This week on “Jesuitical,” Ashley and Zac speak with Ryan Burge, author of the “Graphs about Religion” Substack and the new book, The Vanishing Church: How the Hollowing Out of Moderate Congregations Is Hurting Democracy, Faith, and Us. They discuss the polarization of U.S. Christianity and the supposed Gen-Z “religious revival.”

In Signs of the Times, Ashley and Zac discuss some highlights from Pope Leo’s trip to Africa; what Pope Leo called the not-exactly-accurate media narrative around him and President Trump; and the first anniversary of Pope Francis’ death.

00:00 A Gen-Z religious revival? 3:38 Highlights of Pope Leo's trip to Africa 10:05 VP Vance questions Pope Leo's theology 20:37 Remembering Pope Francis 22:50 Moderate Christianity is vanishing 25:49 U.S. religion is coded "conservative" 34:54 Catholic demographic trends 37:15 Political implications 40:53 Are young people going back to church? 48:18 Winner churches 52:56 Gen-Z religious trads 1:04:08 Faith Sharing: Pope Francis' humble tomb

Links:

⁠Order Ryan’s book, The Vanishing Church⁠

⁠Graphs about Religion⁠

⁠Pope Leo walks in the footsteps of St. Augustine in Hippo⁠

⁠Pope Leo denounces those who use the name God for military gain⁠

⁠Pope Leo named one of Time magazine’s ‘100 Most Influential People of 2026’⁠

⁠Pope Leo remembers ‘the great gift’ of Pope Francis on the first anniversary of his death⁠

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