
Golnesa Gharachedaghi, Mercedes Javid, & Shane Douglas join Jeff Lewis in Los Angeles.
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Mercedes Javid
When you're Jeff Lewis, the drama never stops.
Jeff Lewis
I have no problem prioritizing myself.
Gigi
I'm glad that you're feeling so good about this, but the truth is I got fired and it's your fucking fault.
Jeff Lewis
She gets paid for this shit. You get paid for this shit.
Gigi
Jeff Lewis has issues.
Jeff Lewis
Hey, welcome to Jeff Lewis Has Issues. And this episode, Gigi and Mercedes Javit joined the show. We chat about Gigi using the side entrance at BravoCon and her new Christmas elf. Plus MJ gives an update on where she stands since her separation. I can't pronounce your last name. I'm sorry. For the last name.
Gigi
I would love for you to try.
Jeff Lewis
I'm not gonna try. I'm not gonna butcher it. Mercedes, you've got about five cups there. What is all that?
Mercedes Javid
Okay, so I haven't been drinking any water, so there's that.
Jeff Lewis
Okay, so we have water, we have.
Mercedes Javid
Diet coke, Diet coke, hot cocoa. Annie was so kind enough to get me almond latte. And then this one is cup of noodles, breakfast.
Gigi
Wow.
Mercedes Javid
Slurp it during.
Jeff Lewis
Ew. Gigi, the last time you were here, I think you had just got divorced after being married for seven weeks.
Gigi
Oh, no, no, no. The second marriage was I was only married for about seven days.
Jeff Lewis
Oh, yeah, days, not seven weeks. I was trying to help you here.
Gigi
I like the number seven. No, the first marriage was seven weeks. Two years of divorce for that seven weeks of marriage. And then the second one was about a week's time and a quick annulment.
Jeff Lewis
So you really work on relationships? Yeah. You put a lot into them and really work on them. How do you feel now you're single now?
Gigi
I am very single. I'm very, very single. Unfortunately. Unfortunately, my sex toy company kept me fulfilled, but now it's just you know, a little rubbery these days.
Jeff Lewis
You'd like the real thing is what you're saying.
Mercedes Javid
Oh, okay.
Jeff Lewis
So it's been a while since you've been on a date.
Gigi
Yes.
Jeff Lewis
And obviously, I mean, you're a very attractive woman. It's gotta be by choice. Correct.
Gigi
Thank you. I don't really think it's by choice right now. I don't know where to start. If I wanted to start looking. It's la. Everything's based on superficial things. I'm back on TV again, so kind of again makes things a little difficult. I'm not looking for a baby daddy or someone to take over daddy responsibilities, which men see me single mom. They run away immediately. They think, oh. So I feel like there's a lot of factors in LA that just keep me single.
Jeff Lewis
I see.
Gigi
Does that make sense? Where would you go for if you were me?
Jeff Lewis
Well, I think I feel like. Oh, they're afraid of her.
Mercedes Javid
Yeah. She's intimidating.
Gigi
Am I?
Mercedes Javid
Yeah.
Jeff Lewis
How? You're strong.
Mercedes Javid
She has a great body.
Jeff Lewis
Confrontational naked. So she has a great body naked as well.
Mercedes Javid
As well.
Jeff Lewis
Okay.
Mercedes Javid
People can do things on the Photoshop. She actually. Oh, girl was really athletic all her life too. So good body irl.
Jeff Lewis
Okay, what is going on with Jamie Kennedy?
Mercedes Javid
We're in escrow.
Jeff Lewis
Be really congrats. Okay, good, good. I'm very happy.
Mercedes Javid
I'm really happy for him because we got him such a perfect house for such a good deal.
Jeff Lewis
I am proud of Mercedes because I feel like you're really, you really put a lot of effort and energy into your real estate career and I think it's really paying off. And we've been good friends for a long time and I worry about you. And you never know when. You never know how long these shows are going to last.
Gigi
I agree.
Jeff Lewis
You guys had a very long run before with Shahs of Sunset, but who knows? It could be one season, it could be 12 seasons. But I like that you have something to fall back on and hopefully you're not going to put that on hold or pause in any way for the show.
Mercedes Javid
No, I think the show. I made sure that the show followed my life rather than trying to make it like just film, you know, like we have to do what I really do. And when the first time, when the show was paused or canceled, you know, Tommy and I didn't have a strong financial future.
Jeff Lewis
Right.
Mercedes Javid
The two of us were, you know, relying on the. The money that, that we got from.
Gigi
Especially when you're providing for everyone in your household.
Mercedes Javid
It was really nice to.
Jeff Lewis
I know what you meant by that.
Gigi
I mean, I'm just saying.
Jeff Lewis
Yeah, I agree. I know what you meant by that.
Mercedes Javid
So this time, you know, I think that you'll see next month when the show airs on January 8th, you're going to see my life. I'm door knocking, I'm pounding the pavement. I'm doing everything. And I told the producers, like, this is what I really do.
Gigi
And that's, you know, and that's why I'll be successful.
Mercedes Javid
Thank you.
Jeff Lewis
How are you doing? So you separated from Tommy Nguyen how long ago?
Mercedes Javid
October 17th.
Jeff Lewis
Okay. And how are you doing?
Mercedes Javid
I'm fragile. Saying that with a strong jaw.
Jeff Lewis
Okay.
Mercedes Javid
Okay. I mean, I, you know, you. I got a lot of messages about people saying that he, you know, came out, came for you, my mom and, you know, all these people saying, like, good for you, Tommy. Like, I've, you know, when you and I, Jeff, have been doing this show from your house in the hills, we were self deprecating. You, me, Megan, Doug, Shane. The show was built on the back of us being so authentic. And anybody who knows me from TV knows me from just being authentic. That being said, I protect my marriage. If I come back on Monday and tell you that we had a weekend, you know, where Tommy did or didn't do something for my birthday, it was like, not when I ever thought I was going to leave. I said that because we were having fun in a marriage that I was 100% committed to staying in. So it's really difficult for me to hear Tommy say that he doesn't have a platform while he's talking on his platform and saying that, you know, you and I are, you know, dragging him, which we all know. He said he doesn't listen to the show, he doesn't have the Sirius app, but then he'll sit there and say all these things that, like, to me are really hurtful because I'm actually not dragging him. I'm having like, I'm just. Why? Why do people want to listen to this show?
Gigi
Because they're gonna be honest. There's a scene that everyone is gonna see come up. I mean, you can't make this shit up. What happened while we were filming? It's a situation that happened with MJ and Tommy. The scene was unrelated to that. We were getting Botox. We were just doing girl stuff. And something does take place where I was shaken up just seeing that. And you guys will really get to hear and experience what this domestic situation is like and see how responsible she is over her son in that household. So, I mean, I was, I'm still. That scene was just so much for me to hear that and see that she was white as a ghost. I mean, it was a lot. It was a lot. So people do get to see your authenticity and they get to see that what he's doing right now is just shit talking because he's so upset. That's all.
Jeff Lewis
What I don't understand is he says that he will support you and go to bat for you because you're his son's mother, but then turns around and calls you batshit crazy and then goes after your mother. For what I've experienced, and I know that you are privy to the details, as is Reza. What I've experienced is that you have, I mean, yes, you come in, you talk about little arguments here and there with him, but you have protected that guy for years. And the fact is that, and you've even said to me, I don't want to go here, I don't want to talk about this, I don't want to talk about that. And what's upsetting to me is that I'm now seeing, after his one man show till the dirt, where he came out and started saying all these things and I was, he said, you know, a few things about me. What he doesn't understand is that there are so many things that you could have said about this guy and have chosen to stay quiet a, out of respect for him, but also to protect your son. But I, you know, I don't know how, you know, I know how messy this custody thing is, is going to get. But, you know, if you have to, I think you start talking, I think you start, you have to, I mean, you're gonna do what you have to do. And I'm, I'm, I'm taught, I'm not necessarily saying on the radio, but with the attorneys, the attorneys should know, you know, I mean, if, if this does become a custody battle, I think the attorney should really know all the details.
Mercedes Javid
It's just that it's like we're just having fun when we're on the radio here. We're having fun, we're talking. And so I just wonder, I was like, is it because I'm a woman? Is it because I come off as stronger? Is it because people want to root for the underdog? Why?
Gigi
It's because he never thought you'd find your value again and leave him. And that's all it is, because you devalued yourself. And I'm, I'm Going to piggyback off what Jeff was saying here. You were protecting him from. Way before you guys even got married. You were. I do know the details. I'm very privy to the details of when you guys were dating and all that. You have really stood by that man, like, hard. And it's time to say enough is enough and have people who care about you stand by you right now.
Mercedes Javid
Yeah, I think he'll just. He's a. He's like a politician in the way that he'll. He'll speak really strong. And then it's like the loudest voice in the room.
Gigi
So that's why I. Nasal voice in the room. It's not the loudest.
Jeff Lewis
If I say something or go too far, just. Just like, tell me, but I want to share something because what bothered me, and I just saw a sniper. Snippets of what he said and heard on the podcast. But he was saying that he spends more time with Shams than you do.
Mercedes Javid
Yeah.
Jeff Lewis
And I wanted to find time. And this was just one. One example. I'm at dinner with Mercedes. It's 9 o'. Clock. We're having a nice time. She says, I have to get. I have to get home. And I'm like, what's the urgency? She said, because I'm pretty much. This is what's going to happen. I'm going to go home. My son should have been in bed asleep an hour and a half ago. I'm going to go home. He's in my bedroom watching TV with his clothes on, no pajamas, no teeth brushed. And Tommy will be on the sofa watching sports. I have to go home now because I want to make sure that my kid gets in bed with pajamas, brushing the teeth. So if you define. How do we define more time? Yes, you're in the same home, but it's a little different because you're actually parenting.
Gigi
It's like being single but having to take care of the extra load that's supposed to be the father.
Mercedes Javid
So much for not talking about, well.
Jeff Lewis
I just told you, look at me and tell me to stop.
Mercedes Javid
I'm not stopping you because I just did.
Jeff Lewis
That triggered me.
Mercedes Javid
I'm not stopping you because what. What triggered me was when. When he said, she parties in Vegas. No, I'm going to Bravo Con for a. You know, for a job. Or when he doubled the time that I was in Scotland. He said, I was in Scotland for six weeks. But it's well documented that I was there for three and a half, earning money, getting. Yes. Supporting the family. So those Are the things. The same things bother me. That bothered you about exaggerating and saying. And painting a picture. That's why I said politician, because he can say these things. And, you know, also, I don't talk about negatively about his dad. I just wish that he would have had more grace. And then the comments section, I mean, people seem like they're very.
Jeff Lewis
They don't know the story. And when he said that about Bravo Con, which, you know, sorry. Says, and. But we were paid, like, 10 grand, and I thought to myself, how long would it take you to make $10,000? Two fucking years.
Mercedes Javid
Oh, God, that's too far.
Jeff Lewis
Sorry. Okay. All right. Sorry.
Mercedes Javid
So, yeah, we're. I do feel bad about talking about.
Jeff Lewis
Him here because he's already taken the gloves off.
Mercedes Javid
It's. It's like he's on his platform, so.
Gigi
You should use the same platform.
Mercedes Javid
So, yeah.
Gigi
So, yeah, I just.
Mercedes Javid
And we haven't spoken about it, and I don't know. Now I'm sure his DMs were flooded.
Reza Farahan
Have you had a conversation?
Mercedes Javid
We. I'm not gonna broach the topic with him because I know what that's like.
Jeff Lewis
Are you afraid of him?
Mercedes Javid
I mean, I just don't want to confront. I don't want the confrontation, because it.
Jeff Lewis
Will be a confrontation.
Mercedes Javid
It will escalate, because there's no good that will come out of talking to somebody that is committed to his version of reality.
Gigi
Maris is also not a very aggressively confrontational person. I mean, I know because I've tried a few times. She backs up fast, but she's very cal. She stays composed. And I think Tommy's the polar opposite of that. He's very expressive and emotional and shows it. And she needs time to just. Where are you going, girl?
Jeff Lewis
She just adjusted the chair and pretty much fell to the floor.
Mercedes Javid
I thought it was funny.
Gigi
I think that's her way of trying to get away from the convo. Mj, do you think part of it.
Jeff Lewis
Is having to kind of reconcile that this is the person you chose and just trying to figure out how you look at yourself in the mirror and reconcile that?
Mercedes Javid
You know, I just think about shams. I just want. I think about school. I think about our dignity. I think about, you know, people that. I want people to look at us and say, you know what? Those are good people that had to go separate ways with as little judgment as possible because everyone's got a situation, and my main thing is just to be civilized.
Jeff Lewis
Right. I mean, I know that's your intention. We'll see.
Gigi
Yeah. We'll see. That's the truth.
Jeff Lewis
My theory was, you know, sometimes people are nice and civil and polite because they think there's a shot at getting back together. And then when they realize that is not an option, then that's when things start getting ugly.
Mercedes Javid
I don't know. I. I mean, it's so brand new.
Gigi
We.
Mercedes Javid
We. It's only been a month and a half. So I think that all we think about is just the adjustment for Shams to see us together and getting along.
Jeff Lewis
And I. I think that is important.
Mercedes Javid
I. You guys, I wake up, I go to work.
Gigi
I go.
Mercedes Javid
You know, it's like, there's not a lot of time for me to do anything else. I'm really trying to keep it together for everyone, and that's it.
Jeff Lewis
Okay. I. It. It. I can feel your trepidation and fear of confrontation, and that's not something you have to live with anymore.
Mercedes Javid
I feel like. I hate that I can get blame because I've been trying to be respectful. So it's like. Like what Golnessa was saying about, like, you don't say anything to protect him and to protect your family and your marriage, and then you walk away. And the chumps, maybe they're. They're, like, on his side, and it just doesn't feel fair because that's the part that also hurts, you know?
Jeff Lewis
Well, look, you're not going to win over everybody. I mean, you. You. You know. You know all the facts, right? So he's presenting his version, and you're presenting your version. Gigi and I have to see, the thing is, is that the difference with Gigi and I and Reza is that we've been on this ride for years. So it wasn't like you were out publicly trying to convince anyone. You were telling your close friends what you were going through. That's very different than going on a podcast and trying to convince America that you're the good guy and that your wife is batshit crazy. It's very, very different.
Reza Farahan
The truth is on your side. So as information comes to light, then, I mean, you. You'll be supported. I mean, that's just.
Jeff Lewis
What's crazy is that he's fucking with you, because from what I know.
Mercedes Javid
Yeah, that's true.
Jeff Lewis
What I know, you can fucking ruin him.
Mercedes Javid
From what I know, it's a manipulation, and I'm falling for it.
Jeff Lewis
I think you should honestly switch the power and just say if you even fucking raise your voice at me again, you're. There's going to be a restraining order and you're not going to see your kid.
Mercedes Javid
That's.
Jeff Lewis
I think you need a power position.
Mercedes Javid
That's crazy, Jeff. But that's crazy. That's crazy. When sh. What you reminded me of is that everything that we would talk about, like, Jeff, you have a bigger audience than the dirties. Till the dirt. But. Yeah, but if you go and listen to my episodes, I didn't say anything negative about him during this process or before when we come here or you go to the pod. Me and Tommy are talking about all the same things, so there's no trashing or dragging. That's why I. You're right. I am easily manipulated by him because I love him and I want. And I.
Gigi
And I took the bait, and he's disrespecting your mother.
Mercedes Javid
Yeah, that part.
Gigi
That's a big part.
Jeff Lewis
There's a lot of parts.
Mercedes Javid
Yeah, there's a lot of parts.
Jeff Lewis
All right, switching gears.
Gigi
So the beautiful. After that.
Jeff Lewis
BravoCon, I think you have to clear your name.
Gigi
Uh. Oh, me?
Jeff Lewis
Yeah. We had Ben Mandelker on this show, and he said that you were one of the. But you can talk about this. That you are one of the only Bravo liberties that took the side entrance, that didn't want to meet with fans.
Gigi
Oh. I'll be very honest with you. I get a little insecure with fans. I've never been that confident person. Like, when I see Reza, for instance, he has this light that just turns on when the fans are in front of us, and I'm the one who sort of just puts my head down and kind of goes the other direction. I feel like it's a little arrogant, you know, I don't know why. It's a personal thing. I feel like I'm arrogant if I'm.
Mercedes Javid
Like, yeah, hey, come take pictures. Come on.
Gigi
I feel really weird about it. So I'm just like, hey, I'm just one of you guys. I'm a fan. Like you guys.
Reza Farahan
There's ever a time and place. It is BravoCon. You've been on Bravo for 10 years. They're there to see it is overwhelming. Of course it is. But that's. It's not like you're. It's. It's not like you're outside Craig's trying to wait for the paparazzi. Like, they're there to meet you.
Jeff Lewis
So let's clarify, then. This isn't what. This isn't a situation where you were, like, felt above it, didn't want to meet people. This was social anxiety.
Gigi
It is. I get very, very overstimulated I am on the spectrum. So for me, touching and the constant of having to feel like I'm performing. But I love my fans. Like I'm the. I will sit there for hours and have conversations with them. Like deep heart to heart conversations. But the constant feeling of I'm being put on a platform. I get a little shy or nervous or feel like I'm arrogant about. I don't know that's real.
Jeff Lewis
Is it true? I heard that you weren't the only person, because maybe there's different reasons why people take side entrances. You've told us yours, but is there anyone else that you saw go through that side entrance? Any other Bravo Liberties?
Gigi
I mean, I went through a lot of side entrances. I smoke a lot of weed, so I have to find a lot of side doors.
Jeff Lewis
Did you see any other Bravo Liberties that did not go through the main entrance to meet fans?
Gigi
Name?
Jeff Lewis
Em.
Gigi
I didn't see anybody else. I just throw my head down and my mind.
Mercedes Javid
She's trying not to snitch.
Jeff Lewis
Yeah, I noticed that.
Mercedes Javid
She's trying not to.
Gigi
Snitches get stitches.
Jeff Lewis
Okay, so you don't want any Bravo Liberties coming through.
Mercedes Javid
Okay. Who else did you walk in with ever during that weekend?
Jeff Lewis
Good question. Mercedes, I. Who was next to you? Gigi?
Mercedes Javid
Yeah.
Jeff Lewis
Oh, I don't know.
Gigi
I was talking.
Jeff Lewis
I don't remember.
Gigi
I walked in with all my friends. Like who?
Mercedes Javid
Like who? Who are they?
Gigi
Oh, my gosh.
Jeff Lewis
Who?
Gigi
You guys have to tell me.
Mercedes Javid
I don't know. I didn't know.
Jeff Lewis
We don't know.
Gigi
Was it a guy?
Mercedes Javid
We weren't there.
Jeff Lewis
I don't know. I was going through the main entrance, like taking pictures and shaking hands.
Gigi
Oh, my gosh.
Jeff Lewis
So were you.
Gigi
I usually run away. I go through the side. Even.
Jeff Lewis
She's not gonna tell us.
Gigi
I don't do the photos I get. I just.
Jeff Lewis
It was raining.
Reza Farahan
She was ducking down.
Mercedes Javid
Yeah. Who else smokes weed?
Gigi
I do.
Mercedes Javid
Who else from Bravo smokes weed? Or who were you generous to share your weed with? Heather.
Gigi
Heather Dubrow.
Mercedes Javid
Okay, Terry.
Jeff Lewis
Side entrance.
Gigi
Wait. Oh, shit. Oh, that's.
Jeff Lewis
Side entrance.
Gigi
I don't know what you guys saw. I'm going to shut up because I'm going to name all the people right now. Yeah.
Mercedes Javid
Who else from Atlanta? Who? East Coast. Who from the East Coast?
Gigi
Okay. I love K. So she and I were kind of, you know, Portia and I go back a little bit, so I don't know who else from who.
Mercedes Javid
A lot of you were with a lot of Orange county girls.
Gigi
Just Gretcher's.
Jeff Lewis
Oh, do you have to say it? Can we just say her name?
Mercedes Javid
Yeah, her name is Gretcher's.
Reza Farahan
That's what her name is.
Jeff Lewis
God, that's annoying.
Gigi
A character to me. She's very character.
Jeff Lewis
Gretchen. Gretchen.
Mercedes Javid
It's like she was trying to force a nickname.
Jeff Lewis
I don't think she was doing it. It was Emily that was doing it.
Mercedes Javid
It was the other one, Gina.
Jeff Lewis
Oh, well, then Emily picked it up, too.
Gigi
Outside, I got a very private tour of Slade's minivan that they drove all the way from Orange County.
Jeff Lewis
Why would you get in his minivan?
Gigi
I mean, I was tempted to see what's inside.
Jeff Lewis
Was it nice?
Gigi
It was very nice. What?
Jeff Lewis
Kind of.
Gigi
Very tricked out. And it got my business wheels turning because when he doesn't use it, he kind of does. Like an Airbnb concept where he rents it out and.
Jeff Lewis
I'm sorry, what?
Gigi
Yeah, yeah.
Jeff Lewis
It's like a party van.
Gigi
Yeah. Isn't that cool?
Jeff Lewis
No.
Gigi
What?
Jeff Lewis
It's weird. Who rents their car out?
Reza Farahan
They have a cool app for that. It's like airbnb Turo.
Jeff Lewis
That's a serious thing, a business.
Gigi
Yeah, yeah.
Reza Farahan
But I got scammed by them, so I don't support them. Actually don't use them. No, because I. When I was. When my car was in the shop once, I went to do it and I knocked on the address and I was like, hey, do you have the Honda Accord? They're like, I don't know what you're talking about. And I was like, what? And so I had Ubered all the way to the Valley to pick up the car, and they didn't know what I was talking about.
Jeff Lewis
That just seems like somebody wrecks it.
Gigi
Lamb squad. Everyone was in the car. So, like, she, you know, they didn't have to pay for extra things and, you know, cover costs for other things. So it's like the whole crew got.
Mercedes Javid
She's trying to say Bravo only covers travel for main talent.
Jeff Lewis
We should mention we have two pretty high level Bravo executives here right now, so. Continue.
Gigi
I love all my bosses. Let me just put that out there.
Jeff Lewis
Bianca in Houston, line three. Hi, Bianca.
Caller Bianca
Oh, yeah, hi. Sorry. Wait a minute. I just want to say to mj, because I wanted to say this for ages, but he's a bum and he always has been a bum. And you could tell that you do everything. I wouldn't feel bad because I feel like he's going to come out swinging. He's pretending to cry on Instagram and say all these things and to Me, I just feel like he's going to really come for you. And I think he should come for him.
Jeff Lewis
Nothing to lose.
Gigi
You're so confused. You don't even know what drink.
Mercedes Javid
Maggie.
Jeff Lewis
No, this is Bianca. No, this is Bianca.
Mercedes Javid
Oh, sorry, Bianca. You're saying, you're saying stay. Stay the way you are. Or you're saying I should.
Reza Farahan
No, she's saying act up.
Caller Bianca
Being too nice. You're being too nice. And he's going to come. He's from New York. He's going to come with all the bullshit. He's good like that. You can tell. He's schema. You need. He's a full on bum and I've seen it. You've been working while he does jack shit. Nothing.
Jeff Lewis
Thank you, Bianca.
Mercedes Javid
Shout out, thank you, Bianca. Slide into the DMs anytime.
Jeff Lewis
I wouldn't, I don't know about you, but I wouldn't be able to look myself in the mirror every morning if I could not support my family. Listen, and I love a mirror.
Mercedes Javid
Who's. Oh, a mirror.
Gigi
I think it's a very, It's. I don't know, it's.
Mercedes Javid
Let's, let's, let's let sleeping dogs lie.
Jeff Lewis
Maggie in Maryland. No. Maybe he'll second guest another podcast. Hi.
Mercedes Javid
I kind of did want to go toes with him on that, by the way. Yes. Hi, Maggie.
Jeff Lewis
Hi, Maggie.
Gigi
Hi.
Caller Bianca
Shout out, Gene.
Reza Farahan
Shout out, Maggie.
Gigi
Hi.
Caller Bianca
So I just wanted to say, like, you kept saying about, like the comments and you're worrying about the chumps. Listen, I saw like a clip of his and just like scrolled by, like, I didn't even like, give him the time of day when he started, like, when I realized what he was talking about. So, like, don't even look at the comments because those of us that love and support you aren't even watching.
Mercedes Javid
Wow. Thank you, Maggie, because you're welcome.
Caller Bianca
And I love you.
Mercedes Javid
I, I appreciate that. Honestly, like, you guys know I'm, I'm not like, ugh. I need, I need people to reinforce my, like, I'm. But this hurts. This is like a. This is my, my husband, the father of my child, somebody that I dedicated the last 10 years. I held us up and it's very, very painful.
Jeff Lewis
You mean someone that you supported and lied for.
Mercedes Javid
I mean, I don't like it when you paint it with that picture. Okay, sorry, but I'm just saying. I'm just saying that it's very painful. So I'm. It hurts to be, you know, manipulated and then have people go like, oh, where's, you know, Tommy, like, whatever they say, because it's all on. It's all on the comments under the podcast episode that he put out.
Gigi
So that it's definitely interesting for me as an outsider and I'm not gonna go deep on your stuff, but someone who didn't really want to film at all, did not want to be around any of me and my friends while we were filming. And then it was excited to get on a podcast and put this out there. Are you shying away from public or are you now using it just because it's going against her? Because before it was gonna help her if he were to be more around, if he were to be more in the picture, it would have helped her, it would have supported her and her stuff. But now he's ready to do that. And that's because it's not for you, it's for him.
Mercedes Javid
Yeah, like I've been. I think of it as if he's strong, I'm strong. If I'm strong, he's strong. If we're strong, Shamps is strong. I see us as a unit.
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Gigi
Tonight is going to be our first night to do the Elf on the Shelf. He's really excited.
Jeff Lewis
Oh, your elf is late. Mine arrived on the first.
Gigi
Oh, I know. I really wanted a black elf, so it took a minute for us to get our black elf.
Jeff Lewis
You found a black elf?
Gigi
Uh huh. I wanted a black elf.
Jeff Lewis
I would love a black elf. I don't know where to get a black elf.
Gigi
Right. It was a little tricky. We had to wait a little while. But our black elf should be there when I get home today from this radio show, so.
Jeff Lewis
Okay, so then the black elf will arrive tonight?
Gigi
Yes.
Jeff Lewis
And you already know where you're gonna put. Is it a he or a she?
Gigi
We'll see. Whatever Eli decides. Whatever Eli decides.
Jeff Lewis
Yeah. Mine is a they. Really? I don't even know. I can't tell. Androgynous for sure, but she has a little skirt now. But still, I don't know.
Gigi
Okay.
Jeff Lewis
I still don't know.
Reza Farahan
Thank you.
Jeff Lewis
But her name is. Or their name is Dory. So I assume that's not a female.
Gigi
Okay.
Mercedes Javid
Depends on what?
Gigi
The fish.
Reza Farahan
I don't even know.
Jeff Lewis
This is very progressive of you, Jeff. Thank you. Very impressive. Well, Gigi started it, so I just jumped on.
Reza Farahan
Oh, your elf.
Mercedes Javid
Elf is black.
Reza Farahan
Mine's transgender.
Jeff Lewis
Had to one up you, Gigi. But my elf has been going back to the North Pole each night for the last nine days. So this morning I got up, I moved her, and last night before we went to bed, it was funny because Monroe will speak to her and she'll be like, good night, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like. And I'm just like muttering in my breath. I'm like, you fucking kiss ass. And she's like, good night, Dory. See, I mean, she is turning it on. She's like a suck, you know, she's just suck ass. But yes, she's been turning it on every night. And like, thanking her. And you know what she did last night? She put a little bag next to Dory. And because we have Labubu accessories, so she gave Dory a Prada fanny pack and a Louis Vuitton bag and then something else. And then. But I'm like, shit, I spent like 30 bucks for each one of those and now it has to disappear because it had to go back to the North Pole.
Reza Farahan
I want to set her up tonight when we get home from Chop Miss. I'll set her up with the bag on.
Jeff Lewis
I threw them away this morning.
Mercedes Javid
What?
Jeff Lewis
I'll tell you why.
Mercedes Javid
Because she put it on the wall. What are you talking about? Get it out of the trash and then call her right Now. And tell her not to take the trash out and then bring it to.
Gigi
Give it to Monroe.
Jeff Lewis
All right, I know where it is. I know where it is. In the trash can. I can get it out of the trash. All right, so you want her carrying the bag? No, because she said, I want to give her these gifts. And we had this whole conversation, and I said, oh, I go. I guess she'll take them back to her apartment in the North Pole. And I go. And then I go, because, you know, she lives there 11 months out of the year. Like, I'm just an idiot. Like, shut up, Jeff. Like, I just, like, start to ramble. I get nervous. I get nervous, and then I start rambling.
Mercedes Javid
And. Why did you have to have. They have to have an apartment. Why can't they have a mansion?
Reza Farahan
You should have a single family home.
Gigi
No, it's a they.
Jeff Lewis
Then I honestly, I thought about a condo, like, in a full service building where she can lock it up and go. Because she's coming to my house for a month.
Mercedes Javid
She's a modern girl.
Jeff Lewis
Yeah, right.
Gigi
Maybe she.
Jeff Lewis
Maybe they can leave it on Christmas morning because, you know, they're going back.
Gigi
To winter, and these are spring summer accessories.
Jeff Lewis
Well, I figured they probably would want the maintenance of a pool and a gardener, so. Nice. Just lock up and go.
Gigi
Yeah.
Reza Farahan
What kind of bag? Is it a bag? She goes, or is it a summer?
Mercedes Javid
They live at the Versailles, the Hollywood.
Jeff Lewis
Versailles, that Shane's apartment building says. Yeah, it's really fancy.
Reza Farahan
You can ballet if you come to visit.
Gigi
It really is iconic.
Jeff Lewis
Now, when you were on the blue carpet at Bravo, you were a bit quiet, and I noticed that Reza and MJ were doing all the talking. Now, I'm gonna be honest with you. I thought, okay, well, I guess Reza and MJ should probably do all the press because they're doing all the talking. But mj, your theory was that Reza was pissing Gigi off.
Mercedes Javid
I know.
Gigi
So you gu. We really talk about everything in this podcast.
Mercedes Javid
We really do.
Reza Farahan
We really do.
Gigi
All right, I'm.
Jeff Lewis
It's a live radio show, by the way.
Gigi
All right, go ahead, Mars.
Mercedes Javid
So basically, our.
Jeff Lewis
She defended you.
Gigi
No, she might have left out what she defended you. Said to me right after the blue carpet.
Jeff Lewis
She defended you. Wait, I'm not trying to start.
Gigi
No, I know, because she was feeling the same way.
Mercedes Javid
So Julia Cunningham was talking on this show, Shout Out. Can't wait to slide into her DMs. She's house hunting. I'll find her a good deal. But I think that after being on for an hour, that you were irritated because Reza kept talking about your beef with Kristen and Kate. That's what my theory was.
Gigi
Mm.
Jeff Lewis
Why were you up? Were you upset on the blue carpet? Were you upset on the blue carpet?
Gigi
I think. Listen, Reza has, again, he has this very big light about him.
Jeff Lewis
He's a shit stir, though.
Gigi
He loves cameras, and he loves to, you know, bring it on. And I do rely on him quite a bit to have that energy, because I don't have it. But it was, to me, it was a little unnecessary. I'm at a very different place in my life. I made a big mistake with Brittany Cartwright. Is her last name Brittany Cartwright? I immediately emailed her and apologized to her. Very detailed apology. Just like, completely like, I'm so, so sorry for making this mistake.
Jeff Lewis
But what was the mistake? Oh, my God. Google that right now. What was the mistake?
Gigi
I thought she was announcing a pregnancy. It was a picture with her and her boyfriend in Mexico, and he was holding her belly from the back. And I've never seen anybody. Listen, I'm 44 years old. I've never seen a woman and a man post a picture like this. Like a getaway. You're by the ocean, and he's behind you, and he's cupping the belly. That's so bad. So I said, I, I, I. Listen, I've never gone after a woman's body. I'd never do that.
Jeff Lewis
Like. No, you weren't body shaming.
Gigi
I don't bash.
Jeff Lewis
So you told her. Congratulations.
Reza Farahan
The quote was no shade. But is she pregnant, too? I mean, she's holding her stomach, and it's definitely.
Gigi
I said the belly is bellying.
Jeff Lewis
Oh. Did you really think she was pregnant?
Gigi
100 did.
Jeff Lewis
Okay.
Gigi
I will die by that. That's why I apologize. Look at this.
Jeff Lewis
Okay. Who's that behind her?
Gigi
Her boyfriend or apparently someone.
Mercedes Javid
Now they're not together anymore.
Reza Farahan
Oh.
Gigi
Oh, okay.
Reza Farahan
Oh, not Luke. I'm.
Jeff Lewis
I believe you. I believe you.
Gigi
I didn't know, but Kristen had already reached out to me in a DM and was being very disrespectful and cursing and saying stuff that. I'm not the one to talk to you like that. So I think she sort of regrets not sticking up for Lala.
Jeff Lewis
You're terrible. Cause you're laughing. You're terrible.
Mercedes Javid
Kristin came in to rip her a new one, and. And it's like, you don't talk to Golnessa like that.
Gigi
It's like coming after 50 Cent. Who does that? Exactly. Who does that? Like, you know, so I saw her at Bravo Con day one, she was standing by the elevators. You know, we are all in the same hotel. And I walked straight to her face. And she turns around and I have the biggest smile on my face. I'm just like, hi. And she just turned around and walked away. I mean, she was just Kristen.
Mercedes Javid
Not Britney?
Gigi
No Kristen, No Brittany. I went up to. I was like, again, I'm sorry. You look amazing. You're gorgeous. I would never disrespect you, but I'm gonna kick your friend's ass. And I left it at that. I won't physically do anything. Let me put that legal out there. I'm not physically putting my hands on anybody, but kick your ass. Like, you know, verbally. Like, I'll mentally.
Mercedes Javid
Five minutes ago, she said, reza, you know, I'm new, I'm changed.
Gigi
I said, mentally kick his ass. And it's a Reza. The whole time, Loreza was like, she's got beef with my girl Kristen. It kept being like, okay, so Kristen was sticking up for her girl. Why aren't you sticking up for your girl?
Jeff Lewis
I see. So you were upset.
Gigi
I was getting offended because I wasn't responding to the people. I was like, no, there's no beef. And every reporter. What's going on? Does anyone have biblebritey beef? She's got beef with my girl Kristen. And I was like, oh, my God, here we go again. So at some point, I just shut up.
Jeff Lewis
I put my foot in my mouth all the time. I totally get it. I told Michael back. He just. He was the showrunner in southern hospitality and I guess one of the newer guys. I've never seen him. So Cynthia, when we were in the elevator, the door opened and Cynthia walked in with three dudes. And one was like a stylist and one was a hair. So I just assumed the other guy was part of her glam team. And so I'm like, oh, so you're part of Cynthia's glam? And he was like, visibly pissed off at me. Like it's some sort of insult that I mistook him for Cynthia's glam because he walked in with Cynthia and the other glam team. So I just assumed.
Mercedes Javid
But he's usually really good looking. Glam is usually.
Jeff Lewis
And he is.
Mercedes Javid
And so, yeah, the glam squad looks good. They look ready.
Reza Farahan
He was done up.
Jeff Lewis
He was way done up.
Reza Farahan
Yeah.
Jeff Lewis
Some of his. Doesn't it make sense?
Reza Farahan
Button up your shirt.
Jeff Lewis
What's his name? Ask Michael back.
Reza Farahan
Michaels. Is his name Michael Goals?
Jeff Lewis
Yeah.
Mercedes Javid
Now you can understand why Golnessa may have come off that way because she felt like Reza was saying, like, that's my girl, Christian. She's like, you know, doesn't it make sense?
Jeff Lewis
Yeah, it totally makes sense.
Reza Farahan
Well, he's not chop miss tonight. We can ask him.
Jeff Lewis
Oh, yeah, he's on stage.
Reza Farahan
They have your girls back this time at all times.
Mercedes Javid
Oh, oh.
Jeff Lewis
Shots fired.
Mercedes Javid
He called.
Gigi
No, I love Reza. I have his back. I love Reza.
Jeff Lewis
I have his back.
Gigi
He's a Leo. You guys get it. You guys are stars. You guys are always, you know, this.
Jeff Lewis
Light all the time.
Gigi
I don't have it.
Mercedes Javid
Clip.
Jeff Lewis
Okay. I really like EGI today.
Gigi
No, just listen. It was one of my biggest fears, honestly, coming back to the show was that potential because Reza and I, out of nine seasons, we didn't get along for eight and a half of those seasons. It was always Reza and the Shahs and then me on an island, you know, so it was a big, big fear that now that we're back on, you know, camera. Is my friend still going to be the person he has been the last five years, not the years before that? So I got a little scared, you know, seeing that, like instead of saying, hey, you know, yeah, they had some beef, but Colnessa went out of her way. She emailed Brittany, she apologized. I would have loved to have heard that, you know, instead of she's got beef with my girl Kristen.
Jeff Lewis
But I appreciate that you were accountable, that you apologized, that you said that you made a mistake. Do you think Elijah has softened you?
Gigi
Oh, I don't know. What do you think, Mass? Oh, yeah, of course you think so.
Mercedes Javid
You're a mummy, a mamacita.
Jeff Lewis
Because you do have this really sweet, soft side. I didn't see it the last time you were here. I think that you were. I'm glad you're here the second time because I think you were just got out of that relationship. You were pissed off at everybody and you came in angry and it just was that kind of thing.
Gigi
Well, yeah, that relationship was a little different because my friend at that time, Mike Shuhed's ex fiance, she was with me in Vegas when I got married and she was in bed with my man a week later after we got married and they got engaged two weeks after he and I got married. So I was very, very bitter about it. And I was just having a very hard time knowing how to discuss that dynamic because it was fucked up.
Jeff Lewis
Are you different with Elijah than you are with the rest of the world?
Gigi
I try to be like Soft. I'm not really. I wouldn't say I'm soft with him. I think I'm just understanding. Yeah, I'm very considerate and understanding with him and his time.
Jeff Lewis
I find myself with my kid very different than how I deal with the rest of the world. And last night I said something to her. I'm like, yeah, Daddy got mad and yelled. She goes, you know what, Daddy? You never yell at me. And I was like, I don't. And I was actually kind of surprised that, you know. And I'm like. And it made me think about over the last 12 hours. I'm like, yeah, I do kind of, like, soften when she walks in the room. And I'm just wondering because sometimes people that are really sensitive, like you, we have kind of, like tough, tough, tough exteriors and very confrontational and quick to defend ourselves. And I'm just curious if. I'm curious to see how you are with Elijah.
Gigi
Yeah. I don't know. Maris always compliments my relationship.
Mercedes Javid
First of all, she's the most amazing mother I have ever, ever encountered. I love watching her, the way that she interacts with him. And I said to her a couple weeks or less ago, I said, if I have any issues interacting or trying to discipline shams, I'm going to come over to your house and I'm going to observe you with Elijah. Because I have been able to do that over the last five years. She is amazing. She is not the Gigi from Shaws. She is an incredible mom. And just as you were soft with Monroe.
Jeff Lewis
Yeah, it's.
Mercedes Javid
It's an incredible gift that stands in its own lane.
Gigi
Thank you. That's the best compliment a parent can get.
Mercedes Javid
She knows that I feel that way all the time.
Jeff Lewis
It was. Do you remember that scene in Devil Wears Prada where she's just, like, tore off everybody's heads and then she's like, hey, baby. She gets on the phone. I'm like, oh, God. This is all too familiar. Also, another very important announcement we want to make. Is your poshmark back up and running?
Mercedes Javid
Oh, okay. So thank you to the chump that said it was a phishing scam and that they got the same notification. I'm so glad. Don't open anything. You guys. Don't ever click.
Reza Farahan
Don't even check your email.
Mercedes Javid
So remember when I told you anything that you don't want with tags on it, I can help sell for you? Yeah, it's like an ebay.
Reza Farahan
It's like an app for clothes and stuff.
Mercedes Javid
Yeah.
Jeff Lewis
Is it working now?
Mercedes Javid
I honestly need time to restock my poshmark. So over the holidays, maybe more of.
Jeff Lewis
Your overpriced hand me downs?
Mercedes Javid
Yeah, yeah. With tags. He's kidding. But the real is that when the. When we get the downtime, I'm gonna post a bunch of things so that I can, like, hard launch new.
Gigi
Just don't buy the Chanel. She and I got a fake Chanel bag in Turkey. Just putting that out there.
Jeff Lewis
Oh, my God. It's been on Poshmark. She already sold it.
Gigi
Just saying. We both have fake Chanel.
Mercedes Javid
Yeah, you can't sell anything that's not authenticated. And it's authentic.
Jeff Lewis
Okay. So I don't really know women's clothes and accessories that well. Is the Fendi baguette done? Because she's been trying to sell it for about a year for about $10,000 on her Poshmark.
Mercedes Javid
She just said, what is Poshmark?
Gigi
I. I know a Fendi is not Poshmark.
Mercedes Javid
Yeah, the Fendi baguette from Sarah Jesse.
Jeff Lewis
She's been trying to sell that for 10 grand.
Mercedes Javid
No.
Jeff Lewis
Yes, she has.
Gigi
No, that's not even in the store for ten grand.
Jeff Lewis
I know.
Mercedes Javid
You can't even.
Jeff Lewis
She thinks because she wore it, it's worth like three times as much.
Reza Farahan
That may make it iconic.
Mercedes Javid
You know what? You guys can cross check me. Go and try to find it somewhere else.
Reza Farahan
Find a better deal.
Mercedes Javid
I'm gonna be there tonight at the SVIP from 5 to 6, 6 to 7.
Jeff Lewis
The VVIP.
Mercedes Javid
VVIP.
Jeff Lewis
What's the SVIP do you know, do we have that.
Reza Farahan
Don't confuse people.
Jeff Lewis
Does not exist. No, we're here for the svip.
Mercedes Javid
Wait, so after the beautiful house that I'm gonna be hosting straight from here to Caravan Brokers open. What?
Jeff Lewis
Oh, what house are you hosting today?
Mercedes Javid
So it's 5003 Mammoth Avenue. And I'm thinking I'm gonna go straight to Orange county because you need to leave it too. Yeah.
Jeff Lewis
Oh, I'm gonna eat beforehand. Come join me too.
Mercedes Javid
Okay. I'm gonna directly go to.
Jeff Lewis
What time can you get in the car? After caravan, 2pm Perfect. Oh, perfect. So, okay. So you having an open house today?
Mercedes Javid
Yes.
Jeff Lewis
5003 Mammoth Avenue. What city?
Mercedes Javid
Sherman Oaks.
Jeff Lewis
Nice. Tell us about the listing.
Mercedes Javid
So anyone who has a large family. It's so gorgeous.
Jeff Lewis
Oh, it's brand new.
Mercedes Javid
A newer build. Beautiful. Near all the private schools and the great public schools. Gated, beautiful. Has an ADU. Wow.
Jeff Lewis
$4,200. Rent that out for extra income to help with the payment.
Mercedes Javid
Yeah. Do you know how easy it would be for someone to buy that and rent it out to families that want their kids in a good school?
Jeff Lewis
I mean, that looks like a great.
Mercedes Javid
Deal at 5003 Mammoth Avenue for asking prices, 3595. It's a really good price.
Gigi
I went there. It's gorgeous. I took pictures of all the rooms for Interior Design concepts. It was really gorgeous.
Jeff Lewis
Did you really?
Gigi
Yeah, I really did. Yes, I really did. The interior was really.
Mercedes Javid
Architectural Digest wants it.
Jeff Lewis
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Date: December 17, 2025
Host: Jeff Lewis (SiriusXM)
Guests: Golnesa “Gigi” Gharachedaghi, Mercedes “MJ” Javid, Reza Farahan (frequent interjector)
In this emotionally charged and candid episode, Jeff Lewis is joined by Shahs of Sunset alums Golnesa "Gigi" Gharachedaghi and Mercedes "MJ" Javid. The group delves into MJ's separation, the complexities of messy relationships, public scrutiny, co-parenting, and BravoCon escapades. From MJ’s vulnerable update on her divorce to Gigi’s honesty about social anxieties and motherhood, the episode exemplifies Jeff’s signature no-filter authenticity and the guests’ willingness to share all. Sprinkled throughout are witty quips, vulnerable admissions, and the irreverent banter that fans love.
Timestamp: 05:54 – 18:52; 24:45 – 28:31
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Timestamp: 01:55 – 03:29; 19:02 – 23:42
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Timestamp: 37:00 – 44:39
Timestamp: 04:03 – 05:53; 47:44 – End
The episode combines raw, vulnerable admissions (especially about divorce and co-parenting) with the trademark sassy, irreverent humor of Jeff’s universe. Listeners get a refreshingly honest look at the reality behind reality TV—where friendships, exes, motherhood, and public scrutiny painfully and sometimes hilariously overlap. Gigi’s growth and MJ’s struggle for dignity drive the episode, with Jeff, Reza, and the callers offering the tough love and support reality stars only rarely get in front of the cameras.
Recommended for listeners who appreciate real talk, empathy, and a peek behind the Bravo curtain.