This week on a special episode of “Jesuitical,” Ashley and Sam Sawyer, S.J., president and editor in chief of America, have a conversation with David French, political commentator and opinion columnist at The New York Times, about the complex relationship between Christianity and politics during the Trump administration.

Ashley, Father Sawyer and David discuss:

- David’s journey as a never-Trump evangelical Christian

- The future identity of Christianity in the United States

- How Christians should respond to events like the killings in Minneapolis

Links for further reading:

A Christian Answer to Trump and Trumpism Is Finally Here

Trump Is No Longer the Most Important American

David’s Podcast: “Advisory Opinions”

Twin Cities pastors preach on the killing of Alex Pretti: ‘We are walking in darkness and living in fear’

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David French on Christianity and the MAGA movement