
Heather McMahan, Jackie Schimmel, & Shane Douglas join Jeff Lewis in Los Angeles.
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Heather McMahon
When you're Jeff Lewis, the drama never stops.
Jeff Lewis
For the last is a decade, you've been covering disasters.
Heather McMahon
That's right. That's why he's here.
Jackie Schimmel
The math ain't mathing and the gay ain't gayin'.
Jeff Lewis
Later, you're gonna need to do maintenance.
Heather McMahon
Why?
Narrator/Advertiser
To be attractive. For who?
Jeff Lewis
Oh, for us.
Heather McMahon
Jeff Lewis has issues.
Jeff Lewis
Hey, it's Jeff Lewis and I have issues. In Today's episode, Heather McMahon and Jackie Schimmel join the show. We talk about kitchen sex cruise deaths and and ungrateful street musicians. Good morning, comedian. I think you're funny.
Jackie Schimmel
I mean, I'm hilarious, but I'm not a comedian.
Heather McMahon
How do you introduce yourself?
Jeff Lewis
I think you're funnier.
Jackie Schimmel
Just a great girl with a heart of gold.
Heather McMahon
Shut up.
Jeff Lewis
No, I think you're funnier than most comedians.
Jackie Schimmel
I mean, I totally agree with you.
Heather McMahon
Relax, all right?
Jeff Lewis
You're a lot funnier than Heather.
Jackie Schimmel
Listen, when you're right, you're right. But I can't claim comedian Heather McMahon.
Heather McMahon
You went on tour?
Jackie Schimmel
Yeah, but I live in dudes. I don't do stand up.
Shane Douglas
Were you sitting down for parts of it?
Heather McMahon
Yes.
Jeff Lewis
Heather, I'm surprised you made it because, I mean, you just kind of rolled in a few minutes ago, and I
Heather McMahon
am a very punctual person. So I apologize. I don't know what's going on with the rideshare situation here in the greater Los Angeles area. I had three Ubers cancel on me and then it was like a 20 minute wait.
Jeff Lewis
Give a shit rating.
Heather McMahon
No, my rating's perfect.
Jeff Lewis
My rating, Heather. Prove it.
Jackie Schimmel
Prove it.
Jeff Lewis
Prove it, Heather.
Jackie Schimmel
All right. You said it was perfect.
Heather McMahon
All right.
Jeff Lewis
I was worried, though. I. I was. When I heard about the Spirit Airlines bankruptcy, I thought, is Heather going to make it? Were they able to rebook you?
Heather McMahon
4.91.
Jackie Schimmel
That's disgusting.
Heather McMahon
And I'll show you. That's on Uber. Let's look at my lift. You know what? I hate you all. And on there. Where's the radio?
Jackie Schimmel
Oh, see, she's filibustering.
Heather McMahon
I just shut it up. It's perfect. Tier 2. I. How do you find it?
Jeff Lewis
I think you're looking at Jeff's rating.
Heather McMahon
Yeah.
Jackie Schimmel
What's yours?
Jeff Lewis
I don't know, Shane. Look it up.
Jackie Schimmel
Oh, I don't know mine either. I'm scared, Shane.
Jeff Lewis
Look it up.
Jackie Schimmel
Now, in my defense, when I was living in London, I had to cancel a lot of Ubers because they're so slow there.
Jeff Lewis
Yeah, I do cancel a lot, and that could affect my rating.
Shane Douglas
Mine. Okay, mine is 4.9. That's.
Jeff Lewis
I get impatient and I cancel.
Shane Douglas
So that 4.91.
Jackie Schimmel
What?
Jeff Lewis
Okay, that's surprising to me.
Heather McMahon
My lift rating is a 5.0.
Narrator/Advertiser
You're just.
Jackie Schimmel
You're a sick bitch.
Jeff Lewis
I can't look that up because I don't take Lyft.
Heather McMahon
Oh, you don't?
Jackie Schimmel
I don't either. I don't have Lyft.
Jeff Lewis
I'm so poor.
Shane Douglas
I'm 5.0 on Lyft.
Jackie Schimmel
Also, I'm a 4.7 poor on Uber. Not great.
Heather McMahon
Wait, you don't take Lyft? Cause it's so poor. I love that.
Jeff Lewis
Yeah, no, it can't.
Heather McMahon
Well, I used to because it was connected to the Delta Reserve credit card, so I was getting triple the miles. But that also shows that I'm so poor that I want the miles.
Jeff Lewis
So did you fly? Like, what did you do? They rebooked you on Frontier.
Heather McMahon
Oh, yeah. When Spirit shut down. Let me tell you why I was not okay with that. No, shut up. I have the highest status at Delta, okay? I'm at 360. I was invited to a prestigious club that you have to get invited to.
Jeff Lewis
Wait, 360,000 miles?
Heather McMahon
No, I'm a million miles, honey.
Shane Douglas
It's something you wouldn't even know about.
Jeff Lewis
What is this Delta360?
Heather McMahon
Delta360.
Jeff Lewis
I don't even know what that is.
Shane Douglas
It's a tier above anything you've heard of.
Heather McMahon
Anything. It's a secret club. Like, I'm talking. You you drink the adrenochrome. It's like, you know, it's a part of the Illuminati ritual. It's the whole thing.
Jackie Schimmel
Didn't they send you custom sneakers?
Heather McMahon
I got custom sneakers.
Jackie Schimmel
Which are disgusting, by the way.
Jeff Lewis
From Delta.
Heather McMahon
Yeah. Now, here's the thing. It was a big deal that I got invited in because a lot of the people that get invited in are like, you know, they have, like, corporate cards. I spent all this money, just me, myself, you know, running around, telling dick jokes across America. So I feel like it was about time that they gave it to me. A single, you know, L.L.C. s Corp. Owner of Absolutely Not Productions. Cause I'm, you know, I'm in, like, this group with all these, like, guys who, like, basically run Home Depot. They're all C suite people. And I was like, I'm spending the same amount of money and don't get to write off half this shit.
Jeff Lewis
Why do I not? Because we use all of our miles, don't we? No, but I feel like we're constantly using our miles to buy shit.
Shane Douglas
Yeah, that's true.
Heather McMahon
It has nothing to do with miles. It's how much money you spend with that airline and, like, your loyalty.
Jeff Lewis
We're not that loyal.
Heather McMahon
Yeah, I'm wildly loyal. Hard, hardcore.
Jeff Lewis
No.
Heather McMahon
Yeah. I had a cat named Delta. Like, that's. I bleed out for the brand.
Jeff Lewis
You named your cat?
Heather McMahon
Yeah. And I would. If I ever have a daughter, I would also name her Delta. Yes. I love Delta.
Jeff Lewis
You need to be an ambassador for Delta.
Jackie Schimmel
I am.
Heather McMahon
I basically am. I am spreading the good word, I have to say.
Jeff Lewis
Those Spanx bras.
Heather McMahon
Uhhuh. Got it on now.
Jeff Lewis
That was one of the hottest pictures I've ever seen of you.
Heather McMahon
Thank you.
Jeff Lewis
It was.
Heather McMahon
Can I tell you?
Jeff Lewis
Took a long time to get that.
Heather McMahon
Took a long time to get that. I played the long game of Spanx, and then I started a hemorrhaging period that morning, and I'm literally, like, naked under the robe. And I was like, this could not be a worse day than to. To try and shoot a lingerie.
Jeff Lewis
Does Jeff even give a shit? Did he see it?
Heather McMahon
Oh, yeah, he loved it.
Jeff Lewis
Oh, okay.
Heather McMahon
Yeah. He wanted me to show it'd be more provocative.
Jeff Lewis
Yeah.
Heather McMahon
He was like, you know. Oh, yeah, I.
Jeff Lewis
It is. You look good.
Heather McMahon
Yeah.
Jeff Lewis
You're never gonna look that good again.
Heather McMahon
No. Ever. And I had, like, three tampons in that day. I was corked up, you know, I was like an old bottle of Barolo trying to keep it fresh. It wasn't Good.
Jeff Lewis
Wow.
Heather McMahon
Yeah.
Jeff Lewis
Okay, now here we go.
Heather McMahon
After that. Yeah. Jackie and I did some stuff together. We've been working. We just did a campaign together and
Jeff Lewis
it was for wise beauty.
Heather McMahon
Yeah, yeah, we love.
Jeff Lewis
Yeah.
Jackie Schimmel
It was fun.
Heather McMahon
We had so much fun. But I'll tell you what. There's nothing better than doing a day of work with Jackie. Because when she's done and she's wrapped.
Jackie Schimmel
Oh, it's a wrap.
Heather McMahon
It's a wrap.
Jeff Lewis
How much do you love Lynn?
Heather McMahon
Oh God.
Jackie Schimmel
Live laugh. Lynn. What?
Jeff Lewis
Love Lynn. We went on a influencer trip to Cabo, Jackie and I and Lynn was on our. Was on our plane.
Jackie Schimmel
She's like the sweetest woman of all time.
Heather McMahon
She's just hearty.
Jeff Lewis
She's cool.
Jackie Schimmel
She is cool.
Jeff Lewis
Just. Yeah. Easy.
Heather McMahon
Easy.
Jackie Schimmel
Yes.
Jeff Lewis
Easy to talk to. I dumped Trauma. Dumped on her. That poor thing.
Heather McMahon
We did too. Did you really?
Jackie Schimmel
Oh yeah.
Heather McMahon
In between takes I was like, Lynn, just read my aura, Lyn. See, she's like.
Jackie Schimmel
Put her hands on me.
Heather McMahon
Lynn.
Jackie Schimmel
Yeah.
Heather McMahon
At one point she was like, I'm not. I'm not a soothsayer. Like I can't see the future. I don't know what's wrong with you.
Jeff Lewis
Oh, speaking of see the future, you saw Scary Sherry.
Heather McMahon
I did.
Jackie Schimmel
I saw scary Sherry.
Jeff Lewis
I wasn't.
Shane Douglas
I wasn't.
Jackie Schimmel
Okay. Scary Sherry is his. I know.
Jeff Lewis
Psychic.
Jackie Schimmel
Psychic. Oh, okay. The woman before me, by the way, I went to Liotte's house. The woman who saw her before me walked out in shambles.
Jeff Lewis
Yeah. She doesn't hold back.
Jackie Schimmel
No, she does not. Like I was like, oh my God, maybe this is going to fuck up my Friday. I have like a whole day plan to see the Devil Wears Prada. I was going to get some sushi. I'm like, this is not what I was anticipating. And I had a pretty good reading. It was like lots of good news.
Jeff Lewis
That's great.
Jackie Schimmel
Good things.
Jeff Lewis
It's not always that way. So that's good.
Heather McMahon
Any bad?
Narrator/Advertiser
Not really.
Jackie Schimmel
Fantastic.
Jeff Lewis
Here's the thing though. Timeframes are always off. But she's accurate. But she's accurate about what's coming. But she's always wrong on the timeframe. Just so you know. Well, not always, but sometimes she'll say like within three weeks this is gonna happen and something happens. But she tends to be a murky when it comes to the timeframes.
Caller/Brittany
Okay.
Jackie Schimmel
That's what Liotte told me. She told me that Andrew's gonna have a life changing year and if I want to stop working, I can stop working.
Heather McMahon
Oh, God. Can I go see?
News Reporter
Are you gonna start?
Jackie Schimmel
I was like, okay, great. Bye.
Jeff Lewis
No, a lot of times I will go. And then she'll start reading people that are around me. So when I was there, I was like, thanks a lot, Shane. I got a 15 minute reading on you.
Shane Douglas
It was all about me. Sorry.
Jeff Lewis
And it was some personal shit that I had no knowledge of. And I'm like, hey, this is what she said. And she was a thousand percent accurate.
Shane Douglas
She's good.
Jackie Schimmel
She was tapping in my sister a little bit. Haven't made that.
Jeff Lewis
Really call.
Jackie Schimmel
Oh, yeah. Great news for me, bad news for my sister.
Jeff Lewis
Oh, really?
Jackie Schimmel
Haven't called her yet.
Heather McMahon
Yeah.
Jackie Schimmel
And avoiding her.
Heather McMahon
I love her. I want to call her. I want to know.
Jeff Lewis
We've never really given out Sherry's number. Should we just do that?
Jackie Schimmel
You're going to give it out?
Jeff Lewis
Why not?
Jackie Schimmel
I don't know.
Jeff Lewis
Just text her if you want a reading.
Shane Douglas
No, they'll spam her.
Jackie Schimmel
That feels like a bad idea.
Shane Douglas
Send me a DM if you want me to hook you up with her.
Jeff Lewis
Okay. Because I don't want to respond to all those DMs.
Shane Douglas
Just send me a DM.
Jeff Lewis
Send. Okay. What's your Instagram?
Shane Douglas
Shane Douglas.
Jeff Lewis
Okay.
Shane Douglas
I'm like, cute pics of me.
Jeff Lewis
I saw her. I think I saw her Sunday.
Jackie Schimmel
You did?
Jeff Lewis
Yeah.
Jackie Schimmel
Did she mention me? Just kidding.
Jeff Lewis
You might come up in the next one. You never know. One time she talked about Mercedes.
Heather McMahon
Really? Really?
Jeff Lewis
Yeah. Because I've been. I was hanging out with Mercedes a lot and she read Mercedes and Reza.
Jackie Schimmel
Whoa.
Heather McMahon
But even when they're not there.
Jeff Lewis
Yes.
Heather McMahon
Interesting.
Jeff Lewis
Yep.
Heather McMahon
Like, you have to send a message to your friend Mercedes.
Jeff Lewis
I had to call Reza and Mercedes.
Jackie Schimmel
Oh, my God. I'm having a. I'm having a that's so Raven moment. She did say.
Heather McMahon
Oh, no.
Jeff Lewis
Heather McMahon.
Jackie Schimmel
She said that me and one of my very, very good friends. That could be you. Yeah. Are gonna start a company together and it will be very successful. So it's obviously us.
Heather McMahon
It's us.
Jackie Schimmel
Who else would it be?
Heather McMahon
It's just us.
Jackie Schimmel
I'm not even making that up. I fought for God.
Jeff Lewis
But you two are not. Not that driven.
Jackie Schimmel
No, Heather is.
Jeff Lewis
Oh, you are.
Heather McMahon
Back the fuck up real quick. Okay. I almost walked here. All right. No, I'm very driven and I have to push her.
Jeff Lewis
Yes. Push, pull, carry.
Heather McMahon
She'll be in a wheelchair. Like we're gonna grow old together and she'll be in a wheelchair and we'll be living on Miami Beach.
Jeff Lewis
But you have to do all the work.
Heather McMahon
But I have to do all the work.
Jackie Schimmel
She'll be pushing me around. I'll be wearing adorable shoes.
Heather McMahon
She'll still be thin and be able to wear all the couture. And I'll be in a nurse's outfit, pissed. But I'll be the richest one. It is what it is.
Jeff Lewis
She's a pillow princess.
Heather McMahon
Yes.
Jackie Schimmel
So true.
Heather McMahon
Wait. This is exciting because we've been talking about this for a long, long time.
Jeff Lewis
What company you starting?
Shane Douglas
What are you going to do?
Heather McMahon
I don't know. I have a couple ideas, but I don't want to. I. I don't think we throw them out there yet.
Jackie Schimmel
We don't.
Heather McMahon
We. Yeah, we're going to work on it. We're going to workshop it.
Shane Douglas
Protect it.
Heather McMahon
Protect it.
Jackie Schimmel
Scary. Sherry endorsed it. I totally forgot.
Jeff Lewis
We got to workshop it. Let's do it now. You live in Atlanta, correct?
Heather McMahon
I sure do.
Jeff Lewis
And you bought a huge Georgian mansion.
Heather McMahon
Yes. And. Yeah.
Jeff Lewis
How many square feet?
Heather McMahon
I think it's about 7,500.
Jeff Lewis
Okay.
Heather McMahon
800. Eight. I don't know, actually. I got a saltwater pool. That's the only thing I care about.
Jackie Schimmel
Yeah, it's gorgeous.
Heather McMahon
But also, I'm in Atlanta. It's a different ballgame, you know?
Jackie Schimmel
Now, excuse me. Stop undermining your.
Jeff Lewis
No. Atlanta's expensive.
Jackie Schimmel
It's expensive and it's gorgeous. Don't do that thing.
Heather McMahon
Okay, fine. But I will say, cannot afford to furnish it right now. I told Jackie, she was like, heather, don't be house poor. I'm like, I think I did that thing because now I'm starting to furnish and I've fully panicked. Like, it's not great.
Jeff Lewis
Was there. Did you have to remodel?
Heather McMahon
No. No remodeling. That's why I. I pulled the trigger on it. I walked in, I said, we'll take it.
Jeff Lewis
Yeah. Okay. And then how long have you owned it?
Heather McMahon
I've owned it since December. But the people who we bought it from are renting it back to us. So we move in in June.
Jeff Lewis
June. And are you helping her?
Jackie Schimmel
I'm an interior consultant.
Heather McMahon
Yes.
Jeff Lewis
No. You know, she has, as you know, very expensive taste.
Heather McMahon
Yes. But this is why I'm friends with Jacqueline, because she will. We will high low.
Jeff Lewis
It's.
Jackie Schimmel
We're high lowing.
Jeff Lewis
You're going to high low. Okay, good.
Heather McMahon
High lowing it.
Jeff Lewis
Okay.
Heather McMahon
I'm.
Jeff Lewis
She's also very high design. And what that means is, in 24 months, you're going to have to get new furniture because it's like, you know, it's. It's very tasteful, but it's the latest trends and all of that. She follows all those trends. So you're going to have to, you know, redo it all soon.
Heather McMahon
Well, we've been picking out of a lot of Italian antiques, so there's Murano. Yeah, a lot of Murano. I'm going to Italy in a couple of weeks to go find the Murano, touch the Murano, feel the Murano, sniff the Murano ship.
Jeff Lewis
The Murano, Yeah.
Heather McMahon
But I was deep on TikTok, where I found, like, all the wholesalers for, like, restoration hardware and all that, so
Jackie Schimmel
I went, oh, you're divulging this. Okay.
Heather McMahon
Okay. So I've been whatsapping my plug over in Foshan China, and I'm sending the links to Jackie, and she's like, I don't know how I feel about that.
Jackie Schimmel
I want her to be the guinea pig, so I'm letting her do it. And she swears that it's the same thing as restoration hardware. I'm not seeing it now.
Heather McMahon
I will say the closing of the Strait of Hormuz has really messed up my tariff situation.
Shane Douglas
She's like, can you drive the ship around?
Heather McMahon
Can you drive the ship around? Like, can you put it on a crate? Go the other way. Somebody. I've got to get this crate of, like, outdoor patio furniture stat. But hopefully, I don't know, we'll see if it happens.
Shane Douglas
Absolutely not.
Jackie Schimmel
But if it works, straight up Hormuz, Great.
Jeff Lewis
Wait, so you're gonna have to. A house that big, you're gonna be spending hundreds of thousands of dollars furnishing?
Jackie Schimmel
Yeah, it's big.
Heather McMahon
Well, you're gonna see some ads that I'm about to crank out, and you'll understand why.
Jeff Lewis
Yep. Shoes, bras.
Heather McMahon
Oh, no, Delta, I'm talking pharmaceuticals.
Jackie Schimmel
Yeah. We gotta talk bigger here.
Heather McMahon
I will do. Listen, I've been actively trying to sill monistat anything.
Jeff Lewis
Yeah, the.
Heather McMahon
The nittier, the grittier, the more uncomfortable. Please send it my way. I'm happy to do it. So I can get a nice chaise lounge for my walk in closet.
Jeff Lewis
And a lot of people are not willing to do that, so it's good that you're putting that out there.
Heather McMahon
Listen, I. I very much so like people that I find iconic in my life are like a Lisa Ren and a Joan Rivers, and they would do anything. You good? Jackie just fell down.
Jeff Lewis
She just fell about 4ft down in the chair. What happened? Jackie?
Shane Douglas
She tried to do a subtle adjustment, and it Was not so subtle.
Jeff Lewis
Now, do you not have any furniture to take to that new house?
Heather McMahon
I'm taking a couple bits. But, you know, my husband and I lived with my mother.
Jeff Lewis
I know Robin.
Heather McMahon
And Robin has insane taste. And so she. And I didn't want to, like, take things from her. I furnished that house with her. But I'm taking a couple chairs, Some gorgeous chairs.
Jeff Lewis
What happened to Robin?
Heather McMahon
Robin's staying there.
Jeff Lewis
In her mansion.
Heather McMahon
In her mansion. And then if she decides in like two years that she doesn't want to do that, we can sell that one. And we have plenty of room for her in our new home. But, you know, like, listen, I'd like to have a kid maybe in the next year. And if I'm going to do that, I need to be able to have sex at home. And I'm still having sex about four doors down from my mom right now. So. It was time. It was time. Yeah, it was time.
Jeff Lewis
Okay, so you want to be spontaneous, and if you're in the kitchen and it's okay. Yeah, you can't do that with Robin home.
Heather McMahon
You can't do that with Robin home. But we are not abandoning Robyn. She's 15 minutes down the road. But it was time.
Jeff Lewis
Now Robin is going to take care of this big house by herself.
Heather McMahon
Yeah, she will.
Jeff Lewis
But what if she just downsizes into like a nice townhouse?
Heather McMahon
You don't know Robyn. Okay? When my father.
Jeff Lewis
I don't know Robin.
Heather McMahon
You don't know Robin. When my father died and my husband, I were living in New York City, we came down, we were like, robin, sell the house, right? And she can't differentiate between downsizing and downgrading. And our house is like a brick Georgia house that was built well. And then you go into these, like, expensive townhomes and everything's plastic and bullshit.
Jackie Schimmel
So she.
Heather McMahon
No, she's not moving. Are you kidding me? You can't take the queen out of the castle.
Jackie Schimmel
No.
Jeff Lewis
And how big is Robin's mansion?
Heather McMahon
It's about the same size.
Jeff Lewis
God, that's a lot of house for one person.
Heather McMahon
I know. I would love for her to sell it. But we'll see. We'll see. I don't want. I didn't want her to feel like she had to make a choice.
Jackie Schimmel
So much change.
Jeff Lewis
The other thing that you have to think about is maintaining the home. So now you're gonna need probably a full time housekeeper.
Heather McMahon
Absolutely. But I'm weird.
Jeff Lewis
Do you have someone?
Heather McMahon
No, I have no one. I don't have a housekeeper.
Jeff Lewis
I need the full kitten Caboodle is ziprecruiter in Georgia.
Shane Douglas
Yeah.
Jeff Lewis
No, I swear I found a lot of people from ZipRecruiter and use my code. No, seriously, I have, I use it.
Heather McMahon
Well then I'll do that because we had used a service in Atlanta and got a housekeeper a couple years ago and it was the wildest ride of my life. Like it was one of those, it just, it really took us for a wild ride.
Jeff Lewis
Do you have pets?
Heather McMahon
Do I, I do. I have two French bulldogs that will maul your children and bite your ankles.
Jeff Lewis
We have, there is a housekeeper hack that I was just, I just figured out that's been going on for months. So what they do is they go, we're gonna walk Toby.
Heather McMahon
Okay.
Jeff Lewis
And I thought, oh, that's nice. They're gonna get Toby out. But even though Toby's going to school, you know, daycare, and then I take him on a 40 minute walk. But okay, so then it goes from one walk to two walks to three walks to four walks a day. One walk could be 35 minutes. They're walking the dog so they don't have to clean.
Jackie Schimmel
Yeah, smart.
Jeff Lewis
And I just figured it out. And so now on Saturday, Maria is the one that takes the longest walks. The longest walk that I have timed is 35 minutes for a dog that goes to daycare every day and runs around for six hours and then walks with me for 40 minutes.
Heather McMahon
Right.
Jeff Lewis
So on Saturday, and you don't know this Shane, she was in the kitchen, she walks in and she's like, oh, I'm gonna take Toby for a walk. And I go, no, don't worry about it, I'm gonna do it. And she just did not know what to say or do you.
Jackie Schimmel
She wanted that vitamin D. She wanted the break.
Jeff Lewis
Uh huh.
Jackie Schimmel
Wow, Smart.
Jeff Lewis
And then Aurora today, she goes, oh, I was gonna walk Toby. And I go, no, it's okay, he's going to school today. And I said, and by the way, I noticed while I'm in Rose playroom that no one's cleaning underneath the furniture.
Heather McMahon
I said, I said, doing a white glove test.
Jeff Lewis
I said, every month we're gonna be moving furniture and we're gonna be cleaning underneath it and we're gonna be taking things out of cabinets. I said, I'm not gonna live in that dirt again. Because when I moved out of my old house. Just moved out a week ago, Heather. It was filthy. No, disgusting.
Heather McMahon
Unacceptable.
Jackie Schimmel
Oh, and he's got a full operation over at his house. Yeah.
Heather McMahon
Oh, I'm sure you do.
Jeff Lewis
So now Monica Got promoted yesterday from house manager to estate manager.
Heather McMahon
Oh, estate.
Jackie Schimmel
God, tingles everywhere.
Heather McMahon
Yes, I prefer villa manager, but I'm also into estate.
Jackie Schimmel
Estate is sexy.
Jeff Lewis
She's going from two days a week to three days a week, but it's a lot of responsibility and no more compensation.
News Reporter
Wow.
Heather McMahon
Okay.
Jackie Schimmel
Sounds like a great deal.
Shane Douglas
That's how these promotions go.
Heather McMahon
Yeah. I like.
Jeff Lewis
Okay, Cruz. Absolutely not Cruz.
Heather McMahon
Absolutely not Cruz.
Jeff Lewis
Now the first one. Huge success.
Heather McMahon
Crazy success. So much fun.
Jeff Lewis
Okay, but you had a ton of talent.
Heather McMahon
Yeah.
Jeff Lewis
Like a ridiculous roster of talent.
Heather McMahon
Right?
Jeff Lewis
You think you're gonna do that with just Jackie Schimmel?
Heather McMahon
I don't feel confident about it at all. But Jackie was the number one most requested diva to come aboard. Now, I called Jackie. I was.
Jackie Schimmel
I remember the day, the time I was at a Trader Joe's pilfering over Spanakopita.
Heather McMahon
Literally. Folks have asked me, like, did you put a gun to her head? I'm like, pretty much. And I said, jackie, just cut the bullshit. Like, just do this with me.
Jackie Schimmel
She cold called me in the middle of the day and basically was like, hey, how are you? I'm like, is this about the fucking cruise? I knew it. Two seconds. I could tell in, like, the decibel of her voice. It was sweet. It was coming to me, like, in a moment. And I'm like, is this. This about the cruise? She's like, well, yeah, and you don't have to go, but it would be really important. The way she prefaced it was very deeply manipulative, you know?
Heather McMahon
Also, you're going to be financially compensated.
Jackie Schimmel
This is true.
Heather McMahon
So I don't want to hear it.
Jackie Schimmel
It's not like a make a wish.
Jeff Lewis
Well.
Heather McMahon
Well, yeah.
Jeff Lewis
She took the whole budget, probably.
Heather McMahon
Yeah, she did. And that. And people are angry that I don't have room to bring other, like, people. And I said, sorry, call Ms. Schimmel Haas.
Jeff Lewis
It's so funny. Cause we're gonna be doing a couple live shows coming up. First one in San Francisco on July 30th. July 30th. And tickets will go on sale tomorrow. I thought about bringing you to a live show. I can't afford you.
Caller/Brittany
Oh.
Jackie Schimmel
I'll do anything to leave the family. I love San Francisco.
Jeff Lewis
I can't afford you. You say that now.
Heather McMahon
You got a quick six figs. You know,
Jackie Schimmel
it's one day.
Jeff Lewis
She's gonna take your entire furniture budget.
Heather McMahon
I am. Jackie is just.
Jackie Schimmel
She's living in a roller rink. Really?
Jeff Lewis
No more chaise lounge, no more outdoor furniture. Nothing.
Jackie Schimmel
That's why she's outsourcing her sofa.
Heather McMahon
I will slee on a beach towel. If it means that Jackie Schimmel is on the absolutely not cruise, I'm coming. I really, honestly, it's only for just my sick pleasure of watching her just panic on the lido deck. I'm like, they're not. There's no birds out at sea. Just so you know.
Jeff Lewis
Yes, there is. When you dock, there are. Oh, sorry.
Heather McMahon
Shut up.
Jackie Schimmel
I know, by the way, a lot of birds sending me photos of themselves on cruises with birds.
Jeff Lewis
A lot of birds. A lot of birds. Bird magnet.
Jackie Schimmel
And the amount of. By the way, the amount of messages I'm getting from strangers being like, rogue waves, hepatitis breaks, all these things that happen on cruise ships.
Jeff Lewis
We were reading about that yesterday.
Shane Douglas
They're stuck out there right now.
Jeff Lewis
Three people died on that cruise and one person really sick.
Heather McMahon
Guys, get your tickets@heather.com. it's gonna be a great weekend.
Jeff Lewis
When is it coming up? Okay, so it's 2027.
Heather McMahon
Yeah. And you can get your tickets@heatherc.com. when is it gonna be fun? It's May, I think, second through seventh next year.
Jackie Schimmel
We're one year away.
Jeff Lewis
All right, how much does it set us back? Sorry, what's it gonna set me back? I wanna buy a package.
Heather McMahon
I have. I have. It's. You can afford it. That's all you need to know. No, there's. We have everything.
Jeff Lewis
Can I afford the alcohol package?
Heather McMahon
Yes, you can afford the alcohol package. You know what's so funny about, like, our followers is that the most expensive rooms go first. I mean, I have people fighting on a wait list for, like, the ultra suite, and it's the interior rooms that. That those are the hard ones.
Jeff Lewis
And we don't care that they're putting it on eight credit cards.
Heather McMahon
No, we don't care that they're putting it on eight credit cards. No.
Jeff Lewis
Look at that. And it's gonna take them 20 years to pay it back. If they even pay it back.
Jackie Schimmel
Not our problem.
Heather McMahon
I'm gonna be doing that, so. Are you kidding me? I'm opening a Pottery Barn credit card
Jeff Lewis
this afternoon, so I would recommend you use all of your cards.
Heather McMahon
Yeah.
Jeff Lewis
You book the premium package on Heather's. Absolutely not Cruise, get the alcohol package, then file bankruptcy.
Heather McMahon
Right, File bankruptcy. But if you're lucky, you will watch Jackie Schimmel barf over the litotech while birds peck her eyes out. So I think for that experience alone, priceless. It's priceless.
Jackie Schimmel
Priceless.
Jeff Lewis
Now you're gonna have her on the
News Reporter
Second hantavirus case confirmed after death on cruise ship
Heather McMahon
hours ago.
Jackie Schimmel
I'm so excited.
Jeff Lewis
Seriously, how many deaths now?
News Reporter
I think that's three. Two deaths. Three deaths and a virus.
Heather McMahon
Can I ask where the ship was coming from? I don't know.
Jeff Lewis
It was going from Miami to the Bahamas.
Heather McMahon
Shut up. I think they're in. My publicist is going to be so pissed right now. No. Where were they? What part of the world?
News Reporter
They're in Europe right now.
Jackie Schimmel
Okay.
Shane Douglas
It's Dutch. Yeah. Dutch cruise.
Jeff Lewis
But if you don't want to get sick, you have to buy the premium package.
Heather McMahon
You have to buy the premium package. If you don't want to get sick, you have to consume so much alcohol on the ship that it just kills.
Jeff Lewis
And I think. I think what you do is you pass out for the people that spend the real money. Ginger shots.
Heather McMahon
I think it's a great idea.
Jackie Schimmel
Gorgeous.
Jeff Lewis
Yeah.
Heather McMahon
You know, we'll have IV stations. Something that was on the last cruise is because there were no children, we took out the kids club and we have like a nurses station where you can get IVs and all your wellness.
Jeff Lewis
Fine. So you. Fine.
Heather McMahon
I've thought of everything.
Jeff Lewis
You have an infirmary. It's fine. That's all you need?
Heather McMahon
Yeah. So that's a year away. I mean, it'll pass. It'll pass.
Jeff Lewis
Yeah, it's fine. Go ahead.
Shane Douglas
This too shall pass.
Jeff Lewis
Call in and make your deposit, please. How many people could go on this cruise?
Heather McMahon
I think like 1600. We did get a bigger boat. Yeah, 2000 maybe.
Jeff Lewis
Uh huh.
Heather McMahon
And I think right now we're at like 60% sold, so. And that's just in the first week, so it's gonna sell out.
Jeff Lewis
You know that she over there used to work on a cruise ship.
Heather McMahon
Really?
News Reporter
And she. Her first cruise ship was the Norwegian Jewel, which she'll be sailing on.
Heather McMahon
Oh my gosh.
Jeff Lewis
You've gotta go.
News Reporter
I know. I've survived 14 months at sea over the years.
Jeff Lewis
Wow.
Heather McMahon
Once you cruise and you become a cruiser, it's truly the most fun ever.
Jeff Lewis
Is that where you got your nickname?
News Reporter
Pass around? Party Bottom? I'll never tell. What happens at sea stays at sea.
Jackie Schimmel
That's a.
Heather McMahon
That's a yes.
Jeff Lewis
Yeah, I thought so. But maybe that was when you got that nickname.
News Reporter
Yeah, maybe.
Jeff Lewis
How old were you then?
News Reporter
I was in my late 20s, 30s. Yeah.
Jeff Lewis
By the way, have you weighed yourself since your trip?
News Reporter
No, I won't weigh myself until Friday. Fridays are weigh days.
Jeff Lewis
Oh, oh, just Friday?
News Reporter
Just Friday. I don't do it every day like you do.
Jackie Schimmel
It.
News Reporter
I went home to see my family, so I ate a lot, which is fine. I can eat a lot. It's fine.
Heather McMahon
So why Friday, though? Because you think that the rest of the week's gonna level it out?
News Reporter
Cause I'm terrible on the weekends, and then I'm good during the week, so, like, I have a very strict diet during the week. I eat pretty clean because I'm also here, and I have to. I have an upset.
Jeff Lewis
Ibs.
News Reporter
So then. But then I binge on the weekends.
Heather McMahon
Great.
News Reporter
Probably unhealthy, actually.
Jeff Lewis
That's what everybody does. Doesn't everybody do that?
News Reporter
Yeah, I indulge.
Jeff Lewis
I indulge during the week. And then also the weekend.
Jackie Schimmel
Yeah, same.
Heather McMahon
I'm usually eating chicken tenders over a trash can in the back of some dark theater. It's disgusting.
Jeff Lewis
See, this is why you don't want children, because what's gonna happen is they don't eat all their food.
Heather McMahon
Yeah.
Jeff Lewis
And then you take it over to the sink and it's. And it's staring at you, even though I had a full entree already. But then there's chicken tenders sitting there.
Jackie Schimmel
You can't say no, okay? My little fat fuck will eat anything out of a sewage system. I can't keep that kid fed. Are you out of your mind?
Jeff Lewis
Yeah, mine doesn't eat, which is kind of a. Probably a good thing.
Jackie Schimmel
So, lucky.
Jeff Lewis
Yeah, I think so. She's. So her nanny was kind of complaining about her love life to Monroe.
Jackie Schimmel
Oh, okay.
Jeff Lewis
Oh. And I was. You're very open. Yeah. And I was. I was kind of overhearing, and she said, yeah, you know, I just can't win. And Monroe says. She goes, well, if you don't want to lose, don't play the game.
News Reporter
Oh.
Jeff Lewis
And I go. I'm gonna start going to her for advice.
Jackie Schimmel
That's unbelievable.
Heather McMahon
Yeah, it's accurate. If you don't want to lose, don't play the game.
Jeff Lewis
Don't play the game.
Jackie Schimmel
Oh, damn.
Jeff Lewis
I was like, that's fucking smart.
Jackie Schimmel
So smart.
Shane Douglas
That's a good line.
Jeff Lewis
I thought so.
Jackie Schimmel
I'm gonna take that one.
News Reporter
Damn.
Shane Douglas
The name of her next podcast.
Jeff Lewis
Now, she told me this weekend she wanted something. I said, well, how are you gonna pay for that? She goes, with my trust fund. And I go. I go, what trust fund? There's no trust fund. Yeah.
Caller/Brittany
Wow.
Jeff Lewis
So somebody just assumes that because her classmates have trust funds and she's got one waiting for her.
Heather McMahon
I was going to say, yeah, the kids are talking about the trust fund.
Jeff Lewis
They sure are.
Heather McMahon
I don't have to worry if robots take over the world because Daddy's got a trust fund.
Jeff Lewis
Yeah.
Heather McMahon
Wow.
Jeff Lewis
I had to explain to her. So then I said, no, no, no, that's not how it works. But she really just asked me question after question. Daddy, when I'm a little older and I want to go shopping with my friends, like, how much can I spend? She keeps bringing this up. I go, I don't know. I go, you're going to take my credit card? I go, we're going to talk about what you can spend that day. You know, whatever it is. If it's $50, $100, $300, whatever. And I said, you're going to have a budget. And she just thought about it for a second and she goes, daddy, I can't trust myself at Sephora.
Heather McMahon
Same, honey.
Jeff Lewis
She goes, I just don't think I can have a budget at Sephora. And I go, thank you for being honest.
Heather McMahon
Yes.
Jeff Lewis
You're not taking my credit card to Sephora.
Jackie Schimmel
Right.
Jeff Lewis
We're gonna have to do cash.
Heather McMahon
How old is she?
Jeff Lewis
Nine.
Heather McMahon
Nine. Could you imagine nine at Sephora? What are they even buying?
Jeff Lewis
Well, I. Monica has been organizing her. Her sleigh station.
Heather McMahon
Sleigh station. I love her. Oh, my God.
Jeff Lewis
There were 50 lipsticks in there.
Jackie Schimmel
Oh, my God.
Jeff Lewis
Where the hell did she get 50? I didn't buy 50 lipsticks.
Jackie Schimmel
That's insane. When I was her age, I had like, one crusty nyc, like Walgreens lip gloss.
Heather McMahon
It was the vanilla glitter lip gloss. Was it Smuckers? They have came out with, like, their own line.
Jackie Schimmel
That's the jelly.
Heather McMahon
The jelly. And we would just smear that on
Jackie Schimmel
and just remember the Dr. Pepper lip. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Heather McMahon
Nothing better.
Narrator/Advertiser
Lip smackers.
Heather McMahon
The good news is maybe this is our business.
Jeff Lewis
What?
Heather McMahon
Oh, tingles, tingles.
News Reporter
Hold on.
Heather McMahon
We love. We love food. Maybe we bring back food. Inspired lip glosses.
Jackie Schimmel
I don't love that.
Heather McMahon
Okay, great.
Jackie Schimmel
That's a bad idea.
Jeff Lewis
Okay.
Heather McMahon
Okay.
Jeff Lewis
Just keep work. Shopping.
Heather McMahon
Yeah. Workshopping.
Jeff Lewis
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Heather McMahon
It affects me differently. Now. Jackie is the Matcha pro. She understands all things Matcha. She's been drinking it forever. True, but when I was in Japan in March, I was there for 10 days. Every time I attempted a Matcha, I felt like I was crawling out of my skin and I was going to have a full blown panic attack. And I am a bitch who can handle a black cold brew, you know, so it affected me differently. But I also have a very shaky central nervous system. Jackie, tell us your piece.
Jackie Schimmel
I mean, I was gonna say that you have a shaky central nervous system and that doesn't track because. Because factually speaking, Matcha does not have as much caffeine as coffee. It's a sustained, easy, breezy release of caffeine. L theanine bitch.
Heather McMahon
But just because it's a sustained release, I don't think somebody let's a fact check.
News Reporter
So no. Matcha generally has less caffeine than coffee but provides a more sustained energy boost. An eight ounce cup of coffee typically contains 95 to 165 mgs milligrams milligrams segue of caffeine.
Jackie Schimmel
I love Jameson. That's embarrassing.
Jeff Lewis
I was thinking love the chips, gotta love the chops.
News Reporter
I was Thinking.
Shane Douglas
Love it.
Heather McMahon
Yeah.
News Reporter
Thank you. Well, and ADA serving a matcha has about 38 to 88 mgs.
Jackie Schimmel
Thank you.
Jeff Lewis
So you'll be serving matcha on the cruise?
Heather McMahon
I will be serving Matcha on the cruise, yes.
Shane Douglas
Sustained alertness.
Heather McMahon
Yes.
Jackie Schimmel
You know I will.
Heather McMahon
I need people to be tweaking in just the right way.
Jeff Lewis
But you also offer a coffee package on the cruise.
Heather McMahon
We do. Because on the last cruise, when I tell you the funniest part about the. Everything surrounding the cruise is the Facebook group. Before the cruise, these women do not know how to just come and relax. We had women fighting over how many Keurig cups. They're like, well, if I can't bring my Starbucks Keurig cup, you got a Keurig machine. I'm like, we have an actual Starbucks on the ship. Like, calm down. This one woman wanted to bring, like, her diet Dr. Pepsi's or something. And I was like, first of all, no.
Jeff Lewis
Jill Zarin.
Heather McMahon
Yeah, Jill Zarin. I mean, it was insane. And so that's what I'm also going to do on this next.
Jackie Schimmel
Can you imagine?
Jeff Lewis
Jill, Sarah's gonna be on the cruise. No.
Heather McMahon
God, no. Absolutely not. But I would love. I think that's what we're gonna do is we're gonna have a show every day where I just roast and rip apart everybody in the Facebook group. Like, finally. I was like, get on board. People were, like, worried about what snacks they were gonna bring. I'm like, you're on a full, like, floating city.
Jeff Lewis
How many buffets do you have? How many restaurants?
Heather McMahon
Too many. We have.
Jeff Lewis
So you don't know.
Heather McMahon
Too many? Yes, Yes. I don't know. Listen, y' all are really not helping me sell this. And therefore, I will never come on the show again.
Jeff Lewis
Now, when you were on the Norwegian Princess, did you have a Starbucks? Oh, my God. I'm sorry.
News Reporter
Ooh.
Jeff Lewis
Oh. Is that. Is that a bad thing?
News Reporter
It's a dual class ship. It includes the Gem, the Pearl, Jewel. So there's.
Caller/Brittany
Yes.
Jeff Lewis
Did you have a Starbucks?
News Reporter
We didn't. This must be an upgrade.
Heather McMahon
It's an upgrade. We have two pools, okay.
Jeff Lewis
On the Jewel.
Heather McMahon
On the Jewel has two pools.
Shane Douglas
Two pool, Jewel.
Heather McMahon
Yeah. And we're gonna have sexy cowboy, like, Magic Mike s. Strippers. We're gonna bring the queens on. It's gonna be fantastic.
Jeff Lewis
So you go, but you want the stripper package.
Heather McMahon
But you want the stripper package. Yes.
Jeff Lewis
So there's a lot of upsells.
Heather McMahon
There are a lot of upsells. And I don't think I See any of that money, which I. I need to rework that contract.
Jeff Lewis
Shane, will you see how much room is on my Visa?
Heather McMahon
Yeah.
News Reporter
And Jeff, you'd be very happy to know, at least when I was on, there was a hibachi grill called Teppanyaki.
Jeff Lewis
Are you serious? Will you look up the restaurants right now on the Jewel?
Heather McMahon
I bet you look at the restaurants.
Jeff Lewis
I bet there's. Okay, I'm gonna say the. There's seven. How many do you think?
Jackie Schimmel
I'm going to say six.
Jeff Lewis
How many?
Heather McMahon
I think six, Shane.
Shane Douglas
Four.
Jeff Lewis
Okay.
Jackie Schimmel
If there's a hibachi.
Heather McMahon
I mean, there's always Hibachi.
Jackie Schimmel
I will drop that. I love Teppanyaki.
Jeff Lewis
You're going to be there every day?
Jackie Schimmel
Every day. I love a ginger salad. A white rice really just replenishes my soul. A white rice with soy sauce at any given time, at any given day does something to me.
Heather McMahon
And I will say the saddest part of my experience on the last cruise is every. I never got to, like, go out to the restaurants because I'm working from sun up to sundown. So I said all I would do is just eat a T bone steak in my. In my room every night.
Jeff Lewis
I think Brittany in Texas is just booked. Line three.
Heather McMahon
Yes.
Jeff Lewis
Hey, Brittany.
Heather McMahon
Hey, Britt.
Caller/Brittany
Hey, girl. Hey. Oh, my God. I'm, like, legitimately, like, freaking out right now. Shout out, Shane.
Shane Douglas
Shout out, Brett.
Caller/Brittany
I just want to let you know I've been obsessed with you since 2019. You got me through the pandemic. I had my cruise booked. I got the biggest, best stateroom room. Don't know how I'm gonna pay for it. That's right.
Jeff Lewis
Don't worry about it.
Heather McMahon
Don't worry about it.
Jeff Lewis
Worry about it later, Brittany.
Heather McMahon
We are all living over our means right now. Brittany. It's fine.
Jackie Schimmel
Live in abundance now.
Jeff Lewis
Brittany, do you actually have a job?
News Reporter
Yeah.
Jeff Lewis
Great.
Caller/Brittany
Well, okay, yeah, I definitely. I definitely collect a paycheck. I don't know how hard I work, but, yeah, I definitely collect a paycheck.
Heather McMahon
Same with Jackie, girl.
Jackie Schimmel
After my own heartbreak, I'm in.
Caller/Brittany
I do sales. So it's about work. About 10 hours a week. Don't tell my boss that shit.
Heather McMahon
I mean, you have to put an effort. What are you selling, Brittany?
Caller/Brittany
Plumbing. So a lot of shit. We drain pipes. You know what I mean?
Jeff Lewis
Yeah, yeah. Someone's got to do it.
Heather McMahon
Someone's got to do it. And your job?
Caller/Brittany
Someone has to do it.
Heather McMahon
Mark. Safe from AI.
Caller/Brittany
No, I work. I do business development for a commercial plumbing Company here in Texas, so.
Heather McMahon
Okay, so don't.
Jeff Lewis
Sounds legit.
Heather McMahon
Don't sell yourself short, Brittany, seriously. And are you getting all the upgraded packages?
Jeff Lewis
Because it sounds like you can afford it.
Caller/Brittany
Well, I just heard. Well, I. Yeah, you know, I got that money. I didn't realize there was a stripper package. I gotta get that.
Jeff Lewis
Yep.
Heather McMahon
Oh yeah.
Jackie Schimmel
Look into it.
Heather McMahon
And a part of that, my husband will come to your room and just, you know, I don't know, go down on you. Go down.
Jackie Schimmel
Okay.
Caller/Brittany
It's funny you say that because I've tried like messaging you on Instagram so many times. So one day I'll. I was like, fuck it, I'm just going to message Jeff. So I did and he replied and it has been my claim to fame to this day.
Heather McMahon
Yeah, I was like.
Caller/Brittany
Well, just messaged me back.
Jeff Lewis
Brittany, did you spend your life savings on this cruise?
Caller/Brittany
Definitely. And I think my unborn children's education fund.
Jeff Lewis
That's okay.
Heather McMahon
I'm thrilled you're coming on the cruise. But if you ever DM my husband ever again, I'll fucking kill you. I'm kidding, I'm kidding.
Caller/Brittany
I told all my friends, I was like, oh shit. I don't want her to think I'm trying to like, you know, do that.
News Reporter
So now, Brittany, did you get the
Jeff Lewis
coffee package as well as the alcohol package?
Caller/Brittany
Oh, I'm going to have to get it all. And I also just heard that there's an IV bar. I need to get signed up for that.
Jeff Lewis
Yep.
Heather McMahon
Now we're going to have a braid station. You can play mahjong. There's going to be. There are so many activities and activations, your head will just explode. I can't wait.
Jeff Lewis
Okay, what are the restaurants on the Jewel?
News Reporter
Your dining room include 13 options.
Jeff Lewis
I won. I won. I said seven.
News Reporter
Including Cagney Steakhouse. Been there, Delicious. Teppanyaki. Delicious. La cucina Italian. Delicious. Le bistro French. Been there. Delicious.
Heather McMahon
Chin chin, no Shin chin.
Jeff Lewis
I love the Chinese chicken salad there.
Narrator/Advertiser
Me too.
News Reporter
And then Ocean's Bar and Grill. So that's for late night. And then also we've got on the top deck, Garden Cafe. And then included dining room is Zar's Palace.
Caller/Brittany
Yeah.
Jackie Schimmel
Wow, a palace.
Heather McMahon
And I will be sitting in my room eating a T bone steak by myself, crying.
Jackie Schimmel
Speak for yourself. I'll be at Teppanyaki.
Jeff Lewis
Yeah, but then that steak restaurant, Cagney's so good. Martini, Caesar salad.
Jackie Schimmel
Oh my God.
Jeff Lewis
Ribeye.
Heather McMahon
All of it.
Jackie Schimmel
I'm still looking up.
Heather McMahon
Loaded. Baked potato. Uh huh.
Jackie Schimmel
Great.
News Reporter
But don't sleep on the bistro. French cuisine.
Jackie Schimmel
Oh, I won't get a steak.
Heather McMahon
Steak frites with a little Britney.
Jeff Lewis
I'm so excited for you.
Caller/Brittany
Thank you, thank you. I can't wait. It was so fun. Bye, guys.
Jackie Schimmel
We love you, honey.
Jeff Lewis
America. And Savannah. America. Hi, America.
Caller/Brittany
What's up? Tatiana?
Jackie Schimmel
Hey.
Heather McMahon
Bust down.
Caller/Brittany
Shout out. Shout out. Shane.
Jeff Lewis
Shout out.
Shane Douglas
America.
Caller/Brittany
I got my cruise booked. I'm bringing my twin brother because he's turning 50 at some point in the next couple of years and I really wanted to know if there's going to be a pit bull performance.
Heather McMahon
Honey, there's going to be. We're trying to get Mr. Worldwide on the cruise.
Jackie Schimmel
Okay.
Heather McMahon
No, I mean, I would love to.
Jackie Schimmel
There's no budget for that.
Heather McMahon
There's no budget. Yeah, that's. Listen, whatever you want, I will. I will make it happen. Okay? This is. This is truly the. The cruise of dreams. And you bet your ass Pitbull will be on that cruise. Whether it's me dressed in drag or action saying that. Yeah, it's. It will be me dress in drag.
Jeff Lewis
That's what it is. Okay, thank you, America. I will tell you, we are huge Pitbull fans here at Jeff Lewis Live.
Heather McMahon
Same. And just so you know, my claim to fame is I started dressing in drag as Pitbull about 10 years ago and I'm the one who started the whole thing where folks go to the. The concerts, dress as him. And Pitbull acknowledges it and we have communicated about it and he's doing a show in London this summer where he's trying to break the world record, I believe, for the most amount of people wearing bald caps at a concert. And if I'm not invited to that
Jackie Schimmel
concert, oh, he's got to fly your ass out.
Heather McMahon
He's got to fly my ass out.
Jeff Lewis
Do you listen to Pitbull? Globalization.
Heather McMahon
Do I listen to Pit? The best. Other than yours. The best exum Station ever.
Jeff Lewis
I agree. Yeah, I agree. No, it is better than Fireball. Way better than mine. We reached out, we reached out to Pitbull because we wanted him. Because we're such huge fans, we wanted him on the show. He declined, but that's shocking. However, he acknowledged how much we love him and how much we love his station.
Heather McMahon
If you've never been to a pit bull concert, I say this all the time. It will change your life, truly. Like I, you know, obviously I've been doing impressions of him forever, but going to that show, it is a euphoric, out of body experience. It's incredible.
News Reporter
Wow.
Jeff Lewis
Now is it? Kaylin, Kailyn and Tulsa, line two. Hi, Kaelyn. What's going on?
Caller/Brittany
Hey. You said it, right. Hey. So first of all. Hey, Heather. Hey, Jackie. One of the reasons I am booking probably today for your cruise, Heather, is because Jackie's going. She's my spirit animal.
Jackie Schimmel
Love you. Thank you.
Heather McMahon
Okay, well.
Caller/Brittany
Thank you. Well, sorry, Heather, I do love you, but I.
News Reporter
It's fine.
Heather McMahon
Okay, great, great. Okay.
Caller/Brittany
But do you know anything about payment plans?
Heather McMahon
Do you think I know about payment plans?
Jeff Lewis
She doesn't know shit.
Heather McMahon
My American Express is maxed out right this second. At the commercial break, I opened a text from my husband that was just pages long of him screaming at me about my MX belt. Listen, I don't know how the booking works. I don't know anything. My job is to curate an incredible experience that when you step on that ship, you get a tingle in your vagina that it goes all the way up to your spine to reset your central nervous system. Okay. It's going to be incredible.
Jeff Lewis
What about your penis? Would you get a tingle in your penis all the way up?
Jackie Schimmel
Rock hard erections.
Heather McMahon
Boner alert.
Jeff Lewis
Boner on the payment plan.
News Reporter
If you go to faqether@c.com, an automatic monthly billing plan.
Heather McMahon
There you go.
Jeff Lewis
I've got a whole year to pay it off.
Heather McMahon
We have a whole year to pay it off. That means we have a whole year.
Jeff Lewis
Give me a credit card.
Heather McMahon
You could also do it if you have PayPal. You could do it in four, two weeks, spread apart. That's how I do it with all my weight belts. Oh, perfect.
Jeff Lewis
Okay, see, you're just going to brush over that.
Heather McMahon
I'm going to brush over that.
Jackie Schimmel
I don't.
Heather McMahon
I didn't know. I panicked. I didn't know how to.
Jeff Lewis
You're just going to let that?
Heather McMahon
Let's break that down. I'm a wrestling fan. I buy replica belts. Okay, hold on. The replicas are just as expensive that you need a payment plan for them. You're not even buying the real belts. Who's your favorite wrestler? The Undertaker. Just so you know, because my Last name is McMahon.
Jeff Lewis
He's gonna be on the cruise too, right?
Heather McMahon
Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Full wwe. Growing up, dudes would always come up to me like, McMahon is your dad, Vince. And I'd be like, hell yeah, he is. Everyone has thinks that my dad was Vince McMahon and thank God he isn't.
Jackie Schimmel
Yeah, I don't know.
Jeff Lewis
That's the only reason we booked you. Oh, we booked you because we thought you were his daughter.
Heather McMahon
Exactly.
Jeff Lewis
Now I smart.
Heather McMahon
I do think I would thrive at wwe. I think so, too. I think I would be an incredible wrestler.
Jackie Schimmel
No. No fucking way. Me and Heather talk about this all the time. I'd beat the shit out of her if me and her went, like, head to head. Is it a rink? We're a ring.
Heather McMahon
It's not a ring. We're not on ice. Jackie.
Jackie Schimmel
It would feel like we were on ice because I'd take your ass out.
Heather McMahon
I'm not saying that we have to fight. I'm just saying for my own journey, I think I would be great at wwe.
Jackie Schimmel
I totally disagree.
Jeff Lewis
Did you jump out of a moving car while fighting with your husband?
Heather McMahon
What?
Jeff Lewis
Melanie in Arizona, line five. Is that you?
Caller/Brittany
I.
Jackie Schimmel
Definitely.
Caller/Brittany
On the bitch Bible. Heather, you talked about you were in a fight with Jeff.
Jackie Schimmel
Yeah.
Caller/Brittany
And he called you a bitch.
News Reporter
Your dad.
Caller/Brittany
The anniversary of your dad's death.
Heather McMahon
Yes. Yes. You're 100% right. And I did. It wasn't fully moving, like he was kind of grazing through his stop sign. But I opened the door of that Tahoe Z71 and I rolled out. And I was walking down the mean streets of Atlanta, Georgia, just hoofing it in some Gucci loafers. Yes. Because here's the thing. My husband's, like, Italian, so he'll always pop off, but I. I don't. So when I get quiet and then fucking go nuts, that's when you need to be afraid.
Jeff Lewis
This can't be the first time he called you a bitch, though.
Heather McMahon
He really does. No, no, it wasn't the first time he called you the rhyme today.
Jeff Lewis
It's just the first time you really reacted to it.
Jackie Schimmel
Yeah.
Heather McMahon
Yeah.
Jeff Lewis
You just had it.
Heather McMahon
I just had had it. And I lost my shit. So that's the thing is I'm a slow burn. I won't pop off all the time. I pick my battles. And then when I go, watch out, world.
Jeff Lewis
Oh, yeah, I like that little tennis necklace you got.
Heather McMahon
Oh, thank you. That was one of my wedding gifts.
Jeff Lewis
Jackie Schimmel does not miss a thing. She just clocked the inner workings of Jeff Lewis live. So we have all these calls lit up, and then it'll say the names, and then next to it, it'll say, say average caller.
Jackie Schimmel
So funny.
Jeff Lewis
What was your question?
Jackie Schimmel
I'm like, what does average caller mean? Like, just not that funny.
Heather McMahon
And you said, yes,
Jeff Lewis
that is true. So if you are, you know, if you're a little unhinged. We have little notes.
Jackie Schimmel
Yeah. I love that.
Jeff Lewis
Sometimes we have a must take.
Jackie Schimmel
Right? Exactly. It Makes sense.
Heather McMahon
And I gotta be honest, There's a lot of average callers.
Jackie Schimmel
Y' all should know.
Heather McMahon
Y' all should know. So bring your A game if you go live.
Jeff Lewis
Correct. So you were at Boston? No, no. Bristol Farms. You're at Bristol Farms.
Jackie Schimmel
Yeah.
Jeff Lewis
And you walked out, and you walked out and you saw a guy playing a trumpet.
Jackie Schimmel
I did.
Jeff Lewis
And what did you do?
Jackie Schimmel
Well, I thought he was doing a beautiful job. It was a gorgeous day. And he was in the little median at the red light. And I rolled down my window. I never have cash. There was a lot of people waiting at every intersection. So I thought this would be a perfect opportunity to do a good deed with an eye. I happen to have a $20 bill. Okay. I rolled my window down. I said, thank you so much. And he looked at me, my wrist is just dangling there. And he said, I'm not homeless.
Heather McMahon
And I said, you can't support the arts. What an asshole.
Jackie Schimmel
That's what I said.
Heather McMahon
I'm on your side.
Jackie Schimmel
Thank you. I thought that was so nice. Everyone was looking at me. I'm like, oh, my God, I'm such an amazing person. And I said, no, no, no. I just want to thank you, like, for making this red light so enjoyable for all of them. And he literally looked at me like he was disgusted with me and said, okay. And then took the money. And then I awkwardly rolled my window up, and I thought, no good deed goes unpunished. What an asshole.
Jeff Lewis
Anyone playing a musical instrument in the parking lot of Bristol Farms, you assume that they're homeless.
Jackie Schimmel
I didn't even. I was just trying to do a good deed in front of a large amount of people.
Jeff Lewis
You thought he needed money?
Jackie Schimmel
No, I wanted to thank him for contributing to society in a positive way.
Jeff Lewis
You have rich white saviors, your complex.
Jackie Schimmel
That's my line. I said that?
Jeff Lewis
Yep.
Jackie Schimmel
But that wasn't what was happening.
Heather McMahon
But also, he doesn't have to be homeless. He could just be doing his art, trying to get a little support to make a mixtape.
Jackie Schimmel
I was like, listen, my husband's in music. I understand he's jobless. Clearly.
Jeff Lewis
It was usually, jobless means homeless.
Heather McMahon
And toothless thought I was. Yes, Homeless, not toothless.
Jackie Schimmel
Yeah, exactly.
News Reporter
The people in New York City subways who are playing instruments are, I assume, not homeless. And they're happy to take that.
Jeff Lewis
I assume they're homeless.
News Reporter
No, they're not.
Heather McMahon
No. How do they afford the instruments?
Jeff Lewis
I don't know. I don't think I was hot.
Jackie Schimmel
I thought I was doing a nice.
Jeff Lewis
Someone sitting on a Street corner. I just assume they need money.
Heather McMahon
Well, I would assume that they are trying to put their art out there. And they usually have a little cup or, you know, an open guitar case for some extra chance.
Jeff Lewis
I love how you're trying to feel good about yourself by giving people money. I do the same thing.
Caller/Brittany
Yeah.
Jackie Schimmel
All the time.
Jeff Lewis
Yeah. It's guilt.
Shane Douglas
It buys you points.
Jackie Schimmel
Slightly. Slightly. I was like this.
Jeff Lewis
And it's usually after you buy something really expensive, maybe then you feel guilty a little bit. Well, are you two gonna go be getting. Are you gonna be getting into Hermes one of these days?
Heather McMahon
Oh, I got it.
Jackie Schimmel
I got a contact.
Heather McMahon
You got a contact?
Jackie Schimmel
We're good.
Shane Douglas
Where?
Jeff Lewis
Because I think if you're doing this,
Jackie Schimmel
she was like, why didn't you girls call me? And I was like, I don't know.
Jeff Lewis
I thought, oh, did you talk to the family assistant?
Heather McMahon
I did.
Jackie Schimmel
She put me in touch.
Jeff Lewis
Yeah, she did.
Heather McMahon
But see, Morgan has so many Birkins. You know, I think that she. If we go shopping with Morgan, I just think I'm gonna be too poor to shop with Morgan.
Jackie Schimmel
No, we're not. Shopp. She just said she would connect us, but then. Oh, we can't go with her.
Heather McMahon
We can't go with her Entry level leathers.
Jackie Schimmel
We can't do that.
Jeff Lewis
But they're going to bring out some ugly Birkin. Probably.
Jackie Schimmel
We'll take it.
Heather McMahon
Okay, listen, I almost bought one in Japan and I. And I'm upset that I didn't because.
Jeff Lewis
Was it real?
Heather McMahon
Yes, they're all real. So they have this insane resale market. There you go.
Jackie Schimmel
There goes the last of the ticket sales.
Heather McMahon
There goes the truly. Truly. Thank you so much for paying them. Yeah,
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Episode: Heather McMahan & Jackie Schimmel: Kitchen Sex & Cruise Deaths
Date: May 13, 2026
Host: Jeff Lewis
Guests: Heather McMahan, Jackie Schimmel, Shane Douglas
In this high-energy, no-filter episode, Jeff Lewis is joined by comedian Heather McMahan and podcast host Jackie Schimmel for a wild, candid discussion centered around their personal drama, home life, cruise ship antics, and the challenges of maintaining both relationships and reputations in the public eye. They touch on everything from luxury travel hacks and furnishing mansions, to psychic readings and cruise ship horror stories. The episode is peppered with sharp wit, playful bickering, and unfiltered commentary, making for a thoroughly entertaining listen.
Uber/Lyft Ratings and Travel Mishaps (01:04–04:16)
Travel Loyalty & Airline Status (03:43–05:00)
Creative Collaborations (06:06–07:41)
Psychic Readings with 'Scary Sherry' (07:02–10:40)
Buying and Moving Into Mansions in Atlanta (10:38–13:14)
Family Dynamics—Moving Out for Kitchen Sex (14:03–15:15)
Housekeeper Hacks & Upgrades (15:22–18:02)
Promotion Without a Raise (17:44–18:07)
Jackie’s Reluctant Enlistment for Cruise Entertainment (18:09–21:56)
Packages, Pricing, and Alcohol (21:57–23:02)
Cruise Amenities & Experiences (22:45–36:20)
Dining on the Norwegian Jewel (38:02–39:52)
For more, tune in to "Jeff Lewis Has Issues" on SiriusXM, and prepare for more delightful chaos and brutal honesty every week.