Patrik Simpson & Pol Atteu: Road Rage & Followers

Summary

Podcast Summary

Podcast: Jeff Lewis Has Issues
Episode: Patrik Simpson & Pol Atteu: Road Rage & Followers
Date: May 1, 2026
Host: Jeff Lewis
Guests: Patrik Simpson & Pol Atteu

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Episode Overview

This episode delves deep into the high-profile, bizarre, and traumatic road-rage incident involving LA personalities Patrik Simpson and Pol Atteu, touching on the aftermath—including media coverage, legal action, and emotional effects. The conversation also spills into their ongoing careers, personal trauma, pet therapy, and plenty of signature Jeff Lewis humor.

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Key Discussion Points

1. The Road Rage Incident (01:21–15:00)

• Setting the Stage

  • Patrik and Pol revisit the recent road rage incident that occurred in Jeff’s prospective neighborhood.
  • Jeff jokes about his own “drama magnet” reputation.

• Patrik & Pol’s Account

  • The duo firmly claims they were innocent, describing themselves as “two innocent guys… just chilling like villains” on their way to charity (05:50).
  • A man (later identified as Kevin Antonio Hernandez) cut them off, boxed them in, and approached their car “with rage in his face” (07:00).
  • Patrik told Pol to lock the doors and called the police. They had little time to react (07:34).
  • The attacker allegedly has a criminal record and a pattern of false claims—he “calls the police and says ‘they pulled a gun on me’,” flipping the situation (10:10).
  • “When you see somebody coming at you with rage, there’s something else that happens to your body that I never experienced before.” —Paul (23:37)

• Aftermath

  • The attacker was later confronted by police and now has a restraining order against him (09:55).
  • Their building and neighborhood suffered further incidents—tagging, a neighbor’s break-in, and theft soon after (13:41).

• Trauma & Legal Action

  • Pol and Patrik are pursuing both criminal charges and civil restitution for $10,000 worth of car damage (19:15, 19:51).
  • “He hit the window so hard that his knuckles were bleeding on our window. It was really, really crazy.” —Patrick (12:17)

2. The Attacker’s Side—A Wild Call-In (15:13–18:27)

• Surprise Call from “Kevin Antonio Hernandez”
  • The man in question calls in, paints a confused narrative about “taking his infant to an emergency room,” accuses the duo of flipping him off, jokes about buying a quinceañera dress from them, and (mock-)apologizes.
  • “No more fighting. Let’s just let bygones be bygones. But I gotta go back to work—I’m a physician, so I’m on call right now.” —Kevin (17:54)
  • The mood is cutting and absurd, with the hosts and guests not taking his story seriously.

3. Emotional Fallout—Living with Repeated Trauma (20:24–25:32)

• The discussion moves to their recurring experiences: attacks, robberies, being targeted as public figures, and Pol’s tendency to be in the “wrong place at the wrong time.”
• “We don’t look for this. It just kind of happens.” —Patrick (24:51)
• “You can’t be this pretty and not get in trouble.” —Paul (39:52)

4. On Social Media, Public Perception & Careers (41:48–49:19)

• Both recount the increased attention after the incident and the effect on their business and public profiles.
• Discussion of high social media follower counts—Patrik’s 204k to Pol’s 118k—leads to banter about buying followers and the effect of “naked” content (47:49; 48:06).
• Pol describes hosting “coffee reads”—psychic or intuitive readings—and the idea of tipping as a new income stream (42:04).
• Tour announcement: Coffee Read Summer Tour, 10 US cities, starting in June (46:57).

5. Lighter Moments, Quotes, and Running Jokes

• On PR and Spin:
  • “Now, what I’ve noticed about liars is that their story always changes a bit… Pay attention to the inconsistencies.” —Jeff (08:33)
• On Trauma Responses:
  • Paul describes always sitting with his back to the wall after the incident (31:37).
• Recurring Humor:
  • Joking about appearances, funerals, and “what would you wear if I died?” (33:09)
  • Multiple mentions of pet Snow White, including her own trauma therapy (45:24).

6. Business Plugs, Housekeeping, and Showbiz Updates

• Pol designed a reunion dress for Sutton Brown, and the episode covers the last-minute design scramble—showing the interconnected LA and Bravo reality world (49:24–50:50).
• Patrik’s new acting gig: required nudity in a scripted series, leading to running gags about full-frontal scenes and “intimacy coordinators” (02:55–03:56).

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Notable Quotes & Moments with Timestamps

• “We’re just chilling like villains… driving on Melrose on your way to true volunteer charity.” —Paul (05:50)
• “He picked up the phone, started already recording… You freeze in this moment not knowing exactly what’s going to happen.” —Paul (07:00)
• “That was the difference. The lie detector determined… that was a lie.” —Paul (20:21)
• “I hope it’s a closed set.” —Jeff (04:10) [about nude filming]
• “She has a pet therapist that we are taking her to.” —Patrick (45:24)
• “But you know what? It happens to a lot of people. It’s really, I mean, we live in LA. I love LA.” —Paul (25:00)
• “It's a circumstance. You can't be this pretty and not get in trouble.” —Paul (39:52)
• “He hit the window so hard that his knuckles were bleeding on our window.” —Patrick (12:17)
• “The attacker… cracked our window, was punching at my head, and the air just left the inside chamber of the car.” —Paul (11:42)
• “No more fighting, bro. Let bygones be bygones.” —‘Kevin’ [Attacker] (17:54)
• “My Instagram really jumped when I was in Croatia on that naughty tour, the Boat Party.” —Patrick (48:00)

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Segment Timestamps

• [01:21] Show starts, introductions, and overview
• [02:00–15:00] Road rage story: full recounting by Pol and Patrik
• [15:13–18:27] Call-in from the alleged attacker (“Kevin Antonio Hernandez”)
• [19:10–20:56] Damage to the car, legal actions, pursuing restitution
• [23:37–25:00] Emotional trauma, recurring victimization, and past incidents
• [31:37] PTSD and Pol’s hypervigilance habits
• [41:48–49:19] Social media, business updates, and coffee reads
• [49:19–50:56] Designing for Sutton, last-minute drama
• [50:56] Wrapping up and plugs

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Additional Highlights

• Charity Mention: The Best Buddies Walk for Down syndrome is coming up, with Pol and Patrik participating (30:44).
• Fan Interactions: Issues with the public entering promo codes incorrectly, leading to jokes about the “chumps” (36:35).
• Pet Focus: Their dog Snow White’s trauma, well-being, and therapy are discussed with caller concern (45:17–45:45).
• Dentist Drama: Jameson’s ongoing “dental hell” and insurance headaches become a comic subplot (33:48–36:11).

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Tone & Language

Jeff Lewis’ hosting style remains humorous, fast-paced, and cheekily self-aware, with Pol and Patrik matching his banter, frequently leaning into sarcasm and camp comedy despite genuine stress and trauma.

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Summary Takeaways

• The episode offers both a dramatic real-life narrative about being a “target” in LA and a satirical look at fame, media, and the absurdity of modern incidents involving reality TV personalities.
• Legal drama, trauma, and public perception intermingle with career updates and pointed, personal humor.
• Through their retelling, Pol and Patrik both reinforce the seriousness of violent incidents and the bizarre resiliency—and at times, opportunism—required to turn misfortune into new opportunities and content.

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Transcript

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[Podcast Host]

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[Jameson]

Liberty.

[Podcast Host]

Liberty.

[Jeff Lewis]

When you're Jeff Lewis, the drama never stops.

[Podcast Host]

They said that I am by far the most difficult talent that they're working with. You know, we could say we don't judge. I judge. And I was judging. Money doesn't make you an asshole. But if you're an asshole and with a ton of money, you're gonna be a bigger asshole.

[Patrick]

Why are you looking at me?

[Podcast Host]

No, I didn't. I didn't mean to. I didn't mean to look in that direction. Why did you look right at me?

[Paul]

Jeff Lewis has issues.

[Podcast Host]

Hey, welcome to Jeff Lewis has Issues. In today's episode, Patrik Simpson and Pola II join the show. We talk about road rage, trauma, dental drama, and buying social media followers. Welcome back, guys. It's been a while.

[Paul]

Good morning.

[Podcast Host]

How are you?

[Patrick]

Call the police. Oh, Jameson, lock the door.

[Podcast Host]

How are you guys doing? For those of you that live under a rock and do not know, you both were involved in a terribly traumatic, traumatic road rage incident several weeks back.

[Paul]

I think you need to move, Jeff, before you move into that house. It happened around the corner from your new place. Yeah.

[Patrick]

It's in your neighborhood.

[Paul]

Yeah. I don't know if you want to drive down that street.

[Podcast Host]

I'm not worried at all. I'm not going to cut anyone off and flip them off.

[Paul]

Oh, yeah, okay.

[Podcast Host]

So, no, I don't. I'm a very good, considerate driver.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah, you're safe.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. So I'm not worried about any sort of road rage incidents.

[Paul]

Is that how it happens when they break into people's houses and then they take their cars. Oh, okay.

[Guest/Producer]

At least you're not a famous gay reality star.

[Paul]

Yeah, you're not.

[Podcast Host]

True.

[Patrick]

Excuse me, I need to hyphen it. It's not just reality star. It's now actor.

[Paul]

Thank you.

[Patrick]

Great point.

[Podcast Host]

That's right.

[Guest/Producer]

Scripted and unscripted.

[Podcast Host]

Now we should talk about all this publicity that you've had has been good for business because you just booked a new role in a six episode television series.

[Patrick]

I did.

[Guest/Producer]

Congratulations.

[Podcast Host]

Where. Now this is the exciting part, everybody.

[Patrick]

Oh, God.

[Podcast Host]

It is. You are required to be nude.

[Patrick]

Yes, I'm a nude roommate.

[Paul]

He's naked.

[Podcast Host]

Full frontal.

[Patrick]

Well, I'm gonna wear, like shorts. Like I'm gonna make.

[Paul]

Yeah, like I'm gonna make him like little briefs.

[Patrick]

Like nude short.

[Paul]

I don't need to see that.

[Podcast Host]

So this is. It's like a horror film of some kind.

[Patrick]

Yes, it is. Yes.

[Paul]

Body horror.

[Patrick]

I've been hitting the gym a lot.

[Podcast Host]

Tie.

[Paul]

Tie Me up in the Basement.

[Guest/Producer]

It's the sequel to the Substance of Substance.

[Paul]

Yeah, that was good.

[Patrick]

I like that.

[Paul]

Hopefully he'll morph into something.

[Podcast Host]

So you got to hit the gym because you're going to be completely naked.

[Patrick]

Yeah, but.

[Podcast Host]

Because Keon said that you have to do full frontal. But then now you're saying you're going to wear some sort of bikini.

[Paul]

No, it is full.

[Patrick]

It's.

[Paul]

It's.

[Patrick]

It's a full frontal thing. Like they'll be shooting me in the front. But you can't.

[Paul]

It's.

[Patrick]

You have to wear a flesh color.

[Paul]

Yeah. Because there's going to be a. What do they call those people again?

[Podcast Host]

Zombies?

[Patrick]

No.

[Jameson]

Fluffer.

[Patrick]

Intimacy coordinator. I don't need a fluffer.

[Paul]

They don't need. They don't want all that. How did you know? He does all day long. I do. Oh, my God. That's insane.

[Podcast Host]

I hope it's a closed set.

[Guest/Producer]

Extremely close.

[Patrick]

Like, not recorded.

[Paul]

Oh, my God. I'm gonna have to get behind the scenes. I'm gonna have to do like, little behind us.

[Patrick]

This will be fun.

[Podcast Host]

I was expecting, after, you know, all of these articles that I've been reading about you too, that you'd have some sort of PR people with you today.

[Paul]

We do.

[Patrick]

We did.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Patrick]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

You guys really pushed out that story.

[Guest/Producer]

Got some good pickup.

[Paul]

We didn't push anything. We didn't do anything.

[Patrick]

They picked it up.

[Paul]

They called me when I was at the event and they're like, we want to do an interview. I'm like, who are you? How'd you get my number? Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

So why don't you explain now, when was this? When was. Was the. The date of it? It was. It three weeks ago.

[Guest/Producer]

I remember like it was yesterday.

[Paul]

It was. It was Palm Sunday, March 39, 28. And let me tell you the real story. Because I know that Todd worked very hard with his reputation, people to try to get this story. But he doesn't know.

[Patrick]

You mean to create the bullshit.

[Paul]

Yes. And I don't want to throw Keyan under the bus, but he admitted to some stuff yesterday. But, you know, the dogs were. There were no dogs in the car. He did not flip anybody off. There was no such thing. We were not on the road at the same time. I was driving on the road early in the morning. And I'm going to the, you know, the museum with the kids. And we're having.

[Patrick]

We were gonna do charity.

[Paul]

Yeah, we were.

[Patrick]

We were gonna do charity. We were gonna hang out with the.

[Paul]

Patrick, the kids. You're talking buddies, Patrick. You're talking to Jeff. He doesn't understand what that means.

[Guest/Producer]

Who's Charity?

[Podcast Host]

So here you are, just two innocent guys.

[Paul]

We're just chilling like villains. Driving on Melrose on your way to

[Guest/Producer]

charity safely Driving True volunteer.

[Paul]

And you know when I started driving Melrose. Because when I was at Fairfax, I was driving Melrose. Cause that was like the easiest way to go.

[Guest/Producer]

Side of the incident.

[Paul]

And even coming here to the studio, I would just drive Melrose. So I'm driving Melrose and then all of a sudden I'm at the light. I've stopped at other lights before and I'm at the light. So a car pulls up in front of us very abruptly. And I thought, okay, great. Maybe something happened to these people. Maybe something went wrong. So it was a minute or like a minute and ten seconds. Because the police have all these records now that we didn't even videotape. Cause we thought there was something going on with their car. And I'm like, okay, well, the light's still red. I mean, what's going to happen? They'll figure it out. It's 9:30 in the morning. There's nobody on the road. Guess what happened.

[Podcast Host]

What?

[Paul]

He goes to the back, he opens up his door.

[Kevin Antonio Hernandez]

Yeah.

[Paul]

When he opens up his door and goes to the back of the car, I thought, hmm, I wonder what is like a flat tire. Like you're going to get something.

[Patrick]

I'm like, I thought he was looking for something.

[Paul]

He was looking for something. Yeah. And then when he turned around and looked at us with this rage in his face and Started storming the car. He picked up the phone and started already recording. Taping.

[Patrick]

Yeah.

[Paul]

And I'm like, just record. I just, you know, you freeze in this moment not knowing exactly what's going to happen. I look in my rearview mirror, there's a car. I look to the side of me. The guy goes, I don't know what's going on. I look to the other right side of me, and I'm like, there's a building. I can't go anywhere. And the way he blocked all the entire intersection is nobody can go.

[Patrick]

But I knew something was up. So I told him, lock the door. Because I knew something was definitely up.

[Podcast Host]

Call the police.

[Patrick]

I said that afterwards. Yes, I did. I can.

[Paul]

Thank God we did. You know what? Thank God we did.

[Patrick]

And everybody can listen to the full account on Undressed with Paul and Patrick's episode.

[Podcast Host]

Of course they can.

[Paul]

Do you know that the police have the recording? He wasn't even on the road. And I asked the police, I said, what did I do? Like, did I do something to deserve this? Like, tell me, what do you, what

[Podcast Host]

do you two ever do to deserve these things?

[Paul]

I don't know. I have no idea.

[Podcast Host]

The bad, I mean, it's just like bad luck, misfortune, something happened. Dramatic events just seem to be drawn to you.

[Patrick]

It's a little crazy, right?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. It's not like you chase them at all. It's.

[Paul]

No, no, he chased us.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. No, I mean, these events, you don't chase these events at all. You don't look for these things. They just happen to you.

[Patrick]

I think it's just a calamity. Just happens. I don't get it.

[Paul]

You know, some people, they just, they just don't understand our love on a Sunday morning as we're cruising down the boulevard. I don't know.

[Podcast Host]

So you maintain. Now, what I've noticed about liars is that their story always changes a bit. So if you keep asking enough and enough enough, you gotta pay attention to the inconsistencies.

[Guest/Producer]

They forget the detail.

[Paul]

So what happened to the dogs?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, I, I, I'm not, I'm not. I don't know. I haven't talked to Kevin yet. I'd like to get Kevin, Antonio Hernandez, on the show to tell his side of the story.

[Paul]

Well, he's got a restraining order.

[Patrick]

Y.

[Podcast Host]

Well, we don't plan to.

[Paul]

The DA is.

[Podcast Host]

He's going to be a regular.

[Paul]

The DA has actually got. The DA has stepped in. He's done this to other people. And I think.

[Podcast Host]

And so have you.

[Paul]

That's call the police. Jameson, where's security at in here? But it's interesting to know. You know, it's like a carjacking. You know how they come and do carjackings?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, they.

[Paul]

They point a gun, they point something at you. You don't know what to do. You just relinquish everything.

[Podcast Host]

All right?

[Paul]

And then you walk away from it. It's just like, all jokes aside.

[Podcast Host]

All jokes aside, you maintain that this was completely unprovoked. It is possible this guy could have either been trying to rob you or trying to carjack you. That is a possibility. What car were you in? Were you in the loaner car?

[Paul]

We were in the loaner Mercedes.

[Patrick]

Yeah, but, you know, he lives on Melrose and we drive.

[Podcast Host]

How do you know he lives on Melrose?

[Patrick]

Because when we posted the video, everybody reached out. They all sent messages. And then the police knew who he was, too. They knew exactly what apartment he lived in on Melrose. So we pass his house every single day.

[Paul]

Jeff, the guy has a record.

[Podcast Host]

I was going to ask you that. He has a criminal record.

[Patrick]

Yes. And he's done the same thing before

[Paul]

and he's done this? Yes. Yeah. And what he does.

[Podcast Host]

What has he been convicted of in the past?

[Patrick]

They won't tell us.

[Paul]

They can't tell us that one. I don't know specifically, but it's in similar to stealing or whatever it is sort of a thing. But the last time he did this, he's the one that called the police. So what he does is he goes, it's intimidating. He calls the police and he says, they pulled a gun on me. The police show up, and then he's like, oh, I'm protecting my family. And the guy's like, I don't have a gun. Like, I don't know where this came out from. They get all the video surveillance, they find out that the other guy doesn't have a gun. He's got one. The other guy doesn't have a gun. And then you have to retain an attorney, go through all the hoops of being able to recover for your own life. Right. So that you can get back on track.

[Podcast Host]

What is his motive in doing that?

[Paul]

I don't know.

[Patrick]

We don't know.

[Paul]

Steel Rock.

[Patrick]

We really don't know.

[Paul]

The car is not in his name. Where he lives is not in his name.

[Patrick]

The only thing I could think of is that kids that were in the car somehow targeted. And I think that he either was going to break in, rob us. We don't know. I really don't know, but the whole situation was very, very. It was very scary.

[Paul]

I think we looked at. All jokes aside, the glass didn't break.

[Podcast Host]

It's a little bit of a ruse, but you two do look affluent. So I could see. I could see why someone would want to rob you.

[Paul]

I'm gonna tell you something. Our car. Our car is tinted windows. And I'm gonna get him extra, more tinted, extra tint.

[Podcast Host]

But you have to. You guys are so famous now.

[Paul]

This car had no tints. You could see right through the loner. And I think if there was a tint, I would have felt like when. See, when he punched a window, he wasn't punching the glass. He was punching my head. And so where you sit in the car and where he was punching the window, he was aiming at my head. And the entire air on the entire. In the inside chamber just decimated. It just left.

[Podcast Host]

So he did what we all want to do.

[Paul]

Yes.

[Patrick]

Okay, Jeff. He hit the window so hard that his knuckles were bleeding on our window. It was really, really crazy.

[Paul]

And the police said, $10,000 later. I'm like, are you kidding me? Why $10,000?

[Jameson]

I mean, in your defense, it's scary enough to have someone come up to your car. The way he hit that window with a lot of force.

[Paul]

I mean, he hoped that thing was

[Jameson]

gonna break, I would imagine. And that's terrifying.

[Patrick]

And I'm glad that I recorded it, because you know what the police said, this happens a lot to a lot of people. And if I did not record it,

[Podcast Host]

they wouldn't have done anything.

[Patrick]

They would have never found him. They would have never got it. Now the DA has filed charges against him because now they know.

[Paul]

Yeah, now they. Because here's the other thing. They've had our video. Then they've gotten all the videos from where I exited the freeway to where it happened. So all of Melrose is covered, even in front of where he lived.

[Patrick]

He was never behind us. He wasn't driving on the road behind us. He just came up driving on the wrong side of the road, came in front of us and cut us off and just trapped us at the intersection.

[Podcast Host]

I bet he regrets messing with you queens because you. Because you out crazy him. You out crazy him. He had no idea what he was dealing with.

[Paul]

Could you believe? He's like, go get him. I'm like, you want my life to be in more danger than it already was? He's like, go get him.

[Jameson]

Are you concerned about retaliation from him?

[Patrick]

Yeah, that's why we were restraining order.

[Podcast Host]

I'm Sorry. You had.

[Paul]

I think. Well, they're investigating it because the Sunday after we had the building tagged, the gate tagged. The alarm goes off at 6:36,45.

[Patrick]

Correct.

[Paul]

And then we called to neighbors, and we're like, okay, so what's going on? Like, this is weird. And it was.

[Patrick]

Oh, Maurice. And he was gone. He was in Marina Del Rey.

[Paul]

It was a thing Sunday. It was Easter Sunday.

[Patrick]

Yep.

[Paul]

And so they said it was a gang that wrote, like, a bunch of things on the gate. I don't know what it is, because I took a picture and sent it to them. And then they broke into our neighbor's

[Patrick]

home, the house right next to our.

[Paul]

Because they couldn't get into the building same day. So. Because we share an alley. So they went inside his gate, went inside his house, and then they stole a gun from it.

[Podcast Host]

I'm like, that could be an isolated.

[Paul]

It could be.

[Patrick]

We don't know.

[Paul]

But I dare investigate.

[Patrick]

But I also will say Doug was awesome because we called Doug because we were at my dad's. Doug. Yeah. So we called him, and he like. He's like, I'm in the shower, but I'll get out and I will. I promise. He drove over to the building to check it for us, so we didn't have to drive all the way in from Orange County. That was really cool of him.

[Paul]

He went down the street.

[Podcast Host]

That's very nice.

[Paul]

Went down the alley and called us and goes, doug's a great name.

[Podcast Host]

It's good because he's always home.

[Patrick]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

No, you can always count on him.

[Patrick]

No, we. The other day, he had left the front door open, and I don't. He's like, oh, I want to air. I want air.

[Paul]

Fresh air.

[Patrick]

And I don't know why he's leaving our front door open. And we were. Had just gotten back from New York, and so Doug calls me and he goes, are you guys still in New York? Because your front door is wide open.

[Podcast Host]

I don't know how this happened because we did not arrange this, but line 11, allegedly is Kevin Antonio Hernandez.

[Kevin Antonio Hernandez]

Buenos dias. What's up, Trump? Shout out. Shane.

[Guest/Producer]

Oh, shout out.

[Jameson]

Kev.

[Paul]

Good morning.

[Podcast Host]

Hi, Kevin.

[Paul]

I'm not allowed to talk to you. Kevin, we have a restraining order against you.

[Patrick]

Is this a violation of the restraining order calling in? I think so, yes.

[Paul]

Call the police.

[Kevin Antonio Hernandez]

It was a big J.

[Patrick]

Said, lock the door.

[Kevin Antonio Hernandez]

Hey. Hey, you. Listen, listen, guys, this is a big misunderstanding. We have to figure this out. Jeff, I got it. Jeff, Jeff. Jeff, please. Jeff. Cut off their mics.

[Podcast Host]

Cut off Their mics for a second, please. Yes, sorry, Kevin, we have cut off their mics.

[Kevin Antonio Hernandez]

They drive me local. Hey, listen, here's the deal. I didn't know it was two dudes. I thought it was two little ladies driving.

[Paul]

Oh, Jesus.

[Kevin Antonio Hernandez]

I thought it was a grandpa teaching, you know, the grandma teaching his granddaughter how to drive. And what happened was. Hey. God, those two are so loud. Hey, listen, I was, you know, I basically, I was trying to take my infant baby to the emergency room and they cut me off and I couldn't move my car. And so when I came over, I was like, why is this little 12 year old girl driving? And then it. And then they got all crazy. They were like flipping me off. It was nuts. And then like the cops came. But I got mad, you know, I lost my cool. So I just want to say I'm sorry, Patrick and Paul, you know, listen, in fact, I was hoping maybe you guys could help design a dress for my daughter's quinceanera.

[Patrick]

I can't. I fucking can't. I just literally fucking can't.

[Kevin Antonio Hernandez]

I see a lot of your dresses, like, at Goodwill, you know, people get rid of them. And I figured, hell, I know those two gays. I know the guys. I know those two. Those two guys. And maybe they'll do a dress for me. And they have that little dog, too. Boy, that thing is halfway to death. That thing is muerta. Anyway, listen, listen. Hey, Patrick, I'm full. Like, listen, no, no more fighting, bro. No more fighting. Let's just let bygones be bygones. But I gotta go back to work. I'm a. I'm a physician, so I'm on call right now.

[Paul]

I'll see you in court, May 5th.

[Patrick]

Yeah.

[Paul]

Kevin, until.

[Podcast Host]

Thank you, Kevin. I appreciate your.

[Kevin Antonio Hernandez]

Okay. Oh, hey, wait. Hey, wait. One more thing. I. I got something very important to tell Patrick and Paul.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah,

[Patrick]

I. I just can't.

[Podcast Host]

I actually.

[Paul]

Oh, my God.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[Guest/Producer]

He sounds like a good man.

[Paul]

He sounds like a. Wow.

[Podcast Host]

He made a mistake.

[Paul]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

And he apologized. He wants to buy a dress.

[Paul]

Yeah, from Goodwill to have him.

[Podcast Host]

It's been a long time since someone's wanted to buy a dress.

[Paul]

I know.

[Podcast Host]

So this can be good, huh?

[Paul]

Sutton. Sutton actually tried to revitalize my career. As a matter of fact. Thank.

[Patrick]

Thanks for that.

[Podcast Host]

Even Sutton can't help.

[Guest/Producer]

That's a lot of press this year.

[Paul]

Wow. Oh, my God.

[Podcast Host]

So was there damage to the loaner car?

[Paul]

Yeah, about 10,000.

[Patrick]

$10,000. Over $10,000 from the kicks? Yes.

[Paul]

It buckled the way he kicked it, apparently. I guess there's like, airbags inside or whatever in those cars, and all of that is damaged. Plus when the sensors.

[Patrick]

Everything has to be done.

[Paul]

It buckled. Like, the thing is buckled. So they have to, like, you can't just.

[Podcast Host]

Do you two receive any sort of, like, medical compensation or anything like that?

[Paul]

No, we weren't. No, medically.

[Podcast Host]

And then after the May 5th court date.

[Patrick]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

If he's criminally charged, will you follow up with the civil lawsuit?

[Paul]

He has to have a civil law.

[Patrick]

Yeah, of course.

[Paul]

It's part the da.

[Patrick]

Part of already. Absolutely.

[Podcast Host]

He has to.

[Paul]

You have to. Because my insurance has to pay for all the expenses now. Correct. I'm paying for everything now. Until I'm able to get restitution, I can't go through his insurance.

[Podcast Host]

So you're looking for restitution?

[Paul]

Well, because. To pay for.

[Patrick]

Well, we should. Of course.

[Paul]

No, to pay for the car.

[Podcast Host]

Right.

[Paul]

To pay for all the filings for the attorney's fees, all this stuff. Because I can't do it on my own. There's no way.

[Podcast Host]

In addition to being reimbursed for the. For the loaner car and whatever attorney's fees you've incurred, you also would like restitution.

[Paul]

Well, the restitution is all of that. So there's no money for me? No, there's no money for me? There isn't. Because he didn't really touch us specifically as an example. That was the difference. The lie detector determined. That was a lie.

[Patrick]

Thank you.

[Podcast Host]

There's a movie that I. Years and years ago, it was like with Steve Martin. It was called Dirty Rotten Scandal. Scoundrel.

[Paul]

Scoundrel. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Podcast Host]

You guys should do a reality TV version of that.

[Paul]

Oh, my God.

[Patrick]

That's a great idea.

[Guest/Producer]

Yeah, it's on Amazon.

[Podcast Host]

My guess is there's some sort of compensation coming your way. That is my guess.

[Guest/Producer]

Well, it's pain and suffering.

[Patrick]

Well, there should be, because we were really traumatized. It was very, very, very difficult.

[Podcast Host]

Let's talk about that for a second. Because you were upset with Keyian that he never called and checked on you, right, Patrick?

[Paul]

I was. No, no, I was.

[Patrick]

I didn't talk to Keon, so I have no idea. What are you talking about?

[Paul]

I wasn't mad at him at all. I just said, oh, you're calling me to do your job?

[Podcast Host]

Did you get a little attitude for them yesterday during the pre interview?

[Patrick]

I didn't talk to him, so how did I get an attitude?

[Guest/Producer]

Maybe that was the attitude.

[Paul]

No, he called me salty. I'M like, don't categorize me.

[Podcast Host]

Like, everybody else was physically injured in this altercation. Was there anything emotionally?

[Paul]

Yes.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, but no. I'm asking for, like, physically.

[Patrick]

No.

[Podcast Host]

So you didn't go to hospital?

[Paul]

No.

[Podcast Host]

You weren't treated for any sort of injury?

[Paul]

No. I'm gonna go right after the show. I'm about to go. Could you, could you.

[Podcast Host]

No, because I'm just, I mean, why would he need to check on you right if there wasn't any sort of physical injuries?

[Paul]

That was what I, you know.

[Patrick]

What did you say something about him checking on us?

[Paul]

Because I know I didn't. What police said. What police said is this happens a lot when there's women and children in the car. Because you have a child in the car. They just, them walking up to the car, people are petrified and they're throwing their bags like, here, take my bag. And trying to, like, run away.

[Patrick]

Every day you turn on the news and you see people are being robbed, houses are being broken into.

[Podcast Host]

No, I just YouTube broken into. That's the only store that they're running right now.

[Patrick]

Cars are broken into. So I'm glad that we brought attention to this because it's a real serious problem.

[Paul]

It is, apparently.

[Podcast Host]

Do you think he saw that sweet little Snow White thinking she's sweet and thought these two are vulnerable because they've this, they have this, you know, I, I. Gorgeous.

[Paul]

I've been thinking, I've been thinking, yes,

[Patrick]

and I can tell. Everybody get a snow boo boo paula2.com and you'll get your own.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, actually, I do want to talk about that. We should mention that there's been a lot of DMs to L. Jeff Lewis as well as, and I'm sure you've received DMs too, Jameson, about people wanting to return the snow boo boos and wanting to get their money back. And I called the number on the box. Do we have that?

[Jeff Lewis]

Sorry, you have reached a number that has been disconnected or is no longer in service.

[Paul]

No, White's not answering any calls right now.

[Podcast Host]

There's a lot of returns. So where do people go to get their money back and return these snow

[Patrick]

boo boos www.pollato.com and then you can use the code JEFF20 and get $20 off for another snow boo boo purchase.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, I don't think that's the point of that haul. I don't think they want a second one. I think they want to return the first one.

[Patrick]

And while they're at it, they can book a coffee read. Use Jeff 10 for coffee.

[Podcast Host]

Read.

[Patrick]

He's back to doing coffee reads.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, good. You had you to pay the attorney's

[Patrick]

fees, had to take a little break

[Podcast Host]

and to pay for the loaner car and the mortgage.

[Paul]

No, but you know what, Jeff? I don't wish this on anybody. It's a different. See, when I got beaten up and he came up from behind me, I didn't see what happened. So I wasn't faced with the fear. When you see somebody coming at you with rage, there's something else that happens to your body that I never experienced before that I thought.

[Podcast Host]

But you did in 2024. Because you were attacked in 24 as well, right? You were attacked in 24 and 26.

[Paul]

No, I wasn't attacked in 24.

[Podcast Host]

I thought that you were.

[Patrick]

Oh, not 24. I robbed.

[Podcast Host]

That was in 20.

[Paul]

But he was. But he was 20.

[Patrick]

You were right in the hate crime. That was like 20, 2019. That was like 2019.

[Podcast Host]

2019.

[Paul]

He got arrested. I mean, he got. Went to jail and stuff like that in 2024. It took like five years to be able to get him to accept the crime and all that.

[Podcast Host]

The robbery in Amsterdam. There was an attack in Amsterdam?

[Patrick]

Yes.

[Podcast Host]

There was the attack at the fashion show. There was the attack on Melrose?

[Guest/Producer]

Yes.

[Podcast Host]

There was the robbery of the Beverly Hills store in 2020.

[Patrick]

Yes.

[Guest/Producer]

Did your house get broken into?

[Paul]

Yes, three times.

[Guest/Producer]

And you got hit by the car?

[Paul]

Of course. Yeah, he did a couple times.

[Podcast Host]

They've had a couple accidents.

[Paul]

Melrose is not worked out.

[Patrick]

But I was run over by a car.

[Podcast Host]

Life is not working out.

[Patrick]

It's kind of like. It's kind of like we don't look for this. It just kind of happens.

[Paul]

But you know what? It happens to a lot of people. It's really. I mean, we live in la. I love la.

[Podcast Host]

Well, it doesn't happen that often. I mean, I don't. I don't think people have like seven incidents in five years.

[Guest/Producer]

No, I mean that.

[Podcast Host]

I mean, you guys, every eight months.

[Paul]

I mean. Okay, so. But. But listen to this. We have a store. It's an open public space. We're with public people all the time. We're out in the open.

[Podcast Host]

See, Shane, you're not. I don't want people.

[Guest/Producer]

I don't take public.

[Paul]

I don't take Ubers.

[Patrick]

Everywhere.

[Paul]

I drive my own self everywhere.

[Podcast Host]

I park the car so real.

[Paul]

I park the car because I want to take Snow White for a tinkle. I should be able to do this. Correct.

[Podcast Host]

She can still tinkle. On her own of course. Oh no catheter or anything she's not wearing.

[Paul]

Depends. Like you yet?

[Podcast Host]

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[Paul]

Oh, that's interesting. I hadn't thought about that.

[Patrick]

No, I'm kind of thinking about maybe a movie the week.

[Podcast Host]

I'm thinking you just, you guys are all. You both are just so altruistic. I mean, especially after hearing about the charity work on Sundays. I just thought, oh, this could be a really nice contribution to the world.

[Patrick]

Oh yeah, we're doing the 30 on Saturday. We're doing the Best Buddies walk on Saturday.

[Paul]

On Saturday.

[Podcast Host]

What's the Best Buddies walk?

[Patrick]

We're gonna walk with the down syndrome. The kids From Downs who have down syndrome and Best buddies.

[Paul]

That's an organization in Long Beach.

[Patrick]

We take. We have to walk a mile. We can't walk farther than a mile.

[Paul]

Yeah, so we're gonna walk a mile.

[Guest/Producer]

We walk in a circle.

[Patrick]

In a mile.

[Podcast Host]

This is not a charity you two are running, right?

[Patrick]

No.

[Paul]

Oh, no, no, no.

[Patrick]

But it's a huge charity.

[Podcast Host]

Okay, good. Okay. So you're just volunteering? You're not involved, finances or.

[Paul]

Oh, we should be.

[Podcast Host]

The fundraising or anything like that.

[Jameson]

This was the podcast you were on, right?

[Patrick]

Yeah, one of them.

[Paul]

They're part of it, yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Now, I'm curious, because you were saying that while you were at the police station pole, you were, again, so brave getting on Instagram and, you know, sharing your experience with us. You said that you. When you were standing at the counter, you felt very vulnerable, so you would turn your ass around.

[Paul]

It was my back, but if my ass is there.

[Podcast Host]

You wanted your back to the wall. Is that because of all the prisoners?

[Patrick]

No.

[Paul]

I love that. I've never been to prison, as a matter of fact.

[Podcast Host]

Well, you two will be going soon. It's just a matter of time.

[Paul]

You know what I thought about? I wanted to teach at the prison. I thought about that the other day because, you know, I'm at the university.

[Patrick]

No, I don't think so.

[Podcast Host]

You must have really tempted those prisoners when you were in the. How many times were you at the police station?

[Paul]

Multiple.

[Podcast Host]

I mean, I hope you covered up.

[Paul]

Oh, do you have to?

[Kevin Antonio Hernandez]

No,

[Paul]

no. But it's, you know, it's kind of crazy when stuff like this happens. You go through it, you understand it. You're living your life, and you don't want it to kind of consume you, but at the same time, you become like, there's a switch that just turns on that innately. Like, when we go to the restaurant, I have to sit with my back. That's why I sit here. Yeah. I have to see the door. I sit.

[Podcast Host]

Well, we also told you where to sit, and that's the seat you always sit in.

[Guest/Producer]

That's also the guest seat.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, that's where you normally sit. And your back happens to be to the wall because I. Yeah, but if

[Paul]

you were gonna make me somewhere else, I'd have to come over here. I would have to come. I would have to change my seat and sit somewhere else.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Guest/Producer]

He could have changed your seat.

[Podcast Host]

Such bravery. I mean, you guys are heroes.

[Patrick]

We're all thinking that.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Paul]

Don't you think I appreciate you understanding that? Because you could have lost Me. You would have gonna end up coming to my funeral. How is that gonna look? What would you wear?

[Guest/Producer]

I would have gone live on Instagram.

[Paul]

Oh, TikTok for sure. Oh, my God.

[Podcast Host]

My TikTok string of pearls in your honor. I would tease my hair really high.

[Paul]

Perfect.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Paul]

I hope it's an event.

[Podcast Host]

A lot of bracelets.

[Paul]

I hope it's an event.

[Patrick]

Not wear skinny jeans.

[Podcast Host]

No, no, not to your funeral. Not to his.

[Paul]

I would to be a fashion forward event.

[Podcast Host]

A sequence fanny pack in your honor.

[Patrick]

A cape.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, I love a cape. What would you wear, Jameson?

[Paul]

Yeah.

[Jameson]

What would you wear? I think something with a midriff showing probably.

[Paul]

Oh, that's. Oh, like, like maybe a speedo. Oh.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, they would love that.

[Jameson]

A scarf. A Speedo and a scarf.

[Patrick]

I like that.

[Paul]

I love that.

[Podcast Host]

Now, how's your mouth? Because didn't you have to go to the dentist again?

[Jameson]

I am in dental hell right now.

[Podcast Host]

What's going on?

[Jameson]

Fourth time yesterday. The whole drama is I went for my cleaning when I after my colonoscopy and they discovered a bunch of things. So then I went back and I had them done, but they had a temporary on. And when I went back to have the permanent, they put the permanent on and they're like, doesn't fit right. So then I went back yesterday and I sat in the chair and she's like, here's the thing. And I was like, no, there's no way. She's like, it's not gonna fit right again. I got the permanent. I didn't like it. I see it on the mold. I asked them to make another one. I don't like that one. We have the specialists coming in, but every time this happens, they have to grind down the temporary, redo the scan, and then put another temporary. So I have another temporary on.

[Podcast Host]

Is it painful?

[Jameson]

Well, the grind, it's like the grinding and all of that.

[Podcast Host]

Luckily, all you eat is toast.

[Jameson]

Exactly. So I think we're almost done. They're gonna try to expedite this permanent and hopefully I can get it put on on Monday and just be done. So it's kind of a bummer.

[Paul]

I feel like a lot of going back and forth for little temporary.

[Podcast Host]

I'm saying to Brandon, last time you seem incompetent.

[Paul]

Oh, my God.

[Podcast Host]

You have back and forth.

[Paul]

What kind of insurance do you have?

[Jameson]

I know, I know. But at this point, I have to see it through the end.

[Podcast Host]

Why don't tell us. Don't tell who your insurance agent is.

[Jameson]

I have to see through the end.

[Paul]

Which doctor are you going to?

[Podcast Host]

Don't tell him.

[Jameson]

I was saying to Brandon, though, I feel like someone cursed me. I mean, I always.

[Paul]

That never happened.

[Jameson]

I always have teeth issues. It's. Oh, I just have terrible teeth, those two.

[Podcast Host]

I just.

[Jameson]

I feel like I'm gonna have to sage myself this weekend.

[Podcast Host]

They said. I told them at the break. I said. They said, when are you moving? I go, I'm moving tomorrow. They said, oh, we want to come over. I'm like, I don't want your bad karma.

[Paul]

I didn't say, we want to come over.

[Podcast Host]

I don't want your bad karma anywhere near my house. We gotta say J.

[Paul]

As a matter of fact, I drive in front of it every day.

[Podcast Host]

Please take another. Please take another road.

[Paul]

Take Highland.

[Podcast Host]

Can you take Highland?

[Paul]

I'm gonna have to detour.

[Jameson]

I will say the dentist, as I was leaving, she's like. And don't say anything. Please don't say anything bad about us on the radio.

[Podcast Host]

Well, we didn't say their names.

[Jameson]

No, we didn't. And actually what I said to them is I really appreciate them wanting to get it right. Like a shitty dentist would just pop it in and throw some cement on it.

[Paul]

Oh, my God. It should have been right the first time. How hard is that to put? Like a perfect.

[Jameson]

It's a lot of times it's a very complicated fit with this tooth.

[Paul]

Oh, please.

[Podcast Host]

They want to get it right. I mean, and I want it right. They realize that you got a real

[Jameson]

pretty mouth, but I'll tell you, I've had so many people's hands in my mouth.

[Paul]

Oh, you had more than. You had more than hands in your mouth yesterday.

[Jameson]

It was the dentist, the hygienist, the specialist.

[Paul]

Oh, yeah, of course.

[Jameson]

A lot of hands on my mouth.

[Paul]

Okay, wow.

[Guest/Producer]

Can we talk about the DMs that Chaz has been getting?

[Podcast Host]

Okay, so Chaz Dean was on yesterday and, you know, we really talked about his products. And people. People always respond. So, you know, we have a new code. We have a code. Jeff and Chaz sent me. I think it was at 9:40 last night. He goes, oh, my God. The chumps have been Dming me relentlessly. I have already responded to 45 chumps. There's 45 more I have to respond to tonight. They can't get the code right.

[Paul]

They can't get the code.

[Podcast Host]

He goes, I don't understand. It's so easy. It just says code. You just type in Jeff. They're typing in code. Code, Jeff.

[Patrick]

Oh, my God.

[Guest/Producer]

Chump was typing in Code Jeff.

[Paul]

It already says code. It's just J, E. I know.

[Podcast Host]

And so I explain. I go, chaz. I go. I go. God love the chumps, but a lot of them are special needs.

[Paul]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

So you kind of have to. You kind of have to guide.

[Paul]

Welcome to the. Welcome to the cult.

[Podcast Host]

They just can't. They can't get the code. How hard is it?

[Guest/Producer]

It says code.

[Podcast Host]

You put in Jeff. It is so easy.

[Paul]

Like I'm typing. Yeah, but when you're saying, it's not working. But when you're saying code Jeff. 20. Then they're typing in code Jeff. 20.

[Guest/Producer]

No, 20.

[Paul]

Just no, 20. J, E, F, F. Well, he should use Jeff.

[Patrick]

The easiest solution is just add an extra code. Code Jeff. To put the words together.

[Paul]

And then it's.

[Patrick]

So they put it wrong.

[Guest/Producer]

We're not rewarding bad behavior

[Podcast Host]

now. So he brought us these beautiful gift bags, which he always does.

[Patrick]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

And the girls in the front desk love it. And Oscar's taking. He took one to his mom and his sister. And Chaz is so generous. He comes with a trunk load of gift bags. So I said, you know, I'm supposed to have this HR meeting.

[Paul]

Can I have one for you?

[Podcast Host]

Smellie is here. She's here two days a week. Smelly.

[Jameson]

And I don't know when she's here. I'm not exactly sure, you know, they're all.

[Paul]

Yeah, he doesn't get called in like you do.

[Jameson]

She was here yesterday.

[Podcast Host]

So I said, do me a favor, Jameson, because I don't want to talk to her, because I'm afraid she'll be like, oh, come on in. Have a seat. I need to talk to you.

[Patrick]

What's the HR meeting for?

[Guest/Producer]

No one knows.

[Podcast Host]

Well, we have an idea. But so I said, jameson, take her a gift bag. Oh, and so what happened when you walked in?

[Jameson]

I went in holding that bag. Smelly's face lit up. I was like.

[Paul]

We had.

[Jameson]

She's like, I know. When the billboards. I said, yeah. So she was really excited. She immediately opened the bag. I said, it's probably bribery.

[Podcast Host]

And she's like, it's not probably bribery. It's bribery. We should put cash in that bag.

[Paul]

And you wonder. And you wonder where I get this. Oh, my God. This is where I learn it all.

[Podcast Host]

But it's very smart because she probably never, never gets gifts because everybody hates her.

[Jameson]

HR has. Sometimes has.

[Podcast Host]

Nobody likes hr.

[Paul]

You know what her gift.

[Patrick]

Or if she has really bad hair, she's gonna take it as an offense.

[Podcast Host]

She's actually kind of cute. Personality, not so great. But she's kind of cute.

[Guest/Producer]

People like stuff. People love stuff, Jeff.

[Podcast Host]

She is cute.

[Paul]

You know what her gift is every time you walk into her office and she has to write you up?

[Podcast Host]

What? I am job security for you, smelly. Let's reframe this. Yeah, if I was in here causing trouble, you probably wouldn't have a job. She should be sending me the gift bag.

[Paul]

So you just admitted that.

[Podcast Host]

See how I turned that around?

[Paul]

Trouble. So you just admitted to causing trouble.

[Patrick]

Everyone knows he doesn't do that.

[Paul]

Everybody knows that.

[Podcast Host]

I'm like you guys. Wrong place, wrong time.

[Paul]

I know. You get it. I know.

[Podcast Host]

That's why I kind of like you, too.

[Paul]

It's a circumstance. It's like you can't be this pretty and not get in trouble. Well, I know.

[Podcast Host]

I know. I feel you.

[Guest/Producer]

Story of my life.

[Paul]

I know. It's awful.

[Podcast Host]

So, coffee reads. I heard you did a lot in New York. Well, first of all, why were you in New York?

[Patrick]

We were filming Undressed with Paul and Patrick.

[Paul]

So we did all the east coast friends that we have. Oh, all the podcasts.

[Podcast Host]

The podcast.

[Patrick]

Yeah.

[Paul]

So instead of them flying in, we go there. So it was easier to do it.

[Patrick]

So it. Housewives on. We filmed with Housewives. Amazing Race. Big Brother.

[Paul]

Julia Cunningham never called.

[Patrick]

I know.

[Paul]

I just saw her this morning. I was about to go tap on her window and go, julia, what's up?

[Podcast Host]

That ego? Let me tell you. I like her, but what happened? See, this is Sirius xm. They're creating a monster. All the A list celebrities, they're sending Julia. They're flying her all over the United States.

[Patrick]

I know.

[Podcast Host]

To interview all the big stars.

[Paul]

I'm a big reality star. Have you seen me on the news?

[Podcast Host]

Can I tell you, I already. First of all, they moved her to a bigger studio. I saw it.

[Paul]

I saw.

[Podcast Host]

So they moved her away from us.

[Guest/Producer]

Yes.

[Podcast Host]

And they moved her to a bigger studio on the other side with beautiful natural light. And then this morning, I pull into P4, there's a cone where Julia parks.

[Paul]

I saw it.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, you saw that cone?

[Paul]

Yeah. They're gonna put.

[Patrick]

They're gonna put her name down.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. That bitch got her own parking spot. I've been here for eight fucking years.

[Paul]

Oh, my God. So. So this is the poor section. That's the Beverly Hills. The other side has a different zip code, pretty much. Oh, Jeff, I need to go.

[Podcast Host]

She's on Dayton. We're on Gardner.

[Patrick]

Well, Gardner is the new rodeo driver.

[Paul]

Yeah.

[Jameson]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Says who?

[Paul]

We do.

[Podcast Host]

No, look, it's no Beverly Hills, but that building was a great investment.

[Paul]

Yeah, I love that building.

[Podcast Host]

It was one of the smarter things

[Paul]

that you guys loved building. I need, I need coffee reads, people. I'm back in the game. I'm doing coffee and is that how

[Podcast Host]

you launder money through the coffee reads?

[Paul]

You know what? I'm, I'm thinking about how to do it, although talk to my brother. It's all doing credit card. I'm like, I need cash. They don't want to. Can I get some tips? Do they tip Tiffany?

[Patrick]

I'll ask them to tip.

[Paul]

I have to ask a tip.

[Patrick]

Add a tip option. We should do a tip option.

[Paul]

I should have.

[Podcast Host]

That is a good idea, right? I should be doing.

[Paul]

I'm changing lives because he did one

[Patrick]

of the copy reads. He did one of the copyrights.

[Podcast Host]

Tiffany's changing lives. I don't know what you guys, I don't. No. You're entertaining people.

[Paul]

Well, she's not changing lives. The life already happened.

[Podcast Host]

She's giving them valuable information.

[Patrick]

Pulse coffee reads are amazing.

[Paul]

But I'm changing your life now in the present now.

[Patrick]

So many people have had great experiences.

[Podcast Host]

That's at least 25% tip, don't you think? And don't do. Do what restaurants do. Don't give them the option for like 5%, 10%, 50%, 80%. Yeah, it's like do like 25, 30, 5, 50.

[Paul]

I really think I should.

[Patrick]

You got a hundred dollar tip and then put other.

[Podcast Host]

But put other. But make sure the button doesn'.

[Paul]

I think that $100 tip was for something else.

[Patrick]

No, you handed it to me and

[Paul]

said, I know, but I think when you were gone, I think they wanted me to go to the bathroom with them because we were in the lounge upstairs. Jeff, I'm getting propositioned a little bit. I like my hair long. That 12 year old, just like Kevin said. That 12 year old that was driving that car.

[Podcast Host]

It's a soft, feminine look.

[Paul]

It is. Look. I even got my nails done.

[Podcast Host]

Oh yeah, these straight dudes are into it.

[Paul]

They're loving it. They're loving it.

[Guest/Producer]

Did you paint your nails on the flight back from.

[Paul]

From New York? No, I did it at the hotel.

[Jameson]

Yes, the only clipped them.

[Podcast Host]

Did you get upgraded?

[Patrick]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Both of you or just you?

[Patrick]

Both of us.

[Paul]

No, both of us. Both of us.

[Podcast Host]

I have a question for you, Patrick.

[Paul]

And no. No, Snow White does not pee. No, Snow White flew and she sat in the middle.

[Podcast Host]

You put a diaper on her, I hope.

[Paul]

No, Snow White does not.

[Patrick]

You know, I don't know who spilled the water on the couch at the green room, but that was bullshit because Snow White did not pee on the couch.

[Guest/Producer]

It's.

[Patrick]

I want to see it. I want to see it.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, we have it on camera.

[Patrick]

I really want to see.

[Paul]

Have you spilling water on the couch.

[Podcast Host]

Do you think it was me that peed?

[Patrick]

Probably.

[Kevin Antonio Hernandez]

Probably?

[Guest/Producer]

Well, that's funny. You could.

[Paul]

You could barely get into your suit that you're trying to get into that night, so the Depends would have added an extra inch and a half.

[Podcast Host]

You're right. I couldn't. There's no way I could get the Depends on and my suit, that was already tight enough.

[Paul]

Why wasn't Ty there? See, if Tai was there, you'd be on better behavior.

[Podcast Host]

I was on good behavior.

[Guest/Producer]

No.

[Paul]

Oh, my God.

[Patrick]

Are you freaking kidding me?

[Paul]

You.

[Podcast Host]

We got along great. I don't think there was any. Were there any confrontations at all?

[Paul]

No, I thought we.

[Podcast Host]

I thought it was perfect.

[Guest/Producer]

Everyone forgave you for clipping your nails. They forgave you for painting your nails. They forgave you for letting your dog

[Paul]

pee all over the night.

[Guest/Producer]

No confrontation.

[Jameson]

The only person that got yelled at was Todd for putting the pizza in the oven upside down.

[Patrick]

Oh, that was kind of. That was pretty stupid.

[Paul]

I mean, I'm like, I don't even understand how you put a pizza upside down, try to heat it up, and we're all sitting there. He was burning that new house down,

[Patrick]

and you don't even put it on anything.

[Podcast Host]

Caitlyn has a good question. Line to Caitlyn from California. Hi.

[Paul]

Hey, gorgeous. Hi, guys. Hi.

[Kevin Antonio Hernandez]

How are you?

[Podcast Host]

We're good.

[Patrick]

I'm good.

[Kevin Antonio Hernandez]

Sorry about your traumatic experiences.

[Patrick]

Thank you.

[Paul]

Thank you for understanding. Caitlyn. Somebody in the studio does not relate to that kind of drama.

[Podcast Host]

You know why?

[Paul]

You know why? Because he's the one creating the trauma. Trauma for everybody else.

[Patrick]

Exactly.

[Kevin Antonio Hernandez]

I'm just more concerned about Snow White because I love animals more than people. Are you taking her to trauma therapy?

[Patrick]

Yes. She has a pet therapist that we are taking her to.

[Paul]

She actually went.

[Podcast Host]

You're gonna be reimbursed from that for that.

[Paul]

She went to go and do all her lab work yesterday, and they said that she's fine, although one thing was a little off and then. But she's fine.

[Patrick]

Yeah, she's.

[Paul]

She has a dentist appointment because they're gonna, I think, remove two of the teeth that, like, just.

[Patrick]

But she's also very. Whenever we get in the car now, she has to, like, kind of lean on my Arm in her bed. Because she's very scared to.

[Podcast Host]

It was really so weak. She can't stand up.

[Patrick]

She can stand.

[Paul]

How dare you.

[Podcast Host]

But nothing happened to the dog. The dog was in the back seat.

[Patrick]

She was in the back seat.

[Paul]

She was in the back. She's a front seat driver.

[Podcast Host]

Nothing happened to the dog.

[Paul]

She was very traumatized. She was so scared when that punch happened.

[Patrick]

Very scared.

[Paul]

She actually curled up inside. In the middle of his thighs.

[Patrick]

Yeah.

[Paul]

Not much room, but she tried to get in there.

[Patrick]

Very, very terrified.

[Podcast Host]

You'd have to be terrified to do that. I don't have time to take line two. But she wants to know if she could book a coffee read for today. Are you doing coffee reads today?

[Patrick]

We are, yeah. Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Okay. And where do people go? Pollato.com polato.com and it's a T, T E U.com and Poll is P O L. Correct. It's. You know, it's probably not your birth name, but. But. But now it's P O L A T T E. Okay. Eu.com. okay. And then you guys are gonna do a coffee read summer tour.

[Patrick]

We are. We're going to Atlanta, Chicago, Phoenix, Northern California, seattle. It's like 10 cities.

[Paul]

And then.

[Podcast Host]

When does the tour start?

[Patrick]

Starts in June.

[Podcast Host]

You guys can't leave sooner?

[Paul]

We're coming over for dinner first.

[Patrick]

No, because I'm starting that new show. I start filming that show in May.

[Podcast Host]

Where you're naked.

[Patrick]

Where I'm naked? Yeah. It's gonna be insane.

[Paul]

I don't need to see that. Nobody needs to see it.

[Podcast Host]

Now I'm curious because I did a little research and it looks like. So, Paul, you've had an incredible career. You have.

[Paul]

Is it over? Oh, my God. Wait, is this.

[Podcast Host]

It's been over. You are a designer. You are a teacher. You are this. I don't know how, but this Incredible. Like, I guess you're. You're not a medium. Are you a psychic? Is that what we call you when you do these copy reads?

[Paul]

I guess I'm intuitive.

[Podcast Host]

Intuitive and a good one. Now, your instagram following is 118,000. Okay.

[Paul]

Okay.

[Podcast Host]

But Patrick's is 204,000.

[Paul]

Because he's naked all the time. He wants to take off that shirt. He wants to be in a freaking Speedo.

[Guest/Producer]

They don't want brains, they want body.

[Patrick]

My Instagram really jumped when I was in Croatia on that naughty tour, the Bone Party. Really?

[Paul]

He's booking another one?

[Podcast Host]

Does it bother you that he buys all these followers? Buy any followers and you're pretty much you're the business. You're the business.

[Paul]

I'm doing legitimate spots. Yes. No, he.

[Podcast Host]

I find it suspicious that you have 204.

[Paul]

He doesn't.

[Patrick]

I'm showing you my professional dashboard. 2.2 million.

[Podcast Host]

You only have 118.

[Paul]

But I have 1.8 million cyclations every month, every 30 days.

[Patrick]

And you're on Tick Tock every day. Now he's going live on Tick Tock. Every day.

[Paul]

I go live on Tick Tock. Oh, my God. I know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna walk by the house and critique the house. Live on Tick Tock.

[Podcast Host]

Tomorrow, my house, 12:30. Make sure to get the address number. By the way, I think Akim was telling me that you have. You know, you have the address of your store on your Instagram, but aren't you a little concerned about security?

[Paul]

No, because it's.

[Patrick]

We have cameras everywhere.

[Podcast Host]

Find it anyway.

[Paul]

It's like, you can't. It's like a. It's a store. It's like, people come, and I do my coffee reads there. People drive by there. People honk. Now they're coming to the new location. And then when they go to Dayton, they're like, paul, you're not here. Where are you? I'm like, oh, my God.

[Podcast Host]

We only have three minutes. But I do want to mention that you designed Sutton Strax.

[Paul]

No, not Sutton Strax.

[Patrick]

Sutton Brown.

[Paul]

Sutton Brown.

[Podcast Host]

Sutton Brown's reunion dress.

[Paul]

Yes.

[Podcast Host]

And is that this week? Is that airing this week?

[Patrick]

Tonight.

[Paul]

Tonight.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, it airs tonight. So when you watch the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills reunion tonight, just know that Paul Attu. Not Patrique Simpson, Paul Attu designed Sutton's gown. And there was a little drama around it because I guess last minute, you had found out that Kyle was wearing a certain color. You had already designed a gown for Sutton.

[Patrick]

Yes.

[Paul]

Sutton was supposed to be wearing black. She wanted to wear black with the nude, with the lace, and we picked the textures.

[Patrick]

Everything you designed was black?

[Paul]

Yeah, all the stuff that I was gonna do. And then we find. And she was on a trip, and then when she came back, she found out that, oh, the color has to change.

[Patrick]

Four days before the reunion, as we're

[Paul]

trying to change the color, they were giving her very specific colors because now everybody else had already picked a color, so she was limited in being able to choose another color. So we decided to do circular fashion. And I took one of the gowns that I already have into boutique, and we recycled it through.

[Patrick]

He tore it apart, put it back

[Paul]

together and then redid it in a whole different way to fit her and shape her body.

[Podcast Host]

Why didn't Sutton tell the producers that she was wearing black?

[Paul]

Why did she did it was already approved.

[Patrick]

They changed it last minute.

[Podcast Host]

How do you do that when someone has a dress made?

[Patrick]

Kyle. Kyle changed it last minute last minute.

[Podcast Host]

She has that kind of power. Dorit's right. Thanks for listening. If you want more of this, listen to Jeff Lewis Live every weekday on Sirius XM as well as the Jeff Lewis Channel exclusively on the SiriusXM app.

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