Todrick Hall & Michael Beck: Unf*ckwittable & Storage Rats

Summary

JEFF LEWIS HAS ISSUES
Episode: Todrick Hall & Michael Beck: Unf*ckwittable & Storage Rats
Date: April 15, 2026
Host: Jeff Lewis
Guests: Todrick Hall, Michael Beck, Susan Powder

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Episode Overview

This episode brings Todrick Hall and Michael Beck back to "Jeff Lewis Has Issues" after time away for work and personal projects. The conversation is a candid, funny, and sometimes brutally honest dive into workplace drama, creative ambitions, relationships, and Jeff's ever-messy, always-entertaining personal life. Highlights include Todrick’s new motto for 2026, “unfuckwittable,” stories of storage unit horror, Broadway adventures, and the ongoing saga with a struggling staff member.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Staff Drama & Workplace Challenges

[01:22–06:50]

• Annie the Employee: The episode opens with Todrick walking into the studio amidst Jeff disciplining Annie, a team member, for not fulfilling her duties (content creation and guest care).
  • Todrick’s take: “I was like, if my own Devil Wears Prada 3, like, what's happening? I was like, oh, shit.” (02:33, Todrick Hall)
• Failure to Deliver: Criticism centers on Annie posting her own fun, while Jeff’s social content remains “dry boots, desolate crickets dot com.” Annie, it’s noted, has been frequenting NYC nightlife instead of editing reels for Jeff’s show.
• Guest Care: Missed breakfast and drink orders lead to playful but pointed talk about staff obligations and “racism and homophobia... alive and well in 2026.” (07:03, Todrick Hall – sarcastic)
• Expectations and Second Chances: Later, a listener questions if Jeff was clear with Annie about expectations, leading to a broader discussion about setting boundaries and when to “cut the cord” on underperforming employees. (44:54-46:47)

2. Parenting, Family, and Boundaries

[08:21–11:16]

• Monroe’s Hustle: Jeff’s daughter Monroe is earning money as “flight attendant” on family trips – showing both praise and playful competitiveness, as Jeff describes having to “rub it in her face” after winning at Uno.
• Parenting Style: Conversation about rewarding Monroe for every holiday – even MLK Day – and the blurred lines between discipline, generosity, and being manipulated by his daughter.

3. Todrick’s NYC Life & Artistic Journey

[11:40–13:59, 26:02–29:34]

• Moving to New York: Todrick gushes about his fresh two-bedroom apartment in Manhattan, pushing back on online comments about it being a “downgrade” from his LA house.
  • “I like am in love with this city....I’m just like living my life, going to see Broadway musicals, working on my own show.” (12:05, Todrick Hall)
• Broadway Hustle: Todrick details his transition from LA reality TV to writing/performing musicals in London and New York—describing the tough realities, lack of money, and “rebuilding” career in theater.
• Dreams for ‘Midnight’: His life’s mission is to get his original musical ‘Midnight’ to Broadway and to do so, he moved with “16 bags” in tow. (28:33, Todrick Hall)
  • “I have been sharing every part of my journey on Instagram because I'm rebuilding. I had a career in LA... and theater doesn't pay anything.” (28:33, Todrick Hall)

4. Relationships, Dating, and Boundaries

[13:59–25:31]

• Breakup Lessons: Todrick shares the story of his breakup with Liam during the Burlesque show run due to lack of support and boundaries, emphasizing the need for a partner who “rides for me.”
  • “Is this not the gayest breakup ever? I needed him to rhinestone some costumes for me. I said, enough. I've had enough.” (15:12, Todrick Hall)
• Jeff vs. Todrick—Eligible Partners: They riff on Todrick’s famous “future man requirements” list, with Jeff evaluating how many boxes he ticks, and playful banter about which musicals Jeff would stomach for a possible romantic connection.
• Open Relationships: The group discusses polyamory and monogamy in the gay community, the prevalence (and perceptions) of open relationships, and trust dynamics.
  • “If you don't want to be polyamorous and have 16 boyfriends, it's like, you might as well give up on having a relationship.” (23:53, Todrick Hall – half-joking)

5. Broadway Shows and Pop Culture

[15:53–17:33, 26:54–27:45]

• What Musicals Does Jeff Like? Short, energetic shows like ‘Six’, ‘& Juliet’, and possibly ‘Titanique’. He famously left ‘Wicked’ at intermission: “We left at intermission of Wicked” (16:25, Jeff Lewis).
• Hardest-Working Performers: Todrick praises Broadway artists, referencing even pop icons like Megan Thee Stallion needing breaks when performing live theater.

6. Social Media, Public Scrutiny, and Self-Worth

[35:08–39:25]

• ‘Unfuckwittable’—2026 Motto:
  • “It means, like, be so undeniable at what you do that nobody can, like, take it away … I think we all as human beings sometimes feel undervalued.” (35:13, Todrick Hall)
• Handling Haters: The group discusses online negativity, financial realities of living in NYC, and letting go of external validation.
  • “People are just haters. Some people hate for the sake of hating.” (38:54, Susan Powder)
  • “I’m so much happier playing the donkey in Shrek than killing myself in LA to keep up this house.” (39:25, Todrick Hall)

7. Storage Unit Horror Stories (“Storage Rats”)

[40:09–43:18]

• Rats in Storage: Jeff regales Todrick with horror stories of rats infesting storage units—a recurring theme with comedic tension and rising panic from Todrick about his Broadway costumes and personal items languishing in LA storage.
  • “Rats love wicked costumes.” (41:06, Jeff Lewis)
  • “This is homophobic behavior once again.” (41:31, Todrick Hall – joking)
• The Real NYC Welcome: Todrick admits he landed in NYC and went straight to Chick Fil A despite the brand’s anti-LGBTQ history; which the group jokes is practically inevitable as a guilty pleasure.

8. Workplace Culture, Setting Boundaries, and Growth

[46:51–48:24]

• Jeff sums up his work style: “I think it was just setting boundaries. Right. This is what I'm expecting.” (47:44, Jeff Lewis)
• The group teases Jeff as “the gay Miranda Priestly,” referencing his no-nonsense approach with staff (and the camera reels).
• Michael Beck is congratulated for a GLAAD Award for “Southern Hospitality.”
• Todrick admits initial fear of Jeff but ultimately finds him likable, despite the tough love.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “If you stay petty, you ain’t gotta get petty.” (33:16, Todrick Hall)
• “Is this not the gayest breakup ever? I needed him to rhinestone some costumes for me. I said, enough. I've had enough.” (15:12, Todrick Hall)
• “It means, like, be so undeniable at what you do that nobody can, like, take it away.” (35:13, Todrick Hall, on being ‘unfuckwittable’)
• “Rats love wicked costumes.” (41:06, Jeff Lewis)
• “People fuck with you because you're so real and raw and unfuck wittable.” (37:10, Todrick Hall on Jeff Lewis)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 01:22 – Annie drama, staff failings, expectations
• 08:21 – Parenting stories, Monroe’s work ethic
• 11:40 – Todrick’s NYC apartment and moving story
• 13:59 – Breakup story, need for supportive partners
• 16:25 – Musicals debate, Jeff’s ADD
• 23:53 – Polyamory and relationship expectations in gay life
• 26:54 – Broadway hustle and performer struggles
• 28:33 – Todrick on building his show, imposter syndrome
• 35:13 – The “Unfuckwittable” motto explained
• 38:54 – Social media, haters, financial reality
• 40:09 – Storage rats horror, comedic panic
• 44:54 – Listener call-in about Annie, setting expectations
• 47:44 – Jeff on boundaries and management style
• 49:00 – Todrick’s “black code” story, flying with 16 bags

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Tone & Style

The conversation is irreverent, honest, and filled with campy, quick-fire humor. Both Jeff and Todrick speak their minds with sharp asides but there are also candid moments about vulnerability, ambition, and growth. The group’s chemistry is clear; banter about homophobia, parenting, and workplace disappointment is peppered with in-jokes and genuine support.

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For Listeners New to the Episode

This is a quintessential “Jeff Lewis Has Issues” installment: staff headaches, biting wit, pop culture, unfiltered emotional transparency, and hot takes about everything from parenting to theater rats. If you want insider gay culture, reality TV confessions, and the world’s shadiest HR meeting, listen in for wild honesty and a lot of laughs.

Transcript

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[Michael Beck]

When you're Jeff Lewis, the drama never stops.

[Jeff Lewis]

They said that I am by far the most difficult talent that they're working with. You know, we could say we don't judge. I judge, and I was judging. Money doesn't make you an asshole. But if you're an asshole and with a ton of money, you're gonna be a bigger asshole. Why are you looking at me? No, I didn't. I didn't mean to. I didn't mean to look in that direction. Why did you look right at me?

[Todrick Hall]

Jeff Lewis has issues.

[Jeff Lewis]

Hey, welcome to Jeff Lewis Has. In today's episode, Todrick hall and Michael Beck join the show from New York City. We talk about diet lemonade and storage rats. Plus, Todrick discusses his new life motto. Welcome back, you both. Hi.

[Susan Powder]

Good morning.

[Jeff Lewis]

So Todrick. Todrick has been, what, gone for a year and a half, Is that correct?

[Michael Beck]

Like a year and three months. I think I counted.

[Susan Powder]

Wow, that's a long time.

[Jeff Lewis]

And then how long have you been gone, Michael?

[Susan Powder]

December 31st. That was my last appearance. So three months.

[Jeff Lewis]

So because he's the showrunner on the new flipping out spin off, Bravo did not want him on the radio. They didn't want you moonlighting.

[Susan Powder]

No.

[Jeff Lewis]

But now you're. We're done with principal photography.

[Susan Powder]

We are.

[Jeff Lewis]

So you're back on the radio.

[Susan Powder]

Yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

Now, Todrick. I do want to apologize. Todrick was. By the way, Todrick is very professional. He was very punctual.

[Michael Beck]

Punctual.

[Todrick Hall]

Thank you.

[Jeff Lewis]

So punctual. He was actually earlier than the time, than his call time, which I appreciate.

[Todrick Hall]

Thank you.

[Jeff Lewis]

However, you walked in right during a little bit of a heated moment between myself and said employee Annie Sharp.

[Todrick Hall]

Yes, I did. I wouldn't say I walked in on it. I watched it all happen from the moment you walked in. So we were coming up the elevator and they were like, did Annie ask you if you wanted something to drink? And I didn't realize the shots were about to be fired. I was like, no, she didn't text me. And I just saw your eyes went sort of like red. And then we walk into the room and you're like, annie, did you ask Todrick if you would like something to drink? And she was like, no. Which you already knew the answer. He was like, so, did you put up the cameras downstairs? And she said, yes. He said, okay, I want you to unput them up, I want you to fold them up, I want you to take them to the hotel. I want you to edit six. The video needs to be ready by 3pm today. I need two videos and reels by the end of the week. I need you to get behind the scenes footage. And then he was like, that's all. I was like, if my own devil wears Prada 3, like, what's happening? I was like, oh, shit. And then it was quiet in the room and I was like, hey, Annie, nice jacket.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah, you were very uncomfortable. I'm sorry to put you in that position.

[Todrick Hall]

It's okay. But I was like, oh, shit. And as soon as she left, I said, oh, Annie's in. I said, annie, are you okay? Are you okay?

[Susan Powder]

Annie for a year and a half and just walked into a shit show.

[Todrick Hall]

It was wild.

[Jeff Lewis]

Well, the backstory, girl, that ain't true.

[Susan Powder]

I thought she was here. Oh, my God.

[Jeff Lewis]

The backstory is, you know, I elected to bring her on this trip. We flew out on Monday, we're leave tomorrow. And literally nothing has happened since she's been here. And you know, Mike, you and I were talking. She has been going out at night. And really, truly, I don't. I mean, look, unless she's coming in at three or four and waking people up, it's not that big of a deal if you were getting your job done. But she's not getting the work done. We had this problem. It wasn't the last time in New York.

[Michael Beck]

The time before it was in June, I remember. Yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

Where she's just posting all day every day on her Instagram of what she's doing and failing to do what she's been paid to do, which is come here. And, you know, she films reels. She clips reels. She does behind the scenes. And we were not allowed to do behind the scenes reels while we were shooting. So it's important that we get those back on the. On Instagram because they really have the most engagement. I haven't seen one. Have you?

[Michael Beck]

I mean, my. Of course, my instinct is to, like, stand up for her. But then Jeff's like, okay, what videos have been cut this week? And I'm looking in the group chat, and there's just like, there's not. There's not much going on.

[Susan Powder]

Well, that's. I was coming here to, like, I was gonna be prepared to, like, defend her and have a little fun with you about her going out, because we went out last night, but I didn't know that she's not doing her job. That's a problem.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah. So.

[Todrick Hall]

But her outfit was so cute, you guys. She looked so cute. I've been. I've been in this situation before. I had to talk to an assistant before because was supposed to be shooting content for me. And every day I go on his story and I'm like, this is amazing. And it looks like he's on vacation. And mine was dry boots, desolate crickets dot com. And I'm like, why is my content.

[Jeff Lewis]

That's the most frustrating part, because if you look at her Instagram, there's Behind the Scenes of American Dream Mall, the caviar place, all these places that you were. We were there and you were being paid to. To basically document our lives. So, you know, it's. I think the writing's on the wall

[Susan Powder]

and your Instagram is dry boots.

[Todrick Hall]

Your Instagram is dry boots.

[Jeff Lewis]

But I do. Before, you know, I get myself riled up, but then I calm down and I. Before I react, I said to Shane, okay, what is realistic? I want to be very reasonable here. How many reels should we have seen already? Today's Friday, and you know, we should. We had three film Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday.

[Michael Beck]

There were each two hours. We had really strong guests. So I said, you know, three clips would be great, but we've had. I mean, five would be exceptional. We've had a really strong guess.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah.

[Todrick Hall]

And.

[Jeff Lewis]

But we've not seen any reels. But if you look. You know what? Actually, you should go to her Instagram because you'll see all the content isn't popping. You'll see all her legs. Reels that I have paid For. And the. I mean, the flights. Even the flights are expensive.

[Michael Beck]

I mean, what are those, like, a few grand?

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah, so I'm not happy today.

[Todrick Hall]

So, kids, if you're out there and you're assisting somebody, if you're gonna post good content on your page and not on theirs, mute them, okay? They can't be. Let them see all the great content on your story.

[Jeff Lewis]

Now, coming up the elevator, when I realized that your drink order had not been. Nobody had reached out about your drink order or breakfast order. I was very concerned. And you called it out.

[Todrick Hall]

Racism and homophobia is alive and well in 2026.

[Jeff Lewis]

And I didn't realize that. She didn't ask. That ain't. I didn't realize that your order had not been taken either. So initially, racism. I just. I really went there and I said, I am so sorry, Todrick. I thought we got rid of all the racists in the office.

[Todrick Hall]

They're still alive. They're still amongst us.

[Susan Powder]

They're still here.

[Jeff Lewis]

So I was happy to hear that she also forgot to take your order.

[Susan Powder]

She did.

[Todrick Hall]

But you're. You're a little. You know, you got a little sauce in the.

[Susan Powder]

I'm half Mexican, so that's still when

[Michael Beck]

you watched us eat breakfast burritos. I'm sorry.

[Susan Powder]

I know. I was wondering about that. Actually. I went to myself because I had it heard, and it was like, 11:25, and I was like, I haven't heard, so maybe I'll just go myself.

[Todrick Hall]

We should go on X's. Why did you just talk about how they're starving the guests on Jeff Lewis Live? We're all famished.

[Susan Powder]

The budget cuts.

[Todrick Hall]

The budget cuts are real.

[Jeff Lewis]

Why didn't she just ask you at the bar last night between shots?

[Todrick Hall]

I don't.

[Susan Powder]

Maybe she forgot. I don't know.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay.

[Susan Powder]

Yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

All right. So how many bars did you go to last night?

[Susan Powder]

I went to two. Annie only went to one. She came out for just a little bit.

[Jeff Lewis]

I think.

[Susan Powder]

She only came out for one drink and then she left, but I went for two. I met some friends and had a couple drinks. I'm really sorry I missed out on Uno. I almost got shamed into going back to Jeff's hotel to play Uno.

[Michael Beck]

It was actually really fun.

[Susan Powder]

I just had other plans, unfortunately.

[Jeff Lewis]

It was really fun. Until Monroe started crying.

[Michael Beck]

Well, because you are a really sore winner.

[Jeff Lewis]

I'm a sore winner. I won three times in a row. But she gotta learn.

[Susan Powder]

And then you rubbed it in her face.

[Jeff Lewis]

She's gotta learn.

[Todrick Hall]

Oh, no, you're not.

[Jeff Lewis]

Always gonna win.

[Susan Powder]

She's nine.

[Todrick Hall]

I would hate that.

[Jeff Lewis]

Not always gonna win.

[Michael Beck]

She wins a lot. And she loves to gloat.

[Jeff Lewis]

She really does. Very ra. Do I win like that? So I got three first place and one second place, right?

[Michael Beck]

Yeah. Pretty good record.

[Jeff Lewis]

I did pretty good.

[Todrick Hall]

You let her have it.

[Susan Powder]

And she cried.

[Jeff Lewis]

But she got me back today because this morning. So she had some money that she had earned and she.

[Todrick Hall]

Fine. Earned.

[Jeff Lewis]

She worked for it.

[Susan Powder]

What did she do?

[Jeff Lewis]

She was our flight attendant on the way here. And she did a great job.

[Michael Beck]

Yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

Very professional.

[Michael Beck]

When she. When she's on it, she's on it.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yes.

[Michael Beck]

She loves her breaks, but who. Who, who doesn't?

[Todrick Hall]

Yeah, Right. She deserves it.

[Jeff Lewis]

So she got paid $20 an hour. It was a five hour flight, so she made $100.

[Susan Powder]

Wow.

[Jeff Lewis]

So she went to FAO Schwartz and she bought a doll named Debbie.

[Michael Beck]

She named her Debbie. She has gorgeous blonde hair. She's a stunner.

[Jeff Lewis]

So Debbie is. I was told this morning that Debbie is lonely and that Debbie would like a boyfriend.

[Todrick Hall]

Join the club.

[Jeff Lewis]

So she said she would like $50 to go buy a Ken for Debbie. And I said, no. I go, do you have $50 saved at home? I said, you can pay me. I said, I'm willing to lend you the money and you can pay me back when I get home. And then she was kind of stumped by that. And I said, look, I'm gonna give the $50 to Alyssa, her nanny. And I said, if you and I come to. I'm going to radio. If you and I come to terms, you can borrow the $50. So. And then the nanny, you know, so she just texted a picture of her. I think she's at the Tiffany Cafe and. Or somewhere. And she says she's getting the Ken doll. She said she'll pay you back because the Easter Bunny is bringing her money.

[Todrick Hall]

That's my girl. Monroe.

[Jeff Lewis]

I'm sorry. Did we ever discuss that the Easter Bunny's bringing her money?

[Michael Beck]

She's taking a payday loan towards her holiday gift.

[Susan Powder]

Very smart money, very cutesy. She's just assuming she's getting money for Easter because you've set a precedent on St. Patrick's Day. Yes. You're getting her gifts and money for every other holiday, including, she told me, MLK Day, she got a gift so beautiful. She had emeralds on. Last night, she was showing us her bracelets, and she's like, oh, These were my St. Patrick's Day gift. I said, is she Irish?

[Jeff Lewis]

No, I think we're a Little bit Irish in her defense.

[Susan Powder]

Okay, okay.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah, I think we're a little bit Irish. But the reason I bought her is. I told you the reason I bought her a St. Patrick's Day gift is because I do think I was drinking and it's possible and promised her something. I think it could have happened or she just took advantage of me.

[Todrick Hall]

Can you drink? And promise me something, because my birthday is tomorrow. Okay.

[Jeff Lewis]

Happy birthday. Big birthday for you tomorrow.

[Todrick Hall]

Thank you.

[Susan Powder]

I wonder if you were drunk and you promised Annie she didn't have to do any reels.

[Jeff Lewis]

Do you think that's what happened?

[Susan Powder]

That's what happened. That's what happened.

[Todrick Hall]

And she's like, now we're getting somewhere.

[Susan Powder]

Yes.

[Jeff Lewis]

I think at dinner I was like, don't bother taking the order. Just go ahead.

[Todrick Hall]

Just go to the bar. They already had their mom. You're not here to work. History month is over. Pride month is not for a couple of months.

[Jeff Lewis]

They can have dry mouth now. So New York, that is now your home?

[Todrick Hall]

Yes. I just moved into my, like, apartment, which is very, very. I think it's really cute. And the standard is different in New York. There were some, like, little shady queefs in my comments, being like, this apartment looks like a downgrade from your. Your house. But I absolutely.

[Michael Beck]

What I saw was a two bedroom corner unit with wall to wall windows.

[Susan Powder]

And that bedroom was huge. That's a big bedroom, period.

[Todrick Hall]

I'm so happ. I like am in love with this city. I've lived here five times before, but only when I was doing Broadway shows. So this is the first time I'm being like, in the city, unemployed. I'm just like living my life, going to see Broadway musicals, working on my own show. And I might get on my first birthday here tomorrow, which is exciting.

[Jeff Lewis]

So originally you left LA and you went to, I believe, London to do Shrek the musical.

[Todrick Hall]

Is that correct? I went there to do burlesque and then I took the role as Donkey in Shrek. Just to be quite precise, I was the donkey. Yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay. Okay. So you did burlesque, but then when did. There was. There's another one, though that you did. Midnight.

[Todrick Hall]

Midnight. That's my original musical that I started writing. Whenever I was. When I was talking to you all, I would be like, writing that musical.

[Jeff Lewis]

Did you do that in London too?

[Todrick Hall]

I did, yeah. Sold out, baby.

[Jeff Lewis]

So the burlesque. And tell me if I'm correct. I read something you said that it was a very challenging work environment.

[Todrick Hall]

Yes, it was.

[Michael Beck]

How does it compare to Jeff Lewis Live.

[Todrick Hall]

I think I'd rather deal with the challenging work environment of the list.

[Michael Beck]

Was it cast, drama or the audience? Like, what was the vibe?

[Todrick Hall]

I think that it was just like a really hard experience from the top down. Like, usually when a work environment is difficult, it's from the top. And it was just like a very different experience. Yes, it was just a very difficult experience. I was actually on the phone for four and a half hours last night with the writer and creator of Burlesque. And I was speaking to him for the first time in six months. Cause they're bringing the show back to London this year. And I was just like this. It's crazy. You know, I was dating Liam at that time and I thought we were gonna get married. And that show, like, was so stressful that we ended up breaking up like three days before the opening. But we were still in the show together. So we still had to dance and sing and like, see each other and touch each other every single eight shows a week. It was quite the journey.

[Susan Powder]

I was wondering. Cause you guys. Yeah, you guys were like, thick as thieves.

[Todrick Hall]

Yeah, it was. It's a long story, but yeah, we have. You know, I think that, like, I'm a person that requires a certain type of like, love. I want somebody to like, ride for me. And one day, like, really solidified a lot of things for me. First of all, there was a guy that was in the cast that I just felt like he was getting way too close to and it made me uncomfortable. And I never expressed discomfort before. And I was like, I don't like that you're hanging out with this person one on one. Cause I already had history with this guy and another guy I dated. So that didn't make me uncom. That made me uncomfortable. But the main thing was, like, at one point we didn't have costumes for the show and we were gonna have to the next day. So I went on social media and said, I need people to come help me sell costumes until like all. All night. It's going to be from like 10pm until 6am and he was just very like, oh, these people are in our apartment and I don't know how I'm going to sleep. And I'm like, I don't. I'm not expecting you to come out and get some rhinestones and bedazzle a costume. But I need somebody who's going to like, be okay with me doing this for myself. Like, I'm not going to not give myself the best chance to succeed. So I just saw sides of him. That made me sort of be like, I don't know how r. Is this not the gayest breakup ever? I needed him to rhinestone some costumes for me. I said, enough. I've had enough.

[Jeff Lewis]

How old is he?

[Todrick Hall]

20, 31.

[Jeff Lewis]

So, I mean, the problem is a lot of these, you know, 20 year olds and early 30s, they're still kind of in a very selfish space. Right. Trying to figure out their lives. And, you know, maybe you're just a little more evolved and mature.

[Todrick Hall]

Yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

Maybe you need someone closer to your age.

[Todrick Hall]

Yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

Or, you know, 16 years older.

[Todrick Hall]

Yeah. I just, you know, if I had known if you were taking applications, maybe I'll take Annie's job and then I'll be closer to you. We can make some reels that will really get some traction.

[Jeff Lewis]

You know, these numbers up, you know. The issue is, though, you see 12 musicals a week. So my question to you is, how many musicals would I. Because I don't really love them, but I feel like you know which ones I'd like now.

[Todrick Hall]

I do. I know what you like, six.

[Jeff Lewis]

Because it was 80 minutes with no intermission. And there was lots of. I mean, lots of stuff to keep me occupied.

[Todrick Hall]

Yeah, you're a little add, Right. You need something that's like constantly keeping your. If too many ballads, you're out.

[Jeff Lewis]

Correct.

[Todrick Hall]

Yeah, I can tell that about you. You couldn't even make it through Wicked.

[Jeff Lewis]

We left an intermission of Wicked in your.

[Michael Beck]

The second half. Like, who cares? Defying Gravity. That's a finale.

[Susan Powder]

The chills that you get with Defying Gravity. Like, I would have been, like, locked in my seat. I can't believe you would get up and walk out after Defying Gravity.

[Todrick Hall]

Believe it. And Monroe went with you.

[Jeff Lewis]

Well, I need to see it again. Didn't they sing it right before intermission?

[Susan Powder]

That's what I mean.

[Todrick Hall]

No, that's what he means. Like, that would be enough to usually bring people back.

[Jeff Lewis]

I was like, I've heard it. I don't need to come back after intermission. I did like Anne Juliet, though. Was there an intermission on that one?

[Michael Beck]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, there was. Yeah. Cause then he came Romeo comes back right at the end, and that's the cliffhanger.

[Todrick Hall]

Spoiler alert.

[Jeff Lewis]

You said, chess is not for me. Chess is not for me.

[Todrick Hall]

I don't think it's for you just because you don't like all the ballads. There's a lot of ballads. It's like three hours long. I don't know that Chess is for you, but there are some other Shows that I think that you would like. I think that sometimes I feel like. Like I told you, I think you're the gay Grinch. But I feel like your heart could be warmed by the musical. Maybe happy ending. I would love to take you to go see that. Cause it's a very cute show.

[Jeff Lewis]

How long is it?

[Todrick Hall]

And it's 90min. It's 90min. There's no intermission.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay. All right.

[Susan Powder]

This sounds like a date.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah. He's like, no, we're just friends, Michael.

[Susan Powder]

Oh, okay. Okay. Come on.

[Jeff Lewis]

Come on.

[Susan Powder]

Interesting.

[Todrick Hall]

I feel like it's not a no, though. If Shane, like, if Jeff ends up being single again. It's a chance. Would you change your name to Jeff hall, or would I have to be Todrick Lewis? These are the questions that need to be asked.

[Susan Powder]

Hallows.

[Michael Beck]

Maybe a hyphenate.

[Susan Powder]

Yeah.

[Todrick Hall]

Hallelujah.

[Jeff Lewis]

Keep your name. I keep my name.

[Todrick Hall]

Hallelujah.

[Jeff Lewis]

Are you gonna change your name?

[Susan Powder]

I would just keep your names. Cause it's probably gonna end a divorce. So just make it easy. You know what I mean?

[Todrick Hall]

He don't have hope for us.

[Jeff Lewis]

Wow.

[Susan Powder]

I mean, look at poor Annie.

[Jeff Lewis]

You know, I did reach. You know, it's interesting how you write future man requirements.

[Michael Beck]

How many do you do? Check how many boxes.

[Todrick Hall]

Wait, you. Is that my post?

[Michael Beck]

Of course this is your post.

[Jeff Lewis]

I printed it out.

[Todrick Hall]

Oh, my God, I did.

[Jeff Lewis]

Because I considered applying. But then it says, first of all, you want someone who's. You're aligned morally and ethically.

[Todrick Hall]

That's a big chop for you. I couldn't even get a water today.

[Jeff Lewis]

Must love.

[Susan Powder]

Okay.

[Jeff Lewis]

I could learn to love some of it. Must be empathetic and try to understand the black experience if they're not black.

[Susan Powder]

I think you are very empathetic and you've been trying.

[Michael Beck]

I think he wants. He wants the black experience.

[Todrick Hall]

Yes, he does. But not that long.

[Jeff Lewis]

Must want children. I'd literally have four kids. I think I'm. I don't think. I think I'm.

[Todrick Hall]

Can you imagine Monroe with, like, a

[Michael Beck]

little, like, caramel black brother?

[Todrick Hall]

Yes.

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh, God.

[Michael Beck]

It would be, like, shameless.

[Jeff Lewis]

Get ready, Jameson. A connection to wizard of Oz and Disney is a massive plus.

[Todrick Hall]

Wait, you don't like Disney?

[Jeff Lewis]

Jeff, I don't do drugs or really drink. Doesn't have to be sober. But it can't be part of your identity.

[Michael Beck]

Oh,

[Susan Powder]

That's literally your whole identity.

[Michael Beck]

I can't hear the bells.

[Jeff Lewis]

I like number one, too. A big booty is my weakness. Just saying.

[Todrick Hall]

Period.

[Michael Beck]

Okay, finally.

[Susan Powder]

Does it have to be Real.

[Jeff Lewis]

I need some. Oh, here we go. I need someone with stamina.

[Todrick Hall]

Yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

Who is willing to roll up their sleeves and get their hands.

[Todrick Hall]

Who do I think I am with this list? By the way, I posted this with my chest too, and I didn't take it down.

[Jeff Lewis]

Self awareness. Nothing is worse than someone who can't read the room.

[Susan Powder]

Oh, yeah. It's a no.

[Jeff Lewis]

I don't think so.

[Susan Powder]

This isn't gonna work. Keep on looking, baby. Okay.

[Jeff Lewis]

But honestly, I liked you and Liam together, you know, at the time. You seem to be very happy. I'm sorry about that.

[Todrick Hall]

I think that he is genuinely not just saying this because I have a microphone in my mouth, but he's a lovely person. And I just. You know, I think sometimes when you're in a relationship, you really want somebody. I think, like, because so many of us as gay men were taught how to be gay from watching, like, can we say porn on the radio, you know, like, we didn't get to watch, like, the Notebook and all these movies that teach you what a gay relationship should look like. So we all have been trying to figure it out by ourselves. And I think that when now I'm like, I need somebody who is gonna, like, be willing to get their hands dirty with me when things get really, really rough. Like, I want somebody who's gonna show up in a massive way when things aren't great because the honeymoon phase lasts for five seconds, and that is what I would really like.

[Susan Powder]

It's partnership.

[Todrick Hall]

Yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

When you were talking about how Liam was getting close to someone in the cast, were there trust issues between you two? Is it because of all the traveling and the long distance?

[Todrick Hall]

No, that's the thing. Even when I said it to him, he was like, you've never asked me to do that before. And I didn't say don't hang out with them, but I just don't want them to be hanging out one on one because I had already had history with this person, had already slept with one of my ex boyfriends behind my back and lied about it. So. And I was really forgiving and still hired this person to be in the show. But then at a certain point, I was like, I don't feel comfortable. I don't trust this person, and I don't really want them to be in close proximity to my boyfriend one on one when I'm not around. Just go with other people. Yeah, I didn't like that. You know, it was just. It was just too much. And I feel like if you are in a relationship and that person is like, he doesn't know this person. And it's not in my nature. I would be like, go hang out. Go spend the night with your ex boyfriend. I don't care. But if I express discomfort, it should just be immediate chop. Like there should be some sort of loyalty there. There wasn't. So I did not f with that.

[Jeff Lewis]

Interesting. So for whatever reason, he. He felt that relationship was important enough to hold onto.

[Todrick Hall]

I think it was just like a

[Jeff Lewis]

stubbornness at the detriment of yours.

[Todrick Hall]

Yeah. And at that point I was like, I have to be a priority. And I had done so much to like, get him there. I cast him in the show like he was in the musical, got him a job and negotiated his contract for him. And I like, I'm not asking for the world. So if you can't do this, it's not meant to be. And it's devastating to me, like being here in this city, like, and moving into an apartment and going to see all these shows. Like Liam and I saw like 160 something musicals together. Try not to throw up. And. And so can you do the throw up?

[Jeff Lewis]

The throw up sound? Please continue.

[Susan Powder]

But at least you saw it before you got married, right? I know you were close to getting married. I was. At least you saw that.

[Todrick Hall]

I actually asked the producers if I could propose to him on opening night and they were no.

[Susan Powder]

I'm so glad they said you a favorite.

[Todrick Hall]

They did me a favor. Yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

Now, speaking of trust issues, are you not at all concerned? So you're, you know, you're here in New York and Austin is. He's home in la. Does he still text with the waiter at Tam o'? Shanter's?

[Susan Powder]

No, not anymore.

[Jeff Lewis]

You should tell Todrick what happened.

[Susan Powder]

Yeah. He actually blocked the waiter at Tam o' Shanter's because the waiter kept following up. We went to like a Christmas dinner at Tam o'. Shanter's. And where's that at? Pasadena? Silver Lake. Silver Lake? Yeah. And we were propositioned for a threesome by the waiter.

[Todrick Hall]

Well, that's beautiful.

[Susan Powder]

Yeah. And Austin's just very, very sweet and very nice. And he was just a little naive to the fact that this guy was flirting and so a number was exchanged and then.

[Todrick Hall]

Was he naive?

[Susan Powder]

No, he. If you knew him, you would know.

[Jeff Lewis]

He's like, I think I catch the attention. And we know you do.

[Todrick Hall]

Well, but are you guys, like open?

[Susan Powder]

No.

[Todrick Hall]

A little bit?

[Susan Powder]

No, not at all.

[Todrick Hall]

Because I just think we gotta talk about that. That's like the thing. If you don't want to be in a boy band. If you don't want to be polyamorous and have 16 boyfriends, it's like, you might as well give up on having a relationship.

[Susan Powder]

This. Austin's the first guy. I tend. I'm a cancer. I tend to be a tiny bit jealous in relationships, but Austin is the first guy that I've ever dated in my whole life that I just feel completely at ease. Zero jealousy, zero insecurity. Like, I just completely trust him.

[Jeff Lewis]

That said, you blocked the waiter at Tam o'. Shanter's. You had to block him.

[Susan Powder]

He blocked him because the waiter was making us uncomfortable.

[Michael Beck]

I love how you just put that on to office.

[Jeff Lewis]

Now, Jameson, you never heard. So Jameson obviously heard about this, and so he took his boyfriend to Tam o', Shanter's, and the waiter had no interest.

[Todrick Hall]

Racism.

[Jeff Lewis]

No. I don't think we ever got to actually see that waiter because. Because he asked to go to another table. Every waiter that came over was not someone we imagined Michael sleeping with or Austin sleeping with. It was all. So we giggled every time someone came over. Like, could this be them? So I just don't think we ever got the waiter. Actually.

[Todrick Hall]

Wait, would you have done. Would you. Are you and your boyfriend open?

[Jeff Lewis]

No, we're not, but they would have liked. I don't think there's anything wrong with people who are.

[Todrick Hall]

No, I don't think that there is anything wrong either, but I just am like, is that the new requirement?

[Susan Powder]

Have you done open relationships?

[Todrick Hall]

I've never done it. Have you?

[Jeff Lewis]

I don't think it's a requirement.

[Todrick Hall]

It feels like it's becoming a requirement. I mean, I'm the only single person in the room now.

[Jeff Lewis]

Because you're not going. You're not going old enough. That's your problem. Truly. You're going.

[Todrick Hall]

I go on the Atlantis cruise where there's a bunch of senior citizens, and they're all open.

[Susan Powder]

Okay. Atlantis cruise is not the place.

[Todrick Hall]

It's crazy. I told you that. I took my mom on a gay cruise, and she asked me if she was a top or bottom. That's what I was having to deal with. I'm like, oh, Lord.

[Susan Powder]

You knew what you were signing up for with that, though. That's crazy.

[Jeff Lewis]

Now, when you go to all of these musicals, are you actually. Are you scouting for talent? Like, as I know. Obviously, you write your own.

[Todrick Hall]

Yes.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah. You write your own plays. You write your own musicals.

[Todrick Hall]

I like to see people in their natural habitat. I want to see, like, what someone does, because sometimes people come in for an audition and they don't. It's not. You don't see, like, the spark. But sometimes when you see someone in the situation on stage, you're like, oh, my God, I would love to work with that person. I'd love to write a song for that person. So, yeah. But I just love musical theater. I think that we live in a world of TikTok and stuff where people need things to last for. And I love that people are forced to, like, turn their phones off, be engaged, and there's not that many forms of entertainment that do that now. So I think performers are the hardest working people ever on Broadway. Like Meg, Thee Stallion just opened in Moulin Rouge. I went to go see her and then she had to call out for a few shows. Cause she was exhausted and she was telling people in the cast, she was like, this is the. You are the hardest working people in the industry to do eight shows a week, two and a half hours, singing, dancing, acting, keeping your body, your voice in shape.

[Susan Powder]

And she stopped in the middle of the show.

[Todrick Hall]

Yeah, middle of the show.

[Susan Powder]

End the show in the middle of it. Because she got, like, sick and had to go to the hospital because.

[Jeff Lewis]

How many shows a week is she doing?

[Todrick Hall]

Eight.

[Jeff Lewis]

Eight shows.

[Todrick Hall]

Eight shows.

[Jeff Lewis]

And they're what, like two and a half hours?

[Todrick Hall]

Two and a half hours, yeah. Can you think of anything worse?

[Susan Powder]

I mean, you do 10 hours here right now.

[Jeff Lewis]

I can. I will say, though, when I was watching, I kept watching Monroe's face and she was just lit. She loved it. She loved every minute of it. And for me, that was really rewarding. I mean, I. I do get antsy and. But I think as far as musicals go, I think. And Juliet and Six kind of kept my attention totally.

[Susan Powder]

What about Titanic? You think he'd like it?

[Todrick Hall]

I think you would, because it's funny. It's 90 minutes. It's like in the same wheelhouse of all those other shows that he was describing.

[Susan Powder]

Super gay.

[Todrick Hall]

Yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

Gary New Hampshire. Saw you in London in line four. Hi, Gary.

[Caller Susie]

Hey. I love Todrick so much. I just.

[Todrick Hall]

Thank you.

[Caller Susie]

I love that you're on Instagram talking about the 16 bags that you needed to help have help moving in. You just keep it very real. And then on the other side of it, I don't think anybody knows the incredible genius you are and Ayanna George. And that song is something that I can't recover from.

[Todrick Hall]

Oh, thank you. Thank you so much.

[Jeff Lewis]

That's very sweet.

[Caller Susie]

Gary, are you extending it or bringing it to the States or the you just trusting the universe.

[Todrick Hall]

I moved to New York because my dream is to get that show on Broadway and I got such great feedback in London and we sold out all of the shows and now it's like my soul life's mission to get that show to Broadway. And it's really, really hard to get shows on Broadway to raise the money and to theater and to just find the time slot. So I packed all 16 of those bags and I moved here. And I have been sharing every part of my journey on Instagram because I'm rebuilding. You know, I had a career in la. I gave up being on TV and doing reality shows for the time being and moved here. And theater doesn't pay anything. So I'm like living, you know, this like humble life in New York and in London. But I'm the happiest I've ever been. I wish that I was dating somebody, but I, you know, I am very, very happy to be doing the show and I think the right person will come and that means the world to me that you saw the show and you heard the music and I hope you get to make it to the show when it comes to New York. Cause I think now I'm in a place where I'm like, my imposter syndrome is gone. I'm like, it's a matter of if not. I mean, it's a matter of when, not if. Now.

[Jeff Lewis]

Thank you, Gary. Now you said you've given up reality tv. Is that because you worked with Joey Zauczig? No, because I'm probably gonna give up reality TV after working with Joey Zauczyk.

[Susan Powder]

Well, he's definitely giving up.

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[Jeff Lewis]

and then finally, we are live Friday from Las Vegas with Susan Powder. Michael Beck. Again.

[Susan Powder]

Oh, God. Again?

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah.

[Susan Powder]

Oh, my God.

[Jeff Lewis]

And then I think Liz Roman is gonna come on, too.

[Susan Powder]

Really? Oh, that'll be fun. She's gonna be hungover.

[Jeff Lewis]

She will be very hungover. Yeah.

[Susan Powder]

Wow.

[Jeff Lewis]

But she gets her work done.

[Susan Powder]

She does.

[Jeff Lewis]

That's the difference.

[Susan Powder]

She does.

[Todrick Hall]

Wow. Shots fired. Again, if you stay petty, you ain't gotta get petty.

[Jeff Lewis]

Now, speaking of challenging work environments, do you have nice things to say about working with me?

[Susan Powder]

Actually, people have been asking me lately, and this was one of my favorite shows to do in a long time. I think we had a lie detector.

[Jeff Lewis]

Please.

[Susan Powder]

No. I mean, you are a pain.

[Jeff Lewis]

Lie detector.

[Todrick Hall]

Determined. That was a lie.

[Susan Powder]

You are a pain in the ass. But to be honest, your schedule's amazing. Cause most shows shoot like six days a week. And you get, you know, they're 12 hour days. Jeff's like, I shoot Monday through Friday for three hours a day. And, you know, we're home by five. So it's a pretty easy schedule.

[Jeff Lewis]

Well, I'm juggling other things like the radio show and.

[Todrick Hall]

Right.

[Jeff Lewis]

Parenting a man. Yeah. So. What do you mean?

[Caller Susie]

Yeah?

[Jeff Lewis]

I mean, it's two weeks, a month. It's a long two weeks.

[Susan Powder]

Must be exhausted.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah. But you and I, we had a few. We have had a few confrontations slash arguments, but we diffuse it pretty quickly. I respect you, and so I do listen to you. And so I come around pretty quickly with you.

[Susan Powder]

Yeah. I think we have a mutual respect for each other. And I think when we have a disagreement, we usually talk it out. And I think you've also changed. You're not like, you know, just flying off the handle like you used to. I think people are gonna be kind of surprised by that because you are more rational. You take time to, like, really think things through before you react, which was very interesting to me.

[Todrick Hall]

He has a heart. That's so cute. Look at his smile.

[Susan Powder]

He's draw three sizes. He's growing.

[Todrick Hall]

He's growing three sizes

[Susan Powder]

now.

[Jeff Lewis]

There was something that you said that I thought was funny. Todrick. You said the 2026 motto is being unfuck withable. Unfuckable.

[Todrick Hall]

Unfuck witable. You can take that fuck h off of it. The H is silent. Unfuck.

[Jeff Lewis]

Wittable.

[Todrick Hall]

Yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

Okay, explain. Did you get fucked with last year? Is that the problem?

[Todrick Hall]

I feel like I'm always getting fucked with, like, with the Internet, with boys, with, you know, sometimes people in my family. And now I'm just sort of like at this place where I'm like, I'm gonna try to be nice and be kind, but I'm not letting people fuck with me. It means, like, be so undeniable at what you do that nobody can, like, take it away, you know? Cause sometimes I'm like, why am I not getting here? Why am I not getting in this door? I think we all as human beings sometimes feel undervalued. Like we're doing all this work and you know, your boss sends you away and makes you like, make reels in the middle of the day when he doesn't appreciate your lie detector.

[Jeff Lewis]

Determined, you're telling.

[Todrick Hall]

But people.

[Susan Powder]

People come for you hard. Why do you think that is?

[Todrick Hall]

I think. I genuinely think there's a lot of things. I do think that people have, like, biases about certain people who look certain ways. If you hear someone did something, I think you'll believe that. But I've also just taken a bunch of massive, massive swings. Like, I'm unapologetic about the fact that I'm here chasing my dreams. If I want to do something, I put myself out there. That is like, sort of like not a quality that a lot of people respect, but some people do. And usually the people who have a problem with me are not people like Jeff, who has had to like, get his hands dirty, run his own business. He knows what it means to. To like, put yourself out there, to like, see people, watch you do something in a massive way and sometimes fail and not be successful. And. And I think a lot of people are defined by those failures. And I feel like that that's why I admire you. Cause you get back up and you. You live your life so unapologetically. And I think that's why people like, even who would in a normal situation, I'm sure you. You have a lot of people who are quite conservative that watch this show that theoretically might not think that they would fall in love with a gay man and his gaggle of gays on the show. But I think you, you speak to people's humanity and you're like, so real and raw and like you share when going through a divorce and all of the things that you've gone through is really difficult thing to do and people would shield it, but people fuck with you because you're so real and raw and unfuck widditable.

[Jeff Lewis]

Thank you. I would say my least successful years are the years that I am too nice. I feel like unfortunately, people do mistake kindness for weakness. And unfortunately, in this world, you kind of have to be a little bit of a bitch to get what you. What, you know, what you need done. And so you've. You've seen me fight with. I mean, even just Bravo and the production company and all of that. I mean, we're good now, but you have to very much push back very much. Otherwise you'd get. And you know, it's an example. Bravo's just an example. Everybody. Sirius xm, anybody? You know what I mean? You unfortunately sometimes have to be an asshole. I don't want to be. I mean, I'd love to just be nice and not have any sort of confrontations or pushbacks or threats or any of that, but you just, you kind of have to do it.

[Todrick Hall]

Now.

[Jeff Lewis]

I'm going to tell you, something did trigger me, which made me very defensive of you, is that I saw the video of your new apartment. Now your new apartment is basically a white box right now, right? You just moved in, you haven't decorated it. It's a two bedroom. Is it a two bath? Yeah, two bedroom, two bath in prime Manhattan. And then people were kind of like, I saw a couple shady comments and I thought, you idiots. Do you realize that he has to grow, gross 20,000amonth to then pay taxes to then have enough money to pay that rent? Yeah, that's not a loser by any means. And I just, it makes me defensive. Like, you know, these people are probably sitting in their $90,000 homes in Ohio and like, you know, coming from you, but you know what I mean, it's very different. It's very different. Like they don't understand the value of what it costs to have that little cramped two bedroom, two bath apartment in New York.

[Susan Powder]

But some people are just haters. Some people hate for the sake of hating. And we've seen it, obviously, we see it in the comments, we see it with our shows and stuff, but people

[Jeff Lewis]

just not love, not at my show.

[Susan Powder]

Listen, it's valid for your show.

[Todrick Hall]

I, I'm really, really like two years ago I was so like wrapped up in my whole LA Persona and I fought and fought and fought for this house that was like way too expensive for me to have. And at a certain point I was like, am I going to kill myself and keep doing reality shows that I don't want to do to keep up this house? For what reason? With Madam Zazig?

[Susan Powder]

That was a sick house. That was a big house.

[Todrick Hall]

I love that house. It's hard for me. Even when I was in LA this past week, it feels like a failure for me to not have been able to upkeep that house. And I know so many people have felt like that. I felt like I'm gonna have to explain to all these people why I'm not gonna be able to afford this house anymore. And then at a certain point I just said, fuck it. I am so much happier playing the donkey in Shrek the musical in the uk. I felt like, so at home when I got back into musical theater. Cause I love it so much. We're gonna work on.

[Jeff Lewis]

But I've gone to two already this year.

[Todrick Hall]

Yeah. Did you make it to the end of them? Oh, they didn't have intermissions.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah.

[Todrick Hall]

Okay, good.

[Jeff Lewis]

I couldn't leave. You were trapped.

[1-800-Flowers Announcer (Alternate)]

I wanted to.

[Jeff Lewis]

I do have something to ask you. Cause I'm a little concerned.

[Michael Beck]

Okay.

[Jeff Lewis]

When you moved out of your home, did you put things in storage?

[Todrick Hall]

I did soft goods.

[Jeff Lewis]

Where? Where?

[Todrick Hall]

I don't know. It's one of those big storage units where they lift it up and they. I didn't actually find it. My business manager did. I couldn't even move out. Who even knows if it's. If it's really. Because I was so devastated that I was like, my cousin, who was also my assistant, helped move it in there. And they're in these big storage tanks.

[Jeff Lewis]

Rats.

[Todrick Hall]

But they're lifted up, right?

[Jeff Lewis]

Rats. They can get in. No, there's. I guarantee it's infested with rats.

[Todrick Hall]

It's not infested with.

[Jeff Lewis]

I don't want to. I don't want to upset you, but it is.

[Todrick Hall]

Jeff, stop this right now.

[Jeff Lewis]

No, seriously. We had rats in our storage unit.

[Michael Beck]

We had rats.

[Jeff Lewis]

And what do you want with a brand new dishwasher? What are you doing? Rats. And they were. I mean, they burrowed in our rugs. We had to get rid of all the rugs that. Do you have rugs in there?

[Todrick Hall]

I don't think so. But I do have my wicked costumes in there. That's all I can do.

[Jeff Lewis]

They're full of rats.

[Todrick Hall]

Don't do this.

[Jeff Lewis]

Rats love wicked costumes.

[Todrick Hall]

Jeff, stop this right now. You're making my heart.

[Jeff Lewis]

Didn't they go for my wicked costume?

[Michael Beck]

All of them? I hate this.

[Todrick Hall]

My heart just dropped. I was like, what?

[Jeff Lewis]

How long. How long have your things been in storage? I'm just trying to count all the rats.

[Todrick Hall]

Stop.

[Jeff Lewis]

Seriously, how long?

[Todrick Hall]

A year and a half guys to our list.

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh, they've had so many babies in those wicked costumes.

[Todrick Hall]

Don't do this.

[Jeff Lewis]

No, really, truly. There's rats.

[Todrick Hall]

This is homophobic behavior once again.

[Susan Powder]

What are you talking about? Don't do this.

[Jeff Lewis]

Rats love gays. They loved my unit, my storage unit.

[Michael Beck]

I do feel safer about that. If it's like. If it's one of those, like, cargo crates or something and it's up in storage. Yours was a ground floor unit.

[Jeff Lewis]

Where do you think? Do you think it's just. They suspend it with chains. It's Sitting on the ground somewhere. The rats have got into the wicked costume. What else do you have in there? Do you have other clothes?

[Todrick Hall]

Yeah, all my clothes. I only took, like, rehearsal clothes with me, and then I thought I was gonna be coming back, and then I didn't come back, so don't.

[Jeff Lewis]

Do you know that they were in every storage unit? Todrick?

[Susan Powder]

I went to Graceland recently and did, like, a tour, and they were, like, cataloging clothes, and they had told me that when Lisa Marie Presley died, she had 95 storage units in Calabasas that they had to empty out and bring to Griffin. Graceland. Do you know how many rats were in those storage units?

[Jeff Lewis]

Not as many as Todrick's.

[Todrick Hall]

You guys, I think we should have one storage unit.

[Jeff Lewis]

Or you have more than one?

[Todrick Hall]

I have three. Three times the rest. Oh, my gosh. Now I'm really worried, and I'm. I'm in New York. Can you. If I give you the key, will

[Jeff Lewis]

you go there and look? It's too dangerous.

[Todrick Hall]

You keep saying you want to be close friends. Like you.

[Jeff Lewis]

I actually was thinking about that when you had that house, we were neighbors. I walked by your house every single day. I wish we were friends then.

[Todrick Hall]

Well, we are friends now. And now I'm back in the country, so every time you come to New York, I'd love to be on the show.

[Michael Beck]

We just got a rail from Annie.

[Todrick Hall]

Oh, wow.

[Jeff Lewis]

Oh, the rails are coming in.

[Michael Beck]

She's cutting quick.

[Todrick Hall]

I hate this. I hate it here.

[Michael Beck]

So much. Feed for storage.

[Susan Powder]

Oh, my God.

[Todrick Hall]

Y' all are the shadiest queens I've ever met in my entire life.

[Jeff Lewis]

You didn't put. There's no food in the storage unit, right?

[Todrick Hall]

No. Okay, no food.

[Jeff Lewis]

All right, now the. Did I hear that when you landed in New York City, you went right to Chick Fil a? We love Chick Fil A. I did.

[Todrick Hall]

I feel like I'm such a bad gay, but those waffle fries got a. Got me in a choke cold. I cannot do it. And I'm like, I gotta be there. They're gay.

[Susan Powder]

They're so good.

[Todrick Hall]

Is that. Does that make us a bad gay? If we go to Chick fil A?

[Susan Powder]

If we didn't go to places that hated the gays, we would have nowhere to go. So just go. You know what I mean?

[Jeff Lewis]

We wouldn't be able to come to the studio. Sorry, Shakira, I'm not including you. Yeah, it was Annie that didn't take your order this morning.

[Susan Powder]

Homophobia.

[Jeff Lewis]

I'm really sorry about that, Todrick.

[Todrick Hall]

It's okay. I forgive you, Annie. It's a hard knock life.

[Susan Powder]

Jeff kind of fosters a homophobic environment, though, because he doesn't really like the gays either.

[Todrick Hall]

You don't?

[Susan Powder]

No.

[Jeff Lewis]

I do love chick fil a, though.

[Susan Powder]

Exactly my point.

[Jeff Lewis]

The Sunjoy tea is delicious. Have you done the Sunjoy tea yet?

[Todrick Hall]

No.

[Michael Beck]

You needed to wash down those fries.

[Todrick Hall]

I like to get the lemonade. The lemonade is, like, the best.

[Jeff Lewis]

No, you're missing the Sunjoy tea.

[Michael Beck]

They add the sweet tea to the lemonade.

[Susan Powder]

The diet lemonade. Have you had that?

[Michael Beck]

Of course. Why would I have.

[Susan Powder]

Oh, it's so good.

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It's good.

[Todrick Hall]

It's so good.

[Jeff Lewis]

Why would you do diet lemonade?

[Susan Powder]

Because it's just so full of sugar. So you're doing like, I'm watching my figure.

[Jeff Lewis]

You're doing three chicken sandwiches, two waffle fries, and a diet lemonade.

[Susan Powder]

Okay, you got to cut somewhere.

[Jeff Lewis]

Let's take Susie in New York. Line two. Hi, Susie.

[Caller Susie]

Hi, Jeff.

[K]

I was just calling to defend Annie a little bit. I just wanted to see, did you give her her expectations before she arrived to New York on how many reels that she was supposed to make?

[Jeff Lewis]

We've, you know, we've had many talks, and there was a little bit of a hiccup. Not the last trip to New York, but the time where she was reprimanded for this exact same thing. So I. I guess I just assumed we didn't need to go over it again. Susie.

[Michael Beck]

And the expectations are the same in New York and in la, where you get everyone's coffee orders, you bring that to the studio, you film the shows, and then you cut a clip. I mean, it's one clip a day. That's the bare minimum.

[Caller Susie]

Which, yeah, finish her coffee orders, I

[K]

understand, but the reals, I was just unsure if you set that expectation. And I also think sometimes people that work for you, they get wrapped up in, like, the fun and hanging out, and they think they're more. More your friend than your employer. So I think sometimes it's good to set expectations again.

[Jeff Lewis]

But, Susie, we're traveling. We're traveling with three other employees, all of which everyone understands the job descriptions and their expectations. And so, like, even last night when we, you know, we went out to dinner as a family, we came back, Annie disappeared, went to the bar with Michael, and then, you know, I had Kian and Shane sitting at the dining room table. One working, like, working on the show, like, doing interviews and writing notes for the day and all of those things. So I Feel like the. The other employees that are on this trip understand the assignment.

[Susan Powder]

And to be honest, I didn't feel bad about Annie going to the bar last night because I thought. I didn't know that she didn't have her work done. So to come here today and to hear that she didn't do her work, that's when it doesn't feel right.

[Jeff Lewis]

Yeah. I just don't know. You know, we're getting to a point where I don't know how many more conversations I can have. Susie.

[K]

I know. All right. Just give her one more chance, though.

[Caller Susie]

She.

[Jeff Lewis]

You know, we've had a few chances already, Susie, and there's. There's a, you know, point in time where we just gotta cut the cord. Anyway, have a good weekend.

[Caller Susie]

All right.

[Todrick Hall]

Thanks for calling, Susie.

[Susan Powder]

Have a good one.

[Todrick Hall]

Take care.

[Caller Susie]

Bye.

[Jeff Lewis]

You. Congratulations, Michael. You won a GLAD Award.

[Susan Powder]

Thank you.

[Jeff Lewis]

For outstanding reality program, Southern Hospitality.

[Todrick Hall]

Yep.

[Michael Beck]

Can you submit us for that?

[Susan Powder]

Yeah. It's a no. They're definitely not giving.

[Jeff Lewis]

I'll bring the Chick Fil A. Yeah.

[Susan Powder]

No, no. I went to the GLAAD Awards with you once, and it was. That was scary.

[Todrick Hall]

Why? Why?

[Jeff Lewis]

What happened?

[Susan Powder]

Because the gays don't like you either.

[Todrick Hall]

They don't like you.

[Susan Powder]

They were like, why is he here?

[Jeff Lewis]

The lesbians love me.

[Todrick Hall]

Oh, my gosh.

[Jeff Lewis]

But the gays don't.

[Todrick Hall]

I find you to be very likable. But I was terrified to come in here the first time I saw you. I was like, he is going to be. Be evil. But you're actually really nice.

[Jeff Lewis]

Thank you.

[Todrick Hall]

Yeah.

[Jeff Lewis]

I mean, I'm nice to you.

[Todrick Hall]

Yeah. I've never actually seen you be rude to anybody ever, until this morning.

[Michael Beck]

It was the first time.

[Jeff Lewis]

I don't know if that was rude. I think it was just setting boundaries. Right. This is what I'm expecting.

[Todrick Hall]

You are the gay Miranda Priestley. It was just like a little level of that. Would you like. That was like that. I was not expecting.

[Jeff Lewis]

It was matter of a fact. It was a matter of fact. I said, are. I said, are the cameras. Are they set up? She said, yes.

[Todrick Hall]

And you said, take them down, please.

[Jeff Lewis]

Break them down and go back to the hotel and cut reels. Because my feeling is, what are we getting all this footage if you're not cutting reels? It's a. It seems like a big waste of time. So I said, I expect a reel by 3pm today.

[Todrick Hall]

But you said it in the tone like. And Annie, if you don't have the unprinted manuscript of the Harry Potter Book, don't bother coming in. That's all. That was the tone of it.

[Susan Powder]

What did. Wait. My favorite was. You said she was like, are the cameras set up? Well, take them down.

[Todrick Hall]

Yes. The trick bag of the question.

[Susan Powder]

Yes, that's all.

[Jeff Lewis]

Now you arrived to. Was it JFK with 14 bags? 16 bags.

[Todrick Hall]

16 bags, 16 suitcases.

[Michael Beck]

Can you even do that?

[Todrick Hall]

Yes, but it was really expensive.

[Jeff Lewis]

Guarantee there's rats in there, too.

[Todrick Hall]

Stop.

[Jeff Lewis]

What does that cost you Bags?

[Todrick Hall]

Well, it should cost a lot, but I had. There was a sister at the. At the. At the booth. And so just for, you know, we.

[Jeff Lewis]

We.

[Todrick Hall]

There's like a black coat. You know, like, I looked at her in a certain type of way, and she felt that Wakanda energy, and she. And she just, like, swiped them on through or.

[Jeff Lewis]

You didn't have to pay for those.

[Todrick Hall]

I did pay, but I paid about, like 400 or $800. That should have cost me, like, thousands of dollars.

[Michael Beck]

I love her.

[Todrick Hall]

So shout out to my girl.

[Jeff Lewis]

It's great to be Todrick Hall. Yeah, people, just checking your bag.

[Michael Beck]

Extra.

[Todrick Hall]

She would have charged Jeff extra. She said this is reparations. You pay a triple.

[Jeff Lewis]

By the way, if any of you need a good foot rub while you're here in New York. I paid my nanny 150 bucks last night. One of the best. One of the best foot massages I've ever had.

[Susan Powder]

I can't hear it.

[Jeff Lewis]

One of the best foot massages.

[Susan Powder]

The fact that your staff is massaging you is a whole mess that I just can't even get into. That's a. Which are issues.

[Jeff Lewis]

Didn't you just get a massage?

[Susan Powder]

Yeah, I did.

[Todrick Hall]

From who? Where?

[Michael Beck]

Why?

[Susan Powder]

I got a gift certificate from an executive for a massage, so I used it yesterday. I don't know what the fuck happened. I was face down with my head in that little hole, about to fall asleep, and this lady is rubbing my back. She touched something on my back. Threw up. Threw up through the hole on the ground.

[Jeff Lewis]

Thanks for listening. If you want more of this, listen to Jeff Lewis Live every weekday on Sirius xm, as well as the Jeff Lewis Channel, exclusively on the Sirius XM app.

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[Todrick Hall]

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