Episode 26: The Jesus People Podcast | Riaan Swiegelaar Part 2: End-Time Agenda & Spiritual Warfare

Summary

Jesus People Podcast: Episode 26 — Riaan Swiegelaar Part 2: End-Time Agenda & Spiritual Warfare

Date: July 7, 2025
Host: Ryan Miller | Guest: Riaan Swiegelaar

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Episode Overview

In part two of his interview with Riaan Swiegelaar, a former leader of a global Satanic organization who encountered Jesus and left occultism behind, host Ryan Miller dives deep into the spiritual realities of end-time agendas, spiritual warfare, and practical ways to cultivate protection for oneself and one’s family. The conversation flows from personal testimony and supernatural encounters to hard-hitting insights about the spiritual battle affecting the Church, media, and the world today. This episode is rich in practical advice, biblical wisdom, and urgent encouragement for Christians facing today’s dark spiritual climate.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Ongoing Spiritual Attack: Testimony and Reality (00:00–07:53)

• Riaan recounts his background as a leader in Satanism and details how spiritual attacks and agendas were discussed and strategically implemented.
• Ryan shares intense spiritual attacks that affected him and his family after the first episode with Riaan aired:
  • Sudden illness, insomnia, and frightening occurrences (“I start almost stepping on snakes... almost stepping on another snake... we’ve been getting cooked over here.” – Ryan, 03:08–04:35).
• Riaan explains attacks are often targeted at those disrupting darkness:
  “People who are a real threat glow up in certain areas and then those people are targeted specifically. And the first line of attack is to make you fearful and find what matters to you... your family, things like disease.” (Riaan, 04:47–06:49)
• Spiritual reality check: The need for intentional prayer covering and awareness, especially when exposing the works of darkness.

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2. Riaan’s Radical Conversion — From Darkness to Light (09:16–18:19)

• A powerful, supernatural encounter with Jesus:
  • Ten days before his conversion, a Christian woman embraced him with immense, unconditional love during a radio interview, making a strong impression on him (09:16–11:30).
  • While preparing for a ritual in the lower temple of the Satanic church, Riaan experienced an overwhelming presence and saw a man in the room: “He said to me, ‘I am Yeshua of Nazareth…’ and he flooded me with so much love…I recognized it from that woman at the radio station because she had Jesus inside her.” (Riaan, 12:54–13:46)
  • Riaan instantly knew he had to follow Christ and spent months in deliverance and conversation with God afterwards.
  • His story led to media coverage of his conversion, bringing the name of Jesus onto the front pages of newspapers.
  • “Thousands and thousands of Christians around the world were praying for you by your name because your face was so public… it was an answer to prayer.” (17:27–18:19)

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3. Practical Strategies: Spiritual Warfare, Authority, and the Armor of God (18:45–29:21)

• Standing in Authority:
  • Riaan emphasizes claiming and standing in spiritual authority in Christ is central (23:43–23:58).
  • Attacks often begin with intimidation and fear tactics (snakes, frightening events, etc.), but these are not direct attacks, rather attempts to “play with your mind”.
  • “Do not fear” is repeatedly stressed as the foundation of spiritual resistance (24:24–25:10).
• The Full Armor of God — Not Optional (Ephesians 6:13):
  • “Wherefore take unto you the whole armor of God. The word whole is of utmost importance... doesn’t say some of the armor, but the full armor.” (Riaan, 26:49–27:31)
  • Evangelism as part of spiritual protection: “If you do not do that, you do not have the full armor on, the enemy will attack you.” (Riaan, 27:31–28:15)
  • Ryan observes: “People who don’t share the gospel are going into battle without shoes on.” (Ryan, 29:22–29:34)

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4. Open Doors and Spiritual Vulnerability (31:03–39:49)

• How Satanists Identify and Target:
  • Occultists “scan” areas and individuals (“glow up”) for threats, open doors, and those not fully covered (31:03–32:18).
• Open Doors Explained:
  • “Opening doors that compromise the covenant… is usually unrepentant sin.” (Riaan, 33:03–35:19)
  • Unforgiveness, hidden sin, and involvement in the occult (horoscopes, gambling, substance abuse, etc.) can create openings for attacks.
  • Notable Quote: “The blood of Jesus will never cover that which is meant to be uncovered.” (Riaan, 36:23–36:34)
  • Repentance is central: as soon as sin is confessed, the door is closed and the enemy loses legal grounds.

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5. The Power & Danger of Media and Content (40:14–46:20)

• Satanic Infiltration of Media:
  • Platforms are used for darkness based on the authority and spiritual alignment of those running them.
  • “If the majority of those people are involved with the occult and Satanism, that platform will be used for that purpose.” (Riaan, 41:44–42:06)
  • Urgent call for Christians to fill media with testimony and Bible-based content (42:39–44:28).
  • Media saturation with charged symbols, rituals, and suggestions is intentional and impactful: “There was first a desensitizing… now it is in your face. Bluntly.” (Riaan, 44:28–45:36)
  • Watching/participating in such content, especially without spiritual covering, opens the soul to demonic oppression.

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6. Deliverance, Repentance, and Ongoing Sanctification (46:48–49:45)

• How to Respond to Demonic Influence via Media:
  • Simple, crucial advice: “You repent… you are covered in the blood of Jesus. You begin consuming the word of God.” (46:48–47:09)
  • Romans 8: Nothing can separate us from God when we are in Christ.

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7. The Satanic Nine-Year Agenda, End-Times, and Coming Persecution (49:45–66:48)

• Satanic Agenda Updates:
  • Every 9 years, the global Satanic network updates its agenda. Current focuses: division in the Church, targeting youth and media, preparation for “one world religion” by 2027.
  • “What I’ve seen with my own eyes... there’s going to be a summit on world religion in 2027... not one [Christian] will agree on what the true gospel of Jesus Christ is. Therefore it will not be considered because they will say, you can’t even agree on what your religion is.” (Riaan, 59:01–62:56)
  • Persecution is intensifying: “When I left Satanism in May 2022… I said, in 2025 people will be arrested on the street for praying for other people. People will be prosecuted for being Christians in Europe. I say that because I saw it on the agenda.” (Riaan, 61:02–62:31)
  • The current agenda aims for a unified “one world religion,” likely Islam, where Christianity will become illegal in public spaces (63:39–65:35).
  • Extensive prophetic warnings line up with Riaan’s firsthand experiences and the Biblical description of end-time events.

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8. Unity in the Church and the Importance of Love (66:17–82:06)

• The antidote to Satan’s strategy is unity and love within the Church:
  • “If we’re fighting each other, we can’t fight the enemy.” (Riaan, 66:17–66:31)
  • The drive for division within Christianity (YouTube ministries, discernment content, “exposing” fellow Christians) is fueled by the Satanic agenda (73:38–80:59).
  • Humility and self-examination for leaders and content creators is crucial.
  • “Every time a Christian uses scripture against another Christian to attack… you’re actually a tool in the hand of the enemy.” (Riaan, 75:29–76:07)
  • Discernment and prayer, not public exposure, are the biblical ways to respond to error.
  • Ryan’s passionate plea: “We are literally… writing the demonic playbook ministries.” (Ryan, 79:30–80:19)
  • Riaan: “If you can get those 20 Christian leaders [at the summit] to agree on what the foundation is, then we are okay. But… we are not okay. I see how many ministries are built on tearing other people down.” (Riaan, 73:38–74:29)
  • Using ministry for personal gain or division is the real use of the Lord’s name in vain (81:09–81:22).

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9. Final Words on Identity, Endurance, and Encouragement (84:22–87:04)

• Riaan affirms the importance of intimacy with Jesus and knowing identity in Christ above all.
• Steps for protection and remaining effective:
  • Repent daily, seek the Holy Spirit’s guidance.
  • Practice unity and pray actively.
  • Be bold but humble in testimony; focus on the leading of God over public opinion or virality.
• Concluding prayer for unity, covering, and protection for families, churches, and listeners (87:04–89:20).
  • “Father God, we come to you in the mighty, mighty name of Jesus… We stand against every attack of the enemy… Cover every family, every listener, in Jesus’ name. Amen.” (Riaan closing prayer, 88:35–89:20)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On the nature of spiritual attack:

• “These are all fear tactics. That is not really attack yet. Those are just intimidation.”
  — Riaan Swiegelaar (23:58)

On the completeness of the armor of God:

• “The word ‘whole’ is of utmost importance... when the Holy Spirit tells you, go share, but you don’t, your armor is compromised, and you are open for attacks.”
  — Riaan Swiegelaar (26:49–27:31)

On media & spiritual influence:

• “There’s so many loaded satanic symbols… it was a progression… first a desensitizing, now it is in your face.”
  — Riaan Swiegelaar (44:28–45:36)

On unity as a spiritual safeguard:

• “If we’re fighting each other, we can’t fight the enemy. Hello?”
  — Riaan Swiegelaar (66:17–66:31)

On ministry motives:

• “Can I ask you something? Is that not using the Lord’s name in vain? For your own vanity.”
  — Riaan Swiegelaar (81:11–81:19)

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Essential Timestamps

• Ryan’s Testimony of spiritual attack: 03:08–04:43
• Riaan's supernatural encounter with Jesus: 12:54–15:00
• Full Armor of God explained: 26:49–29:21
• “Open doors” and spiritual vulnerability: 33:03–36:34
• Infiltration of media and symbols: 41:44–45:36
• How to deal with demonic influence via media: 46:48–47:09
• Satanic End-Time Agenda and church division: 59:01–66:48
• Call for unity and warning against content ministries of division: 73:38–80:59
• Final prayer for protection and unity: 87:04–89:20

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Conclusion & Takeaways

This episode is a vital wake-up call to the spiritual realities behind the chaos of our times. Riaan’s journey from darkness to radical faith in Christ, combined with his insider knowledge of the Satanic agenda, underscores the urgent need for:

• Deep intimacy with Jesus and reliance on the Holy Spirit
• Consistent repentance and spiritual self-examination
• Wearing the complete armor of God, including an outward witness and love
• Strengthening unity in the Church; refusing to participate in division or ministries built on tearing others down
• Active, faith-filled engagement with media, redeeming platforms for Christ

Pray fervently, love deeply, and walk in humble authority — for “we fight from victory, not for victory” (Ryan, 01:12).

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Resources / Connect with Riaan:
Website: deliverance4me.org
Social Media: @riaanspiegelaar

“By the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of our testimony, we shall overcome.” (Revelation 12:11)

Transcript

[Rion]

I was involved in Satanism. I was the leader of a Satanic organization. I saw this satanic agenda with my own eyes. I was in meetings discussing the satanic agenda with other satanic organizations around the world.

[Ryan]

All right, guys, you asked for this to have Ron back on the podcast and holy smokes, dude. It's been such a wild last month since you came on. This was our by far, our most watched episode by far. Hanging close.

[Rion]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

And I've had people reaching out and being like, this has changed the way I pray for my kids. This changed think like my thought life. And so thank you for that. Really excited to have you back on. I've got a bunch of questions for you, but we should just recap what's happened then. We need to pray and. And ask for covering because we're fighting from victory, not for.

[Rion]

Yes, Amen.

[Ryan]

All right, man, we're back on. If you guys knew just what it took to get this. The tech of this podcast dialed, which is very simple tech, but we definitely have an enemy in opposition. And Rion, I don't even think I've told you everything that's gone on the last month since our last podcast. It has been insane. So good to have you back on, though. We're not going to cower. We're not going to be scared. We're fighting victory. So let's rock.

[Rion]

Yeah. God didn't call us for, like to have a spirit of fear and you're welcome to my world is all I can say. You know, what's interesting is what. What I'm experiencing and the kind of attacks that. That, you know, is targeted at people like what we're doing. I used to do the same thing to other people. So I think that kind of the ironic and funny part. So I know exactly how it works and why. So God has very much equipped me to have had the experiences I did and to. Because I was pretty much working for the devil for 20 years. I think I mentioned that, you know, in total, like, if we add up the. The new age and the occult and Satanism altogether. So the. The experience that it gave me and the knowledge of how it works is very valuable today. And I mean, I can only pray that. That God uses it to empower people. And besides being, you know, like, it should be a reality check for. For followers of Christ and for the body of Christ.

[Ryan]

Yes, absolutely, man. Yeah, it definitely was a reality check for us. Like, I. Man, the. The night that we did the podcast. Let me just take you through a sequence a time, please.

[Rion]

A Sequence, please.

[Ryan]

That night, my eye blows up. The whole thing just turns red. Like, I'm not kidding. Then. Then we're laying in bed that night, and my wife and I are looking at each other at, like, three in the morning. Like, we're wide awake. Like, not. Not anxious, not scared. We're just wide awake. The next night, same thing. Can't sleep the whole night. And now we're like, oh, like, something's up. So now we start praying. The next night, my children start vomiting and, like, diarrhea. Like. Like, I've never seen a stomach flu like this in my life. They're, like, comatose in their beds. It was the saddest thing, dude. Then my wife gets hit with it, and so now she's on, like, day five of not sleeping, right? Because we were up all night, Literally the whole night. People are like, okay, literally. I'm like, literally. We were up the whole night with our kids. Did not sleep for a third night in a row. Then she gets it. And then my throat blows up. I go on a film trip and my throat blows up, and all of a sudden, like, my. My uvula is, like, filled with pus. And I'm like, oh. Oh, my gosh. This just doesn't stop, dude. And then my wife gets hit with crazy insomnia. And so it's. It's just been, oh, the other thing, dude. I start almost stepping on snakes. I'm not joking. I'm walking outside. I was on the phone with the buddy, and I'm. He's like, how you doing? I'm like, dude, we've been getting cooked over here. And. And I'm telling him all the attacks, and I almost step on a snake, and I freak out on the phone, right? Two minutes later, I almost step on another snake. He like, you need to get, like, prayer covering. So that's why I'm reaching out to all my prayer partners. Like, guys, we need you bad.

[Rion]

So.

[Ryan]

And you said that you used to do this to people. Explain that.

[Rion]

Yes. So before I do that, I just also want to mention, and this is something I'm definitely going to put out, is that this is what the Holy Spirit also revealed to me recently, was that when I get invited, you know, for. For podcasts and shows, because I get a lot of invites, and I would say about 10% of it, I would say yes to as I'm late. But even for those, I should actually start asking people, like, do you have covering? Are you prepared for what is coming with talking about these things and exposing it? So to put it in a nutshell, so these, these, these very much things with astral projection, firstly in astral scanning, where people in the occult and Satanism would scan an area. Right. And it's almost like these, these pins, if I can put it that way. Or I'm trying to you to explain it on broad level. But so people who are real threat glow up, you know, in certain areas and then those people are targeted specifically. And the first line of attack with that is to make you fearful and to, to kind of find out what is the thing that matters to you. Your case with family, that would matter. So through your family, things like disease. It's very popular in spiritual warfare from the Satanist side to actually do that to make you fearful and frustrated because then they can launch the next level. And then obviously serpents is unfortunately, I mean, they still created as God's creatures, but they very much on that frequency of the enemy and the devil's work. So it's, it's. Yeah, it's, it's very easy to utilize that to physically attack people.

[Ryan]

Dude. I, I like that's. It's gonna be hard for people to believe. I mean, I just.

[Rion]

I know.

[Ryan]

Snake. Snake. Snake. I'm like, what is happening? This is crazy. And you were telling me earlier, man, that our podcast got circulated. Tell me a little bit more about that.

[Rion]

Yeah, so I still have quite a few connections in the satanic community both in South Africa and overseas, especially with people who want to actually get out, but, but they are bound there. So they sometimes send me screenshots and information that is circulating in the network pertaining to me. So our podcast actually got on the radar of the Church of Satan in America and also at tst, the Satanic Temple, and also in local satanic groups. So I see that as a compliment, by the way, because it, it means we're actually doing something effective for the kingdom, otherwise we won't feature, you know, on their radar at all.

[Ryan]

Right, well, we're just putting out notice right now that we're covered by the blood of Jesus. Of course people were like, after what happened to you, that first podcast, you're gonna go, you're gonna have him back on. And, and I'm like 100% we're having Rion back on. And now we're going to expose it more because now people have been sending me questions like, hey, if you have Rihanna asking these questions, and I'm like, let's go, man. Like, we're going to work. Let's. Let's blow the lid on this thing. The one thing that I. I was a little bummed we didn't get to dive a little bit more deep into last time just because of time constraints, was your conversion story. I know we talked about it, but I feel like I was like. After the podcast, I was like, man, I'd love to hear more of those details. So almost as if you're, like, telling me for the first time. And if you. If you're listening now and you didn't watch the first episode, you probably want to go back and watch our first interview with Rion. I believe it's like episode 22 of the Jesus People podcast or something like that. You can. You can look it up. But, man, the. The conversion experience was pretty radical. Going from the head of the Satanic church to then encountering Jesus. And so could you just paint that with a little bit more color for us? Like, take us into what you were doing that day. And then, like, I want to even hear the conversation that happened in that room. Like, just take. Take me fully into it. Like, I'm fascinated.

[Rion]

Sure. So there wasn't as much of a conversation, although there was a few words, but it was more of an experience of the love of Christ in that moment. But so I think what is important to mention here is that 10 days prior to that encounter and experience, I had a. I had a interview at a radio station, and I was doing an interview as a guest of the satanic church. So being the spokesperson at the time, and in the studio, there was a woman who kind of came in on the side who worked there, and she embraced me. She came and suddenly hugged me. And that time of my life, I didn't actually allow people close to me, so I didn't actually see her coming. So the next moment I was looking, there was this woman hugging me. And it was the most beautiful, intense hug. And my connection with her at that time was this was somebody that was organizing the interview for the radio station. So I had to send her some pictures two days later to promote the show. And then I noticed she's a Christian. And this left such an impression and a shock on me because no Christian has really ever showed me that much unconditional love. And it was one of the most beautiful, intimate hugs that I've ever experienced in my life. And it left. You see, it left the impression. So forward. Forward then to eight days after that, which was the 24th of May, 2022, I was kind of told or given a task to perform a ritual for the Satanic church. But also for the Satanic network around the world. Because something that we can talk about today is there's a constant Satanic agenda playing out and it changes every nine years. And part of that in the current agenda was for, for. For all Satanic organizations to see whether the Antichrist has been born yet or if it will be a physical person or will it be something like AI or what would it be? So the intent of the ritual that evening was for me to see into the spirit world, like really deeply, intensely. And because of my background in the occult and because of my background in psychic work, they thought it me to do it for, for the local, you know, for South Africa. So that evening I booked out a part of the Satanic church. There's, there's an area that was referred to as the. The lower temple. So this was a part of the Satanic church that was under, under the parking area of the building. So it was really underground and it was a very dark room that was used for rituals at the time. So I was by myself and I was preparing for the ritual. So I never actually got to do it, but in the preparation of it and, and like I said this, this is a room that there was no other lights in it, so you had to light it up with candles or use torches to light it up. So when I got round to lighting the second candle of five candles that's in a circle in preparation, this whole room actually lit up as if somebody was shining spotlights into the room. So I turned around and this man was there. He's he, like in person. Like in, in person, not a vision, in person. Man was there. And I asked him, who are you? Because obviously my, my initial thought because of my background was that this is now a demon that's entering the space before I even started. So he said to me, and these were the only words that were spoken. He said to me, I am Yeshua of Nazareth. And yeah, I know I still like every time. And I mean, I. I know people, people even judged me like for, for crying so much. And. But there's no other way. I'm like, every time I think of that moment, I still get emotional till today. So I say to him, I don't believe you. You're going to have to prove it then. And he flooded me with so much love. And you see, I recognized it from that woman at the radio station because she had Jesus inside her, you see, So I could recognize it as this, this is Jesus. This is really him. And it was so intense and powerful that I fell to my knees because every knee shall bow. And I was in his presence probably for two to three minutes and he was gone. So that was it. And because you see, I was in a place in my life at that time where I was, I was so happy. I thought, so if you would ask me that time, even a day before that encounter, are you happy? I would say yes, because I have money and I have houses and I have two awesome Harley Davidsons and I have cars. And that was where I was. And I had all the access to all the, the. I can't say the word on the podcast, but the white type of powder drug that you can, you know. So all of that stuff, I had everything. But I didn't realize that there was a Christ size hole in my heart until that moment. And that is when the other thing is the world went quiet. Like the sound of the outside world. Everything went quiet. Even on my way home. Like I immediately stopped everything I was busy with and I drove home and I was exhausted. Like I was so drained that for four days I stayed in bed. It was like I didn't have energy. And then one morning at 3 o' clock in the morning, God woke me up and told me, go to the beach. And I thought at the time, well, I'm already going insane, so I might as well take the scenic route. And I, I went to the beach and I started having conversations with God about so many things. And I wrote all of those down. It is in book format that's hopefully coming out later this year. So over, over months and months, I had all these conversations. And at the very same time, the Satanic church was trying to get hold of me to get feedback on this ritual that I didn't do. So I had to go in and then resign from the Satanic church. And I also told him about what I encountered. And I said, there's no choice for me then but to follow Christ because Jesus is real. I didn't even believe that he was real until that meeting, that encounter. And it was almost like, I think I mentioned this in a previous episode that we did. So for almost 10 months I went through deliverance, different deliverance sessions where a lot of things became very clear to me. But it, yeah, it was just, I mean, I never knew God. And I struggled with, why did that happen? And then God showed me. Thousands and thousands of Christians around the world were praying for you by your name because your face was so public. So it was an answer to prayer. And because you also have to remember at that Time of my life. I didn't go to churches, you know, and I didn't seek because I didn't believe God existed. So I didn't go to churches. I didn't speak to Christians. The only way for God to reach me was that encounter. And I mean it. It changed my life forever.

[Interjecting Listener]

Foreign.

[Ryan]

It's beautiful, man.

[Rion]

And.

[Ryan]

And then what? Because what I want to get into is. I want to get into how do we defend? How do we defend against. Clearly, that's on my heart right now. I'm like, how do I defend right now? But I'm sure there was attack. I'm sure you experienced lots. Yeah, take me into that and then take me into your journey of learning on the other side now. Now you've left the dark side, you've gone to the light side. Now what do you learn about how to defend?

[Rion]

So what happened to you? So it was. It was amazing how the people who facilitated my deliverance came over my path. God literally seen them. A few days after, like I met in one of my walks on the beach, in my conversations, this person came across my way and said to me that he wants to help me. And I mean, it wasn't public knowledge yet. I had to keep this all quiet for a month so that the Satanic church can prepare statements and all of that. That very first video I made that went viral around the world was just actually a video for me to say to the media, this is why I left Satanism. This is what happened. And leave me alone. Because I was being harassed by the press and the media because they heard rumors that I left and why, you know, they wanted to know. So. But the beautiful thing about that and the way the story was covered, Jesus's name was on the front page of so many newspapers.

[Interjecting Listener]

Amen. Amen.

[Ryan]

That's amazing.

[Rion]

But it was very tough. I'm going to be very honest. It was a very, very difficult time, especially that. That first 10, 11 months. And Jesus kept on telling me that, don't look at people's comments on Facebook, don't look at articles, just focus on me. So, I mean, since that day, it's been just over three years now. So since that day, I've. With the exception of nine days, I've spent three to four hours every morning with God in conversation, reading scripture, talking, getting to know the Holy Spirit's voice of conviction and of discernment and all those things. So it was a schooling period for me, especially that first year, because I also had so many legal battles from Satanists who I'm talking about 32 cease and desist interdicts, gag orders, that I shouldn't be able to disclose the identity of people. And it's never been my heart to do that. But the first year was very much a legal thing, and I eventually got a legal team to help me, and it basically came down to if this does go to court, they will have to show their faces, you know, to. And there's no way it's come to the light.

[Interjecting Listener]

Yeah.

[Rion]

And there's no way. And, and also, I know we're going off topic, but for a year, I walked around with a firearm, like, on me. And one day, God said to me, you know what, Rion? If you are obedient, you will be safe. And it was, it was a really beautiful day because I went and I surrendered my, my firearm to the police station, and I stopped looking over my shoulder. So that was just over two years ago. And God has protected me, Ryan. Like, you have no idea. And I feel completely safe and at peace, and I know I'm covered and protected.

[Interjecting Listener]

Amen.

[Ryan]

Amen. Well, even just for the listeners out there, let's continue to pray for Rion, pray for even our family. As you know, this, this second interview goes out, and then, Rion, I'd love for you to teach us how to pray, how to, how to war. There's a few things I, I, I'd like to get into. I'd like to get in really practical. I'd like to get in, like, everything you've learned. How do we cover our families? How do we cover our minds? And then why is, why is media so important to the kingdom of darkness? Why is the devil in Hollywood take into how we break strongholds off of our lives? So that's like four things right there. Let's see where the Holy Spirit takes it. But I'd love to get really practical for the listener right here. How do we take our thoughts captive? How do we take control of our mind? How do we take authority and pull down demonic strongholds? You know, you said, like, like there's certain people that are lighting up that are the enemies of the kingdom of darkness, that are advancing the kingdom of light. And so he said, I'm probably lighting up like a Christmas tree right now with these interviews, and there's attacks. So for me, personally, like, I'm, I'm legitimately very curious and need to know, how do I protect my family, who is clearly very attacked? How do I protect myself? How do I protect my mind, my sleep? What would you say to that, okay.

[Rion]

It is all about authority and claiming it and standing in it. That is, that is first and foremost very important. So also remember those very first things that happen, you know, so like the, the experiences with snakes. And I know you haven't had it, but, but there's also things like sometimes things are rattled in your home and there would be physical manifestations of things, and those are all fear tactics. So that is, that is not really attack yet. Okay? So those are just intimidation methods. And remember, it's, it's, it's very much about bells and whistles. And the devil is a showman. The devil is, and the devil corrupts certain things that God has created and imitates it and wants to play with your mind and wants to bring it to a place of fear. So the very first rule is not to be fearful. And it is repeated in the Bible so many times that that phrase for a reason, so do not fear. It is so important when it comes to spiritual warfare. And like I said, the other thing is about the authority that we got from Jesus Christ and who we are in Christ to know that at all times, because the enemy does not want us to know that. So something I want to, to mention and, and I know this, this specific thing will answer quite, I think, a few questions when it comes to spiritual warfare. And it's in the Bible because all the answers, believe it or not, right, is in the Bible. So when it comes to the enemy and attacks, and attacks on our minds, on our lives, on our blessings that God wants for his children, all of it. Paul speaks very clearly in Ephesians 6 about the armor of God. But you see here, I just want to point out a few things here if I can. And this is in Ephesians 6, it's from about verse 13 onwards. Right. Let me just open it actually, because I want these two words specifically here that I want to mention. And it's there for a reason. So in the King James Version, Ephesians 6, 13 says, Wherefore take unto you the whole armor of God. So the word whole is of utmost importance. So what that means, and this is how we, we, we've, this is how we effectively fight against the enemy. Right? It doesn't say take onto some of the armor of God. It doesn't say take on the armor, the word whole. And in some translations it says the full armor.

[Interjecting Listener]

Yes.

[Rion]

Okay. So when, when my ministry partner, myself and she's also spoken about this. So when we go and teach spiritual warfare at churches, people love to bring up yes, but the armor of God and, and they focus on the, the helmet of, you know, salvation and the, the breastplate of righteousness and the belt of truth and the sword, etc. So many people forget about the feet of the willingness to spread the gospel.

[Interjecting Listener]

Yeah.

[Rion]

So if you do not do that, you do not have the full armor on, the enemy will attack you. So when the Holy Spirit tells you, that person over there that needs to hear about Jesus and you do not listen, your armor is compromised and you are open for attacks. So I want to ask people, and I ask this often when asked that you tell somebody about Jesus, because brother or sister, if you don't, you do not have the full armor on or the whole armor and you are open for attacks. Chills.

[Interjecting Listener]

Wow.

[Ryan]

That's. I've never thought of it that way. I've thought because a lot of people would be like, I'm just not an evangelist. Like, that's just not my spiritual gift. I have the gift of hospitality, but I'm just not an evangelist. And it's like, no, no, no, no, no, that's not a spiritual gift. That's a command. That's, that is that you're wearing.

[Interjecting Listener]

Wow.

[Rion]

So most of, most of the questions that, that we, we gonna look at and most of the questions that people ask me, this is the answer. How do you effectively stand against the enemy? How do you stand against attacks? The full armor of God. The full. And I'm gonna say this again, not parts of it, because people, people think, oh, wow, you know, the helmet of salvation and the, and it's also cool and it's powerful. Paul says specifically full and whole for a reason. It is written for a reason. So do you understand what I'm saying?

[Interjecting Listener]

Yes.

[Ryan]

Because if you're going into battle and you're like, well, I don't need the sword, I don't need the breastplate, I don't need the helmet, I don't need the shoes. Like, literally, people who don't share the gospel are going into battle without shoes on.

[Rion]

Yes.

[Ryan]

It's like, what? So you are going to stay.

[Rion]

You're going to stay, you're going to step on thorns and snakes and scorpions and what's going to happen?

[Ryan]

You're going to lose.

[Rion]

You can't be in a battle. This is the other part. So imagine soldiers in like, let's say in today's time you were in a battle, you're on the front line and then you are surprised when these bullets been shot at you. It's like, oh, wow, why Is this happening? What's going on? It's like you in a war, dude.

[Ryan]

Yes, yes, of course. Or what? What's this scripture where he says fiery trials come upon you as if something strange were happening to you? It's like, wow, this is so weird.

[Rion]

Yes. Because, because Ryan, the, the more you read the Word, the more you grow closer to the, to God. The, the more you evangelize, the more you do what you are doing and what I'm doing, we are moving to the front lines of the battle. So I'm not surprised. Do you understand that, that people get attacked when they're in that position? Because you're in the front line now.

[Ryan]

Now expose for me because you said something really interesting. That they will like Satanists will do a survey of a city or a block or whatever.

[Rion]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

And people who are charging for the kingdom of God will light up. What does that mean?

[Rion]

So it's, it's not just that, it's other things as well. Because remember, it's about territory and domain in Satanism, that is the main thing. So they will scan areas to see who is a real threat to what they're doing. Because they're also being told the enemy stole. Because. Yeah, because they're also people that are.

[Ryan]

Not just like at a church that are just proclaiming, you know, the gospel on Sunday mornings. It's anybody that's going to go take enemy territory.

[Rion]

Correct.

[Ryan]

Is that.

[Rion]

And okay, so, so what they do is they scan and then they will see. Okay, who is people that's a potential threat to our agenda. Okay. Number one, who is the Christians that have open doors? Because they, they, they appear a different way in the astral. Who is people that's already under demonic influence because they're the most easy, easiest to attack. And then lastly, who are the churches that are not completely covered?

[Ryan]

You mentioned something about open doors. So that was one of my big questions. Because after our interview, our first interview, talking about authority and standing in authority, like I thought I was doing that. I'm like, for sure. Like, like he, like we stand in the blood of Christ. Like I was all fired up after our last interview. Like, like standing in that, that authority and, and, and, and aware that I'm covered by the blood and not taking on fear. But then there was still attack that happened. So then my, my mind went to, oh, open doors. There must have been open doors. What do you make of that?

[Rion]

Yeah, it could be, but I'm not saying it is. But I'll explain how open doors work if, if you Want. Okay.

[Ryan]

Oh, my gosh, I'd love that.

[Rion]

Sure. So if. If we can picture our relationship with God as. Let's say we are sitting in a room where there's a fire going or there's this heating, whatever, it's warm, it's cozy, it's beautiful, it's safe, it's warm, and it's a cold winter's day outside. If I open a door, a window, whatever's going on outside of that room, I'm going to start feeling it will have an effect on the. On. On the ambiance of the room I'm in. So now if we look at our relationship or our covenant that we have with God as that if I open a door to the. To whatever else outside influence it will affect, not everything outside will come in immediately, but I will certainly feel something different in that room when I do that. So opening doors that compromises the covenant is. It can be so many things, but it's usually unrepentant sin. So if you are walking around and the Holy Spirit has. Has convicted you of something and you go like, oh, but I'll deal with this later. I'm not ready now. That would be a form of like an open door. Another thing we have to realize is that when we say I give my heart to God or I give my heart to Jesus, because a lot of Christians say that I have surrendered my heart to Jesus. Okay? So that means that your heart is supposed to be an instrument that doesn't belong to you anymore, that now belongs to God and should be used for his kingdom. He will, through His Holy Spirit, work through your heart to reach people. That's what that means. When I have anything in my heart that prevents that from happening. So I have resentment, or I'm judging other people, or I have bitterness, unforgiveness, that means that your heart does not actually belong to God completely. And that is an open door massively. Do you understand?

[Interjecting Listener]

Wow. Yes.

[Rion]

And that's why every day we have to ask the Holy Spirit to reveal to us, is there anything I need to repent for that is potentially a foothold for the enemy. And then the beautiful thing about that is, though, if you have an open door like that, the moment you acknowledge it and you repent for it, God is faithful and it's because of Jesus Christ, that door is then shut the moment we repent for it, and the familiar spirits and the enemy witness we do that, because then they can't use that against you. Then other types of open doors is hidden sin. So, for instance, let's say you have a secret affair on your phone and you're hiding it, so therefore you know nobody knows about it. Maybe I'm not hurting anybody. But according to what God wants for us, that is wrong. The blood of Christ will never cover something that is meant to be uncovered. By the way.

[Ryan]

Say that again.

[Rion]

The blood of Christ. The blood of Jesus will not cover that. That is meant to be uncovered.

[Ryan]

What does that mean?

[Rion]

It means that. So let's say you are a leader of a church, you're a shepherd, you have the blood of Jesus supposed to cover you and your congregation. But let's say that, that that pastor or that leader watches porn from time to time on his phone, but he hides it. And nobody in his mind, nobody knows about it. So I'm not hurting anybody. But in fact, the covering of your congregation is compromised. Your covenant with God is compromised.

[Ryan]

It doesn't mean your salvation's compromised. We're talking about, we're talking about spiritual covering, the spiritual protection.

[Rion]

Your salvation is not compromised. No, of course not. But you, you should actually repent for that sin. And you should, in your best attempt to not do that anymore. So I'm not saying that if you have sin, you're not covered because we all have sin. We. We all are sinners in need of Jesus every day. But I'm saying that doing something that you are not repenting for because there's shame and guilt around it, the devil, the enemy, will use that, will use that thing that you're hiding that you are actually shameful about against you, and it will compromise your covering. And that's why I'm saying the blood of Jesus will never cover what is meant to be uncovered.

[Interjecting Listener]

Wow. Wow, wow.

[Ryan]

So that's. So if I'm hearing you right, open doors are if you're not saved or if you haven't.

[Rion]

Well, obviously. Yeah.

[Ryan]

Right. Yeah, it's unrepentant sin issues. Those were the two main things I, I heard, was it with a few more proto.

[Rion]

So any involvement in occult activities. So if you like to have your astrology chart drawn up, or you like to read your horoscope, you gamble, you play the lotto, you're gambling, all of those things, those are open doors. What, what about.

[Ryan]

You know, I've seen a lot of people on Instagram talking about how alcohol is called, spirits is. Would you say drugs and alcohol? For sure. Another open door.

[Rion]

Yes. And especially the abuse of alcohol. So I'm not saying having a glass of wine is, Is an issue, but if it is an issue for you and the Holy Spirit has specifically addressed it and you are sinning because you are drinking, and when you drink, then it is an open door.

[Ryan]

Got it, got it, got it. But then when you're getting drunk, then all of a sudden you're, of course.

[Rion]

Now you're massively opening yourself up to, to the spirit world and what's happening around you, and it will. Why do you think there's so many incidents of aggression and sexual immorality when people drink specifically?

[Ryan]

Demonstration.

[Rion]

Yes.

[Interjecting Listener]

Wow. Wow.

[Ryan]

And was. Was the Church of Satan aware of this?

[Rion]

Yes.

[Ryan]

And so what would be their tactic to create more of these open doors?

[Rion]

I think we can just look at the world.

[Ryan]

Got it.

[Interjecting Listener]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

And okay, let's go even into content and media, because one of my questions is it's so clear that Hollywood is demonic. It's so clear that the, the content being put out is, Is causing people. Is causing the moral fracturing and the moral fraying of our society.

[Rion]

Yes.

[Ryan]

Tell me what you experienced as the head of the Church of Satan as it pertains to the demonic activity in Hollywood.

[Rion]

So with any business or organization or platform, the people who run it have authority on either side of the spectrum. So let's, let's take an app. We'll start small, right? So let's say there's an app, a social media app. The. The person who founded that app or people founded that app or the platform. If the majority of those people are involved with the occult and Satanism, that app will be used for that purpose. Okay. And that's why it's so important for Christians to have content on social media. Because although we don't have the. We don't necessarily have the. What is the word I'm looking for? It's not authority. There's another word. So we don't have the authority over it, but we have the authority in Christ to be visible there. Right. And for the right people to find us. It's the same with other platforms like certain television stations with Hollywood, etc. So if the majority of people who is in charge, who have to main or have the final authority over something, if the majority of those people are involved in the occult and Satanism, that platform will be used for that purpose.

[Ryan]

Got it, got it, got it. That makes sense.

[Rion]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

So it's. It's like we can, we can actually take back what the enemy stolen and what the enemy uses by taking something like social media, which I would argue is inherently demonic in nature. It causes people compare themselves to one another, comparisons, the thief of joy, it causes people to stumble into lust. All of these things. But if we are consuming Bible based Christian content on that platform, or even creating Bible based Christian content on these platforms, we are actually taking back and reclaiming what the enemy has stolen.

[Rion]

Amen. That is exactly it. And I always encourage Christians that, that, that is on social media. Testify as much as possible. Because by the blood of the lamb and the power of your testimony, you shall overcome the enemy. It's in Revelation 12:11. So even about small things, even if God did something small for you today, testify. No testimony is more important than the next one. And I, and I, I also, I also say that with. When people, you know, come to me and they rave about my testimony and I say, yes, it is, but it, it is Jesus. And it's a testimony to what God can do and where God can save and the type of person that God can save. But my testimony isn't more powerful than the next person. Every testimony is important. Every testimony has power. But you'll also notice that it's becoming more and more intense. So there was first a period of desensitizing, right? So if you look at the type of symbols and rituals that's now everywhere, um, it was a progression to get it there. So there was first a desensitizing of the public. And this is part of that agenda that I spoke about earlier to make it acceptable to, to make the devil seem, appear like the, the guy that's misunderstood and he's popular. And yeah, symbols. There's so many loaded satanic symbols being used in TV shows and music videos at the moment. It is insane and it's all charged and activ. Certain things. So when people look at it through the eye gates, they're already being influenced by it.

[Interjecting Listener]

Wow.

[Ryan]

How so, how are they being influenced? But actually, because I would think that that would just be a scare tactic or just like. No, I'm trying to get our symbols out there.

[Rion]

No, there's certain symbols that has a very powerful charge to it. So if you are not a Christian, for instance. Instance. Or then a Christian with compromised relationship, in other words. Yeah, those symbols has an influence. So those are loaded symbols. They have certain incantations attached to them and it's being flashed subtly at. And especially young people because young people are being targeted at the moment. That is, that is being, you know, the recruitment drive for the last six years. And these symbols are certainly being put into things and there's other things as well. But I'm just mentioning You. You will see and notice a lot more of that now than, let's say, five, six years ago, because there was first this desensitizing, and now it's open. Now it is in your face. Bluntly. Yeah.

[Interjecting Listener]

Wow.

[Ryan]

So when. When you, like, watch the Grammys and stuff and you're seeing these performances that are clearly demonic.

[Rion]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

When you go to concerts and you're seeing this crazy stuff or even TV shows where these little subtle things that it's like, well, that was kind of weird. You're saying if you're not covered by the blood of Jesus, that is impacting you?

[Rion]

Of course.

[Ryan]

Say more about that. Is that like a. Is that like a demon coming in through the screen, through your eye?

[Rion]

It's. It's a satanic suggestion.

[Ryan]

Okay.

[Rion]

And if you are. If you are at a concert in person where satanic ritual is being performed on stage, you are part of that ritual. You are in a satanic ritual.

[Interjecting Listener]

Wow.

[Ryan]

And so what happens to you at that point?

[Rion]

So there's demonic oppression immediately. So demons start having an effect on your spirit and on your soul.

[Interjecting Listener]

Wow.

[Ryan]

And let's say someone watching this is like, okay, yeah, I went to a concert that I probably shouldn't have been at. I watched a piece of content I probably shouldn't have watched. What now?

[Rion]

You repent. You. You bring it out, you discuss it with God, you repent, and you asked for repentance. And great, that's really a step in the right direction.

[Ryan]

And then you just claim the blood of Jesus. You're covered in the blood of Jesus. You begin consuming the word of God.

[Rion]

Yes.

[Interjecting Listener]

Okay.

[Rion]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

Interesting. Okay.

[Rion]

Because remember. Because. Because remember. And it is in Romans 8, where. Where it says that nothing can separate us from God. No structure, nothing in the sky, nothing on earth, nothing below. When we are in Christ Jesus. So meaning that when we are in Christ Jesus, it means daily we seek that love and grace. And if there's anything we need to repent for, we do that because that's how we guaranteed our sanctification. And do you understand what I'm saying? And that's. That is how the enemy does not have an influence on us. But. But to. And again, this comes back to that thing of hidden sin and unrepentant things, is that it is such good tools and ammo for the enemy. So do you think. Just think about this. Okay? And this is something the Holy Spirit showed me two days ago. If Satan could convince a third of God's army to join him to fall to earth, how many People do you think he can convince to go to hell with him?

[Interjecting Listener]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

You think of a third, a third of the angels.

[Rion]

Angels, not humans. Strong like angels. If he could convince a lot, according.

[Ryan]

To the Bible, so it says, what does it say, like a 10,000 times 10,000 angels or something like that.

[Rion]

So if he could, if he could vent powerful beings to follow him to fall with him to earth, how many and how easy do you think it is for him to convince humans to, or to entice humans to, to go to hell?

[Interjecting Listener]

Wow.

[Ryan]

And what would you say are the main ways he's convinced people right now?

[Rion]

Temptation comes back to the same things we saw in the Garden of Eden. It's temptation. Remember that the, the, the enemy kills, steals and destroys. That's, that's his modus operandi. And he often imitates things that God created because he can't create anything new. Right. So there's an imitation of certain things and, but it's going to be temptation in all areas of your life.

[Ryan]

Got it, Got it. Okay. So, so there are certain open doors, certain portals that can happen through unrepentant sin, through even accessing some of these things through concerts, media, where there's these suggestions that are out in the open. This is all part of the nine year demonic agenda that's in play right now, specifically targeting children through the media and through other mediums as well. The Bible's clear. I want to ask you about this verse. The disciples come to Jesus and they say we couldn't cast out that demon. And he says this kind only by prayer and fasting. What is it about prayer and fasting that, that can break strongholds?

[Rion]

You, you have a physical body, right? And we also have spirit and soul. You move closer into the spirit by praying fasting because your awareness from the physical moves to your awareness of spiritual things and the authority we have in the spirit world.

[Ryan]

Got it. So it's a, it's a yielding, but it's also a movement towards the spirit of God and a, a welcoming and saying, I, I want more of this. I don't want more of my flesh. I want more of what you have to give.

[Rion]

Amen.

[Ryan]

And, and, and, and if everything, if I'm tracking with everything you're saying, there are open doors of sin that cause the demons to flood in. And if we're going to drive them out, the opposite of entertaining sin is entertaining the spirit of God and the self control and, and the, the desire.

[Rion]

The fruits of the spirit. The fruits of the spirit is the opposite.

[Ryan]

Say more about that.

[Rion]

You should probably know what they are.

[Ryan]

No, no, but I, I'm well aware. But I, I, I'm more asking like, what, how does the fruit of the spirit combat the, the demonic? From, from, I guess from, from a person who's been in that world for so long. Could you see that sort of thing in the spirit? Like, oh, this person is really operating in joy or peace or love or meekness?

[Rion]

Yes.

[Interjecting Listener]

Wow.

[Ryan]

More about that.

[Rion]

Yes. So when, when you get to a certain level of authority in Satanism, so you, when you go through certain levels in Satanism and you become, what's the word? Skilled at seeing into the spirit world and seeing certain things, you become very aware of, of the actual reality of it. So initially, when you're in Satanism, you're not going to actually believe, like I said, in things like God and Jesus Christ and that Christians are actually on different levels. But the deeper you go into, the more you evolve, you become more and more aware of it. So people on that level that's involved with Satanic witchcraft on that level, they can literally walk around and see who is Christian or not by just what is happening around them, what they carry, which is that covering, obviously. And that's why I'm saying you can actually see it on people. You can clearly, if you can see into the spirit world, you can actually see who is covered by the blood of Christ, who really has the Holy Spirit inside of them. Or let's say that oil, that anointing. Because if you have the Holy Spirit inside of you, you are the anointed of God. And nothing sticks to oil, you notice, even in the physical world. So if something has oil on it, you can't put a label or stuff doesn't stick to it. It's the same in the spirit world. Demons and demonic suggestions and attacks does not stick to somebody that is anointed with the oil.

[Interjecting Listener]

Wow. Wow. Wow.

[Ryan]

And does this correspond with Luke, chapter 10, I believe, where Jesus is saying that, like, keep oil in your lamps.

[Rion]

There we go, waiting Christ. That is the deeper meaning of that.

[Interjecting Listener]

Wow. Wow.

[Ryan]

It's the intimacy. It's the, it's the, the work of the Holy Spirit, it's the union with Christ. And nothing's going to stick to oil. So if the enemy fires his flaming arrows, they're just going to be extinguished or just bounce right off that oil.

[Rion]

Amen.

[Interjecting Listener]

Amen. Wow.

[Ryan]

But I'm, I'm hearing two things now. So I'm hearing, and help me understand this, hearing that nothing's going to Stick to the oil. But I'm also hearing that there are specific targets for Christians that are charging the kingdom of darkness. Like you said, they light up as you scan a block or a city. So. And then they're, they're going after those people. I would think the majority of times the people who are really have the oil are the ones who are charging for the kingdom of God against the kingdom of darkness. So is it true that you can both have it bounce off of you and be the prime target of Satan?

[Rion]

Again, if we look at it from a warfare point of view, who is in the front lines, who's the most visible in an army?

[Ryan]

Got it. But if you have the full armor of God and you're carrying the oil, the attacks will just bounce off.

[Rion]

Of course, as it says in the word Amen.

[Interjecting Listener]

Amen.

[Ryan]

And did you fight? Do you have like live data on this or I guess like past data on like we tried to attack certain people. Like there was, you know, like last time we talked about the blue flame.

[Rion]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

The prayers of the moms.

[Rion]

Yeah, so that's one, that's one example. There was a. Sorry, did you want us or something else?

[Ryan]

No, no, no, keep going, keep going.

[Rion]

So there was a incident and I spoke about that the other day as well. And I remember this, this was about a year before I left Satanism on around an Easter holiday we went up a mountain. So in Cape Town there's a very well known spot called Table mountain. So about 20 of us went up to target a specific church that was below. That was a clear vision of the landscape that we went up. And the reason we targeted this church was that it was known that they trying to do work among Satanists and pull Satan is away from, you know, I want to say our church at the time. So the church I was involved with, with Satanism. So we wanted to target this church and specifically because we also found out that the bishop that was running this church had an issue or addiction with certain drugs. So we knew he was an open target. And so if we would target the church as a whole, it would be effective. So as we were busy and I'm not going to go into the details of rituals because I don't want to teach people how to become better Satanists. But so as we went through the steps and eventually you release that attack by looking at this specific place, it was blocked by another church very close to it who was praying for the whole body of Christ, obviously.

[Interjecting Listener]

Wow.

[Rion]

So chill. Because the other church who was praying probably for the the area or the town was probably led by the Holy Spirit at that moment. To do it was standing in the gap for all churches. And I find it very fascinating in my journey in the last three years being involved, you know, with this ministry, especially the last year, because I've spoken at so many churches, you have no idea, like hundreds. So it's interesting when you encounter a church that's praying for the whole body of Christ around the world, as opposed to just for their church and churches who are praying for unity in the body of Christ, because unity in the body of Christ is most attacked at the moment. And it's part of the satanic agenda to create disharmony and tear in the body of Christ. And that's why we're seeing a lot of people going on YouTube and on all sorts of channels, Christians who built ministries on exposing other people, especially other Christians. That is, it's part of the agenda that's playing out at the moment. So, and, and the, the, the current agenda that's kind of active or being pushed until 2027 before it gets reviewed again, has a point on it about Christianity and it. And churches. And it says, divided they will fall, united they will stand, but divided they will fall.

[Interjecting Listener]

Wow.

[Rion]

So that, that division is, is. That's been part of the satanic agenda all along.

[Interjecting Listener]

Wow.

[Ryan]

Because John 17, Jesus's prayer is, I wish they would be one, as we are one.

[Rion]

Amen.

[Ryan]

Wow, Dang, man. That's powerful.

[Rion]

And what, what people, what people are not seeing at the moment as well, and I just want to spend one minute on this is there's a, there's a target for 2027 about what's going to be known as a one world religion. And it's, it's going to be part of what the UN wants to roll out. So there's going to be a summit and you can look at this recording in 2027. What I'm saying now, there's going to be a summit on world religion. And they're going to get 20 representatives of each religion of each world religion to come together and say why their religion, firstly, what it stands for and why it should be considered. From that 20 Christian leaders that's going to be summoned, not one of them will agree on what the true gospel of Jesus Christ is. Therefore it will not be considered because they will say, you can't even agree on what your religion is. So Christianity will become illegal. It will become illegal to advertise services on buildings. It will be illegal to preach the gospel in public. It will be illegal to pray in public because of that. And it's because of this division that is happening. And. And Satanists who are pushing this satanic agenda are very much aware of this.

[Interjecting Listener]

Whoa.

[Rion]

So wake up.

[Ryan]

Let's rewind a little bit.

[Interjecting Listener]

That.

[Ryan]

That was crazy. So what you're telling me right now is this is in the playbooks right now. This is. This is. The ball is rolling on this.

[Rion]

Yes, because remember, involved.

[Ryan]

The Satanic church is involved.

[Rion]

Because remember, just over three years ago, I was involved in Satanism. I was the leader of a satanic organization. I saw the satanic agenda with my own eyes. I was in meetings discussing the satanic agenda with other satanic organizations around the world. So every nine years it gets updated. So I'm just aware of the one that's being pushed now up to 2027. I don't know what the Geno is after that, but what I've seen with my own eyes and the. The online conferences that I've been in with other satanic leaders, this is what's going on at the moment. When I said I left. When I Left Satanism In May 2022, when I left Satanism, I said. And I have a recording of it. I said that in 2025, people will be arrested on the street for praying for other people. People will be prosecuted for being Christians in Europe. I say that because I saw it on the agenda. It wasn't a prophecy or that I saw the future. It was because I knew what was on the agenda and people thought I was insane. So I'm saying today that in 2027 there's going to be a one world religion that will be the acceptable and the only religion around the world that will be legal and it's not going to be Christianity.

[Interjecting Listener]

Wow.

[Ryan]

And you're saying that the UN is behind this and the Satanic church is behind this. And they are bringing 20 leaders from every religion together to convene and to say, we're coming together, but Christianity will not be a part of it because those 20 leaders that together will not agree on.

[Rion]

They will. Christians will be part of the summit. Every religion in the world are not.

[Ryan]

Going to be a part of the one world religion.

[Rion]

No. Because they will not be able to agree on what is really the gospel and which version of the Bible is the right one. All those the things they are fighting about at the moment is what's going to happen there. And then they're going to say, well, you are the most divided religion in the world. You c. We Cannot accept this as a. So whichever religion. And I have an idea, because it's also not Satanism, but I have idea which one it will be that, that will say this is the religion and this is what every leader in our religion agrees on is our dogma and our religion and our teachings and. Yeah. Which.

[Ryan]

Do you mind sharing which one you think it is?

[Rion]

It's Islam.

[Ryan]

And what will this one world religion of Islam that will be in, brought in by the un? Like, what does that even mean? Like, how does that even function?

[Rion]

It means just. It means that no other religion would be recognized by laws. And every other religion but this one world religion will be allowed to be on a public platform and to advertise their services or have buildings that on the outside it says it's this organization or a church. And the other thing is worldwide, I.

[Ryan]

Just have a hard time seeing like different countries agreeing to all this.

[Rion]

Well, there's gonna, there's gonna be a one world economy first and they'll have to. Otherwise. So again, I know it sounds like a conspiracy theory and I'm not saying 100% this will come to pass. I'm saying that is the agenda. And I'm also saying that if we, if we open our eyes and look what's going on around the world.

[Interjecting Listener]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ryan]

Okay. So what I'm hearing you say is this. This is written. You saw it. This. You're not prophesying. You are saying what you saw in plain ink. This is the agenda for 2027. Nobody would have believed that people would be arrested in 2025 from praying for. Praying for others on the street. But it's happening right now in Europe in 2027. First, what needs to happen is there needs to be a one world economy. Is that right?

[Rion]

Yes.

[Ryan]

And then secondly, they're going to establish a one world religion. And you believe that that's Islam. You're not saying this 100% will happen. You're saying this is the agenda they're pushing. And you're starting to see some of these things play out.

[Rion]

Yes. Plus, I mean, if we look at revelation about the persecution of Christian. Everything that's happening in the world is biblical at the moment.

[Interjecting Listener]

Amen.

[Rion]

Think about it. So if you don't believe me, read your Bible. And we do not know what prosecution looks like yet. If you think we're being prosecuted at the moment, you have no idea what's coming. And I'm sorry, like, like I said, I. I don't want to sound like a doomsday prophet, but People need to wait.

[Ryan]

So what can we do now other than pray?

[Rion]

I think love one another is a good place to start. And remember, if we're fighting each other, we can't fight the enemy. Hello.

[Ryan]

Right.

[Interjecting Listener]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

Okay, so unity in the body of Christ.

[Rion]

Yes, I'm. That's my prayer every day. Or believe it or not, literally every day I pray for that.

[Interjecting Listener]

Wow. Dang.

[Ryan]

Does this make you nervous? Like, because. Because ultimately, like, we. We're seeing the signs of the end times play out. I've heard prophecies on specific years. You know, like, I've. I've heard some people say, like, people that I really trust, people that they would never, on a public stage come out and say. I heard the Lord say this year, but I have heard prominent leaders who are filled with the spirit that are getting the same time.

[Rion]

Yep.

[Ryan]

And what they say is nobody knows the day or the hour. Nothing about the year.

[Rion]

Yes.

[Ryan]

And so there are a lot of people that are saying it's happening soon. I'm getting chills thinking about it now. It's happening soon.

[Rion]

Remember what I said last time? I said that. That. That Jesus isn't coming back. He's on his way. I said that.

[Interjecting Listener]

Yes.

[Rion]

And Jesus is not coming as the Savior. He's the Savior at the moment. Yes. For. For everybody. But the day that that day comes and he's going to be followed with a big army from heaven and his robe is going to be drenched in blood and he's going to have a sword. He's not coming as the Savior when that day comes.

[Ryan]

Conquering king.

[Interjecting Listener]

Wow.

[Ryan]

Have you gotten similar things that. Have you gotten any specific times? Like, obviously, we don't know the exact day or the hour, but. So there's nothing specific. You've just felt in your spirit, and you're seeing it ramp up on the demonic. You're seeing it ramp on the, you know, kingdom of light.

[Rion]

And. And remember the. The enemy and his minions, the demons, the devil, and the demons also know that the time is running out. They have a mission to accomplish. Why do you think there's more attacks now than ever before? Because they know the time is running out for them to accomplish their mission.

[Ryan]

And we're getting close because the Bible is very clear that there's only one thing that must take place before he comes back. You're going to see wars, rumors of wars. We're seeing it. Knowledge is going to increase like crazy. AI, I really want to talk to you about AI after this. But the one thing that must happen is every Nation is going to hear the gospel in God. And right now it's happening.

[Rion]

It is happening. It is happening.

[Ryan]

We're so close.

[Rion]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

So my question to you is how is the demonic. How is the Satanic church and the Satanic agenda using AI? What is their plan for AI?

[Rion]

Deception and to lead people astray. Remember, there's also this mission for 2/3 of Christians to denounce their faith. That's still going to happen publicly where many people will denounce that they are Christian and that they believe in Jesus. And it's influenced by AI about. I mean, AI gives people a version of certain things. So it gives you some truth and then some lies. And that's the difference between deception and blatantly lying. Because you're using. It's the devil. It's the oldest trick in the.

[Interjecting Listener]

In.

[Rion]

In the devil's playbook. So we give you some truth and in there there's very important things. That's not the truth. But the way it's structured is going to make you believe that this is facts. It's the oldest trick in the devil's playbook is deception. And the, the, the. What they going to do with AI, I mean they're only starting now is to make people say certain things and people look at it and they're impressionable. Again, the eye gates. Right. And young people, especially young people, are addicted to screens.

[Interjecting Listener]

Mm. Wow.

[Ryan]

So you think that the way that 2/3 of the Christians denounce their faith will be because AI will be subtly making suggestions against that faith?

[Rion]

It's already happening, actually proclaim.

[Ryan]

Do you think it's because I talk to chat GTP all the time. I'm constantly asking chat GDP how to make muffins or how to whatever know not problem. Do you think. But do you think that the proclamation. Like how is that proclamation going to happen for the.

[Rion]

So how many people do you think at the moment is asking AI questions about what. What is spiritual truths.

[Interjecting Listener]

Of?

[Ryan]

I'm sure a ton.

[Interjecting Listener]

Yeah. Wow.

[Ryan]

This is all happening very, very fast.

[Rion]

Yeah. And like I said, I know we're going off topic a bit, but dude, this was.

[Ryan]

This, this. I didn't. I did not see this one coming. But shoot, man, that's pretty heavy stuff. So what is, what is your message then to the body of Christ if we're gonna into. Because you. You were already dead on with 2025 that people would be arrested for praying. You're saying in 2027 there's going to be a one world currency and there's Going to be. Or there probably that's the agenda. Not you're saying there will be, but that's the agenda from the satanic church. One world currency and one world religion, which will likely be Islam. What do Christians do? So you said love one another, pray. Do we pray against that? And there be an army of Christians praying against this from happening.

[Rion]

So, so I would, I would suggest again that. Because the thing that stops this, right, in all honesty and reality, is the body of Christ needs to be unified. United. Because if you can, if you can get a majority of those leaders that will be summoned to this one world religion summit that's going to happen in 2027. If, if you can get more than 10 of the, the, because nobody knows now who those Christian leaders are. It's, they literally gonna pick at random around the world from each religion, 20 representatives, right? So if you can get more than 10 of them to agree on what the foundation, the dogma and the actual gospel is of the religion, then we are okay. But to be honest with you, in my opinion, we are not okay. If I look, how would we be okay?

[Ryan]

Because we don't, we don't even want to be a part of that one world.

[Rion]

No, we don't. We don't. But just for the right to be able to, to preach the gospel publicly and to have platforms like this, because that will become illegal as well. So, so just to have the right to, to, to, to be represented and to have the right to still practice your religion, even if you are a minority, will depend on the amounts of people at the summit that will agree on what this religion is meaning the religion they represent. So what I'm saying to you is that the reason I feel we're not okay is you can go on any platform and see how many ministries are built on simply tearing other people down in Christianity.

[Ryan]

100%, dude.

[Rion]

I, I, and you know, you know what's interesting was I also struggled with that at a time because a lot of people did it with, to me as well. So I literally had people from all sorts of podcasts around the world making videos about me. And, and thank God I didn't look at it at the time because I didn't know my identity in Christ like I do today. But right. There was a specific verse in Luke 5 that God gave me at that time. And it's about the, the temptation of Christ in the desert. And there's a, there's something I read about where Satan asked the. Jesus. Where Satan asked Jesus. Is it not written so Every time a Christian uses scripture against another Christian to attack, and to you, using the Bible, you're using the word of God to attack a fellow believer. You are actually a tool in the hand of the enemy. By doing that, you're creating division. Every time you, as a Christian, blaspheme against the Holy Spirit by calling the works of Jesus demonic, you are creating division.

[Interjecting Listener]

Amen. Amen.

[Ryan]

If I were to play devil's advocate, I would want to say, well, aren't we supposed to call out false prophets?

[Rion]

Yes.

[Ryan]

And so I see a lot of. I see a lot of people online that are like, you know, like, there's even a documentary coming out that these people reached out to me. They're like, we want you to be a part of this. And I looked at their social media. I'm like, this is pure division. Yeah, yeah, he might die in sin, but you are literally building a following on tearing down other Christians, some of whom I know. And I know they're pure in heart, know they're legit, and drag them through the mud.

[Rion]

Thank you.

[Ryan]

So I. So I told them, heck, no, that I want nothing to do with this.

[Rion]

Absolutely. Because that is what's happening at the moment, and it's part of that agenda. That is my point. Internally, it's happening more than from the outside. And Satanists and Satanic leaders are very much aware of this. But coming back to it, yes, we supposed to expose false teachings, but do people not have discernment? The Holy Spirit? Are we not supposed to look at anything as Christians and know whether that is truth or not? Why do you need somebody else to tell you who is a false prophet? Don't you have discernment of the Holy Spirit? And my next question is, if you are on this mission to expose certain people, how much have you prayed for them before you did that? Because if you haven't, you have no authority, number one, to do it. And number two, you are actually a tool in the hand of the enemy. Have you actually spoken to that person that you want to expose? The way the Bible tells us we're supposed to go and talk to them before taking it to another. If you haven't, you are a tool in the hands of the enemy because you are not doing things. Then according to scripture, then whose kingdom are you operating in?

[Interjecting Listener]

Amen.

[Ryan]

Amen, dude. Yeah. Gosh, if we just took the. The plank out of our own eye first.

[Rion]

Amen.

[Ryan]

And they will know us by our love for each other. I think people so often misinterpret that verse, they Go, oh, Christians. They'll know that you're my disciples. By the way, you love everyone. That's not what it says. He was talking to the disciples.

[Rion]

Yes.

[Ryan]

You're talking to Christians.

[Rion]

Yes.

[Ryan]

Talking to the early church.

[Rion]

Yes.

[Ryan]

They out there will know me by your love for each other, by your unity. John 17.

[Rion]

Amen.

[Ryan]

And, and we are just backbiting and cutting each other off at the legs and we'll see the sin in our brother's eye and we be. And here's the thing, like, as a social media influencer, I see this crap all the time and it, it makes me furious. It should, because people have no idea what they're doing. Because guess what? It will go viral.

[Rion]

It will.

[Ryan]

It's going to go viral. It's, it's a like a formula. Like, I know if I talk about hell or porn or E News Christianity, it'll go viral.

[Rion]

It won't.

[Ryan]

And so we have all these Christian content creators that are pimping out their ministry to virality and they're doing it at the cost of what's going to bring the kingdom, which is unity. Man, me furious. And I speak in all hypocrisy because I'm, I can be a viral chaser myself. So I know that's in my own heart. But when I see division in the body of Christ and I'm like, dudes, we are literally, we are like writing the demonic playbook ministries.

[Rion]

And that's the point. That is the point I'm trying to bring home here. And it is part of the satanic agenda for, for, for what was the words influential Christians that are being followed, whose faces are like well known to do that to other Christian leaders. And second part, for Christian content creators to, to be become popular for doing that, because I can tell you that there is, there's some of these content creators that their whole ministry is built on tearing other people of God down. Does that sound like Jesus to you? Does that sound like the word of work of God to you?

[Ryan]

No. And it doesn't. And as someone who has studied the, these algorithms in order to proclaim the word of God, trust me, I know it's. It's a much faster path to virality, to terrify. It's a much.

[Rion]

Thank you. There we go.

[Ryan]

And it's it. I will see a lot of creators who will start out pure and then they will see the views dipping and then they just go, well, let's do some E News Christianity stuff. Or let's start scaring PE by saying like Billions are going to hell. Like, don't scroll. It's like this fear.

[Rion]

It's not from God. It's not from God at all. And that's what I'm saying.

[Ryan]

What they're doing is. It's. It's in the name of Jesus. They're building a platform and it's. It's why Jesus flipped the tables.

[Rion]

Can I ask you something?

[Ryan]

Because they were.

[Rion]

Can I ask you. Can I ask you something? Is that not using the Lord's name in vain?

[Ryan]

That's it.

[Rion]

For your own vanity.

[Ryan]

That is the purest definition of using the Lord's name in vain.

[Rion]

Thank you.

[Ryan]

People think using the Lord's name in vain is just saying, oh my God in a context. That is a micro example. It's using the Lord's name to. To. And again, I am probably speaking in all hypocrisy in many ways, because this is probably in my heart. And so I just need to say that, like, there, There are definitely times and there is definitely something in me that wants more views because it's addicting. And I can use the Lord's name and Lord forgive me for this. Like. Like, I. I want it to be pure. So I, I say that to say, like, let me first spotlight myself. This sin is in me too. But I will see people that will build the foundation of their entire online presence.

[Rion]

Thank you.

[Ryan]

Around fear and around tearing down other people. And I'm sick of it. And, and we, we need, as a, as an online creator community, we need to realize that there is billions of views. Like, this is not. This is like, we need to have like a book of James. Like, leaders will be judged more harshly.

[Rion]

Yes.

[Ryan]

Because we're not, like, it's. It's insane to think, like, what, you know, just even this, this is not a brag. This is a. Like a speaking with the fear of the lord. Over. Over 500 million video views will happen this year from. From our ministry, from my online presence. That is scary in many, but it's.

[Rion]

It's great. It's great as well.

[Ryan]

Beautiful.

[Rion]

Yeah. But I don't think that should be a person's drive necessarily to do it because you have brilliant content and you're not the only person. Many other people have brilliant content. And the moment I get asked about things like followers and I immediately say, please follow Jesus. I don't need you to follow me. Like, I do not actually care if one person follows me on social media or 4,000 or 10,000 or a million. And when I was called into ministry Full time ministry. A year ago I said, God, if I ever become vain or I'm not staying pure and at your feet, take me out of ministry. That, that was my declaration. And, and I'm not saying that as opposed to what you are saying. I'm just saying in this is what I did. So I don't care, Ryan. Like, honestly, because I've been also, I've been accused of it at one stage. Like, I'm doing it for followers, whatever. And like, no, like, I do not actually care. I've died to public opinion. I've met Jesus in person. That is what matters to me and that is what I share with the world. So please follow Christ. That is my heart. And for people to actually know what is the reality of the spirit world and why we need Jesus and why we need our authority in Christ more than ever. I mean, God. Done. That's it. There we go.

[Ryan]

Right? Right. Amen, man.

[Interjecting Listener]

Yeah.

[Ryan]

No, I. Search me, oh God, and see if there's any hidden sin in me, you know, test me. It's like that, that prayer from David. So I, I think you're right. Like, it's a beautiful thing. There's a lot of fruit, but like, at what cost, you know, like a lot of people. Like, I remember starting this podcast, I was talking to a mentor of mine and I was like, I, I thought about naming this podcast the Hidden Heroes of Faith and going and finding hidden people, not the ones on platform. And my, my mentor, very wise man of God was like, I can't support that. And I was like, what? I thought that would be the Christian thing. Like, we're not going to go out and get the most famous person. We're going to get, you know, the people that, that stories aren't being told. And he goes, don't do it. He goes there because they won't be ready. Like, you're gonna, you're gonna. Platform people who aren't called to that and whose character hasn't, hasn't. They haven't been tested to that point. Yeah, your character. But they, they just all do it and can withstand and, and I have even. There have been certain interviews that I've done on this podcast where it's like, oh, that's an amazing story. And now I have almost started to shy away from more the hidden people that like, I'll just meet randomly because I watch what some of the hate will do and it'll tear them.

[Rion]

Yes, it is. And that's why, that's why Jesus told me that first year do not look at comments. Focus on me. And I listened. And every time after it, when I picked up an iPad or something, you will be like, don't look. And I won't. Until the day where I wasn't convicted or stopped or just got the discerning that. And then when I started looking, it was like this. So doesn't matter, because, you know, because.

[Ryan]

You'Re not after a while.

[Rion]

Yeah. And when you get to a point where you know your identity in Christ and that. That love that I've experienced of Jesus, it is stronger than any comment that people can make on a platform. It is stronger than anything people can ever say about me. And I can say that from experiencing that love. It is the most important thing that. That has ever happened to me in my life. And the race is just what it is.

[Ryan]

It's all sprinkles after that, huh?

[Rion]

Yeah. I have to run in two minutes, though. Sorry.

[Ryan]

Okay. No, that's fine. Let's. Let's. Let's pray. This was plenty, man. Holy smokes. I didn't see it going that.

[Rion]

Yeah, me neither. But this is obviously where it was meant to go.

[Interjecting Listener]

Yes.

[Ryan]

All right, let's. Let's seal this thing with a prayer.

[Rion]

If you.

[Ryan]

You guys watching as well? Like every. I think every single person watching this. Let's pray for unity in the body of Christ right now. So as we pray, would you guys pray alongside of us? Would you pray for protection over your family? Would you pray for protection over my family? You know, even as there's been attacks from our first interview, Ron, like, I would love protection for that. Let's pray for Ron, his ministry. Guys, go follow Ron. Go. Go to his. What's. What's your website, Ron? If you. If you're a church. Church, and you. You want training for your church, where do they find you?

[Rion]

So we are at deliverance for me dot org. So the four is a number four. So it's Deliverance and the four me dot org that. That is our website.

[Interjecting Listener]

Awesome.

[Ryan]

And they can obviously find you on. On social media as well.

[Rion]

Yes.

[Interjecting Listener]

Great.

[Ryan]

Okay, let me start us. Rion, if you could close us in prayer. I know you have two minutes or one minute probably now, so let me just. Let me pray. If you. If you wouldn't mind closing us at the. Oh, Holy Spirit. We just want a word of Moshe. We want more of the oil Jesus. We claim the blood of Jesus over our families, over this podcast, over everything that was spoken, Lord and God. We just want unity for the body. And so we pray right now in the name of Jesus, for unity. Holy Spirit, we love you.

[Interjecting Listener]

Lord.

[Ryan]

Protect Rion. Protect his ministry. Protect the listener. Protect my family. We just stand in the authority you've given us.

[Rion]

Father God, we come to you in the mighty, mighty name of Jesus. The name above names. King of Kings. God, thank you for the presence of your Holy Spirit here. Lord God, we come tonight. We stand against every. Every attack of the enemy. We stand against every satanic suggestion. We stand against the spirit of witchcraft. We stand against the spirit of religion. God. God, I just want to pray for Ryan and his family. I'm asking for complete covering. In Jesus name everybody that is also watching this episode. That they are covered. Every family that they represent God, that you cover them. In the mighty, mighty name of Jesus Christ. Christ. Amen.

[Interjecting Listener]

Amen. Amen.

[Ryan]

All right, man. Thank you so much for being with us.

[Interjecting Listener]

Really appreciate.

[Rion]

Was awesome. Thank you so much.

[Ryan]

All right, we'll chat later, bro. We'll have to. We got to stay in contact more. I'm gonna. I'm gonna ping you more often for prayer.

[Rion]

Amen.

[Ryan]

All right, guys. Thanks for joining us today.