Episode 25: The Jesus People Podcast | Amanda Pittman: Breaking Generational Curses, Spiritual Warfare & Kingdom Authority

Summary

Jesus People Podcast Episode 25: Amanda Pittman – Breaking Generational Curses, Spiritual Warfare & Kingdom Authority

Date: June 30, 2025
Host: Ryan Miller
Guest: Amanda Pittman

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Episode Overview

This episode reunites host Ryan Miller with Amanda Pittman, marking her return as the podcast's first recurring guest. They embark on a vulnerable, candid discussion about spiritual warfare, the reality of generational curses, deliverance ministry, and how to walk in kingdom authority as followers of Jesus. The conversation is packed with lived testimonies, practical insights, and honest admissions of spiritual highs and lows, all anchored in a deep desire to help believers break through spiritual barriers and walk out their God-given identity.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Transformative Impact of Vulnerable Ministry ([00:18]–[03:46])

• Ryan describes the ripple effect of Amanda's previous appearance, noting how it deeply touched listeners—including a Microsoft executive who became a close friend and ministry partner after encountering the Holy Spirit through that episode.
• Amanda and Ryan reflect on how God's presence transcends time and space, impacting listeners far beyond the original conversation.

Notable Quote:

"It's so incredible that someone somewhere else, not in the room with us, could feel the presence of God, and fall to their knees... it’s just a testament to the presence of God. He’ll meet you anywhere."
— Amanda Pittman [02:59]

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2. Spiritual Dryness, Pruning, and the Secret Place ([03:50]–[11:48])

• Amanda shares about a challenging stretch of spiritual dryness and describes how she felt like God was distant after pouring out at a conference ([03:50]). She likens the experience to gardening, where roots are strengthened through dry spells.
• The turning point came at a retreat when others prayed spiritual warfare prayers over her, breaking off heaviness and restoring a sense of intimacy with God ([06:50]).
• She stresses that sometimes, spiritual warfare and God’s pruning operate together, teaching trust beyond emotional "highs."

Notable Quote:

"I underestimated the power of spiritual warfare. That surprised me because I’m always thinking about it... but that thing broke when we prayed."
— Amanda Pittman [07:36]

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3. Kingdom Authority, Spiritual Attack, and Standing in Victory ([09:05]–[15:38])

• Ryan and Amanda discuss the challenges of busy seasons and the impact of parenting, ministry, and attacks—both spiritual and circumstantial ([09:05]).
• Amanda underscores that the Church often underestimates God and overestimates the enemy. She explains that while demonic warfare is real, believers possess authority, rooted in Jesus’ finished work and maintained through intimacy with God ([11:48]–[13:41]).
• Preparation for spiritual battle happens in the secret place—prayer and intimacy with God.

Notable Quote:

"Authority is afforded to you by intimacy... There’s a difference between proximity and intimacy. We’re not far from God in proximity, but our hearts can be far from him in intimacy."
— Amanda Pittman [14:37]

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4. Deliverance Ministry: Testimonies, Skepticism, and Breaking Curses ([22:44]–[30:47])

• Amanda recounts her introduction to deliverance ministry, overcoming initial skepticism and witnessing firsthand the reality of spiritual oppression—even among believers ([22:44]).
• She describes a powerful deliverance experience, where tracing personal and generational wounds (“generational curses”) in prayer led to freedom ([24:31]).
• Ryan highlights how Western Christianity often dismisses deliverance due to abuses or theatrics, resulting in missed opportunities for genuine freedom.

Notable Quote:

"The way you’re exposed to deliverance will shape and color your views… Abuse doesn’t nullify the proper use. The proper use is in love so people can receive the gospel."
— Ryan Miller [28:47, 30:16]

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5. Breaking Generational Curses and the Battle of the Mind ([33:52]–[54:59])

• The hosts engage in a robust examination of generational curses—patterns and bondages passed down family lines—and how they manifest psychologically, emotionally, and spiritually ([33:52], [70:27]–[74:02]).
• Amanda insists that many persistent struggles, such as addiction or insecurity, are intensified or rooted in generational influences, noting the importance of curiosity and prayer in identifying these roots ([70:45]–[73:34]).
• They stress the necessity of breaking off “word curses,” agreements with lies, and self-limiting beliefs, replacing them with God’s truth.

Notable Quotes:

"The enemy will take territory anywhere you’re unwilling to take authority."
— Amanda Pittman [46:17]

"The number one way people won’t grow in their faith...is because of the oaths and the covenants and the word curses. They speak over themselves."
— Ryan Miller [52:40]

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6. Practical Spiritual Warfare: Taking Thoughts Captive, Renewal, and Obedience ([46:17]–[63:02])

• Amanda gives actionable advice for breaking cycles of defeat: force-feed yourself with the Word, worship, and truth even during lowest moments ([47:10], [49:20]).
• They explain how authority is lost when believers agree with thoughts or identities that contradict God’s will—solving this requires intentional repentance, self-forgiveness, and breaking off internal agreements ([49:43]–[54:05]).
• Obedience, faith, holiness, and purity are “shields” against the enemy, as is walking in what God specifically commands ([59:14]–[63:02]).

Notable Quotes:

"Make sure your public declaration of Jesus never goes beyond your private devotion to Him."
— Amanda Pittman [14:15]

"Do what the Word is telling you to do... people who don’t even understand the concepts of warfare are doing damage to the kingdom of darkness simply because they’re doing what the Word tells them to do."
— Amanda Pittman [63:02]

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7. Root vs. Fruit: Getting Curious About Your Wounds ([69:12]–[74:02])

• Both speakers urge listeners to “get curious” about the source—or root—of their issues, rather than focusing only on their behavior (fruit).
• Amanda draws from deliverance experiences to demonstrate that God cares about the origin of cycles, including inherited patterns, trauma, and family wounds ([70:27]).
• Prayer for God to reveal roots is encouraged, and listeners are reminded that even “small” struggles matter to God.

Notable Quotes:

"Shame ceases in His presence. And when the shame is gone, that’s when we can get curious and say, 'Where did this come from?'"
— Amanda Pittman [71:58]

"The enemy will take territory anywhere you’re unwilling to take authority, and he wants to take authority in those areas so you can experience the abundant life that He died to give you."
— Amanda Pittman [73:34]

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8. Processing Emotions with God: True Intimacy ([75:08]–[78:16])

• Amanda and Ryan affirm that God wants to meet us—in raw reality, not polished religiosity.
• Amanda explains how our views of God as father are often shaped by earthly parenting, but God’s love and correction are perfect.
• Processing emotions with God, modeled after David’s psalms and Jesus’ example, brings healing and intimacy ([76:19]–[77:56]).

Notable Quote:

"The difference between righteous anger and unholy anger is whether or not you process it with God."
— Amanda Pittman [76:53]

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Resource Recommendations & Deliverance Ministries ([78:34]–[79:49])

• Mike Signorelli’s Deliverance Map (V1 Church)
• Only God Revival (Leah’s ministry)
• Bev Tucker

Ryan and Amanda encourage listeners seeking deliverance to pursue reputable ministries committed to biblical truth and genuine transformation.

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Closing Prayer: Affirming God's Presence ([80:05]–[83:28])

Amanda prays for listeners to sense God’s nearness, break shame and condemnation, receive refreshed authority, and become spiritually alert:

"There's this lie that's nagging...that God is not with you. God is with you... He hasn't abandoned you. He's with you...I declare heavenly rains to rain down from heaven on the sons and daughters under the sound of my voice."
— Amanda Pittman [80:12–82:23]

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Memorable Quotes & Spiritual Takeaways

• "Authority is afforded to you by intimacy." [14:37]
• "Faith is actually defensive... If the Lord has called you to do something, and you don’t do it, that’s when you’re more prone to attack." [59:14]
• "God can take what was intended for evil and use it for good. Every time. Nothing’s wasted." [74:16]
• "The enemy will take territory anywhere you’re unwilling to take authority." [46:17]
• "Make sure your public declaration of Jesus never goes beyond your private devotion to Him." [14:15]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [02:24] Ryan shares testimony about the impact of Amanda's past episode
• [03:50] Amanda describes her season of spiritual dryness and breakthrough
• [07:36] Realization of spiritual warfare’s potency in personal life
• [11:48] Thoughts on spiritual authority and underestimating God’s power
• [22:44] Amanda explains her entry into deliverance ministry and generational curses
• [33:52] Importance of recognizing and breaking generational patterns
• [46:17] The battle for the mind: authority, thought life, and breaking agreements
• [59:14] Faith, obedience, and purity as spiritual protection
• [70:27] Getting curious about the root of wounds and breaking shame
• [75:08] How our perception of God as Father affects our intimacy
• [80:05] Closing prayer of blessing and authority

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Final Words

This conversation is a powerful, practical deep dive on the realities of the spiritual realm, deliverance, kingdom authority, and the radical love of God. Both Ryan and Amanda invite listeners to step out of shame, break generational bondage, and step into freedom and intimacy through prayer, obedience, and the renewing of the mind.

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For more resources on deliverance or to connect for support:

• OnlyGodRevival.org
• Bev Tucker Deliverance
• V1 Church Deliverance Map with Mike Signorelli
• Share the Struggle Inner Healing & Coaching

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"God is with you. Authority is yours. Walk in it."

Transcript

[A]

Guys, welcome back to the Jesus People podcast. Had to have Amanda Pittman back for the second time. You're the first recurring guest, so.

[B]

I am.

[A]

You are.

[B]

I'm honored. Honestly, last time was so incredible. I was so stirred. So I'm just so happy to be back.

[A]

Well, I was. I was sharing with you before we started Rolling Cameras. I was like, I got some stories for you for. For some fruit that came from the podcast. And I think even just me, like, I was. I was so moved by our podcast and so encouraged. And it's so funny how the Lord can take the direction of something like that that you think. Like, originally it was like, oh, let's talk about spiritual warfare, because, you know, you're. You're in deliverance ministry, and you've had a background in that, so I'm like, ooh, that'd be fun to talk about. And then the Lord just, like, takes it a total direction, ends up blessing me through it. And so I'm just really grateful for that. But I've gotten so much feedback from that podcast. Like, a lot of people have reached out and have just said, like, hey, I. I watched the thing with Amanda, like. Like, that was my first introduction to your podcast, and now I'm hooked. And that episode was amazing. And I even got a. I got my. My assistant and the lady who sends out my daily devotional emails. They both, like, message me within 10 minutes of each other. Like, you gotta check out this email, because I'll have emails fall through the cracks and stuff. And it was, like, from a Microsoft executive, and he's like, I just need to talk to Ryan. Like, is there any way we could set up a call? And so I'm like, yeah, like, he's like a partner at Microsoft. It's like, big Dog. And so I get on, like, a Microsoft Teams call with this guy, and he tells me the story. He's like, I was, you know, hiking, and I'm, you know, like, I've really been trying to grow my faith, and I was listening to John Bevere, and then my phone was in my backpack. So then it switched to this kid named Ryan Miller, and I started listening to this podcast with him and Amanda, and he said he was, like, so moved by the Holy Spirit as we were speaking that he said it almost like, dropped him to his knees.

[B]

My God.

[A]

And he stopped, and he felt like, the Lord said, you need to reach out to Ryan, and his name's Chad. And so his podcast actually drops today. And because he flew down to Dallas and the fruit of that now is like. He's, like, a good buddy of mine.

[B]

That's incredible.

[A]

And we're, like, even talking of, like. Because you know this about me, but I'm a filmmaker, so we're talking about, like, partnering on certain things. And he's, like, opening my eyes to everything with, like, AI and, like. So he's just become a dude I text with regularly now and a good buddy and potential partner in a lot of things. And that came from that episode. So praise God.

[B]

That's incredible. Yeah, that's. You know, it's amazing because on the way there, I just felt the presence of God so thick. And throughout our conversation, I felt the presence of God so thick. It's so incredible that someone somewhere else, not in the room with us could feel the presence of God, so. And fall to their knees. And I. To me, it's just a testament to the presence of God. He'll meet you anywhere. And I love that it led to a life. I believe it'll be a lifelong connection. That's.

[A]

Well, that's what he said. He's like, yeah. He's like, I think we're, like, joining the spirit for life. And I was like, all right, let's go. You know?

[B]

You know, it's crazy because I was starting to say lifelong. I'm like, am I saying lifelong? But I was like, let me just let it flow. So I'm just like, that must be. That must be the Holy Spirit.

[A]

Totally. Yeah, totally. Well, what's God been doing in you recently?

[B]

The Lord has been pruning me in a mighty way. You know, last year, I hosted a conference, and it was so incredibly, incredibly powerful. We saw God do some incredible things. But afterwards, I felt spiritually empty. I felt as if the Lord had met everyone else except for me. And that was the first time that I had experienced a bout of spiritual dryness, with moments in between of feeling the Lord thick, but in general, the largest amount of time of spiritual dryness that I had experienced.

[A]

And when was this?

[B]

This was after the conference. It was, you know, from August until about, like, January or February of this year. And it really felt as if I could not access the presence of God in the same way. And we know that that's a lie from the enemy because the Lord is as close to you now as he ever will be. But it felt as if there was this barrier between God and I. And everybody comes to God in their own way. Some people's experience is they're drawn to the Lord in an intellectual way, and they understood him through the context of scripture more than anything else. For me, the experience of God has always come first and then the conceptual understanding of him has come next. And so for me, to not experience the presence of God, to feel the presence of God, but having to trust, trust in it because of what I know, that was difficult for me. For me, it felt like. I remember when I first got into gardening and caring for my lawn and all of that. There was a period of time in which I had to water the lawn every single day. Like, you can't go without watering it or it's going to dry out, but after a period of time you have to let it dry out so that the roots can be strong enough to withstand a drought. And so it actually is a part of the maturing process. And I feel like the Lord was bringing me through that and learning how to trust his character and trust who he is even when I don't feel his presence. And so, yeah, it's, it's very easy to have conviction for the Lord when you experience him in a deep way. But I went through a long period of time without that. But it was back in March. I was starting to feel like, okay, I'm taking steps forward. Of course I was still reading the Word, I was still praying and everything, but it was just like, it felt different. But I went to a retreat back in March, and it was towards the end of the retreat and I had prayed to the Lord. I was like, lord, can you just allow someone to see me? And a friend of mine towards the end of the retreat, she said, I feel like we need to pray for Amanda. Mind you, there's like, I don't know, like 80 people in the room. Like, why? Why me? And so many women surrounded me, placed hands on me, prayed that off of me. She said, I believe we need to pray against spiritual warfare with Amanda. And the way the entire atmosphere shifted, it went from a very light hearted type of situation to it felt like spiritual warfare. We are breaking things off in the spirit. And after that I felt such a release. And it felt as if what was so difficult to access for months and months wasn't difficult anymore. It was as if the Lord was speaking. There was a direct line of communication. I could feel his presence, I felt his love. And it made me realize, wow, I truly underestimated in this situation. I underestimated the power of spiritual warfare. And that surprised me because I'm the type of person, I'm always thinking about it. I'm always, that's always on my Mind. I have an intercessory prayer group. We pray every single week. But I just thought to myself, it must be something that I'm doing. It must be the way that I'm approaching this, this, that, and the other. But that thing broke when we prayed. But I realized the Lord was also pruning me. I think it was twofold, because the enemy can only touch you if the Lord allows him to. We see that in the story with Job. And I realized that there was an element of spiritual warfare at play, but there was also an element of pruning to where the Lord was showing me what it looks like to walk through a spiritual night. Not just a time where it feels like the day and I'm walking with the Lord in the cool of the day in the garden, but a time where it feels like it's hard to access him and just trusting and believing his character. And so, yeah, that has been. That's. That's been what the Lord has been walking me through recently.

[A]

Wow. Wow. That's heavy and beautiful.

[B]

Yeah. I'm grateful for it. I'm learning a lot.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. It's so interesting. Like, last. Last time we. We chatted, I was in this spot where it was about to be tw. What is it? What year is it? 2025.

[B]

Right.

[A]

What year is it right now? It was about to be 2025, and I was, like, looking back on 2024, and I was just, like. I just, like, grinded myself to the bone, and there was, like, this repentance moment, and I was thinking about that coming into this podcast, and I was like, I don't know that I've really improved, you know, and there's been attack. Like, there's been spiritual attack, and there's been, like, a. A lot of. Like, I. I don't. I don't know why. Just a lot of busyness. And I think it's a season of life, you understand? You have kids, you know, like, how many kids do you have again?

[B]

F2.

[A]

You have to. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. It's just, like. Just crazy. But I think understanding the power of prayer, like, you're saying, right, like, how that can break, like, demonic strongholds that can create peace in. In hopeless situations. I put out a post the other day just asking for prayer, and we were getting. We were getting hit hard, and, man, I just put on an Instagram story, and it was, like, boom, instantly broke. I got thousands of DMS from people saying they were praying for me.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

And it's just amazing to Me that we have direct access to the Prince of Peace. And we just. We don't stand in the authority to be like, oh, he's my father. He'll give me good gifts. He'll take care of that.

[B]

Like, absolutely.

[A]

Like, Satan's nothing, you know, like, he's. He. He's. He already stomped his head in the garden, you know, like, so are on the cross. I should say so. Yeah. What's been. What's been your experience standing in that authority, fighting for the peace understanding? Because for me, I'm like, you know, we just had Garrett Uncle Bach on the podcast who's a Navy seal, and I was talking to him about some of the stuff, and he's like, I don't even speak, like, negative thoughts or negative emotions or anything like that. And I'm like, well, I don't know that that's healthy. But, like, his point was that, like, I'm not even going to allow myself to go there because I don't want to give the enemy access because he can't hear our thoughts. He can hear our words. So he's like, I'm not even going to let him go there. So what's been your process with that of, like, going in and out of struggles just as a person, as a mom, as someone who's, you know, taking ground in enemy territory online and in ministry and conferences? Like, how do you manage that? How do you step into that? How do you even talk about it without, like, exposing yourself to attack?

[B]

Right.

[A]

Because part of me is like, we just, you know, we just interviewed Rion, the former head of the Church of Satan. The attack was crazy. Should I have even been talking about that with people?

[B]

Right.

[A]

Should I have even been announcing that? So, like, you, you're. You understand spiritual authority, you understand the spiritual battles. What do you think?

[B]

I think that we understand the power of the enemy, but we underestimate the power of God. Truly, we give the enemy too much credit. There's a part of us that is ignorant to the enemy's schemes. And because we're ignorant to it and the enemy thrives in ignorance, we can be attacked. We can be bopped upside the head. There's a part of us that tends to under spiritualize things. But in the same regard, when we think about the power of the enemy, on the flip side, we'll overestimate what the enemy is capable of and underestimate what God is capable of. Because Jesus is the King of kings and the Lord of lords. Yes, there are powers and principalities and workers of Darkness. There are demons. And these things are waging war against us. It is war. I'm never going to undermine that. I experience spiritual warfare every single day. Experienced it this morning on our way here. And yet our God is more powerful. We forget that he has all authority, he has all dominion, and he's given it to us. I believe that the believer needs to be taught about spiritual authority and what is given to us by the blood of Jesus and by the name of Jesus. The blood of Jesus has broken every curse. The blood of Jesus has the ability to cast out demons, to heal the sick, to raise the dead. That is the power of the Holy Spirit and the blood of Jesus. Jesus name. I was just listening to the Book of Acts and. And people were looking on the disciples and. And wondering, by what authority are you able to heal this man? By what authority are you able to perform these signs? And they're saying by the name of Jesus.

[A]

Right, right.

[B]

That same authority is still given to us today. Now, I believe that one of the biggest gaps that we're experiencing, especially in the west, is just understanding how to access that authority. It's already given to us by the power of Jesus. But accessing it has to do with intimacy. Many times we're not taking time out in the secret place. We're not taking time out in prayer. And we believe that we're going to be prepared for the day of battle. You don't prepare for battle when the battle's happening. You prepare in advance so that when the battle comes, you're ready. And so what that preparation looks like is spending time in the secret place. Authority is afforded to you by intimacy. I said it earlier, but we're as close to God now as we ever will be. It's not a matter of, you know, is God far from you. I just rebuke that in the name of Jesus. So many times, believers will listen to the voice of the enemy, listen to the voice of condemnation, and truly believe that the Lord is far from them. The truth is that he indwells us. He indwells his sons and daughters. We are a temple of the Holy Spirit. But there's a difference between proximity and intimacy. Closeness and proximity and closeness and intimacy. And so we're not far from God in proximity, but our hearts can be far from him in intimacy. And so it's our role to go deeper with God and just allow. Make sure that our public display and our public declaration of Jesus never goes beyond our private devotion to Him. And so I believe that's how we can walk in greater levels of authority and just apply what he's already given us.

[A]

Right, right. Yeah. David beat Goliath, but he lost to Bathsheba.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

And it says that in the season where kings go to war, David was looking at a naked woman.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And he had lost the mission, he'd lost the battle because he had lost the intimacy. And so you will not lose the battle until you use that. Lose the intimacy. And we will stand before him one day and he will say to some, depart from me. I never knew you. What's that word? New. It's the same word for sex. When the angel appears to Mary and she's like, I've never known a man, it's the same word, same exact word that's used. And so what I'm hearing you say is if we are going to be prepared to fight this battle against the schemes, not against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against a very real demonic and dark enemy, it's going to start in the secret place.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Your time in the secret place will kill your time in secret sin.

[B]

Absolutely. I'm so glad you said that. You know, David, not only was he not spending time in intimacy with the Lord, but he was also not serving. I think there's just something so powerful to be said about the life of service.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And the life of a believer. The place of service in the life of a believer. When we become too consumeristic and we think, okay, I need to go to church, I need people to pour into me. But we're not thinking about how do I show up for others, how do I stand in the gap for others. That's when you become really complacent because you no longer have conviction to fight for other people.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And so in that place of service is where you recognize how true, how real the battle is, because you recognize how. How the enemy is attacking someone else and how you need to stand in the gap.

[A]

Right. Right. So you. You said on the way over here. Because I'm feeling this need to pray for you right now, you said on the way over here that you had some spiritual attack. Can you tell me about that?

[B]

Yeah. So, because I have been so focused on the house and the kids lately, and my husband's been traveling so much for work.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

My. My outward ministry has felt as if it's taken a backseat. And it seems as if anytime I. I step more into this, I just experienced so much more pushback. It just seems like certain things are going wrong. Like, even on the way before I got here, our Alarm system was going off, and I couldn't figure out why, and it just pushed me back so much. And then on the way here in the car, something was going in my eye. Had to pull over because it was, like, streaming down my face. And I just felt, like, really overwhelmed. And I had to switch gears because I was starting to feel like a victim. It's easy, you know, when it feels like everything's going wrong, it's so easy to feel like a victim. Like, oh, you know, why is everything happening to me? And I was just like, no, in Jesus name, I'm gonna show up. I'm gonna show up in the authority of God. What the Lord has to say will go forth. And I understand. So much of the attack is in my mind. There's this belief that, you know, maybe what I have to say isn't gonna go forth or what I have to say isn't a value or whatever it may be. And the enemy's just trying to get into my head, and it's just like, no, in that moment, I have to take authority. And so that's what that looked. The car ride looked like for me. I was just praying, praying in tongues quite a bit. I was listening to scripture, and I was just reminding myself of what the Lord is capable of. I think when we look at our flesh, it's so easy for us to have a. A small level of faith and a small level of belief because we understand we're. We're finite. We're not capable of much. But anytime I can think of anything that I've accomplished in my life of value, it's when God has shown up in a mighty way. And I felt insufficient, but his grace was sufficient for me. And so it's a great opportunity for that. But you tend to feel that when you're in a place of serving, in a place of using your voice. Right. So because you recorded that podcast with, you know, the man of. What is he the head of the Church of Satan?

[A]

He was the former head of the church.

[B]

Former head of the Church of Satan. You are going against some serious principalities. You're going up against some serious, even just generational things. I mean, occultic. You're going up against so much, but because you're using your voice and because you're serving others in that, that's when the attacks come. And so, yeah, that's what I was experiencing.

[A]

Okay. Yeah, let's pray real fast. Lord, I just thank you so much for Amanda. I thank you for the authority she stands in. We just make Every assignment of the enemy, null and void. In the name of Jesus, we claim your authority as sons and daughters right here. We take up the sword of the word of God and the shield that can extinguish every flaming arrow he wants to send and pray this all in Jesus name. Amen.

[B]

Amen.

[A]

Yeah, man, it was wild, dude. Like, it's hard to explain to people what the last month has looked like for our family. And it's not just the. The interview with Rion. It was. I mean, we're doing like, oh, gosh, we're doing a TV show with Bryce Crawford. So a lot of people don't know this, but I'm like a director and producer, film director and producer. And so we're doing that, we're doing a documentary with Nala Ray, the former only fans model who gave her life to the Lord. So it's like, okay, you're charging Church of Satan, you're charging LGBTQ with Bryce, you're charging pornography with Nala. It's just like, right, we're charging. You know what I mean? And, and I think too, where I've, where I've tried to get to is with all the attacks, like, literally insomnia, like, just can't sleep, like, and waking up to my wife crying because she can't sleep another night. And crazy sickness I can't even begin to describe. I've never seen my children like that before. Like, comatose, just in their own, like, diarrhea and throw up, just like cannot. I mean, it's just craziness. My eye then blows up. My eye turns completely red.

[B]

Oh my goodness.

[A]

And just on and on and on. It was like one sickness after another. So like, literally for the last month, it's just been non stop and to, to. To kind of to be like, yes, we stand in authority, but this is also very real, you know?

[B]

Right.

[A]

And I wish we would have done it sooner, but we needed to call on some like, prayer firepower and get some covering, like we did early on, but we needed to get more of it. But talk me through, in your experience, the, the fight between light and darkness. Talk me through deliverance ministry. Like, what's been your background into deliverance ministry? Like, people will probably look at you and be like, oh, you're like a deliverance ministry warrior. Like, they probably wouldn't. They wouldn't see it. You know, probably, you know, think of a guy with face tattoos or something doing that sort of stuff. But like, like, what was your introduction to that? And then what have you learned about the battle between the light and the dark.

[B]

Yeah, those are great questions. So I didn't grow up in a church environment in which deliverance ministry was talked about or practice in fact, either. Yeah, it seemed hokey. Exactly.

[A]

Until you start seeing it and you're.

[B]

Like, oh, right, right. The kind of church I grew up in was extremely Bible based, very Gospel centered, which is really great. It was all about Jesus and the Father, all of that, but there was not a lot of teaching about the Holy Spirit or about the spiritual realm. And so I, I met this girl at an event that I went to. Her name is Leah. And when she was talking, she was sharing these stories of how she was in this house with a lot of other people. They had prayed for the baptism of the Holy Spirit. And when that happened, so, so many things happened. Oh my goodness. Demons started to manifest in someone who, their family had a background of witchcraft. And she was just sharing so much of what that looked like. I mean, it was over the course of days it took to, to, to cast this demon out. Demons, many. And she was just sharing testimony after testimony. And I just thought to myself, wow, I haven't met other believers who are walking it out this way. This was like, I don't know, five or six years ago, maybe seven now. And I was just like, I need to stay in contact with her. I have a feeling we just need to stay in contact. And so it was years later, I was running a mentorship program and I was walking through with a woman just some of the issues that she was dealing with. And I feel very gifted in that.

[A]

Area with women's ministry.

[B]

Very, very, very gifted when it comes to one on one mentoring, being able to pinpoint exactly what it is that you need.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But I was coming to a point where I couldn't help her anymore. I said, what you're dealing with is you need deliverance. It was just so clear to me and it's not something that I had ever experienced before, but it was so clear to me. What you're dealing with is very spiritual in nature. You're dealing with demons.

[A]

How'd you know that?

[B]

The way she was, she was explaining the type of anger that would come over her and it was almost like a blackout.

[A]

Right.

[B]

It was the type of even atmosphere within her home and how the atmosphere would shift at different times. This was. Had to do even with her family's land. Her family's land had some very strange history with it. And so I was like, this is, this is beyond me. Being able to pinpoint what's going on maybe in your emotional life or going on in your mind? This is. We're coming up against spirits and principalities here.

[A]

Right?

[B]

And so I was like, hey, I have a friend named Leah. I'm gonna reach out to her and see. And so what Leah says is she sends me a list of questions like, you know, tell me about your grandparents. Tell me about your parents. Tell me about your lineage and your bloodline. Do you have any history of abuse, drug use, mental health issues? Are there any issues that run in your family? Right. Are there things like cancer that run in your family? How did your grandparents die? Very, very thorough list of questions. And so I was like, okay, I'll hand this. I'll hand this to her. And so we go down to Houston and meet up with Leah to do deliverance.

[A]

And, dude, this is your first time?

[B]

This is my first time. But I was just like, she needs it. I have. I. I don't know how else to help.

[A]

And you, You're. What was your category at this time for Deliverance? Because I. I have a feeling I know what's about to happen.

[B]

My category was I didn't fully believe that it was for believers.

[A]

Right, dude. Right, Right.

[B]

I didn't think that.

[A]

That Christians could have a demon.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

It's so funny. Everyone that I've heard said that has never seen deliverance, and then once you.

[B]

See it, you're like, okay, exactly, Exactly. I didn't believe I had a need for it.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And. And I. But when I saw that I couldn't help her anymore, I was just like, I have no choice but to bring her right. During the deliverance, there was quite a bit of a block when it came to her, and it was hard to fully decipher what that was. But she had never been baptized with the Holy Spirit, and we are just praying for her so much, and we saw some things break, but we were like, she needs more. And many times with deliverance, there. There's more that needs to be done. But God still met us in an incredible way. And. But it was that night, I was just, like, tossing and turning, and I just felt like I'm supposed to go through this, like, what they're praying for for her and how they're going very meticulously through her bloodline and through her history. I need this because I. There's some things I have never addressed in the spiritual realm. Right. Like, maybe I've dealt with it in therapy, maybe I've talked about it at some point, but I haven't Dealt with this spiritually.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

And so it was very vulnerable for me because I'm like, I'm here for her. This is not about me.

[A]

But you're feeling this need. Like, I think I need this as well.

[B]

It was the Holy Spirit. I was feeling that. Absolutely. And Leah responds and she says, you have no idea. But we've been praying that you would ask for that.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

We've been praying that you'd do that. And I think after I had seen it, it was just so I recognize that this wasn't spooky, this wasn't strange. I think the way that you're exposed to deliverance will shape and color your views about it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

When you're exposed to people who are gimmicky, weird, strange, which you see a lot on social media, you see a lot of that. Or even theatrical.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Or even if you see false prophetic words, if you see people who like, you gotta push them down. Like when you see those types of things, it's easy for you to not believe in the power.

[A]

Write it off.

[B]

Yeah. That's why so many times it's harder for people who grew up in environments like that because they've seen so much.

[A]

But when you go back to the Bible, it's like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Jesus is constantly casting out demons and then teaching his disciples to do the same.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

And there's a whole sect of Christianity right now that's like, no, that's woo, woo. It's like, wait, what? What are we talking about? This is one of his main aspects of his ministry and we're just going to write it off.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And then once you start seeing it with people that are actually not doing it for the clicks and the views and the shares and the, the social media gimmicky stuff where people are just acting, it's like, okay, that's so obvious that you're just acting right there. Once you actually see it and you're like, I can't unsee what I just saw.

[B]

Right.

[A]

There was nothing that was fake about that.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And then you experience it for yourself. You're like, there's something here that the Western church is fundamentally missing.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

There is. There is a warfare that we are miss. There is a ministry that we're missing because we refuse to go there because we've seen the abuse. But the abuse doesn't nullify the proper use.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

And the proper use of it is to do it in love so that people can receive the gospel. It's all, it all comes back to Jesus and we like, do we believe we have an enemy or not? And I think there's all these little things that people will say like, well, Christians can't have a demon. It's like, where do you see that? Where is that in the Bible? And where's that in practicality? Because you start getting around the ministry, then you're like, oh, that's just the silliest thing I've ever heard in my life.

[B]

Right.

[A]

You know, so yeah, I just think we miss it. I think we full on miss it.

[B]

We do.

[A]

And I think people, especially as we're getting. I don't know how you feel about this, but I believe we're in the end times. Yeah, I believe we're getting very, very close. And I believe we can see the signs. Jesus says you can't know the, the date or the, the hour, but you can see the signs. People often quote that. They're like, we don't know when it is. It's like, yes, we do. We just don't know the date or the hour. We know the signs and the signs are the birthing pains, which, what are birthing pains? They start like milder and farther apart and then they get more intense and more frequent. We're seeing that now. People will be lovers of self, lovers of money, lovers of pleasure. Like all these things that we are seeing play out. And so even talking to Rion, the former head of the Church of Satan, he's like, the Satanists know this. They think that the, the second coming is going to be the Antichrist. So everything's in reverse. For Satanists, we believe that Jesus is coming back, but both parties know something's happening and they know it's happening soon. And so if Christians are missing deliverance ministry because if things are happening quicker, if the demons are getting stirred up more and more now, because they are. And you can see it, you can see it's very clear. The things that would have been completely immoral 10 years ago are now just normative, right? That boys can be girls and, and you know, have 10 year olds like in, in a bathroom and then have like a grown man like crazy stuff, right, that like we couldn't have even imagined would be like moral. But it's like now on one side of the camp it's like, yeah, that's highly moral. It should show us that things are ramping and we need to have a category for deliverance ministry because if we don't, we're going to be missing out on the opportunity to love and the Opportunity to free people so that they can encounter Jesus more.

[B]

Yes, I completely agree. And I believe that you, you mentioned that people from the other camp, they're aware. They're very aware because they're in tune spiritually. There's a level of spiritual intelligence that they carry because they're not ignoring the spiritual realm. Right. And it's all twisted because Satan is a liar and the father of lies. Right. So if they have a level of spiritual intelligence and spiritual understanding, how much more can we, who have the Holy Spirit, who knows all things, who knows the mind of God, how much more can we know and operate in? Even the scripture says in acts, like in the last days, I'll pour out my spirit on my sons and daughters. They'll dream dreams, they'll prophesy, they'll have visions. And so when you see that, the scripture also says that the Lord doesn't do anything without revealing it to his prophets first. And now we all have the ability to know the mind of God because we have the Holy Spirit indwelling within us. He reveals these things before they even happen. They're stuck stirring within us even now. And so what you're sensing is what the body of believers across the world is sensing. There's a mighty wave happening right now, a great awakening that's happening right now. And we have to acknowledge the spiritual realm. Because whether or not you acknowledge it, you're engaging in it.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Whether or not you believe in spiritual warfare, whether or not you believe in the fight, you're engaging in it. You're either engaging it in it willfully or ignorantly. And so you need to be through what?

[A]

Through. Through media. Through, like, how are you. How do you see that?

[B]

I mean, so. I mean, so much of it is media. So much of it is what you, what you intake. But I mean, the, the scripture describes Satan as. As the prince of the power of the air. And so there's so much that happens in a dimension that we can't see. It's the unseen realm, but it influences everything else. For generations, people have understood that there is an unseen realm that influences our actions and our decisions. And so much of what we do is influenced by those things. And so we have a lot of control over that with, you know, the people we surround ourselves with, what we, what we listen to, what we watch, all of that. But, like, also so much of it, so much of it is, is spiritual influence. So when you're at night and you used to have a pornography addiction and pornography issue, all of a sudden you Know, maybe your spouse is traveling or something like that. If all of a sudden you have this overwhelming sense that, man, I need to watch porn, I need to watch porn. Maybe you haven't even dealt with a temptation in months, or whatever it may be, that is a spiritual attack. It may not have been brought on to you by anything. You may have kept everything clean, right? You. Your. Your Internet's clean, everything. But all of a sudden, you're dealing with that. That is a sp. You may not see it, but you experience it, right? It's very much like the wind, right? You don't see the wind, but you experience the wind. It still influences everything. And so, yeah, whenever you are aware of the spiritual realm, that's when you can engage appropriately. If you're not aware of it, then here's what would happen in a moment like that. You would start to identify with the sin rather than identifying with Christ. So in that moment, you can think, oh, my gosh, I'm. I'm just a porn addict. This is just who I am. You know what I mean? This is just who I'm. Who I'm always going to be. And, like, why would I think that I would be able to overcome this? Why would I think that I'll be able to overcome this temptation? It's just like, this is just who I am. This is the way it's going to be. I give in, right? But if you have the understanding, no, this is a spiritual attack. This is not who I am. It's for freedom that I've been set free. I'm not going to be bound against the yoke of slavery. I have authority in Christ to overcome this. There's no temptation that has the ability to overtake me, except for what's common to man. So the Lord is always going to give me a way out. He's always going to give me escape. I have the authority to overcome this. And so when you recognize that, you can respond appropriately. But when you don't recognize it, you just think, oh, it's just me. It's just how I am. It's just who I am. You identify with the sin, and that's the issue with it. And so, yeah, it influences everything. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

It was interesting talking to Rion, and he was like, people think that demonic attack just is like this, you know, random. You're just being attacked. Like, he's, like, coming after your health. He's coming after all these things, and it's just like this boom, attack. He's like, no, no, it starts with you Doubting your authority.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

It always starts with doubt. He's like, this is the playbook of the kingdom of darkness is first, let's get you to doubt your authority. Then let's work on your thought life.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And then comes the attack. So you. Like we were stages from getting bombarded by spiritual attack, whatever that looks like, whether it's health or whether it's, you know, like sabotage or all the things that we think of that are going to happen. It's. It's always starting with us not walking in the authority. We have to kick him to the curb. Because Satan and God are not opposites.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Satan and the Michael the Archangel are opposites. So it's like we can call on the angels for protection. We can call on Christ for protection and stand in the Authority as his sons, knowing that he's given us the kingdom.

[B]

Yes, absolutely. And that's what I learned whenever I went through deliverance. So even going back to the story, they walked me through all these questions about my family history, my own history. You know, I've walked through sexual abuse. I've walked through just so much feelings of inadequacy and insecurity, just even things in my bloodline. Right. Like my dad used to be an alcoholic before he gave his life to Christ. And just lots of things that run in my family. We addressed so many of those things. And. And what really stood out to me was the authority that these women walked in. There was a time, there's a moment in which for the majority of the time, I had a lot of control over myself. Because the Holy Spirit gives you self control. Right. But there was one spirit in particular that had to do with sexual abuse from the past that it was very stubborn and it wouldn't come out during deliverance. It took such a long time. And I could feel it in my body. I could feel the manifestation of it. And it was hard for me to look them in the eye. And I just felt so victimized. I felt as if, like, I'm. I'm a victim to the spirit. I don't have power over it. And the woman would look me in my eye, it would say, amanda, no. Look me in my eye. And they would look in my eyes and say, I command you to get out in the name of Jesus. They would look that spirit in the eye. They would look past me and talk to that spirit. And they would talk with such authority and such accuracy. Even things that I didn't tell them about. They would say, I even command the smell that's associated with that memory to come out of your memory right now in the name of Jesus. Because they didn't know those smells would come back. You know, even my. My dream life. They would call out things that were happening in my dream life that I never told them about. And then when I saw that and then I actually broke free, that thing left. I recognized the authority that we actually have in Jesus. They were applying the authority. Authority in a way that I had never seen before. And these were deep psychological places, places of abuse. And many times, that's where the enemy will initiate you into these places of darkness and into these places of bondage. Right. Your soul will be trapped. Your soul will be fragmented because of things like abuse. And therapy is great. Therapy is important, but there's a certain barrier there. I needed Jesus to pull me out of those places. I needed Jesus to meet me in those memories. And so I remember feeling so weak at one point because it felt like this particular spirit was just, like, giving me the runaround. And there's a moment I was just weeping, and someone. Her name is Kristen. She was hugging me, and I was just weeping. And I get this vision. And in this vision, the Lord himself comes in to the room, and I was in the middle of a memory, but the Lord himself comes into the room, and he rescues me, but he doesn't rescue me by fighting. He doesn't fight the enemy.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

All he does is come in and love me as his father.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And that's when the spirit left.

[A]

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

[B]

That was the moment everything changed. And it made me realize, wow, it's the vision wasn't Jesus. It was an understanding that this was the heavenly Father in the vision. And I understood that the Lord is my good father, and he doesn't want to see his daughter in bondage. It broke his heart to see me walk through sexual abuse. It broke his heart to see all the things that I had to walk through in my life. And he wanted to personally rescue me, and that's what he did. And I can look back on those things and just say, I have such a level of freedom in that area. And, yeah, it's such a beautiful thing. And that just taught me the power of authority. And the authority comes because we're sons.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

We're daughters.

[A]

Right.

[B]

We belong to him.

[A]

Right, right, right. It's beautiful. Oh, yeah, man. I think so many of us are just trying to escape some of these things from our past and just wanting to feel good. We're just like, man, like, I just want. We're Treating Christ, maybe not willfully, but we're treating him as like a numbing ointment or like, you know, just like Advil. It's like, I just feel so crappy. Like, I just. I just kind of want to feel better. So I'll go to church.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And the reality is God wants to heal us from the inside. You know, we share the struggle. Our ministry where we do coaching, it's like a combo of therapy mixed with forward facing, facing coaching mixed with inner healing prayer. And I was doing a training with our coaches the other day for inner healing prayer. And, you know, some of them had experience with inner healing prayer and, you know, in varying degrees, and some were like, experts at it. But it's so funny. Like, we'd get in these Zoom calls for this training exercise, and I'd put three coaches in a room. You know how you can break out into rooms in zoom? So three of them would go in a room and they'd do these exercises and we'd all come back and everyone would just be like, wiping tears, like, crying. Because, like, when you just let the heavenly father re parent you and you bring him into those moments of pain, and it's very simple. It's just going back into a memory and you do this with someone. And again, like, if you're listening and you want this, you can go to sharethestruggle.org and connect with someone. We'll do it. And you just invite him. You say, lord, where were you in that moment? And it's crazy how he shows you things. And it's crazy how he'll give you. He'll transform a memory. And nothing's wasted with him.

[B]

Nothing.

[A]

He takes what was intended for evil and uses it for good. All of these men and women in the Bible that have this mantle of leadership had to get there in the wilderness.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's not like you just arrive by reading a book. It's like you just arrived by having a really good conversation or listening to a good podcast. You kind of have to go through it.

[B]

You do.

[A]

You have to, day by day, struggle and be like, lord, I don't. I don't know how to make it through this. Like, we don't know where we're going to go. But we trust you, Lord. Yeah, we're going to trust that you're going to lead us. And how does he lead you in the wilderness? He led them by a cloud by day and a fire by night. Why? Because it's really hot and you need some shade in the day. And it's really cold at night, so you need a fire. So cool. How God will lead us by his provision and by his love. And the weapons of our warfare are love. Like we so often think. It's like, you know, we hear these things like, Jesus is coming back with a sword and he is that, you know, God is a wrathful God, and he is. But God fights with love.

[B]

He does.

[A]

God. God took on the cross out of love.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

He defeated sin, death in the grave, not in the way anyone else could have dreamed it up, but through getting spit on, beaten, humiliated, abandoned by his friends and then hung on a cross. And that's when he proclaimed, it is finished, and then died. And then died for the sake of victory so that we could have victory in our lives.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because he resurrected us with him. And I just think so often, like, we, we think of, like, deliverance and we think of this spiritual battle as this thing that's happening to us. Instead of being like, no, we're going to take ground and we're just gonna, we're gonna swat him away like a fly as we move forward.

[B]

Right?

[A]

Like, we're standing in the authority that we carry. And I, I. That was so convicting for me, talking to Rion, because, like, how often do I punt on my authority, right. How often do I go through my day or go through my life and feel like it's just like, ah, something bad's gonna happen to me, or I claim things over myself that God doesn't claim over me.

[B]

Right.

[A]

You know, like I, I continue to, to mull over memories and, and, and I mean, literally just curse myself.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Like word, Curse myself constantly.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I think, talk to me a little bit about the thought life that you've seen as you've counseled so many women and been in deliverance ministry. How does the enemy attack? And then what, what are the ways that you think we fall prey to it, just even in our thought life.

[B]

Right. You know, earlier you were talking about the enemy taking territory. And the truth is that the enemy will take territory anywhere. You're unwilling to take authority, so you have to take authority over your thoughts. You have to. It was influencing the thoughts of Adam and Eve that was, that allowed the enemy to forfeit, to get Adam and Eve to forfeit their birthrights. Right. And it was through deception. It was through the way that they think. It was by tainting the way that they perceive something. And so we have to command every single thought to come into alignment with the truth of God.

[A]

Amen.

[B]

No, it's not easy. It's not easy. That's much easier said than done. But, you know, one of the ways that it was explained to me is, you know, sometimes you have to force feed yourself even when you don't feel like it.

[A]

Right, right.

[B]

Because there are times where you're really weak.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, let's talk. Let's not talk about the times where you're on fire for God and talk about the times where you feel like a spiritual high. But what about the times where you just feel like crap? You know, if you already feel defeated, those are the times in which you just have to force feed yourself.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You're like, I don't even feel like reading the Bible. Listen to it. Put on the audio Bible.

[A]

Right, right.

[B]

You know, not even there yet. Cool. Put on worship music. Yeah, right. Like, put yourself in an environment. If you don't even feel like you have the ability to fight for yourself. Trust. Trust in the. The power of scripture. Trust in the power of even the people who are worshiping in that moment. Right. Like, that's powerful. It'll push you into a state where you're ready, you're ready to be in this, in the presence of God. But yeah, sometimes you need to force feed yourself. Like, you will start to crave whatever it is that you consume. And so if you're consuming a lot of trash, yes, you're going to start to crave a lot of trash. But if you're consuming scripture, if you're consuming worship even when you don't want to.

[A]

Right.

[B]

You're gonna start to crave it. And I. That's the, the practical piece that I want to give people because I know that I'm not speaking to people who are always in a place of just like, oh, my gosh, I feel like on a spiritual high. Like, I'm over here battling demons. Like, no, no, they're probably feeling weak. They're probably feeling like how I felt, like, victimized. Right. Like, I can't get up. I don't know what to do. Just do one thing. Turn on some worship music. Turn on scripture and see how things change.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And so, yeah, you know, our subconscious mind is really powerful. Really, really, really powerful. Like, you don't even need to consciously accept something in order for it to live rent free in your mind. Right. So many of us will know words to a song we've never looked up the lyrics to, because if we've heard it enough, boom, we can rehearse it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's why I just think it's so powerful. When you're in a place in which you feel mentally weak, just allow scripture in the background, even if you feel like, oh, man, I wasn't even paying attention. Yeah, well, that's much better than having, you know, TikTok running in the background. Right, right. Like this is a practical way to renew your mind and take back authority.

[A]

Right, right, right.

[B]

And so, and the other thing I want to say is this. So many of us have made oaths and covenants by the thoughts that we think and the words that we speak. We don't recognize that we are in agreement with the enemy's will for our lives.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

So many times during deliverance, people have to break covenants that they've willfully made with the enemy because they said, I will never get married, good things will never happen to me, divorce runs in my family. And I'm going to see it time and time again. They come into agreement. They believe these things. And so, you know, the scripture tells us not to give the enemy a foothold. Right. We give the enemy a foothold by the words that we speak and the thoughts that we think. And so, so many times, you know, we talk about word curses spoken over us. But you just said it yourself, I'm speaking word curses over myself. Right, right. So many times we're our. Our worst enemy. Right. And it's just because we're coming into agreement with the enemy rather than coming into agreement with God, what God is saying about us. And so, yeah, some of those things you need to renounce. Repent for speaking those things, repent for believing those things. Say, I repent for calling myself ugly. Right, Right. I repent for believing that negative relationships and poor relationships are what I deserve. I repent. Like you actually need to repent because it's not God's will for your life and it's coming into agreement with the enemy's will for your life. So, yeah, so much of deliverance also has to do with self forgiveness. A lot of times we do not let go of the things that we know we're just struggling to forgive ourselves with. Right. Like, you know, we can release our parents, we can release that person who did that thing to us, but we can't forgive ourselves. And so, and, and the last thing I'll say is this. So many of us also need to repent for blaming God. We blame God for a lot of the bad things that happen in our lives. And we have a level of expectation, like, if God is good, then this wouldn't have happened to me.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And so if we're not blaming ourselves, and if we're not dealing with unforgiveness concerning ourselves, we're blaming God and we're dealing with unforgiveness concerning God.

[A]

Right?

[B]

And that opens the door to the demonic to have so much territory in your life. And so if you really want to break free from a lot of these things when it comes to your mind and taking authority, forgive yourself, forgive those who have hurt you. Release God from the expectations of, of things that are outside of his character, things he never promised you. Right? Come out of agreement with these oaths and these covenants that you've made in your mind.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Repent and renounce so that you can walk forward and have full victory and take authority.

[A]

That's so good. It's so good. I think, man, of all the people I've counseled, the number one way people won't grow in their faith or just get blocked from spiritual growth is because of the oaths and the covenants and the word curses. They speak over themselves.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

And they think it's like cathartic to just say these things like I'll never get married, or I'm just an anxious person. And it's like. Do you not understand that spiritual growth comes from taking thoughts captive, making them obedient to Christ?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Do not be conformed to the ways of the world. Be transformed by how the renewing of your mind. What's the renewing of your mind? It's your thought life. Why do you think Psalm 119, 9, 11 says, how can a young man keep his way pure? So you want to walk in purity. You want to walk in freedom by living according to the Word, by seeking him with your whole heart and hiding His Word in your heart. Why? Because God's word will replace the lies.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

The lies that have been spoken over you by dad. The lies that have been spoken over you by the ex girlfriend. The lies that you've spoken over you because of those traumas, because of the poor thought hygiene that you've had. And then you replace them with the word of God to say, no, no, no, I'm not a failure, Right. I'm a child of God.

[B]

Right?

[A]

I, I, I. This isn't happening to me. This is happening for me, right? I get to walk into the Authority knowing that I have a beloved. I'm a beloved son or daughter of a father who is infinitely powerful and has the best for me.

[B]

Right?

[A]

And so I am no longer going to come into agreement with those thoughts, with those lies with those beliefs. Because the only way that Satan can really get a foothold in your life is when he feeds you a flaming arrow. A thought, you take it as a belief and then you act on it.

[B]

Right.

[A]

If instead of you picking up the shield of what faith that extinguishes every flaming arrow. And what is the faith in? That I'm not a failure.

[B]

Right.

[A]

That I'm a child.

[B]

Right.

[A]

That I'm not too old. That I'm just getting started.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And when you can pick up that shield of faith and actually believe the gospel, that it is finished. And what is what happened when it was finished, when the curtain was tore? You gain access to become a child of God. And if you're a child, then you're an heir. Heir of what? The kingdom. So what does that make you? Royalty. So what should you do about that? Walk with a holy swagger, knowing the king of the universe is in your corner. Nothing can touch you.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I think Christians are punting on their authority. And what does that do? It prevents you from walking into the identity and the calling that he has from you. And it opens you up for attacking.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The number one way that we block the destiny God has for us and we block the authority that he wants for us and we block the calling that he has for us is by believing the lies, is by letting those flaming arrows penetrate. And then we partner with them.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And we go, oh, I feel so bad right now. I'm just. Nothing good happens for me, Right? Like, I guess I'm always going to be this way. I'll never. I guess I just don't have self control because I've been battling pornography for this long. It's like, no, no. Who told you that?

[B]

Right?

[A]

Like, where did you learn that? Who told you that if. If that you could eat from that tree and you'd be okay?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because I actually told you you shouldn't eat from that tree. But did God really say you shouldn't eat from the tree? That one question, that one doubt. And that's what Rion said. He's. He's like. It starts with doubt every time. And doubt in what? In God's goodness and in your authority. Because the two are hand in hand. If he's good and you're a child, then that means you have authority.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

So he wants us to punt on our sonship, on our daughtership, on our rulership. Because what was the intention of the. Of the garden? What was the intention of human beings to rule and to take dominion? So what does that mean for us today if now Jesus was the second Adam, that the curse, that he became the curse in the garden, that there was a tree but then he died on a tree to reverse the curse and now gave us access to the kingdom. What does he want for us now? He wants us to get back to the garden.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

He wants us to get back to the dominion, to get back to the authority. So if that's the case, then what's Satan going to try to convince us of? No, you're not good enough. I saw when you looked at porn last week. I, I, I see what you do when no one's looking. I see how you cheated on your taxes. I see all those things. No, no, no. Other people, but not you. Yeah, other people will go out and do the cool stuff, but not you. And the moment we partner with that is the moment that we block ourselves from stepping back foot into the authority he has for us.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And that word in When Jesus died on the cross and he says, tonight you'll be with me in paradise. That's the same word as the garden. So Jesus is saying, tonight we're going back to the garden. We're going back to walking together. And so when we get to heaven and Jesus says to some, depart from me. I never knew you. Like we said earlier, that word new means intimacy, means it the same word for sex. I didn't commune with you on such an intimate level where we knew each other deeply. So because of that, like depart from me. But what he's saying there essentially is the kingdom of God. Eternity starts now. And we can begin walking with him back in the garden. Now. Now it's not in its fullest form yet, but I really think that that's what the enemy wants to convince us against. That this longing in our heart for the more it can't be satisfied right now, right? And so, well, maybe this thing's just not for me, right? And maybe I should go back to my medication strategies because drinking a lot feels really good and hooking up with that guy or that girl feels really, really good. And it gives me just kind of like a quarter turn off taste of satisfaction. And so that's good enough for me right now because I don't really think I'm worth it. And again we're just punting on, punting on, punting on our authority. The whole time God is waiting there for us, being like, I'm ready, like, like it's all yours. He's given us the keys to the kingdom.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I think the Enemy, through our sin, through our traumas, through our families of origin, through demons, is. Is trying to convince us of otherwise.

[B]

Yeah. You know, I'm really glad that you touched on the shield of faith, because I expect faith to be offensive and not defensive, you know, because when you say, oh, I'm taking a leap of faith, you. You feel like, oh, my gosh, I'm taking steps, as if I, you know, this is, you know, there's the sword of the spirit. That's offensive, but faith is actually defensive.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And so I came across this post on threads a couple weeks ago, and it was. It said something along the lines of, you know, these vloggers shouldn't be showing their whole houses online. Like, basically insinuating that when you give that much access into your life and people can see into your life, it creates an open door for the enemy and he can attack. Especially those who are, like, in witchcraft, many times, they'll take pictures of your home, they'll put it on an altar, they'll do all kinds of things. And so I'm like, I think that there's a little bit. A little bit of truth to this. But I felt as if there was something that was so huge that was missing, and it was the element of obedience and faith. Because if the Lord has called you to do something and you don't do it, that's when you're more prone to attack. And if the. If the Lord has called you to something, even if you don't feel like you're capable of doing it, that guards you and protects you. Whenever the Lord called the Israelites into the promised land and they scoped out the land, they didn't believe that they're capable of it. They said, we're like grasshoppers to them. And because they didn't have faith, they didn't inherit the promise. Part of them didn't. Right. The ones who did have faith were able to inherit it. And so whenever you're operating in obedience and operating in faith, that's where the protection comes, right? And so if there's somebody to. Where the Lord has called them to be an influencer, has called them to do vlogging, because they're doing it to the glory of God. And the Lord is like, I want you to show what it looks like to walk this out by sheer virtue of saying yes to God and operating in faith and operating in obedience, that's protective. The same thing goes for the breastplate of righteousness. So much of operating in righteousness is doing what God has told you to do. The scripture says if somebody knows what is right to do and doesn't do it, it's sin. And so operating in obedience is operating in righteousness. Operating in purity is protective. And so if you want to be shielded against the attacks of the enemy, what you want to do is make sure you're in alignment with the will of God. Do what it is that the Lord has told you to do. Operate in righteousness, operate in purity. The scripture says be angry and sid not so that you don't give the enemy a foothold. Right. It's that manifestation of sin that allows the enemy to have a foothold. So righteousness is protective, but sin opens the door. Correct. And so if you want to do anything great for God, operate in a high level of faith, operate in a high level of obedience, and operate in purity. Right. And so whenever we're encountering all kinds of trials, a lot of it is something that we just have to walk through, but some of it we don't need to walk through. Some things we don't need to encounter simply because we're doing what the Lord has told us to do. A lot of things come our way because of disobedience. A lot of times the enemy is able to attack us because of open doors. Open doors of sin, unconfessed sin, unforgiveness. These are things that need to be dealt with. Sometimes we're wondering, oh my gosh, why do I keep getting attacked in this area? And it's just like, you need to address that secret sin. You need to address a lot of this unforgiveness. The Lord is trying to get your attention, and it's a wide open door.

[A]

Right.

[B]

You know, and so, you know, when we think about the weapons of our warfare, it's like, yes, we need to be in prayer, we need to be interceding. That's powerful. Yes, we need to be using the Word of God.

[A]

Right.

[B]

But let's not underestimate the power of purity, holiness, holiness.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Righteousness, obedience. When you do these things, people who don't even understand the concepts of warfare are doing damage to the kingdom of darkness simply because they're doing what the Word tells them to do. So when you don't know what to do, do what the Word is telling you to do.

[A]

And starts by reading the Word.

[B]

Read the word, read the Word, live the Word. Right.

[A]

How can a young man keep his way pure? By living according to the Word, not just by reading it, but by putting it into practice.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

And like you just mentioned, Satan gets a foothold through sin. That's it. Be angry and do not sin so that you don't give the enemy a foothold.

[B]

Right.

[A]

So he's saying you can be righteously angry. Jesus flipped tables in the temple. But then that anger, that feeling, that emotion, which emotions are good. There's not an emotion on the planet that is sin.

[B]

Right.

[A]

There is. Every single emotion is good and from God and should be expressed in the same way that Jesus wept, in the same way that he went to his disciples and said, my soul is sorrowful to the point of death. He's expressing emotions, but then he's taking thoughts captive.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And he's not letting those emotions lead them to sin.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because here's what happens. A thought turns to an emotion. Well, an emotion typically dictates a thought and then that turns to an action. When people don't express emotions and when people don't have wise counsel or a trusted pastor or a friend or a spouse that they can actually share this thing with, it manifests and festers and all of a sudden it gets to the point where you start thinking these lies.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then those lies turn to sin and actions that aren't, you know, according to God's plan. And that's when the devil gets a foothold.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's when he can move in, meander and operate in your life. It's not at the moment where you feel the bad thing. I think so many people are so scared of their emotions. It's like, no, no, your emotions are beautiful. Your emotions are great. Your emotions are from God. The thoughts. You should get really aggressive with the thoughts you should take captive. Why? Because they'll turn to actions.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

At Share the Struggle, our coaching ministry, we call it TEA time. It's, it's, TEA is our acronym for our captive thoughts model. It's thoughts, emotions, actions. And so we'll go through, like if, let's say you had a fight with your mother in law and I don't know, your mother, maybe she's great. But let's say you had a fight with your mother in law. What we would do is we would, we'd do some inner healing prayer and then we would ask you like, okay, what were some of the thoughts that came up to you? Express the thoughts. Like, what were the emotions? We'd affirm the emotions. Like, yeah, makes sense. Really frustrating, really sad that you don't have that good relationship. Okay. Now as a result of the thoughts and the emotions. What did you do?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And if we don't address the fruit, then what's going to happen is people are going to continue living this life where they don't really know why they do things.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They're like, why did I blow up at that person? Why did I look at porn again?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Well, let's actually get curious.

[B]

That's so good.

[A]

Let's. Let's. Let's get curious about what was I thinking and what was I feeling that led to that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then we can take the thoughts captive. We can express the emotions and guess what's going to happen. You're going to have a different action.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then you can begin walking into the kingdom of God. I think the biblical model for change is confession, repentance, and substance change. Confession is simply to tell the truth. It's not saying, I looked at porn. It's saying, I was insecure, so I looked at porn. Repentance is not just saying, I sinned. Repentance is. Is changing the way you think. It's. It's looking at a situation with curiosity and being like, I was thinking this one thing, which led me to do that one thing, and I actually turn around and believe the exact opposite thing. I don't believe I'm stuck. I believe I'm empowered by the Lord. I'm creative. I can figure a way out with his help. And then what happens is your action changes. That's the substance of who you are. So it's confession, repentance, and the form of who you are begins to change and conform to the image of Christ. This is. That's warfare in and of itself. Because what does the enemy want you to do? He wants to get you to believe the lies so that then all of a sudden you feel a certain way. Because we're always like, the things we do are always informed by how we feel.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What we do in this life is informed by our desires. So he wants your desires to change. He wants you to desire the cheap fix of porn or the. You know, the. The three drinks a night and just numbing out with Netflix so that you actually don't address the root cause, which is that you're really just lonely.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And instead of, like, sitting down and attuning to your spouse or calling a friend or opening your Bible because you know what the root is? You stay stuck in that rut. The devil just wants to get you stuck in these ruts so that you continue down this path of. Of this lifeless life. You know, when Jesus says, I've come to give life and life abundantly, so many People are just living this. This life that's just kind of like a life of medication.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

A life of, like. I guess I'm just a victim. So I guess I'll just try to feel good.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And so I'll go to the bars or I'll call up that girl, or I'll get on Tinder, or I'll scroll social media for 16 hours. It's like, man, that's not what God's called us to do. But we don't. We feel hopeless to it. And so we don't realize that the way out of it is by stopping and getting really curious about what's going on underneath the surface of these actions. Because the action is what gives the devil a foothold. But how does he start? The flaming arrow of a thought.

[B]

Come on.

[A]

And if you don't take that captive and then realize that I'm having these emotions that are very real, that are coming from that or coming even before the thought.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Then you're not going to be able to adequately express that emotion so that you can process it, and then you're going to believe the thought, partner with it, act upon it, and then what happens? Boom. Foothold enemies. Like, gotcha.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And Jesus is like, no, no, no. I told you to pick up your shield of faith.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I told you to renew your mind through my word. And so, number one, if you're not operating with big faith, understanding that the king of the universe is in your corner and picking up the word of God, which is what His. It's. It's his understanding, his character, his love for us, his plan for us. That's what the word of God is. Right. It reveals the heart of the Father to us. So when we have the heart of the Father revealed to us and we understand that we walk in authority, we don't think those things anymore.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Right. Because we. We're like, we. They might pop up in our head, but then we go, that's dumb.

[B]

Yeah. I think so. Many times we get so obsessed with the fruit that we don't look at the root.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And God cares. He cares about the root. I'm always so amazed by how much God cares. You know, whenever I approach him a lot of times, and I don't know where this comes from, honestly, but many times I just expect him to be like, get it together, Amanda. Just get it together. Yeah, but he's so kind, and he wants us to get curious, like you said, curious about what the source is, what the root is. Anytime where I'm dealing With something, a fruit in my life that I don't like. It's many times it's hard for me to come to God because I'm afraid of how he's going to respond. And so many times he's like, you know, Amanda, where did this come from? Think back to where this came from. And I. I just think that what you're saying helps us to get curious about the root of things. And that's actually something that deliverance taught me. You know, it taught me that you were like, we are the sum. We are the sum of all the decisions we've made, but all the things that have happened to us in our lives and all. And all the decisions even of our ancestors.

[A]

Right? That's a weird concept for a lot of people, but it's deeply biblical.

[B]

It is. It is.

[A]

You look at the Old Testament, it says that. That the sins of the father will go to. What is it? The fourth generation.

[B]

Third and fourth generation.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Yeah. And we see that. We actually see that demonstrated epigenetics. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Science.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

See, in science now, yeah, you see.

[B]

It and it's like, yeah, you can see it clear as day. Not only is it biblical and played out in scripture, but you. You also see it like, it's like, yeah, you have anger issues, just like your dad had anger issues, just like your grandfather had anger issues. Like, I mean, it's clear as day, right? But a lot of these things, they're generational curses. They're things that are passed down generationally. But it's like, we have to get curious about these things. Like, where did this come from? So many times we respond with shame, right? You know, like, I'm just so ashamed. And so we won't approach God because we're afraid of how he's going to respond, because we feel shame. But Jesus died so that that shame is broken, so that we can approach him boldly. Right? We can come boldly to the throne of grace. And, you know, fear has to do with punishment, but perfect love casts out all fear. His perfect love is there for us in that moment. And so shame ceases in his presence. And when the shame is gone, that's when we can get curious and say, where did this come from? Did this start with me? Did this start in my childhood? What. You know, what messages were sent to me when I was a teenager, when I was coming of age?

[A]

Right, right.

[B]

What. What is it that I believed? Or did this come generationally? Like, I need to get to the source. I need to get to the root of it. And so I really hope that anybody who's listening is encouraged to look at where this came from. Don't just look at the fruit and feel ashamed about that. Look at the root. Look at the root. Even, you know. You know, David was known to be a man after God's own heart, you know, but after what he did with Bathsheba, we saw so many consequences with his children. Right. And so even though we have forgiveness of sins, and even though we walk with the Lord many times, we still have to deal with the consequences of it. But through the power of Jesus, we have the ability to break curses.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And so we're not victims. We actually have the ability to apply authority in these areas as long as we know what they are. And so a good prayer to even pray is, God, show me the root. Whatever that pressing thing is in your heart, whatever that pressing thing is that keeps coming up, you keep coming back to this one thing. God, show me the root. And I know that there's some people even listening right now. They're like, oh, my goodness. Like, this seems like such a small thing. Like, my body image issues seem like such a small thing. That's a big thing to God.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Ask God the root of it. Because what you may not realize is that your mom dealt with it and your grandmother dealt with it, and her. Her mother dealt with it. This is generational and needs to be broken.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, and he maybe. Maybe even realize something that happened to you in your childhood, A word that someone said that that lie was introduced, that you're not beautiful. So many times we think that certain things God doesn't care about, but God cares even about the little things, and he wants you to have full authority. Like I said, the enemy will take territory anywhere where you're unwilling to take authority, and he wants to take authority in those areas so that you can experience the abundant life that he died to give you.

[A]

Amen. Amen. Yeah. So often I think we're just motivated by the things that have happened to us instead of using them for good. And I think it says that God can take what was intended for evil and. And use it for good.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I think sometimes we can. We think maybe we have to do something to get it to that place. But God's working behind the scenes, whether we acknowledge it or not. You know, like, my kids go to bed and the house is a freaking mess, and I will go and clean up all the toys, and they will wake up the next morning and not even remember the mess. They just Made, Right?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it's like every time I do that, the Lord reminds me God is working behind the scenes and cleaning up messes that I don't even know he's cleaning up.

[B]

It's so good.

[A]

And so God can take what was intended for evil. Even the mistakes, even the messes I made, even all the toys I threw all over my floor in college, even all the toys I threw all over my floor in that divorce. And what he can do is he can actually go behind the scenes, not needing any credit for it, just because he's a loving father, and clean it up for me and then use it. It.

[B]

Absolutely. Absolutely. And you know, one other thing I wanted to mention was that God's a big boy. He can handle all of our emotions.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

He can handle our feelings.

[A]

He doesn't need our cute little prayers.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

Our religiosity.

[B]

Yeah. We just. A lot of it has to do with how we were parented and how we were fathered. Right. And so if you grew up without a father, it's easy for you to believe that God is an absent father and that he doesn't care. Or if you grew up with a very angry father, it's easy for you to believe that if you come into God's presence, he's just going to bring his fist down on you. And so a lot of how we're parented, we impute on the character of God. When God is a perfect father, a perfect father, he knows how to perfectly love us in that moment. And sometimes it will be correction. So I've had a few heavenly spankings, okay? I have. But sometimes it's. It's something so gentle. Sometimes it's a push of curiosity. Where did that come from? Right. But he can handle it. Right. We see this even in the life of David, throughout the Psalms.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

David seems crazy. You know, one moment he's like, God, you know, where are you? Why have you forsaken me? My enemies are overtaking me, you know? And then another moment, he's like, yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, you are with me. Your rod and staff, they comfort me. He understands what it's like to process emotions with God in his presence. And that's the thing, the difference between righteous anger and unholy anger is whether you. Whether or not you process it with God.

[A]

Whoa.

[B]

You know, whether you take it to the Lord. Right. There's. There is a filter through which we can live our lives fully. Human. Right. We have emotions, we have feelings, but in such a way that even those are purified. Even those bear good fruit. Right. Jesus did it. He shows us that it's possible he was fully God, yet fully human. He had a full human experience. He had all of the emotions. But what made the difference is that he processed all those things with his father. We have the ability to process those things with God. And so, yeah, I just. I know that in my own experience, I have had a healthy fear of the Lord, which is good. And then there's also an unhealthy fear of the Lord to where you feel like you can't come to him. And so it actually pushes you further into the enemy's plan for your life.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because you don't want to simply be undone before the Lord.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

Be vulnerable. Be naked and unashamed. And that's what the garden looks like. It looks like I can be fully exposed. He can see all of my feelings as they arise. But I'm safe, right? I'm safe here. He'll give me context for it. He'll direct me. He'll lead me. He'll be my good father.

[A]

Amen. Amen. It's so good. Yeah. So I just want to encourage you guys listening if. If you feel like there's no hope for you. If you feel like. Man, my. My past, my traumas, they're too much for the Lord. God takes what was intended for evil and uses it for good every time. Nothing's wasted.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

There's a reason why after James and John want to genocide the Samaritans, he gives them the nickname the Sons of Thunder. It's like he rebukes them for sure. That wasn't a good thing, right? We don't want to genocide people. But he says, oh, you want to rain down fire so much? You want to be like Elijah, you little sons of thunder, you. Like, he can. He can take it all and use it all. And also, Richard, could you look up for me real fast? Mike Signorelli's ministry where he has breakers? It's a. It's a deliverance ministry. And any other. Do you know any other deliverance ministries that would be good for people to check out if they're looking for deliverance?

[B]

Yes. So look up Only God Revival.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Online. And that. That's Leah and her ministry. And then also look up Beth Tucker.

[A]

Beth Tucker.

[B]

Bev. Bev Tucker Tucker, the most incredible deliverance minister that I know.

[A]

Awesome. Yeah. And what did you find that, Richard? It just says gospel clarity. And then let me go. Deliverance. Yeah, that's probably it. Yeah. So it's V1 Church, Mike Signorelli in deliverance ministry. You can find. He actually has, like a map where he's got these delivery ministers all over the country.

[B]

So I love Mike. Mike Signorelli. His stuff is so good.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Really, really good.

[A]

Got to get him on the podcast soon. Mike, if you're listening, get on the podcast. Get on over to Dallas. Awesome. Any. Anything else? Anything else you want to encourage or maybe we just close in prayer? I'd love for you to pray for people listening.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. I just feel so led to remind whoever's listening that God is with you. He's with you. I think that's been the theme of our entire conversation, that he's with us. And if he's with us, then who can be against us? If he's for us, who can be against us? He's with you. He's with you. There's this lie that is coming into your mind that's it's almost nagging, this belief that God is not with you, that he's not on your side. Maybe he's not for you. Based on what you've experienced. God is with you. He's with you in the storm. He's. He's with you in the valley. He's with you when it's difficult. He's with you when you're encountering all kinds of spiritual attacks. He hasn't abandoned you. He's with you. And so I just want to pray that God's presence would fall on you right now, his manifest presence, that you would feel his nearness, that every blockage in the spirit will be broken right now. In the name of Jesus, you, blocking spirit, be broken. In the name of Jesus, I rebuke you in Jesus name name. I declare heavenly rains to rain down from heaven on the sons and daughters under the sound of my voice. That there would be a refreshing. Times of refreshing will come. You will feel God's presence. You will hear God's voice. You will dream dreams. You will have visions. You will walk in authority. You will cast out demons, but you will know the Lord and the and the Lord will know you. You'll have an understanding that God is with you. That's where your power comes from. That's where your authority lies. God is with you. Father, I pray that you would give an awareness while they're cleaning their kitchen, while they're driving, while they're walking their dogs, while they're picking up their kids, that you are with them while they're in the middle of their sin, remind them that you are with them. God, I just pray that you would surround your sons and daughters under the sound of my voice with your all consuming love. That they would understand that perfect love casts out all fear. I command shame to leave in the name of Jesus. Condemnation to leave in the name of Jesus. The voice of the accuser be silenced. In the name of Jesus and God, I pray that you would open up blind eyes, give your sons and daughters spiritual sight. May they not be blinded by the enemy, blinded by the physical reality. Father, I pray that they will be able to see and discern what's happening in the spiritual realm. That they would be like snipers in the spirit. That they would not be blind or ignorant to the devices of the enemy, but they would know what you are doing. So, Lord, I pray that you bring them to the forefront of what it is that you're doing. That they would be a part of the wave, that they would be a part of the revival. God, you're doing something big. And I pray that you would call all of us to be a part of it. In Jesus mighty name I pray. Amen.

[A]

Amen. Thanks, Amanda.

[B]

Yes. I'm so happy.