
Jackie Schimmel, Zach Noe Towers, & Shane Douglas join Jeff Lewis in Los Angeles.
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Jackie Schimmel
When you're Jeff Lewis, the drama never stops.
Jeff Lewis
I mean, I'm doing charity right now. I think that twice in one year you're doing charity? Yes, twice. What was the first one? You went to dinner with me.
Zach Noe Towers
Do people want to be in your circle?
Jeff Lewis
Buy your way into friendship with Jeff Lewis? I think people are trying to get out.
Andrew
When I first started coming here, I.
Jeff Lewis
Was like, jeff Lewis.
Jackie Schimmel
Jeff Lewis has issues.
Jeff Lewis
Hey, welcome to Jeff Lewis has Issues. In today's episode, Jackie Schimmel and Zach Noe Towers join the show. We talk about bribing kids, chain restaurants, and the truth about men who drive white cars. How was your Valentine's Day?
Jackie Schimmel
So Andrew's birthday is on Valentine's Day.
Jeff Lewis
So selfish.
Jackie Schimmel
So rude. It's so. It's gross.
Zach Noe Towers
Men shouldn't have birthdays on Valentine's Day.
Andrew
Men shouldn't have birthdays, by the way.
Jackie Schimmel
I totally agree. I find it to be so embarrassing.
Andrew
Kind of a nick.
Jackie Schimmel
I'm like, do you want breakfast in bed? Like, so embarrassing. Grow up.
Zach Noe Towers
But also, you get both of them out of the way. That's kind of nice.
Jackie Schimmel
No, I still hijack the day. It's still about me, you know?
Jeff Lewis
So what is a typical day then, on a Valentine's Day, Andrew's birthday, What did you do to celebrate? Did you go to dinner? Did you get him a gift?
Jackie Schimmel
I did not get him a gift. I got a gift. Beautiful flowers, a lovely handwritten note. We went sushi. We had a gorgeous omakase sushi lunch together.
Jeff Lewis
Nice. Where?
Jackie Schimmel
A place called Tomodachi by me. Okay, lovely.
Jeff Lewis
And then do you have sake, too?
Jackie Schimmel
No, not for me. I'm a responsible love.
Jeff Lewis
A sake pairing.
Jackie Schimmel
Hands off, mother. I'm not a day drinker. Really. It's not my thing. And then we went and did separate errands. You know, I like to toodle on a Friday. I didn't want to spend too much togetherness. Time. Also had to, like, have dinner together.
Jeff Lewis
You had to have dinner too?
Jackie Schimmel
Yes.
Jeff Lewis
Did you have to go out again?
Jackie Schimmel
No, I made dinner.
Jeff Lewis
Whoa. Oh, that's nice. What did you make?
Jackie Schimmel
So I made uncrustables. Yes, exactly. I made gorgeous filets. I made, like, a homemade blue cheese wedge salad. We had caviar.
Jeff Lewis
Wow.
Jackie Schimmel
Martinis.
Jeff Lewis
Wow. That sounds very nice.
Jackie Schimmel
We watched Anora.
Zach Noe Towers
Did you like it?
Jackie Schimmel
No.
Jeff Lewis
Did you get a gift for Valentine's Day?
Jackie Schimmel
Um, we're going on a trip this weekend, so that's kind of our gift.
Jeff Lewis
Where are you going? Are you taking the kid?
Jackie Schimmel
I am taking the kid with a babysitter.
Jeff Lewis
Oh, thank God.
Jackie Schimmel
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not a trip without a baby. I'm never leaving my house without somebody helping me. That's not a vacation. Same.
Jeff Lewis
Same.
Jackie Schimmel
I really commend the people that do that. I feel bad for them, but I commend them. You know, when you see the families on their. You know, in Mexico with the kiddos, having dinner at 5. I'm not doing that.
Annie
Mm.
Jeff Lewis
Yeah. Where are you going?
Jackie Schimmel
I'm going to Los Olivos.
Jeff Lewis
Oh, how nice. Where are you staying in case anyone wants to call?
Jackie Schimmel
Well, there's only really one place to stay. It's gorgeous. You have to go there.
Jeff Lewis
And will it be under your last.
Jackie Schimmel
Name in At Matty's Tavern? Please send vodka.
Jeff Lewis
So it's probably under Andrew's last name because we're using his credit card. Maybe. Is his last name Schimmel?
Jackie Schimmel
No.
Zach Noe Towers
That'd be so funny.
Jackie Schimmel
Oh, my God. Wouldn't that be amazing, though, if he changed his last name to Shimmel? Oh, God. A dream.
Jeff Lewis
How is Clyde?
Jackie Schimmel
Clyde is delicious.
Jeff Lewis
Okay. How old is he now?
Jackie Schimmel
He's a year and a half.
Jeff Lewis
Okay.
Zach Noe Towers
Wow.
Jackie Schimmel
And refusing to walk even though he can walk. He just doesn't like to walk. So that's. That's kind of the.
Jeff Lewis
I get it.
Zach Noe Towers
He gets that. Mom.
Jackie Schimmel
It's so embarrassing because I've taken him to 4pts and I'm like, what the hell's going on? Like, why isn't he walking? Like, it's getting. You know, it's getting embarrassing. I'm starting to get questions and.
Jeff Lewis
Oh, It's a bad reflection on you.
Jackie Schimmel
Yes.
Jeff Lewis
As a mother.
Jackie Schimmel
It's not about like him and his functionality, it's just like about me. Also, like these brittle hips. I can't hold him anymore. He's breaking my spirit and my body. And I'm like, fucker, we gotta start walking. Yeah, Cardio as well, you know. And they're like, no, he can walk, he just doesn't want to. I'm like, cool, what am I supposed to do? Like, what do you do with that? Like, no, he can walk. Okay, great. So. And they're like, no, he just doesn't want to. He just doesn't want to. He just doesn't want to.
Jeff Lewis
So is he crawling?
Jackie Schimmel
Oh, like rapid fire. Okay, like crawling like that. He's too good at crawling. He can get anywhere he needs to go at rapid speed. Crawling, creepy.
Jeff Lewis
It's just not gonna be good when he's 16. Just like crawling through high school.
Jackie Schimmel
No, exactly.
Jeff Lewis
Can he pull himself up?
Jackie Schimmel
Totally. Okay, no creepy, cruising, all of that. But is very scared to walk independently. Like, has to be holding on to my pants, my hand, something.
Zach Noe Towers
Maybe you put a bunch of thumbtacks on the ground.
Jackie Schimmel
Oh my God, I love that. Yeah, that's such a good idea. We should do that at Chump con Broken Glass.
Jeff Lewis
Now. Just wait til they're. I mean, I don't know, girls are different. But my kid, she was manipulating, manipulative. Monroe was in full force yesterday. So she came to me and I felt fell for it for a second. Right, Daddy, I would love to have dinner with you. Can you take me to dinner? I'm like, oh, and where would you like to go? She goes, javier's. I go Century City. She goes, mm. I said, isn't there American Girl Doll there? She goes, mm. I thought we could just stop by after dinner. I said, you don't even want dinner. You're gonna pretend like you want dinner, you're not gonna eat. And then we're gonna go to American Doll. She goes, and then she started giggling and I said, you know what? I would love to have dinner with you. We're going to the Grove. And she goes, can we go to Barnes and Noble? And I said, oh, the bookstore? She goes, mm, the second floor. They have a toy. They have a toy section.
Jackie Schimmel
Of course.
Jeff Lewis
So she's. Yeah, she already knows all the malls.
Jackie Schimmel
Smart.
Jeff Lewis
So I might as well just go to Century City. And I love Javier's. Yeah, but I'm going to end up an American girl.
Jackie Schimmel
How early did she, or I should ask you this. At what point did bribery come into play with your parenting? Like, do you bribe her with things? Because I'm, like, very on the tip of bribery right now.
Jeff Lewis
I don't think I bribe her.
Jackie Schimmel
Like, you eat this, gives herself this. Okay, so it's not like, a transactional. Like, if you finish your dinner, then maybe we could get ice cream. And by the way, if you're thinking about sliding into my DMs with your gentle parenting tactics or you shouldn't do that. Please don't do that. Please. I don't have the bandwidth today.
Andrew
You tried that one time to get her to eat more food. So there was, like, a frozen Barbie sitting on the island. And he was like, if you try five new foods, you can get it. But it just became a standoff because she was like, you're gonna give me that Barbie if I try these shits or not.
Jackie Schimmel
Okay. Whoa.
Andrew
And then he did.
Jeff Lewis
Oh. But remember the one thing that I've only done once since. In eight years of her life, which made a big impact when? Remember when I bought her that toy in New York?
Andrew
Oh, yeah.
Jeff Lewis
And she was. Honestly, she was, like, the most misbehaved she'd ever been in her life. And I was so mad. And I kept warning her and warning her, and I took that toy and broke it in half and threw it right in the trash can in front of her.
Andrew
On the streets of New York.
Jeff Lewis
On the streets of New York. And honestly, it traumatized her, but she was perfect child for the rest of the trip.
Jackie Schimmel
Whoa. You had a full psychotic break. How old was she? I did three, four.
Jeff Lewis
She was young, probably five.
Jackie Schimmel
That's old enough.
Zach Noe Towers
And that toy was a puppy.
Jeff Lewis
But it sucked. Cause I think it was, like, 80 bucks. I'm like, this is gonna be. You know, this is expensive. More than it hurts more. I know, but it's gonna be a good lesson.
Jackie Schimmel
You broke it in half, like, what? With your kneecap. Like, limb Del. Like a psycho.
Jeff Lewis
You know me. I'm dramatic. It was. Yes. It was very theatrical. And, you know, I had to break it. And then I, like, threw it down in the trash can, and she just started crying. And I'm like, I warned you. I warned you 14 times, and it worked.
Jackie Schimmel
Oh, I love that.
Jeff Lewis
But then I've never done anything like that since. And then. So I wouldn't. Don't talk to me about discipline.
Jackie Schimmel
Okay, well, thank you for sharing that story. That's heartwarming.
Jeff Lewis
Now, the funny thing is, too, is she's very much learned from her dad. And to her Aunt Jackie, because she's got five babies from American Girl and she wants six, but she's overwhelmed right now with taking care of them.
Jackie Schimmel
Oh, my God.
Jeff Lewis
So she brings them into the office and asks Shane and Annie to watch her babies.
Jackie Schimmel
She's outsourcing, like a great mother does.
Andrew
So she can go play on her iPad. And I'm stuck feeding her baby.
Jackie Schimmel
It's really fun.
Jeff Lewis
And I was talking to her about that. I'm like, monroe, I said, I know you want a six. She goes, I want to go to Century City tonight. I said, I know you want a sixth baby. I said, but you can't take care of the five babies you have.
Jackie Schimmel
Exactly.
Jeff Lewis
And I said, you are taking your babies and making Annie take care of them. She's like, she loves the babies.
Jackie Schimmel
No, Monroe has it right. It's very important that your child doesn't have extreme, strange or danger. You want them to be able to go and feel safe with lots of different people. That's why I left Clyde with the lovely saleswoman at Bottega Veneta Topanga Mall three days ago while I tried on clothes.
Jeff Lewis
Yes.
Jackie Schimmel
He went right to her. Right to her.
Jeff Lewis
She probably spends more time with him.
Jackie Schimmel
She breastfed him. It was lovely. It was lovely.
Jeff Lewis
We have names. It's like. Because I was like, what are the names of your dolls?
Andrew
Quinn.
Jeff Lewis
How do you know Bella.
Jackie Schimmel
He's the babysitter.
Zach Noe Towers
How do you know? Stepdad over here.
Jeff Lewis
Kiara. Yeah, you're right. Quinn, Kiara, Melody, Bella, Eloise.
Andrew
Eloise.
Jackie Schimmel
Oh, wow. Cute names.
Zach Noe Towers
Solid names.
Jeff Lewis
Yeah. So I said, so you making Shane and Annie watch your babies? She goes, I was making them dinner. And I said, what did you make them? She goes, pastries. I said, that sounds healthy.
Jackie Schimmel
Yeah.
Jeff Lewis
Healthy for babies. Yes. But she claims, Annie, that she was making dinner for the babies.
Samantha
That's sweet. We were feeding them, too, so they're overfed for sure.
Jeff Lewis
By the way, be careful on P3. That's where Annie parks. So was it yesterday that she almost. Or the day before?
Andrew
Two days ago.
Jeff Lewis
I'm on P4. Come around the corner. Annie does not turn and look before she backs up. Just be very, very careful.
Jackie Schimmel
I love that for you.
Jeff Lewis
She just backs up. She doesn't look. I was right there. Thank God. Because I see that I didn't know it was her because she's in the. Are you in your second rental car?
Samantha
No, this is the og.
Jeff Lewis
But I don't even recognize it because she's been in rental cars for so long that I didn't even know was her real car. Car. So I didn't know it was you, Annie.
Samantha
No, no, this isn't my real car. This is the first loaner that I just got back from the. Whatever.
Jackie Schimmel
It doesn't matter, Samantha.
Jeff Lewis
Oh, wait, so it's not your real car?
Samantha
I would never drive a blue Subaru.
Zach Noe Towers
It's the first rental.
Jeff Lewis
Okay, so it's the first loaner because you wrecked the second loaner.
Andrew
No, no, I'm never back from the shop.
Jeff Lewis
Yeah, the one that you wrecked.
Samantha
Yeah.
Jeff Lewis
Okay, so it's back. I didn't recognize it. So you know how when you. You're in a parking lot and you're not sure if someone sees you? Half the time, I assume they see me. And I go.
Jackie Schimmel
Right.
Jeff Lewis
But in this particular moment, and I didn't. The Annie part didn't even register to me. I'm like, you know, I don't know. If this girl sees me, I'm just gonna stop. Sure enough, just backs right up. Doesn't even look. And then. So Michael Beck was in his Porsche ahead of her on P2. I said, be real careful. Annie's right behind you. He goes, I could see her. He goes, I could see her by rear view mirror. She's literally looking in the mirror. And on the phone, she's not even paying attention where she's going.
Jackie Schimmel
Do you turn your rear view mirror to you so you can see yourself?
Samantha
Of course.
Jackie Schimmel
Same. Totally same. It's always facing me. My husband gets so mad. He's like, what are you doing? I'm like, sometimes I like to lip sync in the car and re lying. Checking my angles, you know?
Jeff Lewis
Now you know Doug's mom's in town.
Jackie Schimmel
Oh, yeah, I saw that.
Jeff Lewis
I don't know what's gonna happen. But, you know, he's got his sight set on that apartment trying to kill me.
Doug
What?
Jeff Lewis
I said, he's trying to kill me.
Jackie Schimmel
Live footage.
Jeff Lewis
But I get all. I get all of these DMs. Like, leave poor Doug alone. He's so nice. Do you ever get those kind of DMs?
Andrew
Yeah, of course.
Jeff Lewis
Here's the thing. Two words for you. For everyone that thinks that Doug doesn't have it in him, let's just remember Jamie Rubin. What he did to Jamie Rubin. He took her out. Remember? C and K was her brainchild.
Jackie Schimmel
Yes.
Jeff Lewis
He worked his way in. He took it over. He stole it from her. He publicly humiliated her. Have we heard from her since?
Jackie Schimmel
Nope.
Jeff Lewis
Nope.
Jackie Schimmel
He's a silent assassin.
Annie
It's so hard to even remember it. Started with the tune Jackie.
Jeff Lewis
And I remember. I know every detail.
Jackie Schimmel
I called that from the jump.
Annie
Just now that you're saying. I'm like, oh, my God, that's right. It started as a co hosted experience.
Jackie Schimmel
Oh, yes. But that was Jamie Rubin's show, and he hijacked it.
Jeff Lewis
Jamie is the chef, not duck.
Annie
I think it was a little bit of your bullying and your.
Jeff Lewis
I mean, it has nothing to do with me. Yeah. I mean, he might paint that narrative, but no, no, no, no, no. He pushed her out.
Jackie Schimmel
He laser cut a tiramisu stencil and sideswiped her.
Jeff Lewis
But not only that, he would cut her off when she was talking. He would tell his long stories. You could see her eyes roll to the back of her head.
Andrew
My favorite was when he started talking. He was telling a story. She hit the blender.
Jackie Schimmel
Right. I have it saved in my favorites folder. I can show you. I hit break.
Jeff Lewis
They hated each other. You hear about these, like, TV series and things like where the. Where the stars hate the leads hate each other. That was this situation.
Zach Noe Towers
Wow.
Jackie Schimmel
This is my Roman Empire.
Jeff Lewis
Oh, my God.
Jackie Schimmel
Blending mashed potatoes with that tight smile and, like, a little twitch in the left eye. Oh, you'll have never seen anything like that.
Jeff Lewis
Because she knew it was happening.
Jackie Schimmel
Yes.
Jeff Lewis
She knew he was taking over.
Jackie Schimmel
Yes. And everyone else is like, oh, Doug's so sweet. Like, aw, Doug. But you're so right. This is a classic Jamie Rubin 2.0.
Andrew
He'll do it to his own mom.
Jeff Lewis
Oh, for sure he will.
Jackie Schimmel
You know, he's got coffee stencils just ready to go for his mother.
Andrew
If he did that for a 5pm time slot on Instagram Live, he'll do it for an apartment on Central Park West.
Jeff Lewis
I'm so curious. I want a front row seat at that funeral because I want to watch Doug and his faux grief.
Jackie Schimmel
It'll be like the role of a lifetime.
Jeff Lewis
Yep.
Andrew
Danielle on traitors whenever. So she's the traitor. So she kills someone, and then whenever they find out who died, she's like, oh.
Jeff Lewis
Oh, my God.
Andrew
And she's, like, shaking and goes crazy. Yeah, that'll be Doug.
Jeff Lewis
And here's the thing. You know, Doug plays big, over the top characters. You don't want to be big, over the top at a funeral. I think the hysterics, the crying, the.
Andrew
I think.
Jeff Lewis
Oh, yeah, the big glasses, black veil. Yep. So that's why I want to see it, because I think he's. I don't think he's going to play it well.
Jackie Schimmel
Oh. Over Performing?
Jeff Lewis
Yep.
Jackie Schimmel
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Andrew
Jackie hates when we bring up Rhonda, but she walked in here with a sparkly Las Vegas tumbler.
Jackie Schimmel
Wait. I would just like to clear homage. This has nothing to do with Chump Con, but I did purchase this at the Las Vegas airport for 29.99. Violently hungover. I bought one for all of my friends who refused to drink out of them. They're like, jackie, that is disgusting. This comes with me everywhere. Speaking of funerals, I will be buried with this cup.
Jeff Lewis
Well, look, If I spend $29 on.
Zach Noe Towers
A cup, or it could be.
Jeff Lewis
You gotta use it.
Jackie Schimmel
Don't you think it looks so much more expensive? This is my JLO cup.
Jeff Lewis
Can I tell you something? Until I saw Las Vegas on it, I thought it was really. I thought it was probably $65.
Jackie Schimmel
You have to get one for Monroe.
Annie
Do you?
Jeff Lewis
I just don't like the Las Vegas part.
Andrew
Jeff has no concept of what cups cost.
Jackie Schimmel
But that's.
Andrew
This is $5 for a Starbucks tumbler.
Jeff Lewis
I don't know.
Jackie Schimmel
1999.
Jeff Lewis
I don't even know what gas cost. I know.
Andrew
What could that cup cost?
Jeff Lewis
What does gas cost now?
Andrew
It's like 560.
Jeff Lewis
Oh, that's not bad.
Andrew
It's pretty bad.
Jackie Schimmel
It's pretty bad. It's been worse, though, I think.
Jeff Lewis
Yeah. Wasn't it higher? I don't know, like 8?
Jackie Schimmel
No, no, like 6?
Jeff Lewis
Ish.
Zach Noe Towers
You guys are getting premium, I assume.
Jackie Schimmel
Yeah, yeah.
Annie
The regular is like 489.
Jeff Lewis
I know people don't want to talk about this, which is why I keep talking about it, but I. Jameson and I had a little pep talk at the break in regards to the car thing. Okay, hold on. Because I think this is a very good point that I made. It took me many years to come up with this, but I realized I was in his head. This is a major life decision for him. It doesn't have to be. It's a car. You're gonna own it. You can sell it whenever you want.
Annie
Right?
Jeff Lewis
You might have it a year, you might have it five years, you might have it 12 years. Who gives a fuck? Just buy the car. If you screw up, then you sell it and you buy another one.
Annie
Yeah, it does feel like a major decision.
Jackie Schimmel
Okay, well, it's not. And also, don't be so tethered to material things.
Annie
Thanks, Jesus.
Jackie Schimmel
Jesus.
Annie
The woman with the bejeweled Las Vegas. She'll be buried with live in abundance.
Jeff Lewis
That is. Yes, you're right. Live in abundance.
Annie
I love that. I love that. I Love that.
Jackie Schimmel
Yeah.
Annie
I'm getting two cars.
Jeff Lewis
Well, let's not get crazy.
Jackie Schimmel
It's just because you've been with your car for so long that you've built up this, like, very sophomoric relationship to a vehicle.
Jeff Lewis
It's like that movie Christine missed, that one.
Zach Noe Towers
You remember, Christine kills people.
Jeff Lewis
The car kills people. But he had a weird relationship with her. Yeah.
Zach Noe Towers
Oh, I just think it's funny. You two are so much richer than Jameson. Telling him, just buy it. If it doesn't work out, just return it and take a lot.
Jackie Schimmel
We already know that Jameson's gonna buy something that he can. He's not a reckless spender.
Jeff Lewis
No, he's not.
Jackie Schimmel
So we put enough thought into it. Now it's getting weird, so let's just go for it.
Jeff Lewis
Yes.
Jackie Schimmel
You could get hit by a bus tomorrow. You could get abducted by the aliens.
Jeff Lewis
Well. And he would die in that car if he got killed by a bus. There's no airbags. It's not safe.
Annie
I do have airbags and power windows and door locks. Thank you.
Jeff Lewis
Whoa, wait, I thought you had to crawl into the passenger door.
Annie
Well, the front door, it's complicated anyway, so.
Jeff Lewis
No, explain. I want you to explain what's happening.
Annie
The engine in the driveway, driver's side door doesn't like the engine for the. Or the mechanics for the door unlocks. So I have to turn the key and pull the handle. If you have one arm, you can't open the front door.
Jackie Schimmel
Cheryl can't buy it.
Jeff Lewis
What do you do with the valet?
Annie
I don't valet.
Jeff Lewis
Oh, I guess I wouldn't either with that car.
Annie
I absolutely do not.
Jackie Schimmel
Yeah, so live in abundance.
Annie
Franck's always like, your life is gonna just be so much better. You don't realize. It's like, you know, when you just get used to things and then you don't realize other people are doing it.
Jeff Lewis
So even Franck is over it. Your life is gonna be so much better. Oh, that's code. Make a fucking decision.
Jackie Schimmel
Let's go.
Jeff Lewis
Oh, he's gonna start getting angry and resentful like the rest of us.
Annie
He's patient.
Jeff Lewis
Well, you're doing.
Jackie Schimmel
Let's not test that.
Jeff Lewis
You're doing well. You're making money. I think, you know, like what she said, you know, you live in abundance. I think let's manifest it and let's maybe just keep a car like a normal period. Like what people do. Like five years, right?
Annie
Yeah, maybe.
Jeff Lewis
Right? Is five years a good time to keep a car? Maybe.
Andrew
Yeah.
Jeff Lewis
Now, your theory, which Is very interesting. You believe that men who drive white cars are gay?
Jackie Schimmel
Yes. Oh, oh, explain.
Jeff Lewis
Explain.
Jackie Schimmel
That's it. There's nothing to explain.
Jeff Lewis
Cause I have been thinking. Do I know a straight guy that drives a white car? Only one. And questionable Kian.
Jackie Schimmel
Oh, okay.
Jeff Lewis
Well, gay stuff.
Jackie Schimmel
Gay stuff. It's not that men who drive white cars are definitively gay. It's just that they might be gay.
Jeff Lewis
It is a strange. It's usually a girl color.
Jackie Schimmel
I just. I mean, if it's a choice, I find that to be interesting.
Jeff Lewis
The only thing in Kian's defense, it's a Jameson. It's all blacked out. Like, he's got the black windows, the black wheels, the black trim. It's the M package. It's kind of sexy. But I wouldn't get white. You're right.
Jackie Schimmel
Is it because. Did you choose the white car? Is it because of a.
Jeff Lewis
Chose the white.
Jackie Schimmel
A clean thing? Because black cars get dirty. Okay, so there is black cars got dirty.
Zach Noe Towers
No, no.
Jackie Schimmel
Black cars show everything.
Zach Noe Towers
Oh, I didn't realize that.
Jeff Lewis
If I live. Well, if I lived in Palm Springs. If I lived in Palm Springs, I'm most likely gay. But.
Jackie Schimmel
Right.
Jeff Lewis
And old with the heat. I would consider if I was living in extreme heat like Arizona.
Jackie Schimmel
Yes.
Jeff Lewis
I might get a white car.
Jackie Schimmel
You're also gay.
Jeff Lewis
That's true.
Annie
Keep in mind.
Jeff Lewis
Also that's true.
Annie
Kian is European.
Jackie Schimmel
Oh, okay.
Annie
So there could be.
Jeff Lewis
Oh, they don't know any better.
Jackie Schimmel
Okay, so that's. There's a lot of.
Zach Noe Towers
But maybe he blacked out those windows to do all that gay shit in that car.
Jeff Lewis
Oh, gay stuff.
Jackie Schimmel
See, it goes both ways. We're not sure.
Annie
Yas Queen.
Jackie Schimmel
Yeah.
Jeff Lewis
Okay. I'm gonna think I don't know a straight guy who owns a white car.
Jackie Schimmel
Yeah.
Andrew
Oh, my dad's truck is white, but it's a Toyota Tundra.
Jeff Lewis
Well. And two of his sons are gay.
Jackie Schimmel
Yeah, see, there's something. If it's a truck, it kind of cancels out. There are loopholes to this thing.
Jeff Lewis
Oh, you think the truck cancels it out?
Zach Noe Towers
I don't picture white trucks.
Jeff Lewis
Yeah. Cause. Oh, that's true. I don't plan. Yeah, you're right. Cause they're all the workmen. Like the subcontractors. They have white vans and the white trucks.
Jackie Schimmel
That's an exemption 1,000% because exact. Exactly. My contractor. It's a white truck. Didn't think about that.
Jeff Lewis
Speaking of listening to this bullshit. Cause you're used to dealing with construction. This guy's trying to cover his ass. Mario. Oh, I shouldn't say his name.
Andrew
No, don't.
Jeff Lewis
I already did.
Andrew
He's great.
Jeff Lewis
Marin Marshall. Marin. Marina. Marina Stevenson. So Marina comes over, and she gives me an estimate to put mirrors in a client's home. Mirrors on the cabinetry doors. The cabinet doors.
Jackie Schimmel
Okay. I've done this. I understand.
Jeff Lewis
$824. I'm like, that's a. Yeah, let's do it.
Andrew
It's one wall.
Jackie Schimmel
Yeah.
Andrew
It's like. It's like four.
Jeff Lewis
Four panels.
Jackie Schimmel
I've never seen that.
Andrew
824, like, inset into the cabinet.
Jackie Schimmel
Antiqued or regular?
Jeff Lewis
We did regular.
Jackie Schimmel
Okay.
Jeff Lewis
I'll tell you why. It's a playroom. Yeah. So we just. Regular. So 824. I said, let's do it. I asked my client. I'm like, this is a great price. And he puts them in, and I get a bill for over seventeen hundred dollars. Okay. And I work with them all the time. So now I'm like, what the fuck this? You said 824. And then Shane sent him the invoice. And what does he say?
Andrew
He said, oh, that was just for the.
Jeff Lewis
The mirror.
Andrew
Yeah. Not installation or delivery.
Jeff Lewis
I said, who the fuck do you think was gonna install it? Me, Shane.
Andrew
Like, I'm not super gluing it.
Zach Noe Towers
That's annoying.
Jeff Lewis
What I think happened is I think he. He. I think he accidentally gave me his price.
Jackie Schimmel
Yeah.
Jeff Lewis
And then he had to cover his ass by saying, oh, no, that didn't include installation. So now my calling to him is because I have all this work with him on my house. I'm like, all that better include installation.
Jackie Schimmel
Yeah.
Jeff Lewis
Because you're doing what, seven shower enclosures, mirrors, all of this. But don't think you're gonna pull that on me. But it's such.
Annie
Ugh.
Jackie Schimmel
There's nothing more annoying.
Jeff Lewis
And I've worked with him for years, and he's never. Not included installation.
Jackie Schimmel
Right. Yeah.
Zach Noe Towers
He fucked up.
Jeff Lewis
He fucked up.
Zach Noe Towers
Yeah.
Jeff Lewis
Just say you fucked up.
Zach Noe Towers
Marina fucked up.
Annie
So did you have to pay it, or did he honor the price?
Jeff Lewis
He didn't honor the price.
Annie
Wow.
Jeff Lewis
And I'm not. I don't want to burn the relationship, you know, meet in the middle.
Zach Noe Towers
That's not fair. To go more than double what the quote was.
Jeff Lewis
Yeah.
Jackie Schimmel
Yeah.
Zach Noe Towers
That's crazy.
Jackie Schimmel
Very annoying.
Jeff Lewis
But he fucked up, and he's trying to cover his ass.
Jackie Schimmel
Totally.
Doug
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Jackie Schimmel
I can feel when you walk watching me.
Jeff Lewis
I like it.
Doug
It's the perfect marriage of love and deception.
Jackie Schimmel
I watch her.
Jeff Lewis
I assume she watches me.
Jackie Schimmel
There's a traitor in the house. Find the leak.
Doug
Black Bag is the most anticipated espionage thriller of the year.
Jeff Lewis
Who's the suspect?
Doug
Your wife?
Jackie Schimmel
Would you kill for me?
Doug
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Christina
First decision of the morning. Hmm? A creamy mocha Frappuccino drink. Or will we ease into the day with a sweet vanilla, Maybe a smooth caramel? Ooh, what about that white chocolate mocha? No matter which flavor you choose, delicious coffee awaits. Better coffee starts a better day. Start with bottled Starbucks Frappuccino drinks. Pick up a bottle near you wherever you buy your groceries.
Jeff Lewis
Christina in New York. Hi, Christina. Hey.
Mike
Hey. I'm laughing about the conversation about the cars because I just got a new car. It's black. And my husband got my old car, which is white. And it's a 2012 Nissan Altima. And he works from home most of the time. But I think Jameson just has to go for the new car because I honestly felt like I was driving around, like, in a Flintstone car for a long time because it was so outdated. It has, like, a CD player. The doors weren't opening properly. It was just. It was, you know, cloth seats. And now I have, like, my commute is so much better because I have heated seats, which is great in New York. And the remote start. My. My husband's shouting, save your money, dude.
Jeff Lewis
Don't. What's your husband's name? What's your husband's name?
Mike
I'm trying to get involved. This is not about you. Mike, okay?
Jeff Lewis
His name is what? So you gave Mike garage to get away from him. You gave Mike white car.
Mike
I certainly said, why don't you just.
Jeff Lewis
Put him in a dress at this point?
Mike
Be opposed to that. He probably, you know, Jeff, I called before. He had the lightsaber. This is Mike with the lightsabers doing that. I. Yeah, so there's other issues.
Zach Noe Towers
We don't Want him to be gay, then.
Jeff Lewis
Yeah. No, he's. There's too many things he's dealing with already.
Mike
I might be very happy with that. It could work out.
Jackie Schimmel
Okay.
Jeff Lewis
It might be something we See who wears the pants in that family.
Jackie Schimmel
I like a husband taking the wife's old car.
Jeff Lewis
Of course you would.
Andrew
Didn't Andrew drive your purple car?
Jackie Schimmel
No.
Jeff Lewis
Thank you for your call, Christina, but no. You know that. Speaking of cars, Annie drove in college two hours to go see you live.
Jackie Schimmel
You did.
Jeff Lewis
Do you know how many people died on that highway that day?
Jackie Schimmel
What took you so long to bring that information? Annie?
Jeff Lewis
She didn't want to look like a stalker.
Jackie Schimmel
Oh, Annie, that's. Wait, where?
Samantha
Well, actually, it was a little bit further than two hours. It's from Mississippi to Dallas. Eight hours.
Jackie Schimmel
Oh, that's.
Zach Noe Towers
Oh, my God.
Jeff Lewis
Oh, my God. All the lives, the injuries, the deaths, the carnage of the. On the highway.
Jackie Schimmel
Oh, my God. There's blood.
Jeff Lewis
It's like Final Destination. Oh, God.
Jackie Schimmel
Oh, Annie, that's so sweet. That makes me. Wow. We're bonded forever.
Samantha
Yeah, it was fun. It was a good show.
Andrew
How was the show?
Samantha
It was really good. She wore cute red boots.
Jackie Schimmel
I was so thin. I was just looking at old videos. I was like, oh, God. So thin. Yeah.
Andrew
Are you gonna go back on tour?
Jackie Schimmel
I'll have to eventually.
Jeff Lewis
Yesterday I went to see Scary Sherry, my psychic. Never has. She said this to me. She said, you look fat. I can see your stomach. I've never seen your stomach before. But you know what? I appreciate I didn't eat for the rest of the day. Yeah, that's what I need. I need strangers telling me I'm fat. Because it truly works.
Jackie Schimmel
Totally.
Jeff Lewis
And so today I was down a pound.
Jackie Schimmel
Look at that.
Jeff Lewis
Yeah. Thank you, Sherry.
Jackie Schimmel
God bless her.
Jeff Lewis
196. I got six to go.
Jackie Schimmel
Okay.
Jeff Lewis
I need six strangers to tell me I'm fat.
Jackie Schimmel
Line up, guys.
Zach Noe Towers
I'll tell you you're fat.
Jeff Lewis
Okay.
Jackie Schimmel
All right.
Jeff Lewis
Now, you went to Cheesecake Factory with Clyde.
Zach Noe Towers
Yum.
Jeff Lewis
Cheesecake Factory.
Zach Noe Towers
It's so good.
Jackie Schimmel
Oh, my God. It is so good.
Jeff Lewis
Did you get the bread?
Jackie Schimmel
Of course. I haven't been to a physical Cheesecake Factory in, like nine years.
Andrew
Whoa.
Jackie Schimmel
I know. And I missed it.
Zach Noe Towers
Yeah, it's good.
Jackie Schimmel
Here's why so worried.
Jeff Lewis
This is why we don't go.
Zach Noe Towers
There are 10 years.
Jeff Lewis
It's the wait that's the problem. I would go all the time, but I've got to. I've got to park at the Grove and then I've got to. I Don't want to wait 30 minutes to eat.
Jackie Schimmel
No, totally. It's.
Jeff Lewis
It's a whole so popular Cheesecake Factory.
Jackie Schimmel
But I got there early.
Jeff Lewis
When did you get there?
Jackie Schimmel
1108.
Jeff Lewis
Oh, we can go for lunch here.
Andrew
I forget about going for lunch.
Jackie Schimmel
Oh, it's great for lunch. It's better for lunch.
Jeff Lewis
I'm gonna go in a food coma, though.
Zach Noe Towers
They have a lunch menu.
Andrew
What did you get? Cause I get overwhelmed.
Jackie Schimmel
Okay. Thank you for asking. So I got Clyde little cheeseburgers like the kids.
Zach Noe Towers
Sliders.
Jackie Schimmel
Sliders. Very delish. Fries weren't great, but that's okay. He could miss a fry. I got the pot stickers.
Zach Noe Towers
Yum. They're so great.
Jackie Schimmel
Tried and true. Great.
Jeff Lewis
Great choice.
Jackie Schimmel
Delicious. They also now have an additional lettuce wrap taco on the Skinnylicious menu.
Jeff Lewis
Yes.
Jackie Schimmel
Which I was very intrigued by. But not a great share plate with Clyde, so I didn't get that. And then I got. Let me tell you, the stuffed mushrooms are the sleeper hit.
Jeff Lewis
I have never had the stuffed mushrooms.
Jackie Schimmel
They are stunning, stunning, Garlicky, breadcrumby. And then you dip the bread in the residual.
Andrew
I had the honey truffle chicken and I was like, craig's who? Like this.
Jackie Schimmel
It was to die for. It was good. Service is to die for.
Jeff Lewis
See, I can't eat until probably 6 o'clock tonight when I go to Javier's. Cause I can only do one meal a day, like a snake. So this is gonna be real bad. Yeah, this is gonna be a real bad day for you, Shane. Yeah, but where do we go for protein shakes?
Andrew
Oh, creation.
Jeff Lewis
Yeah, we're gonna have to do that.
Jackie Schimmel
That'll hold you over.
Andrew
Well, they're very strong.
Jeff Lewis
You're just gonna have to. Jackie, I can't. I gotta stay at 196. I can't go up.
Jackie Schimmel
Yeah, I tried to do that yesterday. It didn't. I only made it to 130.
Zach Noe Towers
And sometimes don't you, like, slingshot back where you. Then you kind of like, binge when you finally let yourself eat?
Jackie Schimmel
Mm.
Zach Noe Towers
That's why you gotta keep yourself, like, satiated. Like, eat a nut every 10 minutes.
Andrew
Eat what?
Zach Noe Towers
One nut.
Jackie Schimmel
Okay. Yolanda Foster.
Jeff Lewis
She went up really good. Thanks for listening. If you want more of this, listen to Jeff Lewis Live every weekday on SiriusXM as well as the Jeff Lewis Channel, exclusively on the SiriusXM app.
Christina
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Episode: Jackie Schimmel & Zach Noe Towers: Bribing Kids & White Cars
Release Date: February 28, 2025
In this engaging episode of Jeff Lewis Has Issues, host Jeff Lewis welcomes special guests Jackie Schimmel and Zach Noe Towers to discuss a variety of personal and humorous topics. From navigating dual celebrations to parenting dilemmas and quirky stereotypes, the trio delivers a candid and entertaining conversation. Below is a detailed summary capturing the essence of their discussions, enriched with notable quotes and timestamps for reference.
The episode kicks off with the overlap of Valentine's Day and Andrew's birthday, sparking a lighthearted debate among the guests.
Jackie Schimmel expresses her disdain for celebrating birthdays on Valentine’s Day:
"So selfish. So rude. It's so. It's gross." [00:35]
Zach Noe Towers concurs, stating:
"Men shouldn't have birthdays on Valentine's Day." [01:38]
Jeff Lewis probes into how they celebrated the day:
"So what is a typical day then, on a Valentine's Day, Andrew's birthday, What did you do to celebrate?" [01:58]
Jackie shares her thoughtful yet unconventional celebration plan:
"I did not get him a gift. I got him a gift. Beautiful flowers, a lovely handwritten note. We went sushi. We had a gorgeous omakase sushi lunch together." [02:20]
This segment highlights the balancing act of celebrating multiple significant events simultaneously, blending tradition with personal preferences.
A significant portion of the conversation delves into the complexities of parenting, especially regarding discipline and the use of bribery.
Jeff Lewis recounts an extreme disciplinary action:
"I bought her that toy in New York... And she was... I took that toy and broke it in half and threw it right in the trash can in front of her. Honestly, it traumatized her, but she was a perfect child for the rest of the trip." [07:45]
Jackie Schimmel discusses her challenges with her child's reluctance to walk:
"He's too good at crawling. He can get anywhere he needs to go at rapid speed. Crawling, creepy." [05:19]
Zach Noe Towers humorously suggests:
"Maybe you put a bunch of thumbtacks on the ground." [05:39]
Jackie emphasizes her use of emotional manipulation over gentle parenting tactics:
"If you're thinking about sliding into my DMs with your gentle parenting tactics or you shouldn't do that. Please don't do that. Please. I don't have the bandwidth today." [07:10]
This segment underscores the diverse approaches to parenting, highlighting the tension between discipline and bribery.
The guests discuss a mutual acquaintance, Doug, portraying him as manipulative and deceitful.
Jeff Lewis describes Doug's takeover of Jamie Rubin's show:
"He worked his way in. He took it over. He stole it from her. He publicly humiliated her." [13:10]
Jackie Schimmel adds:
"He's a silent assassin." [13:40]
Jeff sarcastically comments on Doug's potential over-the-top behavior at a funeral:
"I want a front row seat at that funeral because I want to watch Doug and his faux grief." [15:28]
The conversation paints Doug as a cunning figure who undermines others for personal gain, adding a dramatic flair to their discussion.
A humorous yet thought-provoking dialogue emerges around the stereotype that men who drive white cars are gay.
Jackie Schimmel boldly states:
"Yes. Oh, oh, explain." [20:45]
Jeff Lewis shares his skepticism:
"Do I know a straight guy that drives a white car? Only one. And questionable Kian." [20:55]
Annie counters the stereotype by sharing her father's white truck:
"Oh, my dad's truck is white, but it's a Toyota Tundra." [22:37]
Zach Noe Towers humorously suggests:
"But maybe he blacked out those windows to do all that gay shit in that car." [22:26]
This segment explores societal perceptions and the complexities behind car color choices, blending humor with social commentary.
Jeff shares his frustrations with a contractor named Marina Marshall, highlighting issues with service delivery and billing.
Jeff Lewis narrates a billing mishap:
"I got a bill for over seventeen hundred dollars. And I work with them all the time. So now I'm like, what the fuck this?" [24:00]
Annie inquires about the resolution:
"So did you have to pay it, or did he honor the price?" [24:56]
Jeff elaborates on Marina's lack of accountability:
"He fucked up, and he's trying to cover his ass." [25:15]
The discussion sheds light on the challenges of maintaining professional relationships amidst service disputes.
The guests reminisce about dining experiences, particularly at the Cheesecake Factory, intertwining personal stories and preferences.
Jackie Schimmel shares her latest visit:
"I got Clyde little cheeseburgers like the kids. Sliders. Very delish." [30:55]
Jeff Lewis expresses his aversion to waiting times:
"It's the wait that's the problem. I would go all the time, but I've got to park at the Grove and then I've got to. I Don't want to wait 30 minutes to eat." [30:34]
Zach Noe Towers adds:
"They have a lunch menu." [30:47]
This segment highlights the social dynamics of popular dining spots and the balance between convenience and quality.
A humorous exchange about weight loss strategies and personal struggles provides comic relief.
Jeff Lewis shares a tough encounter with his psychic:
"She said this to me. She said, you look fat. I can see your stomach. I've never seen your stomach before. But you know what? I appreciate I didn't eat for the rest of the day." [29:26]
Jackie Schimmel sympathizes:
"I love that for you." [29:46]
Zach Noe Towers offers a comical solution:
"You gotta keep yourself, like, satiated. Like, eat a nut every 10 minutes." [32:20]
The conversation playfully addresses the pressures of maintaining physical appearance and the lengths one might go to achieve weight loss goals.
Throughout the episode, the guests engage in lighthearted banter, sharing jokes and amusing anecdotes that add to the episode's entertaining nature.
Jackie Schimmel humorously remarks on her Las Vegas tumbler:
"This is my JLO cup." [16:43]
Jeff Lewis engages in playful insults and jokes:
"I'm dramatic. It was. Yes. It was very theatrical." [08:30]
Zach Noe Towers contributes to the humor with witty remarks:
"I'll tell you you're fat." [30:00]
This ongoing humor fosters a relaxed and enjoyable atmosphere, making the episode relatable and fun for listeners.
In this episode of Jeff Lewis Has Issues, Jeff Lewis, alongside Jackie Schimmel and Zach Noe Towers, navigates a tapestry of personal anecdotes, parenting dilemmas, social stereotypes, and humorous exchanges. The candid discussions, punctuated with memorable quotes and relatable humor, offer listeners an intimate glimpse into the hosts' personal lives and perspectives. Whether tackling the challenges of dual celebrations, the intricacies of parenting, or the quirks of social stereotypes, the episode delivers both laughs and thoughtful insights, making it a compelling listen for fans and newcomers alike.
Notable Quotes with Timestamps:
These quotes encapsulate the episode's blend of humor, candidness, and insightful commentary, providing a snapshot of the lively discussions that unfold throughout.