Podcast Summary: Jeff Lewis Has Issues

Episode: Tom Arnold & Jennifer Fessler: Termination & Sex Rooms
Date: October 22, 2025
Host: Jeff Lewis (SiriusXM)
Guests: Tom Arnold, Jennifer Fessler

Overview

In this candid and unfiltered episode, Jeff Lewis brings together comedian Tom Arnold and The Real Housewives of New Jersey’s Jennifer Fessler for a raucous, irreverent conversation covering everything from professional setbacks (and firings), to sex room design for the ultra-wealthy, relationship mishaps, and the realities of working in showbiz and reality TV. The tone is quick, self-deprecating, and punctuated with digs, laughter, and real talk about marriage, divorce, aging, friendship, and wild career pivots.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Jennifer Fessler’s Recent Termination

(04:12–15:34)

• Jennifer’s Job Loss: Jennifer describes being fired as the American Dream Mall ambassador, largely due to her lack of basic knowledge about the place—something the show had lampooned multiple times.

  • “She doesn’t know shit about it… we try to promote it for her. She doesn’t have any of the information. She phones it in.” – Jeff (04:25)
  • Jennifer admits she “didn’t do much,” which Tom finds perfectly reasonable: “You put your name and your face out there. That’s enough.” (05:57)
  • The group riffs on possible future “mall ambassador” gigs for Jennifer—smaller strip malls, massage parlors, anywhere with less pressure.

• Blame Game: Jeff and Jennifer go back and forth, with Jennifer blaming Jeff’s on-air teasing for getting her fired. Jeff calls it “their loss.”

• Owning Your Story: Jennifer emphasizes the value of preemptively sharing your own “dirty laundry” to take away power from detractors.

  • “I was fucking smart and I was like, I’m gonna tell you every dirty detail before you tell me…My husband and I were separated for a year and a half. We had affairs. Sorry.” – Jennifer (15:46)

2. Tom Arnold’s Marriages, Divorce War Stories & Dating Life

(02:30–03:14, 16:00–18:22)

• Four Divorces & Counting: Tom jokes about the cost—“It cost me a million dollars a kid,” and shares he's been in court for eight years with his fourth ex-wife.
  • “If you have four ex-wives, you go, oh my God, it’s me. And it is me.” – Tom (03:04)
• Dating & Reflection: Tom laments not dating for eight years, but still enjoys the bachelor life and tells stories of odd “dates,” including an awkward tea with “Dr. Donna.”
• On Divorce: Tom and Jeff discuss how divorce reveals entirely new (often negative) sides of your partner, “You see a whole nother side of someone in divorce, and you don’t even recognize them.” – Jeff (16:16)

3. The Real Housewives, Reality Fame, and Being a Friend-Of

(16:30–18:14, 18:28–19:03)

• Housewives Experience: Jennifer recounts her stint as a “friend” on RHONJ, saying she wasn't fired but is unsure if she’ll return, and that not all cast members liked her.
• BravoCon & Reality Gossip: Panel discusses Jennifer’s upcoming attendance at BravoCon, how these conventions work, and the high drama inherent to the Real Housewives franchise.

4. Sex Rooms: Rich People, Wild Requests, and Design Details

(45:38–49:24)

• Sex Room Specialist: Jeff reports on a fan dinner with an interior designer who specializes in “sex rooms” for wealthy couples. Tom and Jennifer are fascinated.
• Crazy Installations: Everything from St. Andrew’s Crosses, spanking benches, Czech glory holes, swings, special mirrors, ventilated floors for easy clean-up, and first aid kits are discussed.
  • “The flooring, she said, is because clean up the jizz.” – Jeff (47:22)
• Client Secrecy: Wealthy (and often well-known) couples have contractors and designers sign NDAs so no details leak.
• Panel’s Take: Tom jokes about bringing in “homeless guys” for variety and riffs on how men, unlike women, can't resist bragging about these rooms to their friends.

5. Sex, Aging, and Body Talk

(12:35–14:26, 21:05–21:48)

• Getting Older: There’s open talk about aging, height insecurity (lifts in shoes), “gout dick,” and cosmetic tweaks (“You took care of your face… your hands, you might not want to show them…” – Tom, 21:01)

  • Jennifer jokes about celebrity beauty treatments.

• Bathroom Habits: Tom and Jeff swap stories about bladder infections, constant urination, and the need to pee after sex to avoid UTIs, veering into hilariously TMI territory.

6. Social Media, Porn, and Tom’s Twitter Preferences

(34:44–36:32)

• Tom’s Porn Habits: Tom shares, unabashedly, that Twitter is his favorite place for lesbian porn—specifically a certain curated account.
  • “There’s a thing on Twitter … all women just going down on each…they’re so gentle. And there’s no penises, yeah.” – Tom (35:08)
  • The group teases Tom for relying on Twitter and not knowing every porn site is now free.

7. Careers, Comedy, and Life Pivoting

(37:39–44:55)

• Tom on the Road: Tom and opener Max discuss touring—hitting 50 cities, running DIY standup comedy gigs, and sharing horror stories (Max’s infamous “vampire dick” closing bit bombing with his grandma in the audience).

  • “You gotta know when to leave, Max… you don’t need that closer.” – Tom (42:47)

• Career Flukes: Tom recalls being the lucrative voice of the Arby’s “Oven Mitt,” wishing more weird gigs like that existed.

• Riffing on Job Loss: Jennifer and Tom playfully commiserate about getting fired and the unpredictability of creative careers.

8. Memorable Quotes & Comic Moments

• On Ambassadorship Skills:
  • Jennifer: “I didn't do much, Tom. That was part of the problem.” (05:55)
  • Tom: “Well, you shouldn’t have to do much… That’s your brand, not knowing what the fuck you’re talking about.” (05:57–06:04)
• On Firing Etiquette:
  • Jennifer: “They said, we love you, it’s not you, it’s us. We’re going in a different direction.” (19:55)
• On Relationships:
  • Tom: “People should get divorced before they get married. ‘Cause you don’t know who you’re married to until you get a divorce.” (16:10)
• On Aging:
  • Tom: “Your face is very young. Your hands, you might not want to show them on the face…” (21:01)
• On Sex Room Design:
  • Jeff: “The flooring… because clean up the jizz.” (47:22)
  • Tom: “Give me the penis. We’re doing it and we did it.” (37:46, on a movie role)

Timestamps for Key Segments

| Time | Topic | |--------|-------------------------------------------------------------------| | 04:12 | Jennifer’s firing from American Dream Mall | | 12:35 | Age, bladder infections, and TMI marriage/body talk | | 15:46 | Jennifer’s approach: own your failings upfront | | 16:00 | Tom and Jeff on divorce and seeing partners’ dark sides | | 18:28 | Housewives talk, BravoCon, and reality TV culture | | 34:44 | Tom’s Twitter porn habits and group reaction | | 37:39 | “Dragpyres,” stand-up, and wild career side-gigs | | 45:38 | Designing sex rooms for the rich & all the kinky details | | 47:22 | Discussion of explicit sex room cleaning details | | 49:07 | Sex rooms, NDAs, and privacy; recording/streaming possibilities | | 50:26 | Episode wrap-up and comedic final notes |

Conclusion

This episode is an energetic whirlwind of self-deprecating comedy, industry insider tales, and candid admissions about failure, sex, and midlife changes. Whether discussing Jennifer’s “legendary” incompetence as a mall ambassador, Tom’s parade of ex-wives, or the logistics of custom sex rooms for rich New York couples, the show never takes itself too seriously. It’s a must-listen for fans of caustic humor, oversharing, and the untamed edge of reality-celebrity culture.

For more hilarious chaos:
Catch Jeff Lewis Has Issues weekdays on SiriusXM, or find Tom Arnold’s standup tour dates at tomarnoldcomedy.com.