
Todrick Hall, Joey Zauzig, & Shane Douglas join Jeff Lewis in Los Angeles.
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Jeff Lewis
I'm sorry, we didn't mean to offend anybody. We offend everybody.
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We live in a nest of positivity.
Jeff Lewis
I live in a nest of negativity.
Todrick Hall
She said, I swear you'll love him. I said, you could swear all day long.
Joey Zazig
I hate that guy.
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Jeff Lewis
Hey, welcome to Jeff Lewis. Lewis has issues. In today's episode, Todrick hall and Joey Zazig join the show. We talk about Todrick's tardiness, my ozempic face and Joey's spelling skills. Todrick hall just parked. We're waiting for him to come up in the elevator.
Todrick Hall
He's like pulling a dirty, like driving over the canyon with like a lit cigarette out the window. Like, that's what I'm imagining right now.
Jeff Lewis
Joey Z, you on your Instagram. And I hate when people do this. Just got great news. But then you don't tell us the news. But then you don't tell us the news.
Todrick Hall
I can't.
Jeff Lewis
It's like, I knew you were coming. People, like, big things are coming. Stay tuned. But then they don't tell you what it is. Why don't you just wait until you can announce it and tell us what it is?
Shane
The genre of the news.
Todrick Hall
It's just like a work. It's professional. Just a work thing that's moving forward a little bit more. You know, things fall out. No, it's annoying. I hate.
Jeff Lewis
Just got great news.
Todrick Hall
No, but it's worse when people are like, no, it's Worse when people are like this because that could be anything. It's worse when people are like work. Working on a really exciting secret project. Can't wait to let you guys know what it is.
Jeff Lewis
This is what you did.
Joey Z
That's exactly what you did.
Todrick Hall
Oh, well, fuck. I guess. I mean, I just wanted to celebrate.
Joey Z
Well, congratulations.
Todrick Hall
I'll tell you guys when I can. You know, you'll know right after. It's a professional thing that's just moving forward. There's actually no.
Jeff Lewis
Like, I would have waited personally. I would have waited until it was done and the ink was dry and then announce it.
Todrick Hall
Look who's here, honey. Oh, good.
Jeff Lewis
Todrick hall made it. Thank you for showing up. He is a vision. He has got a red T shirt, he has got a red and white ball cap on you.
Joey Z
Look, I am back. Here he is.
Jeff Lewis
Oh, good. I have a couple questions for you.
Todrick Hall
Okay, great.
Jeff Lewis
First of all, the last time you were here you were not happy with Joey's communication follow up skills. You had a talk with him, he said he was going to work hard to communicate, text you back, return your calls.
Todrick Hall
It feels like an immediate ambush. I just want you to know by the look on your face.
Jeff Lewis
No, I am just curious. Has he improved his communication skills?
Todrick Hall
Yes.
Jeff Lewis
He's getting back to you.
Todrick Hall
He's. He initiated two conversations, actually. I think not from a pure place of his heart, but because he wanted to prove a point on the radio show today.
Oh my.
Jeff Lewis
Oh, so you don't think it was sincere?
Todrick Hall
Well, would you think as sincere as somebody ghosted you for six months and then only started speaking to you because you put them on blast in front of millions of chumps?
You were literally in Europe, first of all. And second of all, I called you.
Before I knew you works in Europe. It's a crazy thing. I honestly have this like long distance plan at Verizon.
Jeff Lewis
In Joey's defense.
Todrick Hall
Yeah.
Jeff Lewis
I will say I think it was very clear to him that he was not being a good friend. And I think he actually, I think he's being sincere. I do. I think you do. I do.
Todrick Hall
Well, I called you like after the show, I think a day or two after because I did want to fill you in on my life and what's been going on because like I used to talk to you about everything, you know what I mean? And I feel like I thought the distance between us, whatever, I'm not going to explain myself, but I Do you.
Jeff Lewis
Have emotional fatigue when you talk to Joey?
Todrick Hall
I don't have emotional fatigue. I actually Love talking to Joey because at first, when I first met him and we had like this sort of dramatic thing where my ex assistant filmed me talking about Joey and then put it on TikTok because I was like, it was just a lot going on. I just don't know about him.
Jeff Lewis
Do you sue someone like that? Do you see someone.
Todrick Hall
Look at her face? Oh, yeah. I mean, there was recordings of Todrick talking about.
Jeff Lewis
Do you sue someone when that happens?
Todrick Hall
I'm not litigious in any way and I do not sue people because I would not sue someone unless I absolutely felt like it was necessary. I never have because I've been sued before and I. And I don't like it.
Jeff Lewis
Yeah, it's ugly and it's ugly, emotionally draining and expensive and all of that.
Todrick Hall
That person's unwell too. Like, he has nothing to lose.
Joey Z
Why would he do that?
Todrick Hall
He's unwell.
Right. But it actually made us closer. He tried to, like, put something in between us and I had a really real conversation with him and it was one of those moments where I was like, I really feel like Joey forgave me. And it's legitimately water under the bridge. And I feel like that moment, which was designed to separate us, actually made us closer.
Absolutely.
Jeff Lewis
I will say, though, you kind of miss the roller coaster that's been going on over the last. Was it six to eight weeks, Shane, with Joey?
Joey Z
Six to eight months?
Jeff Lewis
Yeah. No, it's like. No, I think the recent.
Joey Z
Oh, this? Yeah.
Jeff Lewis
Yeah. What's the status? You were dating someone the last time you were here?
Todrick Hall
The hickey.
Jeff Lewis
The hickey. You had a huge hickey that you could not hide.
Todrick Hall
Oh, guys. Well, we're not together anymore and it's sad, but I think, like, we both just decided that it just wasn't going to work. And it's sad. I'm sad. And that's all I want to say.
Jeff Lewis
Right.
Todrick Hall
That's all I did.
And. But I think we had. I mean, to me at least, I think we had a really close one. Listen, he's a really talented, amazing person. And I, you know, loved him. Love his friends. Like, we got close quickly. Maybe too quickly. I have love for him, of course.
But you said you loved him.
Well, I have love for him. I love Quick. I have a big heart.
But when you. Okay. Yeah.
Loved. Yeah. Like, I mean, we spent good time together. Like, we. It's, you know, it's nice to have somebody that, like, cares about you and that you care about. And that's just in general. And, like, we'll give you a hickey or two on it, but, yeah, just.
Jeff Lewis
Seem to move very quickly, and those kind of extinguish fast.
Todrick Hall
And maybe that was on my part, and maybe that, like, freaked him out or whatever it was, but I don't think it was working. Yeah, maybe.
Jeff Lewis
Maybe you moved a little too fast.
Todrick Hall
Maybe, but it wasn't working for either of us. And now it's just time to, like, kind of, like, focus on work.
Jeff Lewis
The last time you were here, you said that you had. You'd looked into maybe talking to a therapist. Have you met with anyone since then?
Todrick Hall
Can you guys. Do you guys want to know something? I booked the therapist that Liat was all up in, arms around, and, like, I talked to this lady, and I was kind of sketched out because this lady was like. Like, basically falling asleep on the phone. I was like, this is not legit. So I'm texting Liad as I'm talking to this lady. I'm like, liad, who is this lady? So cut to, we book an appointment. She calls me back two minutes later. Oh, I can't do that date. Let's do it again. Calls me back the third time and says, let's rebook yesterday. It was supposed to be at 11. I'm already in my house, like, 10:30, getting ready for hypnotherapy for two hours.
Jeff Lewis
Wait, so it's not a wait. Hold on. It's a hypnotherapist. It's not a psychologist or a psychiatrist.
Todrick Hall
It's hypnotherapy, but it's like, an intense therapy.
Joey Z
She's told us about this before.
Todrick Hall
Yeah, she swears by it. Liad said it would really help with just my divorce, everything I've gone through the past year.
Jeff Lewis
They're going to hypnotize you into forgetting it?
Todrick Hall
No, just it makes you, like. Like look at your childhood trauma and understand why you are the way you are and why you fall into the same patterns in your life. But listen, what happened was 10:30 rolls around, and this lady who was rescheduled on me texts me and goes, you know what? I have a cold. I don't think it's gonna be very relaxing to hear me sniffing and snarling or something, so I'm gonna have to cancel. I'll go.
I feel like this woman is literally Jeff's daughter.
Yeah. I'm like.
She's like, I don't have time.
Jeff Lewis
I don't want to work.
Todrick Hall
I think she's like, no, she really doesn't want to work because she was telling and be like, I'm in Syracuse visiting my parents. So she canceled. I was like, when can we do it? She was like, maybe like four weeks from now.
Jeff Lewis
And I go, I forget it.
Todrick Hall
I go, I need to book another. So I got another recommendation because I think I just want to, like, go. To just talk. Like, I think. I don't think I've really. The divorce and everything. I have. I really process it. I don't know. I've grown from it. But, like, I want to talk about it more than I do on the radio.
You know, earlier you asked me if I was over the drama, and I was exhausted. And I said, no, I would like to retract that statement.
Jeff Lewis
I mean, even she doesn't want to return his calls.
Joey Z
Even the therapist is. He is too much.
Todrick Hall
How am I going to get a therapist? They don't even want to call me back either.
Jeff Lewis
And then. Are you aware of the game we'll be playing in the second segment?
Todrick Hall
No.
Oh, my God.
Jeff Lewis
Oh, I think you're going to love it. It's called Spelling Bee with Joey Z. Where we give him 8th grade spelling words and see if he can spell them. And then you're going to have. See that little bell over there? When, if. I'm assuming you're going to get them all correct. But if he didn't, then if he's wrong, you will hit that buzzer. Is that correct?
Shane
Yes, as soon as he gets one wrong letter. So as he's spelling, even if he gets one wrong, that's as soon as you hit it. Those are spelling bees.
Jeff Lewis
I feel like he really.
Shane
I feel like those are spelling bee rules.
Jeff Lewis
I think you should be able to change it and be like, is that your final answer?
Shane
No, that's not how it goes for the spelling bee. As soon as they get one letter wrong. Ding.
Jeff Lewis
Are you sure?
Todrick Hall
Not ding.
Shane
But we can do whatever we want here. I love the spelling. I feel like, how many scripts, National Spelling Bees have you watched?
Todrick Hall
Oh, Shots Fired.
Shane
I'm just saying.
Todrick Hall
10.
10.
Shane
Wait, that's what they do.
Jeff Lewis
The question is, how many have you watched?
Shane
A lot, actually.
Jeff Lewis
That shit is televised.
Shane
It is surprising. It is surprisingly entertaining to watch these genius children spell. I don't know what.
Jeff Lewis
That's what it's gonna be. It's gonna be fun watching Joey.
Todrick Hall
I can't wait.
Shane
It's espn. It's wild.
Joey Z
I don't believe that's why he has espn.
Todrick Hall
I kind of, like, disassociated after eighth grade, so I don't really know, but hopefully I'll get some of the work.
Jeff Lewis
Did you graduate eighth grade?
Todrick Hall
Yeah.
Jeff Lewis
Okay.
Todrick Hall
I mean, I got to ninth grade, so I. I did go to a different school, though, after eighth grade, because it was supposed to be a school.
Every year they're like, get him out. Just pass him. Give him the diploma, whatever. Let him go.
Jeff Lewis
We don't want him here another year.
Todrick Hall
But I do it again. I went to private school. Then I got purposely kicked out of Catholic school because my parents would not let me leave. So I stole a Gatorade bottle in front of the headmaster purposely so they would kick me out because they had a zero tolerance. My parents wouldn't let me leave, but I was made fun of so bad because everyone thought I was gay.
Joey Z
Why would they think that?
Todrick Hall
I don't know.
Jeff Lewis
Now, what worries me about the spelling bee is that you did post something on your Instagram. When was it, Shane?
Joey Z
Yesterday.
Jeff Lewis
Yesterday. So you were doing a big fitting, and there was this whole wardrobe bar of suits, and you wrote fitting, and this is how he spelled it. F, I, T, I, N, G. And then he put eight GS, which is fine, the eight GS, but, you know, you really. You missed a T. I did miss.
Todrick Hall
A T. Oh, my God, that's embarrassing. No wonder so many chumps are like, joey, even if you can't spell, we're still gonna love you. Which is really cute. And thank you for the support, chumps. Okay, did I really forget the T? That's really embarrassing. I know. There's.
Jeff Lewis
You put one T in Fighting.
Todrick Hall
That looks tragic.
Fighting.
A great fitting, though.
Joey Z
What are the suits for?
Todrick Hall
I had dinner last night. I have a L'Oreal women in power Tonight gala.
Jeff Lewis
Wow.
Todrick Hall
Saturday, I have a, like, Friends friendsgiving brunch thing. And then next week, I have a, Like, a brand friendsgiving for a haircare brand. I'm working, girl.
Jeff Lewis
You are working. I thought you were going to Vegas.
Todrick Hall
Oh, I'm supposed to go to Vegas tonight. And we will see. I'm pending for the Formula One thing for Formula One. I'm pending for a job we are working out.
Jeff Lewis
Oh, is that the. Is that the good news? Just got great news.
Todrick Hall
No, girl, this is way bigger than that.
Jeff Lewis
So he posted on his Instagram that he just got great news, but didn't tell us the news.
Todrick Hall
Yeah, Real Friends got picked up for season two.
A lot of people are curious why I am having lunch with Dorian. So what does that say?
Are you really?
Jeff Lewis
It says nothing.
Todrick Hall
Oh, my God.
Joey Z
She made a friend.
Todrick Hall
I'm talking to 32 flavors, honey.
Wow.
Jeff Lewis
Okay.
Todrick Hall
I'm talking to 32 flavors. Is it 32 flavors?
Joey Z
Yeah.
Todrick Hall
Okay.
Joey Z
When Jeff Festa calls, you pick up the phone.
Todrick Hall
I don't think he's gonna call me back. I think I, like, trauma dumped on him. And I was like, literally, I burst into tears. I have to call. And he was like. I was like, I'm so sorry. I don't know why I'm crying. He's like, this is great. Keep going.
Jeff Lewis
Because they put him on tape for the new show, for Jeff's show. Wait, you were crying?
Todrick Hall
I got really emotional. They were asking me about my life and blah, blah, and I just cried. I genuinely cried.
Jeff Lewis
Well, great. You're going to get us picked up.
Todrick Hall
Literally. They were literally. The people on the call, their faces, they're like, no, no, keep going, keep going. Can we rerecord? And blah, blah. I was like, they were obsessed. And they're like, I think we got all we need. I really. They were like, you're making our job easy. Because I was just telling them about, like, the past year. I have. It was more like therapy.
Jeff Lewis
That's why I'm thinking you should. You might do well. Like telling all this to a therapist.
Todrick Hall
Yes. Yeah. Like, Annie, what are you doing later? You want to be like, therapist? Annie's gonna come over and listen to me.
Jeff Lewis
Trauma dumb and not a hypnotherapist. Like, a therapist therapist.
Joey Z
I don't even know therapy, I think.
Jeff Lewis
Wait, you don't.
Joey Z
You love to talk.
Jeff Lewis
You don't know what a hypnotherapist is?
Todrick Hall
Not at all. I just. Liar. Gave me the thing and said, this is what you need. And I said, great. Liar.
Joey Z
Okay.
Todrick Hall
You are so wild. You are the gift that keeps on giving.
Thanks. I need a little, like, encouragement today.
Did you send that guy? I just want to know this. Do you send these guys that you talk to that you allow to suck on your neck and require you to put makeup on to go to work the next day? Do you send them your nudes with your face in them?
Did I send you a nude? Was my face in that one that I sent you?
Yes, it was.
Jeff Lewis
Wait, you sent you a nude?
Todrick Hall
He sent me a nude?
Jeff Lewis
Why would you send.
Todrick Hall
Todrick's, like, my best friend. He asked for this picture that I showed him on my phone.
We were on a commercial break, and he showed me these pictures, and I said, you need to send this to me. It was a really great photo. I'm gonna just be really.
I'll show it to you just naked.
Fully naked. Full face full. Like everything. Like the atmosphere. Because sometimes I think harder soft people.
Jeff Lewis
Well, that's easy over there.
Todrick Hall
Yeah, that's. Let's not forget your black boyfriend.
It's cute.
Joey Z
Wow.
Jeff Lewis
You want to show Annie?
Todrick Hall
Wait, can the cameras see this?
The cameras can see this. It's not very big.
Look at Annie. She's ready to see. Annie's like, cameras.
Jeff Lewis
I don't think you should be showing the girls. I don't think it's a good idea.
Todrick Hall
No, it's not a good look.
Jeff Lewis
I don't think you should be showing anybody your pictures.
Todrick Hall
What happens?
Like my best friend.
I miss the days of hr.
Jeff Lewis
Oh, we still have.
Todrick Hall
Oh, honey, they're watching and they're listening those days live. And, well, they're ready to pout. Oh, God, am I never coming back after showing. Whatever. Sorry.
Jeff Lewis
You just showed Todrick and Shane.
Todrick Hall
Yeah, that's true.
Joey Z
It's just your boys and all the.
Todrick Hall
Cameras and the camera.
No, Naya. Shout out the app. Naya is much too innocent.
Jeff Lewis
Are you still on the app, Snail?
Todrick Hall
But do you.
Liad
No, I'm not anymore.
Jeff Lewis
You're off? Yeah, I'm taking a break too.
Todrick Hall
You're dating?
Liad
Dating someone. That's why.
Joey Z
Oh.
Jeff Lewis
What?
Liad
Yeah.
Jeff Lewis
Well, I hope it lasts longer than the Joey relationship.
Joey Z
She's a little more stable.
Todrick Hall
I'm not ready for that.
Joey Z
How long's it been?
Liad
Like a month and a half.
Jeff Lewis
This is so crazy that you haven't told us this.
Liad
Well, you haven't asked.
Jeff Lewis
That's true.
Todrick Hall
You're so self absorbed.
Jeff Lewis
And we don't really want to know anymore.
Todrick Hall
So moving on.
Jeff Lewis
So did you beat him on the app?
Liad
Yeah, on Bumble.
Jeff Lewis
Ooh, wow.
Todrick Hall
And Bumble is when the girl initially female forward. She is.
Jeff Lewis
She's so happy.
Liad
Yeah, I am.
Jeff Lewis
Does. Is he into you more than you're into him?
Liad
I think so. He's obsessed.
Jeff Lewis
That's good.
Todrick Hall
Who wouldn't be? Are you guys seeing each other every night or like, every other night?
Liad
What's two, three times a week?
Todrick Hall
That's good.
Keep it classy. That's what you need to do. You can't be too available.
Jeff Lewis
You can't help.
Todrick Hall
I was only seeing my ex. Like, I don't know. We couldn't make it through a week.
Oh, he's an ex.
Oh, he's an ex.
The new one. That hickey.
Yes, Hickeys.
Joey Z
And.
Jeff Lewis
But were you guys, like, committed for 24 hours or whatever?
Todrick Hall
No. Committed to. No. I do not know. I do not know.
Jeff, you Are looking good.
Jeff Lewis
Thank you. You know what? Someone gave me the ultimate compliment yesterday. We had posted a reel for oralucent the toothbrush and someone said I had ozempic face.
Todrick Hall
Oh, that is so sick.
Oh my God.
Jeff Lewis
I must look really thin.
Joey Z
I love that.
Jeff Lewis
I thought that was a great compliment.
Todrick Hall
You do look thinner. It is the cutting down on drinking that you have been doing. You look like a completely different person. It's so much better.
Jeff Lewis
I know I'm not just like a bloated fathead.
Todrick Hall
Yeah, just like those billboards that were around sunset for a while. Like you looked like a different person those than you do now. We have to reshoot.
Jeff Lewis
They're going to do a reshoot. See these pictures right here where you can see there's four chins.
Todrick Hall
I think you look very.
I think you look actually hot right there.
Really hot.
Jeff Lewis
What was 20 years ago?
Todrick Hall
Oh wow.
Joey Z
Three years ago with a hangover.
Todrick Hall
No, I think you look really hot now.
Jeff Lewis
You're supposed to reshoot it.
Todrick Hall
I can't wait for your photo shoot. Can I come? Isaiah, are we doing a studio?
Jeff Lewis
We can do a fitting. F I T I N G G G G G so tell us about this guy.
Todrick Hall
I just. I know how to follow rules.
Jeff Lewis
How old is he?
Liad
He's 24.
Jeff Lewis
Ooh, that's young. How old are you?
Liad
23.
Joey Z
Yeah, that's perfect.
Jeff Lewis
Oh fine. Okay. I thought you were older.
Joey Z
He has a job.
Todrick Hall
Yeah, no.
Jeff Lewis
Cause she's mature, she's smart, right?
Todrick Hall
You are on one too.
Jeff Lewis
No, no. She's mature and smart.
Todrick Hall
That's why I done 10 o'clock segment. Yeah, you're a little bit more awake than you usually are.
Yeah, he's warmed up.
Jeff Lewis
What does he do for a living?
Liad
He's a welder.
Todrick Hall
Ooh.
Joey Z
Oh, so hot.
Todrick Hall
Does he have only fans?
He's not afraid of welding and only fans. Welding welder.
Jeff Lewis
I've never met a welder.
Todrick Hall
Does he weld like we work with welders?
Joey Z
You have welders?
Todrick Hall
Welder.
I wonder if you guys know him.
Jeff Lewis
A hot welder?
Joey Z
Yeah.
Todrick Hall
Is he older?
Liad
He's 24.
Jeff Lewis
He's like, we already covered this, Joey.
Todrick Hall
The bell ran over.
Okay, it's really coming in handy.
Jeff Lewis
Thank you for coming.
Todrick Hall
Take the bell away from Todrick. This is too much.
Every time I see these bells I think of my milkshake. Brings other boys to the yard and they're like it's better than yours. Okay, sorry. Back to the welding.
Jeff Lewis
Wow. How tall is he?
Liad
Six one.
Jeff Lewis
Handsome.
Liad
Handsome?
Jeff Lewis
Oh yeah. He has a mustache.
Liad
Porn stash.
Jeff Lewis
Oh, a porn stash.
Joey Z
He's 24. He's allowed to do that.
Liad
Yeah.
Jeff Lewis
So two, three nights a week.
Joey Z
Yeah, perfect.
Jeff Lewis
Joey, you hearing this? You don't need to be with someone seven nights a week.
Todrick Hall
I don't want to be with someone seven nights a week.
Jeff Lewis
It's just six.
Todrick Hall
I want someone like two night, two, three nights a week right now.
Jeff Lewis
Did you. Didn't you move a little too fast and that kind of scared him off a bit?
Todrick Hall
Probably. I don't know. He'll never tell me.
Jeff Lewis
You need to ask your hypnotherapist.
Todrick Hall
Yeah, I got to talk to Janice. If she doesn't cancel on me again on December 12th or something. Oh, I have a lot going on December 12th. It's cooking Kibbits, hypnotherapy, the John Hill, Justin Sylvester Housewives Christmas Gay extravaganza.
Joey Z
Oh, we're going.
Todrick Hall
Yeah. You know what they always say?
Joey Z
The thing that Michael Beck texted us about?
Jeff Lewis
Oh yeah, I just bought tickets to that.
Todrick Hall
They always say, like, there's going to be hot single gays there. And it's just like, bravo, gays. It's just us.
Jeff Lewis
Oh, no one wants that.
Todrick Hall
Are we Bravo gays?
I've never done the show with my back. I feel like.
Oh, shit.
Michael Beck and I like had like a little, like a, like a little exchange years ago.
Joey Z
Like a sexual exchange?
Todrick Hall
No, not a sexual exchange. Like we were just going to maybe meet up. Like, I feel like we matched on Tinder and we're like going to talk for.
Jeff Lewis
I actually really like that coupling. But I do.
Todrick Hall
I love your partner who you've never met before.
Jeff Lewis
That's not true. I've met him before. I thought he was really, really nice guy. So we're not going to. We're not home recognizing.
Todrick Hall
Liam's the best.
Jeff Lewis
Plus Michael Beck's big mess.
Todrick Hall
He is.
Jeff Lewis
Yeah.
Todrick Hall
He's so cute to me.
Jeff Lewis
He's very cute.
Todrick Hall
So mature.
He built an app.
Jeff Lewis
No, no, no, no. He's a very successful guy. Yeah, but just, you know, after six and the drinks. Yeah, Bad influence. So I think what we're gonna do is we're gonna take a quick break. We come back, we're gonna be playing. I mean, this is an anticipated game. I got so many DMs over this.
Todrick Hall
Me too.
Jeff Lewis
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So this is the game that everyone has been waiting for. Spelling Bee with Joey Z. I'm going to give you 10 words from an 8th grade spelling test. Joey, the goal is to spell the words correctly. Take your time if need be. Todrick, you're going to ring the bell if Joey makes a mistake. But we know he won't. Okay, Joey, here we go. You ready for the first word?
Todrick Hall
Yeah.
Jeff Lewis
Oh, wait, he's looking at. He's looking at your paper.
Todrick Hall
I'm not looking at the paper. I'm not a cheater.
Jeff Lewis
The first word is obsessed.
Todrick Hall
O, B, S, S, E, S, E, D. You're just doing that to be a bitch.
No, that was wrong.
Jeff Lewis
Joey, try it again.
Todrick Hall
O B. Yeah. S. Yes. E, S, S, E, D. That is.
The correctly spelled word.
No, I did it.
Jeff Lewis
You forgot the E the first time.
Joey Z
You did two S's.
Shane
Maybe I did two S's.
Todrick Hall
My words.
Jeff Lewis
Don't let him see those words.
Joey Z
I spelled it wrong.
Todrick Hall
He can't see it.
Okay. All right, next.
Jeff Lewis
I think you're going to get this one. Awkward.
Todrick Hall
A W, K, W A R D. Wow.
Jeff Lewis
Okay. Okay. This. This is a tough one. Infidelity.
Todrick Hall
Something you know a lot about.
I am. Bitch. Shut the fuck up. I N F I D E L I T Y. Oh my God. Bitch. I'm so excited. Okay, Dax, come on. Come on at me.
Jeff Lewis
Privilege.
Todrick Hall
Come on. Privilege.
P R I V L E D G E P R I V. Real wrong. Le G. Yes.
No.
P R I V, L E D, G E.
Wrong.
Jeff Lewis
You spell it correctly.
Todrick Hall
P R I V, L E G E. No.
Jeff Lewis
Okay, he's done. Because he didn't get it.
Todrick Hall
P, R, I, V, I. Oh, L, E, G, E. There is no D.
I knew that I said that. You said a D. Okay, whatever, bitch.
Jeff Lewis
You always want to give the D the next word. He loves the D. Glamorous.
Todrick Hall
Glamorous. Okay. G L, A, M O, R I O, U, S. I, O, U, S. I G L, A, M O R I, O, O, U, S. Okay, Spell it correctly. Oh, without the I. G.L.
A. Yeah, glamorous.
You're just clicking the bell to click the bell now?
Jeff Lewis
Well, no, you misspelled it G L.
Todrick Hall
A, M O, R. Yes. O, U, S. Okay, you gotta correct that. Thank you. Just give me some time.
Okay, that's not how spelling you said.
Take time if need be.
Jeff Lewis
Yeah, but.
Todrick Hall
Yeah, but you can't spell the word wrong and then say you need more.
Jeff Lewis
Time and you spelled it wrong, like, four times.
Todrick Hall
I'm just adhd. I'm gonna focus now. Come on.
Can you spell adhd?
Jeff Lewis
All right. Ooh, this is a tough one. Okay, for an 8th grader anonymous.
Todrick Hall
I'm sure you've seen this as well.
N O, N, O, Y, M, O.
Jeff Lewis
U, S. Okay, spell it again, spell it again.
Todrick Hall
A N, O, N, Y, M, O.
Jeff Lewis
U, S. You got it.
Joey Z
There it is.
Jeff Lewis
Good job.
Todrick Hall
In spelling bees, they usually say M O, U, S. I have, like.
I'm like sweat.
Joey Z
Oh, yeah.
Todrick Hall
Say the word. If you ever successfully say one of the words again, say.
Yeah. These are tough words for an.
Joey Z
Apart the word at the end.
Jeff Lewis
Okay, okay. Lucrative. Sound it out, sound it out. Lucrative.
Todrick Hall
L, U, C, R I, A L, U, C, R, I.
You just did it again.
Oh, wait, no, no. This is easy. This is easy. L, U, C. It hasn't been easy. R, A, T, I, V, E. Yes. Lucrative.
Jeff Lewis
Great.
Todrick Hall
Lubricant is the next word.
Jeff Lewis
Oh, okay, this one's hard.
Todrick Hall
Lubricant.
No, no, no. That's not the word. I know you know how to spell that.
Jeff Lewis
Unbelievable, girl.
Todrick Hall
U, N, B, E, L, I, E V I B L, E, E B, L, E E L, E, B, L.
E. That's even worse. You gotta stop putting the faith in these eyes.
I know. I'm putting a lot of faith in I's.
And you actually mouthed the right letter.
Okay. U, N, B, E. L, I, E V, E, E, O, E, V, A, B, L, E. There you go. Unbelievable.
Yeah, ain't that right?
Jeff Lewis
I'm sweating.
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Jeff Lewis
Okay, we have two more words. Joey, you're doing a great job.
Todrick Hall
Have I gotten one?
Jeff Lewis
Yes, you did.
Todrick Hall
No, I've gotten all of them eventually.
Jeff Lewis
Well, no, you didn't get all of them.
Todrick Hall
Well, just with a few slip ups.
Joey Z
Second chance. Spelling.
Jeff Lewis
Psychology.
Todrick Hall
P, H, Y. Oh, P. What?
Jeff Lewis
Don't help.
Joey Z
You're thinking psychiatrist.
Todrick Hall
Oh, I'm thinking psych. Okay, I'm in the hypnotherapy mindset. PY Psychiatrist. P, H, P, Y. I don't know. Fuck it. Spell it for me.
Jeff Lewis
Don't give up.
Joey Z
Give the first two PS What?
Todrick Hall
That really doesn't seem right to me.
You can tell it doesn't seem right to you.
Psych.
Yeah.
C, O, L, O, G, Y. Oh, no.
Just take your time. Slow down. P.S.
Jeff Lewis
We already gave you that.
Todrick Hall
Slow down. That's my problem.
Psychology. So that's the problem.
Psy.
That's right.
C, O.
No.
Hey. Psychology.
He's like, cute, like.
Joey Z
Psych. Think of psych.
Todrick Hall
Oh, H. Yes. O, L, O, G, Y.
Yes. Now do that whole thing together quickly.
P, S, Y, C, O. Oh, my God.
Joey Z
You always get stuck on that one.
Todrick Hall
It's really hard. Guys. I really can do it.
Jeff Lewis
You can do it. Help him.
Todrick Hall
P, S, Y, C. Does the letter keep missing O?
No.
Start with psychic. Let's go to the next one. I can't with this anymore.
Jeff Lewis
You almost have it. You almost have it.
Todrick Hall
I'm a personality, not a speller.
Joey Z
Okay, I just got one wrong.
Todrick Hall
That's it.
Jeff Lewis
My boss just texted me. OMG Spelled omg.
Todrick Hall
You guys, this is really bad.
Jeff Lewis
Okay, sorry. You want to go to the next one?
Todrick Hall
Yes. Go to the last one.
I don't think there's any hope. We should stop now.
Jeff Lewis
Chauffeur.
Todrick Hall
Oh, C H A U F F E R. Very close. C H A U E F F E, R. He said C H A U.
Jeff Lewis
Slow down. Okay.
Todrick Hall
C H A U F F U R. E U, R E U, R. Yeah. Thank you.
Jeff Lewis
Okay. Thank you for playing spelling bee with Joey Z.
Todrick Hall
You really did just a personality.
Jeff Lewis
If you were in eighth grade, I think he would have got a C.
Shane
Well, that was three out of ten correct.
Todrick Hall
No, that's not true. I got like five.
Joey Z
Well, that was just a pretest. So maybe we come back in a week and do like the.
Todrick Hall
Let's go to something a little bit lighter. How about.
Jeff Lewis
So he failed the eighth grade spelling test.
Shane
That would be a 30%. Is.
Todrick Hall
Is failing.
Shane
Yes.
Jeff Lewis
I'm sorry.
Todrick Hall
You know what, am I getting fired now? Like, Jim's like, pass.
Joey Z
Fails to be a chump.
Jeff Lewis
But I will say I. It's hard. Like, I have to almost see it, like, write it like I can spell it correctly, but I almost see a word.
Todrick Hall
Well, that would take the national spelling bee.
Shane
They're not allowed to write it, but they do have a card with their name. And very often the kids will pick up the card and spell it with their finger kind of on the card.
Todrick Hall
If I could write it. Yeah, if I could write it, I would get them 100%. Maybe not psychology.
I have a lot of faith in that.
Jeff Lewis
All right, let's. Which one was he? Did he absolutely miss, like, again and again and again?
Todrick Hall
Psychology, I would say there's so many of them, but psychology is probably lucrative.
Jeff Lewis
He's looking at it.
Shane
Lucrative was a tough one, too.
Jeff Lewis
Okay, just have him write it. I'm just curious. Lucrative.
Todrick Hall
Okay.
Joey Z
Can we borrow a pen?
Jeff Lewis
Yeah, here, borrow my pen. Just write it. Let's see if you can do. I think if you look at it, you can get it.
Joey Z
He's writing.
Jeff Lewis
Yeah, because that's kind of the way I am.
Todrick Hall
That's still wrong.
Jeff Lewis
How did he spell it?
Todrick Hall
With an A.
With an I. It's lucrative.
Joey Z
The vowels are tricky because we pronounce them all the same.
Jeff Lewis
Can he do psychology if he writes it down?
Todrick Hall
Chauffeur. See, I'm like, not bad, guys.
Jeff Lewis
It's just like, Justin Martindale just texted me jumping off a bridge.
Joey Z
Unrelated.
Jeff Lewis
Joey, it's fun. No, you did a good job.
Todrick Hall
You did a really good job.
Jeff Lewis
You really did a good job. I personally, honestly, I would have trouble. I'd have to write it down or at least write on a card with my fingers.
Todrick Hall
Yeah.
Joey Z
Do you want a Sketchers card?
Jeff Lewis
Do you want to give you a.
Todrick Hall
I have something to say, but I'm not going to say it.
Say it.
No, it's okay. No, I don't want to.
Okay.
Jeff Lewis
Is it about Justin? Because he was joking.
Todrick Hall
Oh, no, no, no.
Jeff Lewis
Okay. Is it about Tim? Because he was joke. Jim.
Todrick Hall
No, I love Jim.
Jeff Lewis
Okay.
Todrick Hall
I wish Jim and I could.
Jeff Lewis
So you're upset. Why are you upset?
Todrick Hall
Get your feelings. No, I'm not. You love to do that.
Jeff Lewis
Come on.
Todrick Hall
You want to shut up. Okay, next thing, guys. Okay.
Jeff Lewis
You don't want to communicate.
Todrick Hall
Yeah, that's bad. It's immature for you to say I have something to say, but I'm not going to say it and make us beg you to say it.
No, nothing's. Oh, my God. This is like, the whole, like, Instagram story of me saying that I had something really exciting to say and I didn't say it, so I'm not annoying person.
Joey Z
You're a tease.
Todrick Hall
I just didn't like the jumping off the bridge comment.
Jeff Lewis
He was just kidding.
Todrick Hall
That's not funny.
Jeff Lewis
I thought it was funny, okay? I thought it was funny.
Todrick Hall
Do you think it's funny, Todrick?
I'm indifferent. I can understand why.
Jeff Lewis
Exactly. I don't. I like when people make fun of me.
Todrick Hall
So that's like a little intense.
You're usually not good at taking it all. So I can understand why you would think it was funny. I mean, why you wouldn't think it was funny. Anyway. That was a really good. That was a really good game.
Did you ring the bell again to lighten it up?
Joey Z
You're great at the bell.
Todrick Hall
Who the fuck?
Can you spell something? So I have reason to.
Jeff Lewis
All right. So, as you know, I've been on hormone replacement for the last few years. And Shane is. He is my nurse. He injects me four times a week with testosterone. And now we have the correct fertility drug which keeps my testicles from shrinking. We realized I have been bruising. It has been, like, painful. And fortunately, you've always just done them.
Joey Z
In your shoulder and your arm because that's just kind of like where shots go.
Jeff Lewis
Which we turned out, it turns out that's not actually the best place to inject. So for two years we've been injecting into the muscle, which is probably why it's so painful and which is why it bruises and bubbles. So yesterday. So we had a recommendation either to inject me in my ass, which you.
Joey Z
Obviously wouldn't feel a thing, or thank you.
Jeff Lewis
Or my stomach. So yesterday we decided to inject into the stomach. Didn't feel a thing.
Todrick Hall
Wow.
Jeff Lewis
It didn't. Bruce. We should have been doing that a long time ago, literally.
Joey Z
And it was easier. It just fell right in there.
Shane
You just need a really fatty area. Is that what it is?
Todrick Hall
Wow.
Jeff Lewis
Yes. We had no trouble pinching enough fat and I didn't feel. I didn't feel a thing. Thanks for listening. If you want more of this, listen to Jeff Lewis live every weekday on SiriusXM as well as the Jeff Lewis Channel, exclusively on the SiriusXM app.
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Podcast Summary: Jeff Lewis Has Issues
Episode: Todrick Hall & Joey Zauzig
Release Date: November 29, 2024
Host: SiriusXM’s Jeff Lewis
In this episode of Jeff Lewis Has Issues, Jeff Lewis welcomes two recurring guests: renowned performer Todrick Hall and the ever-controversial Joey Zauzig. The trio dives deep into personal dynamics, past conflicts, and current endeavors, all delivered with Jeff’s signature no-filter style.
Timestamp: [03:05] – [04:24]
Jeff initiates the conversation by addressing previous communication issues between Todrick and Joey. He references a past concern where Joey struggled with responsiveness, which had previously strained their friendship.
Jeff Lewis ([03:05]): “Has he improved his communication skills?”
Todrick Hall ([03:26]): “Yes. He initiated two conversations, actually. I think not from a pure place of his heart, but because he wanted to prove a point on the radio show today.”
Todrick expresses skepticism about Joey’s sincerity, highlighting that Joey’s efforts to reconnect may have been driven by the spotlight rather than genuine intent.
Todrick Hall ([03:37]): “He’s being sincere. I do.”
Jeff counters by acknowledging that Joey likely recognizes his past shortcomings and is making an effort to mend the friendship.
Jeff Lewis ([03:59]): “I think he's being sincere. I do. I think you do. I do.”
Timestamp: [05:02] – [06:50]
The discussion shifts to Todrick’s recent breakup, where he openly discusses the end of a relationship marked by rapid progression and eventual mutual decision to part ways.
Todrick Hall ([05:02]): “We’re not together anymore and it’s sad, but I think, like, we both just decided that it just wasn’t going to work. And it’s sad. I’m sad.”
Jeff probes further, suggesting that the relationship might have moved too quickly, leading to its swift dissolution.
Jeff Lewis ([06:35]): “You seem to move very quickly, and those kind of extinguish fast.”
Todrick agrees, reflecting on the intensity of the relationship and acknowledging that perhaps the rapid pace was a factor in its end.
Todrick Hall ([06:38]): “Maybe that was on my part, and maybe that, like, freaked him out or whatever it was, but I don’t think it was working.”
Timestamp: [06:50] – [08:54]
Jeff brings up Todrick’s previous mention of considering therapy, prompting Todrick to share his challenging experiences with finding a suitable therapist.
Jeff Lewis ([06:50]): “Have you met with anyone since then?”
Todrick Hall ([06:58]): “I booked the therapist that Liad was all up in, arms around... [shares frustrating experiences with rescheduling and cancellations].”
Todrick expresses frustration with the therapy process, highlighting the difficulty in finding a committed professional to support his mental health needs.
Todrick Hall ([08:37]): “I have something to say, but I’m not going to say it.”
Jeff empathizes, acknowledging the emotional toll of such challenges.
Jeff Lewis ([08:37]): “That’s why I’m thinking you should. You might do well like telling all this to a therapist.”
Timestamp: [24:07] – [35:16]
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to the highly anticipated Spelling Bee with Joey Z. Jeff introduces the game, where Joey Z is tasked with spelling eight-grade level words while Todrick serves as the judge, ready to ring the bell upon any mistakes.
Jeff Lewis ([24:07]): “So this is the game that everyone has been waiting for. Spelling Bee with Joey Z.”
The game proves to be both entertaining and challenging, with Joey Z struggling to spell several words correctly. Todrick’s playful yet critical approach adds humor and tension to the segment.
Notable Moments:
First Word – "Obsessed"
Jeff Lewis ([24:34]): “The first word is obsessed.”
Todrick Hall ([24:36]): “O, B, S, S, E, S, E, D.” (Misspells, prompting Todrick to ding)
Second Word – "Awkward"
Jeff Lewis ([25:04]): “I think you’re going to get this one. Awkward.”
Todrick Hall ([25:07]): “A W, K, W A R D.” (Incorrect spelling leads to another ding)
Final Words and Conclusion
Despite multiple errors, Joey Z shows improvement, successfully spelling words like "nonymo" ([27:19]) and "lucrative" ([28:29]). However, the game ends with Joey missing "psychology" and "chauffeur," resulting in a final ding from Todrick.
Jeff Lewis ([32:08]): “Well, that was three out of ten correct.”
Todrick Hall ([32:13]): “No, you got like five.”
Jeff Lewis ([32:27]): “I’m sorry.”
Todrick Hall ([33:04]): “Commuting to the final word, “chauffeur,” Joey Z stretches the experience with additional comedic remarks.
The segment highlights Joey Z’s ongoing struggles with spelling, providing both humor and camaraderie among the guests.
Timestamp: [35:03] – [36:30]
Jeff shifts the conversation to his personal health journey, specifically his hormone replacement therapy. He shares details about transitioning injection sites to reduce pain and bruising, offering transparency about his experiences.
Jeff Lewis ([35:03]): “I’ve been on hormone replacement for the last few years. Shane is my nurse...”
Todrick Hall ([35:57]): “Wow.”
Jeff Lewis ([35:57]): “Yes. We had no trouble pinching enough fat and I didn’t feel a thing.”
This segment underscores Jeff’s openness about his personal health, fostering a sense of vulnerability and honesty within the show’s dynamic.
As the episode draws to a close, Jeff encourages listeners to tune in to his live broadcasts and highlights the ongoing support from his team, including nurse Shane and the ever-present Joey Z. The episode wraps up with light-hearted banter and a reaffirmation of the deep, albeit tumultuous, friendships among the trio.
This episode of Jeff Lewis Has Issues offers a candid look into the lives of Jeff Lewis, Todrick Hall, and Joey Zauzig. From mending broken communication lines and navigating personal relationships to engaging in humorous games and discussing health journeys, the trio provides listeners with a blend of heartfelt conversations and entertaining interactions. Jeff’s unfiltered approach ensures that the discussions remain genuine and relatable, making this episode a compelling listen for both regular followers and newcomers alike.