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Hello, this is Jensen Franklin, and thank you so much for joining us for this week's podcast. Our goal is to provide you with biblically based teachings that will challenge, inspire, and equip you to live for Jesus. If you haven't already, I'd love for you to go ahead and subscribe today to this podcast so you can get the latest updates from us and you don't ever have to miss a new message. Let's go right into the service. Record it at Freechapel. I believe it's going to bless you today in the Book of Matthew, chapter 18. I'll begin reading with verse one. At that time the disciples came to Jesus saying, who then is greatest in the kingdom of heaven? Then Jesus called. I want you to notice how many times he says little child. These verses Jesus called a little child to him and set him in the midst of them and said assuredly, I say unto you, unless you are converted and become as a little child, you will by no means enter into the kingdom of heaven. Therefore, whoever humbles themselves as a little child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. Whoever receives one little child like this in my name receives me. And then a stern warning in verse 6 but whoever calls is one of these little ones who believe in me to sin. It would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were drowned in the depth of the sea. Woe unto the world because of offenses. For offenses must come, but woe to the man by whom the offense comes. He's still referring to children, to offending children, to hurting, abusing, harming, and even leading children in the wrong direction. Verse 8 if your hand or foot causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you. It is better for you to enter into life lame or maimed. So interesting to me that this text is attached to how we treat children in a time when children are being abused, in a time when children are being molested, in a time when pornography is flooding and we're seeing a pandemic of child abuse and molestation. He says, it would be better for you to cut off your hand and it be cast from you, and for you to better for you to enter into life lame and maimed rather than having two hands and two feet to be cast into everlasting fire. And if your eye if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and cast it from you. It is better for you to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire. Take heed that you do not despise one of these little ones. You harm, you mislead, you, you, you. You Take heed. For I say to you that in heaven, they're angels. Always. They have an assigned angel, and they are recording. And they see the face of my Father who is in heaven. For the Son of Man has come to save that which was lost. I want to talk to you for a few moments. I'll give you my title a little later, but I want to start. I'm going to make two quick points and bring it home. The first point that I want to make to you is number one. This is a teaching of Jesus Christ. And this text was given to us by Jesus Christ. And whatever you do, I want to preach this. Whatever you do, you don't want to go to hell. That's my first point. Whatever you do, I want you to. I want you to hear this emphasis. You really don't want to go to hell. In Luke 16, Jesus Christ. Again, the text, the story, the reference. He already referred to hell in the verse I just read. But in Luke 16, and I want to read it so bad. But I'll sum it up. I want to read it. I want to read it, and I'm going to read it. Verse 19, Luke 16. Jesus is speaking. Why is that important? Because no one knows more about hell and heaven than Jesus Christ. And when he preached, this is what he preached. And he said, there was a certain rich man who was clothed in purple and fine linen, fared sumptuously every day. But there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, full of sores, who was laid at his gate, desiring to be fed with the crumbs that fell from the rich man's table. Moreover, the dogs came and licked his sores. So it was that the beggar died, and this is precious was carried by angels. The beggar died and was carried by angels to Abraham's bosom or paradise. And the rich man also died and was buried. So the poor man died. He didn't have much in this world, but he was carried by angels. The rich man who had everything died. And he was buried, he was not carried. And being in torment in hell, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off and Lazarus in his bosom. Then he cried and said, father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, for I am tormented in this flame. This is Jesus teaching. And Abraham said, son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things. And likewise Lazarus Evil things. But now he is comforted and you are tormented. And besides all of this, between us there is a great gulf fixed. So that those who want to pass from here to you cannot, nor can those from pass to us. Then he said, I beg you. Therefore I beg you. A man in hell begging that you would send him to my father's house. For I have five brothers that he may. That he may testify to them. That they also. Lest they also should come to this place of torment. Abraham said to him, they have Moses and the prophets. Let them hear them. In other words, the Word is clear. And he said, no, Father Abraham, but if one goes to them from the dead, they will repent. He said, if they do not hear Moses and the prophets the Word. And neither will they be persuaded though one raise from the dead. You really don't want to go to hell. The beggar died and was carried. The rich man died and was buried. The first point I want to make is the poor man did not go to heaven because he was poor. The rich man did not go to hell because he was rich. That is not what the Scripture teaches. If anybody goes to heaven, they do not go because of anything they bring to the picture. The reason the poor man went to heaven is because the poor man loved God. Served God the best he could with what he had. He was a man who lived for God. And I think there's a hidden message in this. Just because you live for God does not mean that your life will all go good. I think that if this man went to heaven, he. He obeyed God and lived for God the best that he could. Which means he was not a bomb, a bum that's living in the street. And like. Like somebody who doesn't try. He knew to work. He knew the teachings of the scripture. He knew to. To. To go provide for himself. I believe that he became sick. I believe not only did he become sick, but he lost everything that he had. He lost his home, he lost everything. And he was reduced to nothing but a dying man on the street begging for some crumbs from a rich man's table. And he did not go to heaven because he was poor. He went to heaven because he was living for God. If the Bible teaches anything, it teaches nothing of our works, causes us to go to heaven. It's only by the grace of God in our heart that loves God. He got sick. The hard times came and he died. He died. And the Bible said in his sickest state that he was so sick the dogs licked his sores and he was hungry. The rich man, the Bible said, died and lifted up his eyes in hell being in torment. Riches do not send people to hell unless they are deceived by those riches, unless they do not put God first. This man became arrogant. This man became intrinsic. This man became apathetic. This man became ugly and mean and hard hearted and evil and proud and arrogant. So much so that he could see someone suffering and not even give them a crust of the bread that he had plenty of. He was lost and he refused to get right. He refused to get right. He knew the truth and he refused. He was trusting in his riches and in his wealth and in his money. And Lazarus dies with dogs licking his sores. He's no longer in pain. He's no longer in suffering. He's carried by angels to paradise, to Abraham's bosom, and he is comforted. But the rich man looks across a great gulf or body of water, a river perhaps, and he. There is a separation between. This is, this is before the resurrection, that when people died living for God, they went to a holding place called paradise, a place of comfort, a place that is pleasant. And Abraham's bosom, it's called in this text. And he cries out and he lifts up his eyes being in torment. Jesus said it. See, a lot of people want to dismiss this kind of preaching. A lot of people want to say there's no hell, there's no heaven. But I want to just remind you the same Bible that has prophecies that a virgin would bring forth a child in a city called Bethlehem, that's the same Jesus that said these words about eternity. The same Bible that tells us that one day that Israel would be reborn In Matthew chapter 24, the nation of Israel would come back like a blossoming tree. And in May 1948, Israel was reborn. The same Bible that prophesies in the book of Ezekiel 37 and 38 that three nations will be in the front headlines of the whole world. Russia, China, Iran. They will form a confederation and they will. God will put a hook in their jaw. It may. I don't know what that hook is, but they will attack. Israel and Iran has been quietened down thanks to our wonderful military who did an amazing thing in securing nuclear weapons for our. For our children and children's children. But. But that formation is still happening. Do not be deceived. Same Bible that predicts in the Book of Revelation that. I can't believe it. I mean, the same Bible that, that predicts in the Book of Revelation that there will come an antichrist and there will come a computer system. There will come an image of the beast. I believe that's artificial intelligence that will so come forth and it will control the whole world. And men will not to buy or sell without taking the mark of the beast. 666 and. And all of these things are prophesied. And the same Savior who has shared those revelations in book because he is the author and the finisher of our faith, it all came from him. He said, there is after this life, life in heaven and life in hell. And you choose and whatever you do, you really don't want to go to hell. And he asks this man in torment said, let Lazarus dip his finger in water, for I thirst and just let him touch my tongue. Just let me feel some relief of the anguish and the pain. And Abraham said, no one can pass this great gulf. No one once you're there, can get out and escape. He said, let it. Let him go then and warn my brothers that that are following in my footstep steps. They're living just like me. I've influenced them. You go warn them. Please let him go warn them. And Abraham said, no. They if they won't hear the prophets and they won't hear the preaching, then not even one raised from the dead. Some people are so set on going to hell, they know they're dying and they still have that spirit of rebellion and resistance. Whatever you do, you don't want to go to hell. But I'm preaching this morning that there is something worse than going to hell. There's something worse that is worse than the fire and the pain and the weeping and the flame and the torment and the thirst and the weeping and gnashing of teeth. The there's something worse than forever being separated from God and good. And for spirit spending eternity in torment, there's something even worse than hell, and that is seeing your family in hell because you led them there. They followed in your footsteps. To me, as horrible as the flames, as horrible as the lake of fire, as horrible as the torment, as horrible as all of the descriptions of hell that we're given. The only thing worse than hell is to see your family there. Because you led them by your actions to that place. I want to read one more verse while I'm reading in the book of Revelation. It's an amazing verse and it warns us that if we don't walk with God and we don't live for God and we don't serve God. It says, then I saw a great white throne and him who sat on it, the face of the earth. This is Revelation 20:11. And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God. And the books were opened. And another book was opened, which was the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works by the things which were written in the books. The sea gave up her dead who were in it. And Death and Hell delivered up their dead who were there with them. And they were judged, each one according to his works. Then Death and Hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. Listen now. Verse 15. And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire. The setting is described. A summons is delivered. The whole population of mankind stands before the Great White Throne. But I won't be there. And by God's grace, my family won't ever stand before the Great White Throne. Cause we settled out of court. I decided I'm not going to stand before the judgment seat of God. I'm settling out of court. I say Jesus is my Savior. Every knee will bow, every tongue will confess. And whatever you do, you don't want to go to hell. But the only thing worse than going to hell is if you take your family with you because of your hard heart. That's the first part of my sermon. I just finished with an Exclamation point point 1. I want you to look at somebody and say, you really don't want to go to hell. Now tell them this. You really do want to go to heaven. All right, now let's change gears. Let me tell you where I'm going. And as for me and my house, hallelujah, we will serve the Lord. I'm not going to lead my family to hell. I'm going to lead them to heaven. You really want to go to heaven? Revelation 21, verses 4 through 5 says that when we get to heaven, God shall wipe all tears from their eyes. There shall be no more death, neither crying, neither shall there be any more pain. The former things are passed away. And he that sat upon the throne said, behold, I make all things new. He said unto me, write these things, for they are true and they are faithful. Let the people forget that this life is not just about here and now, but we're headed into eternity. And you need to know Heaven is real, Heaven is true. God will wipe every tear from your eye. And he will make all things new. Everybody shout. I want to go to heaven. I want you to think with me for just a moment. Give me your mind, give me your imagination. There will be no more War in heaven. There will be no more death. There will be no more sorrow. There will be no more funeral homes. There will be no more police departments. There will be no more jailhouses. There will be no more prisoners. There will be no more mental health centers. There will be no more depression. There will be no more suicide. There will be no more politics. Because the king of kings is going to rule and reign. There'll be no more lying. There'll be no more dissension. There'll be no emptiness. There'll be no loneliness. There'll be no heartbreak. There'll be no tears. There'll be no anguish. There'll be no grief. There'll be no poverty. There'll be no hunger. There'll be no needs. There will be no graveyards. When we all get to heaven. There will be no addictions. There will be no stress. There will be no alcoholics. There will be no drug addicts. There will be no anxiety. There will be no fear. There will be no divorce. There will be no broken homes. Hallelujah. There will be no thievery. There will be no fraud. There will be no abductions. There will be no kidnappings. There will be no murder. There will be no rapes. There will be no paralysis. There will be no prostitution. There will be no sex trafficking. There will be no more floods. There will be no more fires. There will be no more earthquakes. There will be no more tsunamis. There will be no more failure. There will be no more sin. Hallelujah. It's defeated. There will be no more disappointments. There will be no more orphans and orphanages. There will be no more abandonment. There will be no more disease. There will be no more sickness. There will be no more headaches. There will be more. No more toothaches. There will be. How long you gonna go? As long as I want. There will be no more cancer. There will be no more diabetes. There will be no more heart disease. There will be no more melanoma tumors. There will be no more cripples, blindness. There will be no more deafness. That's where I want to go. Heaven is going to be wonderful. Give the Lord a praise. Oh, I want to see him. Hallelujah. Whoo. Did you know that the human eye can see 1 million colors? The reason they say that is there's a. There's a difference in shades of colors. And constantly your eye has to adjust that. Just like if you put shade on something, you see something different every time those lighting changes. And you can see up to 1 million colors. I didn't Even know it was that many colors out there. But there are some people who have a rare condition who can see 7 million colors. And there's a few, a small number of humans that can see because of a genetic mutation in their eyes. They can see a staggering 100 million colors. Paul was taken on a personal tour of heaven and he came back to earth and he said, eyes have not seen. Can you imagine what we will see when we get over yonder? Can you imagine streets of gold, the Bible said. Gates of pearl, walls of Jasper. The Bible said that there will be a great capital city called New Jerusalem. And it'll be 12 foundations high made of yah different colored precious stones and rubies. And everything there will be pristine and beautiful. I want to see the colors of heaven. I want to see the gardens of heaven. Do you know that you've never seen a sunset that still didn't have the fog of the curse on it? I don't care how beautiful. If you've been to the mountains during the fall and you've seen the trees turning and it's stunning and the sunlight hitting it, but. But it's still under the curse. The Jewish rabbis teach that in the millennium even the. Even the rocks will glow with the glory of God. Can you imagine when the curse is finally broken? That's why the Bible said we have earthquakes when we had one in Russia 8.8 this week. And the earth groans saying get me. I want to go back to the Garden of Eden. I remember when I didn't have a curse. I remember when I could give glory to God in fullness and get. Come, come back Lord Jesus. Even so, come Lord Jesus. I want to see the colors of the forest and the streams. I want to see the rainbow colors with my 100 million colored eyes. I want to hear the music because Paul said ears have not heard. I want to hear the songs of David being sung. I want to hear the great musicians who died trusting the Lord. I want to see them on the other side. But I want to hear them sing with angels in perfect harmony, glorifying. I want to hear those violins. 120,000. The book of Revelation said I should say 144,000. With hearts and vowels in their hand, violins playing. I want want to hear the music of heaven. I want to hear the choirs. I want to hear the trumpets sounding. I want to hear the musicians the perfect harmony. I can't wait. I want to see the capital city of new Jerusalem built four square meaning 1500 miles high and 1500 miles wide. And then 12 foundations of that. If you were to stretch just the capital city, New Jerusalem, over America, it would stretch from New Jersey all the way down to Miami, 1500 miles. And from the Atlantic Ocean all the way over to the Mississippi, 1500 miles. And then stack it on top of each other 1500 miles higher, it's six times further out than the International Space station. That is 250 miles from Earth. 12 foundations. Streets of gold. Gates of pearl. I want to go there. The Bible said that nothing shall by any means enter in that defiles that city. Only those whose names are written in the book of life. And I want to propose to you in closing that there's something better than heaven. There's something better than streets of gold. And the family reunion with those who've gone ahead. There's something better than that. There's something better than its beauty. And that's when you see your family there. And they're there partly because as you follow Jesus, you lift them up. Footprints. And they followed Christ as you left the footprints. No wonder the text warns us. Don't you abuse the children. Don't you keep them away from me. Suffer the little children. You lead them and grow up and let them follow your footsteps to the Bible. And follow your footsteps to the altar. And follow your footsteps to the word of God. And follow your footsteps to the house of God. And you didn't have to come to church, but I promise you, you're leaving an indention in the spiritual sand for generations to come. And Mama was in the choir singing, and some bill was playing. And it may look like it's not having an effect, but the Bible lets us know that surely God will deal with our children and our children's children if we choose Jesus, if we choose heaven. Watch this. Deuteronomy 30. This is what it says. This day I call the heavens and earth as a witness against you that I have set before you life and death. I'm going to throw this in heaven and hell. Blessings and cursings. Now. Now this very service, this very moment. Now choose life. But here's what got me. Here's where I missed it. I don't know how I missed this so that you. It's personal. But notice what the promise is. And your children, your offspring, your generations may live telling you you're leaving footprints to heaven or to hell. There's something worse than hell that's taking your family there. There's something better than heaven that's taking your family there. And sometimes, as a mom and as a dad, the greatest way you teach your children is through your failure. Yours when they see you fault when they see you as just a mere person who makes mistakes too. But you repent. You keep coming to church, you keep coming to the altar. You might have had a hellish week, but you just keep coming to Jesus. I'm telling you, you need to see the long view about this thing. You don't need to just live for here and now. You need to see the long view. There's something better than heaven and it's seeing your family there. There's something worse than hell is seen taking your family there because you were hard hearted. It. Do you believe that? Everybody just put your hand on your heart and say, jesus, I choose life. I choose heaven. I choose you. You are the way. There's no other way. You are the truth. There is no other truth. You are the life. And Lord, I choose you for me and for my family. Keep me on the straight and narrow when I fall, when I fail. I got, I got to close this like I want to. I was thinking about David. David, we could say, left some amazing lessons for us. He taught us how to kill a giant. He taught us how to write songs and worship and praise. What a contribution. He established the city of Jerusalem. That's a great, that's enough legacy. But you know what I think? I think the greatest lesson that David ever taught is after he fell and he messed up with Bathsheba, he wrote Psalms 51. The whole Psalm is, Cast me not away from your presence. Take, take not thine Holy Spirit from me. Cover me with your tender mercy and your grace. Restore unto me the joy of my salvation. O God, cleanse me. Cleanse me against you and you only. Have I sinned, I repent. And you know what he was doing? He was teaching us that there is a God who forgives a parent who has failed. And I told them in the first service, my little Courtney sitting down here, and when she was a little bitty thing, but just learning to walk, I took a belt, my belt off. I don't know why, I had a little mean streak, I think, but I took the belt and put it around her and, and, and, and she wouldn't let go of the coffee table to come to the couch to me. So I put the belt around her and I just kind of pulled her and she stumbled and she failed. But she took her first step that way and then it was on. It wasn't long before, and I remember this in all my children, they, they would start with taking that. And it was wobbly and it was weak and it was pitiful. But I also noticed that wherever I went, if I went in the kitchen, they followed my footsteps the best they could. If I went to the bedroom, they would follow me to the bedroom. I would hear pitty pat, pitty pat. I'd hear bam. And they fell over, but they would get back up. But you know what I'm talking about. Do you understand what I'm trying to say to you? That maybe the greatest abuse that we can ever offer a child is, as the text said, that. That they wanted to follow me, but you taught them to sin. That's why. That's why I ain't going. I'm just not going to do some things. I know I have grace, but I'm. I'm not going to be a drinker. I'm not going to be a partier, I'm not going to be a drugger. I'm not going to be a. A clubber. I'm not going. I'm not going to flirt. I'm not going to have affairs. I'm not going. There's no grace for that, by the way, but I'm not going. There's forgiveness for that if you repent, but if you stay in it, that's what I'm preaching this morning. You're leaving footprints. I really want to say thank you for joining us this week. If you haven't already, make sure you click on the subscription button and leave us a review. It helps this podcast reach even more people when you comment, when you give us your feedback. For more messages and inspirational materials, download the Jensen Franklin app or you can head over to JensenFranklin.org I want to thank all of you who give generously to help us produce weekly content like this to reach the world with the message of Jesus. God bless you, and we'll see you next time.
Host: Jentezen Franklin
Podcast: Jentezen Franklin at Free Chapel
Date: August 4, 2025
In this impactful sermon, Jentezen Franklin addresses the critical choice every person faces between life and death, heaven and hell, not only for themselves but also for their children and future generations. Franklin’s central message: Our decisions have spiritual consequences that ripple through our entire families, making it imperative that we "choose life." Drawing from the teachings of Jesus in Matthew 18, the parable of the rich man and Lazarus (Luke 16), and passages from Revelation and Deuteronomy, he emphasizes the reality of eternity, the dangers of leading children astray, and the urgent hope and promise of heaven.
Protection and Influence:
Franklin highlights Jesus' warnings against harming or leading children astray. Citing Matthew 18, he stresses that children have angels watching over them, and the consequences for causing them to stumble are dire.
Quote:
"Take heed that you do not despise one of these little ones...in heaven, their angels always...see the face of my Father." — Jentezen Franklin (03:34)
Modern Relevance:
Franklin connects these verses to today's issues: abuse, molestation, and the widespread influence of harmful content on children.
"So interesting...that this text is attached to how we treat children in a time when children are being abused...We're seeing a pandemic of child abuse and molestation." (05:10)
Jesus’ Warnings:
The host asserts that the biblical warnings about hell come directly from Jesus, emphasizing their seriousness.
The Story of the Rich Man & Lazarus (Luke 16):
"Whatever you do, you don't want to go to hell." (15:02)
"The poor man did not go to heaven because he was poor. The rich man did not go to hell because he was rich." (19:55)
The Unchangeable State After Death:
"If they do not hear Moses and the prophets...neither will they be persuaded though one rise from the dead." (25:01)
Broader Impact:
Franklin argues that there's one thing worse than going to hell—leading your family there by example.
"There's something worse than going to hell...it's seeing your family there because you led them by your actions." (28:40)
Personal Responsibility as Parents:
Emphasizes leading children and families toward life, blessing, and godliness.
"As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord. I'm not going to lead my family to hell. I'm going to lead them to heaven." (32:01)
Revelation 21's Vision of Heaven:
Franklin paints a vivid picture of heaven based on Scripture—no more pain, tears, or sorrow.
"When we get to heaven, God shall wipe all tears from their eyes; there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, nor pain." (34:12)
A Place Without Suffering:
He lists in detail all the things absent in heaven: war, death, grief, addiction, sickness, etc.
"There will be no more depression, no more suicide, no more politics...no more broken homes. Hallelujah." (37:20)
Heaven’s Beauty and Wonder:
From seeing unimaginable colors to hearing heavenly music, he invites listeners to imagine the joys of eternity.
"Can you imagine what we will see when we get over yonder? Streets of gold, gates of pearl, walls of jasper..." (41:10)
Footprints for the Next Generation:
Franklin emphasizes that parents leave spiritual footprints—either toward heaven or hell.
"You're leaving footprints to heaven or to hell. There's something worse than hell, that's taking your family there. There's something better than heaven, that's taking your family there." (51:08)
Repentance and Example Through Failure:
Even in failure, parents can demonstrate to children how to return to God (“teach through your failure”).
Franklin’s Own Children:
Shares a story about teaching his daughter to walk, likening it to how children follow their parents' footsteps in life—sometimes stumbling, but learning through example.
"Wherever I went...my children would follow my footsteps the best they could...You understand what I'm trying to say? Maybe the greatest abuse is teaching your children to sin by your example." (58:10)
Call to Righteous Living:
Describes his personal resolve to avoid behaviors—drinking, drugs, infidelity—that could lead children astray.
"I'm not going to be a drinker...not going to be a partier...because you're leaving footprints." (01:02:35)
On Eternal Choices:
"Whatever you do, you really don’t want to go to hell, but even more so, you don’t want to take your family there because you led them by your actions." (28:40)
On Heaven’s Reality:
"Heaven is real. Heaven is true. God will wipe every tear from your eye, and he will make all things new." (34:15)
On Leading Family:
"Let them follow your footsteps to the Bible, to the altar, to the Word of God, to the house of God." (52:52)
On Repentance:
"He was teaching us that there is a God who forgives a parent who has failed...restore unto me the joy of my salvation." (55:22)
Jentezen Franklin’s message is a passionate and urgent call for individuals—especially parents—to recognize the eternal spiritual stakes of their choices. He urges listeners to embrace God’s grace, lead their families toward life and blessing, and leave a legacy of faith. The choice is set before everyone: life or death, blessing or cursing, heaven or hell—and our families often follow in our footsteps.
"Jesus, I choose life. I choose heaven. I choose you—for me and for my family." (57:55)