Ms. Pat & Zach Noe Towers (Encore)

Summary

Podcast Summary: Jeff Lewis Has Issues – Episode: Ms. Pat & Zach Noe Towers (Encore)
Host: Jeff Lewis
Release Date: January 1, 2025

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Introduction

In this encore episode of "Jeff Lewis Has Issues," hosted by Jeff Lewis on SiriusXM, the focus is on the candid and unfiltered life of comedian Ms. Pat, joined by fellow comedian Zach Noe Towers. The conversation delves deep into Ms. Pat's tumultuous personal history, her journey into comedy, and her experiences navigating complex family dynamics.

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Ms. Pat's Early Life and Struggles

Ms. Pat opens up about her harrowing early years, marked by poverty and teenage pregnancies. At the tender age of 13, she became pregnant and gave birth at 14, followed by another child at 15. Raising two children while living at her mother's house, Ms. Pat describes the challenges she faced, including dealing with abusive relationships and the absence of support from the fathers of her children.

Notable Quote:
Ms. Pat [01:02]: "Not easy being Jeff Lewis."
Jeff Lewis [01:15]: "Cause I just don't. I don't want a reputation. Too late."

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Involvement in Drug Dealing and Violence

To support her family after the father of her children went to jail, Ms. Pat turned to selling crack cocaine. Her involvement in the drug trade led to significant dangers, including being shot twice. The first incident involved her child's father accidentally shooting her in the head, causing severe injury. The second shooting was a confrontation with another drug dealer, resulting in physical trauma.

Notable Quote:
Ms. Pat [05:18]: "Yes. Twice."
Ms. Pat [05:24]: "My kid's father shot me in the back of the head. But he said he didn't mean to, so it just cracked my skull."

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Transition to Comedy

Ms. Pat credits a pivotal moment during a visit to a welfare office for inspiring her to pursue comedy. Encouraged by Ms. Jamie, who saw her storytelling potential, Ms. Pat participated in an open mic session. Her first joke about her brother, a "fat cat burglar," received laughter, solidifying her path toward becoming a comedian. She studied icons like Richard Pryor and Bill Cosby, honing her storytelling skills to transform her painful experiences into humor.

Notable Quote:
Ms. Pat [11:57]: "She kept saying, you need to try to be a comedian. So I went to open mic... they laughed. So I just knew it was for me."

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Family Dynamics and Personal Life

Ms. Pat discusses her long-term marriage of 31 years with Garrett, whom she initially did not find attractive but stayed with for the sake of her children. She shares anecdotes about her children, including Junebug, her favorite son, and her challenges with accepting her gay daughter. Her relationship with her daughter was strained due to preconceived notions about homosexuality, but she eventually reconciled and accepted her.

Notable Quote:
Ms. Pat [23:36]: "Junebug is my baby. On the show, he's my baby."

Ms. Pat [25:16]: "I had an abortion at 16 because I already had two kids by a married man... So I started selling drugs."

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Ms. Pat's Show and Career Highlights

Ms. Pat highlights her successful TV show on BET, aptly named "Ms. Pat Settles." She discusses the creative process behind the show, emphasizing that each episode tackles specific themes, such as relationships and societal issues, infused with her unique humor. The show has released eight episodes, receiving praise for its authenticity and comedic brilliance.

Notable Quote:
Ms. Pat [29:22]: "We dropped our eight episodes. Bet it's the baddest shit over there."

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Building a New Life and Embracing DIY

Transitioning from her past, Ms. Pat shares her recent accomplishment of building a 15,000 square foot compound in Atlanta. Emphasizing her love for DIY projects, she took charge of constructing her new home, showcasing her independence and resourcefulness. This new chapter signifies her commitment to creating a stable and comfortable environment for her family.

Notable Quote:
Ms. Pat [21:05]: "I'm big on DIY. I love DIY. Something my husband used to build homes."

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Challenges with Family Acceptance and Personal Growth

Ms. Pat candidly discusses her struggles with accepting her daughter's sexuality, stemming from her Southern upbringing. Initially, she faced significant challenges in reconciling her beliefs with her daughter's identity. Over time, however, she found a path to acceptance, understanding, and love, which she now incorporates into her comedy, turning personal pain into relatable humor.

Notable Quote:
Ms. Pat [25:19]: "I had to get used to them. And they cute, they cute. I always say she likes them Snoop Dogg looking hoes."

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Conclusion

This episode of "Jeff Lewis Has Issues" offers an unvarnished glimpse into Ms. Pat's life, highlighting her resilience, ability to transform adversity into comedy, and her journey towards personal growth and acceptance. Jeff Lewis facilitates a conversation that is both humorous and deeply personal, providing listeners with valuable insights into the complexities of Ms. Pat's experiences.

Final Notable Quote:
Ms. Pat [33:06]: "You're one of the most fascinating people that's ever sat in that chair, by the way."

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Closing Remarks

Ms. Pat's story is a testament to overcoming immense challenges through strength, humor, and self-determination. Her candid discussions on "Jeff Lewis Has Issues" not only entertain but also inspire listeners to find laughter and resilience in the face of life's adversities.

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End of Summary

Transcript

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[Ms. Pat]

Not easy being Jeff Lewis.

[Jeff Lewis]

I don't wanna go on a date, spend 400 bucks and then have him not have a good body. So, yes, I felt him up. I am guilty of. I give people too much information. It's almost like too soon. You know what I'm saying?

[Ms. Pat]

Yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

Cause I just don't. I don't want a reputation. Too late.

[Ms. Pat]

Jeff Lewis has issues.

[Jeff Lewis]

Hey, welcome to Jeff Lewis Has Issues. In Today's episode, comedians Ms. Pat and Zach Noe Towers. Join the show. We talk about Ms. Pat's journey to becoming a comedian. Her for stolen Siamese cat and the meaning of sequestered. So your name is Patricia Williams, but.

[Ms. Pat]

Patricia Williams Lee. I got a husband.

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh, okay. But you go by Ms. Pat.

[Ms. Pat]

Yes.

[Jeff Lewis]

And how long have you been going by Ms. Pat?

[Ms. Pat]

For about 22 years, since I've been a comedian.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay. And you've lived a very, very interesting life. We did a deep dive. You grew up in, was it Atlanta or Indiana?

[Ms. Pat]

Atlanta.

[Jeff Lewis]

You grew up in Atlanta, but then you lived in Indiana for like 15 years with your current husb.

[Ms. Pat]

Yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

You've only been married once, right?

[Ms. Pat]

Only once. Never do it again.

[Jeff Lewis]

But you've been married like what, 30 years or something?

[Ms. Pat]

31. Yes. Wow.

[Jeff Lewis]

Wow. And I mean, that's been working out, obviously.

[Ms. Pat]

Well, I'm not into switching partners like that. Cause I've had crabs, gunnery and fleas. And I know what a STD feel like. So when I found me a clean one, I just held onto it.

[Jeff Lewis]

Not fleas.

[Ms. Pat]

Oh, yeah, that last one gave me fleas.

[Jeff Lewis]

We didn't have no dog so now you. You grew up in poverty.

[Ms. Pat]

Yes.

[Jeff Lewis]

And you were pregnant at a very young age. You got pregnant at 14, and so you had your first baby at 14?

[Ms. Pat]

Well, I got pregnant at 13. Had my first baby at 14, yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay, and then you had your second child, was it a year later?

[Ms. Pat]

I got pregnant at 14 and had that child at 15.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay, and then you're living at your mom's house.

[Ms. Pat]

Yes.

[Jeff Lewis]

And then your sister also. And what is the age difference between you and your sister?

[Ms. Pat]

We, two years apart.

[Jeff Lewis]

She also got pregnant.

[Ms. Pat]

Yeah, we got pregnant by two brothers. Two grown ass brothers. My kid's father was 21 or 22, married, and I think he was in his 20s. And my sister was 16. She was 16 when she gave birth.

[Jeff Lewis]

Now, did any of those men help you out financially at all?

[Ms. Pat]

No.

[Jeff Lewis]

No.

[Ms. Pat]

So I found me a man with some finance later on.

[Jeff Lewis]

Later on is. When did you meet Garrett, your husband?

[Ms. Pat]

I spent about 11 years with my first kid's father, and I went to a comedy show. It's like it was a comedy show and lip. Singing contest with Bruce. Bruce. And my husband. Brother was friends with my brother girlfriend. And he had just got out the military. And I was like, he really ain't my type, but my kids need a daddy. And so I was hiring for a baby daddy at the time. When I met, I was like, bingo, you're a little fat, but I can work with it.

[Jeff Lewis]

So you actually. You were with the. Your children's father. You were with him for 11 years? Well, was he the dad of both kids?

[Ms. Pat]

I was never with them. He was with everybody. So, you know, I was just one of the chicks that thought she was in love. Cause when I met him, he only had one child and a wife. She was pregnant with a second child, which I didn't know until she knocked on my door. Make a long story short, by the time I left, I think he was up to like, 17 or 20. Some kids.

[Jeff Lewis]

Was it Nick Cannon?

[Ms. Pat]

No. I wish I wouldn't be here talking to y'all. I'd be like, mind your damn business.

[Jeff Lewis]

So you were in a situation where you had to make a living, you had to support these kids, and then what did you do to make a living?

[Ms. Pat]

I dropped out of school, high school in eighth grade. And I started to sell crack. My kid's father was selling it first. He had just hit the black community in the early late 80s, early 90s. And my daughter was born in 86. So when he went to jail because he used to pay out, like, pay My little rent. Help me out. When he went to jail, all I had was a welfare check that was $230. I couldn't live off that, so I did what I saw him. I started to sell drugs, but I was way better. I became a big time drug dealer. I had lots of money, you know. I got shot a couple times. I went through a lot.

[Jeff Lewis]

Wait, I'm sorry. You got shot?

[Ms. Pat]

Yes. Twice.

[Jeff Lewis]

Twice?

[Ms. Pat]

Yes.

[Jeff Lewis]

How? I mean, how and why?

[Ms. Pat]

My kid's father shot me in the back of the head. But he said he didn't mean to, so it just cracked my skull. And then another guy was shooting at me, and I was shooting at him, but I didn't know what I was doing. He shot me up under the arm and it came out through my areola and blew my nip off.

[Jeff Lewis]

Did you reconstruct the nipple?

[Ms. Pat]

Reconstruct? I'm out the hood. We don't know about no damn reconstruction. You mean put a band aid on it? You damn right. I went to the hospital. Your nipple gonna grow back.

[Jeff Lewis]

So I'm sorry. You started shooting at him?

[Ms. Pat]

Yeah, we was having like. It was a drug dealer thing. And so I didn't know what I was doing. So I turned to walk in the house and it hit me up under my arm and it blew my areola. And the way it went through my areola and knocked my nipple down, they just put it back up.

[Jeff Lewis]

How does it look today? Good.

[Ms. Pat]

You can't tell it unless you stuck in my titties. You into big black titties?

[Jeff Lewis]

Did you say. Did I read that your large breasts saved your life?

[Ms. Pat]

Yeah, that's why I say my titties saved my life. Cause if I was an A cup, I would have died. And the doctor said he was like, if you a small breasted, this would have tore you apart. It'll bust your chest open. But thank God it went through my boob tissue. Wow, I'm a.48. That's a lot of titties.

[Jeff Lewis]

No. So can we back up the first? That was the second time you were shot?

[Ms. Pat]

Yeah, my kid. The first time I was shot, My kid's father, we was in a fight. He caught me with a guy. He hit me with a gun.

[Jeff Lewis]

You were with a guy?

[Ms. Pat]

Yeah. Cause I was trying to leave him. He was no good. He was always cheating. I was always trying to make him jealous. Just dumb crap. So the gun went off and pulled a piece of my head out in the back. Well, and it cracked my skull. That's all it did. It was A big old hole. You'd have thought I should when the ambulance pulled up, because I called 911 called my first. He shot me. He loved me. That's how stupid I was. So the ambulance pulled up, they was confused because I called, say, I've been shot in the head. And it's like, what? How the hell are you even talking? And it was. They kept me in hospital. It was just. It was. The back of my head was just, wow. Messed up.

[Jeff Lewis]

Wow. Now you never. Did you ever press charges?

[Ms. Pat]

No. I was in love. At least I thought I was.

[Jeff Lewis]

And is it true that your mom said, if he don't hit you, he don't love you all the time?

[Ms. Pat]

Cause that's all she ever got, was beat. Wow. And my mama told me, she said, if a man don't hit you, he don't love you. And one day he hit me in my eye. And I said, fuck this. This ain't love. I picked up that iron and cracked him back across his head. And I been hitting back ever since.

[Jeff Lewis]

Hell, yeah. Wow. Okay. Yeah.

[Ms. Pat]

I learned to fight. But I was like, who? I tell you this. What love got to do when it came out. And it really did something to me. And I was like, you ain't got to keep. I ain't got to keep taking this because I would catch him cheating and I would get beat up.

[Jeff Lewis]

You get beat up from confronting him.

[Ms. Pat]

At the woman house, Butt naked in the bed with him.

[Jeff Lewis]

Wow.

[Ms. Pat]

Yeah. Many times.

[Jeff Lewis]

Meanwhile, the only shots Jeff's taken are Ozempic. Yeah. We've lived, like, parallel lives. This is crazy.

[Ms. Pat]

I know. That's why I came up here. I knew I would be fascinated.

[Jeff Lewis]

You gotta shake things up in here. All right, so for those of you that don't know, Ms. Pat, you're a very successful comedian. You have a hit TV show on BET, which is called Ms. Pat.

[Ms. Pat]

No, Ms. Pat's show is on BET. Ms. Pat settles. It is on BET. I'm a judge also.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah, I was gonna ask. We'll get to that. But I wanna know, like, first of all, you go to jail for dealing drugs. And you're in jail for what, a year?

[Ms. Pat]

Yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

Wow. Okay. And then I'm just. I'm trying to figure out, how did you get here, from there to here like this. This.

[Ms. Pat]

So I. I think so. I went through all of this mess in life. I had two kids. I go to jail. I make all of these mistakes. I mean, at the time of my life, I'm a shitty mom. Cause I have a gay daughter. I don't know how to deal with it. I get married, I'm trying to take care of everybody else kids, overlooking my own kids. And I walk into the welfare office. I voted. I'm a big Democrat. I walk into the welfare office and I voted for Bill Clinton. And he come out with this program called the Welfare to Work program. What pissed me off, that's not why I voted for you. To make poor people get a job. I'm all into the Young and the Restless at the time. How dare you interrupt my daytime soap opera, you dirty ass white dude. And I only voted.

[Jeff Lewis]

I used to watch that too.

[Ms. Pat]

He was so.

[Jeff Lewis]

It's so good. Young and Restless. No. Young and Restless.

[Ms. Pat]

Yes.

[Jeff Lewis]

So good. I used to watch that in college.

[Ms. Pat]

Yes. And he. I voted for him. And he came up with this program. We had to go either back to school or get a job. So I dropped out in eighth grade and I just got into the GED program so I can keep my free housing because I had Section 8 at the time. So I knew how to work the system. Because everybody in the hood know how to work the system. Because when we learn something new, we tell the next person how not to get a job. That's how I happen. Now that I'm in a tax bracket, I want a different tax bracket. I want to kill all the. Oh, Lord have mercy. I was wondering what the whites was complaining about. Now I know. Baby, Baby, I'm two days from storming the Capitol.

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh my God.

[Ms. Pat]

So I go to this welfare office and you know, the thing is to make people. I'm gonna be honest with you. Make white people feel sorry for you. You go, you tell all these horrible ass stories. So white America. Oh, Carrie. Well, I'm so sorry for what happened to the blacks. We want you to say that so we can get more out of you. But this time I show. I'm just being. I show up. It's a black case. I said, now how I'm gonna work this? I was so pissed off. And she's an educated black woman too. You don't with. You don't mess with educated black people. They already know who you is before you walk your ass through that door. White people don't know cuz they never been to my side of the world. So I walk in there and I start telling these horrible stories. Oh, I've been molested. Oh, I had two kids. Oh, my granddaddy hung me because we stole the food stamp. And this lady started laughing. She hollered, tears rolling in her eyes. Her name is Ms. Jamie. She's my God mom now. And she was like, you should not worry about no ged. You should get your ged, but you should try to be a comedian. And I was like, what are you talking about? She's like, girl, you sound like Richard Pry in here. So when I would go and read Recertified for My Welfare and stuff, she would block off two hours because she just wanted me to tell her stories for my life.

[Jeff Lewis]

Really?

[Ms. Pat]

Yes. And she just kept saying, you need to try to be a comedian. So I went to open mic, and I'm a convicted felon so many times, probably 20. So I walk into an open mic and I get on the mic and I tell this story about my brother being a fat cat burglar. Cause my brother used to like to break in people's houses. He had a things. I only break in white people housing. So if you walk in, if you walk in there in the picture of a black family, he'll turn around sometime and leave. Unless they had some fire shit. He was, I'm sorry, black people, but I'm in here now, so. So make a long story short. I go and I, I tell this story about my brother being a fat cat burger. That was my first joke. And they laughed. So I go home and I get into bed with my husband. I said, I'm a comedian. He's like, take your ass asleep and go back to Walmart tomorrow. But when I get my mind set on something and I, I, I just knew it was for me because I started, like, studying like Richard Pryor, Bill Cosmic. My name was like you, a lot like Richard Pryor with all these crazy stories. So I just dug into everything Rich Pryor and Bill Cosby had ever done. Then Burning Mac come along. I started to look at him and I was like, I'm a storyteller. And I just, I just started telling these stories about my life. How I got pregnant by married man, how I got abused, how I got molested, and. And I tried to make it as funny as possible because I tell people, you can laugh at what you've been through in life, then you got control, pain.

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[Ms. Pat]

Yes. Okay. I probably was 8, and my sister was 10.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay.

[Ms. Pat]

And so we had a competition where the church said, well, anybody who raised the most money, the first place. The first. The first place prize was an Atari. Well, we couldn't afford Atari back then. And it probably was 39, maybe 50 at the most. And so we really wanted an Atari because every kid who had two parents in the neighborhood had an Atari. So me and my sister up, they would give you these little certified cards, and you would stand on the corner. Can you please give a donation to New Jerusalem Baptist Church? And we have our brown side, and people just giving us money, giving us money. And I think we had, like, two or three bags of money, dollars and coins. And we was like, we're gonna win this Atari. We go home. Because we had been doing this, like, it was in the summertime, like, all week. But we knew not to tell my mama. We fall asleep with the money out. My mama wake us up. She's like, wake up. Where y'all get all this money from? And she took the church money.

[Jeff Lewis]

Your mom took the church money?

[Ms. Pat]

Yes. And I'm like, that's for the church. We gonna win our tour. She's like, shit, it's for me. We got in that 64 Chevy that didn't have no shocks. All we did was just bounce back. I'm surprised my damn neck ain't broke. So we go to the weed man. We go to the liquor store. We go to the grocery store. And I'm like, but we not gonna win if you spend all the money. She's like, shit, get them niggas $20.

[Jeff Lewis]

And gave us $20 to give to the church.

[Ms. Pat]

To give to the church. And we was like, we're never gonna win with 20.

[Jeff Lewis]

So how much did your mom.

[Ms. Pat]

It was a couple hundred dollars. Yeah, she took all of it. And I remember saying, she going to hell. She's a dirty. You're going to hell. You dirty. Now that I think about it, we could have bought our own damn guitar. Yeah, but thank God my brother broke in houses early on, so he broke in. He finally got us one.

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh, he stole one for you?

[Ms. Pat]

Yes, of course. Can I tell you another story? My brother, he's still outside, so he still. This one, Buckhead, you know that's where the rich white people.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yes.

[Ms. Pat]

And Back in those days, black folk didn't even dare walk over there. It was nothing wrong. We just couldn't afford to even look at the house. So my brother going buckhead, because that's who house he would break in and he stole a Siamese cat. Well, I don't know. We didn't know what the a Siamese cat is. But this cat, I'm not lying. This cat was so bougie. He bring the cat back to the house. He said, this is my. My brother said, I know this worth some money. We didn't even know what kind of cat it was. I said, why, look at the nigga. He got jury on his neck. He had a little tags on his neck. And so we had roaches. And so we put the cat down. And the cat. Our carpet was so sticky and dirty. That cat said, what the is this? And he started to tiptoe. And we had a dog and another cat. You know, our cat, Our dog would play with the roaches. That damn Siamese cat saw that roach and was like, what the. Where am I? He was. So you can tell he had never seen a house with roaches and hoes in the wall. And the street door, I cracked the door and that cat took off running. I was like, come back and look at you, baby. What your cat. I feel you. My bro was like, there go my money running down the street. Why did you open the door? I was like, that cat was like. And so we. We had the cat for like maybe, maybe a week. And my mama, we didn't feed all animals like dog food. Whatever we ate, we ate. So my mama throw a pig feet. Eat the pig feet. That cat was like, how dare you? I don't eat pig feet. I don't eat chitlins. Well, you gonna starve then if you don't eat this. Meanwhile the dog over there dogging that out, eating up everything that we eat. But that Siamese cat was like, you stole the wrong. I always wanted to tell that story. I never knew it was a Siamese cat. So I tell my husb this story. Make a long story short. He said, what kind of cats? I don't know. So he. He said, must be a Siamese cat. I don't know what the is Sami cat. So we googled. I said, that's the cat my brother had. He was like, oh, I see why that cat ran away. Little Siamese cat.

[Jeff Lewis]

We need. We need to mention like, I mean, how far you've come. So I just saw pictures of your beautiful new 15,000 square foot house that you just built, that's a compound?

[Ms. Pat]

Yes.

[Jeff Lewis]

I'm guessing no roaches and no sticky carpet there.

[Ms. Pat]

Oh, no hardwood floor. A custom everything.

[Jeff Lewis]

It's beautiful.

[Ms. Pat]

Thank you. I'm big on diy. I love diy. Something my husband used to build homes. And I just got into it because I couldn't afford a lot of things when we first moved to Indiana. So I just started, you know, going on YouTube, and I was like, I do it myself. So I'm in love with diy. And so when I went to go do this house, and my husband was like, look, we don't need nothing that big. I said, you don't tell me. I don't listen to you. So my friend be like, you gotta be. What is it? When you listen to your mate, you gotta cooperative, collaborate somewhere.

[Jeff Lewis]

Somewhere subservient.

[Ms. Pat]

Maybe that's. Maybe that. Cause my friend got a degree who told me. I said, I'm not being no Serbia to nobody. You here to have sex with me, and I'm here to make my own decisions.

[Jeff Lewis]

So this. So you basically took charge. You acted as the general contractor. You and I talked about this. You hired all the subs. You saved yourself probably 20, 30% and.

[Ms. Pat]

Probably spent it back in mistakes or. You know. Yeah, like, I went and got custom faucets and. And I just did it up. I did what the hell I wanted to do. Because you only live once and you save all that money and then you die. And what your kids gonna do? I got a gay daughter, she gonna take these out and eat them on my dime. So I'm gonna spend all my money. My dumb son is gonna spit it all, try to jack his truck up. My other son is gonna eat it. And my fat daughter in the basement in the other house. I'm spend. I'm not living you shit. You ain't talking no jokes.

[Jeff Lewis]

What I love is I didn't even have to ask this question. You. Your son, June Bug, how old is he? 22.

[Ms. Pat]

Yeah, 22. That's my favorite baby. I don't know why women be lying. You know, you got that one child you can't stand. You love them all, but you got one you can't get along with. Then you got one that's just your sweetheart. Junebug can ask me for anything. The rest of them, I see him struggle, get hit by a car, then I go over there and put a band aid on him. But Junebug is my baby. And on the show, he's my baby. That's my favorite Kid. And I tell him all the time, I said, I love all of y'all, but Junebug is my favorite. How did he.

[Jeff Lewis]

How did he become your favorite? Or did the others just become not your favorite?

[Ms. Pat]

I don't know. I think. Cause he weighed 10 pounds, 2 ounces when I had him. And he was the last baby I had before I got my tubes tied. So he was a closure of my vagina.

[Jeff Lewis]

You went to the rap party?

[Ms. Pat]

Yeah, he went to the rap party.

[Jeff Lewis]

Now, which is the one you least like?

[Ms. Pat]

I like all of them.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay.

[Ms. Pat]

The headache is my. My oldest daughter.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay.

[Ms. Pat]

Yeah, she. She. We. We went through some things. Okay. My daughter's gay. I'm from the South. And I was taught if you was gay, it's something wrong with you. So I went to prison. And I had never had a problem with gay men. I just did not like gay women. And she had a gay cheerleading coach that I wanted to choke every fucking day. I hated this lady. I fucking hated this big white lady that looked like a truck driver. I hated her. We friends now. And my daughter, why I didn't like the cheerleading coach? Well, because of the way I was raised. If you gay, it was something wrong with you. Then when my daughter go off to college and you know, I started hearing these rumors she might be gay. When it happened to you, you started to make a decision. And the decision I made, do I. Do I judge my daughter by her sexuality or do I love her like I'm on her mother? So my daughter disappeared for like three years, just running all around the country because I guess school, right? She went to school to be a teacher in Albany. You. In Albany, Georgia. And then she just dropped out of school and just started traveling with a whole bunch of other gay kids who parents want to accept they was gay. Well, she never told me she was gay, so how the hell I supposed to accept it? I was only assuming. I know when I pushed her out, she grabbed a hold to Malay, but that didn't mean she was gay. So make a long story short. I just called her up one day, I saw a fight on Facebook, and I said, are you gay? And she said, yes, ma'am. I said, bring your ass home. We live in Atlanta. You can eat pussy all over the place. That's what they do down here. They just don't eat me.

[Jeff Lewis]

And you said at that point, you accept her?

[Ms. Pat]

Yes. Now I tell you, I gotta be honest. Cause I talk about this on stage. It was hard accepting my daughter when I see her on Facebook, kissing these Bitches that look like dudes. Cause we look just alike. And I would think that get my face off them bitches now. She loved me doing gay jokes about it, but it, you know, she, she, my daughter liked them hard. They look like men, you know them construction working hoes and I just had to get used to them. And they cute, they cute. I always say she like, she liked them Snoop Dogg looking holes.

[Jeff Lewis]

So she's back in Atlanta.

[Ms. Pat]

She back in Atlanta. She got a girlfriend.

[Jeff Lewis]

Good. Okay.

[Ms. Pat]

But she was a hoe too, so she, all she did was date. And I, and that's another problem I had. Well I said look, you can't be eating all the vagina. The Medicaid would knock your teeth out.

[Jeff Lewis]

Out.

[Ms. Pat]

You going to lose teeth eating the un. You know, medicated pussy. Medicated pussy. You got eat blue crawl, Blue shield pussy. Don't lose your wheels. Them teeth out here just sucking on anything and so but what's funny is when I sent my daughter being gay, she want the world to be gay. She just come over. Woo. Hey, you not going to talk about no pussy at the Thanksgiving dinner. Ain't no pussy on this table. We eating tuck it today.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay, so left turn. Now you have another daughter who lives with you, but you've built a podcast studio in the new house.

[Ms. Pat]

Yes.

[Jeff Lewis]

And so it's almost like its own Separate guest house.

[Ms. Pat]

2500 square feet. And she's over there, cuz she get on my damn nerve.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay, so you have so that daughter, she's like what, 25?

[Ms. Pat]

Yeah, she's 25.

[Jeff Lewis]

And you have her sequestered to the podcast.

[Ms. Pat]

What sequester mean?

[Jeff Lewis]

Separated. Yeah, separated.

[Ms. Pat]

Oh, separated. Just say separated.

[Jeff Lewis]

I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to.

[Ms. Pat]

Ged, I'm asking questions. I thought that was a black name. You know somebody named Sequester got a ged? Keep it low brother. Keep it low. Sequestered. What the hell? You know a. They sequestered too, cuz I do.

[Jeff Lewis]

All right, so she's separated in the podcast.

[Ms. Pat]

Yeah, she just live over there cuz she got my damn near.

[Jeff Lewis]

But Junebug, I bet his, I bet his room is right next to yours.

[Ms. Pat]

It's up under mine. He got a fireplace. So sitting room is, is room is laid out. Everybody room is laid out. Everybody room is laid out.

[Jeff Lewis]

But you don't want him to leave. You want to make him as comfortable as possible.

[Ms. Pat]

I just want him to save enough money, buy his house, you know, with cash. So I go to, I buy all the Furniture in the house have it. But for June book. I went to respiration warehouse. Did I say that right?

[Jeff Lewis]

Restoration. Restoration Hardware. We'll say rh. Rh.

[Ms. Pat]

We went to rh. I'm out here buying.

[Jeff Lewis]

I can't pronounce. That's exp.

[Ms. Pat]

I paid $15,000 off of it. That my boo right there. That my boo. He do nowhere, but he is a weed head. And that broke my heart. But he got on weed because he listened to Joe Rogan and he actually lost £200. So I was like, I need to smoke weed. How do you lose weight? It just motivated him. It got him up. He ex. He had so many titties and now he. Oh, he lost all that weight.

[Jeff Lewis]

Wait, what did you say about titties?

[Ms. Pat]

He had like a so many titties. Cuz he was a fat kid.

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh, I see.

[Ms. Pat]

And we live in that all white. I know what it was. He. We lived in Plainfield and them little white girls, you know, they teach him to eat carrots from elementary school. And they.

[Jeff Lewis]

My daughter eats.

[Ms. Pat]

They don't want. They didn't want no big old black man. So Juma lost all them weight. All that weight. Then all the white wanted him. He said, no, I don't want y'all. Now y'all didn't want me when I had all them titties.

[Jeff Lewis]

Ms.

[Ms. Pat]

I'm liking him. Sequester. Oh, come on.

[Jeff Lewis]

The Ms. Pat show is airing. Season four is airing now.

[Ms. Pat]

Yes.

[Jeff Lewis]

Great. And it started. The first episode started just in May, right? Yeah, just last what episodes this week?

[Ms. Pat]

Oh, no, no, no. We dropped our eight episodes.

[Jeff Lewis]

They're all streaming.

[Ms. Pat]

Bet it's the baddest shit over there.

[Jeff Lewis]

I know that Shane was just laughing his ass off yesterday because he was watching it in the office. And then I came in the episode where. Right when, like right when Junebug, when you made him take off all of his clothes. Jeff Wagner was like, what are you watching? I was like, this is a hot guy.

[Ms. Pat]

It was a great show.

[Jeff Lewis]

It was a great show.

[Ms. Pat]

It is funny and it's all about something. And this season is hilarious. Cause we got white people being slaves. You have never seen that on TV before? Never. What a black people ain't.

[Jeff Lewis]

Hey, the white people have never heard a commercial for crack.

[Ms. Pat]

Oh, that's right.

[Jeff Lewis]

I have a live read for crack tomorrow.

[Ms. Pat]

Hey, put the music Ms. Pe in there with it so we can get more listeners. But it's so funny. And every episode is about something and we never do anything just to be doing it. Like the episode you see with Junebug come home with a white girl who's not even. He's not even a daddy. But he was dating her because somebody left her pregnant. And I was like oh this is not gonna happen to you. So it's always, it's always about something.

[Jeff Lewis]

So I am so naive. But. And you were very kind to me this morning when I was like I don't understand like all these kids like these 14 year olds and 15 year olds like having all these kids. And I mean it's very naive to assume but it's because you guys, you couldn't afford abortions.

[Ms. Pat]

We. No. Well they stopped giving abortions on Medicaid. So back in the day when I got my abortion, you just go down there and use the little brown Medicaid slips. This before they was like healthcare for all. So whenever somebody in your family got pregnant, like my daughter Ashley ain't never had an abortion in her life. She gay. But baby she had quite few abortions. If she go to Greater Memorial Hospital cuz my friend kids will get. Get pregnant. I would give her her Medicaid slip. So I told Ash, I said do not go to Grady because you straight. You will be gay. When they pull your file, they going to ask you why did you kill all these babies. So just go to another mercy room. Let me explain to you Jeff, cuz you looking lost.

[Jeff Lewis]

I was lost for a second but I got on it.

[Ms. Pat]

So let me explain. So back in the day when you got pregnant and you didn't have any money, you can get abortion on the Medicaid. That was like. Like Obamacare. That was government assistance but it was only for people on welfare and low income people. Make a long story short, if. If your. If your daughter got pregnant, you didn't have health care, I would give you my child Medicaid slip. And you will. Your child can get them and I'm just admitting to it. I don't give a. It's been over 30 years ago. So everybody will pass their Medicaid slips around. Who child wasn't pregnant but your. But your friend child needed an abortion. So I told my daughter Ashley, don't ever go to a hospital Grady because she had quite a few in abortions. But she gay.

[Jeff Lewis]

I see her slip had abortions. Her slip, her foul. Okay, I'm totally caught up now. Yes, thank you so thank you for explaining that.

[Ms. Pat]

So I have an abortion.

[Jeff Lewis]

Give a penny, take a penny. But with abortions.

[Ms. Pat]

Yeah. So I had an abortion at 16 because I already had two kids by a married man. And I just knew. I said, I'm uneducated. It. I can't even get a job because I would go on interviews with the baby. And so I was like, I gotta find a lifestyle. And so I started selling drugs. I got into trafficking cocaine and selling crack. And that became very lucrative. Is that the right word?

[Jeff Lewis]

Lucrative?

[Ms. Pat]

Thank you. Oh, boy. People with degrees be helping me out. Correct English. I was.

[Jeff Lewis]

I'd be honored to hang out and just, like, translate. Yeah. Give you words. Thank you. You're one of the most fascinating people that's ever sat in that chair, by the way.

[Ms. Pat]

Well, thank you.

[Jeff Lewis]

And funniest.

[Ms. Pat]

Yeah, but thank you.

[Jeff Lewis]

You know it.

[Ms. Pat]

So I started selling crack and I get shot, like I said earlier, and I make a living. And so I met a great man who got out of the military a little fat. Didn't really like him, but I was hiding for a black baby daddy, and he came along and I met the.

[Jeff Lewis]

Baby dad, Garrett, 31 years.

[Ms. Pat]

31 years. Years. He was a little thick. He fat now. We both fat. I got him on Oz, but the only thing, he losing his air.

[Jeff Lewis]

All right, so we do need to clarify. I was explaining at the break what a chump is because you were a little confused by the Chump University promo. Now, your. Your listeners and viewers, you call them.

[Ms. Pat]

What, crack babies and fans in general. Yes.

[Jeff Lewis]

Like, I'm a crack baby. Okay. And you sell merch that says crack baby.

[Ms. Pat]

Yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

So me, what would it be like with me as a white guy strolling down Cannon in Beverly Hills with crack baby?

[Ms. Pat]

You Miss Pat fan? They say miss Pat crack baby.

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh, good. So Miss Pat's on there.

[Ms. Pat]

Yes.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay.

[Ms. Pat]

They don't say you smoke crack.

[Jeff Lewis]

Thanks for listening. If you want more of this, listen to Jeff Lewis Live and Jeff Lewis extended every weekday on SiriusXM as well as the Jeff Lewis Channel, exclusively on the SiriusXM app.

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