Raven Symoné & Miranda Maday: Backing In & Valley Skunks

Summary

JEFF LEWIS HAS ISSUES – PODCAST SUMMARY
Episode: Raven Symoné & Miranda Maday: Backing In & Valley Skunks
Date: June 19, 2026
Host: Jeff Lewis
Guests: Raven Symoné, Miranda Maday

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Episode Overview

This lively episode of "Jeff Lewis Has Issues" features celebrity couple Raven Symoné and Miranda Maday. Known for their candid conversations and playful energy, the duo join Jeff to talk about personal mishaps, unpredictable LA wildlife, relationship quirks, and everyday drama – all served with Jeff's signature bluntness and humor. The group dives into car accidents, animal encounters, relationship dynamics, and stories about hair, crystals, and tomato sauce, blending everyday issues with celebrity glamour and wit.

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Key Topics & Discussion Points

1. Hair Transformations & On-Screen Persona (01:33 - 04:17)

• Raven discusses her new long hair, which is actually for a role, and the maintenance it requires.
  • Jeff compliments her: “I think you look so pretty. I really like it.” (01:43)
  • Miranda admits she prefers Raven’s short hair: “It’s not my fave...it’s not who she is at home.” (01:51)
  • Raven shares she’s keeping her locs in for five years while writing her memoir, working on a documentary, and for ease during travel: “I'm keeping the real locs for a minimum of five years...As soon as I finish my job, it’s out.” (03:29, 04:03)
• Hair expenses: Raven’s hair costs $4,000, expected to last for years.
  • “Four grand...I'm an expensive ass.” – Raven (04:15)

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2. Car Mishaps & Parking Drama (04:56 – 13:08)

• Miranda’s Tesla accident: She backed into a pole in a parking structure while Raven was away, trying to adopt Raven’s security-inspired reverse parking habit.
  • “My wife has taught me when you park a car, you must reverse in...I backed into a head-first parking spot.” – Miranda (06:00)
  • Both discuss whether to repair the car through insurance; Miranda’s body shop guy “Hugo” offers help.
    • “If they’re only charging four grand for what happened to that car, I need you to go somewhere else immediately.” – Raven (08:12)
  • Mother-in-law in the car – adds to the drama: “My mom is so dramatic that she was scarier than everything. The gasp is so—” – Miranda (11:09)
• Prior car trouble: Miranda once drove into a brick wall due to low blood sugar, causing further (denied) cosmetic damage.

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3. Quirks, Fidgets, & Relationship Banter (13:39 – 15:20)

• Miranda and Jeff bond over their need for fidget objects.
  • “You fidget? Paperclips, napkins—everything. All day.” – Jeff (13:45)
  • It’s mostly for anxiety or an ADD-type focus: “It’s like you’re putting your energy somewhere else.” – Miranda (15:00)

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4. The Mystery of the Crows (15:22 – 18:09)

• Jeff shares the saga of crows at his old house, who would clog his fountain with trash, then suddenly vanished.
  • “First I was pissed off about the crows...now I have to say, I’m kind of sad about the crows.” – Jeff (16:52)
  • Miranda muses: “Maybe they were doing that because they actually loved you. And then you left...” (17:13)
  • Raven jokes: “You cleaned up some messiness in your life, and they were like, we’re gone.” (17:02)

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5. Valley Wildlife Encounters & Skunk Ordeal (18:11 – 26:43)

• Miranda’s skunk attack: During a particularly unlucky weekend (same one as the Tesla crash), she and the dog Quinn got sprayed by a skunk.
  • She describes desperate measures like wrapping her head in a T-shirt to sleep and using African black soap to rid herself of the smell.
    • “When I tell you, it’s like this oil...it was on me, it was on Quinn...I couldn’t handle the smell.” – Miranda (23:15, 25:27)
    • “African black soap...it will take any oil, any spray tan, any glue. Like, you’re clean.” – Raven (25:07)
• Wild LA backyard: Frequented by lizards (engaging in “doggy style” mating), raccoons, possums, and skunks.
  • “These are valley skunks. They don’t care.” – Raven (27:12)
• Raccoon rescue story: Miranda recounts saving a drowning baby raccoon after her house alarm inadvertently startled the animals.
  • “But I can’t let it die...the burglar alarm went off...everyone ran away.” – Miranda (27:41)

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6. TV Recommendations & Spoiler Talk (33:05 – 37:07)

• The group obsessively discusses the show From and teases plot points and character development.
  • “It is the one episode I’ve been waiting for this season.” – Jeff (33:10)
  • “One of the monsters now has transformed himself into a human...” – Jeff (34:47)
• Other faves: Cape Fear, Don’t F**k with Cats, Dan Levy’s Big Mistakes, Widow’s Bay, Hacks.

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7. Relationship Gifts & Anniversaries (43:02 – 44:28)

• Upcoming birthday and anniversary planning—Miranda wants travel, preferably to South Korea for beauty treatments, as they never had a real honeymoon.
  • “We really want to go to South Korea where I can get all the facial treatments.” – Miranda (43:40)
  • Raven wants another dog: “I want another dog." – Raven (44:00)

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8. Birkin Bags, Art, and Crystal Drama (44:31 – 50:26)

• Raven describes reclaiming a Birkin bag loaned to her sister (originally purchased and customized for an ex).
  • The bag features art by Simpkin: “He painted that...the whole history of this bag.” – Raven (46:09)
• Crystals and spirituality:
  • Raven keeps crystals on her person and around the house for spiritual protection; she recalls losing an expensive $600 unicorn crystal due to Miranda’s balcony mishap.
    • “It’s true that she lost one of my most expensive crystals. A unicorn clear quartz crystal. $600.” – Raven (49:50)
  • Raven’s spiritual journey involves Buddhism and “new age” practices.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• “The math ain't mathing and the gay ain't gayin'.” – Miranda (01:09)
• “She’s not the wife you want. You want short hair?” – Jeff (02:16)
• “I plead the fifth.” – Raven (04:44)
• “These animals are unspookable.” – Miranda (21:17)
• “You see how all the stories about her starts with me? Yes, it’s correct.” – Raven (50:26)
• “You need it in our pot and you need it in our kitchen.” – Raven, on tomato sauce (40:06)
• “Doug’s missing love in his [sauce]. That’s why it’s a base. Cause there’s no love.” – Jeff (39:37)
• “I'm not a sports lesbian, I'm an arts lesbian. Do they have easels?” – Raven (41:35)
• “Valley skunks gunk.” – Raven (27:18)

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Notable Timestamps

• Hair transformation & expense: 01:33 – 04:17
• Tesla crash story: 05:05 – 08:12
• Discussion of fidgets/ADHD: 13:39 – 15:20
• The crow mystery: 15:22 – 18:09
• Skunk attack & African black soap: 18:11 – 26:43
• TV show talk (From, Widow’s Bay): 33:05 – 37:07
• Birkin bag saga & Simpkin art: 44:31 – 47:21
• Crystals and spirituality: 48:55 – 50:26

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Conclusion

This episode is a classic blend of Jeff Lewis’s no-filter style and the infectious energy of Raven Symoné and Miranda Maday. Listeners get a peek behind the curtain at everyday relationship antics, hilarious pet and wildlife mishaps, wealth and celebrity quirks, and honest conversation about love, spirituality, and what makes a house a home—sometimes literally. It's both entertaining and refreshingly real, with plenty of laughs and “did-that-really-happen?!” moments.

Transcript

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[Miranda Mayday]

When you're Jeff Lewis, the drama never stops.

[Jeff Lewis]

For the last is a decade, you've been covering disasters. That's right. That's why he's here.

[Miranda Mayday]

The math ain't mathing and the gay ain't gayin'.

[Jeff Lewis]

Later, you're gonna need to do maintenance.

[Miranda Mayday]

Why? To be attractive. For who?

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh, for us.

[Miranda Mayday]

Jeff Lewis has issues.

[Jeff Lewis]

Hey, welcome to Jeff Lewis Has Issues. In today's episode, Raven Simone Miranda Mayday joined the show. We talk about car accidents, valley skunks and stolen crystals. Good morning.

[Miranda Mayday]

Good morning.

[Jeff Lewis]

I love the longer hair.

[Raven Symone]

Oh, I'm glad someone does.

[Jeff Lewis]

No one likes it.

[Raven Symone]

No, a lot of people like it. It's just me getting used to it. I haven't had long hair in like six years.

[Jeff Lewis]

I think you look so pretty. I really like it. Do you like it, Shane?

[Raven Symone]

Yeah.

[Caroline]

Gorgeous.

[Raven Symone]

Thank you. I'll take it.

[Jeff Lewis]

Miranda, why are you so quiet over there? Do you not like it?

[Miranda Mayday]

It's not my fave.

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh, wow. I can see it on your face.

[Miranda Mayday]

She can wear any hairstyle. We know this. Raven can have all the hair. She can have no hair. It's just. It's not my wife. You know what I mean? Like, it's not who she is.

[Caroline]

What length of hair did you have when you met?

[Miranda Mayday]

Oh, I've had every length. Yeah, she's had every length. She's literally had every length and every color.

[Jeff Lewis]

So it's not the. She's not the wife you want. You want short hair?

[Miranda Mayday]

It's.

[Raven Symone]

She's more. It's not the one that matches my personality at home. This is not the personality that I am at home. What? I am at home.

[Miranda Mayday]

That's the Persona.

[Raven Symone]

Yeah. This is what Raven Symone, that everybody's like, oh, my God.

[Miranda Mayday]

Raven Simone.

[Raven Symone]

It's like, hi. And then I'm like, take this shit off.

[Jeff Lewis]

So why did you. Why do you have it long? Are you set for a movie?

[Raven Symone]

Yes.

[Jeff Lewis]

Got it. Okay. I do like it. Is it just too long, though? Is that the problem? What if it was just a little shorter? Can I see how long? Oh, no, you could just take it out of it.

[Caroline]

That's a lot of work. Okay.

[Miranda Mayday]

No, it's not a lot of work.

[Raven Symone]

Give me three seconds.

[Jeff Lewis]

One, two, three.

[Caroline]

Wow.

[Jeff Lewis]

I see what you're. Okay, so just maybe like, what, five inches off, four inches off.

[Raven Symone]

Miranda, she wants my shape or 20.

[Miranda Mayday]

Yeah, it's just a. It's just a lot, you know, it's also, like, a lot of hair.

[Jeff Lewis]

Too thick now. Were you saying that it's all over the house?

[Miranda Mayday]

Yes.

[Raven Symone]

Oh, shedding is wild.

[Miranda Mayday]

I can know.

[Raven Symone]

I think it's really pretty, though.

[Miranda Mayday]

Yeah.

[Raven Symone]

Like, now I know that if that's a hair in the house, it's mine. Before, I was like, who is this blonde hair?

[Miranda Mayday]

Who's in the house? But how much of it is yours?

[Raven Symone]

About 2 inches.

[Caroline]

And you're growing it?

[Raven Symone]

This little baby. This little baby one is mine.

[Caroline]

Got it.

[Raven Symone]

It's a baby one. Yeah, I'm growing it. And I'm keeping. I'm keeping the locks in the. The real locs for a minimum of five years as I go through writing the book and doing the memoir. Sorry, that's the same thing. Doing the memoir, doing the doc and all these things. I'm gonna be just keeping my hair this way because it's a lot easier to maintain. I don't have to worry about 17 people on tour with me. I do my own makeup.

[Miranda Mayday]

So literally, I get to, like, it's easy peasy.

[Raven Symone]

Yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

With the longer hairs.

[Miranda Mayday]

No, just in general. Raven is so low maintenance when it comes to makeup. Hair, skin, all the things.

[Jeff Lewis]

I would think longer hair is higher maintenance.

[Raven Symone]

No, it is. This is gonna. As soon as I finish my job, it's out. It's out. And I go back to my three inch.

[Jeff Lewis]

Got it, got it, got it, got it. Okay.

[Raven Symone]

Keep that in for like, five.

[Jeff Lewis]

Is that really expensive? I would imagine that hair. Yeah. Like, it's like a fortune.

[Raven Symone]

Four gram.

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh, my God.

[Raven Symone]

I'm an expensive ass.

[Caroline]

Yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

$4,000. But how long does it last?

[Raven Symone]

It'll last as long as I want. It to.

[Miranda Mayday]

And we got it retwisted every what, like two months?

[Raven Symone]

Every two months. But that's a normal lock phase. The actual extensions could last me for the rest of my LOC journey. So I could last for five years.

[Jeff Lewis]

What movie are you doing?

[Raven Symone]

None of your business.

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh, are you not ready to announce?

[Raven Symone]

Correct.

[Jeff Lewis]

Got it. And then are you gonna be filming here in LA or elsewhere?

[Raven Symone]

I plead the fifth.

[Jeff Lewis]

Elsewhere. Okay. And then will you be gone two months, three months?

[Raven Symone]

I plead the fifth.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay, so

[Caroline]

just making stuff up

[Jeff Lewis]

now? I do have to. I always. Cause you guys are car people. Gotta talk to you about cars. So I heard. Cause this is shocking to me. Cause I thought lesbians were good drivers.

[Miranda Mayday]

Yeah, we are.

[Raven Symone]

No, you're not.

[Jeff Lewis]

I heard you backed right into a pole in the Tesla and did some major damage and didn't tell me. What?

[Raven Symone]

Did she tell you that part that she didn't tell me? Oh no, she didn't tell you either, did she,

[Jeff Lewis]

Keith? Did she tell you that part?

[Miranda Mayday]

Yes, I.

[Raven Symone]

That you hid it from her?

[Miranda Mayday]

Yes.

[Caroline]

Oh, I don't remember.

[Jeff Lewis]

That's cause she didn't tell you.

[Miranda Mayday]

Oh my God. I did. I told you what happened and I will tell you again. Okay, first of all, Cian, you have to report better because I just didn't hit a big poll. Raven, first of all, I wasn't even here.

[Raven Symone]

Don't bring me in. Don't start. Leo.

[Caroline]

Leo.

[Miranda Mayday]

Excuse me.

[Jeff Lewis]

I said Raven, first of all.

[Raven Symone]

Okay, I was in Georgia.

[Miranda Mayday]

You guys. Let me get the story out. My wife, the. The whole story, the beginning.

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh, this is going to be your fault.

[Miranda Mayday]

My wife has taught me that when you park a car, you must reverse in. And this is because Raven is a security freak and she's like, when you back in, you can get out more quickly and this is what you have to do. So I was never a reverse into a parking spot person until Raven was like, no, Miranda, you have to start doing this.

[Raven Symone]

She's going to blame it on me.

[Miranda Mayday]

No, no, I'm not, I'm not. I'm not blaming it on her. I'm just saying it's now become automatic to me. I back all parking spots. So the problem with this particular.

[Raven Symone]

For the record, I don't back into parking spots that say head in.

[Miranda Mayday]

Okay, okay. For the record, that was. That's where I made the mistake. Because I am now. I am now so autopilot when it comes to parking. I just reverse in. I backed into a head first parking spot. And the reason it was a head first Is because there was a low hanging beam from the ceiling. So I didn't have any sensor go off. I didn't have any warning which is built all around the entire perimeter of the damn car. And then I hit the pole that was from hanging from the ceiling, not in the ground. And I messed up the car. And let me tell you, I was so upset. And I didn't tell Raven because she was away. I didn't want to make her time feel spoiled by this news. Baby, hey, I know you're having a great time with all the.

[Jeff Lewis]

So you were trying to save her feelings.

[Miranda Mayday]

She was protecting her because I'm in. And I was scared. And I was scared.

[Jeff Lewis]

And then you were scared. That was it. You were scared.

[Raven Symone]

It was both. You know what else I found out? I might be exaggerating, but on that day, I found out that they'll no longer be making that type of car.

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh, no.

[Raven Symone]

They are no longer gonna be making the Batman winged Tesla.

[Jeff Lewis]

Is it totaled?

[Raven Symone]

No, it's not totaled. But if I have to get a new frame. If I have to get a new

[Jeff Lewis]

frame, then they're gonna total it.

[Raven Symone]

Then I'm not an authentic went 20 years down the line. I'm trying to keep this car.

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh, that car has lost all its value. Now it's gone.

[Raven Symone]

Because she drove you guys.

[Miranda Mayday]

I already went to the body. Totally repairable. It's literally as much as your hair. It's fine. We're good.

[Raven Symone]

That's not going to be as much as my hair.

[Jeff Lewis]

If.

[Raven Symone]

If what? The dent that I see.

[Miranda Mayday]

They quoted me.

[Raven Symone]

I. They.

[Jeff Lewis]

So you haven't even seen the car?

[Raven Symone]

Oh, I've seen it. And I don't know what body shop you're going to, but if they're only charging four grand for what happened to that car, I need you to go to somewhere else immediately.

[Miranda Mayday]

Hugo liked me, number one. Number two, it's because I pause there. I got the hell.

[Raven Symone]

Hugo. Who the hell is Hugo?

[Miranda Mayday]

He is the auto body man. And he was a recommendation from the Porsche guy. The one that a Tesla. But the Porsche people that liked you so much who sang your song, they are hooking it up.

[Raven Symone]

He was.

[Miranda Mayday]

I got it, you guys. You go.

[Jeff Lewis]

I don't think you do.

[Miranda Mayday]

I'm gonna take care of everything.

[Raven Symone]

I don't think she understands that. A Tesla and a Porsche body totally different.

[Jeff Lewis]

Wait, are you going through insurance?

[Raven Symone]

Oh, I tried it. She was like, I don't.

[Miranda Mayday]

Here's the thing. This is all.

[Jeff Lewis]

Wait. In trouble. Why would you get in trouble?

[Caroline]

Insurance rates Would go up.

[Miranda Mayday]

Oh, I'm sorry. Hugo was like, I've now told the story to the radio. He was like, did anyone see this happen? And I was like, no. He goes, oh, so you got rear ended? And I was like, I couldn't tell that lie.

[Caroline]

I am the.

[Jeff Lewis]

It sounds like. Honestly, it sounds like a hit and run.

[Miranda Mayday]

Oh, my God.

[Caroline]

You were attacked.

[Miranda Mayday]

I was.

[Raven Symone]

Don't turn my wife into a Karen.

[Caroline]

Not today.

[Raven Symone]

Not today.

[Jeff Lewis]

No. You came down to that structure and it was damaged.

[Miranda Mayday]

Exactly.

[Jeff Lewis]

You don't know how it happened.

[Miranda Mayday]

I have no clue how that happened. It was someone back.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah. Someone backed into you.

[Caroline]

That pole attacked you.

[Miranda Mayday]

Yeah, in a. In a. Totally.

[Raven Symone]

Like, make sure they don't see my.

[Miranda Mayday]

There was a wall here and then the car, but someone hit me. Someone hit me through the wall.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah.

[Raven Symone]

Call the police immediately. Make sure you go with all your

[Miranda Mayday]

white friends when you do this, because

[Raven Symone]

if you show up with me, you

[Miranda Mayday]

are in trouble already. Is he who already likes me. My whiteness worked. Don't worry.

[Raven Symone]

I don't know who this Hugo is, but I don't like.

[Miranda Mayday]

He's really nice.

[Jeff Lewis]

But you brought up the Porsche. What happened to the Porsche?

[Raven Symone]

Oh, well, my Porsche is from 2014, so I just needed a good servicing and some of the things were leaking and stuff, so I got a new little cart underneath and it's fine. Although my spoiler on it hasn't raised in about five years. But I'm not gonna get that done because that's 30 grand. I feel like I don't need it.

[Jeff Lewis]

What?

[Raven Symone]

30 grand to change the.

[Jeff Lewis]

It goes up automatically when you're going

[Raven Symone]

75 and a speed. Yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

Well, isn't that important to keep the car from. I think it's more flying away.

[Raven Symone]

I think it's more aesthetic for a 911. But don't be mad at me, Porsche lovers. I'm gonna get it fixed. Let me get this job in this bag and then I'll, you know, I'll fix it. Then it's 30 grand. That's ridiculous to me.

[Jeff Lewis]

You know what you need to do? Go to Hugo.

[Raven Symone]

I'm not showing a titty to Hugo.

[Caroline]

Okay.

[Raven Symone]

I don't know what she did for a four thousand dollar body job, but babes, we gotta have a conversation off air.

[Miranda Mayday]

You have to. No, I didn't. He does Porsches. He was the. I thought I was. So Tesla's. Yes, he does. All of it.

[Jeff Lewis]

How loud was it when you hit?

[Miranda Mayday]

Yeah, with your mom in the comb.

[Jeff Lewis]

Good. We were like, holy.

[Miranda Mayday]

Yeah, I said what the. Did I. I was like, who?

[Raven Symone]

And her mom was in the car. Did she tell you this? No. Oh, Mama Teresa. She probably was like, oh, my God.

[Miranda Mayday]

She was. That's exactly what she was like. My mom is so dramatic that she was scarier than everything. The gasp is so. And I was like, what did I hit? And she was like, I have no idea.

[Raven Symone]

She tell you that this car that she was driving, she also drove into a brick wall head on.

[Jeff Lewis]

What?

[Miranda Mayday]

Before I had low blood sugar,

[Raven Symone]

you guys.

[Miranda Mayday]

And I warned everyone about it.

[Raven Symone]

Me and Quinn. I've never experienced a crash on low blood sugar.

[Miranda Mayday]

Okay, babes.

[Raven Symone]

I was like, dizzy.

[Caroline]

Wait, you hit a wall and connect A to B. How did that happen?

[Jeff Lewis]

Was that the same car?

[Miranda Mayday]

Same car, yeah.

[Raven Symone]

Still has. Oh, is he fixing that part too? That hasn't been fixed.

[Miranda Mayday]

Yeah, Hugo said he would do it for free.

[Jeff Lewis]

Something's up.

[Miranda Mayday]

Two titties. He would be so disappointed.

[Raven Symone]

Sorry. No, he's not. I know what they look like.

[Miranda Mayday]

Yeah. So here's the thing. I was parking. I was parking the correct way, which is like the front way. And there was this little brick wall. But I little. I just didn't know when to stop. But I had low blood sugar. And I was like.

[Raven Symone]

The car was beeping.

[Miranda Mayday]

I was like, I'm losing it. I'm losing. I'm getting dizzy. I'm losing it. And then I just tapped the wal.

[Jeff Lewis]

Was that a lot of damage too?

[Miranda Mayday]

No. No.

[Raven Symone]

Yes.

[Miranda Mayday]

No. No.

[Raven Symone]

Yes.

[Miranda Mayday]

No. Yes. It did nothing. It just took some paint off. It didn't deter.

[Raven Symone]

You know, that's custom paint, babe. Cause when you go get the car done, you can get the paint that's free and the paint that's not free. That's the not free paint.

[Jeff Lewis]

She's very entertaining, Miranda. Now last time you weren't here.

[Raven Symone]

Last time I wasn't.

[Jeff Lewis]

She told us with a straight face that she has a perfect eyebrow to forehead ratio.

[Caroline]

Excuse me.

[Jeff Lewis]

Has she ever told you that?

[Miranda Mayday]

Excuse me. Keltie told me that. And I just said, okay, Kelty. I did not say that. Kelty told me. She told me I had Jennifer Aniston's proportions of the forehead to the eye. And I said, what does that mean, Kelty? And she was like, well, I got this necklace now. I know that's how that happened.

[Raven Symone]

I just love that the Porsche is a Tesla and the neck is a forehead and how it all just connects that way. Babes. I will say she doesn't have a five head, but the eyebrows are on fleek.

[Miranda Mayday]

If that's still a word. I was really flattered that Kelty told me that because I didn't know that. And you guys all know I have facial dysmorphia. So the fact that I was proportioned correctly.

[Jeff Lewis]

Perfect. It's a perfect ratio. I agree.

[Miranda Mayday]

How do we know? Should we measure?

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah, I could see. Don't you think it's a perfect eyebrow to forehead ratio?

[Raven Symone]

That's what I stare at all the time. The perfectness of that ratio.

[Jeff Lewis]

Now, can I ask you. There was something that I noticed last time you had like, a little bit of a fid. Like a fidget toy.

[Miranda Mayday]

She still got it.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay, because I. It's funny because you fidget paperclips. I fidget too. Paper clips, napkins, everything. All day. All day.

[Miranda Mayday]

Yeah.

[Raven Symone]

We got to get you a tea time fidget spinner. We have one. We have branded merch.

[Caroline]

Okay. Branded.

[Miranda Mayday]

We do.

[Jeff Lewis]

Is that a tea time fidget?

[Miranda Mayday]

No, this is just a neato that I'm obsessed with. It's.

[Jeff Lewis]

It's too big for, like. I put it. I'll put it in my pocket. Like, whatever I have. I'll put my pocket. Take it back out. That's funny that you do that constantly. Why do we do that?

[Miranda Mayday]

Well, I mean, for me, it's. I don't know, anxiety. Just.

[Raven Symone]

Let me just explain to you. We'll be in. It's more than anxiety. We're on the couch watching, for instance, the new Cape Fear. Have you seen it? It's really good.

[Miranda Mayday]

From. We're watching from.

[Raven Symone]

Or from.

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh, my God. We gotta talk about that.

[Raven Symone]

She's double fisting needles. There's one in one hand, two in the hand.

[Jeff Lewis]

I understand that.

[Caroline]

With.

[Jeff Lewis]

From. I get it.

[Raven Symone]

Everything, though. All the.

[Jeff Lewis]

You know what? We have so much in common every time.

[Miranda Mayday]

Jeff.

[Jeff Lewis]

I also have a perfect eyebrow tube forehead ratio.

[Miranda Mayday]

And you have great lips and nice teeth. Thank you. You literally are twins.

[Jeff Lewis]

But I do fidget all day long.

[Miranda Mayday]

I think it's just, you know how have, like, oral fixations where they have to be chewing or they, like, chew their straws.

[Jeff Lewis]

I do that too.

[Miranda Mayday]

Yeah, I eat. I've done a little bit. I think it's just nerves. Is it nerves but also like a preoccupation? Exactly. It's like you put. You're putting your energy somewhere else. I think. You know, I used to have a little bit of, like. I'd pick like my cuticles or something. Like, it's just. I think I mentioned it might be

[Jeff Lewis]

like a ADD kind of thing.

[Miranda Mayday]

Yeah. For sure.

[Raven Symone]

Oh, never mind.

[Jeff Lewis]

Can I ask you about crows?

[Raven Symone]

Sure. I haven't talked about that.

[Jeff Lewis]

Do you know anything about crows?

[Raven Symone]

I mean, just the lore.

[Jeff Lewis]

So we were talking about how smart they are and how intelligent they are. And so I moved out of my old house. And for some reason, right before we moved, we had, like, one crow.

[Caroline]

He would just come say hello.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah. We'd, like, hang out in the fountain in the front yard. And then he started bringing, like, little peanut shells and chicken bones and clogging my fountain. But then we left, and then more crows moved in. And then every time I got there, there was all these crows, and they were all bathing and they're dropping food. And we talked about it, but it was, like, extreme.

[Caroline]

Like, the fountain would be, like, full of stuff, and I would, like, hose it down. We'd go inside for, like, two seconds and, like, lock up the house, make sure.

[Jeff Lewis]

And they would drop more things, come

[Caroline]

back outside, and it's covered again.

[Raven Symone]

It's crazy.

[Caroline]

It was bizarre.

[Jeff Lewis]

Then they're gone. I went there. We went there yesterday.

[Caroline]

Yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

Gone. They're gone. All of them. They're gone. It's the weirdest thing. Where did they go? And I have. I, like, now. First I was pissed off about the crows because I have to spend. What does that guy charge me every time?

[Caroline]

$3.75.

[Jeff Lewis]

375 to fucking fix the fountain.

[Raven Symone]

That's crazy.

[Jeff Lewis]

Every time the crows. I need Hugo.

[Raven Symone]

Yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

Every time the crows clog the fountain, I gotta have fountain guy there. So I was starting to get pissed. And there was always chicken bones and all kinds of food they get in the trash cans and they drop it all in the fountain. So then yesterday, fountain's perfectly clean. No crows, no peanut shells, no chicken bones. I have to say, I'm kind of sad about the crows.

[Raven Symone]

Oh, you miss your friends.

[Jeff Lewis]

Where did they go?

[Miranda Mayday]

Do they migrate? Don't birds migrate?

[Caroline]

Oh, they flew south for winter.

[Miranda Mayday]

Yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

I don't know.

[Raven Symone]

I was gonna say, you cleaned up some messiness in your life. And they were like, we're gone.

[Jeff Lewis]

Really?

[Raven Symone]

I don't know. Did somebody die?

[Jeff Lewis]

Not yet.

[Caroline]

Well, it's a sign.

[Miranda Mayday]

Also, you moved, so maybe, you know, that could have been a sign of affection because crows will bring gifts and things. So maybe they were doing that because they actually loved you. And then you left and they were

[Caroline]

like, well, shit, yeah, you hurt them first.

[Jeff Lewis]

Because I don't. I've never chased crows away. I don't. Do you know people do that with a broom or a hose or whatever?

[Raven Symone]

They remember I walk.

[Jeff Lewis]

I mean, it's not like I welcome them, but they were fine. Like, we coexisted together, but I just think it's like, maybe it's my fear of abandonment, but I don't know.

[Caroline]

Do you feel abandoned?

[Jeff Lewis]

I feel abandoned by the crows. Pros. And I'm like. I'm just curious. Like, where did they go?

[Raven Symone]

Why don't you leave them a little chicken bone, see if they come back. It's like a little chicken carcass.

[Caroline]

Somebody said Little McNuggets.

[Jeff Lewis]

Remember they were saying that Brazilians.

[Raven Symone]

Brazil.

[Miranda Mayday]

Those are expensive. And they'll give a lot of selenium.

[Raven Symone]

Yeah, I don't know about that.

[Miranda Mayday]

You can just go out there and

[Raven Symone]

try and call them the picass. Crazy.

[Miranda Mayday]

Imagine Jeff Lewis outside in his backyard.

[Jeff Lewis]

It really is kind of a mystery.

[Raven Symone]

It is a mystery.

[Miranda Mayday]

We love a mystery.

[Raven Symone]

It's like our backyard. We have a lot of crows. She got sprayed by a skunk. Like, there's been a whole thing.

[Jeff Lewis]

Wait, what?

[Miranda Mayday]

Oh, my God. Yes. That same weekend that raven was away, that I hit the pole, I also got sprayed by a skunk. Something was not right.

[Raven Symone]

Him and her and Quinn.

[Miranda Mayday]

It was terrible.

[Jeff Lewis]

Well, okay.

[Miranda Mayday]

So you want the story?

[Jeff Lewis]

Yes.

[Miranda Mayday]

Okay. So it's a show.

[Caroline]

Yeah.

[Raven Symone]

I think I'm gonna need that.

[Miranda Mayday]

11:45 p. 11:45pm I'm on the couch. I'm exhausted. I'm letting Quinn out for his final pee of the night. We have a routine when we let Quinn out because we do have so many creatures in the backyard. I'm telling you, it is like. It's wild. Okay, I don't understand. I live in Los Angeles, and there's just like. There's lizards that in the tree. There's squirrels. There's just, like, so much. There's raccoons.

[Jeff Lewis]

Do lizards?

[Raven Symone]

Yeah.

[Miranda Mayday]

It's disgusting.

[Raven Symone]

Violently.

[Jeff Lewis]

What?

[Miranda Mayday]

Yeah. And then they, like, lose body parts that they leave. Like, it's just a whole thing. So obviously, Quinn, we have to go

[Jeff Lewis]

back to the gay. Liz.

[Miranda Mayday]

The gay lizard thing is crazy. So Quinn has his thing, right? Because he goes out there and he wants to. Like, they do.

[Caroline]

Fuck.

[Jeff Lewis]

Are you on the computer looking at lizards?

[Caroline]

Of course.

[Jeff Lewis]

Can we see it?

[Raven Symone]

Call hr.

[Caroline]

They've reproduced through sexual reproduction involving internal fertilization. And there's pictures.

[Jeff Lewis]

Can I see the pictures? I'm so sorry. We'll get back to your story, but you can't drop that.

[Raven Symone]

And that.

[Jeff Lewis]

You know what I mean?

[Miranda Mayday]

Right? Right.

[Jeff Lewis]

Can I see a picture?

[Miranda Mayday]

I just thought we all knew that's how babies were made.

[Jeff Lewis]

The men creep on the girls.

[Caroline]

Yeah, they do like, bright colors. They bob their. They perform push ups to attract females.

[Raven Symone]

Yeah.

[Caroline]

How cute. They, like, work.

[Miranda Mayday]

There it is.

[Raven Symone]

That's what we see.

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh, wow. That one's just.

[Miranda Mayday]

That's literally our backyard.

[Jeff Lewis]

Do they prefer that position?

[Raven Symone]

I think so, because it's. You can hang on the tree, but you can also do it on the ground.

[Jeff Lewis]

Caroline, come here for a second.

[Caroline]

Caroline ran.

[Jeff Lewis]

I wonder if she knows this. We're gonna show her the picture. Let's see what she says. Caroline, do you know that lizards fuck? Look.

[Caroline]

Were you aware they do it doggy style?

[Jeff Lewis]

That's what I said. That's what I said. They prefer that position.

[Miranda Mayday]

That's what happens in our backyard.

[Raven Symone]

Wow. She's speechless.

[Miranda Mayday]

Are you still living in. No, we move. No, we moved. We're living in the.

[Raven Symone]

Yes, you moved.

[Jeff Lewis]

Now you're in a fancy place.

[Raven Symone]

Yeah, now I have a really nice house.

[Jeff Lewis]

But that's what's going on in their backyard.

[Miranda Mayday]

So I think I want to go

[Raven Symone]

back to the hood. I miss it. We weren't having that problem. They're watching Jurassic. That's their version of porn.

[Miranda Mayday]

Miniature version.

[Raven Symone]

Okay.

[Jeff Lewis]

That's crazy.

[Miranda Mayday]

Love you.

[Jeff Lewis]

Bye. So you see a lot of that around your backyard?

[Miranda Mayday]

Yeah. So there's a lot of that's happening. We also have raccoons. We have a dead. Had a dead one. One time when I was actually coming here to do morning radio, I had a baby raccoon drowning in the pool. It was like. It was horrible.

[Caroline]

Tragic.

[Raven Symone]

Yeah.

[Miranda Mayday]

Really tragic.

[Jeff Lewis]

Did he drown?

[Raven Symone]

No.

[Miranda Mayday]

No.

[Jeff Lewis]

You saved him.

[Miranda Mayday]

No, it was.

[Raven Symone]

That's another story. That's a long story.

[Miranda Mayday]

I get back to the fact that

[Raven Symone]

she was sprayed by a skunk.

[Jeff Lewis]

It's funny, but you guys dropped these, like, but he didn't drown. Kind of drowned.

[Raven Symone]

You know why we do this? So you can invite us back.

[Miranda Mayday]

Next.

[Raven Symone]

Keep going, babe.

[Miranda Mayday]

We strategize that. It's called the tease. Okay, so anyhow, I let Quinn out for his nighttime pee. But because of the situation before we let him out, we always do these obnoxious, like, whooping sounds, stomping them with the feet to, like, spook whatever's there. Which also doesn't fucking work because these animals are unspookable. Anyway, I do that. That I. I do a little, like, perimeter check. Great. Quinn, go potty. Quinn goes out and I go to the back kitchen to put the final dishes in the dishwasher. To turn the dishwasher on and I hear, like, a little tussle sound. And I was like, oh, not tonight. Then I hear him bark. And then I hear more. I'm like, something's out there. So I go out and I look, and I see Quinn just, like, kind of batting at a rosemary bush. And I was like, oh, God. I was like, but the raccoons usually run away. Like, if he comes up on one.

[Raven Symone]

Not this.

[Miranda Mayday]

Lip you. So I went out there, and I was like, please don't be a possum. Like, I've already had two possum incidents. I can't take a third.

[Jeff Lewis]

And also, another teaser, but okay,

[Miranda Mayday]

you're welcome. We're trained for it. And I'm walking towards Quinn, and I'm calling him, and he's not paying attention, and he keeps going. And then I finally get close enough that I see.

[Raven Symone]

See the tail. She just sees a puckered.

[Miranda Mayday]

No, I see. I see the tail. Happy pride. And I. And I literally. It's like my life flashed before my eyes because I understood in that moment. Skunk. And we've had these skunks because I smell them all the time, and it's aggressive. And I see Quinn, like, continuing to. Baby, it's not moving. I'm screaming. Now, let me tell you, when I start screaming. I was screaming so much so that I actually hurt my throat. And no one came to my rescue. So I do not feel safe in my neighborhood. All my neighbors, because they. If they didn't.

[Raven Symone]

Hey, leave John alone. I don't like John.

[Jeff Lewis]

They sprayed the dog, too.

[Raven Symone]

Yes.

[Miranda Mayday]

Well, here's what's happened. Here's what happened.

[Raven Symone]

So I get to the part where the.

[Miranda Mayday]

I see the puckered asshole, and I'm like, don't do it. And then it did it. And when I tell you, it's like this oil, it's like, like. And it. It was on me. It was on Quinn. No. I grabbed him. My sliding door was left open. So the smell, just like in my house. I can't breathe. I literally can't breathe. It's like my eyes are burning. I can't take a deep breath. I start, like. I don't know what to do because, again, I'm born and raised in Los Angeles. Like, not trained for this. I take my clothes off. I start washing. I had to wrap my head in a T shirt to fall asleep that night. I finally went to bed around, like, 1:30 in the morning. I sent her, what? Yeah. Like, six times over this span.

[Raven Symone]

And then she calls me. I'm in Georgia. I grew up with skunks. So put your dog in the tomato sauce. Like, do the.

[Miranda Mayday]

That doesn't work.

[Raven Symone]

I asked Chatgpt. I have to do baking soda vinegar. I said, no, you don't put that little thing in a tomato sauce. Cover yourself with tomato sauce. And she didn't.

[Miranda Mayday]

But I sent you the angriest text, though, because I didn't want to call you that night.

[Raven Symone]

She just has a problem calling me while I'm gone, but then misses me so much.

[Miranda Mayday]

Well, I didn't want to wake you up.

[Jeff Lewis]

How did you get the smell out of your gorgeous hair?

[Miranda Mayday]

Oh, it was in my hair for, like, good three days. But honestly, what worked the best was African black stuff soap. I. It's straight for you. It's stripped.

[Jeff Lewis]

Like, where do you buy that?

[Caroline]

What is that?

[Raven Symone]

Let me tell you some. Y' all come with me some days.

[Caroline]

Yeah.

[Raven Symone]

I mean, I'll take you to a place anyway. You buy it. You can buy it in Ethiopian Town. You can buy it at a black hair salon on Fairfax.

[Caroline]

Yeah, South.

[Miranda Mayday]

Yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh, I know where that is. Okay.

[Raven Symone]

You can buy it there. And it's natural soap, so it's made from ash and palm kernel oil, and they cook it for hours. And it's one of the best stripping soaps that you have. It's great for skin if you have eczema, if you have any type of. Any type of problem. Acne.

[Jeff Lewis]

I had no idea this existed.

[Raven Symone]

It's amazing. It's very natural.

[Miranda Mayday]

It's squeaky.

[Jeff Lewis]

It will take my. Would it take my spray tan off?

[Raven Symone]

Yes, it will.

[Miranda Mayday]

Yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

Great.

[Raven Symone]

It'll take any oil, any spray tan, any glue. Like, you're clean.

[Jeff Lewis]

We're buying. What is it?

[Raven Symone]

African black soap.

[Jeff Lewis]

Will you write that down, please?

[Miranda Mayday]

We should send you some. We should send him the link to the one you got, because the one you got, too, it's. It has a little grit in it, and it's.

[Jeff Lewis]

How did you get it out of your hair? You use that soap on your hair? Yes, but it's dripping and damaging on your gorgeous hair.

[Miranda Mayday]

I mean, I had to. I had no choice. Like, I couldn't handle the smell. And the smell I could not escape, especially that night, because it was throughout the entire house. I'm not lying when I told you. Telling you I had to wrap my face in a T shirt to go to sleep. And I. And I brought filters into my room. The air filters.

[Raven Symone]

I'm really proud of her.

[Jeff Lewis]

My dog got sprayed when we lived in Los Feliz, and my entire house smelled for days. And days and days. I was worried I was gonna have to get rid of furniture. Like, it was so bad.

[Miranda Mayday]

I had that thought too, because I.

[Jeff Lewis]

You felt the oil on your face.

[Miranda Mayday]

My hands. It was on my face. Thank God.

[Raven Symone]

Good reflexes.

[Jeff Lewis]

Wow. Oh, you put your hands up and the oil hit your hands.

[Miranda Mayday]

Yeah, because I grabbed him because he. His Quinn's face took the bit of front of it.

[Jeff Lewis]

Now it was the skunk still in the backyard somewhere.

[Raven Symone]

You know, I came across. I came across the booty hole once before, but he didn't spray me.

[Jeff Lewis]

Because you didn't get close.

[Raven Symone]

I didn't scream.

[Jeff Lewis]

You didn't threaten him.

[Raven Symone]

You know what I mean?

[Miranda Mayday]

Well, if Quinn hadn't been messing with him, it would have been fine. Quinn was threatening him. This skunk, though, came back. There's supposed to be nocturnal. He came back at 6:30, it was still light out, and decided just to parade around the backyard. My yard. My yard. All three of us stood there and just watch him. Like, are you.

[Raven Symone]

He's so bold.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah.

[Miranda Mayday]

And I tried. This is very rude. I. I like animals, but I wanted to spook him. And one of the neighbor kids has a ball, like a little soft ball.

[Raven Symone]

That yellow one with the spice.

[Jeff Lewis]

You threw a ball at him?

[Raven Symone]

Oh, that's why that's in the backyard.

[Jeff Lewis]

So now you're pissing him off. So you're pissing him off.

[Raven Symone]

Yeah, that's what she's doing, aggravating him.

[Miranda Mayday]

You guys have to understand, I tried to throw this at him to get him out of the yard. Just be like, go. He was so. He looked at me like, bitch. He was so unfazed. He was just like, this is where I live.

[Raven Symone]

Like, I live in the valley. These are valley skunks. They don't care.

[Miranda Mayday]

Yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh, I didn't realize that. Valley skunks.

[Raven Symone]

Valley skunks gunk.

[Miranda Mayday]

And then. Yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

Now, what about the. You said the little baby raccoon was in the pool and it didn't drown,

[Raven Symone]

but that's another story.

[Caroline]

I'll just.

[Miranda Mayday]

I can. I mean, you want it now?

[Jeff Lewis]

Just real quick.

[Miranda Mayday]

Okay. Basically, I was hesitating because I heard that raccoons can be really aggressive and the baby was drowning. The two parents were like circling the pool. It was.

[Jeff Lewis]

It was terrible. Really sad.

[Miranda Mayday]

And I was seeing. I could see where our pool net was. But I was afraid if I went in, got that, and got the baby out, the parents might attack me because there were. It was feeling like a threat. So I was really back and forth and I'm watching this happen. I'm like oh my God. But I can't let it die. So I just opened the door to run out and the burglar alarm went off. And it went off at that high like emergency, emergency because I didn't turn it off before I opened it. It's like 5am and whatever that sound did spooked everyone so much that the baby like actually got itself to the ledge and then the parents pulled it out and then everyone ran away.

[Jeff Lewis]

You saved the baby's life.

[Miranda Mayday]

Yeah.

[Raven Symone]

Inadvertent the neighborhood and woke up the

[Jeff Lewis]

neighborhood, but you saved the baby.

[Miranda Mayday]

Yeah.

[Caroline]

And probably scared the skunk away for a little bit.

[Miranda Mayday]

Yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

You're a hero.

[Miranda Mayday]

Thank you.

[Raven Symone]

Jeff wow. Jeff Wow.

[Jeff Lewis]

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[Miranda Mayday]

Have you?

[Jeff Lewis]

What I'M gonna tell you is that it is everything.

[Raven Symone]

Oh, my God. The one we missed.

[Jeff Lewis]

It is the one episode. It is the episode I have been waiting for this season.

[Raven Symone]

What did you find out?

[Miranda Mayday]

No, don't.

[Jeff Lewis]

Well, it is action packed. I love when the monsters show up. I love when they attack people. I mean, it's just. It was everything for me.

[Raven Symone]

I'm so excited. I really. Can we. We can do a little bit of spoiler situation. The dolls in the water.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah.

[Raven Symone]

Okay. I get. Okay, great.

[Miranda Mayday]

I.

[Raven Symone]

The dad becoming an alcoholic again.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yes.

[Raven Symone]

Okay, what's going on there?

[Jeff Lewis]

Right?

[Raven Symone]

Harold getting his wife's hand up from. First of all, really, I'm sorry, Boyd, really bad shot. I was not okay with the shot choice of that Mr. D.P. that's just my judgment. And then I'm missing the hurt little boy who's now 85 years old. The one who has been in.

[Miranda Mayday]

Oh, yeah. You're missing him?

[Raven Symone]

I'm missing him. He's kind of gone into, you know what I'm talking about. The one who peed on himself when he saw the yellow shirt.

[Miranda Mayday]

Ethan, bff.

[Jeff Lewis]

I love that guy. He's. He was in episode seven.

[Raven Symone]

Good. Because this whole season he's been very quiet and very to himself and his character to me, along with Boyd, really

[Miranda Mayday]

does push the story because he's been so traumatized by the fact that he saw the yellow suit in the forest. And the yellow suit, man is that girl.

[Jeff Lewis]

Honey, that's a pretty good twist. That was a good idea to go

[Miranda Mayday]

and whatever is happening. Oh, my gosh. She.

[Jeff Lewis]

So there's Shane, Madonna.

[Miranda Mayday]

Oh, my God.

[Jeff Lewis]

Basically, you know, it's these people against these monsters. Right?

[Raven Symone]

Right.

[Jeff Lewis]

But one of the monsters now has transformed himself into a human, like this girl. And so he's infiltrated the group and it's insane.

[Raven Symone]

And he chose a girl that is a Bible thumper.

[Miranda Mayday]

That's how she came air quotes into the world with her preacher daddy. But the thing too, is that the reason that. That it's not just any monster. He's like a very, very bad monster. And he is the monster that Victor, that's his name, Victor saw when he was a little boy eating his mom's remains. And that's what's like triggered. Yeah. Yeah. So he's like the. He's like a bad baby.

[Jeff Lewis]

I can't believe you guys are as into this show as I am. Oscar, do you watch this show too?

[Raven Symone]

He sure does, yeah.

[Miranda Mayday]

But I haven't caught up. I'm on episode three.

[Jeff Lewis]

I gotta get back into it. Okay. But you know that the guy with the yellow suit is the girl now.

[Miranda Mayday]

Oh, yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay.

[Raven Symone]

It's so good. It's such a good show. The fact that it's lasted and it's going into its fifth season. There's not posters everywhere around it. There's no full on. You know, I think this season's been

[Jeff Lewis]

a bit, bit, bit slow because it really picks up in seven.

[Raven Symone]

Yeah, it has been slow, but I think it was so. Because nobody knew if they were gonna get picked up for five. So I mean.

[Caroline]

Yeah, let's just keep.

[Miranda Mayday]

And nobody knows.

[Raven Symone]

Exactly.

[Miranda Mayday]

Yeah, exactly. And none of the actors know what's happening.

[Raven Symone]

The mother does get on my nerves.

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh, yeah.

[Miranda Mayday]

I think she's Julie and Ethan's mom.

[Raven Symone]

Julie and Ethan's mom.

[Jeff Lewis]

Julian, Ethan, you know, all the Daves.

[Raven Symone]

Julian, Ethan's mom has made some really bad choices as a mother. She has left her children in that town by herself so she can go on a spirit trip.

[Jeff Lewis]

She's not a good mother.

[Raven Symone]

She is not selfish. It is very selfish.

[Miranda Mayday]

And so was the father.

[Raven Symone]

That's why he got home. They were both very.

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh, sorry. Do you know he's dead?

[Raven Symone]

Yeah, that happened in season three.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay, good. That was the cliffhanger. Okay, Just want to make sure we not really spoiling. You need to catch up.

[Miranda Mayday]

Minor spoiler alerts and we're telling you everything.

[Raven Symone]

How do you feel about the mom?

[Jeff Lewis]

You're right. I could take her or leave her. She's okay.

[Miranda Mayday]

Yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

I love the. Oh, God. What's the lady that runs the colony house?

[Miranda Mayday]

Donna.

[Raven Symone]

Donna who had the heart attack.

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh, yes. I love Donna.

[Miranda Mayday]

We love Donna too.

[Jeff Lewis]

She survived. Oscar.

[Miranda Mayday]

Sorry. She's fine.

[Raven Symone]

And then the golem that's gonna come. Does the Gollum come alive in seven?

[Miranda Mayday]

Don't. Don't answer that.

[Jeff Lewis]

I don't want to spoil the. Seven's so good. I don't want to ruin it. I don't want to ruin it. Seven is so good.

[Raven Symone]

We're text you in the morning.

[Jeff Lewis]

I was like, okay, I'm back. I'm back in.

[Miranda Mayday]

Yeah.

[Raven Symone]

Okay, great.

[Jeff Lewis]

What else are you watching?

[Raven Symone]

We just started Cape Fear.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay.

[Miranda Mayday]

Adams.

[Jeff Lewis]

Someone else told me to watch that. Yeah, okay.

[Raven Symone]

Really good. We saw don't with Cats, the documentary. It's an older doc, but it was good.

[Miranda Mayday]

And I had already seen it and then forgot and then watched it again and I was like, whoa.

[Jeff Lewis]

What's the one with Levy?

[Caroline]

Oh, Dan Levy.

[Jeff Lewis]

Dan Levy.

[Caroline]

Big mistakes.

[Jeff Lewis]

That's pretty good. I like it. I Like it.

[Raven Symone]

I like him. I don't watch a lot of comedy.

[Jeff Lewis]

Widow's Bay. I'm watching so good. It's good. I'm finished. Hacks. I love friends and neighbors. I finished that.

[Raven Symone]

I didn't get into that.

[Miranda Mayday]

You have a good TV watcher. You're like us.

[Raven Symone]

Widow's bay is a sleeper. Don't sleep on widow's Bay, you guys. It is really funny and really good. I love when the old hag sits on his face. His favorite scene.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah. Now, I don't want to start anything, but when you were here, you were talking about this tomato sauce that you made that made Raven cry. It was so good.

[Caroline]

You should have put it in your hair when he got sprayed by the scone.

[Raven Symone]

She should have actually.

[Miranda Mayday]

Can't waste it.

[Jeff Lewis]

No. Now we've got somebody here who he really takes pride in his cooking.

[Miranda Mayday]

Doug.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah. He said, and I just want to quote, he said that, oh, I know that recipe. It's not that special and it isn't a secret. That's exactly what he said. Not that special, isn't a secret.

[Raven Symone]

Wow, Doug, now you gotta talk to me.

[Jeff Lewis]

Somebody is really jealous.

[Raven Symone]

Doug, I'm need you to come over the house and let alone us feed you this and see if you try to hold back a tear.

[Miranda Mayday]

Doug. I don't think that Doug has had our fermented tomatoes though. And there I think here's the.

[Jeff Lewis]

He's very close minded, man.

[Miranda Mayday]

He's not judgmental. He's not wrong that there is no secret. There isn't a secret ingredient. I didn't say there was a secret.

[Raven Symone]

There is a secret ingredient.

[Miranda Mayday]

What?

[Raven Symone]

Skin cells, Right? You're not going to taste your fermented food is.

[Jeff Lewis]

And, and our cooked stem cells, I'm like, I'm down.

[Miranda Mayday]

I add them to my pasta.

[Raven Symone]

No, but this is something that I've been talking to Miranda about. There are people out there who's like, no one can cook like my mom. No one can cook like my grandma. You know why? Because she put her hand. She didn't cover her hands in gloves to cut your tomatoes or to cut the garlic. She put the garlic in her hand and cut it. She might have even smoked a cigarette while doing it. But it's the fact that the person who's cooking it, you enjoy and taste. You can taste the love. So that tomato sauce, when you come over, that's the love of me because I make the ferment, and my wife because she makes the tomato sauce. And when you blend it together, it's us.

[Jeff Lewis]

Doug's missing love in his. That's why it's a base. It's just a base. Cause there's no love.

[Caroline]

Right.

[Jeff Lewis]

You can't miss it. Yep. He's missing the most important ingredient, which is love.

[Miranda Mayday]

It's true though because there is no secret sauce to me. Because the recipe, it is an easy recipe. Taking tomatoes, garlic and butter or onion and butter, that's that. Yeah, that's standard. Like a thousand and one million bajillion people.

[Raven Symone]

But you need it in our pot and you need it in our kitchen.

[Miranda Mayday]

Yeah, the pot has a big difference. Yeah, the kitchen, the time, the.

[Jeff Lewis]

Are you country club girls?

[Raven Symone]

I've been to few.

[Jeff Lewis]

I just was curious if you would be interested in joining the Mulholland Hills Tennis Club. Just use code JEFF. 50% off initiation. I'm just making that up. But I could probably. But I could probably get 50% off initiation.

[Raven Symone]

How much has the country club?

[Miranda Mayday]

I've been to that club.

[Jeff Lewis]

It's not that much. Much.

[Raven Symone]

What is not that?

[Jeff Lewis]

Well, you can't do the golf. Golf is way too expensive and I don't golf. You don't need to.

[Raven Symone]

I'm not a sports lesbian. I'm an arts lesbian. So like do they have easels?

[Jeff Lewis]

No.

[Raven Symone]

Tuna melts.

[Caroline]

They cut the easel program.

[Raven Symone]

I. I love a tuna mo.

[Jeff Lewis]

I wanted to say really quick. I know this is off subject. We'll go back to the. I think it's pretty hot that you're like such a feminine girl, Miranda and that you back in when you park.

[Miranda Mayday]

Thanks, Jeff.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah, not like girly girls don't back in when they park.

[Caroline]

Yeah. You might hit a pole but you backed in.

[Miranda Mayday]

Yeah. It was a low hanging ceiling beam. Get it right back to the country club convo. I grew up with a family membership to the LATC and then my dad had his golf like memberships.

[Raven Symone]

What's latc, babe?

[Miranda Mayday]

Los Angeles Tennis Club, duh. I'm from a Georgia and I really liked it. I think that having that landing spot was cool. I used to go to tennis camp there as a kid. And then it was also kind of fun on the weekends to have a place where I could take my friends that on my own. Like my parents weren't worried about.

[Raven Symone]

It's called the mall.

[Miranda Mayday]

Yeah.

[Raven Symone]

But this was contained laser tag.

[Miranda Mayday]

You know what I mean? Like you weren't out in a mall world. So we could go there and go to the pool and like order chicken tenders and Arnold Palmer's and then like it was a vibe.

[Jeff Lewis]

It Was fun.

[Caroline]

That was a good train.

[Jeff Lewis]

So. So they put a lot of love in their drinks.

[Caroline]

Oh, the love and that bloody Mary. I can taste every sip.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yep.

[Miranda Mayday]

So did you just join Mulholland?

[Jeff Lewis]

Yes, and then I let Soho go because Shane said, oh, we just got a notification. They're gonna charge you six grand. I go, I literally have gone there twice in a year, which is gonna cost me, like, $3,000 a visit. No, thank you.

[Raven Symone]

I used to be a member of the house of Blues.

[Jeff Lewis]

Did you use it?

[Raven Symone]

Yes, because Prince would perform. I'd be in the small room underneath. Oh, I was there a lot back in the day. And I would still have that membership. Actually, it was worth it because it was also not $6,000.

[Jeff Lewis]

$6,000. I can't justify that. I don't use it enough.

[Raven Symone]

Listen, you got a pool in the back of your own house. I'll use some chicken fingers. There'll be chicken dinos, but they'll still be very good. We'll make you some honey mustard and call it a day.

[Jeff Lewis]

But I think they also put love in that. My Holland Cobb salad.

[Caroline]

Soho House. No love in those.

[Jeff Lewis]

No.

[Caroline]

No love.

[Raven Symone]

No love in Soho House. No generic food.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah, I didn't realize that. It's the absence of love.

[Caroline]

The hummus has no love every time period.

[Jeff Lewis]

Now you've got a big birthday coming up. Not that big, but 39.

[Miranda Mayday]

Yes. Yeah. In August.

[Jeff Lewis]

What do we want? Jeff, She's a gifts girl.

[Miranda Mayday]

I feel like we talk about, like,

[Caroline]

the gift for your 38th birthday or six months after.

[Jeff Lewis]

We also have an anniversary on June 16, so we need two gifts.

[Caroline]

Six years.

[Raven Symone]

What are you getting her?

[Jeff Lewis]

What is on your mind? What are you thinking? Do you want another Birkin since you took that one back from your sister, which we are going to talk about. But real quick, what do you. What are you thinking? Okay, probably new car now.

[Miranda Mayday]

Yeah, new car. New car would be so cool.

[Raven Symone]

I just put your name on this one.

[Caroline]

How about that?

[Miranda Mayday]

I. I haven't. You know what?

[Jeff Lewis]

You have thought about it.

[Miranda Mayday]

No, I'm going to disappoint you. I haven't really. It would be great to take a trip. We talked about that. I feel like. Like we could do one of the places on our bucket list. We really want to go to South Korea where I can get all of the facial treatments. You know, that would be great.

[Raven Symone]

After that, I'm done.

[Jeff Lewis]

That's a great birthday.

[Miranda Mayday]

Yeah, that's a great birthday. Sl. Anniversary birthday.

[Jeff Lewis]

K Beauty. It's all about K Beauty.

[Raven Symone]

It's all about K. Barbecue.

[Miranda Mayday]

It's all about K. Everything. We also never really took a proper honeymoon, so I feel like. Like we still have room to do that.

[Jeff Lewis]

It's so nice you still like each other.

[Raven Symone]

I was thinking that should be our 10th. This is just our six.

[Miranda Mayday]

That's a good idea.

[Raven Symone]

You know what I mean? This is just our six.

[Miranda Mayday]

Six is.

[Jeff Lewis]

But you might not be together when you're 10 in the 10th.

[Raven Symone]

It's something to look forward to, Jeff.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay. But I do like the idea of a trip.

[Miranda Mayday]

Yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

Especially one with K Beauty.

[Raven Symone]

Yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

A lot of treatments. Lot of. I'm doing Zerf today, by the way.

[Miranda Mayday]

Jeff, I'm mad at you. We were supposed to go together. We talked about this.

[Jeff Lewis]

I can talk to him. I'm gonna talk to him about you today. Cause I'm gonna get you the best possible price.

[Raven Symone]

What's going on? What is this?

[Jeff Lewis]

But she's not getting that. She's not getting that for her anniversary. Just so you know. She's just getting that.

[Miranda Mayday]

Babes, what do you want? What do you want, babe?

[Raven Symone]

Oh, my God. Somebody asked me what I want. This is crazy. Okay, let's think about it. I want a new dog.

[Jeff Lewis]

Ooh, that's a big commitment.

[Raven Symone]

I want another dog.

[Jeff Lewis]

That's a big commitment.

[Miranda Mayday]

That is a big commitment. And I said, I think we can do it, but it just has to be a little bit of a. A rest period in our schedule just so you can do that. You're about to leave to go.

[Jeff Lewis]

You're kicking that can down the road. Smart.

[Miranda Mayday]

Well, also, Raven, you need to raise it. You have to do this.

[Jeff Lewis]

Obviously, going to Korea. You'll want to get a puppy.

[Raven Symone]

I want to get a. I want to get a puppy in Korea.

[Miranda Mayday]

They're the cutest little.

[Raven Symone]

Little fur balls that are Japan. They're so cute. They fit in your pocket.

[Miranda Mayday]

Okay, we can do that. You can buy that, and I'll buy something else in Korea, and then we can come home fully happy. Both.

[Raven Symone]

Isn't it? As an anniversary? Aren't we supposed to switch the.

[Jeff Lewis]

We've decided. All right. I see the Birkin that you took back from your s. Now, you gave that Birkin to your sister how many years ago?

[Miranda Mayday]

It was loaned to her six years ago.

[Jeff Lewis]

It was given to her six years ago. And then you took it back. It's a beautiful bag. Can I ask how large it is?

[Raven Symone]

Medium. Medium Birkin.

[Jeff Lewis]

But I know they have, like, 32 and 40s and, like, which one is that? That's a perfect size. For travel?

[Raven Symone]

I'm not exactly sure, but I think I'm 30. Not Monroe.

[Jeff Lewis]

Um. It's beautiful. Now, did you have it hand painted?

[Raven Symone]

I had it hand painted by a fantastic artist by the name of Simpkin. And he's someone that I look up to in the art community. He started in graffiti art and now he does YouTube videos. But he painted that again. You know, the whole history of this bag.

[Miranda Mayday]

You can actually see the YouTube video on his channel. It's still there.

[Jeff Lewis]

It's very cool.

[Raven Symone]

Thank you.

[Jeff Lewis]

But did you devalue the bag?

[Raven Symone]

No, I didn't devalue the bag. Let me tell you why. Because when he starts selling more of his artwork in museums, the bag will appreciate. If he doesn't, then yes, but I don't care. You know why you should paint this Tesla.

[Jeff Lewis]

Paint the Tesla. Don't you think?

[Miranda Mayday]

Don't you think he will value that?

[Jeff Lewis]

He will value appreciate to the Tesla because you've devalued it when you ran into the pole.

[Miranda Mayday]

We should say it's painted with almost like a pocket watch. Strawberries. A woman's eyes. Those are raven's eyes. Those are raven's eyes.

[Jeff Lewis]

There's a bee.

[Raven Symone]

Yes. There's a theme to it.

[Jeff Lewis]

What color is that?

[Raven Symone]

Nude neutral gray with the gold hardware. Yeah, I was really proud of that find. Really proud of that find.

[Jeff Lewis]

So is your sister. How is she doing after you took the gift away from her?

[Miranda Mayday]

She's fine. I think the thing to also remember everyone, because some people came. Came for me after this conversation is,

[Jeff Lewis]

well, yeah, I can see why.

[Miranda Mayday]

This was a bag that Raven, again, had purchased and painted for her ex. This was like a proposal. So I was like, there's bad juju around it. Raven's like, you can just have it. You know, it's whatever. Also, it's like, Mimi, my sister doesn't have to be carrying this bag with raven's eyes on it. That's weird to carry.

[Jeff Lewis]

No one knows it's raven's eyes. No one knows until you point it out. And this is where you're reaching. Why would anyone want to carry around a bag with raven's eyes? I would.

[Caroline]

I would carry it right now.

[Miranda Mayday]

Can we see the back of it? Whatever.

[Jeff Lewis]

Guys, you have to post it. Oh, it's a bee. Oh, I like the bee on it.

[Raven Symone]

The bee's work is amazing. Really?

[Jeff Lewis]

No, I really like his work. He's a great job.

[Raven Symone]

My ex and I, anything that I bought her, I had to get back. And anything she bought me, I gave back.

[Caroline]

To her.

[Jeff Lewis]

So that was a silly thing to get back.

[Raven Symone]

No, it's fine. She got. We're good. Everything is fine.

[Jeff Lewis]

And so I hope it was equitable because it sounds like you got the better end of the deal with that Birkin.

[Raven Symone]

No, she. She got some Gucci shoes. She got some stuff. She bought me some stuff.

[Jeff Lewis]

No, I was. I didn't realize because Monica Casey was on the show a lot. She's very into crystals and she actually wears them in her bra every day. You do you wear them on yourself as well? So they're on person?

[Miranda Mayday]

Yes.

[Jeff Lewis]

Where do you keep them exactly?

[Raven Symone]

I keep them around my neck sometimes I put them in my hair. I've. You know the little weed pocket in your jeans? Yeah, I put it in there sometimes and I'll keep it in my bag depending on what evil area I'm walking into.

[Jeff Lewis]

So do you have crystals around the home too?

[Miranda Mayday]

Ye.

[Raven Symone]

A lot.

[Jeff Lewis]

And do you carry it with them when you travel?

[Raven Symone]

Yes, I will. I will carry probably one of my smoky quartz pyramids and my regular quartz and a selenite.

[Jeff Lewis]

Where did you read about all of these? Like what each one accomplishes?

[Raven Symone]

I've been in this spiritual crystal world since I was 18 years old. I've been a part. I was a Namyoho Renge Kyo person for a really long time.

[Jeff Lewis]

Don't know what you just.

[Raven Symone]

I was a Nicham Buddhist practitioner for a while and then I've also been.

[Jeff Lewis]

She making shit up right now.

[Raven Symone]

No, I'm not. You can look it up. It's the thing that Tina Turner used to say all the time.

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh, chant.

[Raven Symone]

It's a chant. But then I also have been a part of quote unquote, new age and universe spirituality. I'll show you my tats. I'm tatted from top to bottom with all spiritual beasts.

[Jeff Lewis]

I don't want to cause any problems, but is it true that Miranda left them on the balcony and somebody stole them?

[Raven Symone]

No. Yes and no. It's true that. That she lost one of my most expensive crystals. A unicorn clear quartz crystal. $600.

[Jeff Lewis]

No.

[Miranda Mayday]

You guys are so funny. Over here.

[Raven Symone]

And gone, gone, gone.

[Jeff Lewis]

You must be so upset.

[Raven Symone]

That's why. You know what we're getting for Valentine? I'm sorry? Our anniversary.

[Jeff Lewis]

What?

[Raven Symone]

Whatever happens on the 10th year anniversary, we're just moving everything down to 10 years down.

[Miranda Mayday]

I just have to say I didn't lose it. I. Raven told me to put them on the balcony.

[Raven Symone]

You see how all the stories about her starts with me? Yes, it's correct. You guys.

[Jeff Lewis]

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