Jennifer Fessler & Doug Budin

Summary

Podcast Summary: Jeff Lewis Has Issues Episode: Jennifer Fessler & Doug Budin | Release Date: November 22, 2024

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Introduction

In this episode of "Jeff Lewis Has Issues", hosts Jeff Lewis and Doug Budin are joined by guest Jennifer Fessler. The conversation dives deep into personal transformations, reality TV drama, family dynamics, and everyday struggles—all delivered with Jeff's trademark no-filter style.

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1. Personal Introductions and Initial Banter

The episode kicks off with lighthearted introductions and playful interactions among the hosts and guest.

• Jeff Lewis [00:00]: "When you're Jeff Lewis, the drama never stops."
• Doug Budin [00:19]: "Hey, it's Jeff Lewis and I have issues."
• Jennifer Fessler [00:10]: "I hate that guy. Jeff Lewis has issues."

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2. Jennifer Fessler's Major Personal Transformations

Jennifer opens up about her extensive cosmetic procedures and weight loss journey, revealing a significant "glow up" between seasons 13 and 14 of her reality TV show.

• Doug Budin [02:06]: "You did have a huge glow up between season 13 and 14. Is that correct?"
• Jennifer Fessler [02:32]: "I did a lower facelift."
• Doug Budin [02:44]: "What was it?"

Jennifer details the procedures she underwent:

• A lower facelift to enhance her facial structure.

• Veneers for her teeth, including a redo.

• A body lift following significant weight fluctuations, particularly after pregnancy.

• Jennifer Fessler [03:04]: "I did a lower facelift."

• Jennifer Fessler [05:34]: "I had three asses."

Cost and Impact: Jennifer candidly discusses the financial and emotional toll of her transformations.

• Jennifer Fessler [07:25]: "I spent a lot of money."
• Doug Budin [07:13]: "You spend 100 grand in the glow up?"
• Jennifer Fessler [07:15]: "Yeah, ish."

She praises her plastic surgeon, Dr. Sam Risk, highlighting the quality and support she received.

• Jennifer Fessler [08:04]: "He threw some..."
• Jennifer Fessler [08:14]: "He did the full CO2. It was fabulous. I have no pain whatsoever."

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3. Weight Loss Journey and Medication

The discussion shifts to weight loss strategies and the use of medications like Ozempic and Mounjaro.

• Doug Budin [17:22]: "Do you go on for a while, then off for a while, or how does it work?"
• Jennifer Fessler [17:25]: "I stay on and I will be on forever."

Jennifer explains her commitment to maintaining her weight loss through continuous medication:

• Jennifer Fessler [17:28]: "I don't have any plan to go off of it."
• Doug Budin [18:04]: "I stopped."
• Jeff Lewis [18:07]: "I take Mounjaro."

Emotional Eating: Jennifer reflects on her relationship with food and how her medication has altered her eating habits.

• Jennifer Fessler [18:40]: "I've been riddled with eating disorders, and I was bulimic all throughout my 20s."
• Jennifer Fessler [19:20]: "I still crave and I do still eat."

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4. Reality TV Drama: The Real Housewives of New Jersey

Jennifer discusses her relationships with other cast members and the fallout from her actions in the finale.

• Jennifer Fessler [12:57]: "I'll be fine with everybody, but I wouldn't say that everybody is necessarily fine with me."
• Jennifer Fessler [13:19]: "Jen, Aiden, and Theresa did unfollow me back a few months ago."

She recounts a pivotal moment in the show where she stood up against Jen:

• Jennifer Fessler [15:43]: "This is not for me. I don't want to be where glass is shattered."
• Doug Budin [15:58]: "I think it's good."
• Jeff Lewis [15:17]: "It showed who Jen is."

Jennifer explains her stance was influenced by her recent facelift and personal boundaries:

• Jennifer Fessler [14:24]: "I had just had a facelift."
• Jennifer Fessler [14:44]: "I get very freaked out. So when things get like that, I exit."

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5. Family Dynamics and Estate Issues

A significant portion of the episode delves into Doug Budin's troubling behavior regarding his elderly mother’s estate and his interaction with Jeff.

• Doug Budin [22:03]: "Jeff has been waiting for his mother to die and is concerned about her spending."
• Jeff Lewis [24:35]: "I paid her back with my love and time."
• Doug Budin [24:27]: "You stole $10,000 from your sister."
• Jennifer Fessler [24:58]: "He's just doing me a favor."

The conversation reveals:

• Doug’s manipulation of his mother’s finances and eventual theft of her art.
• Jeff’s questionable handling of estate matters, including taking a piece of art without proper authorization.
• The ethical and legal implications of their actions.

Notable Exchange:

• Doug Budin [24:14]: "He stole a piece of art from her home and shipped it back to Los Angeles."
• Jennifer Fessler [25:05]: "Yes, we are accessories."

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6. Expensive Hotel Breakfasts and Financial Struggles

Jeff and Doug share a humorous yet revealing story about the exorbitant cost of hotel room service breakfasts and the financial strain it places on them.

• Doug Budin [28:02]: "It's $55, then $19 for delivery, room service, gratuity—$90 total."
• Jennifer Fessler [28:45]: "Eggs."
• Doug Budin [29:11]: "$100 breakfast."

They discuss the repeated expense of multiple breakfasts and the absurdity of the costs involved:

• Doug Budin [29:19]: "She better fucking eat everything."
• Jeff Lewis [29:41]: "Why do you have to have it sent up like that?"

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7. Charity Buzz Promotions

The hosts promote a charity auction for a studio visit at the SiriusXM LA office through Charity Buzz.

• Doug Budin [08:35]: "You can bid at charitybuzz.com typing in Jeff Lewis."
• Jeff Lewis [08:54]: "Excellent job."

They discuss the progress of the auction bids and encourage listeners to participate:

• Doug Budin [08:47]: "We have about 18 bids so far, right? Yeah, we're at 43.50."
• Jeff Lewis [08:55]: "Excellent job."

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8. Lighthearted Interactions and Q&A

Interspersed throughout the episode are playful jabs, friendly teasing, and responses to listener comments about personal appearances and habits.

• Jennifer Fessler [06:17]: "Yes, I have three chins."
• Shane [12:07]: "I disagree."
• Doug Budin [30:50]: "She's been hitting the mini bar."

These moments add levity to the episode, balancing the more serious discussions.

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Conclusion and Final Remarks

The episode wraps up with final thoughts on the discussed topics, reiterating the candid and unfiltered nature of the show.

• Doug Budin [31:26]: "We are accessories."
• Jeff Lewis [32:00]: "Why do you get so technical about these sorts of things?"

Listeners are reminded to tune in to "Jeff Lewis Live" and the Jeff Lewis Channel on the SiriusXM app for more content.

• Jennifer Fessler [33:10]: "Thanks for listening."

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Jennifer Fessler [02:32]: "I did a lower facelift."
• Jennifer Fessler [07:25]: "I spent a lot of money."
• Doug Budin [17:22]: "Do you go on for a while, then off for a while, or how does it work?"
• Jennifer Fessler [15:43]: "This is not for me."
• Doug Budin [24:14]: "He stole a piece of art from her home and shipped it back to Los Angeles."
• Jennifer Fessler [18:40]: "I've been riddled with eating disorders, and I was bulimic all throughout my 20s."
• Doug Budin [28:02]: "It's $55, then $19 for delivery, room service, gratuity—$90 total."

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Key Takeaways

• Jennifer Fessler's Transformations: Extensive cosmetic surgeries and weight management highlight her dedication to personal appearance, albeit at significant emotional and financial costs.
• Reality TV Dynamics: The episode exposes the intricacies and tensions behind the scenes of reality television, particularly within "The Real Housewives of New Jersey".
• Family and Ethics: Doug Budin's unethical handling of his mother's estate underscores themes of greed and familial betrayal.
• Financial Challenges: Personal anecdotes about extravagant expenses, such as overpriced hotel breakfasts, shed light on the real-life financial pressures faced by the hosts.
• Charity Efforts: The promotion of charitable activities emphasizes the show’s commitment to giving back despite the personal issues discussed.

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This episode of "Jeff Lewis Has Issues" provides an unfiltered look into the personal lives of its hosts and guests, blending humor with serious discussions about beauty, family, and financial struggles. Whether you're a long-time listener or new to the show, this episode offers a comprehensive overview of the complex relationships and personal challenges faced by the participants.

Transcript

[Jeff Lewis]

When you're Jeff Lewis, the drama never stops.

[Doug Buden]

I'm sorry. We didn't mean to offend anybody. We offend everybody. We live in a nest of positivity. I live in a nest of negativity.

[Jennifer Fessler]

She said, I swear you'll love him. I said, you could swear all day long. I hate that guy. Jeff Lewis has issues.

[Doug Buden]

Hey, it's Jeff Lewis and I have issues. In today's episode, Jennifer Fessler and Doug Buden join the show. We talk about weight loss, my daughter's expensive breakfast, and Doug stealing from his elderly mother. Good afternoon.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Hi.

[Doug Buden]

We finally got you here.

[Jennifer Fessler]

I am freaking out.

[Jeff Lewis]

I'm so excited.

[Jennifer Fessler]

You are, Doug.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah. I'm thrilled.

[Jennifer Fessler]

I am, too. Thank you.

[Doug Buden]

It's almost sincere. Doug, you've become a really good actor.

[Jeff Lewis]

I told you, I've been taking all those YouTube lessons.

[Doug Buden]

It worked. Today we met you at BravoCon.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Yes.

[Doug Buden]

Is that where you met Jen Fessler?

[Jeff Lewis]

No, I met Jennifess here on the 36th floor.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Yes.

[Doug Buden]

Oh. So Doug is the first person you greeted, correct? Was greeted.

[Jennifer Fessler]

No, that's not true, Shane.

[Shane]

I met her on the street. When we were on the way here.

[Jennifer Fessler]

When I called, I remember I screamed out Jeff. Because I saw Jeff Fessler.

[Doug Buden]

Yes.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Because he actually works at 30 Rock.

[Doug Buden]

It happens so quickly. And I'm sorry, I don't normally, like, quickly kiss my guest and then run, but I had a zoom. This was kind of funny this morning. So we had an 11 o'clock Zoom, which I was running a bit late. I think I ran in, like, two minutes late. And how many. Jen Fessler. How many people were on that zoom, do you think?

[Jennifer Fessler]

Well, there was also, like, little committees in the one in the picture frame. So I'm gonna say at least, like, probably 20.

[Jeff Lewis]

20.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Yeah.

[Doug Buden]

So we were in a conference room, and then I see Jen walk by and I'm like, hey, come in and join us. And you were great in the zoom.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Thank you. I appreciate that.

[Doug Buden]

Yeah, you really represented well.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Yeah, I felt like I did. You sold the show. Thank you. I appreciate that.

[Doug Buden]

Yeah, Jen was great with the advertisers.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Thank you so much.

[Doug Buden]

You should do something in the corporate world. I mean, you just fit right in.

[Shane]

You give good zoom, Blazer.

[Jennifer Fessler]

I give good zoom. This is hardly a corporate blazer. This is a. Looks like. I think, like, little kids made little drawings.

[Doug Buden]

It's cute.

[Jennifer Fessler]

It's cute, right?

[Doug Buden]

Yeah, I think it's really cute.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Well, now I have a stylist, so I'm very. Yes, I'm very fancy.

[Jeff Lewis]

Someone picked this out for you.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Correct. I don't even dress myself anymore. That's how big I've become.

[Doug Buden]

So rich.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Yeah, I'm huge.

[Doug Buden]

Well, you did have a huge glow up between season 13 and 14. Is that correct now? Very few. I mean, it's probably one of the biggest transformations. I mean, you were attractive before. Don't get me wrong.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Thank you.

[Doug Buden]

But I mean, when you were done with that glow up. Wow.

[Jennifer Fessler]

I'm gonna say that I'm taking that as such a huge compliment.

[Doug Buden]

It's a compliment.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Cause it was a lot of money and a lot of pain, so hopefully it was not for nothing.

[Jeff Lewis]

So what was it?

[Doug Buden]

Yeah, what did you do?

[Jennifer Fessler]

What wasn't it? That will take us less time. I did a facelift.

[Doug Buden]

Okay.

[Jeff Lewis]

A full facelift.

[Jennifer Fessler]

I did a lower facelift.

[Jeff Lewis]

Lower.

[Doug Buden]

Which is still a facelift. Right. But you didn't do a brow lift.

[Jennifer Fessler]

I did not. Not yet.

[Doug Buden]

Okay. You don't need it yet.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Thank you. That's what my plastic surgeon said.

[Doug Buden]

Just ask me.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Thank you.

[Jeff Lewis]

Cause that's what would really change the shape of your eyes.

[Jennifer Fessler]

You have to be careful with that.

[Jeff Lewis]

When you can tell someone's had when like a weird facelift a lot of times.

[Jennifer Fessler]

And it takes like if you have almond shaped eyes, like I happen to, I think it sometimes changes them into round eyes, which apparently is not as good. So you have to be careful.

[Doug Buden]

Well, you know who had a good brow lift is Tamara Judge.

[Jennifer Fessler]

She's so blessed.

[Doug Buden]

Did you see her in the reunion?

[Jennifer Fessler]

I saw her at the reunion.

[Doug Buden]

She looks.

[Jennifer Fessler]

I saw her recently. Yes. At Jen Geyser at Nefkure, which is a. It was a charity event honoring Jen Geyser. The exact. That we all know.

[Doug Buden]

Yes.

[Jennifer Fessler]

And Tamara was there and she looks. She just gets more and more beautiful.

[Doug Buden]

But here's the thing. Like, every time she does surgery, I'm like, why is she doing that? She doesn't need it. But then when she's done, I'm like, damn. I mean, she was one of the first people, I think, I mean, at such a young age to get a facelift. Didn't she get a facelift like 40, in her 40s? But she looks good.

[Jennifer Fessler]

It's working well. I also. She got that laser thing done.

[Doug Buden]

Yes.

[Jeff Lewis]

I don't want to see that. You know, but she'd. Every day she would show us what it looked like. I don't want to see that.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Well, I did do it recently.

[Jeff Lewis]

Did you show it every day?

[Jennifer Fessler]

Yeah, I did it about a month ago. No, I didn't show it to anyone. Nobody wants to see that.

[Doug Buden]

So you did the full laser?

[Jennifer Fessler]

I did the full CO2. I didn't do the blue thing she had, but I did the full CO2. It was fabulous. I have to say. I had no pain whatsoever. There was an excuse for me to lay around for a week, which I. That's my favorite place is bed.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay.

[Jennifer Fessler]

So. And I had actually had an excuse. I thought it was wonderful.

[Doug Buden]

So you did the facelift. Did you get new teeth, too?

[Jennifer Fessler]

I got veneers. I had veneers already.

[Doug Buden]

Okay.

[Jennifer Fessler]

So I got them redone.

[Doug Buden]

Okay.

[Jennifer Fessler]

And I heard you talking about veneers yesterday, and I'd like to know if I'm in that same little group where you were sort of making fun of their veneer. I heard. Yes. Because I know you have the nice ones.

[Doug Buden]

I didn't single anyone out. But it wasn't that. I had. I did have a great doctor, but I also had. I was a good candidate. Cause I had tiny, little eroded teeth.

[Jennifer Fessler]

I don't remember that.

[Doug Buden]

Yeah, well, it's funny because I'm sure this is what you did in season 13. You become, like, hyper fixated on our insecurities. And mine, after the Hollywood house left, was with my teeth. And so I had that done between season one and season two.

[Jennifer Fessler]

I didn't notice. I never noticed that you didn't have nice teeth, but you definitely have nice teeth now.

[Doug Buden]

Thank you. I got to a point where I wouldn't smile.

[Jeff Lewis]

Jeff would keep his teeth hidden also.

[Doug Buden]

Because I'm just not happy in general. But.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Yeah, right. Why smile?

[Doug Buden]

Right? Why smile?

[Jennifer Fessler]

Overrated.

[Doug Buden]

So what else did you do? You did your teeth.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Okay, So I did my. You did your nose? I did my nose.

[Doug Buden]

Okay.

[Jennifer Fessler]

I did my nose. I did my teeth. I did my face. I've now recently. Not recently, but I have had a body lift. But you can't. You would never see that. I don't know why I got it. It was a complete waste of money because I would not take off my clothes for anyone but Jeff Fessler, and he doesn't give two shits. But whatever, I got it. I got a good deal for it.

[Shane]

What is a body lift?

[Jennifer Fessler]

Yeah, what are they lifting so well, I lost and gained a lot of weight in my lifetime. Like, I was my highest. I was like 223 pounds. I think I said that on the show, didn't I? Like, that's like a Vander Holyfield's weight when he won the heavyweight championship.

[Doug Buden]

Was this when you were pregnant or Something.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Yes, it was. I was. But I was about a buck 90 all through my 20s. Wow. That's substantial. Yes, that is.

[Doug Buden]

You're tall, though.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Five six now. I used to be five seven, but I've stretched out a lot of skin. So I had, like, my ass. I had my ass. My ass would stop, and then there was, like, another ass underneath it.

[Doug Buden]

Oh, you had two asses?

[Jennifer Fessler]

Yes, there was, like, almost like, one and the skin, and then there was another one. I actually had, like, three asses.

[Jeff Lewis]

A spare.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Yes.

[Doug Buden]

You had three asses.

[Jennifer Fessler]

I had three asses.

[Doug Buden]

We have. I have a lot of chins.

[Jeff Lewis]

Not a lot. You don't have a lot.

[Doug Buden]

I have less chins.

[Jeff Lewis]

A few have more than one.

[Doug Buden]

And then how many do you have, Doug?

[Jeff Lewis]

I don't know.

[Doug Buden]

I think two and a half. I think you have two and a half. The second one is really big.

[Jeff Lewis]

That's a shadow. That's just a shadow.

[Doug Buden]

So how much did you spend in all of this glow Up?

[Jennifer Fessler]

So. Well, can I first say.

[Doug Buden]

I'm gonna ask Jeff. Jeff knows.

[Jennifer Fessler]

No, we don't. Well, he's not. I don't. I didn't tell him, so.

[Doug Buden]

Oh, oh, so Jeff doesn't know?

[Jennifer Fessler]

Oh, yeah. He thinks that he knows, but he probably doesn't know. Exactly. But I will say this. Ye. Seeing myself on tv, you definitely. I could focus, sort of. Unfortunately, I focused right in on the flaws. But I had been, like, gunning for a facelift for years. I mean, I'm 56, so it was coming, but then seeing myself, it became an emergency. Yeah, Right. So how much did I spend? I spent a lot of money. But, I mean, I'll be honest.

[Doug Buden]

You spend 100 grand in the glow up?

[Jennifer Fessler]

Yeah.

[Doug Buden]

More.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Ish.

[Jeff Lewis]

And then all low.

[Doug Buden]

100 clothes, everything stylist. Jeff, were you aware of that? Are you shocked? Did you have an idea?

[Shane]

Jeff Fessner, sir.

[Doug Buden]

Okay, so Jeff. He's smart.

[Jeff Lewis]

Jeff Fester, he's an attorney.

[Doug Buden]

So he knew.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Yeah, he knew. But I did get. I have to say, I did get good deals and the truth.

[Jeff Lewis]

And you look gorgeous.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Thank you.

[Doug Buden]

Really look. Great work.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Thank you.

[Jeff Lewis]

Very close to you.

[Jennifer Fessler]

That's very nice. Thank you. I appreciate it.

[Jeff Lewis]

My eyesight is poor, but not terrible.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Thank you.

[Jeff Lewis]

You look fantastic. Oh, yes.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Well, the doctor that I use his name, I always promote him, is Dr. Sam Risk, which is an unfortunate name for a plastic surgeon. Yes, but with a Z. Sam Risk. He is unbelievable. Dr. Rizk. Dr. Sam. R, I, Z, K. Oh, Rizk Risk. Riz but he says. I mean, you say risk.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Yeah. But I have promoted the hell out of him because I love him so much. Good. So he did give me a very good deal and he did just do the laser for free.

[Doug Buden]

Oh, how nice.

[Jennifer Fessler]

He threw some.

[Doug Buden]

Well, you spent 100 grand, you get a free laser.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Yes.

[Doug Buden]

That's fantastic.

[Jeff Lewis]

Here you get a phone charger.

[Doug Buden]

Now, speaking of charity, you said you were at a charity event. We are very passionate about charity here at Jeff Lewis Live and we're auctioning off a studio visit in the LA office. And if you go to charity buzz. Do you want to spell that?

[Jeff Lewis]

C, H, A, R, I, T, Y, B, U, Z, z. Like in Riz.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Like in Riz.

[Doug Buden]

Charity buzz. Yes, charitybuzz.com and you basically type in Jeff Lewis.

[Jeff Lewis]

Correct.

[Doug Buden]

You can bid. I believe we have about 18 bids so far, right? Yeah, we're at 43.50.

[Jeff Lewis]

Excellent job.

[Doug Buden]

So Andy, unfortunately.

[Jeff Lewis]

Where's Andy?

[Doug Buden]

He's at 1850, but you know, he walked in very cocky, very cocky yesterday.

[Shane]

I don't care.

[Doug Buden]

I don't need to promote it. I'm Andy. Well, it sounds like you do. Andy sounds like you need to promote it because he's only at an embarrassing 1850.

[Jeff Lewis]

Where's Lisa Loeb?

[Doug Buden]

Lisa Loeb is doing better than I thought. She's up to 375. Oh, and she's going to do a custom eyewear fitting.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Does she? I don't. I know the name because I grew up in.

[Doug Buden]

Okay, we'll play it for. Do you have the song you say? No, no, no, no. Let's listen to her version.

[Shane]

Stay.

[Doug Buden]

You'll know it was 30 years ago.

[Jennifer Fessler]

But what does that do with eyeglasses?

[Doug Buden]

Well, that's, that's a good question. I don't know.

[Jeff Lewis]

We're going to look that up one of these days.

[Doug Buden]

Oh, because she, she's known for her glasses, right?

[Jennifer Fessler]

She made a line of eye.

[Shane]

She made a line of glasses.

[Doug Buden]

Yeah. But she's like. Why is she like this? This. Is she a pop artist? What is she. Yeah, like 30 years ago.

[Jeff Lewis]

Look at me.

[Doug Buden]

I will say she does have a great voice. It's very soothing. She's also a. She's a radio host here at SiriusXM.

[Shane]

90S on 90s.

[Jeff Lewis]

That was funny that Andy didn't know that. And he was like, is she on Sirius? I mean, come on.

[Doug Buden]

Yeah, I know. He's.

[Shane]

It's so much.

[Doug Buden]

He can be a little self involved.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Andy.

[Doug Buden]

Yeah. Okay, we have it. So here it is.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Okay.

[Doug Buden]

You'll know. You'll know.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Oh, my God. I only hear what I want. You.

[Jeff Lewis]

This was in a movie. I'm sure.

[Doug Buden]

What?

[Jeff Lewis]

This was used in a movie.

[Doug Buden]

I'm sure it was used in a lot of movies.

[Jeff Lewis]

Maybe Janine Garoppolo movie.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Remember her?

[Doug Buden]

Oh, you think like cats and dogs or something?

[Jeff Lewis]

I don't know.

[Doug Buden]

I'm sure it was used in many movies. I mean, it was. I think it's 30 years old.

[Jeff Lewis]

So good. She's probably making a lot of money.

[Doug Buden]

But explain the. Yes, the eyewear affiliation. Okay, we're good.

[Shane]

She makes Reality Bites.

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh, Reality Bites.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Reality Bites.

[Doug Buden]

Yep, you're right. That's. That's the movie. I was thinking that was a great movie.

[Jeff Lewis]

And when I think Lisa Loeb, I think glasses, which is why I go to Charity Buzz, because I want her to fit my eyeglasses.

[Doug Buden]

So she wears the same. Does she wear the same style all the time?

[Shane]

I doubt it. She has her own line. She should be swapping it out every day.

[Doug Buden]

Cause she's never worn contacts. Right.

[Shane]

I don't know her like that.

[Doug Buden]

Anyway, so she's only at 375.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay.

[Doug Buden]

And then we're gonna have to help our friend Nicole Ryan today. Cause she's only at 175.

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh, yeah. No one wants to do that.

[Doug Buden]

Yeah.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Who is Nicole Rowe?

[Shane]

She's our friend on Hits 1.

[Doug Buden]

She's on Hits 1? You listen to Hits 1?

[Jennifer Fessler]

Not really. I mean, yes, occasionally. My kids are in the car.

[Doug Buden]

Okay. Yeah, she's.

[Jennifer Fessler]

I mean, I listen to the bridge.

[Jeff Lewis]

So we're live right now. Yep. Cotton lover.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Fair. Fair. Okay.

[Doug Buden]

So I think she's like a dj, right?

[Shane]

She's a party. No, she's a radio person.

[Jeff Lewis]

But she. Isn't she doing the second hour of Jeff Lewis Live today?

[Doug Buden]

Yes, she is.

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh, wonderful.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Shit. Get out of here.

[Doug Buden]

Yeah, you're gonna see her when you.

[Jeff Lewis]

Exit Jen, just go to the left quickly. Don't bring Jen in from. Nicole. In from the right.

[Jennifer Fessler]

So typical. So typical. Just perfect.

[Doug Buden]

So Jen Fessler thinks she has a big head. And we had to explain to her that you do not have a big head.

[Jennifer Fessler]

I don't know what you mean. I absolutely, categorically have a big skull. You're looking at me like I don't. I can't wear a hat. Everybody knows it. Ask me.

[Doug Buden]

I don't. Ask my husband, who has a very small head.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Yes, I have a huge skull.

[Doug Buden]

I just said you had a long face.

[Jennifer Fessler]

I don't think I do have a long face.

[Doug Buden]

But Jeff was very honest, which I appreciate, because, you know, Doug still insists that he has a small head. And Jeff Fessler was like, you do not have a small head because Jeff.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Fessler has the smallest head you've ever seen.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah, Jeff's head is small. Mine is medium.

[Jennifer Fessler]

I think yours is medium.

[Jeff Lewis]

Thank you.

[Jennifer Fessler]

You're very welcome.

[Doug Buden]

I disagree.

[Shane]

I disagree.

[Doug Buden]

Right?

[Shane]

Yeah. No, it's a large head.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay.

[Doug Buden]

All right. So what's happening with the Real Housewives of New Jersey? I know that you guys are on pause right now, and they're probably going to restructure. Blah, blah, blah. Yeah, but who are we hanging out with? Who do we get along with?

[Jennifer Fessler]

So I'm fine with everybody, but I wouldn't say that everybody is necessarily fine with me.

[Doug Buden]

Really?

[Jennifer Fessler]

Yeah. Well, I mean, I'm not, like, I'm not at war with anyone, but Jen, Aiden and Theresa did unfollow me back a few months ago, so I don't think they're very pleased with me. Although I did see Jen at this charity event, and she couldn't have been nicer. We said hello, we kissed. It was fine. I haven't spoken to Theresa, but I don't think I'm, like, their priority.

[Doug Buden]

What happened that Teresa would not be.

[Jennifer Fessler]

I think it was more. Jen was disappointed that. I don't know if you remember, in the finale, I said to Danielle, now that I've seen it back, I do think that, you know, Jen did, in fact, push you first, because I was always more Team Jen. And I know Jen had said she was in my face, and I felt like I was. My space was being invaded. And so I pushed her, but it wasn't a push. And then when I saw it back, I said, well, you know, that was a push.

[Jeff Lewis]

And so you took a stance.

[Jennifer Fessler]

I did. I took a stance. And unfortunately, I don't think Jen liked it.

[Jeff Lewis]

So that was the turning point.

[Doug Buden]

But you can't blindly defend your friends. Like, if somebody pushes somebody, you gotta be able to. Well, I saw you push them.

[Jeff Lewis]

Sorry.

[Doug Buden]

Push him.

[Jennifer Fessler]

I mean.

[Jeff Lewis]

But in that finale, you also. You were like, I can't deal with this. It was like. It was a. You were. Not that you were saying it was beneath you, but you're like, this is not.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Because I had just had a facelift. When glass starts to fly, I exit, exit left. Like, I'm not interested in glass hitting my face. I don't. And if it was too expensive, it was too expensive.

[Doug Buden]

If I had gotten this at over 100 grand.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Thank you. If I Got a cheap facelift that would have stuck around. But I'm also very, like, I'm not into violence. It's not my thing. I get very freaked out. So, like, I don't watch scary movies. I don't like. I don't like blood. So when things get like that, which is probably why I'm always going to be a friend of a housewife, I can't do it.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah, I get it. Remember that scene in Amsterdam, the Beverly Hills Housewives, when she.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Yes.

[Jeff Lewis]

And of course, that's what that scene.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Felt like to me. Yes, yes. It was not like that.

[Jeff Lewis]

So I thought that was great that.

[Jennifer Fessler]

You stood up in love. Really?

[Jeff Lewis]

I did.

[Jennifer Fessler]

I got mixed feedback on that. What do you think?

[Jeff Lewis]

I think it's good.

[Doug Buden]

I think that when you got up and left, didn't it start diffusing everything? Didn't everybody start?

[Jeff Lewis]

Well, it went up and down. But what it did is it showed who Jen is. Right. You weren't, like, playing one of those, like, I need to be here because of the show and because of what it could do to my career, like, you were being you.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Well, I was standing there for a while. I remember I was, like, just sort of staring at that train, you know, the train outside of rails. And I had, like, my therapist's voice in my head, like, what are your intentions? This has to make sense. If your intentions are just to be famous and just to make money, this is never going to work out for you. And so I remember I had all of that kind of, like, running through my head, and I thought, this is not. I don't want to be in this. This is not for me. I don't want to be where glass is shattered.

[Doug Buden]

I don't think there's anything wrong. It became a potentially dangerous situation.

[Jennifer Fessler]

That's how I felt.

[Doug Buden]

And toxic and very unhealthy. I probably would have done the same thing.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Thank you.

[Doug Buden]

Get up and leave.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Thank you.

[Doug Buden]

Nothing good was gonna. At that point, nothing good was gonna happen.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Well, so I go outside, right? I leave and I call Jeff Fessler. And I said, I just left. Glass was shattering. And he goes, what the fuck? Get it back in there.

[Doug Buden]

Why are you leaving? Oh, he likes that other stream of video.

[Jennifer Fessler]

He wasn't kidding. Like, we laughed about it after, but he was literally. He's yelling at me, why would you do that?

[Shane]

That was my first reaction. It's like, you're at work and you can't just kind of walk out. But I get it. Because it wasn't a safe.

[Jennifer Fessler]

No, I Get that, too. And I do get that, like, when you sign up for this, the walking out thing is not appreciated. I do get that.

[Doug Buden]

I'm just throwing it out there. How long have you been married to Jeff? It's been a while.

[Jennifer Fessler]

25 years.

[Doug Buden]

Is it possible that he's trying to encourage you to have to be financially independent so he could leave without paying alimony? Because Jeff's smart. I talked to him a little before the show. He's smart.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Honey, let me tell you something. 25 years is a lifetime alimony situation. I don't care what anyone says. And let me tell you another thing. I love being on the Housewives. It ain't paying the mortgage yet. Okay. This. My trajectory on the Housewives, I doubt is going to be, like, leading me into, like, Teresa and Melissa.

[Doug Buden]

Not that kind of money.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Yes.

[Doug Buden]

Oh, so Jeff's disappointed.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Yes.

[Jeff Lewis]

But isn't that a reason why they would want to keep Jen because she doesn't cost the same?

[Doug Buden]

Yeah, she's a value.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Cheap labor.

[Doug Buden]

Yeah.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Thank you.

[Doug Buden]

You're a good deal.

[Jeff Lewis]

We don't use the word cheap.

[Jennifer Fessler]

I don't care. I'll be cheap. I've been called worse now.

[Doug Buden]

You have. You have been very open about the fact that you aren't Ozempic.

[Jennifer Fessler]

I am.

[Doug Buden]

Now. Do you go on for a while, then off for a while, or how does it work?

[Jennifer Fessler]

I stay on and I will be on forever.

[Doug Buden]

Forever.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Well, I don't. I mean, who knows what's going to happen? Maybe I won't give a shit anymore in another 20 years, but, like, I don't have any plan to go off of it. And I always feel bad because, like everybody says, ozempic. I'm on Zepbound. Like, we should push the other brands as well.

[Doug Buden]

Oh, I didn't know that.

[Jennifer Fessler]

I don't know which one Zepbound is. They're all Mounjuro, Zepbound, Tri, Zepa, Tirzepatide. Tirzepatide.

[Jeff Lewis]

I think that's the actual drug.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Semiglutide is the generic Ozempic.

[Jeff Lewis]

Right?

[Jennifer Fessler]

Right.

[Doug Buden]

Doug, what are you on? Cause it doesn't. What are you on?

[Jennifer Fessler]

Are you kidding me?

[Doug Buden]

I stopped.

[Jeff Lewis]

I'm on. I take, among other things, I do take Mounjaro.

[Doug Buden]

Okay.

[Jeff Lewis]

And you know what? Here's what I think, because I know you're going to say ones are going to start working. Here's the thing. If I didn't take it, maybe I would be much bigger. So maybe it is working at you.

[Doug Buden]

Reframing.

[Jeff Lewis]

I listened to your show.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Glass half full.

[Doug Buden]

Do you emotionally eat?

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah, for sure. Because not about hunger.

[Doug Buden]

Gary Brody was on yesterday and he said he was on one of those medications, but it's not working for him. And I'm getting. I think he's like an emotional eater that probably will even eat when he's not hungry. Were you ever that way?

[Jennifer Fessler]

Always. I was. I've had. I've been riddled with eating disorders, and I was a bulimic all throughout my 20s, and food did not really have a lot to do with hunger. Yeah. So. But with this magic pill. I'm sorry, I just. That's how I feel like. That's what I feel like. It is. It's like, even if it's. If I'm emotional or depressed as I'm eating, I'm like, ugh. You get this. Ick. I never got that before. I never felt like, you know, I couldn't get. When people didn't finish the last bite on their plate. Like, what are you talking about? You're full. I didn't have that mechanism. And now I just, you know, it just doesn't do what it used to do. I don't have.

[Doug Buden]

So you're not craving? No cravings.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Yes. I do still crave and I do still eat. I really do. I mean, I still have a. But I feel like I have an appetite of sort of a normal quote unquote, whatever that means appetite. I don't eat until I want to puke and then still keep eating.

[Doug Buden]

So it's late at night, you're watching tv. What do you go grab out of the refrigerator? Out of the pantry? What's your go to?

[Jennifer Fessler]

Oh, well, I mean, cheez its are everything to me.

[Jeff Lewis]

You're goldfish, right? For you?

[Doug Buden]

Well, those are Monroe's. I'm trying to stay away from them, but yeah, they've. I've. Sometimes I get weak Cheez its.

[Jennifer Fessler]

It's funny. When I was younger, it was always chocolate and sugar. And now it's changed. It is. It has changed over the years. Yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

Have you had the Baked Ritz? No, no. Go for the Baked Ritz. And they are so fucking smart because it's not a Ziploc closure. So you just got to eat the whole bag. Oh, you just have to.

[Doug Buden]

Or just transfer it into a Ziploc. Right. But we'll just eat the whole bag.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah, that's what I do. Oh, no, I don't want to waste. Because I don't want to waste a Ziploc.

[Doug Buden]

I won't eat the Whole thing. Because I'll beat myself up, but I'll eat half, wrap it up, and then tomorrow. Tomorrow the other.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah, they're really, really good, these baked Ritz crackers.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Nice.

[Doug Buden]

Do you want to promote? Because I know the Holiday Bundle, the CK Holiday Bundle, is doing really well.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yes. A lot of people.

[Doug Buden]

And by accident. It's doing well. By accident, Jen.

[Jeff Lewis]

It's true.

[Jennifer Fessler]

What does that mean?

[Doug Buden]

Because Doug is smart. He's been sending this truffle salt, his truffle salt, to housewives.

[Jennifer Fessler]

So what happens is not friends of. I guess.

[Doug Buden]

Oh, yeah, you're right.

[Jennifer Fessler]

We always get the short end of the stick.

[Doug Buden]

That's so true. We don't send it to friends.

[Jeff Lewis]

What happened is, as I meet somebody and we talk about those, I send a jar. So I met Dolores, I sent her a jar. I met Dorinda, I sent her a jar. And then they talked about it without. I mean, I didn't ask for anything in return, but it's really, really good salt. So it is true. This week, people have been talking about it.

[Jennifer Fessler]

I know you've met Jen Fessler, so eight mil, Glenn. Cool. I will send you. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

[Doug Buden]

But she is the first friend of that you'll ever send free salt to. Right?

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah, of course. I think you're right.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Wow.

[Jeff Lewis]

And I'm happy to.

[Jennifer Fessler]

I really appreciate that.

[Jeff Lewis]

Are you? Yeah.

[Doug Buden]

Jen and I, Jeff and Emily and Shane, we're all witnesses today. Thank God. I had two attorneys present. So your friend Emily here is here, who's an attorney. Jeff Fessler here is an attorney. This is going to be important for us because we had witnessed. Doug, I don't know if you're feeling guilty, like, I don't know why you would tell us this, but basically, we all know that Doug's mother is a wealthy woman. And Doug has been waiting for her to die. She's 88, and he's very concerned about how she's spending her money. Because very soon it'll be Doug's.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yes. Well, no, I'm. Listen, I'm concerned because my mom is 88, and we. You know, cognitive things start to happen when you're 88 and you don't want her to stop. I get nervous that she's going to answer an email. She's going to answer. She got a text this morning, like, you know, about your Netflix or your Amazon account. And I said, mom, that's not.

[Doug Buden]

You canceled her Netflix. You told us that this morning.

[Jeff Lewis]

Well, I did.

[Shane]

How she's supposed to watch it. Nobody Wants this.

[Jeff Lewis]

She doesn't know how to find the Netflix audience.

[Jennifer Fessler]

He did her a favor. He was doing her. She was so frustrated. She was a monster.

[Jeff Lewis]

She asked me to change the battery in the TV remote, and it was a calculator. So we're like, you know, I gotta limit. I don't want her to have too many options.

[Jennifer Fessler]

So nice of you.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah.

[Doug Buden]

But you have canceled her opera subscription to save you and your sister because you now deem it your money over $3,000.

[Shane]

But she loves the opera.

[Doug Buden]

You looked at your mother's TV watching history to determine what apps she was watching, what streaming services, and you canceled.

[Jeff Lewis]

The one she signed up for everything. She had, like, 35. I said, mom, what do you watch on Acorn? She said, what's that? I said, I don't know. But you don't have it anymore. What is it? Epics. Strict. There were dozens of these things.

[Doug Buden]

So Doug is very, very. I mean, you obviously are. You know all about her finances, her expenditures, what's coming in, what's going out to the point where you had said that round the clock hair is costing you $6,384.22 a week.

[Jeff Lewis]

Do you. I mean, that's a lot of money. $6,384.22 a week.

[Doug Buden]

And you said it was costing you.

[Jeff Lewis]

Right. Okay. That is.

[Doug Buden]

Which Jen Fess was like, wait a minute. Isn't it her money? So what happened this morning is Doug had a small piece of art in his backpack, which is his mother's.

[Jeff Lewis]

No, the backpack is mine.

[Doug Buden]

Okay. Oh, yes. The art was your mother. So basically I'm like, what are you doing with that art? And you're getting it framed for your mom today?

[Jennifer Fessler]

Yes.

[Jeff Lewis]

It's nice.

[Doug Buden]

That's very nice.

[Jeff Lewis]

Thank you.

[Doug Buden]

And why is he doing that, Jen Fessler?

[Jennifer Fessler]

Because he stole a piece of art from her home and shipped it back to Los Angeles and need something to cover the hole in the wall.

[Doug Buden]

Exactly. Now, that is true.

[Jeff Lewis]

It's just left Utah. I just checked on Utah.

[Doug Buden]

I asked him what it was worth, and remember, he said he paid $7,500 for it. But then you said, but it was your mom's money, so you actually didn't pay for it.

[Jeff Lewis]

Well, I paid her back, just not. I didn't write her a check.

[Jennifer Fessler]

You just didn't give her the money, but in a sense, you paid her back with your love.

[Jeff Lewis]

Exactly.

[Jennifer Fessler]

And your time.

[Jeff Lewis]

I paid a lot of money.

[Doug Buden]

What is it worth now? That piece of art that you took.

[Jeff Lewis]

Off the wall less than the piece that's in my backpack. What do you think of that?

[Doug Buden]

Okay, the one in the backpack was $25,000.

[Jeff Lewis]

The one that I sent, that I own, that it's on its way to la, is considerably less. Okay, so my mom is actually making. I'm doing her a favor.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Yeah, this is.

[Doug Buden]

We've talked about this, Jeff. This is a sociopath. And now we're witnessing art theft. We are accessories, gentlemen.

[Jennifer Fessler]

I just said that we're accessories.

[Doug Buden]

I don't know why you're talking about.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Yes, we are, but wait till you see this.

[Jeff Lewis]

You're gonna. You'll come to my house, you'll see this.

[Doug Buden]

I feel like we are obligated to call the police.

[Jennifer Fessler]

I do too.

[Jeff Lewis]

No, no, no, no, no. Such calls are ne. And the police were actually just at my house in la. We get along. We're good.

[Doug Buden]

Now, see, what I.

[Jeff Lewis]

What I told you my alarm went off.

[Doug Buden]

Did they find the shed?

[Jeff Lewis]

I told you my alarm went off. Oh, no, the alarm went off and the police came and I talked to them through my ring camera while they were on my driveway.

[Doug Buden]

You're the only person in LA that the police show up for.

[Jeff Lewis]

Well, it took them about 40 minutes from when ADT called me to say. They said, you have a break in. We just want to make sure you're okay. I said, well, I'm in New York. And they said, okay, we'll send the police. It took them about 40 minutes.

[Doug Buden]

Now, also, back to your mother. So you feel now that she does not need round the clock care. So Even though she's 88, she broke her kneecap and her elbow. You have now reduced the nurse down to eight hours, is that correct? Or 12.

[Jeff Lewis]

This is truly upon her insistence. She does not want.

[Doug Buden]

Oh, really?

[Jeff Lewis]

She does not want anybody there.

[Doug Buden]

But she also said she has like onset dementia. Right.

[Jeff Lewis]

Well, she has. Yeah, she's got some cognitive decline.

[Doug Buden]

So she says, get rid of the caretakers. And you're like, sure, Mom. Well, I said, are you hoping she falls again?

[Jeff Lewis]

No, I said, we're not getting rid of the daytime. She does not want anybody there at all. And I said, no, that we have to have somebody there during the day. So now there'll be somebody there 8am to 8pm and then she's fine on.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Her own at night in the dark, getting up out of bed, go to the bathroom.

[Jeff Lewis]

She has a walker. She used the walker for the first time yesterday. She walked from 2nd Avenue and 68th street to her place on the upper left.

[Doug Buden]

That's the way he just did. Justifies.

[Jeff Lewis]

Truly, she doesn't want.

[Doug Buden]

I feel like she might need some more care. But I know you don't want to spend the money. You know what you could do? Why don't you sell the piece of art? Oh, we can't. That's on its way to Los Angeles.

[Jeff Lewis]

But it'll be safe.

[Doug Buden]

Does your sister know you're stealing? Because it's basically half hers.

[Shane]

Shut up.

[Jeff Lewis]

She doesn't have Serious. It's not hers. That was mine. That was my piece of art.

[Doug Buden]

I kind of feel like all the assets are supposed to be divided evenly, right? Yes, but you're the executor.

[Jeff Lewis]

No, no, no. I think we split. I think my sister and I are splits.

[Doug Buden]

Do we have the sister's number? I don't think she knows.

[Shane]

No.

[Doug Buden]

And I think that's why you're putting that piece of art back up. Because your sister's not gonna notice. It's not for your mother. It's for your sister.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah. She wants to.

[Doug Buden]

So you've already. So let's just say the painting's worth 20 grand. You've already stolen $10,000 from your sister. You stole $20,000 from the estate, but you stole 10,000 from your sister.

[Jeff Lewis]

You know, but my sister is local. I feel like she has a lot more opportunities to.

[Doug Buden]

To steal things from my mother.

[Jeff Lewis]

That's. That's true. That's why I come so often. I gotta see what's changed. That could be my sister.

[Doug Buden]

By the way. I missed this call, but I think this guy Brett was saying that you're not taking a large enough dosage of Manjaro.

[Jeff Lewis]

I'm on the max. It don't come bigger than that.

[Doug Buden]

I. Seriously?

[Jeff Lewis]

Seriously.

[Doug Buden]

Then maybe you need to switch. What are you on, Jen?

[Jennifer Fessler]

Yes, that's what I said. I'm debt bound.

[Jeff Lewis]

I. Actually, the truth is, I was one of those people that could not leave with any food left over. And now I do. I don't feel the need to empty my plate. And when I was on the airplane, I didn't even touch the beef. I said, I'm not interested. That is definitely because of.

[Jennifer Fessler]

That's huge. Right? Because most people want to touch the beef.

[Jeff Lewis]

On the airplane, I would have eaten shoe leather.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Yes.

[Jeff Lewis]

If they put it in front of me. And now I don't.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Fair.

[Doug Buden]

So every morning when Monroe gets up here while we're here, we order breakfast. And it's not like it's the American breakfast. You get toast, you get potatoes, you get scrambled eggs. You get bacon, orange juice, and coffee and some fruit. Right? It's big breakfast.

[Jeff Lewis]

That's nice.

[Doug Buden]

So let me tell you how much that costs. It is $55, then $19 for the delivery fee, the room service charge. Then there's also gratuity added, which gets you to 70. Gets $90. 90. Then it says additional gratuity. And I'm like, oh, the guy's, like, working his ass off. I'm gonna give him another $10. Hundred breakfast.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Eggs.

[Doug Buden]

$100 breakfast. And we've. And we're on breakfast. We're on breakfast number three today. $300. Three breakfasts.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

That is.

[Doug Buden]

She better fucking eat everything.

[Shane]

We. We just go buy eggs and toast?

[Jeff Lewis]

Well, yeah. Why can't you get it to go?

[Jennifer Fessler]

Why don't you stay at the Marriott? There's a whole free buffet downstairs.

[Doug Buden]

If she keeps eating like that, I'm gonna put her on Ozempic. I mean, that's a hundred dollars for.

[Shane]

Her to get some white toast, get cake.

[Jeff Lewis]

Why do you have to have it, like, sent up like that? Just go to the lobby, get it to go.

[Jennifer Fessler]

No, that's the whole fun of the hotel.

[Doug Buden]

Wait, what? Where is. I don't think there is anything in the lobby.

[Shane]

In the bar, during the day, they serve breakfast.

[Doug Buden]

You didn't tell me that.

[Shane]

Why would you spend $100 for $100?

[Doug Buden]

I'll send you down to get her breakfast.

[Jeff Lewis]

It'll cost you less.

[Doug Buden]

And you know this.

[Shane]

I've sat with you and eaten there before.

[Doug Buden]

Was it free?

[Shane]

No.

[Doug Buden]

Oh, okay.

[Jeff Lewis]

And you've got to scrutinize that bill. Remember when you. When we all stayed in San Francisco, they charged me for nuts and something else that I didn't have in my.

[Doug Buden]

Oh, she's been hitting the mini bar.

[Shane]

She gets a lot of Pringles.

[Doug Buden]

And I keep telling her. I keep telling her it's $14. Yeah, she got Pringles. It was $14, and she's already had two of them. Like $28 in Pringles. Stop hitting the mini bar.

[Jeff Lewis]

But go buy some of the same.

[Doug Buden]

Size and replace line two. Thinks you're a sociopath, Doug. Oh, Michelle in Texas.

[Jeff Lewis]

Michelle, hi.

[Doug Buden]

You're right. You're right.

[Jeff Lewis]

Michelle. Oh, they can't take your call.

[Doug Buden]

The phones aren't working. Sorry, do you unplug the phones?

[Jeff Lewis]

I work here now. What else do you want to talk to?

[Doug Buden]

Are the phones not working?

[Jeff Lewis]

One second, hold on.

[Doug Buden]

Scott tell you Tinks called me last night.

[Jeff Lewis]

What?

[Doug Buden]

She was pissed because the phones were down again and she and I complained about the same things at SiriusXM. She's like, how do you have a call in show when the phones don't work?

[Shane]

That's what's gonna say her show is.

[Jeff Lewis]

About, we have a call in.

[Doug Buden]

You think this studio is nice? We have the state of the art, like almost brand new studio. They spent millions and millions of minutes. Phones don't work. So imagine doing a call in show phones network.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Whose Tinks.

[Doug Buden]

Oh, you don't know Tinks? She's an icon.

[Jennifer Fessler]

I'm sorry. Tinks.

[Doug Buden]

All right, Michelle. Yes, all right.

[Jennifer Fessler]

I don't think he's a sociopath.

[Doug Buden]

I just think he has a touch of the tism. But you don't. I mean, Michelle, he stole the art. You agree, right? He took it. It's not his.

[Jeff Lewis]

Well, maybe that's because it's mine.

[Doug Buden]

It is not yours.

[Shane]

You didn't pay for it.

[Jennifer Fessler]

But she gave it. She said, this is for you, baby.

[Jeff Lewis]

It's yours. Yes. When it was up for sale, she called me, she said, I think we should buy this. Do you want to own this? I said, yeah. She said, well, I'll pay for it. And you couldn't pay me back. I said, great.

[Doug Buden]

But you never paid her back.

[Jennifer Fessler]

I paid her back.

[Doug Buden]

It's not yours. You never paid her back.

[Jeff Lewis]

I pay her back. Does that mean I have to write her a check?

[Doug Buden]

Yes, that's what that means, I think helping.

[Jeff Lewis]

Why do you get so technical about.

[Doug Buden]

These sorts of things? Oh, my God. So, Michelle. So when my grandmother, as she got older, she started having conversations like, hey, I've got three sets of china. Like, do you, which one do you want? Which one do your brothers want? You know, we kind of went through and had an idea. She knew the things that were dear to me. She knew the things that were dear to my brothers didn't give a shit. It was more like their wives, what they wanted. But it's not like I just, I backed up the car and just started loading the china in. I actually had the decency and respect to wait for, to actually pass.

[Jeff Lewis]

I am doing that with some of the things, but others I want to get my hands on.

[Doug Buden]

I mean, I'm surprised you're not having an estate sale with her there on the sofa.

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh, did you. You didn't get the email? Saturday from 12 to 4? My grandmother did do that. She said, pick. She had all these like little sculptures and she said to me, pick which one you want. And so I said, really? She said, pick one. So I said, okay. That's nice. And she takes it off the shelf and she looks at the bottom of it and she goes, no, it's Allison's.

[Jennifer Fessler]

Pick a different one.

[Jeff Lewis]

And she had little labels with people's names on.

[Doug Buden]

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