Jesus People Podcast Ep. 34 – From Witchcraft & Torment to Freedom in Christ | Jenny Joy
Date: September 8, 2025
Host: Ryan Miller
Guest: Jenny Joy
Episode Overview
In this candid and gripping episode, host Ryan Miller welcomes Jenny Joy—deliverance minister, survivor, and author—to share her remarkable journey from deep involvement in witchcraft, trauma, and torment to deliverance and radical freedom in Jesus Christ. Together, they explore Jenny's backstory, the realities of spiritual warfare and the demonic, and practical steps for finding deliverance and authority in Christ. Ryan and Jenny also address questions from those wrestling with the unseen realms, offering clarity and hope for Christians navigating spiritual oppression.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. The Reality of Demonic Oppression and Deliverance (00:00–06:46)
- Jenny opens with her testimony: “I got delivered from over a thousand demons. So it did not matter if I believed that Jesus was God.” (00:00, Jenny Joy)
- The church often downplays or ignores the reality of spiritual warfare—leading to misdiagnosis (as mental illness) and missed opportunities for freedom.
- “Where there is torment, there is a demon. And you can keep it if you want, but it’s not going to benefit your life or anybody else’s.” (01:34, Jenny Joy)
- Deliverance is essential but must be followed by discipleship to "fill the house" (referencing biblical metaphor, e.g., Matt 12).
- Jenny's salvation out of witchcraft and the sex industry did not instantly resolve spiritual torment—she lived for years as a Christian while still oppressed.
2. Spiritual Sight vs. Torment (03:57–06:46)
- Before deliverance, Jenny felt distant from God, like speaking in a warehouse full of boxes. “When I got delivered, it was like nothing was in that warehouse anymore. I could see the Lord rightly, I could hear him rightly.” (03:57, Jenny Joy)
- Vision after first deliverance: Clear spiritual sight as if underwater with goggles; demonic influence acts like a distorting lens.
- Demonic oppression often cloaks itself as personality traits or mental illnesses: “I was diagnosed with bipolar 1, complex PTSD, dissociative identity disorder... Those were demons, you know what I am saying?” (06:46, Jenny Joy)
- Physical, measurable change: Past brain scans showed mental illness symptoms; post-deliverance scans did not.
3. Jenny’s Backstory: Trauma, Witchcraft, and Spiritual Doors (07:40–14:14)
- Raised in a dysfunctional, alcoholic family; sexual abuse began at age 3 and recurred through childhood.
- Introduction to witchcraft at age 7 (Ouija board), which Jenny now understands as a major “open door” to demonic attack: “You’re giving access to demons to enter into your life, and they can come in however they want. Trauma is an access point. Addiction is an access point.” (10:04, Jenny Joy)
- Other entry points: trauma, self-harm, addiction, generational curses, occult activity.
- Self-harm and attraction to dark community themes (e.g., online suicide chats) by age 12–13.
4. Spiritual Encounters—The Loss of Innocence (15:46–24:20)
- Pivotal event: Terrifying demonic attack during a middle school camping trip, accompanied by a voice: “Get the F out.” (20:49, Jenny Joy)
- Result: Jenny removed her cross necklace, symbolic of her temporary renunciation of faith and deepened descent into self-harm, depression, and supernatural oppression.
- Disenchantment with Christianity: Youth pastors unable to answer her questions about seeing spirits. Instead, psychics spoke identity and purpose into her life, further ensnaring her in the occult.
5. Descent Into Witchcraft and Mediumship (24:20–35:54)
- Jenny sought meaning, power, and community through witchcraft, psychic readings, and eventually, training under a medium and practicing “channeling” and necromancy.
- First-hand account of spirit possession during channeling classes: “You’d literally watch her eyes change... She would just, like, and then it would come in and speak through her. Like, it was straight-up demonic possession.” (29:07, Jenny Joy)
- Description of a “veil” between physical and spiritual realms and how the enemy uses spiritual encounters to entice and trap.
- The Lord began to convict Jenny even while practicing witchcraft—a growing sense of fear and discernment signaled her eventual rescue.
6. Deliverance and Spiritual Authority (37:32–52:06)
- Jenny actively teaches her young son to exercise spiritual authority: “Rain, where are... Are there any demons in our house? ... We’ll just anoint it and command any demons to leave.” (37:59, Jenny Joy)
- Deliverance ministers and their families are targeted; spiritual covering and intercessory prayer are critical before and after ministry.
- The biblical responsibility and spiritual influence of husbands/fathers as the “roof” (capella) and covering of the home: “If the man is in sin, there’s no roof on the house.” (62:32, Podcast Host)
7. Deliverance Ministry: Nuts & Bolts (59:03–72:18)
- Deliverance begins with worship, prayer, and declaring who God is—demons hate the truth.
- Identifying open doors: repentance, verbal renunciation, and breaking generational curses or soul ties.
- Importance of forgiveness: “Unforgiveness is an open door to the demonic.” (73:52, Jenny Joy); powerful imagery of a heart with fish hooks released by forgiveness.
8. Christians & Demonization—Myths Debunked (64:38–65:47)
- Many Holy Spirit-filled, faithful Christians need and receive deliverance: “Every single person that comes to me... are Christians. And half of them are Holy Spirit-filled Christians walking in righteousness.” (65:03, Jenny Joy)
- The false doctrine that “Christians can’t have demons” is dangerous and unfounded biblically; Jenny warns: “If you are believing that and you’re spreading that lie, it’s doing a huge disservice to the body of Christ and you need to repent.” (65:47, Jenny Joy)
9. Modern Issues—AI, Spirit Spouses, and the New Occult (53:44–59:01)
- AI relationships (e.g., with ChatGPT bots) are new portals for spiritual bondage: “People... are now having actual sexual encounters with a demon... It is coming in through the entry point of ChatGPT.” (56:30, Jenny Joy)
- Explanation of “spirit spouses” (incubus/succubus): Demons that bond sexually/spiritually to people, fueling sexual dysfunction and broken marriages.
10. Practical Steps: Overcoming Fear and Finding Freedom (77:18–86:06)
- Self-deliverance steps: Identify fears, repent for them, renounce agreement, command spirits to leave, and invite the Holy Spirit to fill you.
- Ongoing mind renewal, lifestyle change, and boundary-setting are crucial post-deliverance.
11. Jenny’s Book and Ministry (86:06–88:45)
- Upcoming book: The Witch and the Lamb (releasing February 2026)—her in-depth testimony and teachings to draw unbelievers and believers alike to freedom.
- Follow Jenny on @ennyjoyhappy (Instagram, TikTok), with deliverance resources and recommended ministries in her bio.
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- “Where there is torment, there is a demon. And you can keep it if you want, but it’s not going to benefit your life or anybody else’s life around you for sure.” (01:34, Jenny Joy)
- “When I got delivered, it was like nothing was in that warehouse anymore. And I could see the Lord rightly, I could hear him rightly.” (03:57, Jenny Joy)
- “Introduced to witchcraft at seven [with a Ouija board]...that was my first demonic encounter.” (09:34, Jenny Joy)
- “I came to Jesus, but I lived in torment as a Christian for almost five years.” (03:57, Jenny Joy)
- “Anytime that you see somebody who’s self-harming, there are demonic spirits at play. We see that in the Bible.” (10:04, Jenny Joy)
- “You don’t break a habit—you change a habit.” (78:52, Jenny Joy)
- “We just have to teach [our kids] how to pray.” (41:09, Podcast Host & Jenny Joy)
- “Every single person can have [spiritual] authority. It comes from spending time with the Lord and surrendering things.” (51:21, Jenny Joy)
- “Forgiveness broke the back of that thing, and it was like freedom came rushing in.” (76:40, Podcast Host)
- “I got delivered from over a thousand demons. So it did not matter if I believed that Jesus was God.” (00:00, Jenny Joy)
Timestamps for Key Segments
- Introduction & Jenny’s Deliverance (00:00–03:57)
- Navigating the Demonic in the Church (03:57–06:46)
- Backstory: Trauma, Witchcraft, and Community (07:40–24:20)
- Practicing Witchcraft & Mediumship (24:20–35:54)
- Transition—Deliverance and Authority (37:32–52:06)
- Deliverance Nuts & Bolts: Ministry Models (59:03–72:18)
- Christians, Demons, and Theological Clarity (64:38–65:47)
- Spirit Spouses & Tech-Age Bondage (53:44–59:01)
- Conquering Fear and Walking in Freedom (77:18–86:06)
- Book Announcement & Connection Details (86:06–88:45)
Where to Find Jenny Joy & Deliverance Resources
- Social Media: @ennyjoyhappy (Instagram & TikTok)
- Upcoming Book: The Witch and the Lamb (February 2026 release)
- Deliverance resources & ministry recommendations: Link in Jenny’s social media bio and episode show notes.
"Praise the Lord." – Jenny Joy (89:11)