Natasha Leggero & Zach Noe Towers: Circus Camp & Brothels

Summary

Podcast Summary: Jeff Lewis Has Issues Episode: Natasha Leggero & Zach Noe Towers: Circus Camp & Brothels
Release Date: May 16, 2025
Host: SiriusXM
Guests: Natasha Leggero, Zach Noe Towers

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Introduction

In this episode of Jeff Lewis Has Issues, Jeff Lewis is joined by comedian Natasha Leggero and actor Zach Noe Towers. The trio delves into a variety of personal and professional topics, ranging from the challenges of parenting and handling fame to humorous anecdotes about their careers and personal lives.

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Navigating Fame and Public Recognition

Discussion on Undeserved Recognition: Natasha and Zach share their experiences with fame, highlighting the frustrations of being recognized without the public truly knowing them.

• Natasha Leggero (00:54):
  “I'm stuck at that level of fame also.”

• Zach Noe Towers (01:04):
  “We talk about circus camp, knockoff tour guides and international brothels.”

Handling Public Misconceptions: They discuss how people often mistake them for others or assume things about their lives based on their appearances.

• Natasha (01:37):
  “How do I know you? They think you know. They know you from the gym.”

• Zach (02:27):
  “I love it. Love being small. My daughter's mad at me. We were at Disneyland and she's like crying because she said it's my fault that she can't ride the rides yet.”

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Parenting Challenges and Strategies

Managing Children's Expectations: Both Natasha and Zach talk about the difficulties of enforcing chores and responsibilities with their young daughters.

• Natasha (04:25):
  “I didn't have all the edge details. I said you had every edge detail.”

• Zach (08:10):
  “I'm always like, I'm throwing this huge party for my daughter June 20th. It has to be done by then.”

Balancing Discipline and Encouragement: They share strategies on maintaining order while nurturing their children's independence.

• Natasha (10:07):
  “But now it's like, everything's a fight. It's itchy.”

• Zach (12:03):
  “It's hard though, because I'm... My husband's just like, oh, I don't take that seriously.”

Role Modeling and Influence: The conversation touches on how parents' behaviors and responses shape their children's perceptions and actions.

• Zach (26:31):
  “Do you know what I mean? Like whether you had volleyed it back and forth and then canceled on them like before the charity self happen.”

• Natasha (27:43):
  “I do, I do, absolutely. Like I said, I'm very careful about what I do and say in front of her.”

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Professional Experiences and Career Anecdotes

Zach’s Brief Stint in a Brothel: Zach recounts his surprising and brief experience working in a brothel in Australia, highlighting the unexpected nature of the job and his quick departure.

• Zach (35:36):
  “I worked in a brothel in Australia for one day.”

• Natasha (35:36):
  “Would you get fired or quit?”
  “I quit.”

• Zach (35:42):
  “Because I thought it was the most... the job I found online was $20 an hour to answer calls, but then they wanted me to clean the towels.”

Educational Journeys: Both guests share their lengthy and winding paths through higher education, reflecting on their degrees and the time invested.

• Zach (06:04):
  “I took my husband once and he goes, this place has major get me out of here vibes. I was like, that's how I felt my whole childhood.”

• Natasha (06:35):
  “Wait, what was your degree?”
  “Pre-law with a minor in business.”

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Handling Household Projects and Contractor Issues

Dealing with Unreliable Contractors: Natasha expresses her frustration with contractors who fail to meet deadlines, leading to project delays.

• Natasha (04:25):
  “I have single handedly delayed this project.”

• Unnamed Speaker (04:57):
  “How many fabricators are there in Los Angeles?”

Strategies for Effective Communication: Natasha and Zach discuss methods to assertively handle professional setbacks and ensure projects stay on track.

• Natasha (05:32):
  “I was like, don’t do that. You had every edge detail.”

• Zach (05:29):
  “You're like, that's how I should talk to contractors.”

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Balancing Career and Personal Life

Impact of Careers on Family Dynamics: The guests explore how their professional lives intersect with and influence their roles as parents and partners.

• Zach (07:23):
  “Now I have a daughter. I have an only child. As I said in my book, one is an accessory, two is a lifestyle.”

• Natasha (27:54):
  “Zack, do you ever like the paper cut? Like you cut paper?”

Maintaining Personal Identity: They discuss the importance of preserving individuality and personal interests amidst the demands of parenthood and public life.

• Zach (16:17):
  “But that's the thing. Like, my mom, she enrolled me in acting class...she found it in Rockford and it changed my whole life.”

• Natasha (16:50):
  “She's got to have other interests.”

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Humorous Anecdotes and Light-hearted Moments

Disneyland Adventures: Zach shares a humorous account of his family's chaotic trip to Disneyland, emphasizing the challenges of managing a young child in a theme park.

• Zach (17:02):
  “We went with another family. Maybe 1200 per family.”

• Natasha (17:36):
  “Did you drink at the park?”

Zach’s Stand-Up Concerns: Zach reflects on the potential impact of incorporating family dynamics into his stand-up comedy, balancing honesty with privacy.

• Zach (25:09):
  “My daughter will say so many things to me...she's like, mom, don't ever tell anyone anything I say.”

• Natasha (28:00):
  “I donate. So that's what I do. That's my thing. I donate to them.”

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Confronting and Managing Conflict

Personal Approaches to Conflict: Natasha and Zach discuss their differing approaches to handling conflict, with Natasha embracing a more confrontational style and Zach striving for modern, conflict-free interactions.

• Natasha (23:12):
  “I find that my office is more efficient when I'm a little more stern.”

• Zach (23:43):
  “I can't yell at other people, and I've had neighbor issues...”

Influence of Background on Conflict Resolution: The guests explore how their upbringing and personal histories shape their methods of dealing with disputes and disagreements.

• Natasha (23:37):
  “I find that my office is more efficient when I'm a little more stern.”

• Zach (23:42):
  “They mistake it for your weakness.”

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Closing Remarks

The episode concludes with light-hearted banter and reflections on maintaining honesty and integrity in both professional and personal spheres. Jeff encourages listeners to tune into more episodes of Jeff Lewis Live available on SiriusXM.

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Notable Quotes

• Jeff Lewis (37:33):
  “If you want more of this, listen to Jeff Lewis Live every weekday on SiriusXM.”

• Natasha Leggero (28:41):
  “I just figure, do I ghost? Do I ghost them? That's kind of shitty.”

• Zach Noe Towers (35:36):
  “I worked in a brothel in Australia for one day.”

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Conclusion

This episode of Jeff Lewis Has Issues offers an engaging mix of humor, honesty, and relatable challenges faced by Natasha Leggero and Zach Noe Towers. From the intricacies of parenting young children to navigating the pitfalls of fame and professional life, the conversation provides valuable insights and entertaining anecdotes for listeners.

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Transcript

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[Natasha Leggero]

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[Zack Noe Towers]

When you're Jeff Lewis, the drama never stops.

[Natasha Leggero]

I've learned from my mistakes, and that's what I want to do. What I have done this show.

[Zack Noe Towers]

I mean, you guys really start some shit.

[Natasha Leggero]

I'm sorry if I'm coming off as an asshole. I just want people to do their jobs.

[Zack Noe Towers]

Jeff Lewis has issues.

[Jeff Lewis]

Hey, it's Jeff Lewis and I have issues. Today's episode, Natasha Leggiero and Zack Noe.

[Natasha Leggero]

Towers join the show.

[Jeff Lewis]

We talk about circus camp, knockoff tour guides and international brothels.

[Natasha Leggero]

For those of you who don't know Natasha, she's one of those famous people that you recognize her but you don't know her name. You have a very.

[Zack Noe Towers]

That's so flattering.

[Natasha Leggero]

You have a very familiar face.

[Zack Noe Towers]

Thank you.

[Natasha Leggero]

So you must get. Because this happens to me, too. How do I know you? They think you know. They know you from the gym. They think you're your neighbor. You think that you.

[Zack Noe Towers]

You've got to help them figure out how they know you.

[Natasha Leggero]

Doesn't that suck?

[Zack Noe Towers]

It does.

[Natasha Leggero]

I'm stuck at that level of fame also.

[Zack Noe Towers]

I think I prefer it.

[Jeff Lewis]

You do?

[Zack Noe Towers]

Yeah. Who wants to be bothered all day having to tell people, no, I'm not going to sign your picture.

[Natasha Leggero]

But we do get bothered all day. But you're right. We have to, like, explain to people who we are, who are.

[Jeff Lewis]

Who are you?

[Natasha Leggero]

How do I know you? And then you're like, well, I did this. No, that's not it. Well, this not. That's not it.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

No.

[Zack Noe Towers]

You know, I'm short and I can really go under the radar.

[Natasha Leggero]

You are very short. I. You are almost.

[Zack Noe Towers]

You asked me if I was a.

[Natasha Leggero]

Little person well, because you're that short, but you're, you're still.

[Zack Noe Towers]

I Wore Heels for 25 years. I can't do it anymore. I don't care.

[Natasha Leggero]

You're about 11.

[Jeff Lewis]

No.

[Natasha Leggero]

You're three inches away from being a little person legally.

[Zack Noe Towers]

You know, I love it. Love being small. My daughter's mad at me. We were at Disneyland and she's like crying because she said it's my fault that she can't ride the rides yet.

[Natasha Leggero]

Can you ride the rides?

[Zack Noe Towers]

Shut up. I could if I wanted to, but listen, this is why I tell you one of the benefits of going through perimenopause, because I'm 50 is, is you don't care anymore. It's kind of awesome. You don't care about the male gaze. You're like, whatever guy. I mean, I care about the gay male phase, the gay male gaze. A little bit still.

[Natasha Leggero]

Yes.

[Zack Noe Towers]

But like, I don't give a shit. It's like as you enter your 40s and your 50s, what happens as a woman is all of the estrogen starts to drain from your body. And another word for estrogen is tolerance. And you just have no tolerance for anything anymore. It's kind of how you are naturally probably like you just kind of get to turn into.

[Natasha Leggero]

You know, it's funny you say that because I feel like I have gotten soft and I've talked about on this radio show and I feel like the softer I get, the more taken advantage of. And so especially in the construction world. So if you've noticed, I've gotten nastier and nastier to those contractors. Cause I'm fucking over them because they will just, they take your kindness and they will take advantage. So all of a sudden they don't show up on Wednesday and then they're not showing up on Friday. And so it's unfortunate that in this business you kind of have to be a dickhead. But I always start with nice.

[Zack Noe Towers]

You know what I say to contractors? I'm always like, I'm throwing this huge party for my daughter June 20th. It has to be done by then. So I'll try to do that kind of stuff. Sometimes that doesn't work.

[Natasha Leggero]

And then you can't let him. You can't let him get away. What happened? The fabricator yesterday, where I said, you.

[Jeff Lewis]

Have, you have single handedly delayed this project.

[Unnamed Speaker 2]

And then he tries to blame you. Oh, no, I didn't have the edge detail.

[Natasha Leggero]

I didn't have all the edge details. I said, don't do that. I said, you had every edge detail. You had every. You had every detail. I said you haven't been here. You haven't been answering your phone, and then that. It just didn't go very well.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

How many fabricators are there in Los Angeles? Is there, like, a supply and demand with fabricators where you have to be?

[Zack Noe Towers]

I think contractors in general are probably hard to get.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yes.

[Natasha Leggero]

Fabricators especially.

[Zack Noe Towers]

What's a fabricator?

[Natasha Leggero]

Okay. They're the ones, like, you buy the slab and then they cut it, and they may make, like, the vanities or they make your kitchen countertops.

[Zack Noe Towers]

They're like, in the Marble District or something.

[Natasha Leggero]

I'll tell you where I. Oh, down in the distance. I meant to say, like, where do I know this girl? Where do I know this girl? The Justin Bieber roast was so fucking funny. Thank you. I'm like, that's exactly where I know her from.

[Zack Noe Towers]

You're like, that's how I should talk to contractors.

[Natasha Leggero]

I mean, talk about riding the line. You weren't riding the line at all. Like, you were over the line, which I loved.

[Jeff Lewis]

I loved it.

[Zack Noe Towers]

Well, thank you. I mean, that was a different time.

[Natasha Leggero]

Oh, yeah.

[Zack Noe Towers]

You know, we're not. But I. You know, we're not so over the line these days, but you are, so. I like that. I'm afraid to get to know you, though, because I'm like, I'll become your enemy in, like, six months or something.

[Natasha Leggero]

I don't think so. No. I'll tell you where I really related to you. It took you nine years to graduate college? It took me five, plus two years of summer school.

[Zack Noe Towers]

Oh. I had to do summer school because I was like, how do I get past the science? And they're like, if you take summer school and if you take science summer school, a D is passing. So I would take all my science classes, but my degree is in theater criticism, which is an absurd degree.

[Natasha Leggero]

Mine's in criticism.

[Zack Noe Towers]

Is it really?

[Natasha Leggero]

Yes.

[Zack Noe Towers]

You have a degree in criticism?

[Natasha Leggero]

Just criticism.

[Zack Noe Towers]

It's my minor, but it actually really, really helped. Wait, what was your degree?

[Natasha Leggero]

Pre law with a minor in business.

[Zack Noe Towers]

Cool.

[Natasha Leggero]

Yeah. I sound smart, but I'm not.

[Zack Noe Towers]

Well, my problem. Do you sound smart?

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Is the smart in the room with us?

[Zack Noe Towers]

My problem was that I was putting myself through college in New York, so I had no money, so I just kept. You know, the matriculation doesn't count. And then you go from. I went from, like, Hunter College to Brooklyn College, Then I'd go to England for a year. Then I'd go to Australia for a year. I was just trying to like, then I was at Illinois State University. I mean, basically, I was just trying to get to Hollywood.

[Jeff Lewis]

See, I had a different theory.

[Natasha Leggero]

I was like, oh, she's a rich kid and she didn't want to leave college.

[Zack Noe Towers]

That's so funny.

[Natasha Leggero]

And she stayed as long as she possibly could until her parents were like, no more.

[Zack Noe Towers]

Oh, no, no. I paid for everything myself. Which is interesting, because now I have a daughter. I have an only child. As I said in my book, one is an accessory, two is a lifestyle.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Only one baby with a little handle, like, on it.

[Jeff Lewis]

I also have an accessory.

[Zack Noe Towers]

Yeah. I mean, but the thing is, like, I couldn't imagine making her waitress at the whiskey bar in a leotard for eight years, putting herself through school. I would never do that to my child. But it made me so, for lack of a better word, successful.

[Natasha Leggero]

Yeah.

[Zack Noe Towers]

So it is such a challenge because it just made me very scrappy and tenacious and never taking no for an answer and, you know, resilient. And I, you know, I just. It's. I don't know how my daughter is gonna have that stuff.

[Natasha Leggero]

I know, I know.

[Jeff Lewis]

What do we do?

[Natasha Leggero]

Same boat. So my daughter's a year older than your daughter. We haven't even done chores yet. Have you started the chores?

[Zack Noe Towers]

Yes. And all chores are. Are begging her to put the silverware away, and then they'll just silverware. Because I was like, this is her job. And, like, the silverware sit out. I clean the kitchen. The silverware is still sitting out. And then she comes home from school. I'm like, put away the silverware. And then I have to ask her like, nine times. She kind of, like, throws them in there and then just goes. It's. It's. It's challenging.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay.

[Natasha Leggero]

So Monroe feels like taking her own dishes to the sink.

[Jeff Lewis]

Not even putting them in the sink, not even rinsing them.

[Natasha Leggero]

She feel that's. She's very put out by that.

[Zack Noe Towers]

I know.

[Natasha Leggero]

And she feels like that's her chore. And Are you constantly picking up your kids clothes and shoes?

[Zack Noe Towers]

Not just my kids, my husband's. It's like, it's basically an ADHD household. So there's either like eight of something, or it's gone. It's so annoying. It's like, constant with everything. Like nine spatulas, ten nail clippers, and then all of a sudden, one day, they're all gone. It's. It's. It's hell. It's hell.

[Jeff Lewis]

Does your daughter have uniforms?

[Zack Noe Towers]

No, but that seems like that would be cool.

[Natasha Leggero]

It's actually cool. It's great because we would be a.

[Zack Noe Towers]

Uniform without the religion.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yes.

[Natasha Leggero]

Oh, we have uniforms without the religion.

[Zack Noe Towers]

That's cool.

[Natasha Leggero]

But the problem is I don't know.

[Jeff Lewis]

Where all the uniforms go.

[Natasha Leggero]

I don't know where she's leaving them.

[Unnamed Speaker 2]

I don't.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

She probably thinks they're disposable one time use, and she throws it away.

[Natasha Leggero]

She could be doing that. But does your. Okay. So does your daughter. Does she want to dress herself and pick out her own clothes?

[Zack Noe Towers]

She does, but it's funny. She wants to be a fashion designer, but she bases her clothing every day on, you know, how comfortable the waistbands are, you know, so she's just all about comfort, but then she takes that comfort thing and, like, tries to do something cool with it.

[Natasha Leggero]

Monroe was so, so cute, like, 3, 4, 5, when she just put on whatever I told her to put on or I put her. I got her dressed.

[Zack Noe Towers]

Oh, yeah.

[Natasha Leggero]

But now it's like, everything's a fight. It's itchy.

[Jeff Lewis]

It's too tight.

[Natasha Leggero]

It's too big.

[Unnamed Speaker 2]

It's the buttons.

[Jeff Lewis]

There's buttons.

[Natasha Leggero]

I don't want the buttons. It's such a nightmare. That's why I like the uniforms.

[Zack Noe Towers]

Well, that sounds awesome. Her. Her preschool teacher was like, she has clothing sensitivity. It's on the autism spectrum. And I'm like. My husband's like, no, she doesn't.

[Natasha Leggero]

Oh, is that.

[Zack Noe Towers]

No, it's just. They made that up. No, they just made it up to, like, cuddle children, I think. I don't know. But it's. She's fine now.

[Natasha Leggero]

Or.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

We all have autism.

[Zack Noe Towers]

We're in this together.

[Natasha Leggero]

Are you happy with your school?

[Zack Noe Towers]

Yes, Yes. I. My daughter, she's. She's at a nature school. I really love it.

[Natasha Leggero]

What?

[Zack Noe Towers]

She does a lot of gardening and knitting.

[Unnamed Speaker 2]

Is it preschool or is she in kinder?

[Natasha Leggero]

No, it's not married.

[Zack Noe Towers]

They're learning calligraphy. They're learning Roman numerals. You know, I'm a luddite. I really am cooking great for the super bowl. Cooking. They do cooking.

[Natasha Leggero]

All right, so you're just getting her ready to get her married off?

[Zack Noe Towers]

No, I need to put Monroe in that school.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

She's ironing. She's preparing cocktails.

[Zack Noe Towers]

She's trying to please an old Italian man who wants his things hung up in a certain way. She's making all the beds. No, I mean, the truth. It does seem like a trad. Wife training program, but it is not. But think about it. We probably have two years left till the end of the World, like, she should learn how to like grow food, you know, why does she need to learn all this math when I, I mean, I was so bad in science and math, so it's really hard for me.

[Natasha Leggero]

Yeah, no, it took you nine years to graduate.

[Zack Noe Towers]

I love that you thought I was a rich kid. You didn't go that deep in the Wikipedia.

[Jeff Lewis]

No, I didn't.

[Zack Noe Towers]

It's okay.

[Natasha Leggero]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

No, because it was quite the opposite, wasn't it? Poor in Illinois.

[Zack Noe Towers]

Poor in Illinois. Yeah. I don't really go back there very much. I took my husband once and he goes, this place has major get me out of here vibes. I was like, that's how I felt my whole childhood. It was so awful. So. But yes, it is a just, it is a definitely a very challenging thing raising a child in, in this new world that we have. Having one child, you know. But I will say I'm reading this book right now called Capote's Women. It came out a long time ago. It's all about Truman Capote. And he's just doing this deep dive of all these aristocratic women. And it's so fascinating to me, like how they grew up like that makes me feel happy. At least my kids putting away the silverware if I ask 10 times. Like these people, they thought it was so, so low class to be a professional at anything. They're like, ew, a job. Like a job even if you were something like a lawyer, a doctor, that was just like, oh, like you were just supposed to like live your leisure life.

[Natasha Leggero]

Well, I hate to tell you this, but that's what they're teaching at your kids school. You're going to be supporting her forever.

[Jeff Lewis]

Until you marry her off.

[Zack Noe Towers]

I know. That's why you need to have adjoining lots with, with like two houses. You know, it's so hard because I, it's, it's a, it's actually my, my per. My own personal meditation every day is saying no to her. Finding out, trying to figure out how to say no to her because it is impossible. She's so freaking cute. She knows exactly. She's like wheeling and dealing every single, you know, turn. So yeah, it's.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

They should do kid swap. You know how they did wife swap? You send your kid to like a.

[Zack Noe Towers]

Wife swap was amazing.

[Natasha Leggero]

It was. Yeah.

[Zack Noe Towers]

What. Where's that show that was so funny?

[Natasha Leggero]

And then they did celebrity wife swap. Yes, they sure did.

[Zack Noe Towers]

Wow. I mean, how would they even do wife swap now? Every, every person would be like, you should get off your phone.

[Unnamed Speaker 3]

Well, Bravo just announced that Bravo is doing. Is it Housewives Wife swap?

[Natasha Leggero]

Yeah, they just announced it yesterday.

[Unnamed Speaker 3]

Yeah, they'll be doing a version of it.

[Zack Noe Towers]

But yes, kid swap would be good.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

You know, send them to a farm or whatever.

[Natasha Leggero]

Oh, and then a little with all the predators and you know, we're not going to send our kid away.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Well, yeah, you would never.

[Zack Noe Towers]

But no. My husband literally googled summer camps that accept seven year olds and he's pitching them to me and I'm like, like sleepaway camps. And I'm like, sleep away. There's a reason why no camp in America. Only one camp in America and it's a trapeze camp for, like, to train them for the circus. Seven year old.

[Natasha Leggero]

Are you gonna send her?

[Zack Noe Towers]

No, but she really wants to too.

[Natasha Leggero]

Tritrapis camp.

[Zack Noe Towers]

Yes.

[Jeff Lewis]

Wow.

[Zack Noe Towers]

Well, it's actually called. It's like Wavy Gravy's camp. It's like, in San Francisco. A lot of like, cool people went there, but that's what it's called.

[Natasha Leggero]

I'm sure.

[Zack Noe Towers]

But it's all for, like. Yeah, like my daughter. Because I was always, always. Because my mom really was on point in terms of, like, my, you know, career and extracurriculars, and she got me into acting. And it really looks like it's called.

[Unnamed Speaker 3]

Camp Win a Rainbow.

[Zack Noe Towers]

Yes.

[Natasha Leggero]

What?

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

This is clown camp.

[Unnamed Speaker 3]

We're looking at them.

[Natasha Leggero]

It is clown camp.

[Unnamed Speaker 3]

They're on the ropes. They're on the trapeze. They're clowns.

[Natasha Leggero]

You can't do that.

[Zack Noe Towers]

I know, I know and see.

[Natasha Leggero]

No, no, no, no.

[Zack Noe Towers]

Here's the thing. Like, my mom, like, I, she, she enrolled me in acting class at, in Illinois. Somehow she found it in Rockford and it, like, changed my whole life. And I got to be a part of a theater, you know, since I was like 10. And so I've always told myself I will follow my daughter's passions and find her passions, because my mother did that to me. That's the only thing she's been excited about is doing aerial silks.

[Natasha Leggero]

No, no, no, no.

[Unnamed Speaker 3]

Camp Winter Rainbow is a unique and magical overnight camp for children's ages 7 to 14 that provides circus and performing arts classes. And in the beautiful hills of Mendocino County.

[Natasha Leggero]

It's none of my business, but I have to step in. She cannot go.

[Zack Noe Towers]

What do I do?

[Natasha Leggero]

We went to clown school. Does that give you an idea?

[Unnamed Speaker 3]

And I turned out fine.

[Natasha Leggero]

He went to clown school. No shit. What was your name?

[Unnamed Speaker 3]

Freckles. Freckles the clown.

[Zack Noe Towers]

That is cute.

[Unnamed Speaker 3]

See? Thank you, Natasha.

[Natasha Leggero]

Freckles Sad.

[Zack Noe Towers]

How do you not call him Freckles?

[Unnamed Speaker 2]

We do.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

And then later in life he's Melanoma the clown.

[Zack Noe Towers]

Okay, well, I, I just am very sensitive about following her passions, but I wish it wasn't something that was like, dangerous.

[Jeff Lewis]

You have to guide her though.

[Zack Noe Towers]

I know.

[Natasha Leggero]

She's got to have other interests.

[Zack Noe Towers]

I took her to the ballet. She goes, mom, the ballet is like watching yoga. Oh, she's just boring. So like, she just knows what she likes. Like, she doesn't like team sports. She's just like, no, I know.

[Natasha Leggero]

I'm having the same problem.

[Zack Noe Towers]

She just kind of wants to like. And I'm like, am I modeling something?

[Natasha Leggero]

No. You went to Disneyland? You took her to Disneyland?

[Zack Noe Towers]

See, I would have just kept this under wraps. Like I, I would have never told her about Disneyland. I would have let her naturally find out like at 12. Wait, what's this place that all my friends get to go to? Then I would have taken her there. But yeah, my husband was so excited. He got her like platform sneakers so she could like reach the rides. Some of them we went recently and I spent the last three hours in the car because I'm like, we got there at 7am we spent the night at the Disneyland hotel. Met a guy at 6:55 at like the. The hat. Whatever. Like the magical hat is.

[Natasha Leggero]

Yeah.

[Zack Noe Towers]

So by like 3pm I'm like, done. Bye guys. We didn't have the hotel for another night and all these people were with or just like trying to snort Disneyland. Like, just like can't get enough of it.

[Natasha Leggero]

I know.

[Zack Noe Towers]

I'm like, I don't need any more of this.

[Natasha Leggero]

Did you drink at the park?

[Zack Noe Towers]

You know, you can, you can drink there.

[Natasha Leggero]

Yeah, you got to find out there's not that. Oscar, how many places can you are bars at Disneyland?

[Unnamed Speaker 4]

All the restaurants in Disneyland now have like alcohol options, but you can't carry them around.

[Zack Noe Towers]

You have to go to California.

[Unnamed Speaker 2]

Yeah, you have to go to California and keep going.

[Unnamed Speaker 4]

Or do what I do. Bring a metal flask and pour it in there when they're not looking and.

[Natasha Leggero]

They want he's really into Disneyland.

[Zack Noe Towers]

Or drinking.

[Natasha Leggero]

Here's the other thing. Like when you introduce them to Disneyland too soon, then as adults, they want to go every weekend.

[Unnamed Speaker 4]

My parents deprived me of Disneyland. It wasn't until I became an adult that I started becoming obsessed with it.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

So you have to micro dose Disneyland.

[Natasha Leggero]

Well, I think they sensed there was going to be a problem.

[Zack Noe Towers]

Wait, you're a Disney adult?

[Unnamed Speaker 4]

I am, yeah.

[Zack Noe Towers]

Wow.

[Unnamed Speaker 4]

Say it like it's A bad thing.

[Natasha Leggero]

No, she's not. She's just.

[Zack Noe Towers]

I said this on my podcast, but, like, I was with a friend, sophisticated woman. She lives in the Bay Area. We get there and she goes, isn't the castle beautiful? I go, what? That? I go, no, it's a pro. Like, have you never seen a castle? Like, you've been to Europe?

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Golf course blown up.

[Zack Noe Towers]

Yeah, people are just under the influence. Influence there. And then just. They let too many people in. Like, it's just not enjoyable.

[Jeff Lewis]

Too crowded. You're right.

[Zack Noe Towers]

It was just like, why is the. Why not? Why don't they let a hundred less people in? So, like, just getting to my car from wherever the hell we were, like.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

It was just like a tram and then like, escalators.

[Zack Noe Towers]

Yeah.

[Natasha Leggero]

So you got very tired. And at 3 o' clock, I didn't even get tired.

[Zack Noe Towers]

I'm just like, I don't need to go on another ride.

[Jeff Lewis]

So you went and sat in the car for three hours?

[Zack Noe Towers]

Yeah. You think Humphrey Bogart went on the log ride? I mean, this is just such a thing. Like, why are adults doing this? Like, I just like my idea of, like, what is a sophisticated, glamorous person would do? That's why I'm, like, confused by adults who want to go there without children. Like, you want to, like, get jerked around on a ride and then, like, eat bad food?

[Natasha Leggero]

And at our age, like, my neck hurts, my back hurts, my feet hurt. I'm with you. I have, like, a very little tolerance with it. I'm going to probably have to have to go back this year every. She wants to go every year for her birthday.

[Zack Noe Towers]

Once a year is doable, I think.

[Unnamed Speaker 2]

And especially how you do it with the.

[Zack Noe Towers]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Speaker 2]

You did the guide?

[Natasha Leggero]

The guy, too.

[Unnamed Speaker 2]

Not waiting.

[Zack Noe Towers]

I did the cheap guide. I did a guide who Knock off. It was a knockoff guide. And she was like, literally, like, not supposed to be on the park premises. It was.

[Natasha Leggero]

So explain. You didn't do the Disneyland guide?

[Zack Noe Towers]

No. This woman used to work at Disneyland. Someone told me about her. It was awesome. She knew every single person there. Wait, what?

[Natasha Leggero]

Nothing.

[Zack Noe Towers]

Wait, what do you say?

[Natasha Leggero]

Nothing. Go ahead.

[Zack Noe Towers]

I don't know if I'm spoiled, but she was like. I was asking her, and I'm like, have you ever gotten in trouble? She's like, yeah, well, last week I was with Mario Lopez, and the park did ask me to leave, but they were like, see you tomorrow. Like, they know that she comes every day. She has an assistant, and they used to work the park. Like, work. So she Knows every single person, and she's literally doing this, like, Hollywood schmooze at the front of every line. She has a whole system. One of them's working the app. She's like, talking everybody. And. Oh, and they got us food. That was the most amazing thing. But this was. Look, Paul, you look broke ass, dude. I'm not paying $10,000 to let my kid not wait in line at Disneyland.

[Natasha Leggero]

How much did you spend?

[Zack Noe Towers]

Not that much. It was like, I don't know. We went with another family. Maybe 1200 per family.

[Natasha Leggero]

Wow, that's a good deal.

[Unnamed Speaker 2]

And she still got you to the.

[Natasha Leggero]

Front of the line, so 2400.

[Jeff Lewis]

What do we spend?

[Zack Noe Towers]

No, it was less than. It was less than 10,000, you guys. 10,000 you guys got. Do you gu.

[Natasha Leggero]

A.

[Zack Noe Towers]

Do you have a little. A sound bite for. You got ripped off. Nouveau riche. I'm a boss, and I'm surrounded by a bunch of amateur. I mean, think of all the money that I saved to, like, play tennis every day or whatever I want to do, you know? I'm not trying to spend all my. Give all my money to the public.

[Natasha Leggero]

What is it now? 700 an hour?

[Unnamed Speaker 2]

It's like. Yeah. Seven an hour plus the tip, plus 10 tickets.

[Zack Noe Towers]

Did you just say 700 to take people around Disneyland?

[Unnamed Speaker 2]

Yeah.

[Natasha Leggero]

Yeah, but you get right in, you know, go right up to the front, don't wait in line, and you go.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Behind the scenes and stuff.

[Zack Noe Towers]

My woman was awesome, and I know you're gonna want her number after the thing. I don't know if I'm legally allowed to talk about her program because she was very cagey.

[Natasha Leggero]

Yeah. It doesn't sound like I don't want to be in a situation where, you know, the park authorities come over and ask us to leave.

[Zack Noe Towers]

Why not? I feel like you would thrive in.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Actually, Yeah.

[Natasha Leggero]

I do love conflict and being asked to leave.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

You get to leave.

[Zack Noe Towers]

I wish. I. Is it from childhood that you. That you can get. Because, like, my nervous system is not set up for conflict. Like, if conflict happens, like, I get, like, gi. Issues. Like, I'm just like, immediately. I'm such a mod. I'm a modern person. I think we should just be able to work it out. Like, I can't yell at other people, and I've had neighbor issues, and I'm just very inspired by your. By your vitriol. Yeah, it's cool. Like, does that come from childhood?

[Natasha Leggero]

Things are a little different now, so I really. I very much try to start with nice. I also. I tell myself all the time. Is this the hill I want to die on? Normally the answer is yes, and then I will get in an argument. But I do think that people do. A lot of people just, they don't respond to nice. They don't until you push back or, you know, threaten them.

[Zack Noe Towers]

They mistake it for your weakness. I see, Right.

[Natasha Leggero]

I find that my office is more efficient when I'm a little more stern. Don't you agree, Shane?

[Unnamed Speaker 2]

Oh, yeah. Love the stern.

[Zack Noe Towers]

I can't do it. Although I have, I have done it in the past and it has been amazing, thrilling. I've gotten what I wanted. When I had my own show, like an editor was just like, oh, I'm not doing that. And I had, I was listening to Amy Poehler's book and she was talking about standing up. It's just as a woman, sometimes it's hard too. And I was just like, you know what? You wouldn't talk to Blank like that. And I know you worked with him, so I want you to do it. And he did it. And I had never stuck up for myself. And honestly I haven't done it much since. But it was thrilling and I loved it. And I was. And he was, you could see him kind of shaken, you know, like, because he just wasn't used to like, especially me because I just try to appease, you know, with comedians too, A lot of times we're the diffusers, you know, the natural diffusers. We grew up having to diffuse these situations and everyone's fighting and I mean, most comedians you talk to like their parents are divorced. Like there's not just not improvisers, but if you talk to like stand up comedians, like they all come from broken. It only takes a couple minutes. And then you're like, oh, yeah, that happened to you. Or there was a death or you know, like there was just something dark. Like I was reading Tina Fey's autobiography and it's like, you know, you do.

[Natasha Leggero]

A lot of reading, a lot of books for someone who could barely graduate college, you read a lot.

[Zack Noe Towers]

But she was like slashed in the face in, in an alley when she was a kid. Like, you know, it's like that's made up. Anyway, the point is you read long enough and anyone who's really funny, there's something happens.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Christ.

[Zack Noe Towers]

But so anyway, sometimes I find it hard because my natural inclination is to like, handle all the problems and take care of the family and take care of everyone. So it can be hard sometimes also.

[Natasha Leggero]

When you have this little kid like looking up at you like Modeling. You. You. I'm very careful about what I do.

[Jeff Lewis]

In front of her.

[Unnamed Speaker 2]

Oh, but when she leaves the room, she's in school.

[Natasha Leggero]

Thank God she's in school.

[Zack Noe Towers]

My daughter will say so many things to me. And I'm like, who told you that? She's like, you like, she's like, oh, that man has something wrong with his brain. Like, if she sees a homeless person, I'm like, don't say that. Why are you saying that? And she's like, that's what you said about blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, I said that? Like, I can't remember. They ask so many questions and you just have to be kind of like, you're right. Ready?

[Natasha Leggero]

I Google a lot of. Yeah, when she, when she asked me questions because I normally can't answer them.

[Zack Noe Towers]

Well, I try to just tell her.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Oh, I'd be like, ask Tick tock, baby.

[Zack Noe Towers]

Put it in. Tick tock.

[Unnamed Speaker 2]

Ask Chat. GPT.

[Natasha Leggero]

Yeah.

[Zack Noe Towers]

But one thing my daughter said that I don't like at all is she's like, mom, don't ever tell anyone anything I say. And I'm like, she had a knife to your throat.

[Unnamed Speaker 2]

Write a special.

[Zack Noe Towers]

But that's the thing. It's like, now I have my stand up act and I'm like, okay, well, I don't really want to make a special because what if she sees it when she's 12 or when she's 10 and learns how to read at her current school? They don't teach you how to read, like the European way.

[Natasha Leggero]

Oh, so she doesn't know how to read yet, but she could set a beautiful table.

[Zack Noe Towers]

Oh my God, it's amazing the way she folds napkins. She can identify every plant you can eat on a walk. Like, she's just like, she can.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Okay, that actually sounds helpful.

[Zack Noe Towers]

It's cool. But yeah, so it's. It's hard though, because I'm. My husband's just like, oh, I don't take that seriously. Who cares? But then I had a woman open for me once, and she was older than me and she's like, yeah, my kids don't talk to me anymore. And I was like, why? She's like, well, my, my teenagers got really mad about me talking about them on stage. I mean, she wasn't very funny, but still that got in my head and I'm like, oh, my God, you can like mess up your relationship and maybe it's different with mothers and daughters. So anyway, the point is having a child really makes you reevaluate your values and Things change and it's just very challenging. Do you find that?

[Natasha Leggero]

I do, I do, absolutely. Like I said, I'm very careful about what I do and say in front of her. So then I wait for her to leave and then I misbehave or go to school.

[Zack Noe Towers]

You go to her school? Do you volunteer? Do you ever like the paper cut? Like you cut paper?

[Natasha Leggero]

So the funny thing is they said they're. They're doing some sort of auction and I hate this. So they reached out. I donate. So that's what I do. That's my thing. I donate to them. They really shouldn't be asking my thing.

[Unnamed Speaker 2]

I write checks.

[Natasha Leggero]

They shouldn't.

[Jeff Lewis]

They shouldn't be.

[Natasha Leggero]

That's good.

[Zack Noe Towers]

A lot of people can't do that.

[Jeff Lewis]

They shouldn't be asking me to do.

[Natasha Leggero]

Anything because I donate a lot of money, so. But they still do it. So I guess there's some sort of auction coming up and they wanted to auction off the. The chance to come and sit in this radio show and. And I was like, I don't know what to say. Like, I waited a couple days and I just wrote, ugh. I wrote ugh. Oh, g H comma, I'd rather not.

[Zack Noe Towers]

That's good.

[Natasha Leggero]

And that was it. And I was like, you know what?

[Zack Noe Towers]

I'm so honest.

[Unnamed Speaker 2]

Let me write these, please.

[Zack Noe Towers]

Because I would just.

[Unnamed Speaker 2]

Like when he read it out loud, I was like, no, say, hey, I'm sorry. Unfortunately, SiriusXM just don't allow us.

[Natasha Leggero]

Yeah, that's a lie.

[Unnamed Speaker 2]

You could just. First of all, it's actually true.

[Natasha Leggero]

Well, they do charity auctions all the time.

[Unnamed Speaker 2]

They can.

[Natasha Leggero]

Without even asking me.

[Zack Noe Towers]

This is what I would say. Oh, that's so sweet. Let me ask. Let me put you in touch with.

[Natasha Leggero]

But that's a lie. I don't want to do it.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Oh.

[Natasha Leggero]

So I just figure, do I, Do I, Do I ghost? Do I ghost them? That's kind of shitty. So I waited a couple of days. Then I was like, you know what, Jeff? Just be honest.

[Unnamed Speaker 3]

But maybe just. I'd rather not. The ugh is like bothering me.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

But that's how they know it's from Jeff.

[Zack Noe Towers]

True.

[Natasha Leggero]

And they're not gonna ask me again.

[Zack Noe Towers]

That's true. The ugg. He's just got him bought himself five years.

[Jeff Lewis]

I sure do.

[Zack Noe Towers]

The new person comes in or he puts his kid in a nature school.

[Natasha Leggero]

And I think some people do appreciate. I think people do appreciate honesty. I do.

[Unnamed Speaker 2]

They love the ug.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Well, it saves everyone time because the truth is going to come Out. Do you know what I mean? Like whether you had volleyed it back and forth and then canceled on them like before the charity self happen. Do you know what I mean?

[Natasha Leggero]

The other thing, I really, I don't want to do this, but I feel like I need to do this. I'm feeling very compelled that.

[Jeff Lewis]

So they have these moms, these two moms.

[Natasha Leggero]

And every, every year, like they're in charge of fundraising and honestly I think they do a terrible job. And, and they'll speak like in, you know, if there's like a big parent event, they'll speak.

[Zack Noe Towers]

Good thing they don't listen to this.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Yeah, this must get back to them. There is no way these two moms have not been sent a link to this exact moment in the show.

[Natasha Leggero]

No. I told the school, I said, look, I think they're doing a terrible job. I think we can raise a lot. I think we can raise a lot more money because I would.

[Zack Noe Towers]

You said you could do a better job.

[Natasha Leggero]

Yeah, because I think they're too powerful.

[Unnamed Speaker 2]

But that did not offer his services, but just that I could if I wanted to.

[Natasha Leggero]

Cause I would call people out, right? I'd be like, hey, we know Euphoria was picked up for another season, you guys, you have plenty of money.

[Jeff Lewis]

You can donate. So I'll just call people out individually.

[Natasha Leggero]

I think I would be more effective. I think they're too passive.

[Unnamed Speaker 2]

Do you want to host an auction? Is that what you're saying?

[Natasha Leggero]

Not an auction, but what they do is they'll, you know, they go on and I don't know why we were there.

[Jeff Lewis]

Why were we there?

[Natasha Leggero]

There's some sort of kid event.

[Unnamed Speaker 1]

Your daughter goes to school there.

[Natasha Leggero]

Yes, but we were there for some reason.

[Zack Noe Towers]

Some child. I think she was in my Birkin.

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[Natasha Leggero]

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[Natasha Leggero]

Is it true that you used to work in a brothel?

[Zack Noe Towers]

I worked in a brothel in Australia for one day.

[Natasha Leggero]

Would you get fired or quit?

[Zack Noe Towers]

I quit.

[Natasha Leggero]

Why?

[Zack Noe Towers]

Because. Well, I thought it was. It was like the most. The job I found online on, like, it was like a. A newspaper. It was like, you know, $20 an hour to answer calls. But then they wanted me to clean the towels.

[Natasha Leggero]

Oh, God.

[Zack Noe Towers]

And that was a little crispy, crunchy towels. Yeah. And the girls were so funny. Like, the girl who was training me, she would just be like, held on, we got a hair. Harry Mary on line three. Like, she knew, like, every type. It was like, I can't do an Australian accent, but, like, they had all these, like, nicknames.

[Natasha Leggero]

Tell me the nicknames.

[Jeff Lewis]

What's a hairy Mary?

[Zack Noe Towers]

A guy who wants a big pussy. I don't know, like a bushy pussy or something. And then we would. It was actually, it was a. Because prostitution's legal there. So they would walk. My job would be to walk the businessmen into this room. And all the girls were there with, like, their little numbers on. And then they were just like, eating cake and drinking champagne. And then the guy would tell me which one he wanted to take upstairs. Wow. And then I would have to tell the girl. And you could just see they were kind of like hanging out, doing this for the day.

[Natasha Leggero]

What numbers were most popular?

[Zack Noe Towers]

I only worked there for one day.

[Natasha Leggero]

I don't remember that day.

[Zack Noe Towers]

Let's say three.

[Natasha Leggero]

Wow, she was hot.

[Jeff Lewis]

Three.

[Zack Noe Towers]

Does that help you? No, I don't remember the numbers, but I just.

[Natasha Leggero]

What number were you?

[Zack Noe Towers]

I mean, I. I was just there facilitating.

[Natasha Leggero]

You wanted to be a number.

[Zack Noe Towers]

This is part of a longer story where I got abducted. By a con artist and taken to Australia. I was with this older man.

[Natasha Leggero]

I dated a con artist a few years ago.

[Zack Noe Towers]

You did a few years ago. See, I was so happy when it happened to me because I was like, oh, I'm young. This isn't going to happen when I'm old.

[Natasha Leggero]

Yep.

[Zack Noe Towers]

But it happened to you as an adult. Well, not old, but you know.

[Natasha Leggero]

Thanks for listening.

[Jeff Lewis]

If you want more of this, listen to Jeff Lewis Live every weekday on SiriusXM as well as the Jeff Lewis Channel exclusively on the SiriusXM app.

[Unnamed Speaker 5]

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