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Although “Jesuitical” is often recorded over drinks, longtime listeners know that the hosts abstain from alcohol during Lent, which means there’s no better time to welcome Derek Brown to the show. He’s an award-winning mixologist, the founder of Positive Damage Inc., and an expert on no- and low-alcohol cocktails and mindful drinking. Derek joins Zac and Ashley for an enlightening conversation about drinking, its place in our culture and evaluating its place in our lives.

They discuss:

Derek’s journey from award-winning bartender to mindful drinking advocate—and how his faith informed that decision

Why it seems like so many people today are re-evaluating their relationship with alcohol

Tips for taking a more mindful approach to drinking

Links from the Show

Confessions of a Catholic Bartender

Derek’s Positive Damage substack

What’s on tap?

Pinch hitters (0% ABV—it’s still Lent!)

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A Catholic bartender’s conversion to ‘mindful drinking’