Lauren Lake, Elisa Donovan, & Doug Budin: Lawn Balls

Summary

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Jeff Lewis Has Issues

Episode: Lauren Lake, Elisa Donovan, & Doug Budin: Lawn Balls
Date: December 26, 2025
Host: Jeff Lewis
Guests: Lauren Lake, Elisa Donovan, Doug Budin

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Episode Overview

This episode is classic “Jeff Lewis Has Issues”—an unscripted, raucous, and highly personal conversation, brimming with the signature wit and no-filter honesty Jeff is known for. Jeff, Lauren Lake, Elisa Donovan, and Doug Budin catch up after the holidays to swap stories about Christmas décor disasters (specifically “lawn balls”), parties, cancer scares, and true crime obsessions. The tone is irreverent, full of inside jokes, and moves briskly from comedy to vulnerability and back again.

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Key Discussion Points

1. The D.A. Barbara Anniversary Party: Speeches, Tears, and Comic Relief

• Doug’s phone rings during a heartfelt speech, causing minor chaos and embarrassment.
  • Quote: “My phone was on full volume, so, yeah, I knew she was gonna say something about you...I certainly didn’t know if she was gonna mention anything about me or Shane or Paolo.” – Doug (02:12)
• Jeff accuses Doug of performing fake tears to get attention.
  • Quote: “Did you see the fake tear he also shed?” – Jeff (02:34)
• The crew dissects who was truly honored and whose ego needed stroking.
  • Quote: “She did spend a lot of time on me. Much more time on you and Shane combined.” – Jeff (04:11)
• Doug shares the “cancer bomb” moment—a recent thyroid scare—recounting the anxiety of waiting for biopsy results during party season.
  • Quote: “Well, there is cause for great concern.” – Doug quoting his doctor (06:44)
• The trio plunges into dark comedy around death, funerals, memorial preferences, and who’d actually show up.
  • Memorable banter about music, services, and scattered ashes. (08:24 - 11:00)

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2. Star Encounters: Prince and Ludacris

• Lauren tells her story of being starstruck by Prince at a secret NYC club.
  • Quote: “I’m usually not starstruck. But I couldn’t keep my eyes off of him.” – Lauren (10:52)
• Doug recounts a surreal, accidental encounter with Prince at an LA party—driving a purple PT Cruiser and Prince wanting to check out the car.
  • Quote: “Prince was standing right in the second floor... He came down and he said, ‘I love your car.’” – Doug (13:18)
• Elisa reveals she danced on stage with Prince.
  • Quote: “I danced on stage with Prince.” – Alisa (14:05)
• Recurring jokes about misnaming celebrities (“Lewd Chris” for Ludacris) and not recognizing celebrity guests. (12:18)

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3. Fashion, Red Carpets, and Press Shade

• Elisa describes a recent red carpet (“Housemaid” premiere), noting the odd experience of press coverage referencing her as a “90s bombshell” and “Who is she?”
  • Quote: “90s bombshell makes red carpet appearance in plunging green gown 30 years after hit movie. Who is she?” – Jeff reading headline (19:24)
• The group humorously reframes the “Who is she?” slight as empowerment and a running inside joke.
• Elisa plugs “The Housemaid” as a wild ride and denies using ChatGPT for her Instagram review.
  • Quote: “I am a published author, okay? So I was an English bitch.” – Alisa (21:36)

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4. Holiday Decorations & Lawn Ball Fiasco

• Elisa recounts her saga with giant inflatable “Holliballs.” She gets hers, but Jeff & Doug are left ball-less due to a delivery failure by the company.
  • Quote: “Hollyball’s ruined our Christmas holidays.” – Jeff (23:16)
• The group debates other brands, inflation techniques, and last year’s “ball migration” when Elisa’s decorations ended up all over the neighborhood.
  • Quote: “I lost all my balls... The neighbors brought back two or three of them.” – Alisa (26:38)
• Discussion on the perils and methods of securing giant balls, and the household debates over holiday decorating colors (Lauren incorporating red for her son C.J.).
  • Quote: “Red is tough... But he gets so happy and he’s just like, I don’t want to go anywhere if they don’t have the decorations like this.” – Lauren (29:16 & 30:32)
• Jeff laments Doug’s “bank/post office” aesthetic Christmas tree, and they argue about decorating choices.
  • Quote: “It looks like a bank or post office.” – Jeff (30:53)

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5. True Crime: Elisa’s New Podcast & Real-Life Cases

• Elisa unveils her new iHeart podcast, “Killer Thriller,” where she interviews creators of true crime TV and films.
  • Quote: “It’s a true crime podcast where I will be interviewing the people that make the films and TV shows that are based on true crimes.” – Alisa (36:17)
• Lauren, a former criminal defense attorney, and others discuss true crime obsessions, why people love them, and the impact of stories like “Snapped” and “The First 48.”
  • Quote: “I’m obsessed with understanding human behavior... Because really, everybody’s capable of a multitude of good and bad.” – Alisa (41:06)
• Lauren tells a chilling story of realizing she’d been inside a house later featured on “Snapped.”
  • Quote: “I had been in that house where she murdered her husband... I knew a relative of those people.” – Lauren (42:51)
• Practical advice on getting away with (or not admitting to) crimes: “I want to talk to my lawyer. Do nothing else and don’t say nothing else.” – Lauren (46:06)

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6. Christmas Parties & Social Faux Pas

• The group discusses Sutton Strack’s holiday party, last-minute invites, “plus five” controversy, and Doug’s passive-aggressive comments to gatecrashers.
  • Quote: “It is so rude that you guys are here.” – Doug (48:01)
• Jeff clarifies that everyone was properly invited, despite banter and “poor form” jabs between guests and hosts.
  • Quote: “I actually called Sutton and I said, you know Keon and Annie from the show? She goes, I love them. I would love them for them to come.” – Jeff (49:01)

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• “My phone was on full volume...I was embarrassed. I was hiding behind that potted plant.” – Doug (02:12)
• “I have no problem prioritizing myself.” – Jeff (01:06)
• “She announced at the end that she was changing the name of the restaurant to Da Jeff.” – Lauren (04:34)
• “I want to be cremated...scattered up at the country where my father and the mechanic are buried.” – Doug (08:25)
• “Did he get in your car? ...He sat in the driver’s seat and pushed a button or two and then he got out and he loved it.” – Jeff/Doug (14:24)
• “Who is she?” (recurring joke throughout; first at 19:24 and repeatedly from 19:33 onward)
• “I got my balls installed.” – Alisa (22:38)
• “Christmas didn’t happen this year. Monroe is devastated.” – Jeff (23:07)
• “I lost all my balls.” – Alisa (26:38)
• “It looks like a bank or post office.” – Jeff (30:53)
• “It’s called Killer Thriller...a true crime podcast” – Alisa (36:17)
• “I want to talk to my lawyer. Do nothing else and don’t say nothing else.” – Lauren (46:06)
• “It is so rude that you guys are here.” – Doug (48:01)

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Important Timestamps

• 01:19 — Episode begins with guest intros & party gossip
• 02:12 — Doug’s ringing phone/Barbara party story
• 05:32 — Doug’s cancer scare revelation
• 10:48 — Lauren’s Prince encounter
• 13:18 — Doug’s Prince/PT Cruiser story
• 19:01 — Press shade at Elisa’s “Housemaid” premiere
• 22:38 — “Lawn balls” debacle begins
• 26:38 — Lost balls & neighbor stories
• 30:53 — Tree aesthetics debate
• 36:17 — Elisa’s true crime podcast announcement
• 42:51 — Lauren saw a murder house featured on “Snapped”
• 46:06 — Lauren’s legal advice
• 48:01 — Doug’s party-guest drama and etiquette debate

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Takeaways

• Personal Revelations: Doug’s health scare and the group’s mix of emotional support and dark humor underline how this crew mixes real-life vulnerability with relentless ribbing.
• Pop Culture Mania: Between Prince, Ludacris, and “90s bombshell” callbacks, celebrity stories are ammunition for both nostalgia and comic one-upmanship.
• Decor Drama: Inflatable lawn decorations can unite (or divide) a group just as thoroughly as party invites and seating charts.
• Crime & Curiosity: Elisa’s leap from 90s cinema to true crime podcasting is a nod both to evolving careers and America’s obsession with murder podcasts.
• Friendship in Action: Behind the sarcasm is clear affection: unsolicited advice, gifts gone missing, and last-minute plus-ones—nothing is off-limits, and nothing is taken too seriously.

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Episode mood: Hilarious, self-deprecating, occasionally heartfelt—with a dose of true crime and plenty of holiday absurdity.
Perfect for: Fans of Jeff’s crew, reality-TV style banter, home décor feuds, and irreverent holiday talk.

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Transcript

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[Jeff Lewis]

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[Lauren Lake]

When you're Jeff Lewis, the drama never stops.

[Jeff Lewis]

I have no problem prioritizing myself.

[Alisa]

I'm glad that you're feeling so good about this, but the truth is I got fired and it's your fucking fault.

[Jeff Lewis]

She gets paid for this shit.

[Alisa]

You get paid for this shit.

[Lauren Lake]

Jeff Lewis has issues.

[Jeff Lewis]

Hey, welcome to Jeff Lewis Has Issues. In this episode, Lauren Lake, Lisa Donovan and Doug Button Join the show. We chat about Christmas balls, true crime podcasts, and last minute invitations to Sutton Strack's holiday party. Good morning.

[Lauren Lake]

Good morning.

[Jeff Lewis]

Before we talk about Sutton's In Sync Sutton Strack's party. Before we dive into that, I think we should back up a little bit. Now, Lisa, unfortunately, you were not here for the D.A. barbara two year anniversary party. Your honor was there. And did you witness Doug and his bad acting? Now you. You knew that she was going to say some words. Not.

[Doug Button]

Not about me. I knew she was gonna say some words and I knew she was gonna say some words about you. You knew she was gonna give a speech?

[Jeff Lewis]

Yes.

[Doug Button]

Then why was your phone on full volume? Well, that was embarrassing.

[Alisa]

Wait, what happened?

[Doug Button]

My phone rang. Thanks. Kate Hampton called me, but she was. She didn't know, but yeah, my phone was on full volume, so, yeah, I knew she. She was gonna say something about you. I certainly didn't know if she was gonna mention anything about me or Shane or Paolo or any of these other.

[Jeff Lewis]

Because the way you Looked, he did this whole like.

[Doug Button]

I was embarrassed. I was hiding behind that potted plant.

[Jeff Lewis]

Did you see the fake tear he also shed.

[Doug Button]

Stop it now.

[Jeff Lewis]

He did.

[Lauren Lake]

Stop it. It was so meaningful. I cried. I teared up.

[Doug Button]

So did she. I remember everybody was crying. Well, almost everybody.

[Lauren Lake]

It was just a beautiful moment. And you were. You felt a little too, Jeff. I saw it in your face. Then you had to make a joke.

[Doug Button]

His face does not move.

[Lauren Lake]

That is, I saw it in his eyes. They were beautiful words.

[Jeff Lewis]

She went to you first and she had some nice things to say. And that's when you notice he, like, popped out of the corner. Yeah, he did. Cause he wanted everybody to know she's talking about me. Yes, you did.

[Doug Button]

Okay, wait. What did she say? She said, and Doug. Where you are, Doug? And so I popped out from the potted plant.

[Jeff Lewis]

And now he's in the center of the room. Now he's in the center of the room and he's acting so surprised. When he knew you knew it was coming. You were there. That's probably why you went, because you knew you were going to be honored.

[Lauren Lake]

He was so sharp. You remember he was sharp that way.

[Jeff Lewis]

You're right. He had a blazer.

[Lauren Lake]

He was sugar sharp.

[Doug Button]

Honey, I'm doing like an. I was wearing like an academic sort of thing. It was an argyle.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yes.

[Lauren Lake]

He was sugar sharp.

[Doug Button]

Tweed jacket.

[Alisa]

Sugar sharp.

[Doug Button]

Yes.

[Jeff Lewis]

Adorable.

[Lauren Lake]

Yes.

[Doug Button]

I looked smart.

[Alisa]

I mean, she really has. He's done an amazing amount of.

[Jeff Lewis]

I mean, promotion.

[Alisa]

Impressed promotion for her. I think she is probably over the moon with gratitude.

[Doug Button]

But I really. I really didn't know that she was going to single people out. Except. Except I did know she was going to say something to you.

[Jeff Lewis]

Why didn't you warn me?

[Doug Button]

Well, I'd much rather watch you squirmish.

[Alisa]

Would you have changed your outfit? Like, why are you.

[Jeff Lewis]

I would have liked a heads up that I'm going to be honored.

[Lauren Lake]

That the whole evening was about him.

[Jeff Lewis]

That the whole evening was an autographer. It would have been better. She did spend a lot of time on me. Much more time on you and Shane combined. Yeah.

[Alisa]

Yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

And did that bother you, Shane?

[Doug Button]

I was like, where's the shout out chain? She gave a shout out chain.

[Alisa]

No, she did.

[Doug Button]

It was sweet.

[Lauren Lake]

It was. It was so thoughtful. She's so lovely.

[Jeff Lewis]

Do you notice when she got to me, it was a little more meaningful and emotional.

[Lauren Lake]

It was.

[Alisa]

I'm sure it was.

[Lauren Lake]

And she announced at the end that she was changing the name of the restaurant to Da Jeff.

[Alisa]

Yes.

[Lauren Lake]

Because it's all about you.

[Jeff Lewis]

Well, I trigger cancer.

[Alisa]

I mean, that is really something. I did hear that. I did hear that through laughter.

[Jeff Lewis]

Through laughter.

[Doug Button]

And it is true what you said yesterday to Liz. Patrick, he says of all the people who had to save my life, it was Jeff Bucking Lewis.

[Alisa]

Fucking Lewis.

[Doug Button]

He says that all the time.

[Jeff Lewis]

Well, because he knows I'm gonna cash in that favor one day.

[Doug Button]

You know, you almost saved mine.

[Alisa]

He's gonna have to save yours.

[Jeff Lewis]

Almost. Yeah. Did you. That was so weird that you told me about your cancer scare when I was drunk on the way to the Uber. That is a strange time to drop it.

[Doug Button]

I just.

[Alisa]

Is that when he told you?

[Doug Button]

Yeah, I just wanted to mention it to you. I had just found out. I think Lauren, I think read the report and Lauren was they. Like I told Lauren as it happened, it was like. Wait, what I gotta tell you though, for real, like the last. What is it? At least two months.

[Alisa]

A couple months.

[Doug Button]

I've been under a very scary cloud. And it's because it stems from that pre nouveau. That's why I said, you almost.

[Jeff Lewis]

So they saw something in the scan.

[Doug Button]

They saw something when I had the prenuvo two years ago and I had it tested, ultrasounded on my thyroid and they said, you know, you should come back and retest it. So I went back. What I did not know is from that original test, they said for one of them, I should have had a biopsy. And my doctor at the time did not order a biopsy. So when I had it retested again two months ago, the report came back and it said, once again, biopsy recommended for this one nodule in my thyroid.

[Jeff Lewis]

So you did the biopsy?

[Doug Button]

So I did the biopsy and it took three weeks to schedule the biopsy. So every day for three weeks I'm trying to get on the schedule. Then I had the biopsy on December 2 and it took 14 business days to get the result. And so this whole.

[Alisa]

This is something you cannot do to a person. Like Doug, he is like, I would like to get the. I take the test and now what's the result?

[Lauren Lake]

Like you.

[Alisa]

This is like you spiral about it. And I knew, I was never worried, like I'm a doctor, but I knew that you were very, very.

[Doug Button]

I played a nurse on tv. I should have known this, but I was really. And my doctor, who I, you know, I was like, oh, he'll make me feel better, he said to me, his words were, well, there is cause for great concern. And so when your doctor says that to you, and you're waiting on these. So I was really upset about this, obviously. And then the night of the debarber thing, while I was going there, I got the report saying benign.

[Jeff Lewis]

Sounded to me like. I'm very happy to hear that. But it did sound to me like you were trying to upstage Barbara.

[Doug Button]

Oh, stop it.

[Jeff Lewis]

I didn't do it. Oh, you have cancer.

[Lauren Lake]

I didn't.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah, I almost had cancer. That's what that sounded like to me. So here we are in this wonderful evening. And then, you know, after she gives her speech, which I could tell, he's like, oh, she's moved on so quickly from me.

[Doug Button]

Oh, stop it.

[Jeff Lewis]

And then she goes on to me, and she's obviously very emotional. And we had, you know, we had a moment. You know, we had a connection. Barbara and I had a moment.

[Lauren Lake]

You had the moment.

[Alisa]

I thought I had cancer. I almost had cancer. Yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

And so then, of course, you know, not 10 minutes after the speech, does he drop the cancer bomb on privately to you?

[Doug Button]

Not.

[Jeff Lewis]

She thought it was weird because we had all been drinking and I was on my way to the Uber, and you're like, by the way, I had a cancer scare, but I'm good. And I go, what?

[Doug Button]

Because I didn't want. Because it was over. But it was such a release.

[Lauren Lake]

Like, truly, we are so happy. So happy.

[Alisa]

Yes. Most people, we read that. We went through the thing. Doug, I was at his house, and he's like, can you just confirm that.

[Doug Button]

I'm reading this correctly?

[Alisa]

Benign. I mean, it says benign three times.

[Jeff Lewis]

Just so we know. Do you want to be cremated or do you want to be buried?

[Doug Button]

I will be cremated.

[Lauren Lake]

You want to be turned into a diamond?

[Doug Button]

No, I don't. I'm going to be cremated. I'm going to be scattered up at the country where my father and the mechanic are buried.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay.

[Doug Button]

And I'm going to be scattered with the ashes of both of my dead dogs.

[Alisa]

Aw.

[Jeff Lewis]

So do we have to fly back east to go to your funeral?

[Doug Button]

Would you go? Well, my.

[Jeff Lewis]

Is there a. Can we do an LA service?

[Doug Button]

Can we zoom. Talk to Patrick and Sal? Patrick and Sal are in charge.

[Alisa]

Is there radio at the cemetery?

[Lauren Lake]

You know what?

[Alisa]

Jeff will go. Yeah.

[Doug Button]

Oh, my God.

[Lauren Lake]

He knows you're telling the truth.

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh, my God. We could go live from cemetery.

[Doug Button]

It's a beautiful church. It's a beautiful church.

[Jeff Lewis]

All right, so then do you want. Do you want just, like a service at the burial, or do you want us to go to. Do you want a temple? Like, how do we do this.

[Doug Button]

There should be a memorial service at a temple with good music, but it's all laid out.

[Jeff Lewis]

Like, what kind of music? Ludacris.

[Doug Button]

No classical music for me.

[Lauren Lake]

What was this?

[Doug Button]

What did he Stop it?

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah, I think we. We might have to just. Yeah, we might have to pivot for a second and pivot back.

[Lauren Lake]

Chris.

[Alisa]

Lewd Chris.

[Jeff Lewis]

We were talking about at the D.A. barbara anniversary party. We were just. Your Honor and I were talking, and Doug was there, too. We were just talking about, like, celebrities, like, you've ever been starstruck. And I was talking about my story with Eddie Vedder, and you were talking about your story with Prince. Right now, once again. No, no, no.

[Alisa]

I want to hear that story.

[Jeff Lewis]

Why don't you tell your story, and then Doug will one up you. Like, he's already.

[Alisa]

You see my bag over there? Princess King. You see my makeup bag over there?

[Lauren Lake]

Yes. And mine wasn't even that great, but Doug's definitely was much better than mine. But I loved it because it was a great tag to mine. Mine is nothing. It is just that my brother was in town. When we lived in New York, there was, like, this really cool club. And you know how in New York, the clubs are like. Well, it wasn't nails. It was one of those ones, like, on the Lower east side. Like, it's one of those ones where it's like a wall pyramid. You don'. There's no numbers. There's no nothing. But you. Only if you know. You know. So I was trying to take my brother to the swanky New York stuff, and that's when I was, like, in the. You know, I was singing background for people. So I was like, come on, let's go in here. Let's just go in here. When we get to the bar, he, like, turns. It was really more. I mean, I was starstruck, but it was also the joy of, like, my brother because he's, like, from Detroit, right? So he's now standing at the bar and literally to his left, like, probably where Oscar is, it's Prince. And he's just there, like, talking to people.

[Alisa]

Prince used to do that. And my brother is like, is that Prince?

[Lauren Lake]

And I was like, I turned her over. I was like, oh, my God, it is him. And I told Jeff it was. I'm usually not starstruck. I'm not that kind of person. But I couldn't keep my eyes off of him. I just. Every time I would be talking, I just look back over, like, what is he doing now? He is kind of magical. So, Doug, go ahead.

[Doug Button]

Go ahead and win.

[Jeff Lewis]

Doug just chimes in, go ahead and win, Doug.

[Alisa]

The first.

[Doug Button]

So when I moved to LA and I got this job in marketing, the first party they sent me to work at was at Prince's house. And it was after maybe the Golden Globes, and it was that house. It's that street in Beverly Hills, that long. Alta Loma, Alta Vista. Cause it's the name of one of his albums or a song or. Anyway, I'm at his house and, you know, I'd heard of Prince. I know a couple of songs, but I certainly didn't know you do Criminal. I did Criminal. Name em. Name em party like it's 1999.

[Alisa]

That is exactly how it goes. Precisely how it sounds.

[Lauren Lake]

It was a remix.

[Doug Button]

I was there with Absolut Vodka, who was my boss and my client. And so I had to set up the bars, and basically, at all these parties, I just had to babysit the booze and then leave. That was it. And so I brought my friend Chris Shea. And again, this was my first party. And I'm talking. Chris goes to scope out the scene, and I'm talking with this really, really nice guy at the bar. And then, Chris, we have 10 more.

[Jeff Lewis]

Minutes before it gets to the point.

[Alisa]

No, here it is. Here it is.

[Jeff Lewis]

I. I know the story, and I'm just warning you guys, go ahead and use the restroom right now.

[Doug Button]

No, this is it. So I'm talking with this very nice guy at the bar, and then Chris comes up to me, and he is looking at the guy that I'm talking to with, you know, his absolutely agape. And I said, oh, Chris, this is my new friend Chris. But he likes to be called Lewd Chris. And I think it's the funniest nickname. Shay is kicking me, kicking me. The guy's name is Ludacris, who's like a big.

[Jeff Lewis]

We all know Ludacris. Now. What about the Prince story?

[Alisa]

Oh.

[Doug Button]

Oh, yeah. Sorry. So then Prince. I had to go back the next. Thank you. I had to go back the next day to pick up all the leftover product and the gutter mats, all the napkin everything. And so my car, which was a Saab, was in the shop, and they gave me a loaner car, which was a purple PT Cruiser.

[Alisa]

No way.

[Doug Button]

Chrysler. I drove up to the. I mean, yeah, I drove up to Prince's house, and the Major Domo, or the Bodyguard, whoever it was, he said, Mr. Prince wants to see your car. And I looked up, and Prince was standing right in the second Floor. And he was looking and he sort of waved. And then he came down and he came outside and he said, I love your car. And I said, oh, it's just a loner. And he was asking me questions about it and I didn't know.

[Alisa]

And you didn't even understand why he didn't understand because it was purple and then. Right, yeah, exactly, exactly. That is.

[Doug Button]

And he sat in the car.

[Alisa]

How have we been friends for so long and I've allowed this to happen?

[Doug Button]

So diminutive. He was a teeny person.

[Alisa]

Yes. He's a small.

[Jeff Lewis]

Well, compared to you.

[Doug Button]

Short in stature as well as slight in frame.

[Alisa]

I danced on stage with Prince.

[Lauren Lake]

You did remember that when he used.

[Alisa]

To bring people up on stage like that last big tour that he did.

[Doug Button]

Oh, Courtney Cox in the Phillies.

[Alisa]

And I was sitting in the front. I have never been. So I'm a. Like a psycho weird fan. So I really, like. I was beside myself.

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh, my God. So did he get in your car?

[Doug Button]

Yeah, he sat in the driver's seat and he pushed a button or two and then he got out and he loved.

[Lauren Lake]

He pushed a button.

[Doug Button]

And this was before we had iPhones and stuff. Like, he didn't take pictures or anything, but he was asked. He was very interested. And it was a. It was a sort of an untoward purple. It was glittery. It was a showy.

[Jeff Lewis]

But he liked it.

[Doug Button]

Loved it.

[Lauren Lake]

What did he have on?

[Doug Button]

He had a robe.

[Lauren Lake]

Oh, he had a robe, yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

Now, where did you meet his robe lud Chris?

[Doug Button]

At one of the bars that I had set up.

[Jeff Lewis]

At Prince's house?

[Doug Button]

Yeah, at Princess. Penelope Cruz was there and Selma.

[Lauren Lake]

Was she there?

[Jeff Lewis]

You could say.

[Doug Button]

Whoever. They were not gonna know. I'll tell you. There were a lot of famous people, but I just. I never know who any. That's the thing, is I don't know that I'm supposed to be impressed. Not because they're not impressive people, just because I don't know who they are. So I'm.

[Jeff Lewis]

You know. So we're doing a memorial service at the temple, and then we're going to caravan over to the funeral or to the burial site.

[Doug Button]

The cemetery is two hours north of New York. I'll say this for your benefit.

[Jeff Lewis]

I don't think I can make it.

[Doug Button]

You can tack on a visit to Dorinda because the Bluestone manor is about 15 minutes away. She could do a party for me, maybe Caitlin.

[Jeff Lewis]

So I'll just text her, Hey, I just have to stop at this funeral real quick. Just do a Drive by.

[Doug Button]

Remember that guy Doug? Well, he's dead. Not be in the neighborhood.

[Jeff Lewis]

And then what. What music are we playing at?

[Alisa]

I was gonna say service.

[Doug Button]

Yeah, it'll be classical music, which, you know, my mom has the same thing. She has. I have to find a live orchestra to play at her funeral, and I want the same.

[Jeff Lewis]

Don't you think it makes sense for you to play the Spice Girl since you discovered them?

[Doug Button]

Well, they may want to give a tribute concert for me.

[Lauren Lake]

Do you know what picture you want? Cause I think that's important. Like, what is that big blow up picture? Because you know, you can't trust other people to choose.

[Jeff Lewis]

You're right. You need to pick out that. Don't let other hair on it.

[Lauren Lake]

Yes.

[Doug Button]

Holding my Emmy.

[Alisa]

You holding your.

[Doug Button]

Holding your Emmy in one hand and my Tony in the other.

[Lauren Lake]

Okay, great.

[Doug Button]

I love it.

[Lauren Lake]

I love it.

[Alisa]

Done.

[Lauren Lake]

So you gotta know those things.

[Jeff Lewis]

So no picture.

[Doug Button]

It hasn't happened. AI.

[Jeff Lewis]

What picture?

[Doug Button]

You can pull. No, I think maybe something with me and my dog.

[Lauren Lake]

That would be lovely. There could be multiple.

[Jeff Lewis]

You looked very nice at Sutton's last night, I thought. I mean, you're spending money on your wardrobe, Doug.

[Doug Button]

Well, these are all good sale items. This is the time to buy. Because of all the sales.

[Jeff Lewis]

He was wearing something more fitted last night, which I think looks good on him. And you said to me, does it look like I've lost weight? And I said, no, but the blazer and the sweater look really nice on you.

[Alisa]

Yes, they looked. And the pocket square. We had a discussion. Discussion about the pants because I understand he. There were some Nantucket red pants that he was considering wearing because he wanted to have a little like holiday flair. But they. That is a summer item.

[Jeff Lewis]

You didn't need holiday flair.

[Alisa]

But the pocket square, which. That looked great, by the way. But so then he chose the. And then there was a lighter blue, which wasn't quite right. And you. What you chose was pretty.

[Jeff Lewis]

How nice he looks.

[Doug Button]

And as a name.

[Lauren Lake]

Oh, you do look nice.

[Doug Button]

Sweater. I've never done that. Like a sweater with no shirt underneath.

[Alisa]

Oh, and you can't see the pocket square in there, but it's.

[Lauren Lake]

Oh, what color is the pocket squares?

[Doug Button]

Red with white.

[Jeff Lewis]

You could do that. You were not giving nipple at all.

[Lauren Lake]

Oh, I love the.

[Jeff Lewis]

So you wore the sweater without a shirt underneath.

[Doug Button]

I just wore an undershirt.

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh, so you did have a shirt under.

[Lauren Lake]

Love it.

[Doug Button]

A tank top.

[Jeff Lewis]

I think you're just used to wearing multiple layers.

[Doug Button]

Not a T shirt, a tank top. Like a sleeveless Sleeveless tank.

[Jeff Lewis]

Sexy.

[Lauren Lake]

And again, what's.

[Jeff Lewis]

Somebody thought he was going to take off that sweater.

[Doug Button]

Here.

[Lauren Lake]

Here it is, ladies.

[Jeff Lewis]

No, there were a lot of gays last night at Sutton's. Of course.

[Doug Button]

Well, there was a kid. All gays.

[Alisa]

Name Em. Okay.

[Doug Button]

Peter, Alex, Arthur.

[Alisa]

It was a lovely party, though. And she's so lovely. I had never met her before.

[Doug Button]

Well, you're saying that because when I brought Elisa over to meet Sutton, the first thing Sutton did was said, oh, my God, I am a huge fan of oh, no wonder you love me.

[Alisa]

She might have called me an icon. Maybe she might have.

[Jeff Lewis]

Do we talk about the embarrassing incident that happened on the red carpet for you?

[Lauren Lake]

Oh, what happened?

[Jeff Lewis]

Well, I mean, it's what they wrote about you.

[Alisa]

Oh, where is she?

[Jeff Lewis]

There's an article.

[Alisa]

Who is she?

[Jeff Lewis]

Who is she? So you were at the. The Housemaid premiere.

[Alisa]

Correct.

[Jeff Lewis]

And you looked great. You were on the red carpet.

[Alisa]

Thank you.

[Jeff Lewis]

And then the article started circulating.

[Alisa]

Yeah, there were many articles, which it's a little bit, like, odd to say. You're.

[Lauren Lake]

It looks stunning.

[Alisa]

You know what it says? Iconic. You know, Bombshell. What cracks me up about this is that 90s bombshell. I was emaciated in the 90s, so I don't really feel like that's the proper way.

[Doug Button]

Because you looked like you were in the 90s.

[Alisa]

Anyway.

[Jeff Lewis]

90S bombshell makes red carpet appearance in plunging green gown 30 years after hit movie. Who is she?

[Alisa]

Who is she?

[Lauren Lake]

Where's she at?

[Alisa]

I mean, it's very bizarre.

[Lauren Lake]

It is.

[Alisa]

It's very bizarre.

[Lauren Lake]

I at first thought it was the mystery, but. Yeah, it was a tad bit of shade.

[Doug Button]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

Like, you know.

[Lauren Lake]

But then it goes on to, like.

[Alisa]

Say all the things that I've done.

[Lauren Lake]

So, you know, exactly what.

[Alisa]

But then the other one was not as bad. It's like, oh, you okay?

[Lauren Lake]

No. Let's go back to English class. Maybe it is. Who is she?

[Alisa]

Right.

[Lauren Lake]

That's a different. That's a different inflection.

[Alisa]

Meaning. Do you want to know who she is?

[Lauren Lake]

Let me tell you. And then they go and tell you.

[Alisa]

Who she is, and that's why they're like, which one?

[Jeff Lewis]

That's reframing which one?

[Alisa]

I like a reframe. I tried. I tried. Which 90s icon is she? Exactly. Who is she?

[Lauren Lake]

Let me tell you.

[Alisa]

Who is she?

[Jeff Lewis]

That's a whole other way of looking at it.

[Alisa]

Yeah.

[Lauren Lake]

I love it.

[Doug Button]

We must put that degree to work.

[Alisa]

Lemons or lemonade?

[Doug Button]

Who is she?

[Alisa]

Who is she? Who is she? Yeah.

[Doug Button]

Or who is she? How was the Housemaid?

[Jeff Lewis]

I can't wait to see.

[Alisa]

The Housemaid is an incredible movie. It is a wild ride. It is so well made. Amanda say everybody is terrific in it. It's directed, like, to a T. It's so great. Amanda Seyfried is like, next level. I don't even know what to say. I know her a little. She's very. Her husband is very good friends with a very good friend of mine. So I've. I. You know, I know her a little, but not really, but she was. I don't even know what to say. She's so good.

[Jeff Lewis]

So now, I saw your post on Instagram, which did you use? ChatGPT.

[Alisa]

No, I do not use ChatGPT.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay? Because it says diabolical and clever. Brilliantly crafted, masterfully acted all around. What? This film is a scary and funny thrill of a ride that must go on. Sit down, buckle your seatbelts and hang on.

[Alisa]

You're welcome.

[Doug Button]

Cut. Meat paste. You absolutely took that from someone.

[Alisa]

I did not.

[Doug Button]

Oh, come on.

[Alisa]

I did not. You guys. I am a published author, okay? So I was an English bitch.

[Lauren Lake]

You better wake me when you fail somebody. She said, that's right. Say, I know that's right.

[Alisa]

I know that's right.

[Doug Button]

Who is she?

[Lauren Lake]

So you better tell somebody.

[Alisa]

I did not use ChatGPT. I have a moral. I absolutely will not use that for any kind of writing. No way. No way.

[Doug Button]

I used it for the first time and I was.

[Jeff Lewis]

How'd you get invited to the premiere?

[Alisa]

I'm a 90s icon. Bombshell, right?

[Lauren Lake]

How do you know?

[Doug Button]

So how'd you get invited to the premiere?

[Lauren Lake]

You didn't hear?

[Alisa]

Because. From Lionsgate. Lionsgate invites me to their events and. Their events. Yeah, they do. I host.

[Jeff Lewis]

So you came out of obscurity for that?

[Alisa]

I came out of obscurity for that, from my quiet life with my husband and my daughter. That's apparently what I do, is I just have a quiet life at home.

[Jeff Lewis]

I saw that you got your holiday balls installed.

[Alisa]

I got my balls installed. What happened?

[Doug Button]

Weren't you supposed to get some?

[Lauren Lake]

Yeah, I know.

[Alisa]

They ghosted us.

[Jeff Lewis]

No, they're edging me. These people.

[Alisa]

The reason I posted it and tagged you guys is because I thought, again, they were sending them to you.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah, they reached out, said they asked for an address. They were going to send holiday balls. We were going to use them at the Chump Miss event, and then I was going to take them home and put them in my yard.

[Doug Button]

These are inflatable. Never arrived.

[Lauren Lake]

So.

[Jeff Lewis]

So Christmas was ruined for us.

[Alisa]

Christmas didn't happen this year.

[Jeff Lewis]

Well, the whole holidays, it's already. I mean.

[Alisa]

Yeah, you can start decorating.

[Jeff Lewis]

Monroe is devastated. What's the name of that company?

[Alisa]

Holly Balls.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah, Hollyball's ruined our Christmas holidays.

[Alisa]

Do you think they have an administrative execution issue? Sort of like us at the mall yesterday? There was a lot of like, oh.

[Jeff Lewis]

You think somebody was injured from Holly Ball?

[Alisa]

No, no.

[Doug Button]

Like somebody on their side.

[Alisa]

No, someone on their side.

[Jeff Lewis]

Someone dropped the ball.

[Alisa]

Somebody dropped.

[Lauren Lake]

That's right.

[Doug Button]

Her name is Holly. What if your name is Holly and you work.

[Alisa]

I do. I'm a little bit. I'm offended by this.

[Jeff Lewis]

I'm very upset by it.

[Alisa]

You should be.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah. Really upset.

[Doug Button]

And what's the retail on these?

[Jeff Lewis]

Monroe cried for days over the holiday.

[Alisa]

I mean, they should. They owe you not only the balls, some therapy.

[Jeff Lewis]

Well, I think we have to find another company now because, I mean, Holly Ball is not the only person that makes Holly Balls, Right?

[Doug Button]

Get me Jolly Ball on the phone.

[Alisa]

There are many balls.

[Jeff Lewis]

Christmas Ball.

[Alisa]

There's more than one ball.

[Doug Button]

Jolly Ball, Molly Ball.

[Jeff Lewis]

How many different balls are there, Jameson?

[Alisa]

I put one in your rundown from Balsam Fir. Does that make sense?

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh, that's rich.

[Lauren Lake]

Oh, I didn't see it on their site. I just got a big order in from them.

[Jeff Lewis]

You did?

[Alisa]

Yeah.

[Doug Button]

They have good.

[Jeff Lewis]

I saw on. On social media. I was looking to buy them. It was like Amazon. They are, but they were 120. But they look cheap.

[Alisa]

I no, see, these don't look cheap.

[Jeff Lewis]

I know. That's why I want the Holly Ball.

[Alisa]

They are.

[Lauren Lake]

All the ones on Holly Ball that didn't come are perfect.

[Alisa]

I will tell you this. When you eventually get. You have to inflate them fully, like to the point where you're scared, where you think they're going to pop. But it takes all the little, like, wrinkle out, which is what makes them so real.

[Doug Button]

I'm looking at competitor.

[Alisa]

Those don't look good.

[Jeff Lewis]

Fun Boy has a great product. Fun Boy doesn't look as good as Holly Ball.

[Alisa]

I'm also wondering, at night, in the cold, do they shrink a little and then do they swell?

[Lauren Lake]

And then they. So. Well, what Then they swell.

[Alisa]

Well, San Francisco. Mine are in. Mine are in bright sun. Mine are in bright sun. In the morning. Sorry. In the afternoon, do they get sunburned?

[Doug Button]

Sunburn balls?

[Alisa]

Pottery Barn makes them. Oh, I think those are the. I think Pottery Barn sells poly balls.

[Jeff Lewis]

Are you serious? How much are they do.

[Lauren Lake]

You're right.

[Alisa]

It is Damn it.

[Jeff Lewis]

They've kind of cornered the market on pottery bars.

[Alisa]

They really have.

[Lauren Lake]

Well, I'm.

[Alisa]

This is like balls. They need to be cut. We should make our own balls. Were you sure?

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh, Jeff Lewis merch. Yeah, Jeff Lewis merch.

[Lauren Lake]

And they're small, and there's.

[Doug Button]

And misshapen.

[Alisa]

There are small ones. There are. There are small balls available?

[Jeff Lewis]

Well, they need to be deflated and small. And we should mention these balls came to us because Elise's balls were roaming around the neighborhood.

[Lauren Lake]

Oh, they were loose balls.

[Jeff Lewis]

Were your balls better secured?

[Alisa]

My balls are better secured. You know what I did? I attached them.

[Jeff Lewis]

You have to tie them down.

[Alisa]

Yes, but because I have them, you know what's the stuff? You put the netting that the gardener puts over so the grass doesn't grow, and then you put little rocks.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yes.

[Alisa]

So you can't get through the net. So that was part of my problem. So I did put the stake through a little, but then I've also. I tied it to the tree, and I kind of, like, jammed them. So they. They kind of don't look quite as good as they did last year, but they're not going anywhere. I also put them back towards the house instead of in the front, because now I have a couple of agave in the front. So it's like a different setup, but I think they're more secure. Is.

[Jeff Lewis]

My point was last year, was that the year the balls blew away?

[Lauren Lake]

Oh, yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

Did you lose all of your balls?

[Alisa]

I lost all my balls. And you had to buy new ones every ball? No. 3. No, the neighbors brought back two or three of them. No, the neighbors brought back 2. Two different people. And then one I found. I was on a run, and I was like, oh, my God, there's my ball. Oh, I'm just so driveway. I was like, there's my ball.

[Doug Button]

You could have got it.

[Lauren Lake]

Did you pick it up and run back with it?

[Alisa]

I picked it up and I ran back with it. Yes.

[Doug Button]

San Francisco has a lot of hills. I'm just seeing picture balls rolling down the hill.

[Jeff Lewis]

Were there three balls total?

[Alisa]

There were, but now I've got five. Wow. Yeah. And then I do have the minis that I haven't hung them from, from the tree. I haven't had time, but.

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh, I love that idea. When are you gonna do it? After Christmas.

[Alisa]

I'm thinking, like, 27th, 28th. That's when I'm going to have time to do it.

[Lauren Lake]

January 3rd.

[Jeff Lewis]

Are you using a bicycle pump?

[Alisa]

What do you. No, it comes with a pump.

[Jeff Lewis]

No electric Pump.

[Alisa]

An electric pump.

[Jeff Lewis]

Holly balls. They have thought of everything except giving them to you.

[Alisa]

You plug the thing in, it comes.

[Jeff Lewis]

With a little knob.

[Lauren Lake]

Oh, that's good.

[Alisa]

That you stick in the thing.

[Lauren Lake]

Well, I want some key knob that.

[Alisa]

You stick in the ball and then it blows up. It's a very efficient product. It's very well made.

[Lauren Lake]

Oh, I want a few now.

[Alisa]

Yeah, you should.

[Doug Button]

Well see if you could add to your.

[Lauren Lake]

It already came my orders in.

[Doug Button]

Did you get a tre?

[Lauren Lake]

I did not. I already had a tree. I already had five trees. Cause, you know, I just have too many storages. So I put them all up and I don't need another tree, but I wanted some. Well, I did this garland and then CJ was disappointed that down the rail length staircase it didn't have lights, so it was not good enough. And so that was a thing. So then I had to order from them.

[Doug Button]

I would be disappointed.

[Alisa]

Yeah.

[Lauren Lake]

But I didn't use theirs because it came too late. They did take a little bit. It took some time. So I had another one that he loved more that's up now, which, as I was telling Keon last night, I'm a little overstimulated in my own home. I leaned into. Well, C.J. is like. He's got opinions now, you know, And I thought he was kind of over it because he's 15, but he's not quite. He wanted that house doing Christmas. And so since his team color is red and black, he wanted to incorporate red this year. So I said, okay. I'm usually a neutral metallic person. I love silver, gold, neutral tones. I've got red. I've got red poinsettias. I've got red. There is red going on in my house.

[Alisa]

Red is tough too.

[Lauren Lake]

I have never. And he looked at me yesterday and he's like, mommy, we've never had red before. He's so happy. Cause it's such a happy. It feels so happy in there. And I'm so overstimulated.

[Jeff Lewis]

It doesn't look like a haunted house with all the red.

[Lauren Lake]

No, the. Look, my tree is not red. Red, red. I just have these big kind of points. Wait, a red tree?

[Alisa]

Like red?

[Lauren Lake]

No, I didn't do red balls on.

[Alisa]

Day four on the tree.

[Lauren Lake]

But I have these big red, like large poinsettias kind of in like maybe like 10 of them. So it peaks a little red. But the garland, this garland he fell in love with down the staircase is red. It's. It's got red balls on it. So I had to balance it I was so stressed out yesterday, I went and bought these gold things because I was like, I had to balance play down the red and I played on the red. And I literally by hand went through and affixed all of this new goal to kind of.

[Jeff Lewis]

I want to see pictures.

[Alisa]

You sent me pictures that we do.

[Jeff Lewis]

She has good tears.

[Lauren Lake]

I'm so stressed out. I was.

[Alisa]

So this is the thing, like, Christmas is for kids. It is. And so sometimes your house winds up looking.

[Lauren Lake]

Oh, it is.

[Alisa]

And we got to do it.

[Lauren Lake]

And he loves it. And he even told me, I said, well, where do you want to go on vacation? Because we were going to do a last minute vacation next week. And he looked at me, he goes, mommy, I just love the way the house looks so much. If we go anywhere and it's not decorated good like this, I don't want to go.

[Alisa]

I was like, wait, you are winning. As a mom, I never heard anything like that.

[Lauren Lake]

I'll hide in my room.

[Jeff Lewis]

You won't even hang the balls on the tree.

[Lauren Lake]

I literally go hide in my room, which is neutral tones. And then the upstairs den, I did in all neutral tones with like a white tree. So that's my room that I can just go. But he gets so happy and he's just like, I don't want to go anywhere if they don't have the decorations like this.

[Jeff Lewis]

Can you help Doug with his tree? Cause it has no personality whatsoever.

[Doug Button]

Beautiful.

[Jeff Lewis]

It looks like. No, it looks like a bank or post office.

[Doug Button]

Both places you respect and admire.

[Alisa]

So I will say it did make me laugh when he told me that you said it looked like the lobby of a bank. But I felt very cozy. I walked in and went Monday and there was lovely Christmas music playing that was the same mix that I or similar to Christmas album Lewd Chris's Christmas album. And the lights were on and the tree was warm and the little mini tree. Yeah, I think it feels very.

[Jeff Lewis]

I miss his old decorations and I miss his bubble lights.

[Doug Button]

But you know what? Something for you to look forward to, change.

[Alisa]

But you don't like the wreaths outside. It looks so.

[Jeff Lewis]

I do like the wreaths. I do want to talk to you about that after the break, though.

[Alisa]

They look super pretty.

[Doug Button]

They are. I have illegal Christmas lights from Canada and I did not put those up. Those.

[Jeff Lewis]

What, you afraid you're going to get a ticket or arrested?

[Doug Button]

I don't know.

[Alisa]

No, he's afraid the house is going to burn now, probably.

[Doug Button]

That's more like it.

[Alisa]

Yeah.

[Doug Button]

But I did. That's why I didn't I didn't do any this year. My my tree is very, very simple to match the rest of my house because the tree itself is sort of too.

[Lauren Lake]

It's too simple.

[Jeff Lewis]

I like generic. You would. You'd hate it.

[Alisa]

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[Alisa]

Yes, I did.

[Lauren Lake]

You know what?

[Alisa]

I did.

[Jeff Lewis]

Who is she?

[Alisa]

Who is she?

[Jeff Lewis]

It's your first job. It's the first job since Clueless, right?

[Alisa]

It's the first job since Clueless.

[Lauren Lake]

Yeah.

[Alisa]

So happy to get back out there.

[Jeff Lewis]

So, okay, so explain this podcast.

[Alisa]

Okay? It's called Killer Thriller and It is on iHeartRadio and it is under the umbrella of TJ Holmes and Amy Robach. And it is a true crime podcast where I will be interviewing the people that make the films and TV shows that are based on true crimes. So for example, I just did the first one and I interviewed Mandy Matney and Liz Farrell, who are the podcaster journalists who broke the Murdoch murders story and the Hulu series Murdoch Murder in the Family. Mandy is one of the executive producers of that. So it's from a new perspective of talking about how like how you approach.

[Doug Button]

It, how to get away with it.

[Alisa]

How how it is the creative process of bringing those things to the screen.

[Jeff Lewis]

Says real stories and portrayals of the most talked about cases of murder, kidnappings, sex, cults and fraud.

[Alisa]

Yep.

[Jeff Lewis]

Great for the Holidays.

[Alisa]

So are you gonna be in there? Happy holidays. Happy holidays.

[Lauren Lake]

Oh, go ahead.

[Jeff Lewis]

I was gonna say, I just don't peg you as, like, a crime expert.

[Lauren Lake]

I was just about to ask.

[Alisa]

I'm not a crime expert. I'm just obsessed with these shows. So we've been trying to do something for, like, a year or two, Amy. Like, I've been trying to figure out what would be a good podcast for me. And it was always sort of. We were thinking things more like the 90s or comedies or 90s villains or something. And, you know, Amy Sugarman will text me and say, do you like so and so? And I'll be like, do you. Do you want me to like, so and so?

[Lauren Lake]

I could.

[Alisa]

I could like that. And then she just said, said, are you into true crime? And I was like, I am obsessed with these shows. Like, I. I watch them incessantly. And then she's like, okay, I got the thing for us.

[Jeff Lewis]

Let me just tell you how it went down. She calls you. She says, do you. Are you into true crime? And you said, well, how much is it paying?

[Alisa]

Right. Well, she followed it up by saying, you know, here's what you'll pay. But look, I wouldn't do. Convinced, but, you know, it's weird.

[Lauren Lake]

Do you, like. Do you get obsessed with the details and, like, dream about it? Because I did a crime. What do they call it? Pilot, right? Where I was, like, the host of. When I had to study all those cases and I'm a former criminal defense attorney, it all start clicking to me. I was all night long solving cases in my mind. I couldn't sleep. All the details. And that show didn't go. And I said to myself, I was like, I'm almost like, I'm. Of course I would love to do the job. But I was almost relieved because I was like, how will I do this?

[Alisa]

Well, I have thought about it after weeks.

[Jeff Lewis]

Well, you're more qualified than she is.

[Alisa]

No, but it's from the creative perspective. So that's where I talk.

[Doug Button]

Storytelling.

[Alisa]

It's about storytelling. Yeah, but it does stick in you. My husband came upstairs the other night, and he's like. He came upstairs and I was like, this is, like, really disturbing. He's like, how are you gonna keep doing this? Well, at least now I'm paid to watch the things that.

[Lauren Lake]

That you watch anyway. Oh, this is a really cool.

[Jeff Lewis]

That's actually a really good picture of you.

[Lauren Lake]

Looks right.

[Alisa]

Who is she? Who is she?

[Jeff Lewis]

No, that's. That's a hot picture of you.

[Lauren Lake]

You tell Him.

[Alisa]

Alisa, you.

[Lauren Lake]

Not you.

[Alisa]

Not new to this.

[Lauren Lake]

You true to this.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay.

[Lauren Lake]

Am I correct you've been in this tv?

[Jeff Lewis]

Am I correct that that's a photo.

[Alisa]

From that funny shoot you did where you were, like, squirming? Remember we were making fun of her because I came here the next day after that photo shoot.

[Lauren Lake]

No, that's a really good picture.

[Jeff Lewis]

She looks professional in that photo.

[Lauren Lake]

She looks professional.

[Jeff Lewis]

Serious and professional.

[Alisa]

But you get it. And it's inside the tv, right? And it has, like, a vibe of. It's very clever now.

[Lauren Lake]

I like it.

[Alisa]

Super clever. Oh, yeah. I didn't make it up. I didn't make it up.

[Jeff Lewis]

No, we know you didn't.

[Lauren Lake]

And she's in the tv. So can you ask a question for me on your show?

[Alisa]

I mean, would I do that?

[Lauren Lake]

I want to know. I would love to know the thought behind how they get you, like, so addicted to where? You know, when I was pregnant with cj, Snapped was my show, honey.

[Alisa]

Yep.

[Lauren Lake]

That snapped. I mean, with the women snapping and killing the husbands and curls would be like, now are you. Do you need to tell me something? I don't know if it was my hormones or what. I could not stop watching Snap.

[Alisa]

No, you can't stop. I think it's different for everyone, but. Well, maybe not. But for me, I feel like I am. So. I'm obsessed with understanding human behavior and how we can get to these places and how people do the things they do. Because really, everybody's capable of a multitude of. Of good and bad, multitude of sins, and a case study right there. And I think it's like. It's a little bit of. Oh, God. So, for example, I remember when my mom was in the hospital having surgery for cancer. Her cancer. And I was. Well, I was also drinking wine in the stairwell in between, over the night. But I was reading the Goldfinch. Does anybody remember this book? The Goldfinch? I don't know. It is, like, a dark book. And I was like, oh, at least I'm not living the Goldfinch. You know what I mean? So there's a part of it.

[Jeff Lewis]

Don't know the reference. No idea. Wrong audience.

[Lauren Lake]

I didn't read, but I didn't know that one.

[Alisa]

He's gonna go look it up.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah. What's going on?

[Doug Button]

There's something to be said. Sometimes you're standing on a balcony and you're like, wow, all I have to do is jump or I could fall.

[Lauren Lake]

Right.

[Alisa]

How mess.

[Doug Button]

But you don't. And so there's something about Watching other people who go through that, who do make the turn, who do snap, who do flip, that makes you feel better and more secure about yourself.

[Lauren Lake]

It's a fictional story about a boy.

[Doug Button]

Who survives a bombing that kills his mother, and he steals a small fl.

[Jeff Lewis]

Famous painting, leading him into a world.

[Lauren Lake]

Of art, grief, and crime.

[Alisa]

That's so neat. Yes. But thank God that was a famous, famous book. Like a very successful.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay, we'll take your word for it.

[Alisa]

But it's really long, so I don't know if you'll get through it.

[Lauren Lake]

Jeff ain't reading it.

[Doug Button]

They should make a movie.

[Lauren Lake]

But they did make a movie. That's why I would like to watch it, you guys. I have to tell you, though, one time I was watching snacks, and literally when it came on, they started covering the house, and I was like, I've been in this house.

[Alisa]

Stop it. Are you kidding?

[Lauren Lake]

No, I. And I'm not gonna say anything more.

[Jeff Lewis]

But, yes, you are. All right, we'll go to commercial.

[Lauren Lake]

No, I mean, I'm not gonna tell the names, but I'm saying I knew I had been in the house. I knew I had been there. And then the person, the woman, it started looking familiar, and I couldn't think of it. It took me days. And then I realized. Realize I did. No, I knew I had been in that house with someone. I knew a relative of those people.

[Alisa]

Stop it.

[Lauren Lake]

I had been in that house where she murdered her husband. Just over there. Just over there. Yes. Where she murdered her. And I knew them. They were there. They were. I knew. I was like, this is crazy.

[Alisa]

See, this is what I'm saying. We are that close to these things, right? Like, you think, oh, this is an anomaly. Somebody who does.

[Lauren Lake]

I was a person, but I knew I had been in there.

[Doug Button]

That's where the murder.

[Alisa]

We were making a panzanella salad, and.

[Lauren Lake]

Then she sliced her throat and sprinkled the truffle salt in the wound.

[Doug Button]

Go to saltery store.

[Jeff Lewis]

But your honor, when you watch things like that, because, like, I very much. Sometimes when you watch the snap, I. Sometimes I'm like, I get it. That guy was an asshole. I could see why you killed him.

[Lauren Lake]

That's what Doug was.

[Alisa]

What?

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah, yeah.

[Alisa]

And we should say snapped is solely about women killing their partners.

[Lauren Lake]

Exactly, Exactly.

[Jeff Lewis]

Some of them deserve it.

[Lauren Lake]

But I'll tell you the other good one than that'll get you. And you can learn from this one. The First 48.

[Jeff Lewis]

What's that?

[Alisa]

Y' all ain't seen the First 48?

[Jeff Lewis]

Never heard of it.

[Lauren Lake]

The First 48 is a big crime show about how every crime. You have 48 hours to dig up as much facts and evidence as you can. Detectives know that in the first 48, that's when they critical moment after critical time. So it's them bringing in the people into, you know, interrogating them. It's fascinating. And you literally see them in interrogation and it teach. Well, I mean, I'm a criminal defense attorney, but it.

[Jeff Lewis]

Three times already.

[Lauren Lake]

How many people say, did I say it?

[Doug Button]

Who is she?

[Lauren Lake]

No, I'm not.

[Jeff Lewis]

It's okay. She's a 90s bombshell.

[Lauren Lake]

I don't mean it like that. I meant it that from the perspective that I'm looking at it. I can't believe how many people talk still to this day, get into interrogation rooms and they talk.

[Jeff Lewis]

They spell that.

[Lauren Lake]

They don't know to shut up.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay.

[Alisa]

It's crazy.

[Jeff Lewis]

I want to continue this. So is this on the same network as Goldfinch?

[Lauren Lake]

I don't know. I don't know.

[Jeff Lewis]

But since you are a Christian criminal defense.

[Lauren Lake]

Don't stop because I'm not handling.

[Jeff Lewis]

I want you. I'm just wondering if you could give us advice on how to get away with a crime. What we should and should not do.

[Doug Button]

How to get away with murder.

[Lauren Lake]

Well, that could be a great show.

[Doug Button]

Thanks, somebody.

[Jeff Lewis]

That is a good idea.

[Doug Button]

Yeah. Get me abc. That was a.

[Lauren Lake]

That was a great show.

[Alisa]

That was so good.

[Jeff Lewis]

How long did that go, that show?

[Doug Button]

Four years? No, like eight.

[Jeff Lewis]

I don't think I ever watched it.

[Doug Button]

Patrick developed that.

[Jeff Lewis]

I never watched it.

[Lauren Lake]

Oh, it's a good one. Yeah, it's a good one.

[Alisa]

Yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

I like this first.

[Lauren Lake]

Oh, no, you should check it out. It is riveting. And I'm gonna tell you, it's so crazy because when we used to live in Cincinnati, everywhere the crimes would be like. I would be like, oh, hell. I was just over there the other day. Oh, hell. That's where that story is. It would be certain cities. It's fascinating. You have to see it. And the amount that people go in there and tell. Like, you would never think, like, how do you.

[Alisa]

Because they don't have time to think about. Oh, I shouldn't say. It's like they're just. They're just saying what happened because they don't have the time to say, oh, wait a second.

[Lauren Lake]

Talking at all. Like, it's crazy that they can do a whole show of what they're getting people to admit and to say when. You know, as soon as you go in there you're supposed to say, I see my lawyer. I want to talk to my lawyer.

[Doug Button]

Okay?

[Jeff Lewis]

So that's the first thing that chumps should say.

[Lauren Lake]

Just. Just get a lawyer.

[Alisa]

I want to talk to my lawyer.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yes, I'd like to speak to my lawyer.

[Lauren Lake]

Do nothing else. And don't say nothing else.

[Jeff Lewis]

Don't say anything.

[Lauren Lake]

Not a word.

[Alisa]

Yep.

[Jeff Lewis]

Because right now, chumps are committing crimes. Dougie.

[Doug Button]

Yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

So let me ask you. The other day, you said you had to go home, and you had allotted a couple hours in the day because you were going to replace batteries. Were those of your wreaths?

[Doug Button]

Yes.

[Jeff Lewis]

See, I want the wreaths in my window of the new house, but I don't want to change those batteries.

[Doug Button]

Well, good for. That's lucky for you, because I. My wreaths are old, and so they. They are. They deplete the battery quickly. And, you know, the new ones are much lighter. They use, I think, double A batteries, and those will last a long time. My wreaths use D batteries when I.

[Lauren Lake]

Fill that thing, and that's. That's expensive. A lot of D batteries.

[Doug Button]

Yeah. So that's why. And I would have to replace them midway through the. The season.

[Jeff Lewis]

There's never enough D. Now, is it true that you'll be taking your tree down very quickly, like this weekend?

[Doug Button]

Well, yes. In fact, though, I may have enlisted the help of Kian because I told you I have to saw it in half to get it off.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah. Why are you taking it down?

[Doug Button]

Because when I return home, it will be New Year's, and I'm somebody. I don't want to walk into the. I want to walk into the future.

[Alisa]

I feel that. I feel that you take your tree.

[Lauren Lake]

Down before New Year every day if.

[Doug Button]

I'm gone, if I'm not gonna be home to enjoy it.

[Lauren Lake]

But if you're home, you take it down before.

[Doug Button]

Yes. The latest I've ever had my tree is until January 6th, the 12th day of Christmas, if I'm gonna be home every night.

[Lauren Lake]

Right.

[Doug Button]

But the epiphany. Yeah. I mean, and that is my birthday.

[Jeff Lewis]

So you're taking it down this weekend.

[Doug Button]

Maybe Sunday, Monday.

[Jeff Lewis]

You said Kian is gonna come over and help you.

[Doug Button]

Yeah, I think Keon may help me. Saw it in half, even after you.

[Jeff Lewis]

Were so rude to him and Annie, like, last night.

[Doug Button]

Was. I.

[Alisa]

Wait. Yes.

[Lauren Lake]

Oh, wait, you were.

[Alisa]

Yeah, me and Ken were standing there. We were, like, so excited to be enjoying our evening at Sutton Str.

[Doug Button]

Oh, okay. Yes.

[Alisa]

And you were like, it is so rude that you guys are here. No, And I go, well, Sutton saw me, and she was so excited to see me. And you were like she was being fake.

[Doug Button]

Well, instead of. Instead of saying, I did say that.

[Alisa]

I was like, should I leave? He goes, well, you're already here.

[Lauren Lake]

You're already here.

[Doug Button]

Instead of leading with my closing line of that exchange, why don't we talk about the preceding part, which is that.

[Jeff Lewis]

You said, doug's turning red.

[Doug Button]

Everybody didn't invite us. We weren't. We didn't know we were coming. She didn't invite us. Jeff at the last minute said, come along. And I said, oh. And you said, is that bad? I said, well, that's poor form.

[Jeff Lewis]

That's not what happened.

[Doug Button]

It is what happened.

[Jeff Lewis]

No, it's not what happened at all. So Annie was going. You don't mean.

[Doug Button]

That's not what happened. That's the exact exchange we had.

[Jeff Lewis]

No, but I'm saying that I didn't want to. I didn't bring them uninvited. I mean, I had talked to Sutton, and I told her that Shane was already going with Broken because he was invited. I was already bringing Michael back, and Annie was having a rough day, so I said, oh, my gosh, you should come to this party with us. Let me just text Sutton. And I actually called Sutton and I said, you know Keon and Annie from the show? She goes, I love them. I would love them for them to come. Text me their names, and I'll put them on the list.

[Doug Button]

Well, so why.

[Alisa]

That was proper.

[Jeff Lewis]

Why did you.

[Doug Button]

But then why did you say to me we weren't invited? I didn't know I was going to.

[Alisa]

Because we were kind of under the impression we were, like, a plus five, so.

[Jeff Lewis]

But you're also not her security.

[Doug Button]

Of course I'm not her security. I wasn't making any claims on her.

[Jeff Lewis]

Were you going around asking other guests whether they should be there or not?

[Alisa]

Which one are you?

[Doug Button]

No, but it was also because I think it started because you were. Said something about what you were wearing. You weren't.

[Alisa]

Oh, yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

Why didn't you want them there?

[Doug Button]

Oh, dumb.

[Alisa]

What's your beef?

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah, what's. Do you have beef with Kian and Annie?

[Doug Button]

I haven't any, son, because you have.

[Jeff Lewis]

No problem when you need to take your tree down, but then when he shows up at a party. What are you doing here?

[Alisa]

Who do you know we're invited.

[Doug Button]

Just in case you're listening.

[Alisa]

How did you get in? None of this is true.

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