Mercedes Javid & Jamie Kennedy: Tears & Apologies

Summary

Jeff Lewis Has Issues Episode Title: Mercedes Javid & Jamie Kennedy: Tears & Apologies
Release Date: April 30, 2025
Host: Jeff Lewis
Guests: Mercedes Javid, Jamie Kennedy, Kelly Dodd
Duration: Approximately 34 minutes

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Introduction

In this emotionally charged episode of Jeff Lewis Has Issues, host Jeff Lewis is joined by long-time collaborator Mercedes Javid and actor Jamie Kennedy. The episode delves deep into personal conflicts, misunderstandings, and the complexities of maintaining friendships amidst professional pressures.

Chump Con: Triumphs and Troubles

The conversation begins with Mercedes Javid sharing her enthusiastic experiences from the recent Chump Con event. She highlights the event's unique atmosphere and the strong connections formed among attendees.

Mercedes Javid [01:50]: "I just want to tell you, I want to say why Chump Con was so special. Okay, here's what it is. And I did a pod about it when I do the cons. They're amazing."

However, Mercedes also voices concerns about event management, particularly regarding security and crowd control.

Mercedes Javid [05:49]: "It was the most jammed I've been in a club in 20 years."

Jeff acknowledges these issues, admitting that more security was needed and discussing the challenges of managing large events.

Jeff Lewis [05:02]: "Mercedes, the one thing I will say with all of your complaints, the one thing you were right about, we needed more security."

Rising Tensions: Jamie Kennedy's Criticisms

The episode takes a tense turn as Jamie Kennedy expresses dissatisfaction with Jeff Lewis's approach and support. The conflict centers around comments Jamie made regarding plastic surgery, specifically the distinction between lower facelifts and neck lifts.

Jamie Kennedy [10:30]: "When I saw photos of Jamie, shaved all the way, done, down, cut back, I said to you, you may never, ever, ever, ever let your. You've been covering your face. You look 50 years younger."

Jeff responds defensively, clarifying that the comments were never meant to disparage but were based on his misunderstanding.

Jeff Lewis [11:35]: "But not everybody does. You know, when you... but not everybody does... we just... we weren't trying to drag you or anything."

Accountability and Apologies

As emotions escalate, Mercedes attempts to mediate the situation, emphasizing Jeff's supportive actions and urging reconciliation. Jamie, feeling misunderstood, expresses frustration over not being heard.

Jamie Kennedy [22:16]: "This intensity is like irrevocable. Once you go to this intense place, your feelings don't create space for me to have my feelings."

In an effort to mend fences, Kelly Dodd joins the conversation. She shares her own experience with the plastic surgery comment, supporting Jamie's perspective and further highlighting the need for genuine communication.

Kelly Dodd [29:26]: "I actually thought you were... I misspoke. I thought it was the same thing."

Jeff reiterates his apologies, acknowledging the hurt caused by the miscommunication.

Jeff Lewis [30:15]: "You don't need a facelift, Kelly. However, I understand where it'd be hurtful because you felt we were being shady and implying that you did a lot more work than what you said you did. And I get that, and that's why I'm apologizing."

Final Attempts at Resolution

Despite multiple apologies, underlying tensions remain. Jamie emphasizes the importance of mutual support and communication in friendships.

Jamie Kennedy [35:08]: "I want to acknowledge another thing that I do, and this is, like, totally on me. Like, all it took was for me to hear that. And then, like, I paint in the rest of it."

Jeff maintains his stance on feeling unsupported, leading to an unresolved conflict by the episode's end.

Jeff Lewis [36:43]: "When a friend is unsupportive and speaks negatively about another friend's event, that's very important to them. You can understand why that person maybe doesn't want to have dinner with them or sit down with them."

Conclusion

The episode concludes with unresolved tensions and a clear indication that while apologies were made, the path to reconciliation remains challenging. The episode serves as a raw exploration of personal dynamics, accountability, and the struggles of maintaining authenticity in relationships.

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Notable Quotes:

• Jamie Kennedy [10:30]: "I may never, ever let your... You look 50 years younger."

• Jeff Lewis [11:35]: "We weren't trying to drag you or anything."

• Mercedes Javid [22:33]: "Actions, not words."

• Jamie Kennedy [35:08]: "All it took was for me to hear that. And then, like, I paint in the rest of it."

• Jeff Lewis [36:43]: "You don't want to have dinner with them or sit down with them. That person probably just needs a break."

Key Takeaways:

• Communication Breakdown: Misunderstandings and lack of clear communication can severely impact personal and professional relationships.

• The Importance of Support: Mutual support is crucial in maintaining strong friendships, especially when both parties are invested in each other's success.

• Accountability: Owning one's mistakes and apologizing genuinely is essential, but it may not always lead to immediate resolution.

• Emotional Complexity: Emotions play a significant role in conflicts, making objective resolution challenging.

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This episode provides listeners with an unfiltered look into the personal struggles and conflicts of Jeff Lewis and his entourage, highlighting the real-life challenges of balancing personal relationships with professional commitments.

Transcript

[Jeff Lewis]

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[Jamie Kennedy]

So good.

[Jeff Lewis]

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[Jamie Kennedy]

No, I got it.

[Jeff Lewis]

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[Mercedes Javid]

Don't be silly.

[Jeff Lewis]

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[Mercedes Javid]

Shoot.

[Jeff Lewis]

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[Jamie Kennedy]

When you're Jeff Lewis, the drama never stops.

[Jeff Lewis]

I don't need therapy. I don't need a prayer service. I need the fucking facts. Get to the point. She. I know. She's like, I don't want this toxic man near me.

[Jamie Kennedy]

See?

[Mercedes Javid]

You're a nice person.

[Jeff Lewis]

Don't tell anyone.

[Mercedes Javid]

Well, nobody thinks it, so it doesn't matter.

[Jamie Kennedy]

Jeff Lewis has issues.

[Jeff Lewis]

Hey, it's Jeff Lewis and I have issues. In today's episode, Mercedes Javit and Jamie Kennedy join the show. Things get tense when I discuss Mercedes latest comments about Chump Con. And Jamie gets emotional. Good morning.

[Mercedes Javid]

Oh, boy.

[Jeff Lewis]

What?

[Mercedes Javid]

We have a show for you today.

[Jamie Kennedy]

Well, I mean, you.

[Mercedes Javid]

I have so much to say.

[Jeff Lewis]

Get closer to the mic.

[Mercedes Javid]

But I will decide what we should start with.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay, first of all, we should be.

[Mercedes Javid]

Here for two hours today. We have a lot to cover.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay, well, let's keep going because we only have an hour.

[Jamie Kennedy]

Okay.

[Mercedes Javid]

I just want to tell you, I want to say why Chump Con was so special. Okay, here's what it is. And I did a pod about it when I do the cons. They're amazing. People come to the zoo and they look at the animals and they feed them a peanut Chump Con. They jump in the cage. And that's what it is.

[Jeff Lewis]

And the cage door was open.

[Mercedes Javid]

100. Well, 100%. And they Jurassic Park. Yes. And they don't leave. And they don't want to leave. I had such a good time, bro.

[Jamie Kennedy]

It looked like everybody bonded on another level.

[Mercedes Javid]

And can I say this? I have so much to say, but I don't want to be. I'm going to say this. I understand why I almost didn't go. And you curated it perfectly.

[Jamie Kennedy]

What do you mean you understand why you almost didn't Go.

[Mercedes Javid]

Because Mercedes, the vibe was the tribe. It was so everyone vibed perfectly together. And inviting me with my. With my stuff, whatever I am that could have thrown off the vibe.

[Jeff Lewis]

Well, here's the thing. I get it, Jamie. I haven't been to a lot.

[Mercedes Javid]

I'm a wild card.

[Jeff Lewis]

I haven't. Well, true. And I haven't been to a lot of chump events with you, so I wasn't sure how. You know, some people get shy, some people get overwhelmed. Some people, you know, it's. You know, you're. You're dealing with a lot. It's a lot of conversations, a lot of people, and. And you did so well. You're so warm. You're so friendly. I got so many really nice comments about you, specifically Jamie.

[Mercedes Javid]

Really?

[Jeff Lewis]

Yes.

[Mercedes Javid]

It was so sweet. I have to say this because Jeff doesn't know what I'm gonna do. Like, you know.

[Jeff Lewis]

No, I don't.

[Mercedes Javid]

He can't.

[Jeff Lewis]

No one does.

[Mercedes Javid]

He can't control me. But you know how much I respect you. And it was this. Let me just say this. It was just. There wasn't. I hate to say this, mj. It wasn't any work. It was. How much work is it to go in and people telling you how much they love you and want to have a shot with you and then hug you and take a picture? We went from thing to thing to thing to thing. I was tired. Yeah, but I was tired of getting love. And I only got one bitchy moment at the end. End of the weekend, after the crazy after party, we're all in the sardine can. I need one second. And the chump came over. Ventura chump. Shout out. And she's like, hi, honey. And I'm like, I really need a moment. And she's like, I'll just be quiet. Can I just sit next to you? And I said, okay. That's so sweet. She was so sweet. And then I felt bad, and I said, how are you?

[Jeff Lewis]

I know what sardine can you're talking about. It was the deck that was bouncing.

[Mercedes Javid]

Well, dude, it was our thing. And then I sat in front because Alyssa and Shannon fan social, and they were chilling up there. And I'm like, I'll let those girls. And then you went up with Ty. I take two pictures. The next thing I know, the thing's jammed. Your dad's in there, everyone's crimp. And I'm like, oh, they'll get security. It wasn't just.

[Jeff Lewis]

No security.

[Mercedes Javid]

No, it wasn't just chumps. It was the whole club. The whole club.

[Jeff Lewis]

Mercedes, the one thing I will say with all of your complaints, the one things you were right about, we needed more security. But it wasn't so much like. What I noticed is that, you know, when you paid for certain events you can't go to event you didn't pay for. But a lot of people snuck in and all of that. And there also should have been. There's certain capacity. Like on that bouncing deck you're talking.

[Jamie Kennedy]

About, the one that Doug was saying that was his only moment that weekend was during that deck.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah, that deck was a little scary because it got very, very crowded. And then it started bouncing and there's. There was nobody saying, hey, rack capacity. You can't go on that deck.

[Mercedes Javid]

I didn't see the velvet rop. I didn't feel uncomfortable in the deck. I just literally, I. I couldn't move. I have a video. Like, it was the most jammed I've been in a club in 20 years. Which.

[Jamie Kennedy]

But that was awesome. Security thing was suggestion of the. Of the chumps that called in the week of Doug's birthday and your birthday.

[Mercedes Javid]

Thank you.

[Jamie Kennedy]

They called in and said, you. You guys got to get beef up the security for this event. Sounds like you're going to need it.

[Mercedes Javid]

Okay. Yeah, just too. Is that what changed this weekend is I got emo, dude. I was driving home. I wish I did this show Monday. I'm so connected. I listen to every show this week. Okay. I'm so connected with you guys. I have my own connection with each one of you. And all the chumps, I feel so comfortable with them. That's what this was. This was a new connection that naturally happened. I had talks with Monica, I talked with Doug.

[Jeff Lewis]

But Jamie, you have to admit, like, when we curate this kind of. You have to be a people person. You have to have. You have to have energy. You have to be also you have to. I'm interested in people, right? So Especially chumps, because those people, they paid a lot of money. I'm like, what the fuck do you do for a living? Like, I want to know how did you make your money? Where are you from? Like, I'm actually have a natural curiosity.

[Mercedes Javid]

Oh, for sure. I listen.

[Jeff Lewis]

But not everybody does. You know, when you.

[Mercedes Javid]

You curated the. The best group. And I'm not saying you would have been amazing there too. I'm not saying. But I'm saying that. No, but you did because of the energy of what it was. We all had moments. We all went off together and I. I was driving home and I go, okay, I understand why I'm 19. Because I was a wild card. Cause you don't know if I'm going to come in with ego or.

[Jeff Lewis]

I didn't know. No.

[Mercedes Javid]

And I have to tell you, I.

[Jeff Lewis]

Think you were 18, by the way, weren't you?

[Mercedes Javid]

Thank you.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yes.

[Mercedes Javid]

Sarah was 19. I want to say this. This is the compliment to all everybody. Chump land is its own thing. Everyone has their own value system. Hell, Monica did. I think four fan socials. She was busier than most of us. So you don't know what everyone's appeal is. I love everyone. They all have. You have. I was telling it. Movie actors, comedians, influencers, reality stars, Digital entrepreneurs. Yes.

[Jamie Kennedy]

DMs, movie actors, you.

[Mercedes Javid]

Me. Yeah.

[Jamie Kennedy]

Yeah.

[Mercedes Javid]

Shots fired. So. And I just feel you created this beautiful world. And I just. I can't thank you enough. And I love you. And, like, do you think me and Jameson have anything in common?

[Jeff Lewis]

Jamie squared? Yes.

[Mercedes Javid]

Okay. We had some very nice chat. Exactly. I have nothing in common with him.

[Jeff Lewis]

Well, no, because he doesn't refer to it as chats.

[Mercedes Javid]

And guess what? I love him. Love you, too. I will.

[Jeff Lewis]

I know. He rubs off on you, doesn't he?

[Mercedes Javid]

I will punch someone through a wall for him. I will strangle someone for him. I love this man.

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh, I wouldn't make a phone call.

[Mercedes Javid]

On his behalf, but that's how I feel about all the chumps. And the karaoke party. Last thing. All these Karen saying, it was so tight. That's what made it amazing.

[Jeff Lewis]

I know, but we need a bigger.

[Mercedes Javid]

No, it was.

[Jeff Lewis]

We need a bigger venue. No, I was freaking out.

[Mercedes Javid]

We were sweating on each other. Yeah, we were. And then Shane pulled the ending out perfectly. One of the greatest nights was. I've broken. I bonded with Brogan. Brogan was sitting there. He's the sweetest guy. He's clapping.

[Jeff Lewis]

I know. He was cheering Shane on.

[Mercedes Javid]

He was cheering all this on. And then Patrick and Paul go. And it was like raining Men, verse one.

[Jeff Lewis]

How bad was that?

[Mercedes Javid]

Raining man, verse two. Raining Men, verse three. And then there was a fourth verse.

[Jeff Lewis]

And I, Brogan, Chook, grabbed the mic.

[Mercedes Javid]

Brogan grabbed the mic and he goes. He goes, enough.

[Jamie Kennedy]

That's it.

[Mercedes Javid]

He was so pissy.

[Jeff Lewis]

Well, they would have kept going.

[Mercedes Javid]

I know. And I turn and I go, brogan. He goes. He goes. No, I didn't know there was four verses. I was crying. I love them. I was like, I love this music.

[Jeff Lewis]

They literally were clearing out the casino with Raining Men. People were leaving the casino and the hotel.

[Mercedes Javid]

You know what Paul pulled me aside. Paul Small?

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah. Paul Small.

[Mercedes Javid]

Paul Small. Paul Small.

[Jeff Lewis]

I love him.

[Mercedes Javid]

I love him so much. He pulled me aside and he said. He says you're not the worst dress, but I had to pick you because you. Oh, can take it.

[Jamie Kennedy]

Oh, that's cute.

[Mercedes Javid]

He was so sweet about it.

[Jeff Lewis]

But, Jamie, you went to the mall. You spent 149.

[Mercedes Javid]

Yes.

[Jeff Lewis]

And you kept the tags on the. On the clothes. Were you planning on taking those back?

[Mercedes Javid]

A few things. Because Psycho said we were sweating on each other.

[Jeff Lewis]

You can't. That's disgusting. You can't take it back.

[Mercedes Javid]

No, but. Bwr. Alyssa, Tommy.

[Jeff Lewis]

Buy Where?

[Mercedes Javid]

Return.

[Jamie Kennedy]

Wait a minute.

[Mercedes Javid]

You can do that?

[Jeff Lewis]

No, you can't.

[Mercedes Javid]

Yeah, you can't.

[Jamie Kennedy]

Wait, wait. Who said buy, wear, return?

[Mercedes Javid]

Alyssa. She does it all the time.

[Jamie Kennedy]

Okay, wait.

[Jeff Lewis]

No, no, no.

[Jamie Kennedy]

You can't do it.

[Jeff Lewis]

It's 150 bucks.

[Mercedes Javid]

I know, but I got so many good deals.

[Jamie Kennedy]

When I saw photos of Jamie, shaved all the way, done, down, cut back, I said to you, you may never, ever, ever, ever let your. You've been covering your face. You look 50 years younger. You look so tan.

[Jeff Lewis]

I know.

[Jamie Kennedy]

It's ridiculous.

[Jeff Lewis]

You went from 90 to 40 and it's stuck in.

[Jamie Kennedy]

I can never, ever see you allow yourself to grow in any of this. And since that weekend, you've allowed it to already grow. So you cannot do it. Well, nothing. You gotta be clean, cut.

[Mercedes Javid]

Thank you. And I love you for that. I have to tell you, they make you. They make you bring your game.

[Jamie Kennedy]

You've hidden so much of your youth underneath that.

[Mercedes Javid]

Because we were in a pandemic. The world was crazy.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah. Three years ago. Four years ago.

[Mercedes Javid]

And I was questioning everything. The whole. I was questioning my existence. Okay. But I. This weekend, everyone was so fashionable and so good looking. I'm like, I gotta, you know, be part of that. So. Yes. Thank you.

[Jamie Kennedy]

Monica Casey's dress was fire.

[Mercedes Javid]

Monica really turned out.

[Jeff Lewis]

She looked great.

[Mercedes Javid]

Yeah, we had that.

[Jeff Lewis]

Did you call Kelly Don and work shit out.

[Jamie Kennedy]

Yes.

[Jeff Lewis]

You talked to her?

[Jamie Kennedy]

Yes.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay. Because I want to apologize because I was with Kelly. I. I thought neck lifts were lower facelifts. Also, I was 100% convinced that a neck lift is a lower facelift. So is. So was Kelly. But then I read after the fact that there is a distinction between a lower facelift and a necklace. So I'm sorry. Cause I did. I did. I was part of that.

[Jamie Kennedy]

And what happened was that I might.

[Jeff Lewis]

Have started that, actually.

[Jamie Kennedy]

Yeah. So this is what happened. So when I heard that I Was like, the way that they were talking about me is not the way that people that like you or care about you talk about you. So that is what I said.

[Jeff Lewis]

We just. Honestly, it wasn't that big of a deal. Like, we were joking around like, it wasn't a neck lift. It was a facelift. It's a lower facelift. And I was like, I know it's a lower facelift, but it wasn't like, we weren't trying to drag you or anything. Everyone's so open about their procedures. It's not that we're not. No one's hiding anything.

[Jamie Kennedy]

That's what I said. Because I'm here with my bandages, and I am like, I. Like, literally, I can show you my. I'm gonna do it right now.

[Jeff Lewis]

No, no, no. We don't need to see it. We don't need to see it.

[Jamie Kennedy]

I'm gonna show you what I'm talking about.

[Jeff Lewis]

No, but said. I apologize. I believe you. I was wrong.

[Jamie Kennedy]

I accept your apology now. But now we're gonna see stitches.

[Jeff Lewis]

I don't need to see stitches.

[Mercedes Javid]

Well, she's gonna show stitches.

[Jeff Lewis]

I already said. But I already said. I already believe her.

[Mercedes Javid]

He apologized.

[Jamie Kennedy]

I'm not.

[Jeff Lewis]

I just apologize.

[Jamie Kennedy]

I accept your apology today. Because that way that it was said to me made me feel like, okay, that is not. Like I said, that is not the way that people who care about you talk about you. So if I am so. Because I am so transparent about the work that I got done. And when I like. You know how you say, like, the receipts. The receipts are your incisions.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay, but I think you're missing the point here. First of all, what would be disparaging is if we had said it's really bad work. She had it done in Mexico. Blah, blah, blah. No one ever said anything. We said it was great work. We said, you look great. We just said it was a lower fate. We were wrong. We were wrong because we were confused about what was done. But no one said anything disparaging.

[Jamie Kennedy]

So now I just. I'm.

[Jeff Lewis]

So we're not going to spend an hour.

[Jamie Kennedy]

Like, we don't need to just think. Wait, you guys, this. That was on Friday. Today.

[Jeff Lewis]

But what we are going to do is, if you want to talk about. Why are you letting hoarders.

[Jamie Kennedy]

Why aren't you letting me answer you, though?

[Jeff Lewis]

You answered it. Because you'll go on and on and on. We already. I already said. I already said I was wrong. I apologize. Let's move on. Let's move on.

[Jamie Kennedy]

We have Other made it good with Kelly.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yes.

[Jamie Kennedy]

And when Kelly reached out, she said, you know, stuff about not wanting to be in a bad place with me, and I said, I will listen to it, and if it still makes me feel, you know, differently, I'll let you know. And she said, that's fair. And that is what I thought.

[Jeff Lewis]

Did she apologize?

[Jamie Kennedy]

Yeah, profusely.

[Jeff Lewis]

And I apologized.

[Jamie Kennedy]

She apologized, and I accepted both times. So all I'm saying is that when something happens, the amount of time that you. That you like, it's. It was a week later. That's all I'm saying is, like, when I heard it, I thought to myself, if I was going to misrepresent, like, some. Someone said, someone close to me said, you got three procedures. Jamie said, you got three procedures. And I was like, oh, he's counting the left tit, the right tit, and the neck. And it was like, just clarification.

[Jeff Lewis]

Great. You want to talk about disparaging, do we have the audio from MJ's podcast?

[Jamie Kennedy]

Not heard is what the overall general consensus is. Would you, if given the option, would.

[Jeff Lewis]

You have rather have went.

[Jamie Kennedy]

Have gone to Chompathon or Coachella? Oh, Coachella for sure. Listen, Chumcon wasn't for me. I could see on the Crystal's IG stories that they were, like, dancing at the pool. It's just. I can tell. For me.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah.

[Jamie Kennedy]

And I said, I have no business being it either, at the end of that sentence. I have no business being it either, because I am wearing a neck brace, a head pillow, and stitches. And that is. Exactly.

[Jeff Lewis]

But it's not for you. And that's. That's the message I got. It's not for you. And I understand that. I understand that, and I'm glad we know that, because in the future, when we do more chomp cons, I want to bring people that want to go that it is for them, and that's not for you.

[Jamie Kennedy]

And you're. You're apologizing to me, but you're also mad at me when I open my mouth to tell you how I feel about it.

[Jeff Lewis]

Because you're not supportive, and I have been incredibly supportive of you. Start with the real estate, which. There's a million real estate agents out there. I gave you a shot. I had no idea what kind of real estate agent you were, and I took a big fucking risk hiring you. And you know what? I'm glad I did, because you. You absolutely impressed me, and I think you're a fantastic realtor. I. I have been very supportive can you take it? I lobbied. Fine. I lobbied for you to get Liotte's podcast because I knew that you were the right fit for that, and I knew that it would be great money for you and your family. I've been incredibly supportive of you. But then when. What you have done behind my back and on your podcast is you have talked negatively about chump con. That doesn't seem supportive. So you can distract right now with the plastic surgery comments, but the fact is, is that you are the one that's not supportive.

[Jamie Kennedy]

I wasn't not supportive in the. In the comment of Tommy saying, would you see yourself at Chumcon or would you go to Coachella? And he's asking me.

[Mercedes Javid]

He's asking, can I say something?

[Jamie Kennedy]

It's not for me.

[Jeff Lewis]

And maybe other chump events are not for you. Maybe this radio show is not for you.

[Mercedes Javid]

I mean, come on.

[Jamie Kennedy]

It's just.

[Mercedes Javid]

Come on.

[Jamie Kennedy]

I don't know, dude.

[Mercedes Javid]

Like, why you think we had such a beautiful weekend? Jeff, I'm gonna get emotional, man. We had such a beautiful week.

[Jamie Kennedy]

Oh, my God.

[Jeff Lewis]

We did. I loved.

[Jamie Kennedy]

I really.

[Jeff Lewis]

We did. We had a great time. Look at me.

[Mercedes Javid]

Look at being like a. I loved it. Why? Why are we so angry? Mercedes, you heard him. But she doesn't mean it. Tell me. I didn't know you were this mad. I didn't know you were this mad.

[Jeff Lewis]

Again, I've been incredibly supportive of her and all of her ventures, and I don't feel like it's reciprocal.

[Mercedes Javid]

I know.

[Jeff Lewis]

I don't feel like it's reciprocal.

[Mercedes Javid]

Listen, she was just in there telling me how much she saw. It looked so good and so fun.

[Jeff Lewis]

I didn't hear that part of the podcast.

[Mercedes Javid]

She told me that.

[Jeff Lewis]

Do we have audio on that? Because I didn't hear that.

[Mercedes Javid]

I'm like Amanda over here.

[Jeff Lewis]

I didn't hear that part. Boy, the tables have turned.

[Mercedes Javid]

No, because I'm crying because I had such a good weekend. I was so excited to share it, and then. I didn't know you were this mad, but you have every right to be. I'm gonna say you something about Jeff. Why me and Jeff get along so well. And then you're gonna. You should talk. Jeff is all fucked. And on verba. This is what my mother said, God rest her soul. It's actions, not words. Latin. Jeff's love language is action. And his actions, Mercedes, this weekend were so giving. First class, private jet, private car, private suites, any food we wanted. And he really goes out of his way. And I think that if I can help mend this relationship, because I think sometimes he feels. You don't see that. And she loves you, dude.

[Jeff Lewis]

I know.

[Mercedes Javid]

She fucking loves you.

[Jeff Lewis]

I know. I know.

[Jamie Kennedy]

No, it's not like that. Because.

[Mercedes Javid]

And Reza. Reza had beautiful things to say this weekend.

[Jamie Kennedy]

Okay. I. I say when Reza. When people ask about Reza, I say, he is doing amazing. They'll be like, how's Reza? And I'm like, he is freaking doing amazing. And they feel that when they check on Reza through me and everything can't live inside of a vacuum. That I'm sitting with my husband at my podcast table, and he's asking me to weigh out, which one Coachella's music would I rather be watching? Whatever. Whatever band. Doesn't even matter which one, or would I rather be? When I saw Crystal dancing, I was like, that's not for me. I've never been able to be that girl. She knows Crystal well.

[Jeff Lewis]

Not everybody was dancing on the ledge of a Jacuzzi. Just so you know.

[Jamie Kennedy]

Right.

[Jeff Lewis]

We're all different people.

[Mercedes Javid]

And it was great.

[Jeff Lewis]

And she had a great time.

[Jamie Kennedy]

I know. I could tell that. I could tell that it was a really special weekend, and I could tell that it was really amazing, and I appreciate your tears. I could tell it was amazing. I could see that. And the part about the seeing myself dancing, I don't see. I've never been that person. But I also reached out. I felt. When On Friday, throughout the whole weekend and this week when I reached out to you. It's hard to reach out to a friend that is not responding to you so that you can even communicate anything. So therefore, I expressed it while I'm talking to someone who was listening, who was Tommy and the Dirtys. And at the end of that sentence, I said sentence not somewhere else in the podcast. I said, I have no business being anywhere this weekend because I'm in stitches. I can't turn my neck when I. I cannot dance. I can't even if I want to look at Shane, who's sitting two feet away from me. I have to be, like, turning.

[Jeff Lewis]

Then you know what?

[Jamie Kennedy]

That's it.

[Jeff Lewis]

Here's the thing. What you should have said as a supportive friend. It's not for me. But you know what? It looks like it was a great time and everyone had fun and all that. No, you didn't. You did not. And that's the problem. The problem I'm having is that it just feels very unsupportive. This is my business. This is. And I. I do feel like I. And listeners don't know this because I don't fucking come in here with a list of what I do for everyone. But I go out of my way. Like you have no idea how invested I am in UMJ and how much I want you to succeed. And I want you to get that Shaws reboot and I want you to become like a top producing real estate agent. Sometimes I don't feel like people for me, what I want for them. And that's why I get triggered and upset, but 100%.

[Jamie Kennedy]

But I also. When you decided not to have me at trumpcon, I did not ever question it. I just said nothing.

[Mercedes Javid]

Mj, let's be honest. Were you hurt? Be honest.

[Jamie Kennedy]

Yeah, I. Were you hurt him. And I told him that I was.

[Mercedes Javid]

Were you hurt?

[Jamie Kennedy]

Yes.

[Mercedes Javid]

I say I was hurt. Start there.

[Jamie Kennedy]

I was, but he gets mad when I tell him how I feel.

[Mercedes Javid]

No, but if you start with.

[Jeff Lewis]

You never take accountability, ever. That's why I get mad and that's what triggers me.

[Mercedes Javid]

You have to be vulnerable.

[Jamie Kennedy]

This intensity is like irrevocable. Once you go to this intense place, your feelings don't create space for me to have my feelings. And that doesn't mean that my feelings aren't valid.

[Mercedes Javid]

Okay, hold on.

[Jamie Kennedy]

Because on the night of of your birthday at Cook and Kibbutz, we were all having. Me and Annie and Monica were laughing at the person who said we needed security. I said the schedule was.

[Jeff Lewis]

I am going to lose my shit if you start this again. I am going to lose my shit because you're not telling the truth.

[Jamie Kennedy]

Yeah, I am.

[Jeff Lewis]

No, you're not. You were very negative about Chump Con, which is why I rescinded your invitation.

[Jamie Kennedy]

No.

[Jeff Lewis]

You can bullshit me all you want, but I heard you complain in this studio. You complained to multiple people. The reason you are not at Chump Con is a hundred percent on you. On you. You did it. I wanted you there. You were like number seven.

[Jamie Kennedy]

Okay, so here's what I have to tell you about this.

[Mercedes Javid]

That was her original number.

[Jeff Lewis]

She was at a high number.

[Jamie Kennedy]

Okay.

[Mercedes Javid]

Was I still in the teens?

[Jeff Lewis]

So the date, you were still in the teens.

[Jamie Kennedy]

That's terrible.

[Mercedes Javid]

Wait, listen.

[Jamie Kennedy]

That's terrible. No, no, no. Can I just say something?

[Jeff Lewis]

Because I thought she was more of a people person.

[Jamie Kennedy]

Wait a minute.

[Jeff Lewis]

So that's why she was number seven?

[Mercedes Javid]

She is.

[Jamie Kennedy]

Can I tell you.

[Jeff Lewis]

No, I know, but can I say one thing?

[Mercedes Javid]

Mj, before you say something, just hold it up. I know I'm gonna cut you off, but you gotta let. Listen, Jeff's Angry. It's okay.

[Jamie Kennedy]

No, but we have feelings.

[Mercedes Javid]

It's okay. And you're. Here's. What I want to say is. Can I just say this? It's really simple, guys. Anger is the top level to hurt. Yes, he's hurt. He's very fucking hurt. He put his fucking life. Blood tears him. Michael, Shane, they curated this thing. And mj, the event was beautiful. Women were so screaming, crying. Alyssa lifted up the purse and she.

[Jamie Kennedy]

Goes, I got it.

[Mercedes Javid]

They were like.

[Jamie Kennedy]

It was maybe the bottom of my comment, not for me was literally I was excluded and it wasn't for me. And maybe that is where.

[Jeff Lewis]

What did you expect when you complained? What did you expect? You don't agree.

[Jamie Kennedy]

I'm so, like, so not trying to get you mad at me after. I feel like I didn't. All I did once was you put.

[Jeff Lewis]

Your foot in your mouth over and over and over again. And you never learned.

[Jamie Kennedy]

Not in my opinion.

[Jeff Lewis]

Because I think, great, we can agree to disagree.

[Jamie Kennedy]

Okay, so what I'm telling you guys is that when that happened, when I tried to express whatever to you, you decide when the conversation is over. You decide what in your opinion?

[Jeff Lewis]

Because you go on and on and say the same points over and over and over again.

[Jamie Kennedy]

Jeff. That's why, Jeff, you also can have full reign to talk about whatever as long as you want to. And I have been, if you ask anybody at BravoCon, I have been the person that lingers until the very last person has taken a photo. I have significantly, like, significant, genuine conversations with people. And BravoCon is similar.

[Jeff Lewis]

Sounds like Bravicon is for you.

[Jamie Kennedy]

So I'm just saying that's great. I'm just saying my track record having fan interactions is genuine. See, like right now, I can tell that Shane is listening, but I know that you're not listening.

[Mercedes Javid]

It's obvious, Mercedes.

[Jamie Kennedy]

You just don't.

[Jeff Lewis]

Because I can. This is what I can do. I can take a look at myself and I can say, you know what? That plastic surgery comment, that was out of line. I was wrong. Kelly was wrong. I apologize. You cannot do that. You cannot do that. You gaslight. You make excuses. You turn it around and make it on me. I'm just telling you, I 100% heard you complain about Chump Con right here in this studio. When I was. And I was talking to Jameson, I was talking with Kian. I could hear you complain. So the fact that you now say you don't complain is a lie. I have to go to the bathroom. I'm taking a quick break. Spring is in the air. But you know what's not? Litter Box Stink. That's thanks to Pretty Litter, which obliterates odor so you can enjoy all the wonderful scents of spring. Pretty Litter's non clumping formula traps odor and moisture. Its ultra absorbent, lightweight, low dust and 16 pound bag works for up to a month and Pretty Litter gives you peace of mind. It changes color to indicate early signs of potential illnesses in your cat, like urinary tract infections, kidney issues and more. Plus, you can say goodbye to running out of kitty litter because Pretty Litter ships free right to your door. Pretty Litter helps keep your house smelling fresh and clean. Try it and you'll love it. Go to PrettyLitter.com jeff to save 20% on your first order and get a free cat toy. That's PrettyLitter.com jeff, to save 20% on your first Order and get a free cat toy. Pretty Litter.com terms and conditions apply. See site for details. This episode is brought to you by Huggies Snug n Dry unbelievably soft, irresistibly soft. Experience the unexpected softness and up to 100% leak protection. So snug, so dry. More parents choose the new Huggies Snug and dry softness versus the leading premium diaper Huggies. We got you baby.

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[Jeff Lewis]

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[Jamie Kennedy]

Hey babe.

[Kelly Dodd]

Hi guys. Hey guys. Hey. Listen, I didn't even know that was what you were upset about. The necklace I dated a very ugly plastic surgeon, and I would. I remember him telling me that it was the same thing. It is obviously the wrong thing because I asked my doctor, Nicole, about it, and he said, it's a totally different thing. I can admit when I'm wrong. I was wrong. I misspoke. I thought it was the same thing. And. And I honestly didn't even know that's what you were upset about.

[Jamie Kennedy]

I actually thought you were. I just want to say thank you because the way that you communicated with me over text was sincere, and I received it very sincerely, and I was keeping it 100 to say, like, when I listen to it, I'll hear it. And to be honest, once I listened to it, I was like, oh, Jeff was being really shady toward me. And then he just said he was sorry. So that was, you know, before Trump Con. I think I was carrying that, like, you guys are out, you're having a great time, but we weren't being rocked. But he said he wasn't okay, And I accept that. But I will tell you apology and sorry if it didn't, because Reza said.

[Kelly Dodd]

You are looking really good. I go, oh, my God, I can't wait to see MJ because I want a facelift. I'm turning 50 in September. I want a facelift.

[Jeff Lewis]

You don't need a facelift, Kelly. However, I understand where it'd be hurtful because you felt we were being shady and implying that you did a lot more work than what you said you did. And I get that, and that's why I'm apologizing.

[Jamie Kennedy]

I accept.

[Kelly Dodd]

Yeah, me too. I'm apologizing.

[Jeff Lewis]

So Kelly and I, we've been to apology school. Let me give you the name.

[Jamie Kennedy]

Yeah. Okay.

[Jeff Lewis]

And maybe we can get you enrolled.

[Jamie Kennedy]

Fine. So I apologize, Kelly, genuinely, because. Okay, go ahead, Jamie.

[Mercedes Javid]

You already said it. You apologize. Apologize. Kelly, did you have a great weekend?

[Jeff Lewis]

You're an apology school graduate.

[Kelly Dodd]

So much fun with you.

[Mercedes Javid]

I had such a big time. Me, you, and your husband. Like, that's another.

[Kelly Dodd]

I wish. I wish MJ would have went, you know, MJ and I are friends, like, off. But, like, it's not for her.

[Mercedes Javid]

Kelly, I'm over here crying like I'm on the heavy flow day.

[Jamie Kennedy]

Were you?

[Mercedes Javid]

No one got the joke. It's a period joke, folks.

[Jeff Lewis]

We got it.

[Jamie Kennedy]

I haven't had a shirt in a year.

[Kelly Dodd]

I don't know what you're talking about.

[Jeff Lewis]

A lot of estrogen in this room right now. Jamie, we gotta get you to my hormone doctor.

[Mercedes Javid]

Oh, I want to Say, oh, yeah, it makes the hair fall out.

[Jamie Kennedy]

Oh, I thought that was.

[Jeff Lewis]

No, it does. There's no hair.

[Mercedes Javid]

So listen, Kelly, it was such a great weekend. I thought we were going to recap, but obviously Jeff.

[Jeff Lewis]

Well, Kelly's on tomorrow Has.

[Mercedes Javid]

Okay.

[Jeff Lewis]

But I want to make sure that she and MJ are good.

[Jamie Kennedy]

Yeah, you guys are fine.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay, good.

[Kelly Dodd]

Yes, we're good. Show them the text. We're good.

[Jamie Kennedy]

Yeah.

[Kelly Dodd]

See, we're adults. This isn't like we communicate, you know? Yeah, we communicated. So I'm. I'm really. I'm really, really happy that, you know, I will.

[Jamie Kennedy]

I want to acknowledge another thing that I do, and this is, like, totally on me. Like, all it took was for me to hear that. And then, like, I paint in the rest of it. Like, I. I decide to color in. Like, oh, they must have been talking shit about me. And that is where the one liner was. So I can refrain from doing that, and I can take that as, like, a learning thing, so. But anyway, I appreciate your sincerity. I jet. You and I are great, and I appreciate everything.

[Kelly Dodd]

Okay, me too.

[Jeff Lewis]

Love you, Kelly. I'll see you later.

[Kelly Dodd]

Thanks for watching the beef. All right, I'll see you tonight.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay, bye. Line seven, Kristen in California.

[Mercedes Javid]

Before you take that, can I say one thing?

[Jamie Kennedy]

No, wait.

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh, let's say Kristen first. Can you remember? Do you want to write it down? I got it. Okay. Hi, Kristen.

[Kelly Dodd]

Hi. Hi, chumps.

[Jeff Lewis]

Shout out.

[Jamie Kennedy]

Shane.

[Jeff Lewis]

Shout out.

[Mercedes Javid]

Kristin.

[Jeff Lewis]

Hi, chump.

[Kelly Dodd]

So it sounds like everything is kind of good right now. So I don't want to, like.

[Jamie Kennedy]

No, I wouldn't say no. Say what you want to say.

[Kelly Dodd]

Okay, so my only question is this. Okay. It's for Jeff. Of course.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yes.

[Kelly Dodd]

Sorry, I'm nervous. So, Jeff, did you ever actually hear what MJ said to get her disinvited from her mouth?

[Jeff Lewis]

Yes, I did.

[Jamie Kennedy]

Okay.

[Kelly Dodd]

Because I did. All the stories that I heard, like, since this whole thing started, was that some. Everyone came and told. Told you, and that's what got her dis. Yeah, I just wanted to make sure.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yes.

[Kelly Dodd]

That you were following along with your own.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yes.

[Kelly Dodd]

It doesn't sound very supportive if you're just taking what people are saying is hearsay as fact. And then.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yes, Kristen, that's a very good point. Yes. I heard several people. Usually, where there's smoke, there's fire. However, what I have learned, unless I actually hear it with my own ears, you're absolutely right, and I did. But there's something here. There's a note here that said, if you ever talked to MJ directly. And this is the reason why I took your call, Kristen, because MJ and I were just talking at the break. We need to sit down, she and I alone, and, like, hash this out. And I'm not leaving until I get an apology, Kristen. So we might be there for a long time. It might be a weekend. MJ tried a lot or not a lot, but she sent you a real text. But you can see where Jeff was. It was not.

[Mercedes Javid]

It would not have been me.

[Jeff Lewis]

I'm not ready to. I wasn't ready to hear it.

[Jamie Kennedy]

It's hard for me, too. So I am sorry because when I want to talk to you, I want to be able to talk to you without being like, you're busy some. Your headspace is somewhere else. You're busy and you're not. And, like, I also don't want our relationship just to be like. Like the chump events that we used to have. We used to have, like, Memorial Day. We used to have more nights that we were all hanging out together. And like, now I think your schedule is busy. And I was talking to Liotte about this and I was like, you know, I just feel like we. I. I don't want to be a burden on a friend, but I do need to butt into my friend so that I can communicate with my friend and let them know, like, I. And I've said this to you.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yes.

[Jamie Kennedy]

Palm Springs. I was like, why don't we go and do, like, dinners? Why don't we do you know what I mean? Like, those are where we could have more than a one second exchange.

[Jeff Lewis]

But again, you have to take accountability. Because when a friend is unsupportive and speaks negatively about another friend's event, that's very important to them. You can understand why that person maybe doesn't want to have dinner with them or sit down with them. That person probably just needs a break.

[Jamie Kennedy]

I apologize because. I apologize because I have to learn that if I'm being, like, fast and loose, like, we're so sarcastic here and it's so fun and we're art. I think we are just such a safe, comfortable, sarcastic, snarky us, like, being together. So I am 100% sure that whatever I said was just me being, like, funny or not.

[Jeff Lewis]

But, like, well, we heard the audio earlier. I don't think it was being funny.

[Jamie Kennedy]

No, you're talking about the stuff I said in the studio here. You said that you heard me here complaining about the logistics.

[Jeff Lewis]

I don't think that was, like, a joke. I just think you were like questioning it. Wow, this is a lot of responsibility and it was yes and a lot of events and Bravo Con paid me more and blah, blah, blah.

[Jamie Kennedy]

No, I didn't. Maybe I did. Okay, sorry. I don't want to backpedal.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah, you did.

[Jamie Kennedy]

But I do want to acknowledge and be accountable for making sure that I am not disrespecting or hurting my friends or peers or like yucking anyone's yum.

[Jeff Lewis]

Well, you did.

[Jamie Kennedy]

So I am sorry for that.

[Jeff Lewis]

Thank you. And I accept your apology. Kristen, we're making real headway over here. That was important.

[Kelly Dodd]

Look at that.

[Jeff Lewis]

I mean, who knew that Kristen in California was going to facilitate a reconciliation?

[Mercedes Javid]

A mediator.

[Jeff Lewis]

Kristen, thanks for listening. If you want more of this, listen to Jeff Lewis Live every weekday on SiriusXM as well as the Jeff Lewis Channel exclusively on the SiriusXM app.