Jennifer Fessler & Michael Beck: Flirty Texts & Extra-Large

Summary

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Jeff Lewis Has Issues

Guests: Jennifer Fessler & Michael Beck

Theme: Flirty Texts & Extra-Large
Date: May 22, 2026
Host: Jeff Lewis

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Episode Overview

In this very candid, humor-filled episode, Jeff Lewis is joined by Real Housewives of New Jersey's Jennifer Fessler and producer Michael Beck. The trio dives headfirst into the swirling rumors about Jennifer’s alleged affair with a younger Bravo star, Wes Wilson, confronts tabloid gossip, and offers their takes on modern scandal culture. Along the way, they swap cheeky banter about body image, cosmetic surgery, relationships, and the playfully toxic dynamics within their Bravo-adjacent social circle. Fan calls bring even more wild theories and comic relief.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Rumored Affair: Jen Fessler & Wes Wilson

• Context: Rumors are flying that Jen Fessler had an affair with much-younger West Wilson (‘Summer House’), causing emotional fallout with Ciara, another cast member.
• Jennifer’s Stance: Jen adamantly denies the affair, calling the rumors “the most disgusting thing I have ever heard” (04:48) and jokes, “I’ve never given a blowjob in my life.” (04:50)
• Backstory: Jen describes a confounding web of connections between Wes, Ciara, Amanda, and others, which led to many misinterpretations and “scandals” (05:16–08:00).
• Jeff’s Perspective: Jeff encourages Jen to lean into her new “villain” status, highlighting how lucrative it can be in the reality TV world. “I would embrace being a villain because I will tell you, it is very lucrative. I speak from experience.” (04:14)
• Fan & Media Culture: The crew reflects on how hard it is to fight rumors: “You can go out and you can talk to 17 different podcasts and you can release Instagram posts. And the reality of it is you can't make people believe. They're going to believe what they want to believe.” (03:29)

2. Text-Gate: Flirty Messages and Cancel Culture

• Jeff’s Theory: Jeff alleges Jen may have a “texting relationship” with Wes similar to their own sarcastic exchange: “I could get you canceled if you weren't already canceled.” (08:08)
• Jen’s Response: She sent all her texts with Wes to their producer, who “didn’t even bother to read them.” (09:28) Their texts are described as “very funny, flirtatious, sarcastic, jokey kind of relationship.” (12:00)
• Culture of Outrage: The group debates the power of out-of-context messages and how easy it is to get “canceled” based on playful banter.

3. Reputation, Slut-Shaming & Embracing Scandal

• Fan Calls: Many female callers express admiration for Jen turning scandal into opportunity and breaking age/sexuality taboos. “As a 35-year-old woman, I need to see older women have scandals and you’re hot.” (16:02 – Ashley, FL)
• Jen’s Humorous Take: Jen jokes about her “tubular breasts” and multiple surgeries, making light of the sexual rumors and calling herself a potential MILF (17:03).
• Michael Beck on Fame: “These girls on these shows, they're so wrapped up in these fuckboys. Sierra is a queen. She should not be lowering herself to these men... additionally, it's the best thing that ever happened to Ariana's career. And hers. And now I see Sierra's and mine, not Jen's.” (13:34)

4. Emotional Fallout and Impact on Family

• Family’s Reaction: Jen’s daughter was initially upset about the backlash (“how could you do that to Ciara?”) but “got past it.” (14:17)
• On Navigating Scandal: Jen and Jeff discuss the spillover onto their spouses and children, especially when partners didn’t “sign up” for fame and its dark side (15:01–15:06).

5. Body Image, Cosmetic Surgery, and 'Extra-Large’ Anxiety

• Jeff & Michael’s Body Talk: Lighthearted discussion about GLP1 (weight loss medication), changing bodies, stylists pulling ‘extra large’ clothes (“if you want to keep this job, don’t you ever pull an extra large” – Jeff, 34:05), and their insecurities about aging.
• Jen’s Surgeries: Hilarious recounting of multiple boob jobs and an “internal bra” surgery—she jokes her breasts were “attached to my stomach… had to have a mesh bra inside” (48:12).

6. Career Opportunities and the Reality TV Machine

• New Shows & Prospects: Jeff and Michael encourage Jen to “lean in” to her notoriety for more TV and OnlyFans opportunities (“You need somebody to go through all these offers that are coming your way” — 28:03).
• Michael’s Update: Discusses producing “Lisa Las Vegas,” a new Lisa Vanderpump spin-off, while reflecting on the ever-churning Bravo universe (38:43–41:02).

7. Fan Calls and Wild Theories

• Callers Suggest:
  • “Your name is a decoy for Amanda.” (19:05 – Rachel, LA)
  • “Fat bitches give the best head; flip this into a seminar or OnlyFans!” (20:50 – Rose, Utah)
• Jen’s Humor: “I’ve never been interested in Jeff (husband)… I hurt him. It was a—I had teeth. I traumatized him.” (21:19)

8. Legal and Professional Risks

• Jeff Warns: Making public accusations without proof can lead to legal disaster and astronomical costs for all involved (“You better be damn sure 150% you are correct because you could lose everything you have ever worked for.” – 50:06)
• Jen’s Decision: “This is the last time I’m speaking about it.” (51:27)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Jen on Rumors:
  “I’ve never given a blowjob in my life. That is the most disgusting thing I have ever heard.”
  (04:50 – Jennifer Fessler)
• Jeff on Villainy:
  “I would embrace being a villain because I will tell you, it is very lucrative.”
  (04:14 – Jeff Lewis)
• Michael on Tabloid Cycles:
  “These girls on these shows, they're so wrapped up in these fuckboys... It's the best thing that ever happened to Ariana's career.”
  (13:34 – Michael Beck)
• Fan Appreciation:
  “As a 35-year-old woman, I need to see older women have scandals and you’re hot.”
  (16:02 – Ashley, Caller)
• Jen on Family’s Reaction:
  “My daughter Rachel got pissed because she did not like that I was fucking with Ciara.”
  (14:17 – Jennifer Fessler)
• On Cosmetic Surgery:
  “My boob was attached to my stomach. So we had to…release it. Then…he had to put a mesh bra inside.”
  (48:12 – Jennifer Fessler)
• Jeff on Litigation:
  “You’re going to go to court for years and years, spend hundred thousand dollars to win nothing and lose hundreds of thousands of dollars and two to three years of your life?”
  (51:19 – Jeff Lewis)
• Call-in Gold:
  “Fat bitches give the best head… you should flip this into F, instead of F major…do like an OnlyFans or seminars!”
  (20:50 – Rose, Utah, Caller)

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Important Timestamps

| Topic / Segment | Timestamp | |----------------------------------------------------------|--------------| | Welcome & Guest Intros | 01:14–01:52 | | Michael’s weight loss journey & Ozempic talk | 02:02–02:46 | | Rumors, gossip and the timeline debate | 03:29–08:00 | | The tone of mock-flirty texting with Wes | 08:08–13:00 | | Jen addresses specifics about the rumored “hookup” | 14:17–15:38 | | Fan calls: reactions and theories | 16:53–21:03 | | Cosmetic surgery, internal bras & body banter | 17:36–18:35, 48:07–48:46 | | OnlyFans, monetizing scandal, party hosting offers | 23:51–28:03 | | Legal consequences & culture of litigiousness | 50:02–51:35 | | Michael’s new Lisa Vanderpump project | 38:43–41:02 | | End: “This is the last time I’m speaking about it.” | 51:27 |

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Tone & Dynamic

The tone is irreverent, self-deprecating, and brutally honest—equal parts confessional, confiding, and comic. The interplay is rapid-fire and brash, with constant inside jokes (“You’re a MILF”), playful insults, and an open acknowledgment of the perverse incentives in reality TV and tabloid culture. Even at its most scathing, the banter remains affectionate and in good humor.

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Takeaway

This episode is both a take-down and celebration of reality TV scandal culture. It’s about owning your public narrative, weathering gossip with humor (and an occasional eyeroll), and the complicated spillover fame can have on personal and family life. If you love Bravo drama, messy friendship, and unfiltered talk about the price of notoriety, this is a must-listen.

“You can’t make people believe. They’re going to believe what they want to believe.”
(03:29 – Jeff Lewis)

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Transcript

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[B]

When you're Jeff Lewis, the drama never stops.

[A]

For the last is a decade you've been covering disasters. That's right. That's why he's here.

[B]

The math ain't mathin' and the gay ain't gayin'.

[A]

Later you're gonna need to do maintenance.

[B]

Why? To be attractive. For who?

[A]

Oh, for us.

[B]

Jeff Lewis has issues.

[A]

Hey, welcome to Jeff Lewis has Issues. In today's episode, Jennifer Fessler and Michael Beck join the show. We talk about Michael's upcoming trip to Las Vegas and my extra large problem. Plus, Jen denies rumors that she slept with a younger man. Good morning, Michael.

[C]

Good morning to me.

[A]

How are you feeling today?

[C]

I feel well, a little nauseous for one. But I also feel very honored to be here with the messy fessy. I feel like it's a big day.

[A]

The most famous Bravo lebrity in history.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Infamous.

[A]

Infamous. Yes.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And what's new with you, Jen?

[B]

Shut the fuck up. You're such an asshole.

[A]

So seriously, Michael, I do want to know about this. Ret or true tide? Yeah, you started it three weeks ago.

[C]

I started it three weeks ago and today is my shot day. And I upped my dose a tiny bit today and it's the first time I feel nauseous.

[A]

So have you lost any weight? Because I can't tell.

[C]

I think so. People keep telling me I have, but I haven't weighed myself.

[A]

Who told you you have?

[C]

Everyone. Everyone today told me. Who? Olivia told me.

[A]

Wait, did you tell him? Kian.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

No. James. Did you tell him?

[B]

I said I liked his shirt, but that's it.

[C]

Somebody Said it. I remember hearing it.

[A]

I don't think anyone said it.

[B]

I actually said it, but I was just coming on to you.

[C]

Oh, thank you. Thank you. Maybe that's why I'm nauseous.

[A]

It is a nice.

[C]

I'm kidding.

[D]

No, you guys showed us a.

[A]

It is a nice color on you.

[C]

Thank you so much.

[A]

Yeah, that's a really good color. I've never seen him wear that color.

[D]

Not me either. It's pretty.

[C]

Is it slimming?

[D]

It's a nice color.

[A]

It is a pretty color. It matches your eyes.

[B]

It's kind of like cable knit polo.

[C]

What about my haircut? I feel like I cut my hair and I thought it thinned out my face.

[D]

I am pro haircut. I like it.

[A]

I like the haircut. I think when you first cut it, which was like two weeks ago, it was, you know, they obviously do it a little too short, but right now it's growing. It's like a grown out bust. Do you like it?

[B]

Do I like it? I like more of a shaggy blonde look.

[C]

Oh, you know what I mean?

[B]

You know what I'm saying?

[A]

I heard that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, I really did hear that. How you doing over there?

[B]

I'm just fucking great, Jeff. How you doing?

[C]

She's really shaky today. I have noticed that. She was trying to show me some.

[A]

Don't be afraid.

[C]

Her hand was shaky.

[A]

Don't be afraid. I got your back.

[C]

It's.

[B]

You do have my back. And I want to tell you something. I appreciate that.

[A]

I told her, I said, look, you know, I've been doing this for a long time. I have been the subject of the most vicious gossip. And what I will tell you is you can go out and you can talk to 17 different podcasts and you can release Instagram posts. And the reality of it is you can't make. Make people believe. Right? They're going to believe what they want to believe.

[B]

After this, I'm done.

[A]

And you, that's what, unfortunately, that's what you signed up for. That's the, you know, the negatives really of this business. But what I will tell you, because I was thinking about you this morning, is that this has created a lot of opportunities for you, right? So you could very easily do traders now. You could do House of Villains. I would embrace being a villain because I will tell you, it is very lucrative.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, right, right.

[A]

I speak from experience, right.

[B]

It doesn't matter that people think I'm a dirty whore, as long as I'm making money.

[A]

Yeah, it's weird.

[C]

Cause Jen is so Sweet. And she's always been so sweet. And so I don't think of her as a villain. Thank you. I do hover and I say this with love. I do think of her as one of the thirstiest Bravo liberties out there.

[B]

Yeah. You're not alone.

[C]

Yeah. So I'm surprised that she's not taking this to the bank.

[B]

Right. Well, I mean, you don't know what's really going on behind the scenes.

[C]

Oh, right, right. Okay.

[B]

Feasibly, I set the whole thing up.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

And in this whole thing they've said that she's given the best blowjob of all time. So I would not be offended at all.

[B]

Listen, and I don't. I like the idea that people are saying that. People. If people want to know the truth, they'll believe it or they won't. But I've never given a blowjob in my life. That is the most disgusting thing I have ever heard.

[C]

Oh, so you are a villain.

[B]

Yes. Okay.

[C]

Okay, got it.

[A]

Well, see, no one was ever gonna believe that.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And no one was ever.

[B]

I'm not giving like that. I'm more of a taker.

[A]

And no one, especially your husband, believes that people look at you in a sexual way.

[B]

Correct. That's why he knows it's not true.

[A]

No, I do. Because I have not followed the whole summer house. I mean, obviously I've heard all of the gossip and Shane was explaining it to me yesterday that. So west was with Ciara and then Amanda was with Kyle.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

And then Kyle and Amanda married, they break up and west dates Amanda.

[D]

That was the big scandal last month.

[C]

But, but, but Sierra and Amanda were best friends.

[A]

Right? I understand the betrayal. I get all that. I understand where she's coming from. I think she has probably every reason to be upset and angry.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Now, now pile on. That. That then he sleeps with Jen Fessler.

[A]

Yes, but I. Okay, so let's just say. Let's just play this, you know, alternate world where a young guy finds you attractive.

[B]

Right.

[A]

So does this happen during. While Ciara is with West? And is that why she's so upset with you?

[B]

I think Ciara was with Wes like what, like four years ago?

[D]

Like three.

[A]

I just don't know what it would. Why she would be coming up with

[C]

them two years ago. So that doesn't even make sense.

[B]

And I didn't know. Right. I didn't know him three years ago while they were together. So I guess he wasn't cheating on Ciara when he fucked me.

[A]

I see.

[C]

Right, right, right.

[A]

Okay. Yeah. Cause I was wondering, like, okay, let's just say. Let's just say this happened. What is. Why is Sierra can say, like, I'm

[B]

afraid to make jokes. Wait, you guys, I'm like, afraid to make jokes about it. Like, I see the clips. Like, what, am I supposed to make jokes about this or.

[A]

No, I would.

[C]

Okay, well, that's what I was wondering. I wanted to understand the timeline too, because I want to understand why Sierra is so mad and also.

[B]

But you're saying, like, understand the timeline. It did not happen. Yes.

[A]

No, no. We're playing a game here. We're playing a game. Let's just say this did happen. Why is she so upset about it, is what I want to know.

[B]

Well, I don't think she is.

[A]

Did this imaginary hookup?

[B]

No, I went on the red carpet and said something to the effect of I love Wes Wilson. He's like a golden retriever puppy. I probably went overboard. He has hurt people. But I. He's been my friend for a while now. He's been my friend for a while now. Yeah, so. And I don't know Sierra, except for we had a plane ride right after Bravocon where we had such a nice talk and she got, you know, we both, like left the plane, gave each other a hug. Bye, sweet Jen. Bye, sweet Ciara. So I guess at that point she. This was after filming of this past summer's Bravo Summerhouse. So I don't. She was very sweet to me then. So I don't know. Yeah.

[A]

You had a nice. You had a nice rapport, did you not with Ciara.

[B]

I don't know her well. But on that airplane ride. Yes, very nice. We had like, kind of like this nice intimate conversation. I just thought she was so sweet. I actually text west after. Sierra's the best.

[A]

Okay, so this screws up my theory because I figured because. Okay, so first of all, the way that Jen texts me, she's so mean. She's so bullying. I could get. If I release those texts, I could get you canceled if you weren't already canceled.

[B]

Well, right, because you're always so sweet and innocent when you text.

[A]

Well, you could get me canceled.

[B]

Correct, Correct.

[A]

So that's why we don't release each other's texts.

[B]

Correct.

[A]

Because this is our love language. We terrorize each other in a very negative way.

[B]

Right.

[A]

So I assumed that you. You had a texting relationship with west that was probably crazy, like the relationship you have with me. And so I just thought, oh, maybe Ciara read those texts.

[B]

Maybe.

[A]

But now the timeline doesn't make sense, because Ciara was with west long before your imaginary hookup.

[C]

Yeah, but apparently on last night's episode or this week's episode of Summer House, you see that Sierra and West are still, like, maybe kissing. Or at least that's what I saw online in the clip, that maybe they're still kissing. So maybe they were, like, trying to rekindle or something in Ciara's mind was that there was gonna be something more there. Again, if.

[A]

Why is she so adamant this happened? My theory is she probably. I mean, allegedly broke into his phone.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Saw some of those texts.

[B]

Right. Which is why I sent you last night. Or, excuse me, I sent Kian every single text between me and West Wilson. And then when I saw you this morning, you said, no, I didn't read that. I don't give a shit.

[A]

Well, true, but I was also at Molly Sim's birthday party, and I was having the time of my life because they had. It was a gambling night and they had roulette, and I was at that table for how many hours?

[D]

No, like, almost two hours.

[A]

Let me just tell you how well I did. They. They handed $1,000 chips when you walked in the door. Okay. When I left that table, I had $16,000.

[C]

No.

[A]

And then what you do is you convert it so they have these really nice prizes. So depending on where you place in the evening, the person with the most money by the end of the night, which was me, won. So I won this. Well, I don't even. I'm still trying to figure out what it is. It's called the Swan. It's a mirror. It's like an $800 mirror. And what it does is it takes pictures of your face. Takes pictures of your face. And then it makes these product recommendations of, like, oh, you have an oily T zone. Use this product. Oh, you have dry skin.

[C]

Oh, you need a zombie.

[A]

Yes. Or you need to. You need some GLP1s.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So I called Monroe on the way home. I go, daddy won a really good prize, and I told her about it, and she goes. She goes, I'm really excited, Daddy. She goes, but it sounds like you might need it more than. I'm like, I just won you an $800 mirror. And this is.

[B]

I'm sorry. Wait, Monroe's nine, right?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So you were gonna bring her home a mirror that told her everything that was wrong with her face?

[A]

No, no, not wrong with her face. Yeah, it's just. She's into makeup. She's in those tutorials. I thought she'd love it. So she is excited about it.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Can you. Do you have it?

[B]

The. The mirror. It's touchscreen vanity mirror, perfect for you, that uses AI and augmented reality to analyze skin health, provide tailored makeup tutorials and other product try ons. I had a perfect gift for a nine year old.

[A]

Well, she's almost 10. She'll be 10 in October.

[D]

She can do virtual makeup.

[A]

But that's why I also, I was like, do I want to go? I don't want to read. Like, I mean, you guys have a long friendship. That's a lot of text. I don't know where to start, where to begin, where to.

[C]

But look, did you scroll for any pictures, like any photos in the text?

[A]

There's no dick pics. There's no. Jen deleted all those.

[B]

I literally sent him. Well, I sent them to Keyan, who swore to me that he read them. And then as soon as I saw you this morning, you said, no fucking way did I read them.

[A]

But look, I got enough just by reading a couple or key and telling me there was a very funny, flirtatious, sarcastic, jokey kind of relationship. Now I was a little jealous. Cause you've never flirted with me, right? You call me fat, nor has anyone. You call me ugly. I mean, we have a very different relationship apparently.

[B]

What part of it is she has

[C]

a fun, flirty relationship with everybody? That's just part of her nature. She's like sweet and fun and flirty.

[B]

Yes, it is. But what part of it? Well, you didn't read them, so I don't know which part you're referring to in terms of.

[A]

Tian told me about them. I might have read like one or two.

[C]

Okay, but what I want to know is, and maybe we have to hear from Sierra about this, but like, what is making Sierra say this? And what in her mind is making this true? Like, did she see something? Did she know something? Did he tell her something?

[B]

Everybody keeps saying that to me. Yeah, I don't know.

[C]

Have you reached out to her since this all started?

[B]

Yeah, Michael, I just. I gave her a quick buzz.

[C]

I thought maybe you guys could clear it up, like if you sent her a text or like, hey, I don't have.

[B]

I don't have her number.

[C]

Okay?

[B]

So, no, I have not reached out to Sierra and she hasn't reached out.

[A]

I wish it was true. I'd give you a chump award. I would. I'd be so proud of you, Jeff, if you. If you could make that happen.

[B]

That's what Jeff Essler said.

[C]

Yeah, I Heard. Okay, so I just got a text saying that allegedly Sierra and West were sleeping together as recently as March. So just a couple months ago.

[D]

So that's why she's so scorned. Yeah, because now he's with Amanda.

[C]

The other thing on the other side of this that I want to say is these girls on these shows, they're so wrapped up in these fuckboys. Like, west is obviously a fuckboy. Right. And same with Tom Sandoval. Like, they're fuckboys. Sierra is a queen and she should not be, you know, lowering himself to these kinds of men and being so upset about this. Additionally, it's the best thing that ever happened to Ariana's career. And so I And hers and now I see Sierra's and mine, not Jen's.

[A]

So not Jen.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Tom's doing good. He's been on House of Villains.

[C]

Yeah, well, so will Jen, apparently.

[A]

Season. What season is it?

[D]

I think three just aired. So four.

[A]

I think it pays well.

[C]

No, but legitimately, how do you feel? Like, how are you feeling about the whole thing?

[B]

At first I thought it was really funny. My whole family thought it was funny. Then my daughter Rachel got pissed because she did not like that I was fucking with Ciara. So she was like, how could you do that to Ciara, Mom? But she's gotten past that. I know you're looking at me like, I'm serious.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Catch up.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

She was like devastated for Ciara. No, we were all laughing about it at the beginning.

[C]

What about Jenny?

[A]

And then it was a joke. But when people believe it.

[B]

Exactly. And then it just didn't feel that funny. And then I couldn't get out of bed. And then I decided this is the stupidest fucking thing and I'm done with it.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I think the tough part about this is when, you know, you signed up for this, but Jeff Fessler did not.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I think that's. And he has a, you know, he has a very prominent job.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And that's the part of. I would be a little, you know, concerned about where I'd feel defensive and correct and wanting. Wanting to make everything better.

[B]

He does not believe it, Michael.

[A]

No, but people at a sperm probably do. No, I bet they all do.

[C]

These are just legit questions. I want to know. I gotta be the voice of the people.

[A]

I'll keep it out.

[B]

Yes, please keep them coming.

[C]

We're gonna clear everything up.

[B]

Keep them coming. Listen, Jeff Fessler is an attorney. He had an attorney response to it, but he has since calmed down. And we have both been advised to just let it go.

[A]

Yeah, that's what you should do, let it go. But here, I mean, here at Jeff Lewis Live, we are celebrating it.

[B]

I know.

[A]

Just in case, just even if it could be true, we would celebrate it here.

[B]

I know. I'm sorry. Yes.

[A]

Look at Ashley in Florida. Line one. She's inspired by you.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Hey, Ashley.

[E]

Hello.

[B]

Hi, Ashley.

[E]

Good morning. Hi, Jen. I think this is amazing.

[B]

You do?

[E]

As a 35 year old woman, I need to see older women have scandals and you're hot. Ashley, I don't see any problem with this. And if I were your husband, I would be, oh my God, my wife's getting banged by a 20, 20 year old something. 30 year old something. I would be gloating even if it wasn't true.

[B]

Yeah. Thank you, Ashley. He was, I mean, for a while he was gloating and then he remembered that he's an attorney and you know, maybe this is not the best look,

[D]

that's the thing, like for us. And I think people who know you, like, I laughed at it. Like we were texting, we were like, literally. I was like, that is the most absurd thing I've ever heard. But people that don't know you that just think you're this thirsty Bravo girl who wants to like hook up and get in the news. I mean, that's the scary part.

[B]

I'm at both, like, yeah, sure, I walk that line.

[D]

But it's like, it's when I first thought I was like, it's laughable.

[A]

Like, I think we got to reframe this. The fact that people, so many people believe this, that means they view you as attractive enough that a 30, 31 year old would want to hit that.

[C]

She's a MILF. That gives.

[A]

You are a MILF.

[B]

I have not even thought about it that way. Shari, do you hear that?

[A]

Yep. You're a milf.

[D]

If you are like some unattractive woman, people just laugh it off.

[B]

Right.

[A]

I do have a question. You had your breasts done five times, right? Which set did West Motorboat. Because they were tubular. And they were tubular for a while. And you also had those chewed up nipples. And I'm just curious when the alleged hookup occurred was that I was worried,

[B]

I was actually very worried about undressing for him. But he said he has a fetish. He likes the chewed up, nippley, tubular.

[A]

Oh, see, I would have suggested you leave your bra on. So does that I leave my bra on?

[B]

Yes. Right.

[A]

I called up Michael yesterday in a bit of an emergency. I said, look, Michael, I'm getting to that age. I go, these things are going to fall soon.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I go, we're going to. I'm going to need an implant soon before they fall. I don't want to wait, Dr. Stein. I don't want to wait till after they fall like you did. I want to stay ahead of it.

[B]

Right.

[A]

So you are looking for a doctor.

[C]

We're looking for a doctor right now. Cause he wants somebody that does men's pec implants and a cute doctor.

[B]

So it's diamond, the rug Dr. Michael Stein.

[C]

He does men's breasts and they've got really natural.

[B]

He does revisions, which is, I'm thinking what Jeff probably needs. Why don't you just.

[A]

No, I need a lift.

[B]

The fat sucked out.

[A]

It's not fat, asshole.

[B]

Oh, what is it?

[C]

He doesn't need the fat sucked out. He needs a lift. He needs him to be back up on the.

[A]

It's like a sagging muscle.

[B]

Like your nipples are now.

[A]

No, my nipples are still up, but I want to get there before they go down.

[B]

I got it, got it, got it. Oh my God.

[A]

This is the before. Jen's the after.

[B]

Look at Rachel from Los Angeles real quick.

[A]

Okay. Where is she?

[D]

Line three.

[C]

Line three.

[B]

Oh, this is brilliant.

[A]

Rachel, line three.

[E]

Just a theory, you guys. Shout out, Shane.

[D]

Shout out. Rach.

[E]

Getting straight to the point. So I'm thinking, what is the likelihood? I'm like, I want to know, Jen. Because you're friends with Wes, I'm assuming.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

I want to know from you if you think that your name is the hidden name as a decoy for Amanda.

[B]

No, I never.

[E]

Because in a world that's the steward o' Keefe come across his. No, but that's what people do when you're having an affair, right? Or like just because you're non threatening, you're married, so she would never think.

[B]

Well, clearly I'm a little threatening.

[E]

You would be.

[B]

Right.

[D]

So now west and Amanda are publicly dating. So he was.

[B]

No, she's. I think Rachel. You're saying that maybe my name, My name. He had my name for Amanda with Sierra when. Right.

[A]

Or another girl.

[B]

Or another girl.

[A]

You really think he's, you know, I mean, is he faithful to Amanda? We don't know. There could be five other girls.

[B]

And he could have put Jen Fester on there because no one would ever think.

[D]

Or. Yeah, or maybe just Jenny or Jen or Jeff Lewis.

[B]

Jen likely. Right. Jen likely. Jenny Golightly.

[A]

See, look, chumps are really loving this rose in Utah. Hey, Rose. This is a good show.

[B]

Hi, Rose. It is. It's a really good.

[A]

It's your audience.

[E]

I know.

[A]

What's up, Rose?

[E]

So I have two specific points. Okay. Yesterday, Fatty Daddy Jeff, you said that Sherry Friedman recorded the video with the pizza eating. Then before that, Jen said that Jeff Fesla did it. So is it Jen Festa or is it Sherry? That's number one. Number two, Jen, you famously have talked about how you used to be a fat chick, and we all know that fat bitches give the best head. Jeff and Michael. I know. You know, so I think that you can wait.

[D]

What?

[A]

But thank you.

[C]

I'm flattered.

[E]

I think, Jen, you should flip this into F instead of F major. You can do B major and kind of do like, an only fans or like, seminars on how to seminars.

[B]

I love this. Here's the only problem, and this is a true story. I'm not trying to be funny. I'm not. Well, according to Jeff Fessler, I gave him one once, and that was enough for him.

[A]

Because you're not interested in Jeff. That's the problem.

[B]

No, I've never been. I'm just telling you right now, she's

[D]

trying to go out with.

[A]

Never been interested in Jeff.

[B]

He just. He didn't want another one. I hurt him. It was a. I had a teeth. I don't know. He. I traumatized him.

[A]

And so. Yeah, but you have new teeth now.

[B]

True. That's true.

[A]

Since the last time you gave your husband oral.

[B]

Right.

[A]

So it's probably smoother now. I mean, we can ask West.

[B]

Yeah, right. Well, I want to, but, Rose, I'm really glad you asked the question about who took the video, because there's been a lot of, like, gotcha. Because I said that Jeff took it, and then you said Shari took it.

[A]

Who did? I don't remember. Did Sheri Friedman take the video? Jeff and I were both there on the night. This night that the video was taken, and both of us were taking video. So I don't even really know which specific video you guys are talking about.

[B]

The one with both and I were taking video.

[A]

I don't know if I took that one or Jeff took it. It could have been either. But I can assure you Jeff Fessler was his usual unbothered self by all of this, because this is just Jen's behavior. That night was just on brand for Jen. And there's a difference between being socially playful and cheating on your husband. And the night in question is we were all there, and Jen was just doing what Jen does best, which is being warm and playful and drunk. Messy.

[B]

Yeah. But guess what? I'm allowed to get drunk. People get drunk. Ask Jamin.

[A]

Oh, you're talking to the wrong crowd.

[B]

Hold on a second. Can I.

[A]

We drink every night here.

[B]

I know. Can I just. Well, so do I, but can I just tell you something else? Lisa Milan was there. You know, the beautiful Dubai housewife?

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

She sent me this dm. I fucking love her. Excuse me for saying F so much. She sent me F major. She said she sent me this today. Hey, Jen, I'm so sorry you're dealing with this. I was with you and Wes that night and it was very much a work night for all of us. Also, you and your husband were both so beyond kind to me. We literally sat there talking and gossiping half the night. Mostly me giving you both an earful. If you ever need me to speak up or support me or support in any way, I'm here. I answered her back.

[A]

That's sweet.

[B]

I know. She was so sweet. She said, oh, and she said, you have handled this.

[A]

Can you confirm that she even sent that?

[B]

Yes. Lisa, call in. She said, yes, of course you can. You've handled this with a lot of grace and much better than I would. And she said, babe, I will do anything to make this lie go away.

[D]

Wow.

[A]

Hey, Sheri Friedman. How are shoe sales right now? Seriously? Is there spike lighting up right now?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Nice. In real time.

[B]

F majors. Just use the code.

[C]

West Wilson, while you have your DMs open. Has west that you need DM?

[A]

No, Lisa in California has a great suggestion for our milf.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Line six. Sorry, Lisa.

[E]

Yeah, you know, I don't. Hey there, Jen.

[B]

Hi, Lisa.

[E]

Do you have an only fans or are you gonna get one?

[B]

Well, I just got a fan social and I was thinking maybe I could offer extracurriculars on that.

[D]

Smart.

[C]

Absolutely.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So either coffee, lunch, dinner, or Chloe

[C]

or Jeff and I would like to make money off of you giving blowjobs, please. Yes.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

I think our other partner might not be as excited about that, but.

[A]

Oh, Shannon.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, she's a little button down.

[B]

Yeah. Well, add it to the bio.

[C]

We're open.

[A]

We're open to this.

[C]

Coffee, drinks, dinner. BJ's, right? Love it.

[A]

It's interesting how people love to slut shame, but we, I mean, we celebrate it. Not just embrace, we celebrate slut shaming.

[D]

My closest friends are sluts, you know?

[A]

Oh, I know. Why are you looking at Michael? Lisa, great idea. Thank you so much, Heather. In New York, line three.

[E]

Shout out, Trump. Shout out. Shane. My question for Jen is, you know, you were calling Wes the golden retriever and you're friends with him and you've had his back. So where do you stand on this? Do you condone how he went about things? And how would you feel if a fellow housewife did that to you?

[B]

So I went overboard in terms of the way that I described him because I know that he really hurt Ciara and Kyle. And so looking back at it, it was a bit much. I always tend to be a bit much. But yeah, s. We are still friends. He called and apologized so profusely to me and to my family and, you know, I. Everyone seems to think that he told Ciara this, that he was somehow flexing. Of course, like, I know. Whatever. What Jess can say right now is why would he ever think that that was a flex? But people seem to think that. They've told me that. I don't want to believe that he would say that. I don't know what there would be to gain for him saying that he and I had relations. But yes, I am. We are still friends. I mean, you know what? Yeah, we are.

[A]

You should get a tramp stamp. You qualify now.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

Do you have any tattoos?

[B]

No, that's not true. I have one.

[A]

Oh, you do?

[B]

Yeah, it's bad.

[A]

Where is it? Where is. In.

[B]

Well, I got it. I got it. I got it. Not erased. I got it removed. Shari knows where. When I was. Oh, God. When Jeff and I were separated, I had a boyfriend and he. One night he said, let's put our initial. It's so bad. Our initials on our ring fingers.

[D]

You had someone else's initials.

[A]

Wait, on what? On your what?

[B]

Forget it. Just move on.

[A]

On your ring finger.

[B]

Move on, Move on.

[A]

Well, that must have been some good.

[C]

Let me see.

[B]

You can't see it anymore. I got it removed. I almost remember Tamara did that. She had somebody, I think. Oh, but that was her husband.

[A]

Line two. Is it Cassie?

[B]

Can't see it, but it was like, Cassie.

[A]

Cassie? Is that how you spell Cassie? Is that how she told you to

[D]

spell it in New Jersey?

[E]

Hi, Cassie.

[A]

How do you spell your name? Cassie.

[E]

K A, S, I. But no one gets it right, so that's okay.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Well done, Oscar.

[A]

Wow.

[E]

Shout out. Shane. Jack, thank you so much for everything you do. You literally get me through work every day. My comment is for Jen. I just wanted to suggest that maybe you capitalize on all of this nonsense by hosting a watch party somewhere in Bergen County. At a bar or something.

[B]

See, that's a really good idea, actually.

[D]

Or no. Railroad.

[A]

Maybe you should host the reunion.

[B]

American Dream.

[A]

You should host the reunion.

[B]

Hasn't already been a reunion.

[E]

Right, Exactly. The American Dream stuff wasn't working out.

[B]

So that is actually a really good idea. I love that.

[A]

Oh, I bet American Dream is kicking themselves right now that you're not the ambassador.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. I mean that. Or maybe join Summer House next season.

[A]

Yes.

[D]

In the City.

[E]

Yeah, either one.

[B]

I would do that. Do you think I should do that?

[D]

I think you should film a lunch for in the City.

[A]

I hope you have an agent because you're gonna be fielding a lot. You need somebody to go through all these offers that are coming your way.

[B]

Yeah. You think? Really?

[A]

I think.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean, I haven't gotten any yet.

[A]

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[B]

Right.

[A]

She's already very limited with her options in dating. She's a beautiful girl.

[B]

Do not.

[A]

No, she's a beautiful girl, but she has diabetes.

[B]

Type 2. Do not. Type 1.

[D]

The whole salmon thing. Type 1. Who doesn't eat salmon?

[C]

And now her mom's a hoe.

[A]

Now she's dealing with the embarrassment and shame of her mother's actions. She's the real victim.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

She's never ever gonna find a husband, ever.

[B]

I know that you think that this is funny, but my. Just so you know, I do think it's funny. My daughter is listening.

[D]

Shout out Rachie.

[A]

Good morning.

[B]

Shout out Rachi.

[C]

My hope for Rachel is that she's inherited some of her mother's skills. And she gives a good bj, right?

[B]

She'll be enough of a ho.

[A]

She's gotta overcompensate for those. Diabetes.

[B]

Yes. Right. I can't wait.

[C]

Type 1.

[B]

And you never got any shit about it, did you? Like when you made fun of type 1 before?

[A]

Of course. All those diabetes people come after me.

[B]

No, they don't. I haven't seen any of it. Really? Diabetes chums, please, please rise up.

[A]

I'm not diabetic.

[C]

But.

[A]

Hold on. Only the ones type 1s, right? Because I've gone after the type 2s.

[B]

That's so dumb. It's a different disease. We're not doing this again, Bishop.

[C]

Karma's about to get him. The way he's been eating.

[A]

Karma, it's so bad, I have to tell you. So my stylist came over yesterday. She pulled a bunch of clothes and I got mad at her because she said, okay, so I pulled these. And she goes, and I got an extra large just in case. And I said, let me tell you something. If you want to keep this job, don't you ever pull an extra large. Is that correct?

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

This is my favorite DM I've ever gotten from the chump.

[D]

That story's not over.

[E]

Do you.

[B]

Hold on.

[C]

Did you show him that one? What is my favorite DM I've ever received from a chump?

[A]

It's a picture of me.

[C]

It's a picture of Jeff.

[A]

And it's like not even modified.

[C]

And I thought it was real.

[D]

It's an AI super fat photo.

[C]

No, I'm post it.

[A]

Happy and fat. The happy part. Damn you Fat. I know. So then I try on this polo that's, you know, kind of form fitting. And I'm like, okay, I really like the color. I said, but I can't wear this until I lose 10 more pounds. And then Shane, who's so supportive, says, I think you should take this one back,

[D]

Julie, we're not gonna be in that anytime soon.

[A]

And then. So then after I put her on notice, I know there was some extra larges there. Yeah, there was more than one.

[D]

Well, it's psychological game because you tell her she's not to bring an extra large into the house, but that is what fits. So she has to, like, tell you it's a large and then put it on you quickly enough that you don't notice it's an extra large.

[A]

I never look at the tags. So I'm putting on like, this is a large, because, yeah, that's a large, but it's an extra large. And then I. And I realize she sells me like seven shirts. And then I go back and look,

[D]

two are extra larges and they fit really well.

[A]

And then she'll be like this. She goes, this is a medium, but it looks like it runs big. Then the worst part is I try on the shirt and I go the proportion. And she's got like Tourette's or something because I said the proportions of this shirt is weird. She goes. And I could hear her under her breath. Or the proportions of your body. She's not gonna continue employment.

[D]

You've got a long torso.

[C]

I have to admit, I have been worried about you a little bit. I've been thinking a lot about the fact that Ty has moved to LA now. And I just think that, like, LA is the land of the fit and beautiful. And I think he's gonna spend more time here. He's gonna see, I know that there's

[D]

better options because Jeff was a Texas 10.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

But then now that Ty's an.

[A]

Well, I was also £10, £10 lighter then. Sure. And in better shape.

[C]

It's not gonna last.

[A]

And I think, honestly, my chest has dropped at least 3 inches since then. And my ass.

[B]

Listen, if it doesn't last with Ty, there's always Wes Wilson.

[C]

Jeff, if you.

[A]

He likes older.

[C]

If you were going to sleep with somebody on Bravo to become relevant, Jeff, who would you sleep with?

[A]

That's a really good question. I have to get back to you on that because I want to. I don't want to make the wrong choice.

[C]

Okay. Okay. By the end of the show, I want to know who would be your come up.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Who's yours? Michael? I actually don't answer that.

[A]

I think that Craig Conover is real good looking.

[D]

Oh, that will be a good scandal.

[A]

And he's more, a little, he's a little more age appropriate and like the guy that Jen.

[B]

Right, right.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Right.

[A]

So I don't know. Oh, Emma New York. Oh God, I need my glasses. Sorry. Emma.

[E]

Hi. Shout out, Shane.

[D]

Shout out.

[E]

Okay, so here's my theory because Wes was recently on watch what's happened live and then they asked him a question. I think what Michael Beck just asked you and. But he admitted saying that he slept with a housewife in her 50s. So I'm assuming that maybe Ciara, when she read the text, put two and two together and thought it was Jen Fessler that was the one that he slept with.

[D]

Just to point it out, he didn't say he slept with a housewife in their 50s. He said he slept with an older lady in her 50s.

[B]

Right.

[E]

I thought it was a housewife.

[D]

I don't remember that. But it could be. We'll have to watch.

[A]

Maybe it was a woman. Like an older woman, but not necessarily real housewife. You should pose for Playboy. Right?

[D]

No, now it's illustrated.

[B]

Well, I mean, what under the category of like granny porn or something? Yes, people love that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

It's. I mean it's a fetish.

[C]

It really is. I have a friend who's. They're very into that.

[B]

Listen to a coworker who's really earn. I don't know. I don't know if that's why. I mean I'm clearly not the only 50 year old around. But I, I. All I can tell you is that want me.

[A]

God, I'd love a 31 year old to be interested. They just aren't anymore.

[B]

Neither are 50 year olds.

[A]

Or even older than that.

[B]

Or older than that.

[A]

Right. See, this is the shit she says to me in text. She's mean. She's mean.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't know. Oh, congratulations by the way. I heard about the new show that was announced.

[C]

Yes, finally I can.

[A]

Is there a spot for Jen?

[C]

No.

[A]

Lisa Las Vegas.

[C]

Lisa Las Vegas.

[D]

Maybe she could park.

[A]

So is it a limited series? Tell me what this is.

[C]

Yeah, I mean I can only really say what's in the announcement, but it is a limited series that's kind of a spin off of Vanderpump rules about Lisa, who is opening. Lisa Vanderpump who is opening her own hotel in Las Vegas. Which I have to say like now that we're in production and everything. I'm so impressed by her because she literally has her hand in every single piece of this hotel. Like, it's not just slapping her name on a building. She is curating everything. And it's. It's pretty amazing.

[A]

Why don't you speak nicely like that about me?

[C]

I do. I just. Not to your face, usually. Because I already have a big head and you already have a big everything else.

[A]

Thank you. Yes, thank you. Now, are you worried about the buffets in Las Vegas? Because you're gonna have to go there for a month.

[C]

Yes, I am.

[A]

But because you can't say no to

[D]

food, it's hard to be fit in.

[C]

That's why I upped my dose today. Just. I just. If I stay nauseous, I won't have to be hungry.

[A]

When do you leave for Las Vegas?

[C]

Right after this. I have my flight at 12:45.

[A]

Wait, you're leaving today? Are you leaving for a month?

[C]

For a couple weeks, yeah.

[A]

Oh, so you're just not going to be there for my pickups anymore then?

[C]

No. Thank God.

[A]

Oh, wow. Okay, so I guess we're just on autopilot over there.

[D]

We'll just do whatever we want.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

I love that.

[C]

I mean, you do, anyway.

[D]

Oh, yeah, right.

[A]

I heard that your GLAAD award arrived. It did.

[C]

Isn't it cute?

[A]

So you're not gonna get one for still flipping out, so enjoy it.

[C]

Why not?

[D]

We're all gay.

[B]

Yes. Queen.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Where'd you put it?

[C]

It's up on my mantle in our living room. I like to look at it every day and remind myself, with a little

[A]

light on it, like a Faberge egg. Oh, how nice.

[C]

The gayest producer in tv. Yeah.

[B]

Yay.

[A]

Well, congrats on your award. Hey, so what happened to Vanderpump Rules, then? Is that on pause?

[C]

Well, I mean, Lisa is not in la, so she is the star of that show, obviously. And I think she's, you know, opening this hotel in Vegas. So she's gonna be gone for a while, and then she has her other show that shoots during the summer. So I just think that.

[A]

Oh, the one Vanderpump Villa? Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So, okay, so then how many episodes is Lisa Las Vegas?

[C]

Actually, I don't know yet, to be honest. I really don't. I think they do.

[A]

We have an idea.

[C]

Is it a four part special?

[A]

Okay, so three, but maybe another one if they have more content. Whatever. Okay, a three part special. Could that turn into a series?

[C]

Potentially, yeah.

[A]

Anything could happen.

[C]

Yeah, It's A good cast out there,

[D]

and she's spending a lot of time out there. I feel like every time we're in Vegas, you text her and she's there.

[C]

Yeah. And the fans have been wanting to see her Vegas life. Cause she has three restaurants there now. And then with the hotel, like, it's a whole new world.

[A]

So it is kind of her life now.

[B]

I think Jeff brings up an interesting point. So his shows still work in the works. So do they consult with you while you're gone? How does that work from a production standpoint?

[C]

So, luckily, it's all the same production company. It's all 32 flavors. I definitely hear what's going on when my job ends, like, with principal photography and there's pickups, usually because I'm moving on to another project. Somebody else is coming to do pickups, but I'm in the know. And then Jeff calls me to complain every single day.

[A]

Well, because I don't have a contact person. Who am I supposed to call?

[C]

I do know what's going on.

[A]

My showrunner's gone, so who am I supposed to call?

[C]

Oh, yeah. Okay.

[A]

Right.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

How many more pickups do we have, Shane?

[C]

Like three. Like, three days.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You're almost there.

[A]

Okay, good. By the way, I just got. I got a text yesterday. It said, hi, Jeffrey, it's National Mental Health Awareness Month. More info here. Does anyone else get those texts? Like, I know, because it feels very targeted.

[D]

Why was that sent to you?

[A]

Why was that sent to my personal phone?

[B]

Did you click the link?

[A]

No, I didn't click the link.

[C]

You should click the link. Let's see.

[A]

I'm not clicking the link.

[C]

Click the link.

[A]

This does not apply to me. Well, I think it's weird. They sent that to me.

[C]

It was sent to you for a reason.

[B]

Don't think it's weird at all.

[A]

Jen got that.

[C]

Can you forward it to Jen?

[D]

Jen got that text a couple times.

[B]

I actually could use that. You know what? I could use that number. Please send it to me.

[A]

I'll forward it to you. Are you staying at the Pali House?

[B]

Not this time, unfortunately. Because. Only because Jeff Fessler, I'm here with. Well, he actually just left, but I'm staying at a fabulous hotel.

[C]

Where?

[D]

What?

[B]

Because, I mean, you know, his. Like, I'm staying where he stays. Cause his company pays.

[A]

He still has a job, I hope.

[B]

Yes, barely. Barely hanging on. It's called the Conrad. It's beautiful.

[D]

Yes, we have a Conrad here.

[C]

Where's that?

[B]

It's gorgeous downtown. Really?

[A]

Nobody wants to stay Downtown, though.

[B]

Why?

[A]

We don't want to stay downtown. It's not what it used to be.

[B]

Listen, this hotel's gorgeous.

[A]

Drive fast when you get.

[B]

Really?

[A]

It's dangerous walking Dead down there. Are you kidding me? That's where they film it. They don't even need extras or actors.

[C]

Do they know that you're running a brothel out of your hotel room?

[B]

Enough.

[A]

You don't think it's dirty down there?

[B]

I mean, you know me, I like dirty.

[A]

For a while there, they revitalized it and it was, it was. I mean, it was coming around. I mean, they were starting to book great restaurants. People were staying down there. And then walking Dead Season 7.

[B]

I have to say, shout out to Petite Peli because it's my favorite.

[D]

Of course. Always shout out.

[A]

Yes, but when is that allegedly.

[B]

Where stuff is free now we have to go with it.

[A]

Allegedly. In our make believe world. Where did the hookup occur? Pally House.

[B]

Great question.

[A]

On the one. Is it the one on third or the one on Sunset, Melrose or.

[B]

I believe that Wes lives in New York and I live in New Jersey and there's like a Motel 6 right by.

[A]

You're too glasses.

[B]

Right by.

[C]

Right?

[B]

Thank you, Jeffrey.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. And we have Jeff Fessler's credit card. Why would we ever do that?

[B]

By the way? Shout out to Anna and Ace. They have been wonderful throughout this whole thing. They did a whole podcast. I don't know if it was yesterday, the day before. They're not having it and I appreciate it. They're not like you traitors. They're like, totally have my back.

[D]

I mean, I get you in a hard. Like, it's hard to prove a negative. Like you can't. There's no proof that something didn't.

[A]

It's just hard not to look at the facts. Right, Michael?

[C]

Yeah, absolutely. And we're pro sex.

[A]

We very much are pro sex around here, Jen. That's why you are celebrated. You are an icon to chumps. I think right now.

[B]

Please don't turn on me. Chumps. No one even remembers that I was on the Housewives of New Jersey. You're all I have.

[A]

No. For Mother's Day. You came up with a terrible idea, Michael, and you decided to take your mom camping.

[C]

My mom wanted to go camping, so it was her idea and we went along with it. And actually, despite what I look like, I am an outdoorsy gay. Are you copying? I am. I like to get outside and I like to be with nature. We did stay in like a cabin. My mom stayed in an rv. But we stayed in a cabin.

[B]

Was it glamping?

[C]

It was a little bit glamping. I mean, it became a problem because our dog, which we think is, you know, Wes, is from Mississippi. So his dog was from Mississippi and has spent a lot of time there in the outdoors. But he got a couple stickers in his ear and had to have emergency surgery because they burrowed into his ear. So it was kind of a mess. But we had a good time.

[A]

Where did you do that?

[C]

So we were up in Paso Robles, where I'm from, and we were camping up there. And then he just got out into the field, and the next thing you know, he's like screaming and shaking his head and he had like stickers that like burrowed into his ear. So we had to run him to the. It was on a Saturday afternoon, so we had to run him to the emergency vet. He had to be put under and have surgery. But the rest of the day he was like, so stoned, his little tongue was out of his mouth and he just was lucky. I know.

[A]

That sounds like a great weekend.

[C]

It was actually a very nice weekend. Austin got to come up and spend some time with my family, and it was great.

[A]

So your family likes to camp?

[C]

Loves to camp. Big campers. I actually. We've talked about this. I used to have an rv.

[A]

Family loves to camp.

[C]

Remember?

[D]

I thought you had an rv.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Oh, that's right.

[C]

Yeah. I butch.

[A]

That's just so not appealing to me at all. What about you glamping?

[B]

I would do glamping.

[A]

I don't know. Glamping is still camping.

[B]

Is it?

[A]

We tried to do that. It's just still miserable.

[D]

Yeah. You camped at the Four Seasons, didn't you? Camp and then you went to the

[A]

Four Seasons, the Ritz Carlton. I went camping and then to one of those glamping things. I'm like, this is shit.

[C]

I can't see you doing anything outdoorsy.

[D]

I really can't believe you did that.

[C]

Have you ever hiked?

[A]

I walk my dog every day.

[C]

Around your neighborhood?

[A]

Yes. I love staring at the 6 to 12 million dollar homes. That to me, is relaxing.

[C]

No, but seriously, have you ever gone on a hike? Have you ever liked.

[A]

Of course. I used to hike Runyon until I fell.

[C]

Oh.

[A]

And had to have back surgery.

[C]

I would pay to see you fall on Runyon.

[A]

Yeah. That was not good. That was in a good situation. Yes. I used to hike Runyon all the time until I fell.

[D]

For people not in la, Runyon is a paved, the most popular path it's not.

[A]

The whole thing is not paved. If you go all the way to

[D]

the top, you went the other.

[A]

And I used to run down, which was stupid. And then I'd walk up, run down.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

And that's when I lost my footing and fell. Could you imagine three discs?

[B]

Can you imagine coming home being like, guys, I saw Jeff Lewis from flipping out tumble down Runyon Canyon.

[C]

I saw him running down Runyon Canyon. His tits were flopping in the wind. And then he tripped.

[A]

No, they didn't flop then. They didn't flop then.

[C]

Oh, okay.

[A]

Yeah. Speaking of flopping, I can't. You did. So your fifth surgery, they did what was called an internal bra.

[B]

Right.

[A]

So are you wearing two bras right now?

[B]

No, it. I guess it dissolves the internal bra. Yes. So he had to put it in. I told you guys this. Oh, I haven't been on. Have I talked about this on YouTube?

[A]

We didn't know. I didn't know about an eternal bra.

[B]

Oh, it's not eternal. It's internal.

[A]

That's what I meant.

[B]

Right. So my boob. My boob was attached to my stomach. So we had a, like, release it. And then in order for it to, I guess attached to breast tissue, he had to put, like, a mesh bra inside. Why are you looking? I don't. I didn't make this up. You're looking at me like I'm making this up.

[A]

Honestly. You want to know what I was really thinking?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Anyone that thinks that this happened with west is a fucking idiot. But. Yeah. Discuss how they had to detach your tit from your.

[B]

You want me to show you a picture?

[C]

No, I have a picture.

[A]

Did you send it to West?

[B]

I have.

[C]

My favorite comment today is that they feel like Jen is wearing west clothes. Cause she's wearing, like, little boy's outfit today.

[B]

We're starting to dress alike. Yes.

[C]

West clothes.

[B]

Wait, will you take this collar, Christina?

[A]

Yeah, I can. Line three if you want.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Hey, Miami.

[A]

What's up, Christina?

[E]

Hey, guys. How are you?

[B]

Hi, Christina.

[E]

Hi.

[D]

Shout out.

[E]

Hey, Jen. I know, Shane. Don't be so happy about it.

[B]

Shout out.

[C]

Christina.

[A]

And I get to the point.

[D]

I want to know.

[E]

Thank you. Thank you. Okay, so my question is for Jen. What receipts do you think Sierra has that? She says she's not backing down and she'll expose it if she has to.

[B]

That's what I would like to know, Christina. That's so. So that's the question I would like to know as well.

[C]

That's why I asked.

[A]

Dangerous situation. Because you Know, we. We're assuming I'm believing you that it's not true. I mean, that's dangerous.

[B]

It's not dangerous.

[A]

Legal. No, dangerous legal territory.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I actually think the only person that can help us solve this at this point because nobo going to. Obviously people have their opinion on what Jen's saying. They have their opinion on. Wes is saying it's really Sierra. Sierra's the only one that's going to solve this problem. So we can go around and round and Jen can deny and Wes can deny and we can know the truth.

[B]

No, I'd love what is to know

[C]

the proof going to say. That's what I want to know.

[A]

So you got to be very careful. I mean, you could. You're risking.

[B]

I'm not talking about it anymore. So, like.

[A]

No, not you. On a light note, I'm saying when you make those kind of accusations, you better be damn sure 150% you are correct because you could lose everything you have ever worked for. And that is very, very, very scary proposition. And some of these immature people out there that maybe react emotionally and not thinking through could lose everything they have. It just takes one vindictive bitch like Jen Fessler to correct the situation. I've had many times, many, many, many times I could have sued people. But here's the problem. Most of the losers that I wanted to sue have no money. So guess what? I'm gonna have to spend $200,000 just being right. That's all I'm gonna get is I'm right and I'm proving to everyone I'm right. But I'm out $200,000.

[B]

Get legal fees.

[A]

I mean, from them. They have no money. They have no money. It's pointless. I could have done that 10 times over. So you got to look at too, you know, what do we. What kind of financial stability does she have?

[B]

I don't know and I don't want to know.

[A]

So you're going to go to court for years and years and years, spend hundred thousand dollars to win nothing and lose hundreds of thousands of dollars and two to three years of your life?

[B]

Yeah, I just won it over and again. This is the last time I'm speaking about it.

[A]

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