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I'm in an undisclosed location in Nigeria right now. I just had one of the most interesting conversations of my life with Reverend Ezekiel Dachimo, who's considered by Nigerian Christians to be Nigeria's pastor because of his courage. A bounty has been placed on his head by the terrorists. And just two nights ago, there was an assassination attempt on his life. He is one of the only, if not the only, Christian pastor speaking out about the Christian genocide happening right now. And what you're about to hear is going to be powerful. It's going to be moving, it's going to be shocking, it's going to be heart wrenching for some. So I would warn you, if you're a more sensitive person, maybe consider skipping this episode because of Reverend Ezekiel's tight schedule. He had to drive throughout the night to be with us and we're filming this episode after midnight. And I would also tell you because of his thick Nigerian accent, I would encourage you to watch this episode to see the subtitles of what he has to say. I've spent the last week here in Nigeria meeting with persecuted Christians who have fled. I've seen and heard things that will change my life forever. But this conversation I just had with Reverend Ezekiel is one of the most important conversations I've ever had in my life. So I would encourage you watch this, listen to this, and send this to someone you love. Be praying and fasting for the Nigerian church. They are some of the most amazing Christians I have ever met in my entire life. Enjoy this episode of the Jesus People. What is going to solve this? What will stop these killings in Nigeria?
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We are the wounded one. We are in pain.
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Why is it that the persecuted seem to have a different type of Christianity than every other type of Christianity?
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Look at the war that is taking place in America today. Islam is moving very fast. When you fail to stand with your neighbor, God will neglect you.
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You said that the Democrats were implementing Muslim leaders in Nigeria. How do you know that?
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Because the danger that I see coming that God shows me it's better for me to die now.
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How did Nigeria become the deadliest place on the planet for Christians to live? Reverend, it's an honor to be with you today.
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Thank you very much.
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You are a hero of the faith and we are praying for you all the time in America.
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It's all credited to the power of the Holy Spirit that is at work in my life.
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Amen. Amen.
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Amen.
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Amen. Well, I'd love for you to tell me a bit about yourself. I'd love for you to tell me how did you grow up? How did you find the Lord? And how did you find the power that you now have?
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My testimony before coming across Jesus Christ was rough. I lost my father when I was six years old. So I grown up in such a way that it was very rough living from one house to another. I have to run to leave home. I was staying in the jungle, sleeping outside. I was an associate of armed robbers in those days. Early 80s, before 80s. So we are the ruffians. Live our life without God in our soul. We don't even trust God. Richest state in smoking India Hem. I have the paper has spoiled. I have to remove a page from the Bible to mould Indian hair and smoke. So I've gone far. Serving Satan. Satan was controlling my life with 14 demons. I was just serving Satan without me knowing it. Sometimes I'll go to the thick of the midst of the forest. I would just stay there smoking almost one packet of cigarette to finish at midnight to 4am in the forest. Because the demons lead me to that place. But God make it 1985. I come across Jesus. Came personally into my room while I was sleeping. I didn't know that I was operating with 14 demons until Jesus encountered me that night. There was war. He came with seven angels. I was just an observer seeing the drama that is being done on my life. Jesus ordered the seven angels to strike the enemy. In fact they were killed instantly. I took the covers of those images that were killed. I covered myself as if I'm dead. But the master Jesus said there was somebody that we have not killed. Go fish him out. When they were coming putting other cops. Then I have to stand up and begin to beg. I was asking for forgiveness. Forgive me, Forgive me. I will never do it again. Because I went in 1980 is our gang that robbed a bank in Joss Plateau State, Nigeria 1980. They make away with a lot of money. It was my best friend that led the operation. I didn't know that I would come and encountered God. And God really helped me. That day that I encountered Jesus. I went outside. I tried my best to smoke cigarette. I couldn't. The power of smoking was broken in my life. I went to Bea Palo. I was trying to take alcohol. I couldn't finish it. I even gave it to some people that were there. I said, what is wrong with me today? Even the seller they say, ah, what is wrong with you? Are you well? I said, I don't know. I rushed back home then from there I went to the church to see elders. Even When I arrived at the church, the elder did not believe that I'm coming for repentance. They neglected me. I said, I've come to repent. They say, ah, please stop deceiving us. But later they took courage. That's when I come face to face. I was linked to Jesus Christ and Jesus was controlling my life. Since from that went into marriage, I've never cheated my wife up till date. Church money. I have no time for church money. Only when they give me. Even if you give me that, I will just invest it in the church. That was my life. Carrying the youth for Evangelism. I was working in the local government. If they pay me salary, I would just mobilize and organize an outreach of proclaiming Christ in which many of them today are clergies to the glory of God. And I give God the glory with what God is doing in my life. And today as Reverend Ezekiel Dachomo was ordained after ordination, I refused ordination. I said I can't start in one place. And you know somebody saying, you will not know with this, our ordination, we need people like you to come and preach to us. You will not know what we are passing through until you come into us. There is a lot of work within us that have been ordained than any other place. Then from there I submit myself for ordination. And today I'm the chairman Provisional Relief Council of Church of Christ in Nation, RCC PCC Rock. At the same time the regional Church Council chairman which control 43 local churches are under my leadership. And that is where I'm working at Church of Christ in Nation. And My president is Reverend Dr. Amos Mozo. I give God the glory under his leadership. He prayed for me when I was coming to places like this.
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Amen.
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I give God the glory.
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Amen.
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Amen.
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Well, you're also referred to as Nigeria's pastor right now. You have gone viral on social media. It seems like you're the only pastor that's really speaking out about what's happening. So would you mind explaining the situation that Christians are facing in Nigeria? How did Nigeria become the deadliest place on the planet for Christians to live?
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Let me tell you, Christians are facing a lot right from the time of colonial masters when it comes to politician. Our colonial masters, when they came, they brought the gospel to us. We know they came with three aims. Three g one, to govern. Two, to search for gold and mineral resources. Three, they brought God the message of the gospel. The gospel was there, gold was there and also government was there when they came. Especially we in the north. Before they came. We were in strong crisis with one man, Ottoman Dumfodio who led a swath of Muslims from the far north wanted to take over the territory that. But our forefathers resist them. They wanted to force our forefathers to join Islam by force. But they resist them. They suffer casualties to the state. They have to leave everything. But they got the power. When Nigeria got her independence. They lowered the British government to hand over middle bed to them. And the country was in three regions. They are supposed to create letters have four regions. But the politics of Islam they want to dominate the north.
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And what year was this? What year was this? How long ago was this?
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1916.
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1916.
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The Lord. Even before 1960s there was trouble clash that was taking place before the European came. We were living the thick darkness then when they came, as I said, they brought God for us. Many of our forefathers abandoned traditional worship and accepted Jesus Christ as their personal savior. And Islam doesn't want it. That is the background. So after they have succeeded in handing us over that we belong to the north. That is where the problem is. We start seeing marginalization. Sir Armadu Benlo was really advancing the change. Championing the cause of Ottoman Danfody through the government. Even my traditional ruler Rampam, the second chief in our kingdom, he tried his best to lower him to become an Enya that is ready to install him and give him first class. But because he stood on his faith in Christ they promoted those that submitted themselves to Islam and placed them on top. Because he refused to deny Christ, he suffered casualties. No peace. Oppression was taking place by then. And a ritual says that today that warfare is still existing. They're still pushing to take over the Islamic agenda to the coast that is south, south, Lagos. But we are the one that stopped them. Our forefathers. They hit us the south and the southeast, south, south and southwest. They are to receive from Islam. It always bounce on us.
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You are the one stopping it still today.
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Stopping it to flow by standing strong in Christ Jesus.
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Amen.
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Amen.
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So for people that have no context for geopolitics within Nigeria, explain where. Where the attacks are coming. Explain the religious breakdown of Nigeria. Give someone kind of a 30,000 foot view of what is happening in Nigeria currently today in terms of geography, in terms of religious breakdown, in terms of even. Even what people are saying is happening and what is truly happening.
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What people are saying that's the truth. Let me tell you. It is. When Goodlock President Goodloe after the death of Yaradouan, they took over the government. They were ruling the government. After pushing go on outside because he's a Christian. Murtala came on fanaticism. He seized the throne. Dimka who was a Christian was very angry that lead to that coup. Then come they begged Obasanjo to take over. Obasanjo was a soft person. Tiua Danjuma getting the support. Buhari was there too. By then Islamic agenda has not come out glare like today.
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So right now you have radical Muslims that are coming from the north in Nigeria.
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From the north.
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And their goal is some of them
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were being absorbed from Nigeria public child from central Africa. They recruit them into Nigeria to become a terrorist and they remove good luck. It is just now that I learned that Biden and Obama have a hand in removing good luck. The democrats really cause harm to us in Nigeria and God will continue to punish them until they repent. The democrat of America they didn't have. They have a hand in marginalizing us because they were behind all the sin
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that is taking place by removing the Christians, by installing the Muslims.
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Installing the Muslim.
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Yes.
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At the same time giving support to the terrorists through the government of that day.
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Wow. So right now you have the radical Muslims that are pushing from countries like Chad and others. Yes, from the north. And their goal is to take territory
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and to take over territory in the middle belt.
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The middle belt?
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The middle belt. They want to conquer it. Once they conquered middle belt. No, southeast is nothing.
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Okay.
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Southwest is nothing.
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So what I'm hearing you say is just like back in the colonial days with the British.
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The mistake that they did the hundred of over.
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Yes.
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To the Islamic kingdom.
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And there were certain people that stood firm in the north and said we are not going to let you take over this territory.
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Yes.
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And they were killed in the same way that thousands are being killed here in Nigeria.
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Thousands have been killed every time.
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Tell me. You know one question I have is it seems like you're the only pastor in Nigeria that's speaking out about this. I've heard that from multiple people. Why is it that more pastors in Nigeria are not speaking out?
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No, because God has heard our cry. The Christian cry. Christians are praying in. They are in agony, in pain. They have no place to raise voice. The judiciary is working for Muslims. The legislators are passing bills to fetch all the Muslims. The government, the executive are in support of the Muslims agenda. So as Christians, if you are alike, you are very soft. They will pick you and give you position and they will control the position. And you have no right to do anything without their conscience. The day that you do something against
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them,
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they will impeach you or they will remove you. They will declare state of emergence.
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So they have Christian puppets.
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So Christians are puppets in the hands of Islam. That's why you find it difficult. Those that have sold their hearts like Israel, those that have sold their backlight, they have nothing left. Rather than anger, this is what is happening. Christians, even Christians are angry with me because they have sold their backlight. God just single me out because God knows in years I've been bleeding, crying, crying for the nation, praying for all Christians. I spent 47 years with over 300 people that they bugged me. We climbed mountains, spent 40 days on top of mountain praying and fasting. Wow. Right from 191914 to 1917.
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So we've lost our zeal. We've lost our ability to stand firm.
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2014-2017 every year everybody will just take his mattress, his mat, whatever he has cold. We'll go and stay there. I'll be cooking three times in a week with dry fasting. Praying for the ladder, praying for the Christian. We ended that prayer in Biurum land 2017 and this is what is happening. And because of that prayer we are crying even from the mountain. They will call us that Fulani terrorists have invaded our villages. We'll be praying. We refuse to go back home. They can only send a message that so so and so so people have been killed. We stay on that mountain praying 40 days for seven years.
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Wow.
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Seven times. In order to release the seven Spirit of God upon this nation so that our fellow Christian will understand. They have got the pain. We saw these things coming and today there is Muslim Muslim ticket. Politically they have committed genocide to the Christian have no say in this government.
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Explain to me the groups that are attacking Christians right now in the north.
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The group initially there are many. The first group are the Misassini. They erode. Their target is Christian. The then government was very strong. He faced them because he had that character. And we have the Tanakato down there all from Islam Saint of terrorists are imagining from Islam coming to Boko Haram. Yusuf started it and to date the Boko Haram is split into two. The ESWA are there and do you know who from the swords is the government to divide them into two and they were fighting each other and the background of this thing when they came after removing Muslim Gurlo that is when Buhari took place, took over because he used the Boko Haram, the terrace village where Christians are densely populated. They will move to those villages even on Sunday in the farming. Sometimes they will surround the church with people that are there. They will love a church and set fire on it. All people that are in the in the vehicle in the church building were born to death. The issue of Yael Shallow Shandam in Plato State, it happened the same. They were worshiping, singing song to Jesus. They surrounded them. They locked the church. They were busy shooting bullets. Nobody can escape. And they set the church at blast. That fire burned everybody that was inside the church. Obasanjo could not do anything there. He was the president and he's a Christian. Because surrounding are the cabals.
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Are the who?
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The Cabals.
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The Cabals. So I heard you mentioned what was the first group the started with an M. The Metasini. The Metasini. There's the Kalakalo, the Boko Haram.
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The Boko Haram and the Iswap.
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Iswap.
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They were used by government to fight the other people, the Boko Haram. Up till date, they are still fighting. They have local head.
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So that group's actually fighting the Boko Haram.
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They fight each other.
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Okay, what about the Fulani? The Fulani herders? Tell us a little bit about that.
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The Fulani are among them. There are set of Fulani. There are Bihambo, Quoram. There are those that I would. That was swamp.
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Okay, so there's multiple groups that are following radical Islam that are coming in from the north that are targeting Christians taking over their land. And then those Christians leave, and then that territory has been taken. And that's the strategy, is to go from the north down to the south. Is that what I'm hearing?
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Yes.
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Okay.
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That is what the movement is all about. Now, the battlefield is as far down Kaduna. Kaduna Plateau. So the people of Kaduna, southern Kaduna, they stood because it's a dominant Christian area. As you can see, fight upon fight is still existing. They are not given.
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Wow. I've heard the figure that 7,000 Christians have been massacred in the last year. Does that figure seem accurate to you?
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No. Let me tell you, that spirit is just. It's more than what the report is all about.
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So it's more than 7,000.
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There are so many people. Thousands of Christians are missing. They are missing thousands. Let's talk about the cheaper girls. They went to the school where Christians are dominant. They packed all the girls from the school. Even right now, as I'm talking just last month. Was it last month or this month, somebody called me that I should pray for Chibok. They have invented Chibok again.
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That's a city and they cut away
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with some of the girls. Nigerian media don't want to say it.
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Why?
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Because they are planted Islamic terrorist people among the media.
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So I want to go back to. You said that the Democrats you said that Obama and that Biden were implementing Muslim leaders in Nigeria. How do you know that? How do you find that out?
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Is there in the news? I found out from the news.
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So this was open.
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So this is an open thing that is happening in the nation.
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Wow.
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The spirit of a ruling party Democrat are the same. You don't need any proof. You can. Even. Even a blind man can see, can feel it. When we were crying during Obama as we are being killed, he didn't do anything. When we are crying during Banding Biden he didn't do anything. Even from the first time he come, we were crying all over. He didn't respond. Now that he came, the killing was on high increase. Like look at this is Dogonahawa. These are victims. Two in one day, 2010. We are crying. You can see the list that is here on the spot assessment of the genocide. A mass massacre on Dirham land by Fulani house of Lani.
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This was in 2010. 2010, just 15 years ago.
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In one day. That's why I told you. We have been crying since 2001. Nobody listened to. These people. In one night they were slaughtered and machinery came from Burkuna Faso, from Niger, from Chad. They team up with the terrorists that are in the funnel. They moved into Plateau state. They took strategics. You see, that was what happened after they have killed. Is the Christian from the far north in the rural areas. If you see a Christian is in the urban area. And if you go to the typical village and you find a Christian there. He's a slave, he's benefiting. You know, when the children of Israelites were coming out of Egypt, it's not all that follows Moses. Many states to serve their masters. So this is what is happening today. Many Christians are bowing for Islam. Those appointed, they may cover the sensitive position, but they are still remote. They are still a robot controlled by remote control. That's why they found it difficult to shout, to cry out.
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Is that why there's not many Nigerian pastors that are speaking out? Is it out of fear?
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It's out of fear or out of intimacy of relationship with the world.
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Explain that
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they are intimate with the world. People of the world, money is their God. But people that are in Christ that are not of the world is God. Is their everything. That's why the Bible says you can't serve mama and God.
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So are they being paid? Are they being paid? Do they just like their cushy lifestyle?
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You have to be loyalist to Islam, then they will give you the best position. They will not stop you from going to church.
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I mean as far as you are
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loyal to what they want.
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I want to take a quick break and I want to tell you about a ministry that my family personally supports. It's called Global Christian Relief. And you may not know this, but there are more persecuted Christians around the world than ever before. And Global Christian Relief sends medical aid. They send Bibles to persecuted countries that don't have access to them. They're providing shelter. They're taking care of the least of these in the name of Jesus. And if you want to support them, you can click the link in the show notes. You can read stories of what God's doing in the persecuted church. And know this. Jesus says that what you've done for the least of these, you've done for him. But also that when we love each other as a body of Christ, the rest of the world will see him. So go check it out. I see comments all the time. You know, I showed you the video that I posted that went viral to over 11 million people. I have been gaining a Nigerian following rapidly. And the comments are that you, Reverend, are our only pastor here in Nigeria. So what I'm hearing you say is that the world is bowing to mammon, to money. They've made that their God or the church, the leaders of the church, that is it. And they're not stepping up and they're not like they did during the colonial times, saying we're going to hold the line here in the north and not let radical Islam make its way south.
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You see why they cannot? Because they have lost their saltiness. I refuse to lose my salt because my Jesus said, you are the soul of the earth. Why? They cannot speak their light of the world. But they are under the table. They are not on top of the table. It takes a Christian that is on top of the table to speak, to scream out for his people that die. A good shepherd will lay his life for his people, but a bad shepherd, even when they are killing, they don't concern as far as he didn't trust their members. Where's the place of where? The greatest commandment is to love your God with your whole heart, soul and body. The second one is to love your neighbor as yourself. Many Christians, they don't see us in the Middle Belt as their neighbor. So they cannot cry out. They don't look at us as their neighbor. It's not only Nigerian Christians, African Christians, they call the name Jesus. We are in pain. But they cannot scream out for us, advocate for us. The same thing in America, the same thing in uk. The same thing in Europe, all over the perspective of the world. They don't see us as their neighbor. We are in pain. They are just like the priests that Jesus make example. Somebody was wounded. We are the wounded one. Yes. We are insane. We are in pain.
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Yes.
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But it just passed. Nobody want to raise a voice for us because of his relationship, intimate relationship with the government.
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Wow.
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And this is what is happening today. And the government is remote, controlled by Islamic agenda. And you know those that believe in Allah, they always test for blood. Because Allah is a blood supper. That's why when they arrive at village like this is Christmas eve Dogona. Over 500 people. When they arrived that village, they were chanting a lot more. The next thing you will hear sporadic changes shooting all over the place. As is my feet somewhere plotting here somewhere. Making irons to wear clothes for the feast day. Some were frying meat after they have contributed. They have slaughter account. They share a month the meat. Everybody took his own home. His wife is cooking the meat. Some are frying, some are ironing. Then the next thing, around 7pm Here, gum shot. This is the report of the village hurom community. Names of person and properties destroyed on 24 December 2023. That day I mobilized. There was no Christmas service. I order people, go home and cook food and welcome all the vehicles in my church. I park them, fuel their cars, move into villages. Even the block industry trucks. We have to go and hire them to go into the villages. Come and see. People are running. It was in the morning. Some come and see children sleeping on the ground by the river barn where they rode. Their parents hit them. They went into sleep. We have to park them, get them into my car and other people's car. And this is what is happening.
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What does it look like when the Fulani or Boko Haram or.
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That day I was drunk, so I'm coming to that. That day I was drunk. Come and see. This is lta community. A reverend was key. Look at the statistics. Look at the names. A reverend was killed in NTV community. In this community.
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What is an NTV community?
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It's an area, a village that an antenna of this thing was placed. These are with names and also the cost of what it will cost for Us to build. So we told them to bring. This is another one again. You see me? You see me here. This is the grave that I performed in that village on Christmas Day. I was doing burial, mass burial. Look at it here. It's awful. The agony of a Christian. Look at all the houses. This is the recent killings. The recent killings just last month and this month. Look at the death cops. The recent killings. Ambush. You can't go to the farm. They ambush us and kill us.
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These are children.
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He's a child. They kill him. Genocide. Another one is here. Look at the death cause. What. What.
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My question for you Reverend is what is going to solve this? What will stop these killings in Nigeria?
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What will stop this killing is only God can do it. And the coming of trouble. My pain that I'm saying now we find it difficult to trust the military because the Boko Harams, the repented Boko Haram have been observed into Nigerian military by former chief of defense staff general Burtai. They absorbed them during instant.
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So even if. Even if the Nigerians so now they are inside.
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Even the life of the good soldiers is in danger. Christian soldiers, their life is in danger because they still communicate with their brothers friends in the jungles, in the forest. Anytime the soldiers will go for operation to fish up the path signal for them to relocate. And when our soldiers go to the place they will find empty. They are fraud. The insiders are passing information. And this is the agony of a Christian in Nigeria. Even when you call for help, they will say they are waiting for others. So as Christians what we do is only God that can use the president to break protocol and become the enemy of the Islamic of the north. Islam of the north and go with that pity without sympathy. Then he can deliver us. But as far he's looking for hope, our life is in trouble.
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What's the religious breakdown of Nigeria? Is it about 50? 50 in Nigeria, Christians, Muslims, Nigerian Christians.
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The Christians are more than the Muslims more. But because of poor politics they are the one controlling the census, rich estate. They don't want to. To. To use which religion in our. In our curriculum or so don't say you are a Christian, don't say you are a Muslim, you are Nigerian. But they are still working because they know our population is greater than their own. Yeah, even when you send people to go and work they will make sure a Christian is not sent into their area, it's only Muslim. And they will just sit down at one place and fill all the forms and bring fix numbers of figures and say this is Our population in this village. Wow. Without counting the people, this is how corrupt my country has gone. My Bible says, say the truth and the truth will set you free. If I don't tell the truth, my country would never be set free. It's only the truth can set Nigeria. Calling truth to come is in line with Exodus chapter 3. 7. Because when the children of Israelites have gone into a deep survey of double punishment from the Egyptian, they cry out. Then God said, I've heard the cry of my people that are bondage. That is where God says, let us go down. Let us go down for have consigned for my people. I've heard their cry, let me go and deliver them. That is the same thing that Trump did. With your help. You have touched our life. When you blow up, what is that your name again?
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In your name, Ryan. Ryan Miller.
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Brian. When you blow up by seeing my clip of videos. Yes, you reached home. Then Trump responded just as God responded.
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Amen.
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And we are waiting for him to come. And if Trump did not keep his thought, wait and see how God is going to ridicule him. Because the Bible says in 2nd Chronicles, chapter 16, verse 16, My eyes is ranging from one place to another, seeking for somebody. Chapter 16, verse 9. Sorry. Second Chronicles, chapter 16, verse 9. He said, My eyes is ranging from the north and east, seeking for somebody that I will strengthen. But if I find not, you have done a foolish thing, you will be at war. Seeking for people that are committed to him to use. Trump committed himself to God by making America one, creating stuff that will bring America back to God. And with the outcry, I don't want Trump to miss that word. When he came, he comes face to face with God. I was shelterless. He didn't shelter me. American Christian, I'm talking to you. You may claim that you have been fasting. You may claim that you have been very close. Not in the Bible, but the Bible is saying, listen very well. Will you be ready to face this question? I was hungry. You did not feed me. I was shelterless, you did not clothe me. We Nigerians, we are in bitter suffering. God is looking for people that he will use to strengthen us. The Bible says, if you dare make a mistake, a mistake by doing a foolish thing, not supporting Christians in Nigeria, the Bible says you get war. Look at the war that is taking place in America today. Islam is moving very fast. Is it a pandania or somebody? A socialist took over New York.
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Yes.
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You think it's normal? It's punishment from God when you fail to stand with your neighbor, God will neglect you. Hosea, chapter 5, verse 16, verse 15 says God is saying I walk away from you. You see, Brian, let me tell you something. How deeply you walk away from us while God is trying to use you to save us in Nigeria as Christians, the Bible does same verse say you will be at war. But because you have escaped war, God will fight. Any war that you are facing will belong to him. And this is what we are saying to Christians all over the world. God allowed you to see what we are passing through in Nigeria. Genocide upon genocide. Let me think. I have more than more than 100 villages with monuments. Including my village where my mother's house was. Where I grown up. Because I didn't grown up in my father's house in rain. My mother brought us as small children into her father's family. That's where we grow up. My grandmother that I stayed with her. I helped her on the farm. The machinery purely came into that village. Chanting Allahukba. Speaking their dialect. In the night they entered my house. They killed my grandmother. While I was in the city. They removed her heart. The knife that was inside get broken. I saw the pieces. The youth were telling me. I said no. We will bury her with you with the knife. Let the knife bear witness. Where we get to hell. My uncle Danda, just at the backyard. They kill him. They remove his tongue. My best friend that we growed onto the Daliop Gar. That is his name. His wife and five children were killed. Born to death. And when you took me. Come and see your friend. You people are enjoying the city. You left us in the village. Look at what he said happened. Look at what they have done to their mother, their grandmother. Look at your uncle. When we told you to help us, you always refuse. You don't help us. I said, you don't know what you are saying. I went to the house. They break the partner. I don't know how they make it. That night. They kept them inside and took padlock and locked the door and set fire on the house. When I entered, I saw the wife of my best friend. Lying on the ground to cover the remaining children. While the other child had her back. So she tightened. They were trying to open the door. The door was locked. Then she came back and lied on the children. The fifth one was at her back. They all born together to death. I'm waiting for that day we meet God. I will see how Islamic will behave when we arrive the foot of the savior of the world, Jesus Christ. It is Jesus. That is Keeping us alive. And I thank God. Many people believe that Jesus is at work. Without Jesus, we are nothing. After we have finished Christians now no more Christian to kill. In the rural areas, the Boko Haram started fighting themselves with the Israel. They kill each other, they hurt each other. The blood of innocent children, innocent Christian is fighting them. That same blood of our people that were killed is hunting them down. They went into division of Seth, the Isalas, the Ders. This what happened. They will attack each other. At the most kill each other. And for them to cry out, they can't because they are the people that breathe. They were even feeding the Boko Haram in the bush. Their women move with water and into the bush with full stuff. They will cook and take it to them. Sometimes if they laugh women they will come into a committee the faith woman to go and be cooking for them in the bush. That is vengeance of the Lord. And we are calling them to repair. They kill them. Then crisis burst up a book of judgment. When Christ is broke up Muslims knowing who I am, the pastor of the church. They all rush into my house. For safety. And do you know what? After the crisis inside the mosque there was a word, a peak. It is where they stole weapons to kill us. But when the heat get killed, they took the weapon. They run to the bigger mosque into the town that their women cannot run, children cannot run. Because our people are also out. Their youth were out. The only way of escape of these people in the church. Come and see. They are worshiping Allah, doing sadhana in my church. Because the house cannot condemn them. Because all of them will jump out my bedroom. Their children were sleeping on our bed.
A
Wow.
B
If I remember what they did to my grandmother, my uncle, my best friend. I could have handed them over to our youth to kill them. But I said the blood of Islam will not be on my head. When I called their people, the security men, they came and they lined it up. They line them up to their safety zone. And that is the work of Christ.
A
Amen.
B
In our life, we give them life. And you see, nobody will speak about that. Because it is a Christian that did it. And this is what is happening. But when a Muslim sent over 300 people in Nar. Nar is a village that is almost west east to Jos. I was talking about Nara village. There was a Muslim that locked Christian 300, over 300 Christians in the mosque. And he surrendered his life that they should kill him. He doesn't want any Muslim to any Christian should be killed. It become a history. Even they Took him to the president. He saw the president. But when I have I kept Christians and Muslims more than 36 in my house. The only thing the Muslim can do is to come and say thank you. News could not cover it.
A
Yeah,
B
because they thought this is our character where it's our duty. They were surprised to see a Muslim doing good thing. That's why there are some good work Muslims there are bad ones. Yeah, we have good Christians and bad Christians and bad Christians are the one that seen something happening to their neighbor and they say it doesn't exist already. They are under cause.
A
You mentioned earlier how God can bring war to a land if they do not help the stranger, the foreigner. Our own body, our own body of Christ is hurting in Nigeria right now. And if we turn a blind eye, if we don't do something to support it biblically, you're saying there's precedent for God to actually bring war upon that
B
God will allow to look at. I was talking about Hosea, chapter five.
A
Yes.
B
God is saying if you don't repent from your seed, I will walk away from it. Until they accepted their gift, the early the better. This is what I've been telling my people. We should all repent and allow Jesus to take control of our heart. If not, if God seek folks people that he want to use and strengthen them. He's seeking for people that are committed to him.
A
Right.
B
But if he didn't found them, he said vividly clearly, you always be at war. Do you know what it means for God to say you'll be at war with the society, you'll be at war with your neighbor, you'll be at war with yourself within you. You'll be at war with every type of sickness. You'll be at war in different perspective. So the best thing that one has to do is to do the will of the Father by allowing Jesus to take over his heart. If material, if American Christian as I'm talking, if God seek for them to help us through you people that care. God has a medium of work. If God doesn't find you supporting us, blessing our life. Most of our people, over 100 communities have have been relocated from their village. No going back to them. Because the people have built my land today I can only point finger to it. But I cannot go there. They have built houses on my life in buying area between buying and buying and in Bachi district of your local government there are and this is the pain that we are passing through. We can't go back to our land. What I want Trump to Do let him come and help us to go back to our land. People are occupied. Our children don't go to school. Look at empty schools in the village on the mountain areas. These people have covered all the mantle areas. If a woman on top of the hill is the seal. The woman coming to front, they will come. And E.B. let me tell you a painful story. This woman, she begged that she doesn't want to be identified because it's a shameful thing. She was on her farm. A terrorist came. He wanted to have sex with her by force. She refused. She was very strong to throw inland. Then she run back home. She met her husband and told him. This is what happened with this man. A flying interrogator. Because he knows he has been terrorizing the area. The husband. Do you know the response to the husband? He put his hand. He said his own is finished. I'm in trouble. I'm in trouble. I'm in trouble. Why did you do this? You could have allowed him to do it to save our life. Today this man is going to be after me. He grabbed her hand. He said, you must follow me. Let's go and make peace. The way I met him, he came out. He said, what do you want? He said. The man said to me full and please. Is there anything that entered between you and my wife? And the Fulani said, yes. I wanted to have sex with her. But she refused. And she refused. She will see and you will also see what I will do. The man started begging his wife with tears, crying. The woman sympathized. The man was on. The husband was under tension. And the man removed his trouser. He removed the woman's panty. The woman was crying in bitterness. He had sex with her. The husband turned his back like this. He finished having sex with her. He put his trouser. The woman was dressing as a crying bitterness. Then the husband said, is there anything I did? He said, I want you to kneel down and say thank you. This is the life of Christian in Nigeria. The world doesn't know what we're passing through. And when they say you should go and farm for them and you refuse, they will allow you to farm. You are farm. But you will not harvest one thing. They will destroy one night. Like these things that are look at farm destruction that they have met all these things, they cut it down. This is the factual Christian are important. All these are mess that are almost. But they caught it on hustlers with swords. They level it in the neck. They come out in mass. Hundreds. They finish the whole hectare before morning.
A
They'll take all the crops.
B
They take all the crops and in the rest of the kill all of you that you went to the farm. It's not a matter, it's religion. We have never gone to their side to kill them. This is the one of the. My church secretary was killed. My church secretary was killed. This is my church secretary. They were all ambushed around those places. We have to bring soldiers so that we take his force and they are waiting for us to come for his corpse. If they didn't see any security man, they will open fire on us. Look at they were searching for and they destroyed the crops. I was there. If you go to my Facebook, you will see a lot. Look at how they have cut down this man's crops. Level it down.
A
So they will. They'll take your livelihood, they'll take your women, they'll take your dignity.
B
They take everything. Even when it comes to enrollment recruitment into Nigeria and your police, 80% are Muslim. Even today in the security you discover Christians are changing their name to Muslim so that they will get promotion.
A
Wow.
B
If not, you'll be stagnated in that rank. Oh yes.
A
Wow.
B
No promotion. And these are things that they don't want you to talk about. As I'm telling you this, I'm ready for them. And I know they have put a ransom on my head. The good flannies, the good religion people that were there in that meeting, they called to tell me, pastor, please be careful with your movement. They have already put money on their head to kill. And these people, when they have said something, they don't go back even if they are dying. They hand it over to their children to finish the job.
A
What was the ransom? Do you know?
B
It didn't tell me the ransom.
A
So you are probably the most wanted man in Nigeria by the Muslims to kill you.
B
The bishop of. The bishop of Benue army.
A
I think I know the answer to this. Does that make you fearful? Does that make you fearful? Are you afraid for your life?
B
Why should I be afraid? While I know my Bible. In the Code of Psalms 139 he said I created you fearfully. They don't want to be afraid of me. Not me being afraid. Some people were trying to give me Aslan into Australia and other places. Let alone I said no, I'm going nowhere. I will stand with them because the danger that I see coming in future that God shows me is better for me to die now. But if it is the will of God, nothing I can do. Let his will Be done. When Jesus saw the danger that was going to go through to the cross, he said father, if it is you, I will take away this cup. But immediately he readjusted into carrying the cross. That is what I'm following the footsteps of Jesus. I have to readjust to champion the curse of my people to death. I'm not afraid of death because with Christ in me, I have conquered death. Why should I be afraid of anybody? I was going to Lagos. They wanted to give me scripture. I said no scriptures common ground. I said no, I don't need scripture. My Bible told me Clearly. In Psalm 34, verse 7, the angels of the Lord are encampering. They encamp themselves around those that fear God.
A
Amen.
B
I don't have the fear of God. Jesus is controlling my soul. Whom should I be afraid? That is why I told the people if they kidnap me or they should never pay a couple sissy, I will tell them hasn't the work of your father. I've been with you for years, but you have never because God didn't give you me into your hand. But it's time for your father, the dark person of the world, the blood sucker Allah. It's time for you to do the duty of your father. I'm following the footstep of Jesus.
A
I got to tell you, Reverend, I've met with countless Nigerians who have been shot in the face and survived because they didn't deny Christ.
B
They didn't deny Christ.
A
I've met with a brother and a sister who were burned almost alive in their in their homes, set on fire. I've met with a woman who lost her husband and son a month ago. I met with another man who lost his son a month ago. Every single Nigerian Christian I've met has said two things. I'm grateful for what the Lord's given me and I forgive my attackers. How do you see the Christians in Nigeria who have endured persecution? How are they different than the Christians you see around the world? Maybe some of the pastors who are turning a blind eye. Why is it that the persecuted seem to have a different type of Christianity than every other type of Christianity?
B
Hi. This God just leave you? Let me tell you. Everybody has his period of darkness. Everybody. And why is it that we are facing the period of darkness is for transformation. A butterfly will lay from it's a movement to lava stage. From the lava stage to puparium stage where it will lock itself there. And it is in that Puerto Rican stage, the llama that has been lost. There come development with different Beautiful colors. Let me tell you, people that love luxury, they will never be. They will remain in their pauper state lava stage. Sorry. God always brings us to difficulties in order to reshape us. The faith that I have now in Christ is more than other faith that I have in billions years. I was following Christ but I was afraid of death. When somebody says supposing you died today, I would say I reject that. But today if you say supposing the killing, as I will be the happiest person. So in this tribulation and persecution, Jesus has made that promise, he has announced it to us. You'll be persecuted, you'll be rejected because, because of me. And we are seeing it live. And many Christians don't want persecution, they don't want suffering, they don't want to. They will go to any land and do what they can do even to save their birthright. And do you know what I'm talking to all Christians in the world. No Christian will escape that war. Where is your brother American Christian? God is saying where is your brother in Nigeria. Have you become king that you have killed your brother? That's why you cannot vote out for the sake of Christian in Nigeria. What about African Christians who claim they are Christians? Where will they voice out for Christians who look at what is happening in Gaza. The whole Islamic world raised their voice because they have not killed their brother. The Hamas, the Philistines is right in their heart. They are sending footsteps, sending clothes, sending medicine to Hamas. But when it comes to Christian kingdom, very lazy, self centered, raising a voice, crucify the Christian in Nigeria. Let them have it. It is their problem. It is their problem. And begging the democrat, the republican, stand up and speak for us like Esther in the Real house. If you don't do it, our God will fight for us at our protector and you'll be left with nothing. Those in Canada, those in Spain, those Christians in Portuguese, those in every place of the nation. God will surely ask you, where is your brother? And when you did the needy, when you did the meeting, how about God will say I was hungry, you feed me.
A
Amen.
B
How did you. Did I feed you when you sent for help to Nigerians when they were in need? It is I that you are doing it to me. It's nobody. We need your support materially. Money, prayers, we need it. We are begging you. You are not that wicked though. That judge was very wicked. But he solved the problem of that widow, that woman, he solved her problem, says Jesus. And yet people are not working. We are not to ask you for bread and you give us stone. Stone silence. Without doing anything for us, you have cheated us. You have buried us. You have killed us. Please do the work of God. We are asking you for fish. Don't give us snakes to bite us. We need security. Tell Trump to stand up and do something for us in Nigeria to save our life from the terrorists in the name of Jesus.
A
So right now, if you're listening to this and you're inspired, let your inspiration move to transformation. Let your inspiration move to action. Because there are practical things that you can do. And I want to give you a few. Number one, set a day to pray and fast for the Nigerian church, for our brothers and sisters in Christ. Because guess what? If their churches are being burned, so are yours. If they're being cut, if they're being shot, if their crops are being taken, so are yours. Because we are in the same body with them. So pray and fast for our brothers and sisters in Christ. Number two, there are practical resources that you can provide. There are churches that are being rebuilt. There is trauma counseling that's happening. There is aid that is being sent. There is food, there is shelter. There are so many things that Global Christian Relief is doing. I've seen it the last week. I. I've seen the work in action. Give practical needs. It doesn't have to be a lot. $5 sends a Bible. There are so many things that you can do with your money, with your prayers, with your time, with your fasting. So I would ask you, number one, would you pray and fast? Number two, would you give to Global Christian Relief? There's going to be a link in the show notes. And then number three, would you send a letter to your elected official? Would you call your elected official? Would you tell them that we care about our own body, that we saw them hungry and we fed them, that we saw them in prison and we rescued them, we came to their aid, we met with them, that we saw them being burned and cut and we put salve on them. We saw the pain that our brothers are in right here. This is a man of God. This is a hero of the faith. And he is one of the few that is standing up right now and he needs us. So I'd ask you those three things. Would you pray and would you fast? Would you send practical aid through Global Christian Relief? And number three, would you write a letter? Would you call your elected official? You can easily Google, you could easily look up who they are, call them, let them know that we care about our own body in the United States. And then, Reverend, I would ask you if you were sitting down with Donald Trump right now, practically, what would you ask him for?
B
Practically, what I will ask Trump to do. Let him queue up. Because Abraham is the father of our faith. Father of faith. When Lot was under crisis, despite the fact Lot has the problem, he caused the problem with his wife and they have to separate. Despite separation. When Lord was in Crisis, Abraham selected 300 servants. They went and helped let Trump cure from Abraham, the father of our faith. We have been wounded as Christians in Nigeria. We are under bondage. Come and redeem us as Abraham did in Nigeria. To our brothers Christians, I'm begging you in the name of Jesus. Support us materially with whatever God has laid in your heart. We want to go and rebuild our houses that have been burned down by terrorists. We want to go back and reclaim our land, stand for us spiritually. Take time to pray and fast to cast out disarmed demons that comes from the north. Even Jesus told his disciples this kind is only through prayer and fasting. For it to go. Your prayer and fasting will get rid of the evil that is behind us. And God will say, well done, my servant. I was in trouble. You were there for me. You did it for me.
A
Yes.
B
Don't look at us. We have Jesus in our heart. That same Jesus that is in you allowed him to use your account to bless us. One day we shall meet in eternity before heaven, before Jesus will embrace each other. We are all one in Christ Jesus. God help you all. Thank you very much Reverend.
A
You're heroic. So grateful for you. We will be praying for you in the United States. Thank you for being on the podcast today.
B
Thank you. Thank you very much. I want Christians from all over the world should write a little letter to give us hope. I will share that letter to different churches that this is a letter that comes from Canada, America, Chicago, Texas. Christians as team of both Catholic and Protestants they are teaming up. They are encouraging us through later through phone calls. In fact, it will gladden our heart. We feel we belong, but for now we always feel we are alone. Can't you bless us with your prayers and material support? Some of you can support $1,000, $500 through our brothers. They will take care of us. I've seen the good work of global Christian support. The persecuted have seen it. They are just back from we met here. They are taking care of many orphans, schools being open, visiting IDPs car. Those of you that you have support them. God will never forget your family because you take care of us. God will take care of your family. That is the word of God. In Jesus name I pray. Amen.
A
Amen.
B
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
A
Thank you, man. God bless you.
B
God bless you, sir.
A
Love you, brother. We'll be praying for you.
B
Thank you. God bless you.
Jesus People Podcast Ep 61: Christian Persecution in Nigeria—A Pastor’s Warning to Trump & America
Host: Ryan Miller
Guest: Reverend Ezekiel Dachomo
Date: March 4, 2026
In this sobering and passionate episode, host Ryan Miller sits down—after midnight in an undisclosed Nigerian location—with Reverend Ezekiel Dachomo, called “Nigeria’s Pastor” for his vocal stance against the ongoing genocide of Christians in Nigeria. Reverend Dachomo shares his incredible testimony, gives urgent context to the spiritual and geopolitical violence faced by Christians, and issues a heartfelt warning and call to action to both American Christians and political leaders, including Donald Trump. This episode is raw, emotional, and a spiritual call to arms for the global body of Christ.
Quote:
"I didn't know that I was operating with 14 demons until Jesus encountered me that night. There was war. He came with seven angels... I took the covers of those images that were killed. I covered myself as if I'm dead. But the master Jesus said there was somebody that we have not killed. Go fish him out."
— Reverend Ezekiel Dachomo ([04:08])
Quote:
"The Democrat of America, they have a hand in marginalizing us because they were behind all the sin that is taking place by removing the Christians, by installing the Muslims. At the same time giving support to the terrorists through the government of that day."
— Reverend Ezekiel Dachomo ([17:42])
Quote:
"Thousands of Christians are missing. They went to the school where Christians are dominant. They packed all the girls from the school. Even right now, as I'm talking... they have invented Chibok again... Nigerian media don't want to say it."
— Reverend Ezekiel Dachomo ([27:38])
Quote:
"But they are under the table. They are not on top of the table. It takes a Christian that is on top of the table to speak, to scream out for his people that die. A good shepherd will lay his life for his people, but a bad shepherd, even when they are killing, they don't concern as far as he didn't trust their members."
— Reverend Ezekiel Dachomo ([34:27])
Quote:
"Every single Nigerian Christian I've met has said two things. I'm grateful for what the Lord's given me and I forgive my attackers."
— Ryan Miller ([72:19])
Quote:
"God always brings us to difficulties in order to reshape us. The faith that I have now in Christ is more than other faith that I have in billions years... Many Christians don't want persecution... No Christian will escape that war. Where is your brother American Christian? God is saying where is your brother in Nigeria."
— Reverend Ezekiel Dachomo ([73:11], [75:00])
Quote:
"Let Trump queue up from Abraham, the father of our faith. We have been wounded as Christians in Nigeria. We are under bondage. Come and redeem us as Abraham did in Nigeria."
— Reverend Ezekiel Dachomo ([80:46])
Quote:
"My pain... we find it difficult to trust the military because the repented Boko Haram have been observed into Nigerian military by former chief of defense staff... Now even the life of the good soldiers is in danger. Christian soldiers’ life is in danger... insiders are passing information."
— Reverend Ezekiel Dachomo ([41:32], [42:15])
At the close, Miller and Dachomo urge listeners to:
"We are the wounded one. We are in pain."
— Reverend Ezekiel Dachomo ([01:25])
"Because the danger that I see coming, that God shows me, it's better for me to die now."
— Reverend Ezekiel Dachomo ([01:50], [69:26])
"I have to run to leave home. I was staying in the jungle, sleeping outside. I was an associate of armed robbers... I would remove a page from the Bible to mold Indian hemp and smoke."
— Reverend Ezekiel Dachomo ([03:06])
"God just single me out because God knows in years I've been bleeding, crying... I spent 47 years with over 300 people... Seven times. In order to release the seven Spirit of God upon this nation."
— Reverend Ezekiel Dachomo ([19:54], [21:24], [22:35])
"They surround the church. They locked the church. They were busy shooting bullets... And they set the church at blast. That fire burned everybody that was inside the church."
— Reverend Ezekiel Dachomo ([24:00])
"They kill him. They remove his tongue... I went to the house... They broke the patner. I don't know how they make it. That night. They kept them inside and took a padlock and locked the door and set fire on the house."
— Reverend Ezekiel Dachomo ([48:49])
"If you are listening to this and you're inspired, let your inspiration move to transformation... Would you send a letter to your elected official?... Because we are in the same body with them."
— Ryan Miller ([78:42])
Reverend Dachomo concludes with a heartfelt call for unity in Christ across the globe and prays for those who support the persecuted, reminding all believers of the rewards and judgment attached to loving or ignoring their suffering family ([83:29]).
This episode is a sobering wake-up call, a deep dive into both the tragedy and the supernatural resilience of Nigeria’s persecuted Christians. It urges immediate, practical action and deeper spiritual solidarity from the international body of Christ.