Susan Powter & Sarah Colonna: RVs & Wet Women

Summary

Jeff Lewis Has Issues – Episode Summary

Podcast: Jeff Lewis Has Issues
Episode: Susan Powter & Sarah Colonna: RVs & Wet Women
Date: October 10, 2025
Host: Jeff Lewis
Guests: Susan Powter (fitness personality, author), Sarah Colonna (comedian, author)
Main Theme:
A quirky, candid discussion about Susan’s dream to transition to full-time RV life, seasoned with practical advice, heartfelt moments, vivid stories, and the hilarious banter that defines Jeff Lewis’s show. Also highlighted: the excitement around Susan's new documentary, and listener interactions on RV living and independence.

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into Susan Powter’s plans to give up conventional living in favor of RV life—her motivation, anxieties, and the logistics of pursuing this kind of freedom at 67. The trio digress into deeply personal analogies, reminisce about past careers, and riff on the joys, pitfalls, and idiosyncratic culture of both RV living and 1990s fitness. A recurring focus is Susan’s emerging film project and her no-apologies approach to reinvention.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Breaking News: Susan’s Documentary Gets Distribution

• Susan Powter shares exclusive news: Her documentary "Kids Real One" just secured film distribution, heading to select theaters November 19th and later available widely ([01:27]).
  • Highlight: “The highest compliment we got was Shane saying Jeff doesn't sit still for anything. And he watched it and didn't move.” – Susan ([01:44])
• The panel celebrates a rare movie-going occasion, with plans for a group viewing.

2. RV Living: The Philosophy and The Reality

• Susan’s Motivation: She’s over apartment/house life, wanting to “live in a trailer for the rest of my life… Palm Springs is a vibe.” ([03:44])
  • She prefers a vintage, compact 19-foot RV, “the tiniest RV,” craving freedom and minimalism.
  • “All I want is a gas stove… I don’t do electric… my other one had old-school windows you rolled out.” ([14:03])
• Financial Realities:
  • Jeff warns of depreciation, hidden expenses (gas, insurance, repairs, space rentals). "It is very expensive. It is actually an expensive life." ([05:32])
  • Susan rebuts: “The good news now is that the RV market is in the toilet.” Even so, they agree on costs being at least $2,500/month when including everything ([26:49]).
• Susan’s Pragmatism vs. Dream: Admits she keeps cash in envelopes, has no credit, plans for a $5,000 down payment. “It’s in the envelope… gonna go get a dog…” ([08:10])
  • “All I want is to be free. I want crystals, my dog, and me!” ([09:16])
• Decor & Design:
  • Susan insists the whole interior will be painted “cherry red.” Jeff pleads for compromise, fearing resale issues. ([16:13], [27:45])

3. RV Life Culture and Stereotypes

• Who are RV people?
  • Susan: “I don’t want RV friends.” Jeff jokes: ask if it’s a swinger community ([20:45], [20:54]).
  • Callers share positive experiences: Marianne from Florida said she “absolutely loved” living in a camper and met “the nicest people… it’s a vibe.” ([23:36])
  • Sarah/Jeff joke about getting RVs just for the drinking-friendly, communal culture ([21:01])
• Safety & Security:
  • Susan shares a dramatic story of her dog protecting her in a casino RV lot robbery ([18:03]).
  • On practicalities, she notes, “I have my axe, and it will be in there” ([17:58]).

4. Minimalist, Nomadic Mindset

• Letting Go: Susan will only keep photos, giving up all possessions (“Everything else goes, except the children—they can visit. But other than that, everything's gone.” [13:53])
• Clothing: She now wears only black sweats, “done with dress, done with clothing,” but is sent a Macy’s gift card for “cute workout clothes” ([34:09], [35:23]).
  • “I call it exercise chic—sweats, but with heels and a wrap I made to die for.” ([34:49])

5. Finances, Logistics & Listener Advice

• Listener Q&A:
  • Average costs: Space rentals about $40/night plus expenses ([24:25])
  • Essentials: AAA RV membership is strongly advised by a caller ([44:13]).
  • Hookups: Most parks have electricity, water, showers, and full facilities ([25:55])
• Repairs, Upgrades, and Depreciation: The group grapples with longevity, restrictions on trailer park age, and painting risks.

6. Making a Living on the Road

• Earning Model: Currently driving Uber Eats and selling a book. Jeff jokes about “counting your chickens before they hatch—literally,” as Susan wants chickens in her RV ([09:48], [10:00])
• Podcasting & Teaching Opportunities:
  • Listener Steve suggests Susan podcast while “following the sun” in her RV; Sarah claims credit for raising it first ([39:45], [40:01]).
  • Jeff and Producer suggest pop-up or masterclass formats for Susan’s signature intense fitness/yoga classes (“People don't expect me to have lost my flexibility… we’ll all do it together.” [41:19])

7. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “You know what I had on my RV years ago… when you open the RV, on the stairs, it said ‘Wet Women’… It was the best time of my life.” – Susan ([07:22])
• “It’s like driving around a little apartment. It really is.” – Marianne, caller ([25:59])
• “I want to be homeless and naked.” – Susan ([28:45])
• “You can come. I'll make you dinner. I'll pull in, I'll pull it downstairs. You can come on down and have breakfast with me.” – Susan, inviting Jeff to the RV ([12:23])
• “Jeff Lewis is where dreams go to die, okay?” – Sarah ([27:19])

8. The Jose Saga

• Update on beloved maintenance man Jose: He was let go from Susan’s apartment complex, which she laments greatly, stating she no longer feels as safe or cared for ([48:44]).
  • “I do not feel as safe without Jose. The property is not being managed properly.” – Susan ([50:34])

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Highlighted Timestamps

• 01:27 — Susan breaks documentary news
• 03:44 — Susan's RV and minimalist living vision
• 05:32 — Jeff discusses the downfall of expensive RV ownership
• 09:16 — Susan on what “freedom” looks like
• 13:53 — Susan’s radical approach to possessions (“Everything goes, except the children.”)
• 16:13 — “Cherry red” RV interior debate
• 20:54 — “It's a swinger community, kind of.” (Sarah/Jeff’s RV culture joke)
• 23:36 — Caller Marianne shares glowing RV living experience
• 24:25 — Realistic costs of space rentals
• 27:45 — Jeff pleads not to paint the RV red (for resale)
• 34:09 — Susan’s sweats-only wardrobe; Jeff gifts Macy’s card
• 41:19 — Susan on returning to teaching fitness/yoga
• 44:13 — AAA RV membership tip from a caller
• 48:44 — The fate of beloved maintenance man Jose

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Tone, Style & Audience Experience

The tone is unscripted, quick-witted, and irreverent—emphasizing Jeff’s skeptical, comedic voice, Susan’s eccentric confidence, and Sarah’s good-natured skepticism. The episode is packed with laughs and life wisdom, offering both practical detail and big-hearted encouragement for anyone considering radical life changes or chasing long-held dreams.

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For New Listeners

This summary covers the heart of the episode—Susan’s quest for liberation through RV living, the realities and expenses of that dream, nostalgic stories and unexpected moments of vulnerability, and the persistent support and ribbing from Jeff and Sarah. It’s a heartfelt, anarchic celebration of moving forward—on wheels, in sweats, painted in cherry red, and against all the odds.

Transcript

[Jeff Lewis]

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[Susan Powder]

On October 17th. I'm an angel.

[Sarah Colonna]

See the wings.

[Jeff Lewis]

Don't miss the new comedy Good Fortune, starring Seth Rogen, Aziz Ansari and Keanu Reeves. Critics rave Eats Heaven sent me out of a budget.

[Susan Powder]

Guardian angel, kinda. You were very unhelpful.

[Jeff Lewis]

Good Fortune, directed by Aziz Ansari.

[Sarah Colonna]

Rated R. When you're Jeff Lewis, the drama never stops.

[Jeff Lewis]

Doug said it was dumb, but maybe I'm dumb because I enjoy it. Maybe I'm just talking about the news. We don't talk about the news here.

[Susan Powder]

No, just sex.

[Jeff Lewis]

There's gotta be that one actor that nobody likes. Cause we have that here.

[Caller/Listener]

Oh, my God.

[Sarah Colonna]

Who is it?

[Jeff Lewis]

Me.

[Sarah Colonna]

Jeff Lewis has issues.

[Jeff Lewis]

Hey, it's Jeff Lewis and I have issues. In today's episode, Susan Powder and Sarah Colonna join the show. We talk about making RV friends, wet women, and the disappearance of Jose. I hear you have some very good news to share with us today.

[Susan Powder]

Yeah, I think you're breaking it. I'm not kidding. It just came out at 9 o'. Clock. I think the Jeff Lewis live show is the first one to say the Deadline magazine just announced. Guess what? There's a movie.

[Jeff Lewis]

Kids Real one documentary got distribution.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yay.

[Jeff Lewis]

It's going into select theaters in November. Correct?

[Susan Powder]

November 19th. And then it's gonna be available everywhere for everyone. I want the world. Jeff Lewis. The highest compliment we got was Shane saying Jeff doesn't sit still for anything. And he watched it and didn't move. That's the highest compliment ever.

[Sarah Colonna]

I'm going to the theater to see it. I haven't been to the theater in a while.

[Jeff Lewis]

Really? Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

I'm going.

[Jeff Lewis]

Are you going to go with you?

[Sarah Colonna]

Okay, let's go together.

[Jeff Lewis]

No, you said you didn't want to see it.

[Susan Powder]

No, no, I won't. I'll just. I'll walk her in, we'll sit down. I'll go outside. I still have not seen it, Jeff.

[Sarah Colonna]

That's not really going with me, is it?

[Susan Powder]

No, it is.

[Jeff Lewis]

No, it is.

[Sarah Colonna]

Maybe we could do like escorting me into the theater and then leaving.

[Jeff Lewis]

You haven't seen the doc?

[Sarah Colonna]

No, I haven't seen it yet.

[Jeff Lewis]

You read the book. But you didn't.

[Sarah Colonna]

I read the book, yes, but you.

[Jeff Lewis]

Didn'T see the documentary.

[Sarah Colonna]

And we interviewed her and we had.

[Susan Powder]

The greatest we had on the podcast. I am in love with John. I'm not kidding.

[Jeff Lewis]

Everyone's in love with John.

[Susan Powder]

He's like the nicest man I've ever met. Good looking football player. Nice.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah.

[Susan Powder]

Get out.

[Producer/Assistant]

I'm rich.

[Susan Powder]

Is he rich? Sarah, is he rich?

[Jeff Lewis]

Yes.

[Susan Powder]

John. You didn't tell me that. John, why don't you.

[Jeff Lewis]

That really nice Sherman Oaks one with the bar and the.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, the reclining seats at the Galleria.

[Jeff Lewis]

Right Next.

[Sarah Colonna]

It's right. It's walking distance to our house.

[Jeff Lewis]

That's where we should go if it's in that theater.

[Sarah Colonna]

Pretty sure I have a gift card for it too. I got it for my stocking last year.

[Susan Powder]

Well, you bloody well need it. Because now, I mean, I went to see the Last Showgirl. I haven't been to a movie. My oldest son is 27. Literally. I've never seen Gone to a movie since he's been born. And I went to see the Last Showgirl. Cause Jamie Lee, we love Pam and we love. We love. I was shocked. It was like $90 for popcorn. I was like, what?

[Sarah Colonna]

What is.

[Susan Powder]

God, it was crazy. But anyway, for my movie. You want to go see it? Absolutely.

[Sarah Colonna]

Look at the poster. Jameson has that up.

[Susan Powder]

Is that. Look at me.

[Sarah Colonna]

That's a really cool.

[Susan Powder]

When I did that, they thought I was out of my mind. I screamed, stopped the insanity. They were like, nobody's gonna look there we are a thousand years later.

[Sarah Colonna]

This is very exciting.

[Jeff Lewis]

So now what? So the last time you were here, you were talking about you love Palm Springs. So many people do, and that you were. But you said you love Palm Springs, you would live there. Is that correct?

[Susan Powder]

Well, you know, I live in trailers. I'll never live in a house as long as I live again, I don't want an apartment, a condo and anything ever.

[Producer/Assistant]

Are you out of your apartment?

[Susan Powder]

No, I live in my little apartment. But the minute I can get the rv, which we're counting on December, I'm gonna put a deposit down and I'm gonna get an RV and I'm gonna live in a trailer for the rest of my life. And Palm Springs is a vibe. And that's the only place where you can actually have a trailer and live there. They have an ordinance that says you can't kick trailer people out.

[Jeff Lewis]

But you don't want like a trailer that you pull at the end of a truck.

[Susan Powder]

No, I had a pull at a 1952 pull. No, I want either a truck with the house on top. You know, the old school. I don't want a new. I want old. No bigger than a 19 foot. I want the tiniest RV.

[Sarah Colonna]

You don't want the, like a drivable one, the RV.

[Susan Powder]

Yeah, I do an RV. But the small, small ones, like tiny ones. I don't want the, you know, the fold outs and all that crap and the.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay.

[Susan Powder]

No. In a trailer for the rest of my life on land with animals. A lot of them.

[Jeff Lewis]

So wait, will you own. Are you thinking of buying the land and then putting the RV on the land?

[Susan Powder]

Well, first I'm going to get the RV soon. In two months, I'm going to be going out to America. Bye. Just me. I'm going to get a dog because my dog died. I'm going to get a dog. And I'm going, yeah, dead dog. Here we go.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay, but let's, let's just, let's just talk about this. Okay. So my uncle had a similar idea.

[Susan Powder]

Yes.

[Jeff Lewis]

And so he and his wife, they sold their home in Orange county, lot of money. Like a million two. This is a million years ago. And they put the money in the bank. They bought a very expensive RV. I want to say 300 grand. Like one of the really huge, nice ones with all the pop outs, the whole thing. Now that thing depreciated. I mean, that thing depreciated. Depreciated so fast. Like it was probably worth. But I think they had it for 10 years. It was probably worth less than $50,000.

[Sarah Colonna]

Because they keep making newer versions, right?

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah, you get miles on it, the whole thing. The only thing I'm going to tell you is that it is very expensive. It is actually an expensive life.

[Susan Powder]

I know it is. I know. I know what you're saying. The good news now is that the RV market is in the toilet.

[Jeff Lewis]

But it's not the rv, it's not the rv. It's gas. Which by the way, he would tell me be like $700 to fill the tank and then it is all of the space rentals and it adds up. So because they had this whole idea, oh, this is our retirement, we're gonna put the cash in the bank. So we have that for a rainy day. We can live off the interest and then we've got our Social Security and all of that. It was a disaster financially and I'm sure.

[Susan Powder]

Cause they did the big. I totally get that. I've lived in an RV for two years on the road, a small mini, you know, little 19 footer. But I'm not gon be pulling into nice spot. I'm going to be RVing it. I'm going to be trashy. But you're right, it is not the best investment on earth. And probably a house would be better.

[Jeff Lewis]

But what if we do both? What if we have a little place somewhere?

[Susan Powder]

Do you know the funniest thing that Zeb said to me once? I said, I'm going to go. I'm going to go live. I'm just going to camp. I'm just going to camp. And he said, susan, maybe you want to go camping for the weekend.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yes.

[Susan Powder]

I was like, no, I'm moving. I'm going camping forever.

[Jeff Lewis]

You're all in. You are all in.

[Susan Powder]

I'm all in.

[Sarah Colonna]

Jeff. Get a house and then park a little trailer in the driveway and look at it.

[Jeff Lewis]

What if we rent one? How about we rent one for now? Let's just rent one and let's take it on a few weekends. Let's just kind of.

[Susan Powder]

Yeah. You know, just the problem is, is the first thing that's happening, that's why it's not going to be new. The first thing that's happening is I'm painting the whole thing China red. I'm putting crystals, I'm putting Christmas lights and I'm putting leopard it. The whole thing is going to be.

[Jeff Lewis]

That will absolutely improve the value.

[Susan Powder]

I know, I know it will. Jeff Lewis. It'll never be able to be sold.

[Jeff Lewis]

I know. No one will want it.

[Susan Powder]

It's going to have like crazy witchy things.

[Jeff Lewis]

What if we did the witchy things inside? That could always come down, you know what I mean? Later, if you want to resell it.

[Susan Powder]

Do you know what I had on my RV years ago when I did a tour on an RV that I did with an ex girlfriend and it was the most. I had the most fun ever. Not the point. But I went to the hardware store and I got wet paint. You know the sign, wet paint. We pulled into some places, let me tell you. And I cut it up and when you open the RV on the stairs, it said wet women. It was two lesbians traveling. Go girls. And we pulled into like Fort Wayne, Indiana. Jeff Lewis. And we Would open it up and have our barbecue. I'd be making organic stuff. We'd be making love with our signs and our flags. It was the best time of my life.

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh, my God. My neighbors are gonna love when that RV pulls up parked out front.

[Susan Powder]

For real. So, anyway, it's all good.

[Jeff Lewis]

How much do you think we need for the rv?

[Susan Powder]

I'm gonna put down. I'm trying to put down. You know, it's in the envelope. I know, Jeff. I'm sorry, but I know I've traumatized the hell out of you, but it's in the envelope. I'm gonna put down, like, $5,000. Cause I don't have credit. You know what I mean? Everything's good.

[Jeff Lewis]

I was gonna ask you if you had credit.

[Susan Powder]

No. Are you kidding?

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay.

[Susan Powder]

What, you think I preserved that? But nothing. No, no. And it's all good. I don't need.

[Jeff Lewis]

How much cash do you have in the envelope right now?

[Susan Powder]

Right now there's 1,700. And then this week there's gonna be another three. So there's gonna be like 5,000. That's my deposit. And it's my birthday on December 22, so I'm gonna go get a.

[Sarah Colonna]

You have birthday. I'm December 29th.

[Jeff Lewis]

But you have no credit. Are you gonna buy something for. How are you gonna buy something for free?

[Susan Powder]

No, you put it down. No, because the industry's in the. It's fine. I'm gonna go and get it done. $6,000. Whatever. Put it down. I'm gonna have my $500 payment, and I'm on the road. Jeff Lewis.

[Sarah Colonna]

So you count on. You count on driving it around. You're not going to, like, park it and stay?

[Susan Powder]

No, I'm in a park most of the time. I'm not. I'm not rural, you know, I'm not. I. I don't want to drive.

[Jeff Lewis]

We really need to, like, we really need to maybe figure out the expenses here, because, yeah, you're going to have the payment. Yeah, you're going to have insurance. You're going to have registration. You're going to have gas. I'm worried that this is more than rent. And then you have to pay the space. Rent.

[Susan Powder]

It's going to be a little bit more than rent. But you know what? I'm going to have. Jeff Lewis.

[Sarah Colonna]

Crystals.

[Susan Powder]

I'm going to have crystals. And I'm going to have freedom. I'm gonna have freedom. I'm gonna have my dog and me. And I'm just gonna be out there meeting everyone. Come on let's meet in the parking lot.

[Jeff Lewis]

But right now the income is coming from the Uber eats.

[Susan Powder]

Oh, no. You know, I'm so. Well, I'm still doing Uber. Yeah. But you know, my book is selling thank. Oh, by the way, hi, chumps. I really. My apologies. I was. I was gonna start out by saying, hi, chumps. Hi, chumps. And thank you. No, no. You know, I have my book and we have a movie coming out and I'm doing things and appearances and your show. Here I am. Thank you.

[Jeff Lewis]

But are we counting our chickens before they.

[Susan Powder]

Oh, speaking of chickens. I'm going to have chickens. Too big. She's literally counting our chickens before I have counted chickens.

[Jeff Lewis]

That's not what I really. What I meant.

[Sarah Colonna]

That's also going to increase the value by far. If you have chickens inside of it. Yeah, they get to be in there.

[Jeff Lewis]

Why just a 19 foot? Because you're going.

[Susan Powder]

Oh, no, the tiniest.

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh, but you're going from an apartment.

[Susan Powder]

To a. I want smaller.

[Jeff Lewis]

We need some pop out.

[Susan Powder]

No, I am a tiny. Oh, I would. I would be mortified to have a pop out.

[Sarah Colonna]

To have space.

[Susan Powder]

Oh, my God.

[Sarah Colonna]

To have places to have room to move. Room to move, stretch out.

[Susan Powder]

No, no, I would be more. No, no, I want old. The only reason I'm not getting vintage is because they don't allow them in. It has to be 10 years or older. Otherwise I get a 1957 with smoke coming out of the dam. Whatever. I'd be Priscilla Queen of the Desert.

[Jeff Lewis]

Repairs, too. Repairs are huge.

[Susan Powder]

Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

You're buying a used car.

[Susan Powder]

Oh, Jeff, I'll be so fine. I'm gonna go live. I'm gon. Are you planning to do food delivery from wherever in the country you are? Listen, the day that I say Uber's done, you know, I mean, I'll do what I do.

[Jeff Lewis]

How much is that? That's cute.

[Producer/Assistant]

Yeah.

[Susan Powder]

Is that a 19 footer? Let's take a picture.

[Jeff Lewis]

That is actually kind of cute.

[Susan Powder]

Super cute.

[Sarah Colonna]

Okay. Go live in it, Jeff. I'll see how cute you think it is.

[Susan Powder]

Jeff, I heard you on the show recently. I literally like when you were talking about the lemon lime water that you went to the spa or the gym and I literally said out loud, has this man never walked into a gym in his life? I can make you the best. I can make you organic strawberry blueberry water that you would die for. I make it all the time. Fruit water.

[Sarah Colonna]

What about Celsius? Have you ever made Celsius?

[Susan Powder]

No, I have not. I have not.

[Jeff Lewis]

I Know that infused water is so good.

[Susan Powder]

Oh, you would.

[Jeff Lewis]

And I. I'm drinking so much water right now.

[Producer/Assistant]

Look at how good his skin looks because of all the infused water.

[Jeff Lewis]

It's infused water.

[Susan Powder]

It is. Of course it is. You could also eat the fruit. You could also bite into the lemon.

[Producer/Assistant]

Oh, you won't.

[Jeff Lewis]

I do cucumber, lemon.

[Sarah Colonna]

I do just lemon every morning. Lemon water every morning.

[Susan Powder]

Yeah. Lemon is everything.

[Sarah Colonna]

That's what you'd like to know.

[Jeff Lewis]

I know, but if you have it infused and you have it there in.

[Susan Powder]

Little carafe thing, just refreshing.

[Jeff Lewis]

It's. It's so refreshing. We just drink it all day.

[Susan Powder]

Out of curiosity, have you ever put basil in water? I have. And I put mint.

[Jeff Lewis]

Mint. Mint. I'm behind mint.

[Susan Powder]

Mint is good.

[Jeff Lewis]

Mint is good. Not basil.

[Susan Powder]

Well, basil is everywhere. Basil is healing.

[Jeff Lewis]

Nobody. Nobody does basil.

[Susan Powder]

Basil is ancient and healing and so stupid. Yeah, it's outdated. It's outdated. It's old. It's done. That's what it is.

[Jeff Lewis]

I can't talk you out of this?

[Susan Powder]

No, but you know what? I will be in direct contact anytime you want. You can come. I'll make you dinner. I'm telling you, you'll do. I'll pull in, I'll pull it downstairs. You can come on down and have breakfast with me.

[Producer/Assistant]

Let's do it.

[Susan Powder]

Yes.

[Jeff Lewis]

She can't go in P4.

[Susan Powder]

What's. No, I won't P4. We can't do any P4s anything. I'm just out. I'm out in the wild. It's me in the wild at 67. Imagine.

[Jeff Lewis]

Do we have a payment idea, like where you're going to be, payment wise?

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah.

[Susan Powder]

I think it's probably going to be like 600amonth with a thing, and then no rent anymore.

[Jeff Lewis]

What is your rent right now?

[Susan Powder]

Oh, my God. It used to be 800, which I got in there by the skin of my bloody teeth. It's now like 1100 or something, which I'm just not. I'm not. I don't want a sofa. I don't want a chair. I don't want any. I don't want anything.

[Sarah Colonna]

Where are you going to sit? You don't have a sofa or chair.

[Susan Powder]

No, you sit in. Everything's built in a Winnebago.

[Jeff Lewis]

She means she doesn't have to own any furniture.

[Susan Powder]

No, I don't.

[Jeff Lewis]

So are you getting rid of everything? Don't get another storage.

[Susan Powder]

I don't have anything and it's fine. No, no, only photos. The photo. I have it. Worth a Million dollars. Okay, Remember what Debbie Reynolds said? I have the movies to prove it.

[Jeff Lewis]

Now what did she say?

[Susan Powder]

She said it to Carrie Fisher. Who? We adore both of them, of course. And when Carrie went in Postcards from the Edge, she was the first woman who had a complete drug mental break. It wasn't done back then, and it was embarrassing and hard and you know Meryl Streep, the movie? Debbie Reynolds went to visit her, her mother in the psych ward and she said, you did have a happy childhood. I have the movies to prove it. Never forgot that line. Oh, never. For great line. I got the movies to prove it. Archival footage.

[Jeff Lewis]

So you're holding onto the photos. Everything else goes.

[Susan Powder]

Everything's gone. Everything except the children. They can come and visit, but other than that, everything's gone.

[Jeff Lewis]

So they come to you to visit?

[Susan Powder]

I want to be free.

[Producer/Assistant]

I mean, it's cozy.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, it is.

[Jeff Lewis]

Can I say it?

[Susan Powder]

All I want is a gas stove. They're illegal now. That's cute. I don't do electric. All I want is the little inbuilt table. And my other one had like, the old school windows that you rolled out. The real windows. Can't do that anymore.

[Jeff Lewis]

What year are we looking at here?

[Susan Powder]

As just over. Like, as close to what they won't let into a trailer park, which means next year. Why do we have to get in.

[Jeff Lewis]

But why do we have to get into an old, old one? Why can't we get one that's a couple years old?

[Susan Powder]

Because I love old.

[Jeff Lewis]

I know, but we're gonna worry about it.

[Susan Powder]

I like dusty, I like old. I like wind up, I hate. And I bought a car and paid extra. My son bought it for me. A Chevy, whatever it was years ago. We paid extra to have manual windows because I didn't want electric. But wait, we paid extra? He did.

[Sarah Colonna]

If they won't let anything over 10 years old, does that mean once? Like once it's 10 years old? Are you grandfathered in after that or are you gonna have to buy?

[Susan Powder]

No, you're screwed.

[Producer/Assistant]

So what are you gonna do in three years?

[Susan Powder]

Oh, I don't know. I'll have my own land then. True, Shane. I'll have my own land. You'll come to the land. And anyone who isn't invited a thing with the land. I said it and I mean it. I've said this publicly. There's gonna be a moat around a literal moat. And anyone who tries to come that isn't invited, I'm gonna spit poison darts at them. So you need an Invitation, Shane. Do not show up on plan.

[Jeff Lewis]

We should pick up one of those burnout lots in Malibu. She could park her rv.

[Susan Powder]

Oh, well, you know, they had that great RV park there that burned down. You know, it was there for Matthew McConaughey. Had an Airstream there a thousand years ago. According to the Internet, a rough query finds a 20. 20. 19 foot Winnebago will run you somewhere between 18 to 35k. Yeah, and we're not paying that. We're just gonna put a deposit down and have a $600 a month payment. There it is. There's my rent. There's my house.

[Sarah Colonna]

And then she gets booted after almost 10 years old.

[Susan Powder]

No, but I'll be.

[Jeff Lewis]

It's okay.

[Susan Powder]

I'll be in my land. I will have a home. All I've wanted is a home that I own. And I love an RV because I'm like a turtle. Everything's on my back. I can make. I could do. I don't need anything. I'm happy. I'd be happy living.

[Jeff Lewis]

I want to start looking for RVs for Susan. Okay, let's look around.

[Susan Powder]

Cheap, old, not, you know, 10 years for now and then, you know, I just want to paint it red and go, I'm ready to go.

[Jeff Lewis]

Do we have to paint it red?

[Susan Powder]

Have to not even find a red one? Would I, Jeff Lewis, Would you tolerate those plaid bloody sofas that are in RVs? Look at the picture.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay, I understand about recovering it, but why do we have to paint the outside red?

[Susan Powder]

I'm going to recover it in major graffiti.

[Jeff Lewis]

The promise is that that's. I mean, the cops are going to.

[Susan Powder]

Stop you from a mile.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, and everyone's going to know it's you.

[Susan Powder]

No, no, no. Inside red. Inside, red. Outside different. Inside red. Cherry red, China red.

[Jeff Lewis]

The walls are just everything.

[Susan Powder]

The whole bloody thing. Jeff Lewis. The ceilings, the floor, everything.

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh, my God.

[Susan Powder]

The picnic table, red.

[Sarah Colonna]

Maybe he'll just meet you somewhere for breakfast instead of coming up.

[Susan Powder]

Oh, my God. I didn't even realize I'm saying this to a genius designer.

[Sarah Colonna]

Slash.

[Susan Powder]

Oh, my God, you must be horrified.

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh, my God.

[Producer/Assistant]

Okay, I sourced a good one. I found a good one.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay, what did you find? Tell us.

[Producer/Assistant]

Well, I found a 25 footer for $31,000.

[Susan Powder]

No, it has to be 19. Can. Why?

[Jeff Lewis]

Why can't we get a 25?

[Susan Powder]

You know why. I'll tell you why. No, I've done it. I've done it. You can drive inner city. You can park in parking lots. I don't Need a car? Because otherwise, then you need to tow a bloody car.

[Sarah Colonna]

I'm not towing a car if it's over 19 foot.

[Susan Powder]

The tiny, the smaller. The Japanese have one. Of course you can't get it. You can't import anything now. But you're the tiny ones. Sexy. Very sexy.

[Jeff Lewis]

The smaller, the better Japanese one.

[Susan Powder]

Okay.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yep. Speaking of, look how happy you are.

[Jeff Lewis]

Just makes me laugh every time he plays it.

[Susan Powder]

It's the worst. That's horrifying. That is so good.

[Jeff Lewis]

So you're gonna keep all your cash in the rv?

[Susan Powder]

Yes.

[Sarah Colonna]

Well, let's. Yeah.

[Susan Powder]

Cause I don't. Yeah, no, no, it's good. And there's not. Listen, we're fine. Nobody's gonna rob me. This is not gonna happen. We're fine.

[Producer/Assistant]

Do you bring the axe to the rv?

[Susan Powder]

I have my axe, and it will be in there. But I'm gonna have a. My dog that died was a dog. Dog, which was a dog.

[Sarah Colonna]

So you're gonna have a good dog.

[Susan Powder]

Oh, I'm gonna have a killer. It's gonna be trained to kill. Uncommand.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, okay.

[Susan Powder]

No, no. I mean, I train dogs really well. No, I train dogs really well. My dog saved my life in an RV with a guy who was robbing Sam's Town Casino. And we. He. He had bags of cash, and MJ was right next to me, and she was a big son of a bitch. And the guy came right at me and mj. I said, stay, and the guy looked at MJ and ran. I'm telling you.

[Sarah Colonna]

Have a good garden.

[Susan Powder]

No, I'm gonna have a dog.

[Sarah Colonna]

Hopefully your dog likes the color red.

[Susan Powder]

Yeah. Yeah, that'd be an issue. Imagine. Yeah. Could you imagine like, lightning if that freaked him out?

[Sarah Colonna]

That's the thing.

[Susan Powder]

It'll be over.

[Jeff Lewis]

Can you just look into the insurance? And also just look around at what? The RV rental, Like the. You know, to rent the spaces, what those cost.

[Susan Powder]

Yeah, I do know what that cost. Remember, I did live. I lived in a KOA okay.

[Jeff Lewis]

But, you know, it's 20, 25, and so it might be a little different. The prices.

[Susan Powder]

I need you, Jeff. You're so good. Financially, I don't think, but I'm going to.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay.

[Susan Powder]

I'm going Jack.

[Jeff Lewis]

And then you're not gonna crap it up with a bunch of stuff inside, are you?

[Susan Powder]

No, I'm not a hoarder. Jazz.

[Producer/Assistant]

Okay.

[Susan Powder]

No, no, I'm clean.

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, you don't want any knickknacks.

[Jeff Lewis]

But I'm worried about all your crafting and stuff. Where Are you gonna do that?

[Susan Powder]

No, that's gonna be done and then I'm gonna sell it. I'm gonna do a whole thing. But no, no. I am a simple gal with simple dreams. I'm clean and organized. I do not like messy at all.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay, so where do we want to stay? Palm Springs. Where are you gonna go?

[Susan Powder]

What I'm gonna do is I'm gonna get it in December. I've already put it out there. I don't care if I have to rob the thing. I'm gonna get it in December. And then the first thing I'm gonna do, there's a trailer park, a really nice one that wouldn't let me in last time. Cause my rig was too old at the south end of the strip. And I'm gonna stay in Vegas for a couple of season three months. Vegas. I love Vegas.

[Jeff Lewis]

Why do they discriminate against old RVs?

[Susan Powder]

Well, because now it's become a. When I was touring in an rv, it wasn't like, you know, van life TikTok. It's become a thing. And it gets, you know, it's parking lot, they have security now. You used to be able to pull into a Walmart and live there for three bloody weeks. Nobody bo bothered you. It's become a thing and it's annoying people and whatever. And they do discriminate because people live there.

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh my God. You know where I see a lot.

[Susan Powder]

Of them broken down rigs.

[Jeff Lewis]

You can park on Forest Lawn. There's so many RVs there. Barham to Forest Lawn. Have you seen that?

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

There's so many RVs to park there. I don't think, I think it's illegal, but everybody's doing it.

[Susan Powder]

Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

And then when you die, you're already there.

[Susan Powder]

Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

Cemetery.

[Susan Powder]

I know exactly they are.

[Sarah Colonna]

Roll right out.

[Susan Powder]

But I'm not an. I. I'm not a big RV. Like the, some of the people that live in RVs, they're, you know, I'm not, I don't, I don't want RV friends.

[Producer/Assistant]

Not your culture.

[Susan Powder]

Well, I just don't want RV friends. Why? Because I don't.

[Jeff Lewis]

Do they fuck each other?

[Susan Powder]

As in sexually?

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah, RV friends. Well, like in the trailer parks.

[Susan Powder]

No, you mean like friends with benefits.

[Sarah Colonna]

It's a, It's a swinger community kind of.

[Susan Powder]

Well, you know what it is? It's a big drinker. It's. It's a. It's five o' clock some. There's always a flag out.

[Jeff Lewis]

Maybe I should get an rv.

[Susan Powder]

Oh no, Jeff.

[Jeff Lewis]

You too, Sarah.

[Susan Powder]

Come on, let's have a look.

[Sarah Colonna]

All of a sudden, we're interested. I'm gonna get a red one.

[Susan Powder]

South side of the str. No, no, it's a. With the flag out, it's five o'. Clock. It's a culture that people meet and they know season. You know, you follow the sun, Jeff. We'll follow the sun. Let's go. I'm following the sun and I'm gonna go meet. Could you imagine, like a sprinter man version and online I can just say, I'm coming into wherever. I'm coming into Indiana. Meet me down at the corner. Wherever.

[Producer/Assistant]

We would be like Angie K. Who forgets the hot dog buns pulling up at the camping site. I don't know if it would work.

[Jeff Lewis]

But I've seen some of those really big RVs and then they have the cars attached to of them. 100%, that's what I want. But then I also need a driver.

[Susan Powder]

No, that. That's what you're talking about.

[Sarah Colonna]

No, just get the big RV that you can drive.

[Jeff Lewis]

I'm not driving that thing.

[Susan Powder]

Those are the expenses that are your rel. That's real. I'm not living that drive.

[Jeff Lewis]

Do I need a special license to drive my rv?

[Susan Powder]

If you get a huge one, you probably do.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah.

[Susan Powder]

Like a. I just said on the way down here that I was going to become a trucker and I was going to get my CLD license. I said the wrong thing. I don't know what license it is. I was so inspired. I was like, I'm going to do. I did on Instagram. I'm going to do Jeff Lewis. And I said, I'm so into this truck culture. I'm going to become a trucker. I meant it when I said it.

[Jeff Lewis]

What about a really nice sprinter van? Because then she could park it anywhere.

[Susan Powder]

Hate them.

[Jeff Lewis]

She could park it on Beverly.

[Susan Powder]

Hate them. Hate them. They're too modern. They're. I don't want to.

[Jeff Lewis]

I know, but you park them anywhere.

[Sarah Colonna]

They don't have, like, beds and couches in them.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yes, they do. Oh, yes, they do.

[Susan Powder]

There's no chance. I'm not riding in that sprinter van. No, they're. They're fancy shoes.

[Jeff Lewis]

All right. I'm kind of getting on board here.

[Susan Powder]

Yeah. No, no, Jeff, you're gonna love.

[Sarah Colonna]

Just because she said you can drink.

[Susan Powder]

I'll get you a little flag, I think.

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh, my God.

[Susan Powder]

Look at that.

[Jeff Lewis]

That's a Volkswagen van.

[Susan Powder]

Those are great, but you can't. You know, you can't even get parts for that Anymore. You can't do it. You talk about expensive Jeff Lewis. It's so cute. I would. I would live in that. I'm not exact. My children know. My son once said to me, mom, why do you like old, dusty things? Like, it's all I like. Like, why do you like old, dusty things?

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh, Marianne in Florida, line three. Hi, Marianne.

[Caller/Listener]

Am I on?

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah, yeah. You do a lot of camping.

[Caller/Listener]

Yes. But first I have to say, just to make my whole day, Shout out, Shane.

[Producer/Assistant]

Shout out, Marianne.

[Sarah Colonna]

Hey.

[Caller/Listener]

Okay, now I can move on. Yes, my husband and I do a lot of camping. We moved two years ago from Indiana to Florida, and we didn't have a house yet, and so we lived in our camper for three months. I loved it. I would have stayed there.

[Susan Powder]

Marianne, would you just repeat that? You loved it, didn't you?

[Caller/Listener]

You. I loved it. Absolutely loved it. I wanted to stay there, but my husband wanted to get a house, and so we bought.

[Jeff Lewis]

Marianne, did you have RV friends?

[Caller/Listener]

One of the ones we met in the park.

[Sarah Colonna]

But they.

[Caller/Listener]

I will tell you, they are nicest people because we. I didn't.

[Susan Powder]

I did not.

[Caller/Listener]

Oh, you know, I might have. But anyway.

[Susan Powder]

No, I did not.

[Caller/Listener]

They are the nicest people. Like, everywhere we go camping. We went all way the. We went all through Ohio and all through Indiana and stuff. Camping. We met people that were super, super nice.

[Susan Powder]

Yes.

[Caller/Listener]

And everybody watched everybody's kids. It's a really nice little community, if you will.

[Susan Powder]

Yeah, it's a vibe.

[Jeff Lewis]

What did it cost? So, for gas, what did it cost for the space rentals? Roughly?

[Caller/Listener]

We. It kind of depends on you go, but roughly every night would probably be around $40.

[Susan Powder]

It's like a campsite, Marianne. It's like a campsite, right? That's what campsites are. And they're safe. No, it really isn't. No. And then you do a thing. And you know what else you could do, Marianne? You know this. And you can. You can work camp, too. You go in, they give you a free space, and you work the gift shop for a month and you meet. I agree with Marianne. I met the nicest people ever. It's. It's. It's an energy. People are happy. They're excited.

[Producer/Assistant]

They're free.

[Susan Powder]

Yes, they're free. Like I am, Marianne, in December.

[Jeff Lewis]

It's not that free, right? It's not free.

[Susan Powder]

Not free. Financial.

[Jeff Lewis]

1200Amonth for the rental. And that sounds like a calculator open. That's like the cheaper version, right? I mean, if you go to.

[Susan Powder]

To.

[Jeff Lewis]

She's in Malibu or something like that. Or Palm Desert. She's going to spend more than 40, right, Marianne?

[Caller/Listener]

Well, she might. She might because it's a nicer area. But as far as the campers themselves go, they are so fancy. Now, Jeff, you wouldn't. We. Ours has a shower and a toilet and a full working kitchen. I mean, I could have easily stayed there. It's like a little apartment on wheels.

[Susan Powder]

And that's what everybody asks. The first thing they ask is, where do you poo? Because you don't poo in your rv. I mean, you do if you need to, but you don't. I don't even need a bathroom. I'll just go to the bathroom somewhere else. I'm fine.

[Sarah Colonna]

Where do you. Where you go?

[Susan Powder]

You know, like Marianne just said, the RV places, they have showers.

[Jeff Lewis]

They have showers and everything.

[Sarah Colonna]

You have toilet in yours?

[Susan Powder]

Yeah, but you want to go.

[Jeff Lewis]

You don't want to empty it and all of that. Right?

[Susan Powder]

And I'll do a compost poo toilet.

[Jeff Lewis]

Marianne, do they have electrical and water hookups at these rentals?

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

Do they have showers? Showers and all of that?

[Caller/Listener]

We had. Yes. We had a camper. I mean, a camper. We had a shower in our camper, and we have a toilet in there as well. But the campgrounds have showers and toilets. Is water hookup, electric hookup. We have air conditioning. It's super, super nice. It's like driving around a little apartment. It really.

[Jeff Lewis]

Gas must have been really expensive.

[Susan Powder]

That's what it is. She just said it. Marianne just said it. It's like a turtle. Marianne. I literally feel like I have my house on my back, and I couldn't be more excited. It's driving around in a little apartment.

[Jeff Lewis]

Thank you so much, Marianne.

[Producer/Assistant]

Palm Springs.

[Susan Powder]

Thank you. Mar.

[Producer/Assistant]

From Palm Springs. Two hours from LA5 to Vegas. I mean, it's really. The.

[Jeff Lewis]

How much?

[Producer/Assistant]

I'm trying to get a quote, because this show is.

[Jeff Lewis]

We're looking at $40 a night. $40 a night, which is $1200 a month, plus your $600 a month car payment. Now we're at 1800. We're not including insurance, we're not including gas, and we're not including registration.

[Sarah Colonna]

Repairs.

[Jeff Lewis]

So registration. Probably nothing but gas. I mean, with gas, you're looking at 2,500amonth minimum. Now we're not even talking.

[Susan Powder]

I'm not driving them. No, it'll. It won't. It's a lot. Well, you know what? Living.

[Jeff Lewis]

Got insurance. It's like probably 2750amonth. @ least.

[Susan Powder]

No, but any dec. You know, any house anymore.

[Jeff Lewis]

No, because you gave up your apartment. 1100amonth. Yeah, but how much is it if.

[Susan Powder]

I see another walker? Jeff Lewis. And I'm not talking about a jogger.

[Producer/Assistant]

It's really expensive.

[Jeff Lewis]

What?

[Producer/Assistant]

I just plugged in.

[Susan Powder]

Don't kill the dream, Shane. Don't kill the dream.

[Jeff Lewis]

Don't kill it, Shane.

[Producer/Assistant]

One week.

[Sarah Colonna]

Jeff Lewis is where dreams go to die, okay?

[Susan Powder]

Jeff is slaughtering my dreams.

[Producer/Assistant]

This is like $1,400 for a week.

[Susan Powder]

No, but you don't go. I'm not doing that. You know, I'm talking about pulling to the side of the road and making myself some food with my dog. That's it. Very simple. Look, Sarah's looking very confused.

[Jeff Lewis]

All right, so this is. Look, it sounds like we can't change your mind.

[Susan Powder]

No, we're gonna do it.

[Jeff Lewis]

So this is what I'm gonna. Please. I'm gonna beg you.

[Susan Powder]

Yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

Please don't paint the inside cherry red. Let's try to find a good deal where you have some equity in the rv. If this goes south, we can sell the rv, you can go back into an apartment. I don't want you to be upside down in this rv, stuck in it.

[Susan Powder]

Nobody respects you or likes you more. I swear to God. And I never expected to say that, Jeff Lewis. It's the. There is no chance in hell it's not going to be cherry red. It'll be cherry red 10 minutes after I own it.

[Sarah Colonna]

I'm getting a little red accent rug.

[Susan Powder]

No, no, no, no, no. I don't accent.

[Jeff Lewis]

How about we do this?

[Susan Powder]

An accent rug?

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah.

[Susan Powder]

Just. How about a bathroom mat? We'll do a bathroom rug.

[Jeff Lewis]

What if we compromise and paint it cherry red when it's paid off? Yeah, because then it won't matter.

[Susan Powder]

I don't know. It's going to be cherry red. 10 seconds, and I'm really excited. And it's good. And it's going to be very practical, and I'm a hard worker, and everything's going to be great. But listen, I'm 67 years old, and I know how I want to live. And I've done every woman listening. I've done the houses, I'. Kids, I've done the apartments, I've done the furniture. I've done. I'm done. I'm done. I'm over it. Like, I don't. I don't want clothing and I don't want housing.

[Jeff Lewis]

All right?

[Susan Powder]

So I want to be homeless and naked.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay. I am very, very happy and proud of you for the documentary. I'm so happy to hear because honestly, today I was going to walk in and be pissed if you didn't have distribution yet.

[Sarah Colonna]

Thank you.

[Jeff Lewis]

Because here's the, here's, here's what I was thinking. If Gown and Out in Beverly Hills Season 4 has distribution and a platform, you sure as hell can get distribution in a platform. So I'm very, very excited for you.

[Susan Powder]

Terrific. Zebra Newman has worked so hard.

[Sarah Colonna]

Anytime you post about your documentary, be sure to tag Gown and Out in Beverly Hills.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

And Prime Video.

[Jeff Lewis]

It's that.

[Susan Powder]

Thank you. It means the world.

[Jeff Lewis]

There are two co hosts on the show that have a a show that shouldn't be on the air, but it is.

[Producer/Assistant]

So we're glad something this incredible can actually be seen.

[Susan Powder]

Well, I'm grateful that you watched it. I'm grateful that it held your attention the way it did. And I really appreciate the acknowledgement. Thank you. I cannot wait for every human being to see this.

[Jeff Lewis]

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[Susan Powder]

I'm. I've given up clothing. And that's really. And I did a thing I. And a lot of people said I would love to be able to do that. So it's black sweats. I wear blue jeans to your show just because.

[Sarah Colonna]

But you'll never see because you know he won't let. Let you back in.

[Susan Powder]

No, he won't let me back in sweat. So I just black sweats for the rest of my life.

[Jeff Lewis]

So you're gonna do. Okay. So we can do cute workout clothes. Are we just doing black sweats?

[Susan Powder]

No, we're just doing black sweats. Yeah, we're just in sweats. You know, everybody says, get out of your sweats cause you're lazy. You're this and you're that and you should dress. I'm done with dress. I'm done with clothing.

[Jeff Lewis]

I think there is. There are appropriate times where you do have. I mean, I know you have a nice dress. I saw it in the documentary.

[Susan Powder]

I wore it here. I have a very nice dress.

[Jeff Lewis]

So you have something.

[Susan Powder]

People magazine shoot.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yes.

[Susan Powder]

And tomorrow night I'm doing something. And my sweats are very nice. Skims leggings, which are very n. Whatever. Six inch heels. Very. Yes, very nice. And a wrap that I made to die for. So I call it exercise chic. So it's sweats, but it's, you know, it's got some heels.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay, so what I did is I heard you say that and I thought, okay, well, then Susan needs. If you're committed to workout clothes and sweats, fine, but they need to be cute. So I had Annie on the way home. Thank you, Annie. She stopped by Macy's.

[Susan Powder]

I'm dying.

[Jeff Lewis]

We got you a $500 gift card to go to Macy' check. There is a Macy's in Vegas.

[Susan Powder]

Jeff Lewis.

[Jeff Lewis]

And you can pick up some cute workout clothes.

[Susan Powder]

Oh, Jeff Lewis. That is the look, everyone. It's a beautiful little red. Cherry red envelope.

[Jeff Lewis]

It's a sign.

[Susan Powder]

This is a sign. I'm going to. And Jeff Lewis. Don't you think when you come to.

[Sarah Colonna]

Dinner, this will close too?

[Susan Powder]

Thank you, Jeff Lewis. That is the sweetest. That is so sweet. I'm. I will totally go get cute. I'll Send a pic. Totally.

[Sarah Colonna]

Tag.

[Jeff Lewis]

I just paid for. It was my idea. I paid for it. But I really appreciate Annie taking her time after work last night. This is how much we love you. She goes after work last night to the Beverly center and picked that up for you.

[Susan Powder]

Thank you, Annie.

[Sarah Colonna]

And that's no easy feat, going to the Beverly Center. Not a nice mall at night with people parking and. What now? That's a lot.

[Susan Powder]

Lot. Thank you. That is the loveliest.

[Sarah Colonna]

You're welcome.

[Susan Powder]

Well, I. It was enormously brave of you, Annie. Thank God you survived.

[Sarah Colonna]

Do they still have a bar in the Beverly Center? Remember they used to have like a bar in the middle?

[Jeff Lewis]

I don't think they have it anymore.

[Susan Powder]

It used to be. I remember when I lived way back in the day, that was the place. All the rage.

[Jeff Lewis]

I know. Yep. It used to be. I remember.

[Susan Powder]

Do you know, my son, there was a rug shop. Like, you can't say oriental. Whatever. It's a. Whatever the hell it's called now. Whatever.

[Jeff Lewis]

So there's an oriental rug.

[Susan Powder]

There's an oriental store across. But my son.

[Jeff Lewis]

Come on, Jameson.

[Susan Powder]

Jameson, come on, Oriental rug. Go Jameson.

[Sarah Colonna]

Jameson's about to leave.

[Susan Powder]

My son was 10 years old. It was the height of Stop the insanity. And we were going past it and my son said, mom, you should do a promotion with them. We could get free rugs and then we could go to Nike. I said, that's called a pimp, Kyle. I was like, that's Mom. We could get a free rug, like.

[Jeff Lewis]

But more importantly, do they have a Wetzel's pretzel?

[Sarah Colonna]

And I got some last night.

[Susan Powder]

Are you good?

[Jeff Lewis]

So good.

[Susan Powder]

And I went to Sephora and Victoria's Secret.

[Sarah Colonna]

It was actually a great trip.

[Jeff Lewis]

Did you get the little butter bites? Yeah, those are my favorite.

[Sarah Colonna]

But he tricked me.

[Susan Powder]

I was like, can I have this small, like bites?

[Sarah Colonna]

And he gave me a huge bag of them. I'm like, okay.

[Jeff Lewis]

Did you eat them all?

[Sarah Colonna]

No, I threw them away.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay, that's good. Good girl. Okay.

[Sarah Colonna]

The only thing that would have made your day better is if they still had the soup plantation across the street.

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh, I remember. You remember that?

[Susan Powder]

I do remember when it first that Beverly connection. Y. Yes.

[Sarah Colonna]

That's probably why you had to teach a workout class to people. Cuz they went to the soup plant.

[Jeff Lewis]

Now.

[Susan Powder]

Is it. Is it just a health down there? Is it just outlet now?

[Jeff Lewis]

I miss soup plantation.

[Susan Powder]

Why? What you like so much soup?

[Jeff Lewis]

Well, I. I had no money then, so you could just like not eat all day and then just go. Go back 16 times. And then I would go to movies upstairs.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, I loved it.

[Susan Powder]

A nice, lonely afternoon. Yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

No, I mean, some. I would. Don't you miss being poor?

[Susan Powder]

Poor and lonely.

[Producer/Assistant]

I was not so happy.

[Jeff Lewis]

I actually was kind of happy and poor.

[Susan Powder]

No, you're happy now. You're fine. I mean, I don't even know you, but poor is not good.

[Sarah Colonna]

The situation was solid.

[Susan Powder]

It was solid. Yeah, it was solid. You're right. I do remember that.

[Jeff Lewis]

Never had trouble finding parking either. No.

[Sarah Colonna]

And sometimes you would watch people that I don't think they understood, you could go back, so they would just, like, fill up their whole tray and then they would just walk to, like, the biggest lunch.

[Jeff Lewis]

Do you remember the cornbread?

[Sarah Colonna]

Oh, yeah, the cornbread was real good.

[Jeff Lewis]

That was my absolute favorite, was the cornbread.

[Susan Powder]

When did the Beverly center go down? What happened?

[Jeff Lewis]

I like the Beverly center people. I don't know.

[Producer/Assistant]

It's creepy.

[Jeff Lewis]

You've got the Grove now and you've got Century City Mall. But I like. I did a lot of Christmas shopping there. It was easy. They had nice stores because there's no one there.

[Producer/Assistant]

It's so easy. There's no lines. That is a good trick, too, for the Apple Store. If you have to go to the Apple Store, there's never anyone there.

[Sarah Colonna]

Same of that one, the Fashion Square or whatever.

[Susan Powder]

Yeah, but I don't think people who don't live in LA or who have never experienced love. It's very difficult. This is a difficult city. Between traffic, parking, people, craziness. It's. It's a difficult city.

[Jeff Lewis]

It is.

[Susan Powder]

It's a hard city to get around.

[Jeff Lewis]

Steve in Canada, line five. This is interesting. Hey, Steve.

[Caller/Listener]

Hi, Jeff. How you doing?

[Jeff Lewis]

Good.

[Caller/Listener]

I had a thought, and I don't know, I'd like. You know, I know Susan said that she's, you know, she's looking to move in the direction of not having to work, and she wants to ride around in her RV and stuff.

[Jeff Lewis]

She's going to follow the signs.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah, well, but doesn't. Doesn't the most logical step include her podcasting while she's following the sun in her RV?

[Susan Powder]

Steve, Sarah just picked up on that 100%. Yep. Sarah just said, are you going to be doing that?

[Sarah Colonna]

Yep.

[Susan Powder]

She just picked up on that instant. It's a great.

[Jeff Lewis]

You need Wi Fi in that camper.

[Susan Powder]

100%. 100%.

[Sarah Colonna]

That's another expense.

[Susan Powder]

Jesus Christ. Thanks, Steve. Now we're talking about WI Fi and Star.

[Jeff Lewis]

No, but you're right, Steve.

[Susan Powder]

He's right. Steve is right. Steve is right.

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh, my God. We can write the whole thing off.

[Susan Powder]

Yes, Steve, you just opened the financial door. My dream is back. My dream is back.

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh, my God, Steve.

[Susan Powder]

We can ride it back.

[Jeff Lewis]

Thank you. It's a great idea.

[Susan Powder]

Thank you, Steve.

[Sarah Colonna]

I mean, I did say it at the break, but. Thanks, Steve.

[Caller/Listener]

All right, Sarah, calm down.

[Jeff Lewis]

You're right. No one listens to you.

[Sarah Colonna]

Steve, I just. You're trying to take my producer role, aren't you?

[Susan Powder]

That is so.

[Caller/Listener]

Well, yeah, I'll take it.

[Susan Powder]

Sure, sure. No, Steve, you're 100% right. That's exactly what the hell is going on.

[Jeff Lewis]

Thank you, Steve.

[Susan Powder]

Thank you, Steve.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay, so the other thing I wanted to just throw out there, and I don't know if you're going to be open to it. You obviously are so fit, so healthy. You have a great attitude. I think you should teach classes again and just hear me out. I noticed that a lot of these celebrities that have made it and made millions of dollars, like Brooke Burke, Richard Simmons, like all of these Joinda Medley, all these people, it's like celebrity workouts.

[Caller/Listener]

And.

[Jeff Lewis]

And you don't have to commit to every week, but they were doing it, like once a month.

[Producer/Assistant]

I've got something bigger, A masterclass.

[Susan Powder]

I've got something bigger for you, because what people don't know, you do because you saw the movie and you read the book. Sarah, thank you. I was not. Listen, I eat really well, and I walk eight miles, 50,000 steps. I don't count steps, but I deliver and walk up and down, up and down, up and down. I am well because I built an infrastructure. But there's something that I'm going to be doing. I lost my practice, and my practice means everything to me. I don't screw around when I get on the mat, and I don't do calm nothing. It is intense, crazy. I'm getting back on the mat and I'm. People don't expect me to have lost my flexibility compared to what I used to do. I haven't been. You think I came back from harbor island after delivering all day and did down dog on that filthy carpet? I did not. I. Like, I didn't. So I lost my practice, and I'm getting back on the mat, and I'm just going to do it publicly. So we're going to be somewhere.

[Jeff Lewis]

But wait a minute. We charge.

[Sarah Colonna]

Charging.

[Susan Powder]

We're gonna. I don't. I haven't thought about that.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay, I have. We're charging.

[Susan Powder]

Thank you, Jeff.

[Sarah Colonna]

Do it like a YouTube subscription.

[Susan Powder]

Yeah. You know, but but the point is, people, it's real no matter where you're starting. I, I mean, you don't know. I've lost a lot of flexibility. I've lost a lot of strength. I'm 67. I'm picking the weights up. I am getting back on the mat and it's gonna be real. Like, I'm struggling. Like everybody struggles. Everybody has a different level of intensity. But either way, I could still make you sweat blood just doing a yoga class because I do a good one, so I could still do that in a hotel.

[Jeff Lewis]

So then if you had some sort of collaboration with a gym here in, say, West Hollywood and you could teach a class once a month, are you open to doing that? And in addition to everything else you're doing?

[Susan Powder]

I'm open to everything because I feel.

[Jeff Lewis]

Like the gays and girls would spend money.

[Susan Powder]

No, I did gay. I did gay cruises, taught yoga. The gays are the best. I did gay. I am gay. Gay cruise. I did yoga. My son got the best vacation ever. All I do is teach yoga to a bunch of gay people on a cruise.

[Jeff Lewis]

Those gays, they have money, they're the best.

[Producer/Assistant]

And they're so flexible.

[Jeff Lewis]

Disposable income, the best.

[Susan Powder]

And get. I mean, gay men have a thing with. Stop the insanity. They are the best.

[Sarah Colonna]

But you could just do like a pop up anywhere you wanted.

[Susan Powder]

Yeah, pop up is all the raging. You're very current, Sarah.

[Sarah Colonna]

Thank you.

[Susan Powder]

You are very on top of that. Honestly.

[Jeff Lewis]

She took that idea from Steve.

[Susan Powder]

Steve.

[Jeff Lewis]

She tries to make them her own.

[Sarah Colonna]

Steve in Canada. Canadian.

[Susan Powder]

No, no, you're very current. Yeah. And it just. Things are so possible now. But my point is people don't expect. I don't come in like a fitness expert. I come in like a 67 year old woman who needs to increase my strength, who needs to increase my. Whatever. We'll all do it together.

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh my God. You must follow Stephen Cannon on Instagram. And you just repeat. You repeat the shit he posts. It's like Joey Zauczig.

[Sarah Colonna]

Yeah, he does this really great chicken Caesar wrap review. Steve in Canada. And I was gonna maybe do one of those.

[Jeff Lewis]

Line three. Mariana and Cindy. Diego. This is good advice for you, Susan.

[Susan Powder]

Okay.

[Caller/Listener]

So good to talk to you today.

[Susan Powder]

Oh, hi, Mariana. What a beautiful name.

[Caller/Listener]

Thank you. I just wanted to let you know, please, please, please do triple a RV if you end up doing the rv. Because we got a travel trailer and thankfully I had upgraded our AAA membership to the RV membership. We had a flat and they had to come out with A special truck to fix our flat. And we would have been super screwed if we didn't have that.

[Susan Powder]

You're. You know what? I would not. Triple A was one of the things that I make sure I have because it just freaks me out to not have it. And you are 100% right. That's another big no, it's not.

[Jeff Lewis]

Did you know that we look at AAA RV membership, rv? I didn't know they had an RV membership.

[Susan Powder]

Yes, they do.

[Jeff Lewis]

They come and I thought it was the regular membership.

[Susan Powder]

They have to change a different wheel when it's. When it's an rv.

[Jeff Lewis]

We got to get the rv. I don't have an rv. But we got to we to upgrade.

[Susan Powder]

Yeah, but you. You're never going to use it. They're never going to come in our. You don't have an rv. Could you imagine you called like, what the hell's the matter with you? You don't have an rv.

[Sarah Colonna]

He'll just.

[Jeff Lewis]

We got to get Susan the RV membership.

[Producer/Assistant]

It's only 130 to 360 a year.

[Sarah Colonna]

Okay, perfect.

[Susan Powder]

And you're right, Mar.

[Sarah Colonna]

Maybe it depends on how big. So if you have the 19 footer, it's 130. If you.

[Jeff Lewis]

Is that what Steve told you?

[Sarah Colonna]

Steve told me. He said don't get one over 10 years old.

[Jeff Lewis]

No.

[Susan Powder]

100%.

[Jeff Lewis]

Mariana, that is a really, really great suggestion.

[Susan Powder]

Yep. No. And you should get it anyway. Jeff, just to feel special.

[Jeff Lewis]

Lisa at California line six. Hi, Lisa.

[Caller/Listener]

Oh, hey, Susan. It's so great to hear you on with Sarah. I wish for this, this dream duo and it's perfect. So are you killing Jeff? So are you. You're almost going to need a producer after this. Sarah, she's going to need a producer. Because I'm thinking she's going to need a chat line for people to call in hot line to talk about their local places where the RV can park.

[Susan Powder]

Yes.

[Caller/Listener]

Like for instance, in Ventura. There's one right on the beach and I'm talking the water is crashing right.

[Jeff Lewis]

Next to the rv.

[Sarah Colonna]

That would be pretty.

[Susan Powder]

And listen, Lisa, exactly my point. Now with the Internet, you can do. And people can give suggestions and they can let you know. And I had someone the other day at a film festival literally say to me, I have property. Pull up and just stay. It doesn't even matter.

[Producer/Assistant]

You can do that?

[Susan Powder]

Kind of.

[Jeff Lewis]

You'll never hear me say that.

[Susan Powder]

No, never.

[Jeff Lewis]

Parks in my driveway.

[Susan Powder]

I'll just be out front with my wet women sign. Lisa. And thank you so much. I adore Sarah. Knows I love her and I love her husband. That's it.

[Sarah Colonna]

That what that is.

[Producer/Assistant]

She loves their Sherman Oaks driveway.

[Susan Powder]

And I'm hoping to come and do the podcast again in my rv.

[Sarah Colonna]

That's right.

[Susan Powder]

But thank you. You are right.

[Sarah Colonna]

That Ventura one is nice. I've seen it.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah, we're looking it up right now to see how much it is.

[Producer/Assistant]

Beach. Or is it wayward Ventura?

[Sarah Colonna]

I think it's Ventura Beach.

[Jeff Lewis]

Beach.

[Sarah Colonna]

That's right.

[Jeff Lewis]

We want her on the beach.

[Susan Powder]

There's so many beautiful places and it's the energy. I mean, here's. Look.

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh my God.

[Sarah Colonna]

Ventura Shores. She could be on Ventura Shores.

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh my God. Yes.

[Susan Powder]

Is that a thing?

[Jeff Lewis]

Season two, we have a. We have a co host, Patrick Simpson, who is on the soap opera Ventura Shores. That's where they film. Yeah, Ventura.

[Sarah Colonna]

If you live on the beach there, then you. Season two, I am in.

[Jeff Lewis]

But the other thing too is poor.

[Susan Powder]

What? Yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

So maybe you splurge once in a while and you do like a week in Ventura.

[Susan Powder]

Show like a spa kind of vibe. Like. Yes.

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh, I love this.

[Susan Powder]

Yes. And then it film it.

[Jeff Lewis]

I'm into RV life.

[Susan Powder]

Steve said we're all doing it.

[Sarah Colonna]

We're all doing it.

[Producer/Assistant]

You have to send a request to get pricing.

[Susan Powder]

There are a lot of people who. A lot of people who may not be able to do that. They still have children. They literally. You work and you do and you raise them and it's done. And I'm free. Everyone, I'm free. I'm. I'm not gonna. I'm not retiring. I'm beginning. I'm just.

[Jeff Lewis]

You're into RV life too?

[Producer/Assistant]

Yep. Bro and I are gonna get a 19 foot arm. A brand new one though. You know, I like the luxury.

[Jeff Lewis]

What about 2 years old with a warranty?

[Producer/Assistant]

Yeah.

[Sarah Colonna]

Okay, fine.

[Susan Powder]

And you could get that easily now. Cuz I'm telling you, people are hurting because everyone bought during the pandemic. Everyone bought them.

[Producer/Assistant]

They also make a lot of really.

[Susan Powder]

Really cute small homes. I look at small home tours all the time. I've thought. Thought about it. And container tiny home. You've heard of a tiny home?

[Jeff Lewis]

Yes, yes, of course.

[Susan Powder]

I actually thought about it. I thought about it, but I don't know. I want to live in la and.

[Sarah Colonna]

I don't know where I would put.

[Susan Powder]

It in la, but who can afford anything, you know, it's just everything's so.

[Jeff Lewis]

Expensive, you know, I don't want to on RV life because I'm actually kind of excited about this. However, what happens to Jose, your maintenance man.

[Susan Powder]

I must tell you this because it's the absolute truth. We were talking about Joseph the last time I was here, as we were speaking about him. You won't believe what happened. I go. And it was happening like that. Two days. I go back home. It's like five days. Jose's not there. He's always there. And nobody will understand this more than you. That property was so loved and protected. Did he pick up after everything? It was never a mess, but he was always there. They fired him.

[Producer/Assistant]

He's gone.

[Susan Powder]

No, no, no, no. It's worse. It's worse. He went in for a review. Nobody. Nobody works harder than Jose. Nobody protects that property. And you know what? I'm telling you this, Jeff Lewis. I don't feel as safe. Isn't that the. And I'm not an unsafe. Swear.

[Producer/Assistant]

Why do they do that?

[Susan Powder]

I thought you were. You know why he went in? No, he. It's worse. They didn't pay him. He deserved. And now I don't like the office anymore. I'm like, how could you not pay Jose? And then the guy that took over is. The guy that took over. Over is sloppy and messy and, like, has a beat, like, no. And he's like, hey, how's it going? I'm just. Every time I see something, I'm like. I literally say out loud, jose would not allow that. Where.

[Jeff Lewis]

Where did Jose go?

[Susan Powder]

He went to the next complex where they would pay him good.

[Jeff Lewis]

Hopefully they pay him more money.

[Susan Powder]

And I have. Look, I have a cell phone number. He gave me a cell phone number.

[Sarah Colonna]

Jeff, are you looking for a maintenance guy?

[Jeff Lewis]

I love Jose.

[Susan Powder]

He's the best.

[Jeff Lewis]

I have a question.

[Producer/Assistant]

Yes?

[Susan Powder]

Is Jose, by chance, for Jose is Mexican American. Yes, he's a Mexican American and very Filipino. Clean, but the same kind of energy could fix anything.

[Jeff Lewis]

He has Filipino energy.

[Sarah Colonna]

What about the name?

[Jeff Lewis]

I love that. It's perfect.

[Sarah Colonna]

What about the name Jose made you think he was Filipino?

[Susan Powder]

There's a lot of Spanish influence in the Philippines.

[Sarah Colonna]

Okay, okay, okay.

[Jeff Lewis]

In Jeff's defense, but before you make fun of me, he has Filipino energy, okay?

[Producer/Assistant]

Yeah, Big Filipino energy.

[Susan Powder]

But I do not feel as safe without Jose. And I really, literally, the property is not being managed properly because Jose has gone and they did not pay him what he deserves.

[Jeff Lewis]

So what is the name of your complex?

[Susan Powder]

Las Vegas Manor Apartments.

[Jeff Lewis]

It's all Vegas Manor Apartments.

[Sarah Colonna]

They're a sponsor.

[Susan Powder]

We're done with you, and then we love you.

[Jeff Lewis]

Kerry and Washington, line three.

[Caller/Listener]

Hello?

[Jeff Lewis]

Hey, Kerry.

[Susan Powder]

Hey, what's up? Oh.

[Caller/Listener]

Shout Out Shane.

[Producer/Assistant]

Shout out.

[Jeff Lewis]

Carrie.

[Producer/Assistant]

Shout out.

[Susan Powder]

509 Washington.

[Producer/Assistant]

My girl.

[Sarah Colonna]

Somebody dipped into the Bloody Mary mix.

[Caller/Listener]

I got a. I got a couple things. I bought Susan's book. Reading it. Love it.

[Susan Powder]

Thank you.

[Caller/Listener]

So I want to promote that.

[Susan Powder]

Thank you.

[Caller/Listener]

Carrie and I live in Spokane and I'm thinking about going to Sarah's New Year's Eve Steve show in Spokane, Washington.

[Sarah Colonna]

Do it break. Get tickets that will. Those will sell out. So get tickets and come. It's going to be so much fun.

[Jeff Lewis]

You serving food?

[Susan Powder]

Nope.

[Sarah Colonna]

I think they got popcorn.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay. I do want to promote. Thank you so much for call.

[Susan Powder]

Thank you.

[Jeff Lewis]

Car your book and then M died. Stop the Insanity a memoir that is available on Amazon.com it is. And then I think you should come back back and promote the movie right before or the day of or the day before it's released.

[Susan Powder]

Would love. Thank you.

[Jeff Lewis]

Because chumps are gonna forget, you know, we need to remind them in November.

[Susan Powder]

Thanks.

[Jeff Lewis]

So chumps buy her book and then M died. Stop the insanity. Amazon.com and the November when you come back, we'll promote the documentary.

[Sarah Colonna]

That's when she's gonna drop us all up at the theater and not go in with us. Is that right?

[Susan Powder]

Yes, that's right.

[Jeff Lewis]

In her RV or 19.

[Susan Powder]

I'm gonna escort you to the theater and I may pull up in the RV just to come.

[Jeff Lewis]

Thanks for listening. If you want more of this, listen to Jeff Lewis Live every weekday on SiriusXM as well as the Jeff Lewis Channel exclusively on the SiriusXM app.

[Susan Powder]

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[Sarah Colonna]

And if guests start shifting from the.

[Susan Powder]

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[Sarah Colonna]

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[Susan Powder]

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[Caller/Listener]

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[Susan Powder]

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