Liz Roman & Michael Beck: Commando & Smoke Machines

Summary

JEFF LEWIS HAS ISSUES
Episode: Liz Roman & Michael Beck: Commando & Smoke Machines
Date: April 22, 2026
Guests: Liz Roman (manager/producer), Michael Beck (regular/Jeff’s friend)

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Episode Overview

Jeff Lewis is joined by his manager and producer Liz Roman, and close friend and regular contributor Michael Beck, live from Las Vegas. The trio dive into the chaos behind live event production, wild road stories, the realities of managing "chumps" (Jeff's inner circle), and of course, Jeff's classic, candid reflections on his own behavior and relationships. From logistical nightmares like smoke machines and overweight luggage to Michael’s preference for going commando and the team’s failed attempts to secure a new Chump Con venue, the episode is a mix of hilarious anecdotes, behind-the-scenes drama, and sharp, unscripted banter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Las Vegas Escapades and Morning Routines

• Jeff, Liz, and Michael are in Vegas following a night out full of gambling and late-night snacking.
• Michael confesses to faking a hangover to skip the first hour of “duty” and makes an easy $500 bet (01:25).
• "I'm not really hungover. I just knew that would be the easiest $500 I ever made." – Michael Beck (01:25)

Timestamps:

• 01:23 - Sleep routines after the sushi dinner and the night’s events.
• 02:26 - Multiple near misses as the crew secretly grab late-night snacks.

2. Fan Interactions & the Live Show Experience

• Liz is now not just Jeff's manager, but has become de facto live event producer out of necessity.
• They discuss the emotional impact of meeting fans face-to-face, including people who cry when meeting Jeff.
• "Sometimes you look at yourself in the mirror and like, what am I doing with my life?... And then I feel like, okay, I'm exactly where I'm supposed to be." – Jeff Lewis (05:30)

Timestamps:

• 04:41 - Liz’s accidental mistaken identity and her fondness for “Chumps” at live shows.
• 05:56 - The structure of Jeff’s live events: cocktail hour, show, meet and greet.

3. The Chaos of Live Event Logistics

• Liz likens herding Jeff’s friends and event staff to “herding cats”—only harder.
• Major personalities (Patrick, Paul, Sutton) can derail logistics by engaging too long with fans during meet and greets.
• Specific callouts of drama and difficulties with the "chumps", especially Patrick and Paul taking too long with attendees:
  "They're taking multiple pictures, scheduling coffee reads, facetiming moms." – Jeff Lewis (08:53)
• Memorable blowups and event moments, e.g., Beverly D'Angelo’s green room demands: “There was hot tea. There was inhalation treatments followed by cigarettes. None of it made sense.” – Liz Roman (10:04)

Timestamps:

• 07:00 - Managing “Chumps” at events.
• 08:57 - Specific gripes with Patrick and Paul’s meet-and-greet shenanigans.
• 10:04 - Beverly D'Angelo’s over-the-top green room prep.

4. Technical Mishaps: Smoke Machines, Mics & Lights

• Recurring tech fails: Todd (Jeff’s brother) brings elaborate props (smoke machine, laser) that never quite work, or create chaos—like a laser pointed into audience’s eyes and smoke machines choking the front rows.
• Liz: "None of his stuff works." (11:56)
• Michael: "It was giving them, like, seizures." (12:12)

Timestamps:

• 11:45 - Packing issues: Liz has to check three massive bags just to haul Todd’s equipment.
• 12:53 - “Why is Doug there?” Digression into the lovable but sometimes extraneous roles of Jeff’s team.

5. The Drama of Team Travel & Airbnb Assignments

• Liz relays the pure circus of traveling with stage equipment and heavy bags (one weighed 115lbs).
• Airbnb room negotiations: Liz avoids selecting a bedroom to head off group drama, ends up sharing a converted garage.
• "I do feel like if I claimed a bedroom, like, it might be drama later, right?" – Liz Roman (18:09)

Timestamps:

• 16:13 - The great luggage debacle at Burbank Airport.
• 18:13 - Arriving at the sweltering Phoenix Airbnb, divvying up bedrooms among the high-maintenance crew.

6. On the “Chump Con” Venue Hunt—Vegas Style

• A big segment is dedicated to the failed Vegas site visit: hotels overpromise, under-deliver, or simply don’t accommodate the kind of fun, offbeat event the Chumps want.
• Liz: “There was a four year old throwing a full on tantrum in what is kind of a small lobby. I was like, this is an interesting energy.” (27:37)
• Jeff struggles with venues offering only soulless conference rooms, lacking the vibe they want.

Timestamps:

• 23:58 - The “slick” hotel manager and his “videos” connection to Todd.
• 26:27 - “We were lied to.” (Liz and Jeff split hairs over who is to blame.)
• 27:36 - “The gall!”: The team learns they can't have karaoke due to potential noise complaints.

7. Outrageous Requests—Stage Magic, T-shirt Guns, and Rick’s “Videos”

• Todd’s wild stage demands: disappearing cabinets, smoke machines, magic tricks, and nearly dangerous t-shirt guns.
• "Nothing was worse than Chump Con with Todd last year." – Liz Roman (21:39)
• “He wanted a disappearing cabinet. He wanted to do a magic trip trick... he goes over time, typically.” – Liz Roman (21:52)

Timestamps:

• 21:32 - Todd’s stage requests and risks (t-shirt gun).

8. Michael’s Commando Reveal & Changing in Public

• Michael’s preference for going commando causes a scene as he changes clothes in the car, only for the driver to open the door mid-change.
• Hilarious and awkward:
  Jeff: “We just saw Michael’s ass.” (36:56)
• Later, debate ensues about the perils of traveling without underwear—airplane accidents, ripped pants, public indecency.

Timestamps:

• 35:47 - The short-shorts incident.
• 37:13 - The commando controversy and accidental flash.

9. Childhood Memories & Coachella Hiccups

• Michael reminisces about being left at the Excalibur arcade as a kid while his dad gambled (37:20).
• Michael’s mad scramble to secure a Coachella wristband—an absurd international relay results in a wristband flying from Australia to LAX.
• "It's easier for me to get this wristband from Sydney to Los Angeles than from Los Angeles to Palm Springs." – Michael Beck (39:54)

Timestamps:

• 37:20 - Michael’s Vegas childhood.
• 38:21 - The saga of the missing Coachella wristband.

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Quickfire Notable Quotes & Moments

• “Money doesn't make you an asshole. But if you're an asshole with a ton of money, you're gonna be a bigger asshole.” – Liz Roman (00:55)
• “This is a fucking shit show. And there’s always something going wrong, and there's always someone drunk stumbling through the audience, or somebody’s falling off the stage.” – Michael Beck (14:10)
• “I am not taking whatever is left home. And production goes, oh, no, we can take it... I go, oh my god.” – Liz Roman on event leftovers (17:57)
• “They wanted to put us in conference rooms like we're a convention. No personality, no vibe.” – Liz Roman (29:48)

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Next Steps, Announcements, and Fan Questions

• Chump Con 2026 plans in limbo; Brea Improv’s "Chumpmiss" event likely in December.
• East coast shows possible, but high production costs make them challenging.
• Jeff shares info about the beloved $20 Amazon star projector (“OneFire girls toy")—secret to magical hotel/bedroom ambiance (45:48).
• Liz’s current sleep aid: “Heavy on the Venus CBD lately because my husband... snoring is so out of control.” (47:11)

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Segments to Check Out

| Segment Topic | Timestamp | |------------------------------------------|------------| | Sleep/gambling recap | 01:23–03:31 | | Emotional fan moments & live show model | 04:41–05:56 | | “Herding chumps” logistics | 07:00–10:04 | | Backstage chaos (Beverly D’Angelo, etc.) | 10:04–12:13 | | Over-the-top props (smoke, lasers) | 11:45–13:13 | | Luggage & travel madness | 16:13–18:13 | | Airbnb and team drama | 18:09–19:55 | | Venue hunt debacles | 23:58–29:48 | | Magic tricks, t-shirt guns, Todd antics | 21:32–23:30 | | Michael’s commando confession | 35:47–37:13 | | Childhood casino memories | 37:20-38:21 | | Coachella wristband saga | 38:21–41:32 | | Star projector & sleep discussion | 45:48–47:27 |

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Summary

If you crave an honest, fly-on-the-wall look at the circus behind Jeff Lewis’s live events, this episode won’t disappoint. With quips flying, absurd mishaps, and no shortage of over-sharing, the conversation offers insights into the real work (and the real chaos) of being part of Team Jeff. Whether you’re a “chump” familiar with the personalities or a new listener, you’ll leave with a strong sense of just how unpredictable, comical, and touching life in Jeff’s orbit really is.

Transcript

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[Liz Roman]

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[Liz Roman]

When you're Jeff Lewis, the drama never stops.

[Jeff Lewis]

They said that I am by far the most difficult talent that they're working with. You know, we could say we don't judge. I judge and I was judging.

[Liz Roman]

Money doesn't make you an asshole. But if you're an and with a ton of money, you're gonna be a bigger asshole.

[Jeff Lewis]

Why are you looking at me?

[Liz Roman]

No, I didn't. I didn't mean to. I didn't mean to look in that direction.

[Jameson Scala]

Why?

[Liz Roman]

You're right at me. Jeff Lewis has issues.

[Jeff Lewis]

Hey, it's Jeff Lewis and I have issues. In today's episode, Liz Roman and Michael Beck join the show from Las Vegas. We talk about sleep routine, smoke machines, and why Michael prefers going commando. Liz has sunglasses on. Also, we are indoors here.

It is very bright.

[Liz Roman]

It's very bright.

[Michael Beck]

It's very bright in here. And can I tell you something? I want to reveal something. I'm not really hungover. I just knew that that would be the easiest $500 I ever made in my whole life. I could just sit back, relax, and she was gonna do the talking.

[Jeff Lewis]

I thought of that this morning. I'm like, we didn't need Michael the first hour.

[Michael Beck]

No.

[Liz Roman]

Okay, wait.

[Jeff Lewis]

So I went upstairs, we all came back, and it was probably 11:30, and Jeff was like, I think I'm gonna sit and gamble for a second. And I went upstairs at probably 11:40, and I was in bed by 12:20.

Okay. So what happened is I gambled a little bit. So I'm up 625.

[Liz Roman]

Really?

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah. I'm up 625.

You were up already before we even.

I was up 675. Then I lost 50. And I'm like, let's. Let's just. Let's just call it a night because you're up.

Two martinis.

So then I walk through the Tower Suites lobby, and there were A lot of people there. But I'm like, jeff, you got to go to bed. You got to go to bed. You got ready. You gotta get. You gotta get up at 6. So I get up to my room, and then I call Michael. Hey, the lobby's going off. Let's go down.

Wait, you made it all the way up? And then left again.

And Michael goes, I'll meet you in three minutes.

[Michael Beck]

Well, the truth is. The truth is because we went to that sushi restaurant for dinner, and, you know, I don't eat sushi. And I had my little snacks, but I was kind of hungry, so I was actually at the cafe.

[Jeff Lewis]

You were eating.

[Michael Beck]

I had got a. I thought you

[Jeff Lewis]

were in your room.

[Liz Roman]

Okay, wait a minute.

[Michael Beck]

No, I was getting up. Bowl of chicken noodle soup and a grilled cheese. No, but the funny thing is, when you called me, I had just checked out and just grabbed my food, and you're like, meet me there. So I had to run up to my room, throw my food in my room, and then come back down to meet you to the.

[Jeff Lewis]

That's funny, because I thought. I'm like, God, this is like the longest three minutes. And then I text him, like, hey, I'm sitting at the bar. What do you want? And that's what took you so long?

[Michael Beck]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

You brought my food?

[Michael Beck]

No, I didn't even eat it until later.

[Liz Roman]

Even worse, actually, I'm going to confess, because I. Okay. I did not actually feel that full after that sushi dinner either.

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And that.

[Liz Roman]

And I will say the cocktail at Lisa Vanderpump's Pinky. I took two sips of that, and I was like, hell, no.

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh, I forgot we met up with Lisa Vanderpump last night.

[Liz Roman]

That was where went down. Those cocktails are strong. So I. You two said, I'm gonna go gamble. Okay, bye, guys. I'm like, I need ice cream or I need something, so I'm gonna. Michael, I'm gonna. This is such a confession. I'm at the gelato stand, and I see you out of the corner of my eye going into the cafe. Stop my head. Because we're both secret. I was like, I don't want to see me. I totally saw you. And I was like, oh, no, no.

[Michael Beck]

Oh, no.

[Liz Roman]

I. And I ordered the wrong flavor. And I said, oh, crap, I didn't touch you. I go, I actually want a mint and chip. And she goes, now you have to have two scoops. So I was then walking through the lobby with a double scoop of ice

[Jeff Lewis]

up to my room. That's just sad now.

[Liz Roman]

It was, I thought, God, if I run into any of the guys, I will never live this down. But now I'm confessing all of it

[Jeff Lewis]

Now, Liz, we should probably remind our listeners because we talk about you all the time, but you are my manager and you're also become this kind of these live event producer whether you wanted to or not.

[Liz Roman]

Yes, you did back me into that. But I enjoy them very much because I love chumps. They are the nicest people. My favorite thing is when someone sees you, Jeff, and they start to cry or get choked up like Jeff, oh my God. I just think it's the sweetest thing ever because there's a side of you I think a lot of people don't know. And it comes through in those one on ones. And especially the pre cocktail hour. Don't. I'm not trying to upsell anybody anything.

[Jeff Lewis]

This is a good upseller.

[Liz Roman]

You actually do really, really give people one on one attention and time. It's so nice. I love it.

[Jeff Lewis]

That's true.

I've said this over and over. It means a lot to me when people come up and they say, look, you got me through this. You know, you got me through that, you got me through this. And it just means a lot to me. And it kind of. Because sometimes, you know, sometimes you look at yourself in the mirror and like, what am I doing? What am I doing with my life? What's my purpose? And I feel like whenever that happens, wherever I am, it's like, okay, I'm exactly where I'm supposed to be and I'm doing what I'm supposed to be doing. It's like affirmation.

[Liz Roman]

Yeah. And I think the live shows validate that because it's so intimate and it's three levels. Right. We have the pre cocktail hour, then we have the live show, and then we have the meet and greet afterwards. So you are talking to hundreds of people that evening and everybody has varying different reactions to you. And it's different generations. It's moms and daughters and husbands get dragged to it. But then they actually have a really good time. So it's. I've actually really enjoyed it. And I also want to say I God love her. I'm not Liz Rome. One of the live shows, I couldn't figure out. This was a couple years ago. I kept getting congratulated that I just got engaged. Now I've been married for like 26 years. And I'm like, what? Is there something I don't know? I mean, okay, Then I realize, blonde hair, blue eyes, Liz Rome, Liz Roman. Oh, my God. Oh, poor Liz Rome. No, I'm not her. So, like, I thought, you think Liz Rome would be here following Jeff around, taking pictures all day? I think she's a little above that. The director? No. So I am different than her, but I admire her greatly.

[Jeff Lewis]

Now, Liz, I love that you're, you know, you're pointing out all the positives of the live events, but now let's talk about the negatives, and that is hurting cats or managing chumps. It's wor. I mean, it's worse than hurting cats.

[Liz Roman]

I will say it's one. There are a lot of personalities, and it's the most challenging part because I have my pros. Okay. I have my team. Shout out Doug, shout out Jameson, Shout out Shane. You know, now can. I mean, there's just people that I know I can rely on to get us through it. Then there's other ones that are.

[Jeff Lewis]

Name them.

[Liz Roman]

Name them. Name them. I'm gonna say name them. I love you, Sutton. I'm gonna say Patrick and Paul. They were famously. Now I. You stand on your feet. Everybody polar, too. Wait a minute. Who are you? Did you do the audio? Who recorded me on audio? It was you, Ken, when I went off on Patrick and Pol. Because what people don't understand, they are fabulous at these events.

[Jeff Lewis]

They really are.

They love to meet people. They love to take selfies.

[Liz Roman]

So it's just the logistical side of it, right? Where we got to get things done in a timely manner. They are going to do selfies. They are walking around with a dog. They are upselling everything they have in their catalog. And if I have them on stage, Jeff just wants to move the meet and greet along.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah. So. So during that, the post show meet and greet, there's a line of anywhere from 150 to maybe even 200. And they wanted to have a moment with Jeff, but with each and every chump. So Liz gets specifically especially frustrated in that moment when. And the people in line want to get through it, too. They want to have their moment.

Well, that's where I feel bad because I see the. I see the back of the line, and I see that it's not moving. And people have been waiting there up to like an hour and 15 minutes. And then I look down to my right, and Patrick and Paul are exchanging numbers.

They're taking multiple pictures, scheduling coffee reads, facetiming, moms.

And you did lose it one night.

[Liz Roman]

Well, that's because we were having. They always say, no, it's not us. It's not us. It's not us. It is them. God love them. So I said, don't gaslight me, you sons of bitches. I'm like, I know what you're up to, but I love them because now we've put them down to work the crowd and they entertain the crowd.

[Jameson Scala]

At this last event, Liz said, I was holding someone up and she looked at me and pointed and she goes,

[Liz Roman]

don't make me yell at you the way I yell at Bull and Petri also. Cause I, you know, I'm very professional at these events. Do not drink. We're trying to stick to a schedule to get it done. And Jeff is eyeballing me through the whole thing. Are we on time? Is this moving along? Are we. Are we on time? It's like, oh, my gosh. So, you know, you're trying to move it along. So certain times it's like, I have to be the bad mom of, like, come on, everybody.

[Michael Beck]

But overall, the most high maintenance of all of the chums or thing.

[Jeff Lewis]

Beverly d' Angelo, famously.

[Michael Beck]

Oh, yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

She had an iconic appearance at a chump miss. She came out as iconic. She sang a number. But to prepare for that number was hours and hours in the green room of preparation.

[Liz Roman]

There was hot tea. There was inhalation treatments followed by cigarettes. None of it made sense.

[Jeff Lewis]

No, it's because. No, she was on vocal rest. She was drinking hot tea, but then she needed a shot of 1942 because that, you know, lose up the chords and then it's back to vocal rest with the nebulizer. And then it. Step outside and bum a cigarette off a chump. It was ups and downs of the process. And Liz was very.

All right, you've been very positive about Patrick and Paul and. And there is a lot of. There's a lot of positives about them. But how did you feel when Patrick blamed you for the mic not working at Phoenix?

[Liz Roman]

He did well.

[Jeff Lewis]

He said that you and. Was it Doug?

Yeah, you and Doug. When you did the tech check, Jameson, was it you?

Who was he blamed? Two people. Keen can't remember. Ken and Liz. It was Keon and Liz.

[Liz Roman]

I'm going to tie this right into Vegas. It was Showgirls. You know what sabotage we were. That's what we were up to. I mean, what does he think, really? It's an on and off button. The problem is they're constantly walking around and the microphone's like an accessory. And it's like. So he keeps hitting the on and off button. So it's not Doug or my fault. And at the. They do a great job in the audience, so I'm not taking anything away from them.

[Jeff Lewis]

They do.

[Liz Roman]

And they actually have enough volume. I think they could project from wherever they were. So it was not an issue.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah, he said that you never. You and Keon did not test the mics and that his mic didn't work. But yes. Then the. Then the audio guy, Pat Phoenix, said that he had turned it off accidentally.

[Liz Roman]

No. Okay, listen, we do full tech run throughs and my favorite texts are with, you know, Le Kendra and your brother Todd. Because this Las Vegas trip, I mean, first of all, I had to check three freaking bags for your brother.

[Jeff Lewis]

I mean, the Phoenix.

Phoenix.

[Liz Roman]

What was the name? Vegas Phoenix. Okay. I just checked three bags because he was bringing a smoke machine, a laser machine.

[Michael Beck]

Okay. But the laser machine was a problem because it was in the back of the. The place.

[Liz Roman]

None of his stuff works a problem.

[Michael Beck]

But the problem was the laser machine was pointing into the eyes of the audience. So the audience kept getting up and coming to us in production and being like, hey, this lighting system is not working because it's the laser pointing directly into the people.

[Liz Roman]

It was giving them, like, seizures.

[Michael Beck]

Yeah.

[Liz Roman]

And then when he does the smoke machine, it's directly into the front tables and people like, can you get rid of the smoke machine? But Todd wants to create an atmosphere and experience for people.

[Michael Beck]

It's so bootleg.

[Liz Roman]

It's. We get to Phoenix and the stage is small. He's like, well, I can't have my backup dancers. Oh, you were gonna have backup dancers. Okay, fine. I. I can't do my costume change now. You were gonna have a costume change.

[Jeff Lewis]

He was.

[Liz Roman]

So you just kind of roll with Todd and himalay Kendra, we do full tech rehearsals to tech. Listen, Doug is the best. I let him and Jameson roll with those mics. He's sibilance, semblance, assemblance on every microphone, testing the volume.

[Jeff Lewis]

Can I ask you something, though?

[Liz Roman]

Yes.

[Jeff Lewis]

Why is Doug there? Because he's not performing and he's not moderating.

[Liz Roman]

Because Doug, God love him, likes to be involved.

[Michael Beck]

She's a little controlling.

[Liz Roman]

And it gives him peace of mind, I think, to know that it's going to run smoothly within his control because it's usually a bit of a shit show.

[Jeff Lewis]

I mean, look, I love that he's there and I love that he's helping out, but then sometimes I have to remind myself, oh, you're. You're not even in the show really, but.

[Liz Roman]

Well, well, he is your. I think he's one of your biggest supporters.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yes.

[Liz Roman]

And he wants to make sure you are presented very well publicly.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yes.

[Liz Roman]

So I love him. I mean, I let him do what he's gonna do because I think it's for the benefit of the show. And there's a lot of cooks in this kitchen and there's a lot of egos. So a lot of times I realize it's stepping back for me and just making it run smoothly because we want the fans have a good experience. And I will admit something, I usually go on Reddit the next day.

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh, why?

[Liz Roman]

Because I think nasty. Well, sometimes it's constructive criticism. Sometimes. And I do want to know, like, is there something we could do better? Was there something we did really wrong or off? And for the most part, everybody that goes has a fabulous time and there's usually fomo.

[Michael Beck]

Well, I think you have. I think that you have to realize, like, the people that come to these shows, they're not coming for some, like, award winning, like, show. They're coming because this is a fucking shit show. The whole thing is a mess. And there's always something going wrong and there's always somebody drunk stumbling through the audience or somebody's falling off the stage.

[Jeff Lewis]

I think we've done a good job at creating organized chaos.

[Liz Roman]

Yeah.

[Michael Beck]

Yeah. I mean, some structure. It's a mess.

[Jeff Lewis]

The mics have to be on, the lights have to be on. And then. And then the rest happens. Happens.

[Liz Roman]

And we run on time. I mean, we run.

[Michael Beck]

You do run a tight shift.

[Jeff Lewis]

I was going to bring that up. It's very important to me. Also, it's a weeknight, not just for me, but for also the attendees. We got to be out by a certain time. Everybody. You know, most chumps work. Not all of them, but most of them work. And we got to get home at a decent hour. So that's why I got to keep it up.

[Liz Roman]

We accomplish that. We do.

[Jeff Lewis]

I was thinking about you, Liz, on the. How. How was your trip to Phoenix? Because we did send you with a tub, with a smoke machine, the light machine, the fog juice, and then. And then thousands of dollars in Wen products and hundreds of pounds of Wen products.

[Liz Roman]

I mean, the keen and you. I don't know what the plan was, but when it got dropped off the day before by like an Uber driver, I was like this.

[Jeff Lewis]

Sorry.

[Liz Roman]

A little.

[Jeff Lewis]

A little person just walked by.

[Michael Beck]

We were just, oh, my God.

[Liz Roman]

Michael, control yourself.

[Jeff Lewis]

Michael, don't do that. Because it distracts me.

Michael, put your sunglasses back.

[Michael Beck]

I'M sorry. I was distracted.

[Jeff Lewis]

I'm sorry.

[Jameson Scala]

We also have speakers in the hallway so people can hear you. She's like, be on your best behavior, please.

[Michael Beck]

You should have told us that a long time ago.

[Jeff Lewis]

Why did you not tell us that, James?

[Jameson Scala]

Because now you know. Now you've learned. I'm training my environment.

[Michael Beck]

Do you set the stage that this studio has windows and people are walking by? It's a walkway inside the wind. So that's why we're seeing we're in a fishbowl. I had people.

[Jeff Lewis]

I had no idea there were speakers out there.

[Michael Beck]

I didn't either.

[Jeff Lewis]

Never. And we've been. We've. This is our third time here.

The wind system.

[Michael Beck]

And there's children walking by.

[Liz Roman]

Oh. Oh. And I cursed. Oh, gosh. Okay, now we gotta. We gotta watch this.

[Jeff Lewis]

You gotta clean up your language.

Sally's in a rush.

It's a family show.

[Liz Roman]

We're just watching people walk by.

[Jeff Lewis]

So what was your question?

[Liz Roman]

Okay, the luggage situation.

[Michael Beck]

Yeah.

[Liz Roman]

So it gets dropped off at my house. And one of them literally weighs because it's all the wind product. And remember what I said, Chaz Dean, he's the sweetest, most generous guy. I go, you know, first of all, the bag's gonna be checked. He's gonna do full size product and it's gonna weigh a hundred pounds. It literally did. So my husband goes, well, what are you gonna do? I go, well, I'll just valet the car. Burbank, and I'll get one of those little trolleys. How hard can it be? I mean, I pull up, the guy's like, three bags. He looks at me because Burbank usually is short trips. I'm like, okay, don't judge me. And I get a trolley and like wrangling to get these three things on there. I get to check in at. I think I was just doing Southwest. And she weighs the first one and it's like 115 pounds. And she goes, you're gonna. You. This is. You've got to sort this out. I go, okay, wait, the next one. The Next one's like 60, because that's the smoke machine. And I wasn't really even gonna check my bag. And I checked my bag. My bag's 30. So now I've got three bags open. You know, I look like a luggage bomb had gone off. I look like a mess.

[Jeff Lewis]

I mean, also, it's a. The smoke machine looks like so suspicious equipment.

[Liz Roman]

I literally have, like, very odd looking electronic things in a bag. But I mean, they're looking at Me

[Michael Beck]

like, okay, but how do you get stuck doing this? Because you are a professional woman, you have a serious career and a serious job. How are you becoming Everyone's a.

[Jeff Lewis]

Because she had a 10am flight. The idea was she's ahead, she's checking the bag, she's unloading to bring the things to the house. We roll in at 3:30. We're. We're going, going, going straight to the venue. So we were not supposed to check bags. The idea was she has everything prepared and ready to go.

[Liz Roman]

But shame.

[Michael Beck]

But by yourself, people could have shipped their smoke machine.

[Liz Roman]

No.

[Michael Beck]

Or their product.

[Liz Roman]

The production van drove there, right?

[Jeff Lewis]

We didn't think about that.

I know. We didn't think about that.

[Liz Roman]

When they were like on the way home. And I'm thinking, I am not taking whatever is left home. And production goes, oh, no, we can take it. We were here the day early. We could have taken it to Vegas, to Phoenix. I go, oh my real.

[Jeff Lewis]

This show was real. We didn't have Lord the scenes. Yeah.

[Michael Beck]

Production doesn't exist.

[Liz Roman]

No. So then I arrive in Phoenix and I'm having to cart it out in 100 degree weather into a small Uber. I mean it was just. And then that gravel walkway and that Airbnb. Exactly. That Airbnb you rented. Now I felt like a real housewife because I got there first and I looked around and was like, you could tell. The primary suite. So I'm like, obviously, that is Jeff and Jameson's love suite. I will leave it alone. I'm not gonna go in there. But then everything else, I was like, well, do. I knew Doug needed an en suite. Like he needed a bathro. Then there was. I was going to be sharing the bedroom with Le Kendra, right? So I was like, we're the only. Shut up, kid. I go, we're the only ladies. Like, we should have a bathroom. But then I thought, oh, Patrick and Pull, they're kind of high maintenance. And the dog, maybe they need a bathroom. So I literally texted Shanko, listen, I'm gonna get ready and I'm not gonna touch any of the bedrooms. I'll just leave my luggage outside. Because I do feel like if I claimed a bedroom, like, it might be drama later, right? And then we basically got the bedroom, Lakendra and I. That was the converted garage. It had no bathroom.

[Jeff Lewis]

Had a bathroom right outside the door and. But actually, I think it did work out because then you had the TV room that likendra.

[Michael Beck]

But why?

[Jeff Lewis]

We had a screening room.

Well, why was she going back and forth? Why didn't she just go to bed with you?

[Liz Roman]

I kept saying, lakendra, the bed is big enough. I grew up with eight kids in my family. I've shared bedrooms and beds and all that. So I was like, no, it's totally fine.

[Jeff Lewis]

You weren't fine when we told you, though, in the conference room that day.

[Liz Roman]

I mean, I am also used to, like, at the end of an event, like, you know, unwinding in a hotel room. It's like, no, we're gonna go back. And there's been cameras up and all this and that. I was like, God, love chump, you know, little slippers that Doug had for us. So it was all fun, but it was a different vibe. So I was like, oh, I gotta wrap my mind around this.

[Michael Beck]

I imagine if you're away from your husband, you want to, like, have your own room in your own.

[Liz Roman]

Oh, my God. A night off from the snoring. Yes. A hotel room.

[Jeff Lewis]

What happened with. So Snow White 90210 had an accident in the green room on the sofa. Did we. Did they say anything? I mean, are they going to require deposits in the future?

[Liz Roman]

Deposits, maybe. No animals allowed.

[Michael Beck]

Well, there were animals allowed at that house.

[Liz Roman]

No.

[Jeff Lewis]

And we didn't have an animal at the house.

[Liz Roman]

Yeah, no, we did not.

[Jeff Lewis]

We had a rat. A little pet rat.

[Michael Beck]

I'm not.

[Liz Roman]

God love it. It's barely alive.

[Michael Beck]

I'm already in trouble with them.

[Jeff Lewis]

No, it's so funny, because I can say whatever I want.

[Michael Beck]

I know.

[Jeff Lewis]

And then if you say one thing about Patrick and Paul, what happens?

[Michael Beck]

Oh, I'm. I'm.

[Jeff Lewis]

Why don't you read the last text?

[Michael Beck]

The last text said in all capitals, I have no words. And then it was a sad face.

[Jeff Lewis]

What have you done, Em?

[Michael Beck]

Well, just because I don't.

[Jeff Lewis]

He piles on.

[Michael Beck]

No, I just don't believe the car accident story or the attack story, so I think because I put that into question, they're mad at me, but I love them.

[Jeff Lewis]

Lock the door.

[Michael Beck]

Lock the door.

[Liz Roman]

Close the thing.

[Michael Beck]

Please, please. I can't.

[Liz Roman]

Is this. You made a dance mix? Oh, my God.

[Michael Beck]

Oh, yeah, it's. It's the gay dance album of the summer, actually.

[Liz Roman]

It's really good.

[Jeff Lewis]

It's a summer hit.

[Michael Beck]

Yeah, it's a bop.

[Liz Roman]

Close the door. Close the door. Lock the door. Actually, that is brilliant.

[Jeff Lewis]

We actually. Kian and Jameson have been working on a new promo, which is pretty fantastic. When will that be ready, Kian? Early next week. So I'll let you guys know because you don't want to miss it. It's real good.

Todd's gonna love it on Friday. We should play for him.

What about Todd's endless questions and requests?

[Liz Roman]

Nothing was worse than chump con with Todd last year. I mean, the. I mean, he wanted the little people. And then he.

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh, there's one right outside.

[Michael Beck]

But then get your number.

[Liz Roman]

I got it. I gotta say, he had this. He wanted to. A disappearing cabinet. He wanted to do a magic trip trick. You have to understand, we do limit him to, like, eight minutes. He usually goes to 15. I'm doing the cut signal. Wrap it up. Because, listen, he's a great hype man. He really does get the runs.

[Jeff Lewis]

The light.

[Liz Roman]

Yes, he gets very excited, but yes, he goes over time, typically. So chump con last year, he goes, liz, I've decided I'm gonna do. I'm gonna come out of a disappearing cabinet. I'm like, what are you talking about? So working with the venue, it was so large, we could not. I don't even know how we were gonna get it there onto stage, off a stage.

[Jeff Lewis]

We're gonna have you check it at Burbank Airport.

[Liz Roman]

Carry on luggage. So they basically were like, well, he's gonna be on stage and then to get off stage. He likes a lot of components to his act. And I do think the greatest ad has been La Kendra because it's such added value. Bang for the buck. And it's not something that's like a prop. I does sing she. When she just laughs.

[Jeff Lewis]

He leans on his props.

[Michael Beck]

But I am bummed that you guys shut him down with the magic show, because I think that would be really fun. And I think that for the next Trump con, I would like to see him saw.

[Liz Roman]

Well, you know, I'm happy is not there anymore. The T shirt gun because he almost killed somebody.

[Michael Beck]

That was a liability.

[Jeff Lewis]

That was gonna be a lawsuit.

[Liz Roman]

Well, if some people don't know, the first time he shot it off, the whole first part of it came out and almost hit someone in the face.

[Jeff Lewis]

He hadn't assembled it properly, so it kind of came apart as he was shooting the. And then he almost, almost hit somebody in the head.

[Michael Beck]

That was a lawsuit waiting to happen.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah.

So then. Now we've got no more T shirt guns.

[Liz Roman]

No. And I. Now he just throws them, which is fine. And I. Like I said, he gets the audience all revved up.

[Jeff Lewis]

It's perfect now, I have to tell you. So we were here. We were doing some site visits for a potential, you know, another chump con. And so there was a guy that I had met 10 over 10 years ago through Todd, my brother. And, you know, we all know he's had dozens of businesses, and we still, even today, don't even know what he does for a living.

I'm unclear.

So this guy, and he's kind of slick, this guy. Dressed real nice. Jewelry.

Hair is bleached.

Yeah.

And very Susan powder, actually.

[Michael Beck]

Actually, it's like a guido Guy Fieri kind of mix.

[Jeff Lewis]

I met him because he wanted me over. It was a dozen years ago. He wanted me to endorse some sort of tanning salon. Change.

[Liz Roman]

That is very on brand here in Vegas.

[Jeff Lewis]

So they put me up in a beautiful hotel. They took great care of me. The deal didn't come together. So here we are. I see him. I haven't seen him in 12 years. And then, Michael, that was a good question. You said, you're like, how do you. First of all, how do you know Rick? And I said, well, I know Rick through my brother. And then you ask, well, how did you meet Todd? And he gave the strangest answer. He's like, well, we stuck together. And then you followed up. You said, well, what'd you guys do? What'd you do? What, did you work together? He said, you know, some. Some. What did he say? A few businesses, productions, film, videos, videos. And then he said, yeah, videos.

[Michael Beck]

Videos.

[Liz Roman]

What?

[Jeff Lewis]

Videos?

Videos.

What did those two do together?

[Liz Roman]

Yeah, I think so.

[Jeff Lewis]

I. I thought that too, but I didn't want to call him out or embarrass him in front of seven people.

[Liz Roman]

That is restrained of you. I am shocked.

[Michael Beck]

He actually looks like somebody who was a former porn star.

[Jeff Lewis]

So I'm not a porn producer.

[Michael Beck]

I think he might have been on camera. Talent.

[Liz Roman]

Oh, my God.

[Jeff Lewis]

That's one of us. Blur the lines.

[Liz Roman]

Investigate Michael. Find it out.

[Michael Beck]

Well, I'm gonna dig deep for some videos.

[Jeff Lewis]

It's just so sketchy.

[Liz Roman]

Well, I had. We were backstage at Chump Mess, and your brother asked me what was going on with Chump Con. I said, oh, we're just running into a lot of issues. I got the guy for you. I got the guy for you. You're gonna. I'm gonna hook you up with my friend Rick. Rick's gonna solve it. Rick styled in. In Vegas. Rick was so difficult to text with. He did never, never email back. And I gotta tell you, when you said Liz were going to Vegas, we're gonna be with Rick, I was shocked. I was like, how did this come together? Because I've been texting the guy. He doesn't really respond to me. I thought, oh, I'm the business person. So I thought, oh, all the questions were answered and that's why we're going. Right? It's gonna make sense. This venue's gonna work. Halfway through that walkthrough, I want to strangle you, Jeff. Because I was like, clearly we did not ask the right questions because right out of the get go, they did not have the right spaces.

[Jeff Lewis]

Can you please defend me?

Not we. The questions were asked, they were answered. We were lied to.

[Liz Roman]

Okay, thank you. Because I really was like, this place,

[Jeff Lewis]

don't say the name of it.

[Liz Roman]

No, I'm not.

[Jeff Lewis]

But we. But we. Yeah, so we did.

I went over. Liz, do you think I would just jump on a plane and come to Las Vegas?

[Liz Roman]

I was shocked.

[Jeff Lewis]

I was. There was calls, there was emails there. Yes, they can accommodate. Yes, they can do this.

[Liz Roman]

Hey, that makes sense.

[Jeff Lewis]

But what did I say? I said, this sounds a little too good to be true.

[Liz Roman]

You did say that.

[Jeff Lewis]

I said so. But we got to go check it out. Because what if it is indeed what he's presenting?

[Michael Beck]

The problem is we stayed at the win because this has set our standards really, really high. Sitting here, beautiful hotel, beautiful property. So any other place that we were going to go to was like, I

[Jeff Lewis]

don't care if it's not as nice. We've seen. Need a venue.

[Liz Roman]

Yeah, well, that would have been a Saturday night show. There really wasn't a space that was gonna work for us.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah. So. So to walk through it, we were going. We were at the property with the team, with the guy, with Todd's guy and the team of the hotel. We go to the first space. Oh, great. That could be fun for cocktail hour. We go to the next space.

But there were kind of roadblocks everywhere we went.

[Liz Roman]

Excuse me. Yeah, I agree. Because the first space, we're like, this will be awesome for karaoke. Shane's gonna host it.

[Jeff Lewis]

Can't do it here.

[Liz Roman]

Can't do it here. And you know what? The gall of them, we walked in that lobby. The Audacity.

[Michael Beck]

Well, we're never going back there again.

[Liz Roman]

No, because. And I gotta say, right from the get go, I was like, we're in trouble, girl. Because there was a four year old throwing a full on tantrum in what is kind of a small lobby. So you're kind of like, okay, all right. This is an interesting energy Vegas. Listen, kids, come here. It's fine. But you know, we're looking for more of like an adult vibe and venue. So this kid is screaming right in that same area there Is this bars where we'd have the karaoke? And they're like, well, we can't have loud noise coming out into the lobby. I'm like, what about the four year old throwing a tantrum? Our singers, we have Carney Wilson. We have Shane, who kills it. We have amazing singers.

[Michael Beck]

Right?

[Jeff Lewis]

Amazing voices.

[Liz Roman]

Jameson, you would think.

[Michael Beck]

Lock the door.

[Liz Roman]

Oh my God. Someone's got to judge Lake. You know, you were like, no, no. Your lobby would be blessed by this compared to what's going on here. So. All right, Jeff, I give you a pass because I really was like, what the world?

[Jeff Lewis]

So, okay, so we're doing the walkthrough. We see multiple spaces. Like, okay, this could work for this. Da, da, da. Or going the whole. Then after we see, you know, the first four spaces, we're like, okay, so what, you know, kind of theater. What kind of seat can we have for the live show? That'll be all attendees, that'll be all talent. We need our all hands on deck venue. And they looked at us, they're like, oh, live show.

You doing a live show?

[Liz Roman]

Oh, we didn't know about that.

[Jeff Lewis]

What makes that.

And we. And Liz, we did go through the schedule multiple times. Of course. We were assured that there were spaces for everything.

[Liz Roman]

Yeah. Cause he was emailed and texted all that as well.

[Jeff Lewis]

But the good news is there was. Which is. I guess how I'm trying to justify this in my head is that there was another option for a venue and we went to the second site visit.

[Liz Roman]

Yes.

[Jeff Lewis]

And I'm. I was, you know, it. That was also looking good on paper. But in person, I don't want to stay there. And if I don't want to stay there, I don't want Chump staying there.

[Liz Roman]

No, because we set the bar. Chump Con last year was so fun and fabulous. I mean, if you were not there,

[Jeff Lewis]

it was also nice.

[Liz Roman]

Yeah, you should have FOMO Resort world. We'll give them a little shot. It turned out great there, but for some reason they have a whole new team. Not gonna work this time. Fine. Okay. We still want to do something because we love having a longer versus a one night event. A longer experience for fans. So we are gonna have to pivot and figure something else out because we're just not finding that unicorn. Because why? What people don't understand. Oh, any. Any hotel in Vegas. No. What A lot of hotels. Cause I've literally talked to every single one here. They want to put us in conference rooms like we're a convention. So you would just go to conference room or ballroom. To ballroom. No personality, no vibe. We'd have to create vibe in every single space. That's not really what this is. So it just hasn't worked yet. But we're not giving up on it.

[Michael Beck]

Well, and the nail in the coffin at the first venue was you saying that the woman was prickly. So I think that we were not gonna be invited anyway.

[Jeff Lewis]

I don't think she was very nice. I frankly found her to be a bitch.

[Michael Beck]

And you told them. You had to let them know.

[Jeff Lewis]

I just said she was prickly.

[Michael Beck]

And then she'd been punched in the face.

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh, she had some sort of black eye. And all I said is

[Michael Beck]

it was a birthmark.

[Liz Roman]

Yes.

[Jeff Lewis]

I thought it was a black eye.

[Michael Beck]

No, it was a birthmark.

[Liz Roman]

Okay.

[Michael Beck]

And you said to the guy, well, she needs to get punched in her other eye.

[Liz Roman]

He's, like, trying to balance it out. We're like, no, she's Jeff, first of all. Because she very nicely say that.

[Jeff Lewis]

Exactly, Michael.

[Liz Roman]

Actually pretty close.

[Jameson Scala]

Just want to clarify. We are not promoting any kind of abuse.

[Michael Beck]

Not by us.

[Jameson Scala]

We would never do that.

[Liz Roman]

We wrap up. But some of the team stayed with us. So this should have been a conversation which is called offline. We could have let the rest of the team walk away, but Jeff was already sort of, you know, annoyed. You were annoyed.

[Michael Beck]

You were done.

[Liz Roman]

Well, because it was so clear.

[Jeff Lewis]

Well, they weren't very cooperative or accommodating.

[Liz Roman]

No. The other thing was like, we want to maybe have a pool party. And their pool, like, we were basically going to be put in the kids pool area.

[Jeff Lewis]

Literally.

[Liz Roman]

We were like, I open to children. Yeah, we're like, I. We're just telling you that's probably not the best combos or any other option. And like I said, sometimes when you deal with these large corporations, they're just not malleable. They don't want to bend the rules and make it work. So it just. Halfway through it, I was like, so why are we here?

[Jeff Lewis]

Can I clarify though, this for a second?

[Michael Beck]

Oh, no, yeah, absolutely.

[Jeff Lewis]

I thought I was a black eye. You're now telling me it was a birthmark? All I said, I don't condone violence. I just said, it just doesn't surprise me that someone hit her.

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[Michael Beck]

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[Jeff Lewis]

Now, when we left Burbank yesterday, we were all dressed appropriately for our site visit, meetings with the events and the planning teams of these hotels. Michael boarded the plane in what was short, short, short shorts. Like shorts that are probably a good. How many sizes too small?

I mean, there were those. Got to be 4 inches with a t shirt.

[Michael Beck]

Definitely more than 4 inches, but thank you.

[Jeff Lewis]

I'm just curious, what made you think that was an appropriate look for meeting with event team?

[Michael Beck]

Okay, so we're going to Vegas. It's hot. It's 90 something degrees yesterday. And I think that truthfully, my legs are my best asset right now, and they distract from the rest of my body. So I just figured, why not show off the gams, Maybe get us a sale, maybe get us a spot.

[Jeff Lewis]

So I said, no, you need to dress appropriately. What do you have in your bag? And so we had pulled up, I said, you're gonna have to change in the car. Because we had pulled up to the first hotel, and you informed me that you had no underwear on.

[Michael Beck]

Powder don't wear underwear.

[Liz Roman]

So what a revelation.

[Jeff Lewis]

So we got out of the car and closed the door so you would have privacy. And then we didn't communicate with the driver.

[Michael Beck]

We forgot.

[Jeff Lewis]

And he realized there was still someone in the car. So he walked around and he opened up the door, and we just saw Michael's ass.

[Liz Roman]

There's two cheeses.

[Michael Beck]

Oh, sorry faces. Preston.

[Jeff Lewis]

Sorry, kids.

[Michael Beck]

There's two children watching us.

[Liz Roman]

Good morning.

[Michael Beck]

Yes. The driver was trying to be kind and open the door for me to get out, but he didn't realize that I was changing into my pants with no panties on.

[Jeff Lewis]

Now, you have a history with Vegas. Your dad loves to gamble. He used to bring you and your sister here, and it sounds like you were left unattended all weekend.

[Michael Beck]

Sorry, dad. Yes, we used to stay at the Excalibur. And the Excalibur, it has an arcade on the lower level. So it's a huge arcade, the entire size of the casino underneath his arcade. So my dad did, back in the day, when I think it was a little more safe, he would give us a hundred dollars each and let us go to the arcade while he gambled for hours.

[Jeff Lewis]

How long would you be down there?

[Michael Beck]

Hours. Hours. Hours.

[Liz Roman]

I Mean, did cell phones exist? Were you able to get a hold of your father? Something was going wrong.

[Michael Beck]

I was like 8. We didn't have cell phones.

[Liz Roman]

Oh, man, that's crazy.

[Jeff Lewis]

That's a gambling addiction. Right?

[Michael Beck]

I think he was just trying to have a little fun, and he wanted us to have fun as well. So I think he was.

[Jeff Lewis]

So you would just be left unattended? I mean, I guess you could do that then, right?

[Liz Roman]

Yes. Yeah, you could. Now I think it's frowned upon. I mean, was your dad a single dad too?

[Michael Beck]

Yeah, he was.

[Liz Roman]

Yeah, that's.

[Michael Beck]

Yeah, he was just doing his best, trying to make money.

[Liz Roman]

He's like, come on, kids are going on vacation to Vegas.

[Jeff Lewis]

Can you explain? So you're. You're almost a 40 year old man and you're excited about going to Coachella, but there's been some hiccups with this.

[Michael Beck]

Yes. Okay, so I am going to Coachella this year and I've thought a lot about this because I'm going with friends that are my age or older, and I think we have aged out of Coachella. But Austin is a lot younger and he's never been to Coachella. So I thought, oh, for his birthday, I would get him passes to Coachella and I'd go with him for one last time. Now the problem is my pass fell through. I was supposed to get a free wristband for the weekend. It fell through. I've been desperately looking. This year, Coachella is completely sold out and the prices online are like $5,000 for a VIP wristband. So I randomly happened to find one wristband from a friend who can't come to Coachella, but she lives in Sydney, Australia, so the wristband is in Australia. So she calls me two days ago and she's like, I'm gonna overnight this wristband to you and I'm gonna get it to you. We look into everything. It wouldn't make it in time for me to go, so we just forget it. Another friend randomly calls me and she's like, I'm in Australia. I'm flying from Australia to LAX today. Today. So she lands at 2:30pm so wait a minute.

[Jeff Lewis]

So she got the.

[Michael Beck]

She got the wristband and so randomly she would. These people don't even know each other. She was five minutes away from the other girl. So I connected them. She went to her house, got this wristband. Now is on a flight currently to LA to bring this wristband.

[Jeff Lewis]

But how do you get up from LAX that.

Because we fly to Burbank.

[Michael Beck]

That's the Million dollar question.

[Jeff Lewis]

But Michael, his plan was to go straight from here to Palm Springs. He doesn't even have a ticket to la.

[Michael Beck]

What's crazy is that it's easier for me to get this wristband from Sydney to Los Angeles than it is to get this wristband from Los Angeles to Palm Springs.

[Jeff Lewis]

No, but for real, if you're a chump in going from LAX to Palm Springs today, can they. Can someone. Do you have a plan if.

[Michael Beck]

No, I don't. So if there's a chump listening that's going to happens to be flying or driving to Palm Springs after 3pm today, I.

[Jeff Lewis]

So how else would you get this wristband that's going to be. It's going to be arriving at 4pm today at LAX.

[Michael Beck]

So I was thinking about it this morning. I could, I could change my flight to fly to LAX from here, land at lax, wait for her to land, get that wristband, and then get on another flight from LAX to Palm Springs. Well, that just seems a lot of work.

[Jeff Lewis]

What about. Couldn't you just Uber it? Like could your friend with just put it in an Uber?

[Michael Beck]

Yes, but because it's Friday traffic, The Uber at 5 o' clock will be like thousand dollars. It's gonna be $5,000 and it's gonna get there at 10pm so there's no point. So I'm in a predicament.

[Jeff Lewis]

So what's the plan like right now?

Are you not going to Coachella?

[Michael Beck]

Well, the new plan is. So I talked to Austin this morning and he's actually. Poor guy, he's like stuck at work and he's working a ton. So he might have to like not come today, he might have to come tomorrow morning instead of. So if that's the case, he will meet up with a friend, get the wristband and bring it. So I have to check in with

[Jeff Lewis]

him after radio or she could Uber from la.

Did he really want this for his birthday or is this something that you wanted?

[Michael Beck]

You know, the further down the road we're getting, I'm realizing I don't think that he really wanted it. I wanted to show him like a fun experience, but I don't. He's so overwhelmed with work right now that I think this is like the least of his worries.

[Jeff Lewis]

That was when Stu got me tickets, wanted to get me tickets to Adele for my birthday. I said, I don't even care about. I mean now I actually went and loved it. But at the time I'm like, I don't even like Adele. But then I went and I loved Adele.

[Michael Beck]

I think he would have fun. I think he would have fun if he came, but I think it's just, you know, it's just weird timing because work is so overwhelming, and Coachella is

[Liz Roman]

for the young at heart. And you're. I mean, you do so much walking. You don't understand the dust. I mean, if you don't have those VIP wristbands or. Or artist pass, if you're over the age of 25, it ain't for you.

[Michael Beck]

And I'm realizing that maybe this is the universe telling me I'm too old

[Liz Roman]

for this, but you're still gonna go.

[Michael Beck]

I want to power through that.

[Liz Roman]

You know, I want to circle back.

[Jeff Lewis]

You need the universe to tell you because we've been telling you.

[Liz Roman]

Yeah, I want to circle back. You were not wearing underwear. I always think, like, you know, what if something happened on the plane? I mean, you are not wearing.

[Jeff Lewis]

I mean, or an accident and they had to cut off your jeans?

[Michael Beck]

Like, what would happen on the plane where me not wearing underwear would be a problem?

[Liz Roman]

I mean, I still.

[Jeff Lewis]

When you see people, what scenario are you concerned about?

[Liz Roman]

You know, when you see people walking through airport and they're wearing, like, high heels or flip flops, you're like, man, if something happens, you were just not prepared.

[Jeff Lewis]

Right. I just feel like a crash, is what you're saying.

[Liz Roman]

Trying to, you know, not.

[Jeff Lewis]

So you want. Later today, if your plane crashes, you want to be wearing underwear?

Of course.

[Michael Beck]

I think, like, shit my pants or. What do you mean?

[Liz Roman]

I mean, yeah.

[Michael Beck]

Why.

[Jeff Lewis]

Why would you. I understand needing, you know, shoes. Right? Sensible shoes to climb down the wing, but what. Why would we need underwear?

[Liz Roman]

Because what if they rip? What if something happens and you're just having to run naked for your life?

[Jeff Lewis]

Or what if you pee a little bit?

[Liz Roman]

Right.

[Jeff Lewis]

I wear underwear all the time.

Me too.

I can't relate.

Me too. I couldn't imagine not wearing underwear.

[Michael Beck]

It's hit or miss for me. Sometimes I wear them, sometimes I don't.

[Jeff Lewis]

Are you wearing them right now?

[Michael Beck]

Nope.

[Liz Roman]

Wow. With jeans. Okay. And you had those jeans on yesterday.

[Jameson Scala]

Michael.

[Liz Roman]

What about sanitary?

[Jameson Scala]

What about when you wear a suit? Do you wear. Cause that fabric is usually so thin. Do you wear underwear?

[Michael Beck]

The suit, if it's thin fabric, I usually wear underwear because you just don't want to give a free show.

[Liz Roman]

Loosey goosey.

[Michael Beck]

Yeah, okay.

[Jeff Lewis]

Like Rick.

[Michael Beck]

Like Rick. Rick was given the show yesterday.

[Liz Roman]

Very tight. His suit was one of those suits. His suit was tight. So, like, the leg was, like, kind of up high. I Don't know, like that's just a look.

[Jeff Lewis]

So now we're getting all these calls, like, you know, come to New York, come to Nashville, come to Dallas, come. So I think it doesn't look like a Chump con is going to be happening this year, but we are going to probably do the Chump Miss event at the Brea Improv. Correct, Liz? In December.

[Liz Roman]

Yeah, we'll do that again. And you know, I pushed you to go to the east coast but you always, you know, it's sort of like you're awesome because you bring all these chumps. And so the cost, it's not like a normal stand up comic or a solo performer where the overhead is low. I mean, Jeff spends a lot of money to produce these shows and I think people maybe don't understand that. So by the time you travel to New York and take a whole team with you, it's like, you know, you have fortune, you gotta balance it out.

[Michael Beck]

Don't count it out though, because I

[Liz Roman]

think I want to do it.

[Michael Beck]

There are some east coast chums that would be great. There's some other chumps that are on the east coast often.

[Jeff Lewis]

We've looked at it and I have seen numbers have.

[Liz Roman]

I mean there are also chumps within our world that would just be in New York too if you wanted them there so it would work out.

[Jeff Lewis]

I think what's realistic is that we do. We possibly do two Chumpmas shows in Brea like we did last year. I think between now and then we could do a couple close live shows. Right? Like San Francisco, San Diego. I think that's probably what's going to be realistic. Just to kind of manage everyone's expectations.

[Liz Roman]

Yeah, I think so.

[Jeff Lewis]

The other thing too that you need to announce, Shane, is I am getting so many DMs about the projector that I bought when James and I shared that wonderful, beautiful romantic night. Magical in. Magical in Phoenix.

[Liz Roman]

That was not what I envisioned when I saw Jameson's post about it. I envisioned something a little more, you know, celestial.

[Jeff Lewis]

It was. I just don't. Did you do a video or did you do just a photo?

[Jameson Scala]

I did a post but Shane, if you want to send me the link, I'll put it on my Instagram people. I will.

[Jeff Lewis]

It's very low tech. That's the thing people don't get. I just googled projector, like nighttime projector. It's first and.

Yeah, but it's the same brand we

keep buying w. It's called One Fire. O n e f I r e. One word, one fire. Girls toy projector. And it's lit. It's $20 on Amazon.

[Liz Roman]

Yeah, I thought it looked a little, honestly, juvenile.

[Michael Beck]

It is.

[Jeff Lewis]

It's for children, it's for babies, it's for me.

For me.

[Michael Beck]

Of course.

[Liz Roman]

I thought it was going to be something a little more. It has astrological, you know, accurate.

[Jeff Lewis]

It rotates 360 degrees and then also you have different themes. So I can butterfly, I can do mermaid, I can do gifts princess.

I'm looking at the Amazon right now. It says for girls aged four to six.

[Liz Roman]

That's what it looks like. Yes.

[Michael Beck]

Sounds right.

[Jameson Scala]

I have to tell you.

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh, I'm sorry.

[Jameson Scala]

40 to 60, as I would kind of like turn over in the middle of the night, I'd open my eyes, I'd be like, this is actually very sweet.

[Jeff Lewis]

I love it.

[Jameson Scala]

It was sweet.

[Jeff Lewis]

I have an example machine.

[Jameson Scala]

I have an example of it in my recap at. Hey, Jameson Scala, you can take a look if you want to see what it looks like.

[Liz Roman]

That's where I saw that.

[Michael Beck]

Did you ever have to the bathroom with the open bathroom?

[Jameson Scala]

Yeah, but I begged Jeff not to come in and he didn't respected you and I appreciated that. Thank you.

[Jeff Lewis]

But I think honestly, if you want to sleep well at night, you do a sound machine, you do the projector and a Venus cbd.

Oh, that's the trifecta.

And you're gold. You're golden.

[Liz Roman]

I have been heavy on the Venus CBD lately because my husband, I don't know what has happened. The snoring is so out of control that if I don't knock my ass out. Oh, sorry. Beep down the hallway after the fact.

[Jeff Lewis]

Jeff, Fina. One word.

[Liz Roman]

Oh, my gosh. Like, I'm not trying. We're not doing a sales commercial right here. I'm just saying, like, the reality truly is like, unless I. And I don't want to like drink a bunch of Chardonnay, like I'm a 1970s housewife. Like, I really just am trying to.

[Jeff Lewis]

You also do that if you, if

[Michael Beck]

you have to sleep in a bed with your colleagues.

[Liz Roman]

It's more sensitive there. Now it's more on Sarah, not Chardonnay.

[Jeff Lewis]

Thanks for listening. If you want more of this, listen to Jeff Lewis live every weekday on SiriusXM as well as the Jeff Lewis channel, exclusively on the SiriusXM app.

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