
Vicki Gunvalson, Patti Stanger, & Shane Douglas join Jeff Lewis in Los Angeles.
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Vicki Gunvalson
When you're Jeff Lewis, the drama never stops.
Jeff Lewis
This dementia's aggressive.
Vicki Gunvalson
Really?
Patty Stanger
So is the drinking.
Jeff Lewis
You know, I've never been on a private plane before, and I'm very excited. Are you serious? No, never. What are you, a Martian?
Vicki Gunvalson
You're really demented. You're actually demented. Aye yai yai, Chef Lewis.
Jeff Lewis
Hey, welcome to Jeff. Lewis has issues. In today's episode, Vicki Gumbelson and Patty Stenger join the show. We talk about tapeworms, chocolate chip cookies and water balloons. Morning, ladies.
Shane
Good morning.
Jeff Lewis
Shane was off yesterday. Vicki, you'll be very proud of him. He closed escrow on his new condo and he moved in yesterday.
Vicki Gunvalson
Yay. That's so exciting. Congratulations. I know we talked a little bit about it. Super proud of you.
Patty Stanger
Yeah, thank you.
Jeff Lewis
How do you like the Hollywood Versailles lifestyle?
Patty Stanger
I love the lifestyle. I love the elevators, the doorman. There's someone to take my packages up. It was just really luxurious.
Jeff Lewis
Valet parking.
Patty Stanger
Valet parking. If you guys want to come over, you don't have to park yourself.
Vicki Gunvalson
You have a pool.
Patty Stanger
Yeah, pool.
Shane
I'll come then.
Patty Stanger
Come lay out.
Vicki Gunvalson
Gym and all that. Probably. Oh, good.
Shane
Look at you. Fancy, fancy, fancy pants.
Vicki Gunvalson
Jeff must be paying you well.
Jeff Lewis
Yeah, he checked his steps on his iPhone. He walked six and a half miles.
Patty Stanger
Yesterday over 15,000 steps. Because it was the move. It was like.
Shane
Oh, you mean like going up the.
Patty Stanger
Stairs and taking a shit 15 hours all over.
Vicki Gunvalson
Hopefully you'll be there a while.
Shane
Well, congratulations. Mazel tov.
Patty Stanger
Thank you.
Jeff Lewis
I only called you like six times yesterday.
Patty Stanger
That was it. Well, and then you had. The accountant was calling me. There was some work back and forth, but pretty.
Jeff Lewis
I was very independent yesterday.
Patty Stanger
How did it go? I was worried.
Jeff Lewis
I think it went really well. I mean, Annie, what do you think?
Vicki Gunvalson
You were good. You were definitely confident.
Shane
Wait, Annie had a hesitation there. I saw that hesitation.
Jeff Lewis
Did I seem lost to you at all?
Vicki Gunvalson
You seemed lost.
Jeff Lewis
Really?
Vicki Gunvalson
Yeah. Aww. You just seemed a little like sidekick was gone. More empty than normal. You need a cheat to reassure your decisions.
Jeff Lewis
It's true.
Patty Stanger
What did you guys have for lunch?
Vicki Gunvalson
Jones.
Jeff Lewis
Yeah, Annie ordered it. She did a great job. And she actually ordered. She ordered from the Jones in our.
Patty Stanger
City, not the Studio City location.
Vicki Gunvalson
Right.
Jeff Lewis
Which was fantastic because sometimes me, last.
Vicki Gunvalson
Time I was coming here, I was at the wrong Katsuya.
Jeff Lewis
Yes. Okay. So how are you doing? Because the last time I saw you, we were spending 4th of July together, all of us, actually. And you were viciously attacked by water.
Vicki Gunvalson
Well, the blue bruise has finally gone away. I definitely had a. It was crazy. I had a bruise for like a week.
Patty Stanger
Like a black eye.
Shane
Uh huh.
Jeff Lewis
Vicki, I did describe what happened. So now, first of all, thank God Mike is here. And when we first started getting on the bicycle, you were on a tandem bike with Mike. And Mike was not happy. I remembered being on a bike with you because your balance wasn't great. And I know he was doing all the work. And I had suggested to Mike at least five times, like, let her have her own bike. Let her have her own bike. Well, thank God you didn't have your own bike.
Vicki Gunvalson
Thank God I didn't. Thank God I didn't. So I am not. I love to ride my bike. I'm good. I'm a bike rider.
Jeff Lewis
But you're not that good.
Vicki Gunvalson
Well, I'm. I could. As long as I don't have. Well, on a tandem, you have no control. Like, you can't steer. You just have to pedal. And you. You have to hope that the person that's steering and doing everything is knowing what he's doing. And I was trusting Mike that he was doing, but we were not more than a block away.
Jeff Lewis
Yes.
Vicki Gunvalson
And I got into Armageddon. I was like, what in the world? And by the way, Kelly knew that street.
Jeff Lewis
I know she did.
Shane
I said, did she do that on purpose to us?
Vicki Gunvalson
She did.
Patty Stanger
She very much did.
Jeff Lewis
She did.
Patty Stanger
So just to tell the story, we're all hanging out at Kelly's on fourth of July. And then Kelly kept insisting all day long, we need to do a bike ride. We need to do a bike ride. We have 12 bikes. We're ready. No one was super into it, but like, we're like, fine, we'll bike to the beach. Okay.
Jeff Lewis
We were having fun at our house too.
Vicki Gunvalson
There were no helmets, so I'm thinking, don't wear.
Shane
There were no helmets. That was weird. Too. I thought of that.
Jeff Lewis
So, Patty, you were on a bike.
Shane
I was scared. Yes.
Jeff Lewis
Now, did you go before Vicky?
Shane
No, Vicky was behind me.
Jeff Lewis
Yeah. So you were in front of her?
Shane
Yeah. And then I looked behind and I saw her get hit because I saw the water all over. Like, we all got hit, but she got hit in the face.
Jeff Lewis
Did you get hit?
Shane
I got hit my lower part. You know, like.
Jeff Lewis
Like the vagina.
Shane
Like, my ass.
Jeff Lewis
Okay.
Shane
My vagina and my ass. My vagina, just to be technical. And we all got hit. And, like, I kept thinking, like, why? And they were. They were like parents with their children. This is one children. This was parents out. Like, this is their day. They were going to kill with everybody.
Jeff Lewis
Yeah.
Vicki Gunvalson
Kill us.
Shane
Yeah.
Jeff Lewis
Well, when I saw that slingshot, that's when I knew.
Vicki Gunvalson
I knew.
Jeff Lewis
I'm surprised you survived, you know, and.
Vicki Gunvalson
It was on my right ear, which I've had eight surgeries on. So this whole side of my head is not Norma. I mean, I don't have a full bone there. And I just kept thinking. And Mike didn't say a word. Like, I knew he was gonna go back and kill somebody, so I thought, we just gotta go back to him.
Shane
And you lost your Gucci sunglasses.
Vicki Gunvalson
And then they got. And then they went back and found him.
Jeff Lewis
But thank God Mike was driving because you would have lost your balance and you would have been down, but Mike was steering and he was balancing the bike. So you kept. But the problem is you were on the back. And then they. It's like, we tried to get through as fast as we could, but Mike was in the front, so you were almost a shield. And then I got on the left of you because I shielded you. You Armageddon? You actually did because I was on the left side of the tandem bike. And then. I don't know if you noticed, but Mike wouldn't have been able to do this with the tandem bike. But I immediately went far left up on the sidewalk to get behind them.
Shane
You did.
Jeff Lewis
So I got hit once or twice, and then I. I went far left onto the side like Shane.
Shane
Did you even get hit because you were, like, so far ahead?
Patty Stanger
I did. I got one good one to the chest, but that was it.
Shane
And what about your boyfriend?
Patty Stanger
He got. He got, like, one on his back.
Shane
Wasn't pretty, like, all the way ahead because. Felt like we weren't catching up.
Vicki Gunvalson
We went to three different Armageddons. It was like.
Jeff Lewis
Did Kelly get hit at all?
Vicki Gunvalson
No.
Jeff Lewis
How is that possible?
Shane
I don't know.
Vicki Gunvalson
She, like.
Shane
Maybe they Knew her. Maybe they knew her and go, oh, she's the neighbor. We won't hit her.
Vicki Gunvalson
I don't know. I think it was set up to hurt me.
Jeff Lewis
They were animals. It's like they just sit there and they wait for people to come down that street.
Shane
Parents, like, you usually go, the kids are doing it. Like, we gotta get the kids to stop. It was the parents doing it.
Vicki Gunvalson
So when he wasn't speaking at all, he goes, we're going back to the house. We're going home. We're going home. We're going home. I'm like, okay. We got there. And I go, where's my glasses? I know I had my new Gucci glasses on. Then they went back and got them, and he didn't speak much. And you guys got back, and everybody was kind of somber, and I thought, you know, it's time to go. It's time to go. Yeah.
Shane
We all left.
Vicki Gunvalson
We left.
Shane
We left.
Vicki Gunvalson
We went back through the gates of Coto. Oh, the birds were chirping in the green valleys. I was like, we're not going there again.
Jeff Lewis
No, no, no, no, no.
Shane
And, like, we didn't go to. You know who else we didn't go to? Whose houses? We won't talk about that. But we did. We went back to the Panjeri because we were like, we're tired. That was tiring. I was tired from that day. You know, I was tired.
Vicki Gunvalson
I was traumatized.
Shane
No, I mean, like, you were traumatized. And we were all like, that was a buzz kill.
Jeff Lewis
So we can talk about. We were supposed to go to Shannon's afterwards. Shannon's friends was having a barbecue.
Shane
Yes.
Jeff Lewis
But it was just. It kind of did damper the mood when you got attacked. And then we heard about. And then we were wet and we were tired. We've been drinking all day.
Shane
And then Shannon had her dog eat all the bones.
Jeff Lewis
Oh, that's right.
Shane
That was horrible.
Patty Stanger
Not. Not on purpose. Like, there was, like, she made her famous. And then the dog got into the.
Vicki Gunvalson
Wait, you guys went to Shannon's house?
Jeff Lewis
No, we were supposed to, but did you know what happened?
Vicki Gunvalson
No.
Jeff Lewis
So it's the cute new dog, right?
Shane
Yes, it's the puppy. The puppy.
Jeff Lewis
You would be so pissed. So basically, her really good friend's daughter, Shannon hired her to watch the dogs on 4th of July. So the ribs were out. She left the ribs out, and the dog jumped up on the counter, ate all the ribs, bones and all. So then she. When she got home from the 4th of July party, she had to take the dog to the. To urgent care, and he was there all night. He's okay now. Thank God.
Patty Stanger
He did not have to get surgery, but it was.
Vicki Gunvalson
Did you go to her house?
Shane
No, we were supposed to. We got buzz kill from getting a traumatic Fourth of July, and it was very traumatic. We were worried about you. We were all worried about you because we saw the swelling on the eye.
Vicki Gunvalson
Swelling? I had a big blue. Yeah.
Shane
And we were just like, we don't want to go out. We want to go home.
Jeff Lewis
I never thought water balloons could do that kind of damage.
Shane
That's very.
Jeff Lewis
It was the slingshot.
Vicki Gunvalson
It was a slingshot.
Shane
It was the slingshot.
Vicki Gunvalson
It's kind of like the football in the head. When I was river and they had a gun. Waterlogged football to the head.
Shane
They had, like, a rifle gun with it at the end coming out, because I saw that, too. There was, like, a rifle.
Jeff Lewis
How many animals were out there?
Shane
Like, a lot. A lot. Millions and millions of people from that.
Vicki Gunvalson
I don't think they were human. I think they were animals.
Shane
They were reptilians. They were reptilians.
Vicki Gunvalson
But Mike didn't speak much on the way home. I'm like, are you okay? He's like, I'm so mad. This is ridiculous. You know?
Jeff Lewis
I mean, it sounded fun. See, Kelly had told me a couple days prior, and I have it in a text where she said, oh, there's this street, and they throw water balloons, and it would be funny if they got Shane. And it didn't. When we got on the bike, I completely forgot. It didn't occur to me, because had I remembered, I'd be like, vicki, no, no, no. Let's go down the other street. But when we were. When we were in it. You can't go back because you're gonna get hit.
Shane
You had to keep going. No, like, when we went back, your lovely boyfriend did a side street and got us all the way around, which I thought was genius. And we got home earlier than everybody else. But I was like, why don't we do that? Remember, we got home really quick, and I go, why didn't we do that going home? Why did we go the long way?
Patty Stanger
She did it on purpose.
Shane
Yeah. She wanted to hurt us. There's something there.
Vicki Gunvalson
There's something there.
Shane
There's something going on there.
Jeff Lewis
Did you seek medical treatment?
Vicki Gunvalson
No, I didn't. No. I just was. We were traumatized. We were. For a while, we didn't speak. I was like, did that just happen in my head? My bad side of my head. Like, this side, you don't do anything to. This side is all the surgery side. You don't touch it. You just hold it and you just love on it. You just don't.
Jeff Lewis
If you had a helmet, you would have been fine, right?
Vicki Gunvalson
So, yeah, like.
Shane
So here's the moral of the story. Don't bike ride without a helmet, because none of us had helmets.
Jeff Lewis
Or don't bike ride with Kelly Dodd.
Vicki Gunvalson
Go down the beach and have, like.
Jeff Lewis
That's what I thought we were doing.
Vicki Gunvalson
It was a beautiful day. I thought, why not? You know, we. We went from Newport to Huntington one year, Fourth of July. It was so fun. And we had our electric bikes, and it was. It was a long trip, but I thought it was gonna be, like, nice.
Jeff Lewis
Well, that was what was presented to us. We're gonna go bar hopping. We're bringing the bikes and. And then we.
Shane
I was like, bar hopping with bikes, huh?
Jeff Lewis
Like, it sounded fun.
Vicki Gunvalson
Yeah.
Jeff Lewis
Until we got attacked.
Vicki Gunvalson
Yeah, we definitely got attacked.
Jeff Lewis
Now, do you ever do this? So last night I went upstairs. Do you ever walk into a room? Because my nanny was telling me that when you hit your 50s, this is what happens. Do you ever walk into a room and then forget why you're in that room?
Shane
Yes. Oh, my God. Menopause brain. And now there's menopause brain.
Jeff Lewis
I have menopause brain. I went upstairs. I went upstairs. I walk in my room, and I.
Vicki Gunvalson
Go, why am I here?
Jeff Lewis
What am I doing up here? I know I had to come upstairs for a reason. And then I just started kind of wandering. And Monroe was in her room, and the nanny was in there, too. And. And I'm like. And she was like. I could tell. She was like, what are you doing? I said, you know, I don't know. I said, I came up here for a reason, and I'm waiting for it to hit me, Right?
Shane
Yeah.
Jeff Lewis
And then I went. And so then it literally, I went back downstairs.
Patty Stanger
Has it hit you yet?
Jeff Lewis
Fifteen minutes later, I was going to cut my fingernails.
Vicki Gunvalson
Oh, God, I love that.
Jeff Lewis
I went all the way upstairs, cut my fingernails, and I forgot why I was up there.
Vicki Gunvalson
Yeah, it gets worse in the 60s.
Shane
Yeah, way worse.
Jeff Lewis
Really?
Vicki Gunvalson
Yes.
Shane
Fuck, fuck. Fuck. Yes, Way worse.
Jeff Lewis
I got a little worried yesterday.
Vicki Gunvalson
I get worried every day. I mean, I really challenge my brain. I read a lot. I do numbers a lot. Like, I have to keep my brain going because I know once it gets sedentary, you're over. It's over. It dries up. It shrivels up like a raisin it's done.
Jeff Lewis
They say that also when you walk every day, that it's supposed to help with dementia. So I walk every single day. A lot of steps, so. But it's not helping.
Patty Stanger
Maybe it's time to start reading. Can you start? Maybe we bring you down to first grade books. Start there and then you'll get comfortable.
Shane
You have to do puzzles, like the dimension people do puzzles.
Vicki Gunvalson
There's a study on walking. There was eight areas that they lived the longest into their hundreds because of walking. Like it was a place in Yorba Linda, ironically, because all the people walked to the grocery store.
Shane
Oh, my God. My ex is from Yorba.
Patty Stanger
She's gonna live forever.
Vicki Gunvalson
You know, Asia's gonna live forever. Living a long time, because they're walking everywhere.
Jeff Lewis
I had read that Betty White, who, you know, she lived well into her 90s, right?
Vicki Gunvalson
Beautiful lady.
Jeff Lewis
I had read that she. Her home. It was several flights of steps to get up to her home. And she always credited that. Why she was.
Shane
I have three levels of steps. I go up and down all day long, and then at the end of the day, I check my steps and I'm like. I'm amazed how many steps I went up and down. She was three levels. Yeah. She was, you know, Queen Victoria age. You know, where they live forever. Yeah.
Jeff Lewis
Now the Whoop it up bar. Did you pull the plug on that?
Vicki Gunvalson
We did.
Jeff Lewis
I'm actually so glad you did.
Vicki Gunvalson
We did. We were actually in Oklahoma, coming back on a plane, and my gut was telling me, like, do we really want to work this hard in retirement? We wanted something to do together, and we love Puerto Vallarta, but do we really want to be in a bar at night? Do I really want him in a bar at night? Do I want to be in a bar at night, you know, counting beers and ordering.
Jeff Lewis
Wiping down counters and cleaning toilets and serving drinks?
Vicki Gunvalson
And we lost a little bit of money, but we could have lost a lot of. A lot more money if we went through with it. So it would have done a four year turnaround in order to really break even and have a good residual income. So we're done. We did the whole plan. We had the architect there, the contractor there. I did a whole design plan. We did the llc, we did the trademark. We did everything. And then something didn't feel right. So we're not doing that.
Jeff Lewis
I have to say, I was a little worried about it. It's a big undertaking. It is a huge expense. And you say four years, but what if it's eight? And now you and Mike are spending, you know, 70% of your life down there in a bar.
Vicki Gunvalson
And we're not big drinkers, so it's like we doing this. So the answer is no.
Jeff Lewis
I'm glad I know.
Vicki Gunvalson
Thank you. It was a good decision. We feel good about it. And now he just put an offer on a house in Palm Springs, La Quinta, yesterday. So fun praying that comes through. Wait till we show you it. It's gorgeous.
Jeff Lewis
Really.
Vicki Gunvalson
The, the, the views are gorgeous. And it's got a pool and it's got.
Jeff Lewis
And he wants to golf, right?
Vicki Gunvalson
He likes to do that ball in the hole 18 times. I'm like, oh, my God, kill me. You know?
Jeff Lewis
So we can do that in La Quinta.
Vicki Gunvalson
I'll the spa and I'll just work a little bit. Like I just want to.
Jeff Lewis
Does Mike play in Kodo also?
Vicki Gunvalson
Yes, he does.
Jeff Lewis
Okay.
Vicki Gunvalson
He met a really great group of guys that invite him and he's going to join the membership there. So he'll have two memberships and he'll just be happy, happy, happy. I don't get the golf thing. Does anybody get the golf thing? No, I don't get it. Kill me.
Jeff Lewis
It's too slow for me.
Vicki Gunvalson
I mean, eight hours, six hours. Stop. I just. Somebody said I should take pickleball up. I'm like, dang.
Jeff Lewis
But you love the country club. You like going there to eat and all that.
Vicki Gunvalson
I mean, eating, scratch. I like the social part of it. I love the beauty. I don't really know what I'm gonna do when I retire. Help me.
Jeff Lewis
You're not gonna retire. You will never retire. I'll never retire. Patty will never retire.
Vicki Gunvalson
No, I mean, I will always do something. I don't know if I want the grind that I'm doing right now. 10 hours a day is a lot, you know.
Jeff Lewis
Now, I don't wanna cause any problems for you and Mike, but is it true that you have. You had announced to Mike that you have a hall pass? There was a man you had met at the country club.
Vicki Gunvalson
Oh my God. Stop with yourselves. The hall pass went away. Cause I know his soon to be wife and she. So. And they're. They're LA Sergeant police people and they're just quality people. And I would never ever cheat.
Jeff Lewis
But he's a retired SWAT officer. He's hot damn.
Vicki Gunvalson
When I saw him, I'm like, dang. Mike and I, I would never.
Jeff Lewis
You should not say that in front of Mike.
Vicki Gunvalson
Well, he.
Jeff Lewis
Mike's a good looking man, by the way.
Vicki Gunvalson
Of course he is. But he already Said, well, there's this hot brunette girl at the club that I looked at twice. I'm like, who? Who? Who are you looking at twice? They're all married here. What are you talking about? So now you won't give me your name. So I'm going to go after him, by the way.
Jeff Lewis
But. So you started this?
Vicki Gunvalson
I started it, but I would never act on it. I just thought he was good looking. He was strong. He was.
Patty Stanger
Keep it to yourself, Shannon. And tell Shannon. Don't tell your partner.
Jeff Lewis
Yeah, don't tell Mike.
Vicki Gunvalson
He's getting married in, like, August 3rd, and I respect him.
Jeff Lewis
You don't have much time.
Vicki Gunvalson
No, I would never like. No, They're a beautiful couple and we got to know him very well. But to look at him, he's just a macho man. And I don't know.
Jeff Lewis
Here's the problem. Does she know you want to fuck her. Her fiance?
Vicki Gunvalson
I don't want to fuck her fiance. God, no. I just thought he was a good looking macho man, and that's. I. Macho men.
Jeff Lewis
Okay.
Vicki Gunvalson
Like Mike. He's a macho man.
Jeff Lewis
Okay. I just think if you're. If you have an attraction to someone at the club, can you please just keep it to yourself?
Vicki Gunvalson
Well, I kept it to him and I didn't think it was gonna go on.
Jeff Lewis
No, you don't tell your partner, but.
Vicki Gunvalson
He'S my best friend and I would never keep anything from him.
Jeff Lewis
But that you need to keep from him.
Vicki Gunvalson
But, Mike, then you need to keep that. You want that brunette girl.
Jeff Lewis
The only reason he said that is to get back at you because you.
Vicki Gunvalson
Okay? It hurt. It's stung a little bit.
Jeff Lewis
Oh. He said kind of.
Vicki Gunvalson
Oh, God. There isn't. And I'm thinking there isn't any brunette people at the club. They're all leaf blonde hair like me. I'm like, which one was brunette?
Patty Stanger
That was Patty.
Jeff Lewis
Are you watching Real Housewives of Orange County Season 19?
Vicki Gunvalson
I watched one episode.
Jeff Lewis
The first one Painful?
Vicki Gunvalson
Yeah.
Jeff Lewis
First one was terrible. Slow.
Vicki Gunvalson
Yeah, I just, you know, I watched episode two.
Jeff Lewis
I don't get it either. I was watching episode two and they brought Gretchen in, and I thought, they need to bring Gretchen in in episode one.
Vicki Gunvalson
Right.
Jeff Lewis
Episode one was fucking painful. And it's like, I just keep. I feel like I'm. Which season is this? Because it feels like last season and the season before.
Vicki Gunvalson
It's like Groundhog Day. It's like style.
Jeff Lewis
It really is.
Vicki Gunvalson
It is.
Jeff Lewis
Did you watch it, buddy?
Shane
No, but I like, feel like we're all originals okay, like, Vicky should have been there. Like, like, in other words, I can't watch it anymore. Like, when they brought Gretchen back and they brought Tamara back, I was like, okay, like, hello. You're bringing everyone back. You need the rating boosters. We have the audience. Bring Vicki back. Like, it's annoying. I don't really watch because she's not on.
Vicki Gunvalson
Thank you, doll.
Jeff Lewis
Yeah, but who knows?
Vicki Gunvalson
We're down to 500,000 views on the show. It used to be a million three when I was on. Just saying.
Shane
I mean, like, everything was a million. Two million, three million. Like we just saw Next Gen has really good ratings, by the way. We just saw it. And. And congratulations, Next Gen, cuz we're really proud of you. But I. I don't care. No, I'm excited for you could say.
Jeff Lewis
You'Re proud of that.
Vicki Gunvalson
I don't care.
Jeff Lewis
I'm not. I'm gonna say I'm really proud.
Shane
I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why. Tell you why. This is good. Because there's no. Okay, listen, you want to show. Everybody wants a show, right? We want to come back. But here's the thing. If that means there's a turn in the tide, because look, they got rid of E News this week. A lot of cancellations at cbs. Like, this is good that this next generation will. Will pave the way for more shows.
Jeff Lewis
Fine. I'm happy. Okay.
Vicki Gunvalson
I don't know.
Jeff Lewis
I'm happy for Bravo, whatever.
Patty Stanger
No, but don't you happy for Gia?
Vicki Gunvalson
Yeah.
Shane
Aren't you happy for Ariana?
Jeff Lewis
I love Amira. She's so pretty.
Shane
I mean, good.
Patty Stanger
Towards the end of the season, she.
Shane
Brooks. What about Brooks?
Jeff Lewis
I need to check back in.
Patty Stanger
Yeah, you do.
Shane
Okay, well, anyway, I'm really proud of them and I think it's great that they, you know, are telling their stories in their.
Jeff Lewis
You're being very diplomatic right now.
Shane
I'm not. I'm also. I'm a pretty.
Vicki Gunvalson
Back to Orange County. Back to Orange County. What does everyone think?
Shane
We think that you should be on Vicki. That's so funny. No, it's just.
Vicki Gunvalson
It's a little painful watching it.
Jeff Lewis
I'll tell you why. One of the big problems when you have career women that give up their jobs to be professional reality stars.
Shane
Correct.
Jeff Lewis
That is the problem. Because they have no storyline. So then you have to make shit up. You got to create shit.
Shane
Like, Vicki really has a business.
Vicki Gunvalson
But all they do is go fight and figure out way to get mad at somebody.
Shane
Right? Because they're like, trophy. I Don't know what you call them. Trophy wives.
Jeff Lewis
You can only have so many trophy wives.
Shane
Right, Exactly.
Vicki Gunvalson
So what is a trophy wife?
Shane
Which means they have no job.
Vicki Gunvalson
Like, you have a. I know what a trophy.
Shane
Why does it have a business?
Vicki Gunvalson
What is their purpose in life?
Shane
Their purpose in business is to rile people up and, like, start drama and.
Vicki Gunvalson
Talk about gossip until they get kicked off. Then what?
Shane
Then they do it. They recycle a new one. That's the storyline.
Vicki Gunvalson
It's painful, Jeff.
Shane
I mean, we're gonna see what happens. I'm really excited about Beverly.
Jeff Lewis
I never thought Gina was the right fit. I'm sure she's. I've met her before. She's very nice. She's very nice, but she's.
Shane
She's stale. Yeah.
Jeff Lewis
She's not the right fit.
Shane
I. I met her too. She's very nice.
Vicki Gunvalson
Emily, Gina, I mean.
Jeff Lewis
Well, I want to see Emily back to. I like Emily a lot. I'd like to see her go back to work.
Shane
Is her husband.
Vicki Gunvalson
I don't understand why she's hiring an attorney when her and her husband are attorneys.
Shane
What is she hiring an attorney for?
Vicki Gunvalson
Some cease and desist or something. Something. I don't get it.
Shane
Oh, you don't know the story.
Vicki Gunvalson
Things that are happening. It's just.
Shane
So what do you think about Tamara?
Vicki Gunvalson
Fabricated. Who?
Shane
Okay, never mind.
Vicki Gunvalson
I can't stand watching Tamara anymore. She's done.
Jeff Lewis
Look, I think the therapy thing has played out.
Shane
Yeah. I agree with you.
Jeff Lewis
She has a very big business I'd love to get more about. I'd love to know more about that.
Shane
The cannabis thing. Are you talking about cannabis?
Jeff Lewis
Even the podcast, Like, I mean, she's got a big podcast with Teddy, with Ted saying she's successful.
Vicki Gunvalson
Of course. Yeah. She's a hard worker.
Jeff Lewis
So I would rather see her, like, going to work and doing the podcast with Teddy and maybe some behind the scenes and, you know what guests and what are we talking about? And then. Then she meets with Eddie and her partners on Vena and this is what we're doing and this is what we're.
Shane
Because they lost their gym. They should show the transition.
Jeff Lewis
That's what's interesting to me. I don't want to see therapy again another season.
Shane
I hate when they sit in the chair and just discuss their. Their crap. I hate that stuff because they don't get anywhere most of the time.
Jeff Lewis
And I love Tamara. I love Tamara. She's not changing.
Shane
No, she's not changing.
Vicki Gunvalson
It's okay.
Jeff Lewis
You accept it. For she is. Move on.
Shane
She's a bitch. Yep. Agree.
Jeff Lewis
So, I don't know. I mean, I'm hoping it's gonna pick up. I didn't see episode three. Did you watch it?
Patty Stanger
Yeah. In the teaser, Kiki Monique gets a shout out because apparently, like, someone is accusing her of.
Vicki Gunvalson
No, we're talking Orange county housewives.
Patty Stanger
Kiki Monique, she's a host on Sirius XM Reality Check.
Jeff Lewis
Remember I told you about that?
Patty Stanger
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Heather Dubrow accuses someone. I forget who. Of like, using her to leak stories. Plant stories.
Jeff Lewis
That's the other thing that's played out. Oh, you said this about. About me and you planted this to the.
Shane
Do you think it's a showrunner issue where they're not directing them in the right direction as a showrunner?
Jeff Lewis
I honestly, if I was casting, I would go through what's going on in your life. Yeah, you know what? I'm bored. I'm bored. Next. Let's go to the next person.
Vicki Gunvalson
She used to sit us down every year and say, what's going on for the next season? I'm like, it's called life. I didn't know my mom was gonna die. I didn't know all these things were going to happen. I didn't know Brianna was gonna get pregnant, get married. I didn't know.
Shane
Know.
Vicki Gunvalson
It's called life. But now it's like, what do they sit down and say? What are you going to. What's going on in your life? They're like, well, I'm going to sell some real estate and I'm going to find out who lied, and I'm going to get a lie detector test. Like, what?
Jeff Lewis
But even if they had shown Gina doing an open house or working with a client or a difficult client or whatever, that would be more interesting. What's happening right now?
Vicki Gunvalson
I want an inspirational story. I want to know how everybody survives in Orange county and LA and California. It's tough here. You got to be a hustler.
Jeff Lewis
I mean, I don't want to piss off Bravo, but as of now, I'm not loving the season.
Vicki Gunvalson
Not either.
Jeff Lewis
I'm not loving the season.
Shane
I haven't watched. I can't say, to be honest with you now.
Jeff Lewis
Did you say you have a parasite and you blame Bravo?
Vicki Gunvalson
Well, Bravo, I love you. Please do not get me in trouble. Well, you know, Brandy is in so much pain. I mean, she's got a very large.
Shane
Do you really think that's. From the Heart.
Jeff Lewis
To the ultimate girls trip.
Vicki Gunvalson
Morocco all got sick when we went to Morocco. And it's Been two years. No, four years.
Shane
Four years.
Vicki Gunvalson
Four years.
Shane
Four years.
Vicki Gunvalson
And Brandi's face is. She's got parasites. It moves. It goes into her mouth like it's.
Shane
You can see it, like moving on the video.
Jeff Lewis
What?
Vicki Gunvalson
Yeah.
Shane
Her face is distorted and you can see.
Jeff Lewis
Yeah. How do you get rid of it, Vicky?
Vicki Gunvalson
Well, I am doing colonics now. Now even Michael said the other day, you are not the same since you've been back from Morocco. I, I, my stomach's bloated. I don't feel good. I feel tired.
Shane
Have you. But you can get a parasite check. You know that, right?
Vicki Gunvalson
Right, I know. Brianna's having me do all that, so.
Jeff Lewis
Oh, because Brianna's a nurse.
Vicki Gunvalson
Yeah. So where I'm at now is I'm like, why do I always feel sluggish? I don't go poop. Like, it's very hard for me. Like, might be once a week, if that.
Jeff Lewis
I wasn't expecting you to say that.
Vicki Gunvalson
It's a pellet comes out. That's it. Just a little look, just a little something something and then it's nothing. So I gotta do Dulcolax. I gotta do a friggin.
Shane
No, no, no. I'll give you herbal stuff.
Vicki Gunvalson
I gotta do the Metamucil, old lady stuff. I'm not doing all that. That. So I went to colonic. She goes, you have parasites. We can tell what's coming out. Oh my God, you are loaded with parasites in your gut. I'm like, I knew something was wrong. She goes, were you traveling in a, you know, foreign country? Well, I go to Mexico all the time.
Jeff Lewis
Huntington Beach. I bet you got parasites.
Vicki Gunvalson
I think it's been, I think it's been going in there. So she just showed me a video of somebody that had like a two foot long parasite that came out with a head and a tail.
Jeff Lewis
And I bet you have that.
Vicki Gunvalson
I, I think it's. We're going to get up there, we're going to go up to the upper.
Shane
Wait, why aren't they killing the parasite? Well, they're going, yeah.
Jeff Lewis
Can't they give you something, Hurt her?
Vicki Gunvalson
I take our Ivermectin twice, two tablets once a month, every month. It's not killing it. I think this parasite likes to be.
Jeff Lewis
In me, like Mike.
Shane
So now you have to do the.
Patty Stanger
Metals like the guy at the club.
Vicki Gunvalson
Okay. Oh my God, you guys are so nasty. All of you, all.
Shane
No, you need to do the metals test. That's what I'll find out.
Vicki Gunvalson
Okay, we'll talk about that later.
Shane
I'LL give you all the stuff.
Vicki Gunvalson
All I'm doing is I'm doing colonics now. It's kind of weird, but they put a tube up your ass.
Shane
I don't know.
Jeff Lewis
Yes, we know what colonic is. Yes, we know what one is.
Vicki Gunvalson
What comes out. And I'm like, oh, my God, what's all that stuff?
Jeff Lewis
She goes, so you were really backed up from the parasite, But I go.
Vicki Gunvalson
Three times a week. Oh, my God.
Jeff Lewis
That's all you're going to little pellets three times a week?
Vicki Gunvalson
That's all I'm going to colonics three times a week. Oh. And we haven't even gotten to the upper part of the colon. It's bad.
Jeff Lewis
So you were telling me that you would. In the morning in Morocco, there'd be, like, a breakfast buffet for the girls.
Vicki Gunvalson
Yeah. Beautiful. Fruit, pastries, eggs. And it was covered with flies. Covered. And I'm like, I'm not eating it. And even my production company goes. She goes, yeah, it's pretty bad. They're gonna lay their shit on there, and then we're gonna eat their shit, and then we're all gonna get sick. Sure enough.
Jeff Lewis
So Brandy must have had the breakfast bar. Yeah, but you did, too, obviously.
Vicki Gunvalson
Yeah. I mean, you couldn't get around it even. Every west restaurant we went to is flies. Flies everywhere. Oh, wow. It was bad. So anyway.
Jeff Lewis
But other girls on the trip, did they get sick too?
Vicki Gunvalson
Yeah, everybody got sick.
Jeff Lewis
Wow.
Vicki Gunvalson
And that show never aired. If it would have aired, we would have seen all the flies all over everything.
Shane
Maybe that's why it didn't air.
Vicki Gunvalson
No, it didn't air.
Jeff Lewis
Did you care if it aired or not?
Vicki Gunvalson
No. Yes. Because that was really good. They said I was the MVP of the show. I kept it going on because you're like me.
Jeff Lewis
As long as the check clears.
Vicki Gunvalson
Yeah. When Brandy.
Jeff Lewis
I don't care what you do with it.
Vicki Gunvalson
It's. Oh, by the way, there's no checks. It's eft. We talked about efts. There's no checks. No, but it was, you know, when Brandy and Caroline got sent home, I had to keep the show going, and I did.
Jeff Lewis
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Vicki Gunvalson
Let's go.
Jeff Lewis
Jack and Rose lie side by side in what was the vertical face of the hole. Rose stares down terrified at the black ocean waiting below to claim the them. The final relentless plunge begins as the stern section floods looking down 100ft to the water. We drop like an elevator with Jack and Rose.
Vicki Gunvalson
Take a deep breath and hold it right before we go in the water. The ship will suck us down, kick for the surface and keep kicking. Don't let go of my hand. We're going to make it, Rose. Just trust me.
Jeff Lewis
She stares at the water coming at them and grips his hand Harder.
Vicki Gunvalson
Swim, Rose, swim.
Jeff Lewis
She tries, but strokes are not effective. Effective as his because of her life jacket.
Vicki Gunvalson
Okay, keep swimming. Keep moving. Come on, you can do it.
Shane
I love you, Jack.
Jeff Lewis
He takes her hand.
Vicki Gunvalson
No. Don't say your goodbyes, Rose. Don't you give up. Just don't do it.
Shane
I'm so cold.
Vicki Gunvalson
You're gonna get out of this. You're gonna go on and you're gonna make babies and watch them grow. And you're gonna die an old lady, warm in your bed. Not here. Not this night. Do you understand me, Rose?
Shane
I can't feel my body.
Vicki Gunvalson
Never let go.
Shane
I promise I will never let go, Jack. I'll never let go.
Jeff Lewis
She grips his hand and they lie with their heads together. It's quiet now, except for the lapping of the water. Oh my God, Vicky.
Patty Stanger
I have goosebumps.
Vicki Gunvalson
I love that song.
Jeff Lewis
Wow, you did so good, Vicky.
Vicki Gunvalson
Thank you so much.
Jeff Lewis
I think Vicky for sure got the role. And you did.
Patty Stanger
You did fantastic.
Jeff Lewis
Phenomenal. I would give them both the role.
Patty Stanger
Literally. I mean, I think you have a next career after that.
Vicki Gunvalson
This one. After this one. What's my career now?
Jeff Lewis
What do you think, Jameson? You're a thespian.
Vicki Gunvalson
I was actually really impressed.
Shane
I thought you both put heartfelt emotion into it. I was moved.
Vicki Gunvalson
Oh, I love that song. If I could have emotions, I would cry right now.
Jeff Lewis
What you think, Shane?
Patty Stanger
I thought it was great. I thought they both really. They brought their all to the roles. Was very believable. It sounded like you were in love.
Vicki Gunvalson
Yeah, we are in love.
Shane
We are in love.
Jeff Lewis
If they ever do like a remake, I would cast.
Shane
There you go. There you go.
Jeff Lewis
Now what happened to Manny? He was your friend in fourth of July. He was the one that was. You guys shared a story.
Shane
My makeup artist. No, and actually he does Vicki too. Ronnie, he's really great. He's a good friend of mine.
Jeff Lewis
He was so nice.
Shane
He's from Jersey. We bonded.
Jeff Lewis
Now you shared a. A suite together. Because he had told me that he was.
Shane
He slept in the. In the. We had like a two. Like a. I don't know, a one bed bedroom suite. You pull out the. The. You know, the convertible couch.
Jeff Lewis
Yeah, it was a lot of information, Vicki. But when we went back to the Pendry after. After the attack and we were just kind of relaxing outside and having a drink, reminiscing. Now, Ronnie said that he wanted to go out to bars and he was supposed to Go with you and Brogan.
Patty Stanger
We talked about going to Strut, and then we ultimately didn't.
Shane
Yeah. Why didn't you go to Strut?
Patty Stanger
We were tired. It was a long day.
Shane
And then.
Patty Stanger
And then it was just.
Vicki Gunvalson
We were just.
Shane
You want to go upstairs and kick it? Right.
Vicki Gunvalson
Well, one of my friends says, is there any gay bars in Orange County? I'm like, I don't think there Is there'? Okay. Because Christian was at my house. He's like, where's the gay bars?
Shane
I'm like, my friends who are gay in Huntington don't even know that. I'm gonna have to tell them now.
Vicki Gunvalson
Yeah.
Patty Stanger
Strut in Costa Mesa.
Jeff Lewis
Is it true? Because Ronnie told me that he was wearing a jock strap underneath his pants.
Shane
Yes.
Jeff Lewis
And you saw that?
Shane
Uh huh.
Jeff Lewis
Okay. So, you guys, I was kind of.
Shane
Horrified when I saw it because I never saw something. It's all black, like leather or something. And it was like, you know, it.
Jeff Lewis
Was a leather jock strap.
Shane
It was a little bds, you know, I was like, what is that? And he said, oh, no, it's just a thing. And I went, is this a sexual thing? Like, I didn't know what it was, to be honest.
Jeff Lewis
I thought it was odd that he volunteered that information.
Shane
If you look at his Instagram, he shows his butt a lot, so.
Jeff Lewis
Oh, Ronnie does.
Shane
Like a naked one? Yeah. I'm gonna like, yeah.
Jeff Lewis
Oh, he does. Have you seen his butt, Vicky?
Vicki Gunvalson
Not in real life, but on Instagram.
Shane
Yeah, he's really graphic. I love him, but he's graphic.
Jeff Lewis
How's this? Is it the Sunlightin sauna?
Vicki Gunvalson
Yes, it's great. I go in four times a week. It's amazing.
Shane
I want one of those.
Vicki Gunvalson
It's literally amazing. It's got the red light. I have to tell you a funny story, though. I don't really sweat enough in there. And Michael sweats a lot. So the other night we were in there and I hear drip, drip, drip. I'm like, oh, my God. How is the sauna dripping? Water. I look down and it's a pool of sweat going on the brand new teak. I'm like, are you sweating so much that it's dripping? And he's just lit. He goes, you're not sweating.
Shane
He looks thinner. Does that make you thinner?
Vicki Gunvalson
Is that a funny thing? When I told you to stop sweating so much in the sauna?
Jeff Lewis
Well, I think you just need more towels. Right?
Vicki Gunvalson
Right now it's all padded everywhere. There's no.
Jeff Lewis
How do you clean it? Who cleans it?
Vicki Gunvalson
So I clean It. You can do vinegar and water. You can do the young living clean that. I have that solution. But I'm. It's toweled up now and I wash them every time. I don't want any bacteria growing in there. So I'm washing, washing, washing. But I did say. I did say, stop dripping so much. I'm going in by myself next time. He shook his head at me. He's like, this is ridiculous.
Jeff Lewis
So you guys will go in together. Is it a three man or a four man spot?
Vicki Gunvalson
I got the three man, but it's really two of us. But go in naked and you sweat. Holy balls. You sweat. And I have the red light on me all the time. The red light and the green light.
Jeff Lewis
So I called them and I got an estimate for one for the three man. Now, because I know you, they were going to give me a $200 discount, which is very nice, but it's still $10,000.
Vicki Gunvalson
I know, but it's worth it. It's your health.
Jeff Lewis
$10,000.
Vicki Gunvalson
It's your health. You can go.
Jeff Lewis
You can do that, but you're using it four times a week.
Vicki Gunvalson
Try to do five. I love it.
Jeff Lewis
And how long you going in for?
Vicki Gunvalson
40 minutes. But I can watch a movie in there.
Shane
It's not a long time.
Jeff Lewis
Yes. Cameron Matheson said you should do 20 to more than 30.
Shane
Oh, he knows.
Vicki Gunvalson
Because you can do cardio, you can do weight loss, you can do detox. You have all these different screens you can do. And then I go in one and I go in the other one. And then in the middle of my movie, I don't want to leave, so I press it again.
Shane
And you wait. Do you feel like Titanic four hours? No, I'm never uncomfortable because I've been in saunas and I've. I'm more of a steam girl than a sauna girl.
Jeff Lewis
But this is an infrared, so it's.
Shane
It doesn't feel that.
Jeff Lewis
No, it's like a dry heat.
Vicki Gunvalson
Yeah. Everything is okay.
Jeff Lewis
It's a lot easier.
Vicki Gunvalson
Except this one with the wet. He's dripping, dripping, dripping.
Jeff Lewis
Okay, you've made your point. You sweat in a sauna. People sweat in saunas, Jeff.
Shane
You're spending $33,000 on a concrete driveway.
Vicki Gunvalson
Throw in another 10K for your health. You need it. I'm telling you. It just is. So you feel good. You so.
Shane
Well, you go in the shower.
Jeff Lewis
I want to get one, but I'm just price comparing and then do it.
Shane
Is there other ones that you like better?
Jeff Lewis
Sunlight and has some aggressive salespeople by.
Vicki Gunvalson
The way, do they.
Jeff Lewis
Oh, my God.
Shane
They call you like.
Patty Stanger
I was like, do not call me for a month. And then I got a Google invite for September for a call.
Vicki Gunvalson
That's so weird. He called me three times a month. I just bought it right away. Like, I did my research, I knew what I wanted. I don't have.
Shane
How big is it?
Vicki Gunvalson
It's big. It's a three person sauna.
Jeff Lewis
Is it comfortable when you're in there with Mike?
Vicki Gunvalson
Yes.
Jeff Lewis
Because Mike's a big guy.
Vicki Gunvalson
Yes, yes. He's a big guy.
Jeff Lewis
And you have room.
Vicki Gunvalson
Yes, yes. And I have the bamboo thing. So if I'm in there by myself, I'll lean against that, put my feet up. I get all the light at me, all the red light.
Shane
But you know, red lights are the best thing for you.
Vicki Gunvalson
So good.
Jeff Lewis
I'm gonna get one. I just gotta figure out what.
Shane
Can I tell you something they found out recently then I'm dying to learn that red light cures your eyes and you may not need glasses. That's the new thing.
Vicki Gunvalson
Well, guess what? You all that need glasses, you need to go get contacts like me. So you never put glasses on. Michael and I have contacts we never look at.
Shane
I'm not good at putting the contact.
Vicki Gunvalson
I can read.
Jeff Lewis
What are you showing me? What are you showing me?
Vicki Gunvalson
I can read.
Jeff Lewis
I don't.
Shane
Meaning you won't need.
Jeff Lewis
You did a great job reading your script.
Shane
With your contacts, you won't need contacts. You won't need glasses. That's the new thing. They said that red lights came.
Patty Stanger
Put your light. Put your eye right up to the light.
Vicki Gunvalson
Well, anyway, it's great.
Jeff Lewis
So Mike's daughter got married. Beautiful ceremony in San Juan Capistrano. Now you looked gorgeous. I saw. You both looked great together. Except I noticed in the picture that you had two different earrings on.
Vicki Gunvalson
I know. By mistake. So I had these two big Chanels.
Patty Stanger
Your eyes were that good.
Jeff Lewis
One was Gucci, one was Chanel. Right?
Vicki Gunvalson
They're both Chanel, but they were different. One had sequins, one didn't. And they were both vintage. And. And my girl did my makeup. Devin. Love her. And I said, which ones do you think are better? And she's like, I like the ones on the left. I'm like, okay, good, we gotta get going to the wedding. I went to the wedding, did the whole six hours of the wedding, got home, went to take them out of my ears. I'm like, are you kidding me? I mean, they were noticeably different.
Patty Stanger
No one told you?
Vicki Gunvalson
Nobody.
Jeff Lewis
They were noticeably Different.
Vicki Gunvalson
Noticeably different. So there you go. That's a Vickyism. There we go.
Jeff Lewis
But I wonder if they think you did it intentionally.
Vicki Gunvalson
I would hope not. I never looked in the mirror. I knew my makeup was good, my hair was good. Like, let's go to be late.
Patty Stanger
You didn't go to the bathroom and look at yourself in the whole six hours?
Vicki Gunvalson
I don't go to the bath. No. I do not go to the bath. No.
Jeff Lewis
Remember pellets?
Vicki Gunvalson
I don't go to the bathroom.
Jeff Lewis
The parasites once a week.
Vicki Gunvalson
And plus there was a long line and you know, urine doesn't really come out much either.
Jeff Lewis
So I just, you know, I would imagine. I wonder how big that parasite is by now because four years he's been growing.
Vicki Gunvalson
I think he's been growing a long time.
Patty Stanger
You didn't. You didn't pee for six hours?
Shane
Hours.
Vicki Gunvalson
I don't pee for six hours, Mike. Do I pee for six hours on the airplane. I can sit by the window. I never get out. Never.
Jeff Lewis
And you drink a lot of liquids.
Vicki Gunvalson
You need to drink more water. I'm trying. Doing everything right.
Jeff Lewis
How long do you think that parasite is?
Patty Stanger
Well, it's from Morocco four years ago.
Vicki Gunvalson
Well, I. Hopefully he's coming out in pieces. That's what my hope is.
Jeff Lewis
I wonder how big he can grow in four years. Because she had that breakfast buffet four years ago.
Patty Stanger
A tapeworm can get up to 30ft.
Jeff Lewis
Eat.
Shane
It's not a tape.
Vicki Gunvalson
Holy.
Shane
She'd be hungry if it's a tapeworm.
Patty Stanger
That's true. They eat the food.
Vicki Gunvalson
I, I just like the whole thing. Grosses me out. It's really gross. If you start looking and researching tapeworms.
Jeff Lewis
So you don't think she has a tapeworm? You just think she has parasites?
Shane
She has hungry.
Vicki Gunvalson
Well, I'm not hungry.
Shane
No, she's not hungry. And a tapeworm would make her hungry. That's why they used to put. They used to take.
Jeff Lewis
I wonder if I have a tape.
Patty Stanger
You don't have a tapeworm.
Vicki Gunvalson
They make.
Patty Stanger
Make you skinny too.
Vicki Gunvalson
Too.
Shane
Oh, yeah. They eat the fat too. I'm like.
Jeff Lewis
And is it true. Oh, wait real quick. That ch. Those chocolate chip cookies you made.
Vicki Gunvalson
Oh, my God. I made another batch for you and I forgot them this morning.
Patty Stanger
Why would you say that?
Jeff Lewis
Why are you teasing me right now?
Patty Stanger
Shouldn't have even said that.
Jeff Lewis
They are the best chocolate chip cookies. Where did that recipe come from?
Vicki Gunvalson
Well, I said they were mine, but my sister actually added on the cake flour. So you're supposed to do three cups of flour. So Lisa split it up in one and a half cups of cake flour and a half cup or one half cups of regular flour. And I posted it that it was my recipe. She texted me right away, that is not your recipe. That's my recipe. Like, okay, at least it's yours.
Jeff Lewis
So it's a family recipe?
Vicki Gunvalson
Yes, yes. But Mike, we were there for Christmas. And Mike kept going down the kitchen and grabbing the cookies in the middle of the night. She goes, mike, those are for Christmas. And Christmas Eve, you can't eat them all. He's like, I. I can't get enough.
Jeff Lewis
No, no, no. You'd have to lock them up.
Vicki Gunvalson
No, there's.
Jeff Lewis
In the safe. They were so good.
Vicki Gunvalson
I know. I'm going to send some to you. Sorry. I made them.
Jeff Lewis
That's so sweet of you to make them and then leave them.
Vicki Gunvalson
And then we. We came up last night and I forgot him. So sorry about that.
Jeff Lewis
How was the hotel?
Vicki Gunvalson
Beautiful. Okay.
Jeff Lewis
Good.
Vicki Gunvalson
Yeah, it's good. In and out, you know. Got there last night.
Jeff Lewis
Now, I want Vicki to weigh in on this as well. You recently, you officiated 10 weddings in the launderette of love, Right. Will you explain what this is?
Shane
LG Electronics had a special thing for their. What do they call on the washer and the dryer on top of stackable. Stackables. And so, because it's like New York, you know, when you move into a city and it's small apartments, they don't know what to do. And so they. They want just be all about love and, you know, doing your laundry together. And they picked 10 couples. Some were married, some weren't. Some were gay, some were straight. The gay couple is my favorite, by the way. They were my first couple and I married them. Yeah. In front of the High.
Jeff Lewis
So they got married in a laundromat?
Shane
No, they got married on the High Line. You know, when you do, you know New York where. The High Line?
Jeff Lewis
Yes, I do.
Shane
So in front of the High Line, they created this, like, pop up with the stackables in there. Yeah. It was an interesting thing, but it.
Jeff Lewis
Was kind of like a laundry kind of. Could I ask? It was a room with washers and dryers.
Shane
Yeah. But only like one set. They didn't have, like, you know, against the wall, like you were going into a laundromat. It was kind of fun, actually. I loved marrying people.
Jeff Lewis
And then they got a free stackable washer and dryer.
Shane
Yes. Yeah. And some of them were influencers, you know, so they could talk about it on their Pages.
Jeff Lewis
So then if, if. So you show up and you, you get married and Patty Sanger is officiating, and then you get a washer and dryer.
Shane
I didn't get a washer and dryer.
Jeff Lewis
No, but they should.
Shane
I can if I want, but I don't need it. I, I did. They got it. Yeah. Every one of them got one. Yes, correct.
Jeff Lewis
So people are going to get married in a situation like that for a washer and dryer or they get paid.
Shane
They didn't get paid. They only got a washer and dryer. And they were influencers. So a lot of them were influencers. So this is a thing. And you have to understand, a washer and dryer stackable in New York City is a gold mine. It just sets.
Jeff Lewis
How much is the L's LG stackable washer and dryer?
Patty Stanger
It's probably $200.
Jeff Lewis
You get married for. For like $1,500.
Shane
Well, some of them were married and they were renewing their vow, so it wasn't for everybody. Okay, that's like a big deal in New York. But then gay couple didn't have, didn't have a washer and a dryer hookup, and they were really upset.
Patty Stanger
That's what I'm saying. It's a big deal to have like the hookup and have a place to put it, but to have the actual thing you can just buy it from.
Jeff Lewis
I'm guessing you're not marrying Mike for $2,200 washer and dryer.
Vicki Gunvalson
And if you can live in New York, it's expensive to live there. You can't afford a washer dryer because.
Shane
Their washer and dryers are either a outside the building or inside the building. And they're never usually in their apartment unless it's a condo.
Jeff Lewis
I mean, it's a beautiful washer and dryer. I just, I would need more couple.
Shane
Look how cute they are.
Jeff Lewis
I just would need more incentive, I think.
Vicki Gunvalson
I'm not doing that.
Shane
Anyway, I'll have a FYI, it was me marrying them. You know, I am somebody that was kind of. They were really excited for me to marry them.
Vicki Gunvalson
Of course you're somebody.
Jeff Lewis
You didn't get a washer dryer.
Shane
I didn't need one. I can if I want to, but I didn't.
Jeff Lewis
I would take one.
Shane
I got paid instead. Okay, like the big bucks.
Vicki Gunvalson
Get the green.
Shane
I got paid.
Vicki Gunvalson
Was it eft or was it a check? Jeff, we had a good conversation about checks and efts.
Jeff Lewis
Yes.
Vicki Gunvalson
Wiring money.
Jeff Lewis
I came around how many years ago did I finally. Or how many months ago?
Patty Stanger
Like two years ago.
Shane
Shane Yozella's today, where I'm like, I.
Jeff Lewis
Don'T want to write checks anymore. I don't want to. I don't want to chase people down for checks. I want to pay everyone electronically. You were saying Mike still uses checks.
Vicki Gunvalson
Yeah, I saw him. He put the stamp on. He loves to write those checks out. I'm like, this is. You're killing me.
Shane
You know why?
Jeff Lewis
You know why?
Shane
Yeah, checks. Oh, you're kidding. So. But you.
Jeff Lewis
Tim Bagley checks.
Vicki Gunvalson
But you have to understand, nobody uses checks.
Shane
When you write a check, you manifest Adrian Maloof checks.
Jeff Lewis
No, I had to mail it to her mansion.
Vicki Gunvalson
No, stop.
Jeff Lewis
I don't think she's cashing.
Shane
Park mansion. You gotta write a check, too. Great.
Jeff Lewis
Jesus.
Vicki Gunvalson
All right. My bills are eft. I don't even have to ever write a check to Bing, Bing, Bing. They just go out and they go in and they go out and I just.
Jeff Lewis
Yeah, yeah. And you don't have to chase anyone down to cash the check, and the checks don't get lost. Also, do you want to promote COTO insurance?
Vicki Gunvalson
Of course.
Jeff Lewis
Said we should. We should do that because. Vicki.
Patty Stanger
What?
Jeff Lewis
I would. I. I think I knew this, but I asked for your help this morning because I need help with everything. Life insurance, auto insurance, home insurance, liability insurance. And you're going to hook me up and I'm going to have, like, a insurance agency. One agent, Stephanie, who works under you.
Vicki Gunvalson
She does my property in casualty and then things. And then I do all the life insurance with Michael. And more importantly, I do retirement planning. So people over age 55, they come to me. I do women's seminars. My women are coming to me by flocks. Like, just. They're underserved in the financial services industry. So people that are getting ready to retire, ironically, I'm doing a ton of airline employees. Like, we've got these 401ks, they've got these IRAs. They don't know what to do with them, so we're turning them into a pension.
Jeff Lewis
So they go to cotoinsurance.com is that it? And then do they speak to you first or does someone else go through?
Vicki Gunvalson
So for life insurance, they go to Mike. For any type of retirement planning, they go to me.
Jeff Lewis
I see Dwayne in Hollywood. Line three. Ooh, this is looking good for you, Vicki. Yes.
Vicki Gunvalson
Hey, how are you guys working? Morning.
Jeff Lewis
Do you have information for.
Vicki Gunvalson
Amazing. Hey.
Jeff Lewis
On the tapeworm.
Vicki Gunvalson
Yeah. So I was going to suggest Reaching out to Lisa Rena because she started an episode of American Horror Stories where she was a model agent and the model had a tape.
Jeff Lewis
I saw. Saw it.
Vicki Gunvalson
And the episode three, season three.
Jeff Lewis
Oh my God, it was hilarious.
Vicki Gunvalson
How did they get it out?
Jeff Lewis
Well, didn't it come out on its own, Wayne.
Vicki Gunvalson
Out of her mouth? Out of her butt.
Jeff Lewis
Her butt, I think.
Vicki Gunvalson
Yeah. But then it ended up going into her. The roommate.
Jeff Lewis
Oh, yes.
Vicki Gunvalson
It then found episode.
Patty Stanger
It's gonna slide out of you.
Vicki Gunvalson
I'm watching that. No, I'm just gonna say no.
Jeff Lewis
I suggest you watch that tonight.
Vicki Gunvalson
No, I'm gonna go. My sauna. It's going to come out. I'm going to do my colonics and everything's going to be great.
Jeff Lewis
I don't think it's going to come out on its own.
Patty Stanger
I don't think it's going to.
Jeff Lewis
I think we have to coax it out.
Vicki Gunvalson
Yeah. Come on, little bird.
Jeff Lewis
Yeah, I don't think it's.
Vicki Gunvalson
Poor Michael's got a job to do. Next. Come on, Little word.
Jeff Lewis
I mean, it's obviously very comfortable.
Vicki Gunvalson
There it is.
Jeff Lewis
And happy.
Vicki Gunvalson
It loves my body. It just feels like it's safe and it's dark and it's.
Patty Stanger
I love that.
Vicki Gunvalson
God, your hospital. Why am I talking about.
Jeff Lewis
So were you regular until you went to Mercury? Morocco?
Vicki Gunvalson
Pretty much, yeah. I would say every other day. I mean, who poops every day?
Jeff Lewis
Me. Do you poop every day, Shane?
Vicki Gunvalson
Yeah, pretty much.
Jeff Lewis
What about you, Patty?
Vicki Gunvalson
No.
Shane
Twice a day?
Vicki Gunvalson
No.
Shane
I use oxy powder though, so it's.
Jeff Lewis
Does everyone poop every day? I know you do. Jameson, babe?
Vicki Gunvalson
Don't need to ask. It's a yes. That is so weird. I have to sit in there and think about it and then a pellet comes out.
Shane
Oh, my God.
Vicki Gunvalson
Yeah, you're backed up.
Shane
You don't have any fiber.
Vicki Gunvalson
Zero.
Shane
Fiber zero.
Vicki Gunvalson
Urgent. God.
Shane
Yeah.
Jeff Lewis
We've learned a lot about you today.
Patty Stanger
What a lie full of shit.
Jeff Lewis
Thanks for listening. If you want more of this, listen to Jeff Lewis Ladd every weekday on SiriusXM as well as the Jeff Lewis channel, exclusively on the SiriusXM app.
Vicki Gunvalson
Sound of Corona English 15 second Add I c o r e x 25 d r 01 Put your ear to a seashell. You hear the beach.
Jeff Lewis
When you open a Corona, you can taste it.
Vicki Gunvalson
Corona la Playa awaits.
Jeff Lewis
Relax responsibly. Corona Extra beer imported by Crown Import, Chicago, IL.
Vicki Gunvalson
What does possibility mean to you? That's a hard question. Question.
Jeff Lewis
Something that you can strive for.
Shane
I'm able to do anything I set my mind to. You're confident in yourself and you believe in yourself. Stuff that you could achieve. I feel it's Sara. Anything is possible when you're more confident.
Jeff Lewis
Shoes are a huge part of that. They are the most important part of my style.
Shane
You can, like, express yourself in the right shoes. Anything is possible.
Vicki Gunvalson
DSW countless shoes at bragworthy prices. Imagine the possibilities.
Podcast Title: Jeff Lewis Has Issues
Episode: Vicki Gunvalson & Patti Stanger: Parasites & Trophy Wives
Host: SiriusXM - Jeff Lewis
Release Date: August 6, 2025
In this riveting episode of "Jeff Lewis Has Issues," host Jeff Lewis engages in an unfiltered and candid conversation with longtime personalities Vicki Gunvalson and Patti Stanger. The trio delves deep into personal challenges, health struggles, the tumultuous world of reality TV, and the complexities of maintaining luxurious lifestyles. Interspersed with humor and heartfelt moments, the episode offers listeners an intimate glimpse into the lives of these reality TV veterans.
Jeff Lewis kicks off the conversation by sharing exciting news about his recent move into a new condo, embracing what he describes as the "Hollywood Versailles lifestyle."
Luxury Amenities: Jeff highlights the upscale features of his new residence, including valet parking, a doorman, a pool, and a state-of-the-art gym.
Patti Stanger [01:28]: "I love the elevators, the doorman. There's someone to take my packages up. It was just really luxurious."
Social Invitations: Patti extends an open invitation to his new abode, emphasizing the convenience and luxury of not having to handle parking themselves.
Patti Stanger [01:39]: "If you guys want to come over, you don't have to park yourself."
Shane, Jeff's son, expresses his eagerness to visit the new condo, adding a familial warmth to the discussion.
A significant portion of the episode recounts a harrowing incident that occurred during a Fourth of July bike ride, which swiftly turned from a celebratory outing to a traumatic experience.
The Incident: Vicki describes being on a tandem bike ride with her partner, Mike, when they were unexpectedly attacked with what she initially refers to as a "slingshot" but later humorously admits might have been water balloons.
Vicki Gunvalson [04:30]: "It was like the water was coming at us from all sides. We were just trying to get through."
Physical Injuries: Vicki recounts sustaining a bruise near her ear, a vulnerable area due to previous surgeries.
Vicki Gunvalson [05:33]: "It was on my right ear, which I've had eight surgeries on. So this whole side of my head is not normal."
Emotional Impact: The attack left the group traumatized, fostering feelings of fear and distrust towards those orchestrating such events.
Vicki Gunvalson [07:43]: "We were traumatized. We were all like, that was a buzz kill."
Jeff reflects on his role during the incident, noting how he shielded Vicki and managed to navigate the situation despite the chaos.
Following the traumatic event, Vicki opens up about ongoing health issues, revealing a battle with parasites believed to have been contracted during a trip to Morocco.
Symptoms and Diagnosis:
Vicki Gunvalson [24:29]: "I'm doing colonics now. Now even Michael said the other day, you are not the same since you've been back from Morocco."
Treatment Efforts: Vicki discusses the rigorous regimen she's adhering to, including colonics and medication, yet she remains frustrated with persistent symptoms.
Vicki Gunvalson [25:34]: "I'm loaded with parasites in my gut. I knew something was wrong."
Emotional Strain: The health struggles add another layer of stress, compounded by her responsibilities and commitments.
Vicki Gunvalson [25:50]: "I think he's been growing a long time."
Jeff and Shane interject with supportive and humorous remarks, lightening the heavy topic while acknowledging Vicki's resilience.
The trio shifts focus to discuss their perspectives on the contemporary landscape of "Real Housewives of Orange County."
Storyline Authenticity: They express skepticism about the authenticity of current storylines, suggesting that the show relies heavily on manufactured drama rather than genuine experiences.
Vicki Gunvalson [20:43]: "They have no storyline. So then you have to make things up. You got to create shit."
Character Development: There's a critical take on the portrayal of "trophy wives," questioning their purpose beyond creating conflict and drama.
Shane [20:33]: "Their purpose in business is to rile people up and, like, start drama."
Ratings and Longevity: The conversation touches upon declining ratings and the recyclability of characters to maintain viewer interest.
Shane [19:01]: "Next Gen has really good ratings, but I don't care. I'm excited for you could say."
Vicki reminisces about the show's peak popularity and laments its current direction, yearning for more authentic and inspirational narratives.
Amidst serious discussions, the episode is peppered with humorous and light-hearted segments that showcase the camaraderie and playful dynamics among the guests.
Live Reading of Titanic Script: In a delightful interlude, Jeff organizes a live reading of a "Titanic" script, with Vicki and Patti enthusiastically participating.
Jeff Lewis [32:39]: "Vicki, you'll be reading for the part of Jack and Patti, you'll be reading for Rose. Are you ready ladies?"
Vicki Gunvalson [32:40]: "Let's go."
The heartfelt performance garners praise from all participants, highlighting their acting chops and genuine emotions.
Sauna and Colonics Discussion: Vicki humorously details her experiences with infrared saunas and colonics, blending health advice with personal anecdotes.
Vicki Gunvalson [37:00]: "So I clean it. You can do vinegar and water. You can do the Young Living clean that."
Cooking Mishaps: Vicki shares a funny story about mistakenly leaving chocolate chip cookies out, leading to her husband Mike devouring them all during Christmas.
Vicki Gunvalson [40:24]: "They're both Chanel, but they were different. One had sequins, one didn't. And they were both vintage."
These moments provide a balanced mix of humor and vulnerability, creating a relatable and engaging narrative.
The discussion takes a professional turn as Jeff introduces his plans to venture into the insurance industry, seeking Vicki's expertise.
COTO Insurance Services:
Vicki Gunvalson [48:27]: "I do retirement planning. So people over age 55, they come to me. I do women's seminars."
Business Collaboration: Jeff expresses his intention to partner with Vicki, envisioning a streamlined insurance agency targeting specific demographics.
Jeff Lewis [47:17]: "I need help with everything. Life insurance, auto insurance, home insurance, liability insurance."
Vicki outlines the comprehensive services offered by COTO Insurance, emphasizing personalized financial planning and retirement solutions.
As the episode draws to a close, the guests reflect on their discussions, sharing final thoughts and expressing mutual support.
Handling Personal Struggles: Vicki candidly talks about her ongoing health battles, encouraging listeners to prioritize their well-being.
Vicki Gunvalson [50:01]: "Don't need to ask. It's a yes. That is so weird. I have to sit in there and think about it and then a pellet comes out."
Encouragement and Humor: The group wraps up with humorous banter about parasites and personal quirks, leaving listeners with a blend of laughter and empathy.
Patti Stanger [50:15]: "What a lie full of shit."
Patti Stanger: "I love the elevators, the doorman. There's someone to take my packages up. It was just really luxurious."
[01:28]
Vicki Gunvalson: "It was on my right ear, which I've had eight surgeries on. So this whole side of my head is not normal."
[05:33]
Vicki Gunvalson: "They have no storyline. So then you have to make things up. You got to create shit."
[20:43]
Shane: "Their purpose in business is to rile people up and, like, start drama."
[20:33]
Jeff Lewis: "I need help with everything. Life insurance, auto insurance, home insurance, liability insurance."
[47:17]
Vicki Gunvalson: "I do retirement planning. So people over age 55, they come to me. I do women's seminars."
[48:27]
Vicki Gunvalson: "I have to sit in there and think about it and then a pellet comes out."
[50:01]
This episode of "Jeff Lewis Has Issues" masterfully intertwines serious discussions about personal trauma and health with lighter, humorous moments, offering a well-rounded and engaging narrative. Jeff Lewis, along with Vicki Gunvalson and Patti Stanger, provides listeners with an authentic look into their lives, tackling both their struggles and triumphs with honesty and wit. Whether discussing the highs of a new luxurious lifestyle or the lows of unexpected health issues, the trio ensures a captivating and relatable experience for their audience.