to you.

[Ryan]

You can maybe send it on Instagram. Ugbutin. I would love to see it.

[Doug Budin]

Thank you, Liz. Thank you for going. Appreciate it. So, okay, in regards to Lakendra, next year's jumpcon. I would love Lakendra to attend, but she won't be working for us. That ship has sailed.

[Michael]

I saw her on Friday night after karaok. I got pizza with my parents, of course. And then as I was walking out of pizza, she was walking into the club and she's like, don't judge me. Douglas family.

[Doug Budin]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

Cause Shane's parents were there.

[Liz]

I will say your parents were. Your mom was the coolest. She was the nicest, sweetest lady.

[Ryan]

And Jeff, your parents were there.

[Doug Budin]

Yes. So Ty was sitting next to my parents, and I'm like, hey, how'd they like the show? He goes, they cringed a few times. And he goes. I could see them get, like, a little tense. And I go, what? I go, what? What upset them? Monica. I don't know if she had been drinking or what, but she said something very explicit on stage about this.

[Liz]

How much the fan social would cost.

[Doug Budin]

Yes. So we were talking about fan social, and there was like a kind of a joking, you know, what would it. What would it cost to sleep with you? And then with her, she went a little further with that and got very explicit, specific. And I can tell my parents who are. They're not Like, I don't know. I mean, they're not uptight people. But I think Ty was like, yeah, that was one. And I go, what was another one? He goes, zach the ass in the air. Zach pulling down his pants and then, like, putting his ass in the air for context.

[Ryan]

Zach was. Was showing everybody how he was laying on the floor during the substance.

[Liz]

During his.

[Crystal]

He had his underwears on.

[Liz]

But can I tell you, the original bit was gonna be that we were gonna have Shane do it because we didn't think Zach was gonna do it correctly.

[Crystal]

Shane, literally, I'm in my booth, he's like, oh, I have a bit coming up. Just move over a little bit.

[Liz]

I was like, we thought Shane was gonna do it, but Zach jumped the gun and sure did. Pulled his pants down, like, so there.

[Doug Budin]

Was that, or we loved it. And then there was the.

[Michael]

I'm trying to give away.

[Doug Budin]

When Zach and Joey made out, you.

[Ryan]

You released that, right? Information.

[Doug Budin]

No, I'm just saying it.

[Liz]

No, in the green room.

[Michael]

No, on stage, they did a bit.

[Doug Budin]

No, on stage, they did that bit. And then my. My parents were a little like, yeah, just maybe thought it was a bit inappropriate.

[Liz]

How did Ty do this weekend?

[Doug Budin]

You know what Ty likes? Crazy.

[Liz]

Really?

[Doug Budin]

I think he really. He. He loved the circus.

[Jeff Lewis]

He did.

[Doug Budin]

I mean, I think he. Walking into it, it's a little. I mean, he really. I. I think he did well with it all.

[Ryan]

He seemed very calm throughout.

[Doug Budin]

Well, except for one time because he saw me. I was panicked because when that. When we're on that deck that was bouncing, did you see that chump hop up on the railing and started twerking? And I'm like, she is gonna fall and break her neck. And I.

[Liz]

How dare you, Lakendra?

[Doug Budin]

I, like, looked over and Ty, like, just jumped and he's, like. Went over. He's like, get down. Yeah, he's like, get down and. Cause I was so afraid she was gonna fall.

[Michael]

Yeah.

[Doug Budin]

And then, as you know, chump did throw up in the elevator.

[Liz]

No.

[Michael]

Oh, I talked to her. She threw up like a fan. Chump threw up in the elevator on our way up to a room. And then in the hallway. Threw up all down the hallway.

[Ryan]

Oh, God.

[Doug Budin]

Yeah, we did have a chump throw up in their bed, which is dangerous.

[Ryan]

We had a chump denied boarding on.

[Doug Budin]

Her flight home because she was too drunk. So we had a chump that was refused. They refused to board her. And then we did have a chump pass out for dehydration. And the EMTs came and that. That Single handedly could fuck up my insurance for next. Next year.

[Liz]

Well, then let's not talk about it, okay?

[Doug Budin]

I don't think they were a chump. I think it was somebody else at the club.

[Liz]

It's a big hotel.

[Ryan]

The hotels were open.

[Liz]

Carrie Underwood was playing that night as well. So it could be Carrie Underwood fans.

[Doug Budin]

You're right.

[Michael]

They are crazier than the chomp, those Carrie Underwood fans.

[Ryan]

All that said, just walking around the hotel because everybody was there, you know, Like I bumped into Reza yesterday walking to Starbucks.

[Liz]

Dude, Reza was awesome.

[Ryan]

So exciting. Just. Just seeing everybody.

[Doug Budin]

Did you see the chump that brought in their own bottle of tequila at your brunch?

[Michael]

No, she was just drinking it from the bottle.

[Ryan]

Oh, that's.

[Liz]

Oh, wait, wait. There was one woman that showed me. She had a bracelet that was a flask.

[Doug Budin]

It's amazing. I saw it too, and it was.

[Liz]

A real diamond on the opener. And at the pool party she was like, here.

[Doug Budin]

She must have had that custom made.

[Ryan]

Yeah, go to jefflewismerch.com so to explain.

[Doug Budin]

It, it's like this big gold bracelet with like a diamond on top. And then you unscrew the diamond and then she puts hard alcohol in it.

[Ryan]

Wow.

[Doug Budin]

It's kind of amazing and desperate, but you know, she'll get like orange juice or something and then just pour it into the orange juice.

[Ryan]

So somebody. You were saying somebody brought a bottle.

[Doug Budin]

I want to get one of those bracelets.

[Ryan]

Somebody brought a bottle to the.

[Doug Budin]

Someone brought an entire bottle of tequila to your brunch?

[Michael]

I thought she would just like get a juice and like drink it. She just opened the bottle. Pop to open. Was just drinking that. She said she was out till seven.

[Crystal]

I walked over, I was like, hey, that's empty. She's like, don't judge me. I was like, oh, I'm not judging you. I just like that bot.

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[Doug Budin]

Is it true that you went to the pool party and at first you did not have your id? After everyone said bring your ID to.

[Crystal]

The first, so we went to the pool party. But the pool party is a club so I purposely didn't bring my wallet because I didn't know where my stuff was gonna be. So we all go down and we realize we need our IDs. So I'm like and they were let.

[Ryan]

Me they were you couldn't show a picture of your ID or any. Like, they needed the. They kept saying physical.

[Crystal]

So I'm like, brandon, back to the room. We go back to the room.

[Michael]

That was as far as can be. I mean, it was the other side of the property.

[Crystal]

We go back to the room. We're now back 10 minutes later, and we get past ID, okay? And I open my bag and she's like, what's that? I said, it's my fiber pills. She's like, you can't bring pills in here. I said, it's fiber. She said, you're gonna have to throw them away. I said, I'm not throwing away this fiber pill. So I'm like, brandon, turn around.

[Doug Budin]

We're going back.

[Ryan]

We went back again.

[Liz]

I bumped into the back.

[Crystal]

We go back, we leave the room again. We're at the elevator bay. Liz types into that group chat. Oh, and no water. I'm like, brandon, turn around.

[Liz]

And drop.

[Crystal]

Off our water bott bottles.

[Liz]

No fiber pills.

[Crystal]

I know. I wasn't get. I couldn't. I couldn't. So, yeah, I got turned away.

[Ryan]

It was because we were the first group. That's how. Otherwise, nobody else would have brought their IDs either. So Jameson was. Was part of the first.

[Liz]

Well, I walked in with Pole and Paul had Snow White 90210. And they're like. The one security guard goes, that's a dog. And then he's like, he's gonna scream, discrimination. Just let it do it.

[Doug Budin]

Yeah, he's smart. I myself was going to call the ASPCA that dog when they. I mean, they bounce it around. It's not a purse. I mean, the way they carry it around and bounce it around and, like, throw it up in the air and dance with it and it's just insane. That poor thing.

[Liz]

Did you see the two amazing ladies that brought the Snow White dolls that looked more real than Snow White?

[Doug Budin]

They looked healthier. Those stuffed animals looked healthier than the dog.

[Ryan]

I was gonna show one to Paul and said, this is what your dog needs to look like.

[Doug Budin]

You could probably switch it. They wouldn't know the difference.

[Liz]

Chumps really showed up the wrong one.

[Crystal]

The chumps really showed up in theme. Like with the dogs with the clever shirts.

[Liz]

Yeah, it was cool.

[Crystal]

It was really fun to see.

[Ryan]

I got a tomato. Somebody gave me a tomato stuffed animal.

[Liz]

Do you see Chump Con 2025? If you're not blowing, you're not going shirt.

[Crystal]

A guy came up to me. He had a shirt that said Donkey Tooth Slut. And he's like, I just walked down the boulevard wearing this shirt. I was like, that's real dedication.

[Ryan]

It's true. The guest and Jameson and I had a great conversation with the Chusbins. Oh, we did, like Chump and Chusband.

[Crystal]

Yeah. It was very cute.

[Ryan]

Amazing.

[Doug Budin]

Did. I don't know, because my stepmother doesn't normally drink. I wonder if she had a cocktail, because random people were coming. Like, Joey came over. Is like, your stepmom just invited me to Christmas. I'm like, I don't want to spend Christmas with Joey Zauzing.

[Michael]

She was texting.

[Ryan]

Now you know how Carrie feels every time you invite people to her house. That's exactly. I was with Claudia on Friday. She wasn't drinking Friday night because I got her water. That was all she had. But maybe on Saturday.

[Doug Budin]

I don't know.

[Michael]

She probably needed something to get through that show and the pool party and everything. I did.

[Doug Budin]

Now, Joey had a really nice outfit when he arrived at the pool party.

[Michael]

Which it was expensive. It was like an Acne Studios matching set. Like, that's expensive now.

[Doug Budin]

It went missing.

[Liz]

Yeah.

[Doug Budin]

And he had no clothes. By the end of the pool party, he had no clothes. So he had to walk through the casino barefoot. And somebody gave him a T shirt that said, I'm a personality, not a speller.

[Ryan]

I'm a personality and a speller. Really?

[Doug Budin]

He just lost his clothes.

[Michael]

He lost all of his clothes.

[Crystal]

Allegedly. Someone saw it and took it to save it for him.

[Michael]

Well, that never gave it back.

[Crystal]

And then it went missing or something.

[Ryan]

Oh, it's not probably on Poshmark.

[Liz]

Wait, what was the question he got wrong on stage that we asked him?

[Crystal]

Where did the Mayflower land?

[Ryan]

Yeah. Where did he.

[Doug Budin]

It was Connecticut.

[Ryan]

You're right. He said Connecticut.

[Doug Budin]

But what I love is when you asked him to spell entrepreneur because he's like, yeah.

[Liz]

I was like, what's it like to be a digital entrepreneur?

[Doug Budin]

Can you spell it?

[Liz]

And then no. And then he said, and I go, follow up question. Spell entrepreneur.

[Doug Budin]

I've never heard anyone spell it that way. It was like, E, N, T, I, R, A, E, I, O, U, Z, Y. I'm like, what the fuck is he doing?

[Crystal]

I think the other funny thing about Plymouth Rock is it's not only that he didn't know it. He's like. And no one else knows that.

[Ryan]

Right. He said, who would know that?

[Doug Budin]

Everybody play with rock and crystal knew.

[Ryan]

I put in because I wrote those questions. There were some trick questions. One of them was, what's the longest river in America, they all got that. Not Joey. Oh, but Chris was like, Missouri.

[Liz]

She knew.

[Ryan]

And it's only one mile longer than the Mississippi.

[Michael]

I would have Mississippi.

[Doug Budin]

Everybody would say, Crystal's one of our smartest chumps.

[Ryan]

Very smart.

[Doug Budin]

But I thought Cynthia and Reza did great on the quiz as well.

[Michael]

Well, because Cynthia said, whatever, Chris.

[Liz]

Joey didn't even know how many cards were in a deck of cards.

[Ryan]

Cynthia was very strategic because Cynthia's answer was whatever Crystal said, that's what she would do. Perfect.

[Doug Budin]

Let's see here. Oh, seven. Kim Irvine. Kim, I'm so sorry. Are you at a meeting this morning?

[Cynthia]

Oh, my God. I am paying for it.

[Doug Budin]

So Kim is the one that was eight years sober.

[Michael]

Chic.

[Doug Budin]

Kim, did you.

[Cynthia]

Can you hear it in my voice?

[Doug Budin]

So at what point did you surrender and just start drinking again? Kim?

[Cynthia]

It didn't take long. I mean, I, my girlfriend, I were part of the platinum group and everybody had a cocktail in their hand.

[Doug Budin]

I'm like, okay, okay. So this was.

[Cynthia]

The weekend went downhill from there.

[Liz]

Was there like an experience with one of the chumps that we were like, I want to talk to this person. So I got to have a drink.

[Doug Budin]

Like liquid courage? Yeah.

[Cynthia]

No, because you know what? I have to say, everybody was so warm and engaging and really, really, like, open. So, no, it was just fun. I mean, it's not like I, I just chose not to drink anymore. And I thought, well, this is a good place.

[Ryan]

You don't have a problem if she just. She's sober by choice, those two. That might feel better. I tell you.

[Cynthia]

Yes, I, we. My girlfriend and I sat with Baby C's mom. He is the loveliest woman I know and super generous and she does not look her age. But Lakendra and Baby Chomp was like, okay, this is happening.

[Liz]

Lakendra's mother in law.

[Doug Budin]

Now, I was thinking that in nine months she's gonna be a grandma.

[Liz]

And by the way, didn't she say a couple months? Lakendra wanted to be a mom eventually.

[Michael]

Pregnant by Christmas.

[Doug Budin]

It's actually pretty smart.

[Liz]

That's really.

[Doug Budin]

Because Grandma has car dealerships. Thanks for listening. If you want more of this, listen.

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