Miracles, Deliverance & Revival: The Jesus People Podcast Ep 47 | Kathryn Krick

Summary

Jesus People Podcast – Ep 47: “Miracles, Deliverance & Revival” with Kathryn Krick

Date: November 10, 2025
Host: Ryan Miller
Guest: Apostle Kathryn Krick

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Episode Overview

In this compelling episode, Ryan Miller sits down with Apostle Kathryn Krick to unpack her remarkable spiritual journey—from small-town beginnings to worldwide ministry leader. Kathryn discusses the progression from a “lukewarm” Christian upbringing to radical encounters with the power of God, leading to her deliverance ministry, founding a church in Los Angeles, and being at the heart of a global revival.
The conversation covers miracles, the biblical basis for deliverance, the importance of surrender, navigating skepticism, revival in the modern church, and preparing the Bride for Jesus’ return.

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Kathryn’s Early Life & Spiritual Background

[02:11–05:37]

• Kathryn grew up in a tiny town (Andes, NY) in a humble, Christian family.
• Her parents modeled humility and kindness, but the family didn’t know about the active, “miracle-working” God as seen in Acts.
• Early faith was mainly “by the book.” Kathryn recalls religious routines and rote prayers:
  “I grew up in a Presbyterian church, and it was just like, go by the bulletin...you recite them together, you sing the hymns...it was just like, going through the motions, you know...” – Kathryn [05:37]

Encountering the Holy Spirit & a Shift in Faith

[06:27–09:48]

• As a child, Kathryn sensed she was “different” and had a unique pursuit of God, but through high school and college she was “lukewarm.”
• Moving to LA for acting after college set the stage for her spiritual hunger:
  “As soon as I got to L.A., this hunger erupted in my heart for God like never before…The Bible says, you will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart.” – Kathryn [11:35]
• Active pursuit led to deep involvement in church, and eventually an encounter with the Holy Spirit.
• Baptism in the Holy Spirit was a turning point:
  “When I was baptized in the Holy Spirit, the fire…burned away the fleshly desires I had before...all I wanted to do was spend time with God.” – Kathryn [15:26]

The Baptism of the Holy Spirit — Understanding & Experiencing

[17:37–19:49]

• Kathryn shares the biblical basis for Holy Spirit baptism and speaking in tongues.
• She explains the biblical model:
  “Our examples in the Bible...people were going to a church service…The apostles are...laying hands on them, and the fire of the Holy Spirit comes upon these people...” – Kathryn [25:28]
• She began to speak in tongues immediately after her baptism, encouraging listeners to seek more of God.

The Road to Surrender & God’s Calling

[33:44–42:04]

• Profound surrender came after her Holy Spirit encounter—letting go of her dreams of a music career.
• A key prophetic encounter:
  • Tanzanian prophet Dr. Jordevi prophesied she would be an apostle and work miracles.
  • Despite feeling unqualified and fearing public speaking, Kathryn obeyed the call, likening her struggle to Moses’ story:
    “God spoke to me in that moment…Just trust me. Just obey, and I will give you the ability.” – Kathryn [37:55]
• She chose radical obedience and trusted God would bring her joy in her calling.

The Humble Beginnings and the “Crushing”

[44:47–47:16]

• The church started as an outdoor worship night with minimal support and few attendees.
  “None of them…came to the worship nights…It was very humble, small beginnings.” – Kathryn [46:35]
• Kathryn endured years of “wilderness”—slow growth, dwindling attendance, and no immediate fruit:
  “He'll take every believer…through a wilderness season where he refines, where he crushes, and that's where you become gold.” – Kathryn [47:20]

Prophecy of Revival and Restoring the Acts Model

[51:10–53:23]

• Dr. Jordevi’s pivotal prophecy: revival was being released, the five-fold ministry restored, and that it would lead to a reformation and purification of the church.
• Kathryn echoes:
  “In this revival…what is going to happen is…it’s a total reformation and transformation and purification of the church…to get us back to what the Acts church was.” – Kathryn [51:37]

Breakthrough: Miracles Online and In Person

[64:57–71:00]

• Following years of posting one-minute videos with minimal views, a video in late 2020 goes viral—bringing 1 million views and thousands of testimonies of online healing and deliverance.
  “Other people wrote, ‘I’ve had anxiety, but I felt something leave me when I watched this video. And now I feel peace.’ A bunch of different testimonies like that...” – Kathryn [00:00/66:51]
• Revival in person began when visitors flocked to Kathryn’s simple outdoor services, experiencing dramatic, undeniable deliverances.
  “That was the first deliverance that took place through my…ministry when I prayed for somebody.” – Kathryn [73:20]
• Church attendance grew from five to 300 in two months, with international visitors and global ministry doors opening.

Navigating Skepticism and the Religious Spirit

[76:47–80:14]

• Ryan raises common skepticism about charismatic gifts, abuses, and faked manifestations.
• Kathryn addresses with humility:
  “You have to be like a child to enter the kingdom…when you are humble and childlike, that’s where you can simply see the truth...God can open up your spiritual eyes to see. This is real, this is fake…” – Kathryn [76:47 / 77:55]
• Discernment comes through humility, not cynicism:
  “Skepticism is a block right away. It's religious in nature...But when you come in with humble, childlike eyes and say, ‘what is this Lord?’…he’s going to direct you and give you the discernment.” – Ryan [79:41]

Encouragement for Potential Leaders & the Reluctant

[80:46–84:03]

• Kathryn encourages those who feel unqualified:
  “God uses the weak and foolish things. So if you feel like you’re unqualified, then you are in the perfect place to be. You are the most qualified by God because God can only use vessels who see themselves rightly.” – Kathryn [80:46]
• Honest admission: years of preaching to dwindling crowds built her dependency and faith, despite self-doubt.

Preparing the Bride: Surrender and the Power of God

[85:04–94:17]

• Ryan and Kathryn agree: preparing the church for Jesus’ return demands radical surrender, not just anticipation.
• Kathryn:
  “The best way to prepare for the return of Jesus is to surrender everything. Really check your heart. Where have you not surrendered to God?...We are called to accept God's power, be transformed, to be a bright light that can attract people...and you can then cast demons out of them.” [85:04/89:50]
• Ryan:
  “If there's one thing...it's receive the power like a child...Because there's End times revival happening right now, and I personally don't want to miss that wave.” [90:52]

Call to Action & Prophetic Prayer

[95:19–98:50]

• Kathryn concludes by inviting listeners to surrender to Jesus, renounce spiritual darkness, and receive the anointing. She prays for deliverance, healing, baptism in the Holy Spirit, and the fire of God to fill and send the listeners.
  “It is God’s will for you to be a vessel of Jesus in his fullness, which means Jesus’s power...Be baptized in the fire of the Holy Spirit in Jesus’ name. May this anointing come upon you now…May miracles take place through you as you speak, as you pray for people. May you walk in authority. May demons tremble as you command them to go in Jesus’ name. Thank you, Jesus...” – Kathryn [95:19]

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Notable Quotes & Moments with Timestamps

• On Religious Routine:
  “It was really religion, you know...But I was so grateful to have my parents who just had such pure, humble, childlike hearts...But I didn’t have an encounter with the Holy Spirit.” – Kathryn [06:27]
• On Holy Spirit Baptism:
  “When I was baptized in the Holy Spirit, I went from being addicted to hanging out with people...to just wanting to spend time with God...” – Kathryn [15:26]
• On Surrender and Trust:
  “I had to trust God, that He is so good, that he would never give me a calling that he wouldn’t mold my heart to find joy in.” – Kathryn [41:46]
• On Enduring the Wilderness:
  “He’ll take every believer…through a wilderness season where he refines, where he crushes, and that's where you become gold.” – Kathryn [47:20]
• On Skepticism vs. Childlike Faith:
  “You have to be like a child to enter the kingdom...when you are humble and childlike, that's where you can simply see the truth.” – Kathryn [76:47]
• On the Bride Being Ready:
  “The best way to prepare for the return of Jesus is to surrender everything...We are called to do something about [the darkness]. We are called to accept God's power, be transformed, to be a bright light.” – Kathryn [85:04 / 89:50]
• On Revival in Action:
  “People were being set free left and right...the atmosphere of heaven, we were all just jumping up like children, thank you, Jesus.” – Kathryn [75:42]
• Prophetic Prayer of Impartation:
  “May miracles take place through you as you speak, as you pray for people. May you walk in authority. May demons tremble as you command them to go in Jesus’ name.” – Kathryn [97:43]

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Key Episode Timestamps

• [00:00]–[01:59] – Opening miracles on social media; intro
• [02:11–05:37] – Small town upbringing and early faith
• [10:41–11:34] – College, passions, and move to LA
• [15:04–17:36] – The shift after Holy Spirit baptism
• [25:28–28:39] – The biblical pattern for the gifts and miracles through vessels
• [33:44–37:55] – Surrender, prophecy, and overcoming fear of public speaking
• [44:47–46:35] – Launching the church in humble beginnings
• [47:20–53:23] – Wilderness, prophecy of revival, and blueprint for the Acts church
• [64:57–66:51] – Going viral, online miracles, and testimonies
• [70:44–75:42] – Deliverances in-person and explosive growth
• [76:47–80:14] – How to discern the authentic, and encouragement for listeners
• [85:04–89:50] – Preparing for Jesus’ return: the call for surrender and light
• [95:19–98:50] – Prophetic prayer and impartation for listeners

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Conclusion: Main Takeaways

• Sincere hunger for God, humility, and childlike faith unlock the movement of the Holy Spirit and personal transformation.
• Surrender is the gateway to purpose and supernatural authority, often preceded by a season of “wilderness” and refinement.
• Miracles, deliverance, and spiritual gifts are for today, and the Acts church is the biblical blueprint—not a mere history.
• True discernment comes through humility, not skepticism.
• The global revival is happening now—prepare for Jesus’ return not by fear or judgement, but by becoming a vessel of his power and love.
• Practical call: Surrender all, accept the “new wine,” be open to God’s supernatural moving, and pursue his purposes with boldness.

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For more, follow Kathryn Krick’s ministry and watch full episodes for deliverance, revival stories, and teaching.

Transcript

[Katherine Crick]

Now there are thousands of miracles that happened on this 59 second TikTok video. And people were saying I had Covid symptoms, but they left after I watched this video. Other people wrote, I've had anxiety, but I felt something leave me when I watched this video. And now I feel peace. A bunch of different testimonies like, that I had pain. I watched this, and now the pain is gone. And then there were two different atheists that said, I'm an atheist, but I felt power when I watched this video.

[Podcast Host]

Guys, welcome to the Jesus People podcast. Today we have the honor of having Katherine Crick on. Thanks for being with us, Katherine.

[Katherine Crick]

My honor and joy. Thanks for having me.

[Podcast Host]

Of course, dude. I have watched your content and been, like, in awe for. For years. I was telling you before, I was just like, I've. I've watched you for so long, and I've been so fascinated by you because I think, you know, you're the post you put out on social media. You're doing demonic deliverance. You're, like, speaking life over people. There's, like, this authority, this, like, you know, like, firecracker of this, like, kingdom warrior in you. And I think that's just so encouraging to people. But it's. It's cool to, like, meet people in person, too. Like, I've watched you for so long, but now we're hanging out. So. Yeah. Thanks for coming out to Dallas for this.

[Katherine Crick]

Oh, absolutely.

[Podcast Host]

And I am, I think so many people are curious, like, just to know the backstory, to know the story of, you know, like, even sitting here with, like, your friend, and she's telling me how, you know, the church got started and how it, like, ebbed and flowed, and I'm just like, that is so interesting for me. So I'm just so fascinated. I'm so curious. I'm so grateful that you've come out here to share it with us and, you know, overcome by the blood of the lamb and the word of our testimony. So I'm just excited to hear your testimony today.

[Katherine Crick]

Amen. Hallelujah.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. So let's get into it. Okay. So where'd you grow up? Tell me about your family and how. How did, like, this Kingdom warrior get built in you?

[Katherine Crick]

Yeah. So I grew up in upstate New York in a really tiny town in the Catskill Mountains called Andes. It's a few hours north of New York City. To this day, there's no cell phone Service. There's really 12 population, 1200 in the whole town.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, dang.

[Katherine Crick]

So, yeah, my dad was a farmer. He Grew up on a farm, dairy farm. He was a phys ed teacher, mom was a music teacher. And so they met at the school, the small K through 12 school, and fell in love. They also sang in the church choir and they fell in love there with the church across the street from the school. So it's a adorable small town backstory of how I grew up. And I grew up Christian. My earliest memory is actually age 4. I remember being in the living room, sitting on the couch with my mom and my dad was on the recliner and my mom just, just asked me if I wanted to accept Jesus as my Lord and Savior. And I said yes. And so it's literally my earliest memory. So I've never known a day. I've never known a day in my memory of not knowing Jesus and loving Jesus. And my parents are such amazing, pure hearted, humble, kind people. Two of the greatest blessings of my entire life and gifts from God because they shaped me so much. Like, they. I never saw them be judgmental. I never saw them talk bad about anybody, gossip, and they never showed any signs of pride. Just so humble, so pure, so childlike. But my parents and I, my whole family, we all didn't know about the God of miracles. I mean, we know like, God does miracles, of course, but like the Jesus that we see casting out demons and healing the sick and the Jesus moving through the apostles in the book of Acts, doing the same works, myself and my family, we didn't know that Jesus was doing that today, that Jesus was moving in power through people today. So I didn't know about that. My eyes didn't open up to the fact that God moves in that mighty way until I was in my mid-20s.

[Podcast Host]

Wow. Yeah. And just to rewind, how many siblings do you have?

[Katherine Crick]

So I have a half sister and half brother.

[Podcast Host]

Okay.

[Katherine Crick]

But they're quite a bit older than me. I'm 34 and my sister is 51, I believe. And my brother is like late 40s.

[Podcast Host]

Okay.

[Katherine Crick]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Okay. So, yeah. So kind of, Kind of an only child deal.

[Katherine Crick]

Yeah. The life of one. Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

And you. Okay, so you're 34, but you didn't. It's so crazy to me because you're like speaking with such boldness and I've seen you cast out demons and I've seen all this stuff and the, like, it's so weird. Like, the Jesus People podcast in the last few months has become like having former Satanists on and former psychics on and like former witches on, and I'm like, I'm telling people I'm like, I swear I'm not trying to do this. And, like, I'm praying, like, lord, who do you want to send? And he keeps sending these people who have, like, come out of the occult. And so my eyes have been really open just in the last few months, months to, like, kind of learn about the spiritual warfare and authority and all that stuff. But you're doing it on another level. Like, you're leading, really, a ministry in a church through this, and you didn't encounter that until your mid-20s. That's wild.

[Katherine Crick]

Yeah. I was actually a lukewarm Christian, actually through, like, I always loved God, but I never had a tangible encounter with the Holy Spirit. You know, I grew up in a Presbyterian church, and it was just like, go by the bulletin. You read the bold letters aloud, you recite them together, you sing the hymns. I was in the church choir. We wore our choir robes. So it was just like, going through the motions, you know, and just like, read your Bible because it's important and say your prayers. Like, that's what I knew. So just saying the Father I lay my. Lay my head down to sleep. I prayed the Lord my soul to keep. Keep me safely through the night. And waking me for the morning light. Like, that's what I prayed every. Help Aunt Ruth, Uncle Alex. Like, I would recite my family.

[Podcast Host]

It was Uncle Mark, Johnny for me. I know the drill. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The rote prayer before bed that you pray the same thing every night.

[Katherine Crick]

Yeah. And so it was just. It was really religion, you know. But I was so gracious to have. I was so grateful to have my parents who just had such pure, humble, childlike hearts. So it wasn't like a bunch of, like, legalism. You know, there was that purity or. But I didn't have an encounter with the Holy Spirit. I didn't actually what I consider, like, meet Jesus until my mid-20s. And it was when I met Jesus that I fell in love with Jesus, is when I met Jesus and had a tangible encounter with the Holy Spirit that my spiritual eyes opened up to know God is real, as real as can be. And he's always been with me. He is with me every second of every second, every day. And that he loves me so much, intimately me, and that his plans for me are good. It was just simple moments with the Holy Spirit, encounters that opened my eyes up to that truth and that led me to fall in love with Jesus. Before, I loved Jesus, but I loved him because I was told he was good. And I was childlike. I had no Reason to doubt that, you know, but it wasn't this knowing in my heart. And I resonate so much with the scripture that Paul says, where he says, I didn't come to you with wise and persuasive words. I came to you with the demonstration of the power of God so that your faith would not rest on man's wisdom, but on God's power. That is my testimony. Because before my faith rested on man's word for wasn't this strong foundation. It wasn't this foundation of actually meeting Jesus and knowing that. I know that. I know that he is so full of love for me and that he is so worthy of my surrender. But when I had these encounters with the Holy Spirit, my eyes opened up to the fact that he moves in power. I saw demons be cast out. I saw God move through the prophetic. I was baptized in the Holy Spirit. That's how my eyes opened up first. And I was just. The fear of God came upon me that God is so worthy of my full surrender. The fear of God came upon me, this knowing, like, how. How would I know what's best for my life? That's so silly. Like, God must know what's best for my life, not me. So therefore I must surrender my plans and dreams. Even the hardest thing, that is to surrender totally your ambitions. That can be good, not carnal. Your ambitions, you know, like, good and godly. But sometimes those good and godly dreams are actually just not God's plans. He has better.

[Podcast Host]

Totally. And I think sometimes people know when they're kids that they're destined for something and the enemy tries to come in and steal that and sabotage it and use it for selfish ambition and for Babylonian territory, when the kingdom of God is like, no, we can use that if it's killed, if it's crucified, if it's put on the altar. And I remember thinking that as a kid, like, I want to do something big. And the Lord had to chop, chop, chop, chop, chop to get me to the place where it's like actually kind of a soup sandwich now. Just kind of like laid out before you, Lord. And then he's like, okay, now I can use you.

[Katherine Crick]

Yes, Amen. Yes. Yeah, I actually, I had like that knowing as a kid too. Like, I had this feeling. I. Well, I just. I knew it was different, first of all. Like, I knew I always had, like, a different heart for God, even though I was lukewarm. But, like, growing up in high school, it felt like all my friends, they weren't that interested in God. But I was always just curious about God. When I got to college, I was still lukewarm. Once I got to high school and you know the temptations that come with high school, that's when I moved in from. Moved from being just not knowing how to have a relationship with God to then lukewarm, one foot in the world. And I was that way in college too. But even in college it was just. God was just always coming in my heart and pursuing me. Because even in college I would want to talk about God a lot. It was rare to find people that wanted to talk about God, you know.

[Podcast Host]

So you didn't go to a Christian school or anything?

[Katherine Crick]

Yeah, no. Yeah. And we had a student run worship service at my college and I would lead worship there. But it was very small, very small amount of Christians at my college. But actually I moved to LA after going to college. I went to Ithaca College in upstate New York.

[Podcast Host]

Cool.

[Katherine Crick]

And long story short, after trying to figure out what my calling is, what God wanted me to do with my life, I went to school for communications. I was thinking maybe I'll be an event planner.

[Podcast Host]

Let's go. I was philosophy and rhetoric, but yeah, communications, yeah.

[Katherine Crick]

Nice. Yeah, nice, yeah. But when I graduated, well, that idea was just me trying to figure out what am I supposed to do. But once I graduated, I had this knowing this isn't what I'm called to do. And so my passions were actually acting and singing. I was a lead in my high school musicals for three years.

[Podcast Host]

Cool.

[Katherine Crick]

And that was really my big passion. God and singing and acting. So. And then I took an acting class my last semester of college. And I loved it more than any class I took ever. High school and college. So long story short, I felt I was. I felt God was leading me to move to LA to pursue acting. So that's how I ended up in LA in 2013. And I moved to LA, not having any family in LA. All my family was in upstate New York. And I pursued acting for a year and a half. Ish. But as soon as I got to la, God started pursuing me in my heart more than ever. Like all of a sudden, the moment I moved to la. And I think part of this has to do with the fact that I, I was alone. But as soon as I moved to la, this hunger erupted in my heart for God like never before. Because I was in a lukewarm phase from high school to college. But when I got to la, this hunger just came. And so I started seeking God more deeply than ever before. And the Bible says, you will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart. So that is literally what happened to me. I just started seeking God more and more. And I just got involved in this church, so. Involved. Serving all the time, going to church twice a week, five services a day on Sunday. I was serving through them all. And for the first time in my life, I'm around people that are passionate about God. Because coming from a small town, I didn't find that fire, you know, and this church, they didn't, like, know about the power of God, but it planted seeds in me to take God more seriously and move, started to move me to that place of surrender. And that is where I then started pursuing music, because I got this idea of Christian music. So it was like God was slowly moving me to ministry without me knowing that ministry was my calling. So after searching what is my calling, finally I thought I had found it because singing was my biggest passion and God was my biggest passion. So I put them together and I released these. These singles and these music videos, and they went really well. And all my family and friends, they were. They were. They were so proud of me and cheering me on and saying, you're gonna make it. And I had never gotten this kind of support ever in my life. And so that was so much confirmation, I thought, yeah, that that was my calling.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Katherine Crick]

And so this became such a big dream of Christian music. And then so through all that process. So now we're, you know, from 2013, now we're into about 2015, 2016. That's when I had these encounters with the Holy Spirit. And my eyes opened up to the fact that God moves in power. And I started to get to know the Holy Spirit for the first time. And I started learning how to have a relationship with the Holy Spirit for the first time. And when I was baptized in the Holy Spirit, the fire of the Holy Spirit came upon me and literally burned away the fleshly desires I had before I had gotten to this place of not being super lukewarm. But all of a sudden, when I received the fire of the Holy Spirit, I had no desires of the world ever again. Like, literally since that moment.

[Podcast Host]

Wait, wait, what does that mean? Like, you've never, like, since you were baptized in the Holy Spirit, you've never had a desire for, like, the. What does that mean? The world? Like, sin or, like.

[Katherine Crick]

Well, I mean, I'm not. I'm not saying, like, I'm just like this angel where I'm just totally.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, you're never tempted towards Something.

[Katherine Crick]

But it's just that I don't have the desire, you know?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Katherine Crick]

Well, here's an example. It used to be really hard for me to open the word of God. Now I know it was the spirit of religion because, like, I didn't know how to have a relationship with God. I didn't get much revelation in the Word of God, and I just would put it off. And then when I put off reading the Bible and even spending time with God and praying, when I put that off, then the condemning voice would be so loud. But Jesus doesn't condemn. That was the devil mastering himself as an angel of light, pretending to be God. But that made it even harder for me to open up the Bible. Okay. So when I was baptized in the Holy Spirit, all I wanted to do was spend time with God. All I wanted to do was read the Bible. Before. I was, like, addicted to hanging out with people. He was Christian friends. So I wasn't like. I move, I was slowly moving away from being lukewarm, but I wasn't in this total surrender place yet. But when I was baptized in the Holy Spirit, I went from, like, being addicted to hanging out with people, Christian friends, not doing anything sinful, but I would just be addicted to hanging out with them instead of spending time with God. I never wanted to be alone. It wasn't like I had loneliness. Yeah, but it was like this addiction I didn't know was an addiction.

[Podcast Host]

You were, like, medicating with people in a way.

[Katherine Crick]

Yeah, but I didn't have loneliness. It's just that I. I had something holding me back from spending alone time with God.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Katherine Crick]

And being alone. And so as soon as baptized in the Holy Spirit, I didn't even want to hang out with people anymore. I mean, I want to hang well. I mean, all the time. Like before, I had to hang out. Now I just wanted to spend time with God in the Word and pray and pray in tongues. Like, that's what I wanted to do now.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[Katherine Crick]

And so that's what I mean is like, these new spiritual desires just came in me.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[Katherine Crick]

And what. So what I experience, it is this fire of the Holy Spirit burning away desires of the flesh and instead making my spirit man rise up.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Katherine Crick]

Like, the flesh. And that's what I learned is like, we need the fire of the Holy Spirit to help us to be more like Jesus. We can't do it on our own. And like the church I was going to at the time, it was never. The baptism of the Holy Spirit was never talked about, you know, I don't.

[Podcast Host]

Can you describe that for me?

[Katherine Crick]

The baptism of the Holy Spirit? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I didn't even know what the baptism Holy Spirit was actually until about this point in my mid-20s, when I was in college one time. A few years prior, I was in this small church one time, and I heard someone speaking in tongues. And I knew it was tongues somehow, even though I hadn't read. Read that much of the Bible at that time and no one talked about it. But the first thing I thought of was, whoa, this must be one of the, like, handful of chosen ones in the world.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Katherine Crick]

For them to be speaking in tongues. Because I never heard of it before because I had. My whole entire family was Christian.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Katherine Crick]

So just like, that's what went in my mind. But now I know that this is a gift God wants for everybody.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Katherine Crick]

And so anyways, then I learned about the baptism of the Holy Spirit and I was baptized in the Holy Spirit. What the baptism in the Holy Spirit is, is we see in the Book of Acts, we see a bunch of. A bunch of scriptures that talk about the baptism of the Holy Spirit. One of them says, these people were baptized in water by John, but they have not been baptized with fire yet. And so the apostles then pray for them. They lay hands on them, and the fire of the Holy Spirit comes upon these people, and then they start speaking in tongues. It says that in the Bible that the people started speaking in tongues. There's a scripture where it says that. That the apostles were amazed because at this point they weren't really. They weren't yet seeing Gentiles becoming saved, but they prayed for people and the fire of the Holy Spirit came upon the Gentiles and they started speaking in tongues. And their eyes were opened up to, like the Holy Spirit's for everybody, not just Jews. And there's also scripture where the apostles were. Peter, I believe it's Peter was just preaching. And as he's preaching, it says the Holy Spirit came upon the people listening and they started speaking in tongues.

[Podcast Host]

Gotcha. So it's accompanied by speaking in tongues.

[Katherine Crick]

Yes. But sometimes people are baptized in the Holy Spirit and they don't experience the speaking of tongues yet, but it will manifest as they keep seeking God, but they have received the fire. But for me, when I was baptized in the Holy Spirit, I immediately started speaking in tongues.

[Podcast Host]

Got it. That's cool.

[Katherine Crick]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. I've. I had wanted to speak in tongues for so long, and I kept asking the Lord to give me the gift of tongues. I'd have People pray for me. I'd be like, lay hands on me. Pray that I. I would speak in tongues. And some. This one guy who's one weird meeting, he was like, just start moving your lips. And I was like, blah, blah, blah. And I was just like, this just feels forced.

[Katherine Crick]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

And the Lord's given me a couple words now that are like, really, like, sweet and intimate that I get to have with him. But, like, I wouldn't say. I'm like a tongue speaker where I'm like, just. I can just go on command, you know? And I feel like a lot of people listening might be like, yeah, I don't. I don't really. I don't really speak in tongues. Like, what would you say to that?

[Katherine Crick]

I would say, you know, what I found about Jesus is that there's always more of him. You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all of your heart. And so, like, even when we are in our 90s or something and we've been serving God our whole lives, we have to humble ourselves and know that there's even more and just keep seeking God, and the more will come. It will come. And I believe the gifts of the Holy Spirit are for everybody.

[Podcast Host]

Yes.

[Katherine Crick]

And so what's important is to be humble and childlike rather than being forceful. Because sometimes we can be forceful about something or be thinking, what am I doing wrong? Am I doing something wrong? And that's not the case at all. Sometimes it's just not the timing that it has manifested yet. And God uses it as a test of faith.

[Podcast Host]

Totally. Yeah. I think a lot of people, they. They encounter some abuses within the charismatic community and feel shame, like, oh, I'm not. I guess I'm not spiritual enough or I'm not holy enough. And so because I can't speak in tongues right now, or because, I don't know, I didn't fall over when you touched my forehead or whatever, Like. Like that I'm. I'm not chosen. And so, yeah, they pendulum the other direction where they. They live a life of Christianity that's without power, that's without, like, eagerly pursuing the spiritual gifts. Like the scripture says, eagerly pursue the spiritual gifts. It doesn't say spiritual gift for you. It says the spiritual gifts. So, like, eagerly pursue tongues. Eagerly pursue prophecy, Especially prophecy. It says, have you seen that a lot? Have you seen. And I know. I want to get back to your story, but I'm just so curious, like, because again, like, for me, coming, like, the pendulum swung for me, like, I was, like, totally against all this stuff. I thought all you charismatics were cuckoos, right? And then, like, I started seeing the Holy Spirit work, and I'm now like, oh, like, I can prophesy and I can't speak in tongues. And I did just see that dude get healed, and I did see a demon just manifest there, and I can't, you know, like, what do I make of that? What am I going to just forget I saw it? You know what I mean? So what would you say to that?

[Katherine Crick]

What would I say to people who are doubtful, you mean? Or.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, or just like. I don't. Like, is like. Like, is this for me? Like, why can't I experience this the way that other people experience it?

[Katherine Crick]

Like, whether it's like, not just tongues, but other gifts. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I know a big thing that's important is to. To go abide by God's principles, which is positioning yourself where God's power is moving. Like now, I just. It's when you read the Book of Acts, because, like, when we read the Book of Acts, it's so important that we're not reading it as a history, but we're reading it as a blueprint as God's design for how church should look like and what a servant of God's life should look like and what a believer's life should look like if they want to be equipped according to how God has set it up for them to be equipped and receive. To receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit, healing, deliverance, et cetera. So, like, for example, you know, it's not like God is not confined to a box, but he has certain ways that he moves. He's a God of principle and order. And what I found is that when you really just humble yourself and become obedient to God's order and his ways, his principles, that's when you find the most of him. Because there's this resistance to do things God's way and God's order so much today in the body of Christ. Yeah. And honestly, this is. This is the biggest reason is because the devil knows the spiritual realm. The devil knows God's rules, God's principles, God's order. He knows how he works, how he functions, and God doesn't go against his word. Like, if people. If. If people want to, like, minister however they want to minister, God isn't going to just, like, say, okay, like, we'll do it your way. Okay, we'll forget the Bible. God doesn't do that. It's not to say that, like, God can still use A person when they're not in total obedience, like, sure, God can still use them. Yes. But he's going to move the most powerfully through vessels who are aligned with his principles. And he's going to move the most powerfully for people when they align themselves with his principles. So here's an example. When it comes to speaking in tongues, for example, baptism of the Holy Spirit, our examples in the Bible that we have of the baptism of Holy Spirit, of speaking in tongues is that people were going to a church service of some sort. They were going to receive ministry of the apostles of Peter, for example. And so the apostles are ministering in one example. They are laying hands on people. And that's when the baptism Holy Spirit comes and the speaking in tongues comes. And another example, they're just preaching, and that's when it comes. Now, people, I've heard stories, people are baptized in the Holy Spirit in their room. Yes, that can happen. But God's main way of doing it, according to the Word, is through vessels. And it's the same for healing and deliverance. Peter's shadow was how? There's a story in the Bible where it says the people were continually. They were in awe of the signs and wonders performed by the apostles. And there's a scripture that says the people would bring the sick and demon oppressed under Peter's shadow. Now, what that means is he was ministering. He wasn't just randomly doing whatever, like he was coming to minister, whether that's in a church space or an outdoor space, but he was coming to minister. He was coming to preach. He was coming to heal the sick and cast out demons by God's power and baptize people in the Holy Spirit. And so they position themselves to receive this ministry, the power of God moving through Peter. And so the Bible says all who were sick and oppressed were healed when Peter's shadow touched them.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Katherine Crick]

So that's speaking about anointing power of God.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Katherine Crick]

Peter was a servant of God, anointed, who had the power and authority to deal with higher levels of demonic power, sicknesses. So because he had the power, these miracles happened with ease.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Katherine Crick]

So, but, you know, going back to what I said, like, God can move. However, there's many people that have been healed or delivered just crying out to God in their room. But, like, what I'm seeing, like in my ministry, for example, like, I'm seeing so many testimonies of people who have cried out to God to free them, to heal them from different things, from addiction, from suicidal thoughts, and it's been years, it's been decades. They've been crying out to God, praying, and it hasn't happened. But then they come to where God's power is moving. They come to a church service, not just any church service, but like where God's moving in power, where there's fruits, there's testimonies, and boom, they're healed, they're delivered of something. They were praying to God for, for decades. So that's because this is God's main way of moving in power, of releasing healing and deliverance. And so he can sometimes.

[Podcast Host]

What is God's main way? Like through the body, through other believers coming together.

[Katherine Crick]

What we see through Peter. Yeah, what we see through Paul. Acts 19:11, it says they would bring handkerchiefs and aprons to Paul, like put it on his body because his body was carrying anointing power of God, high level power of God, and put it on the sick and demon possessed and the demons would immediately leave. The sick would be immediately healed. So if we read with this lens of like, how did God do miracles? The Bible in the New Testament church, it's through vessels. Every example you read about of miracles taking place in the New Testament in the Acts church is always through vessels. Not to say God has to do through a vessel, but it reveals to us God's principle, God's main way of moving in power, of doing miracles.

[Podcast Host]

Dude, that is so bananas to me that like, if we really believe what you just said, that the book of Acts is the blueprint for believers and you read stuff like that, like they laid handkerchiefs on Peter and then put it on the sick and the demon possessed and they were freed because of just touching him. And Peter is not Jesus. Peter was given an anointing from the Holy Spirit that we have the same access to. What? Like if that's the blueprint, if the Book of Acts is the blueprint, that like they shared all things, all things were in common. They devoted themselves to the apostles teaching, the breaking bread and the prayers and then signs, miracles, devoted. They were in, dude, they were all in. And then signs and miracles break out. And it's just. That's just normative. Yes, that was just normative. Like, that was just what happened back then. But we're like, we're trying to do this church thing a certain way. We're trying to. The box and the, you know, the spirit of religion is just trying to contain everything. And let's do the little light and this fog machine and the smoke. It's like craziness to me, you know, but if you actually stop and read what the book of Acts says, it's freaking mind blowing. You're like, what in the world? Like, it almost should, should like make us a little mad that this is not being seen on a wider scale in the church.

[Katherine Crick]

Yes.

[Podcast Host]

Would you agree with that?

[Katherine Crick]

Oh, yes. And you know, people are so resistant. Well, many people, many believers are resistant to God's ways, God's order, like what I just explained. Many people are resistant. Like, they're like, I don't need a person to heal me. I don't need to come to the church. You know, there's a lot of that. Or there'll be skepticism or there will be just hatred of people operating like Peter and Paul. You know, why, why are people so resistant to, to God's way of simply bringing miracles when it's for their good? Because the devil knows the power of us getting in line with God's principles.

[Podcast Host]

Right.

[Katherine Crick]

So the devil feeds these ridiculous Pharisees skepticism, judgmental lies in people's head that is going on in the body of Christ. And if you read the Bible and really read it with revelation of Lord, I don't want to miss it like the Pharisees missed it. Then, then, then, then eyes would open up and see, you know, this is the devil at work. And I don't, I don't have to accept these lies. I can come the simple Jesus way.

[Podcast Host]

Yes.

[Katherine Crick]

And be healed and be delivered and be an by God's power.

[Podcast Host]

You know what's crazy to me is I feel like a lot of people that are like on the other side of the pendulum, they look at the crazy charismatics over here that are doing all their wacky stuff and they've got all their flags waving. You know, it's like all the weirdness. Yeah. They often say things like, I just want a good Bible believing church.

[Katherine Crick]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Just teach the Bible. And it's like, have you read the book of Acts? What, what are we talking about? They laid handkerchiefs on Peter and then laid it on the sick and he got healed.

[Katherine Crick]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

And they're going out casting out demons just like all over the place. Like, that's the blueprint of the church. Literally the book that is the blueprint of the church Bible right here. And they're like, no, no, just give me the good. Just give me the simple good Bible teaching. Like, I don't need all that other jazz. It's like that, that's the Bible teaching.

[Katherine Crick]

That's the Bible.

[Podcast Host]

That's the blueprint right there.

[Katherine Crick]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Mind blowing. Like. Like in what I'm hearing is what they want.

[Katherine Crick]

What they want is the Pharisees old wine revelation.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Katherine Crick]

Of the Bible.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. And. And you can't put new wine into old wineskins. It's gonna burst. And so God. And that's a ve. God is eagerly, actively looking to and fro, finding men and women whose hearts are eagerly turned towards his. So is Satan. He's looking to devour. And I think right now what we're seeing is, we're seeing lifelessness in the American church because we're so obsessed with the old wine skin. It's just like, well, I don't want to shed this old skin. The skin's worked for a long time. It's like, well, God's doing a new thing, you know, can you not see that? Even back then he was doing the crazy stuff. Like, the crazy stuff can still happen today. Like, anyone thinks that doesn't still happen today. It's like, well, you just haven't gotten around the right circles. That's what I say. Like, a lot of people that are like, well, you can't cast a demon out of a believer because the Holy Spirit, you know, like, it's like, wait, what? Have you ever been around deliverance ministry? Like, it's just. It's crazy to me. So anyway, we're full on tangent back on track. You're. You receive power and authority and baptism of the Holy Spirit, which, as I hear it, the baptism of the Holy Spirit is just. The Holy Spirit falls on you in a. In a. In a really special way. Is that kind of how you would share it?

[Katherine Crick]

Yeah, for me, it was just. I just had this faith. I'm gonna receive the Baptist Holy Spirit and shut up. Like, it just. My tongue was just overtaken. And then just my spiritual eyes opened up with that tangible experience.

[Podcast Host]

And then What? Because you're mid-20s, right. You just kind of got out of this old wineskin, you know, kind of like lukewarm phase.

[Katherine Crick]

So upon receiving the baptism of the Holy Spirit, I was moved to surrender everything. For the first time in my life, I've been going to a church, as I said, you know, so many times a week, serving like five services on a Sunday.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[Katherine Crick]

But I wasn't being transformed, and I felt stuck. And I wanted to surrender. Like, it was like head knowledge. Like, I know it's right to surrender to God. I want to surrender everything to God. And I couldn't figure out what was wrong with me, what was holding me back. But now I know that I needed to encounter God's power so that my faith could be rested on God's power, so that I could really meet Jesus, fall in love with Jesus, and see he is worthy of my full surrender. I want to surrender everything. Not just I'm supposed to.

[Podcast Host]

Yes.

[Katherine Crick]

So that's what happened. It became all of a sudden like, duh, I have to surrender. Like, this is the biggest thing I want out of my life, is to surrender to God. It just came upon me that. That heart's desire. And so I surrendered everything. I surrendered my dreams and my plans, and I really meant it. I think a lot of people, they sing the songs, I surrender. They say, surrender God, but they haven't actually surrendered their dreams and their plans. And I really meant it. When I surrendered my dreams and my plans, I knew what I was doing. Yeah, I was honest before God. And at that time, you know, I was searching for my calling years, and I thought I'd finally found it. I found success in it. Not, like, financially, but, like, the songs and the music videos turned out good. And so I had this big faith, like, God's gonna make this work and is gonna make it flourish, this pursuit of the Christian music. And. But I laid that down. I laid down everything. I didn't expect him to take that though that dream, but I laid it down. I laid down everything.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Katherine Crick]

And so what happened was about nine months after I was baptized in the Holy Spirit and surrendered everything to God, I went to a conference in LA where a prophet was ministering. Side note, I didn't know that prophets or apostles existed, that God used servants of God that were apostles and prophets in addition to evangelist pastors and teachers, until just like that year. But my eyes were full, opened to the new wine, and so I came hungry and expectant to that conference. And this prophet, his name is Prophet Dr. Jordavi, and he's from Tanzania, East Africa. And when he ministered, I had never seen God's move in power, the way he moved in power through him. It left me in such awe. I found myself having this hunger also to receive a prophetic word, like to hear from God through him. It's because I'm like, wow, I've never seen God using me like this. I have this hunger. And what ended up happening was he prophesied to me that my calling was to be an apostle of Jesus Christ. And I was called to reach the nations. And he saw God doing many miracles through me. And when I heard this prophecy, first of all, I had this knowing that this prophet was A true prophet. I had this knowing that God was truly speaking through him. I also had this knowing that, like, I must res. I must obey, but, but. But at the same time, I'll happen so fast. At the same time, I'm like, what? What about my music?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Katherine Crick]

What about my music? I'm called to be a minister. Secondly, public speaking was my biggest fear and weakness. It was actually, like, my only fear, really. Yeah. I. I had. I had no fear. Like performing, acting, and singing.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Katherine Crick]

But to get in front of a people, even I remember we would. I would be part of, like, small groups or something, and there's just like 10 people, like Bible studies.

[Podcast Host]

You're, like, sweating a little bit.

[Katherine Crick]

Yeah. You each go around and, like, say something. I would feel so nervous.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Katherine Crick]

When it came to speaking off the cuff in front of people, it was my biggest fear and weakness. I was so relieved when I didn't have to take a public speaking class in college. So when I hear this. You're called to be a minister. I'm like, how can I do this? Also, I had no desire to preach. Yeah. I listened to sermons multiple times a week. I loved listening to preachers preach so much, but not one time was I like, I wonder if I'm supposed to do that.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Katherine Crick]

Even one time. Preach a message.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Katherine Crick]

Not one time. So I'm hearing this, and I'm like, what? How can this be? But the moment that I'm questioning, how can this be? God immediately brings the story of Moses to my mind. When God spoke through the burning bush, and he says, I'm calling you to be a prophet, to be a mouthpiece of God to millions, literally millions of people. And Moses has a stutter, and he says, but I don't speak well, God. And God says, I made your mouth. I will give you the words this week. So God is essentially saying, just trust me and obey, and I will take care of the rest. I will do miracles and give you the ability to speak and give you the words to speak. So God spoke to me in that moment. Do what Moses did. Like, you feel like how Moses felt, but like, I'm speaking to you what I spoke to Moses. Just trust me. Just obey, and I will give you the ability. I will take care of it, of everything. Now, mind you, I also didn't have any desire to minister. My biggest passion, once my eyes opened up to God's power, since it changed everything for me, led me to surrender. My biggest passion was now to see other people encounter God's power. Yeah. So I became Wild about telling people about my testimony, telling people about God's power, leading them to where they could receive God's power. But, like, what I wanted to do was just stand on the sidelines and cheer and watch people be prayed for and their lives be changed and be set free.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Katherine Crick]

Not one time was I, like, I want to do that. I want to cast out demons.

[Podcast Host]

Really?

[Katherine Crick]

Yeah. No, because I had only seen, like, pretty much just. Just a couple people. Once my eyes started to open up to the fact that God moves in power through some ministers.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Katherine Crick]

I only saw just a couple people walking God's power.

[Podcast Host]

You know what's so funny about this? For me, like, this is just in full transparency. I think I've only seen you, like, in power, like, just in your clips and stuff. Right. Like, so, like, just hanging out with you now and just, like, having a conversation like, you're. It's one of those things where, like, I don't know, you've been, like, in this category in my mind for so long. And so even to hear you be like, I never really wanted to do that.

[Katherine Crick]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

It's just so. It's like one of those moments, like, oh, yeah. Like, God has, like, a story for everyone. And that's like. It's so interesting to hear you say that, but it's really cool.

[Katherine Crick]

Yeah. I didn't want it. I really wanted to be a singer. This was a big dream in my heart now. And I have no desire to minister. My biggest desire is to see people be touched by God's power, but not to be the ones doing it. The vessel doing it.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Katherine Crick]

But I. Since I just fell in love with God and really surrendered nine months prior, I knew I had to obey God. I only wanted to be in God's will more than anything. So without a second thought, I obeyed God in that moment. And I put my music dream on the back burner that day. I didn't. I was convicted. It's not like I needed to pray for it. It would be unwise even to ask people's opinions. Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Katherine Crick]

Because it was a spiritual. It was like the burning bush. Imagine if Moses went around saying, God spoke to me in a burning bus. Like, you had a hallucination.

[Podcast Host]

You're crazy.

[Katherine Crick]

You need to get some sleep. Yeah. So I had that conviction. So I. I didn't even think twice about it. I knew that. I knew that. I knew that God spoke and he was asking me to obey now.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Katherine Crick]

And so I obeyed. I also trusted. I want to mention also. I also, like, Something that I had to do when I obeyed is that I had to trust God, that He is so good, that he would never give me a calling that he wouldn't mold my heart to find joy in.

[Podcast Host]

That's. Wow. I'm chewing on that for a second. That's really good.

[Katherine Crick]

Yeah. It's not a matter of like, okay, I'll obey God because I just have to, because he's God. It's like the revelation, like, whatever God calls me to do is the best thing, will lead the most amount of people to Jesus. Even though I think me singing would lead more people to Jesus, you know, right now, in this moment.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Katherine Crick]

And will give me the most joy because it's what I was created for. It's what I was created to do on this earth.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Yeah. It reminds me of the John Piper quote that God is most pleased with us when we are most satisfied with Him. Yeah. I probably butchered that quote.

[Katherine Crick]

But.

[Podcast Host]

But it's like, yeah, if you actually stop and you're like, man, if I. If I fully lay this down and I just. I answer the call, it's not like I'm. I'm doing it begrudgingly and it's going to be a worse life and it's not going to be as fun, and I'm not going to have as much peace and as much joy and as much adventure. He's like, actually, when you lose your life, you find it.

[Katherine Crick]

Yes.

[Podcast Host]

It's like 10x 10x joy, 10x fun, 10x adventure. But he's looking for the ones that are like, yeah, I'll lay it down. Because it's costly and scary. It's like getting to the edge of the cliff and you're jumping in the water and you're like, ah. And you make the decision to do it and you're like, okay, that was really fun. So that's so cool.

[Katherine Crick]

Yes. I love that you said that because that's my testimony. Like, when you lose your life, then you find it.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Katherine Crick]

Because now. And I know we'll get to the in between of this part, but like, now, fast forward, that was 2016. So now fast forward, actually, it's powerful because we're speaking right now in September, and it was September, towards the end of September, that this took place mid September, that I received this prophecy. So fast forward nine years later, I can tell you that the joy and abundant life that I have, I know that a shadow of a doubt is so much more than the joy I would have had doing the music pursuit. The music Dream. Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

And it probably wouldn't have worked out because he's too kind. He's too kind for it to work out, you know, if he's got more for you. And I feel like that's, that's part of my story too, is like, like, please, Lord, can I do this? Can I please do this? Well, I'll keep doing it for a little while because I just think this is the way. I think this is the path. Sure, you'll be more glorified by this, Lord. More, more people are over here, you know.

[Katherine Crick]

Right.

[Podcast Host]

And he's like, no, let's do the non obvious thing. And, and that's the kingdom. It's upside down, backwards and beautiful. I want to take a quick break and I want to tell you about a ministry that my family personally supports. It' Christian Relief. And you may not know this, but there are more persecuted Christians around the world than ever before. And Global Christian Relief sends medical aid. They send Bibles to persecuted countries that don't have access to them. They're providing shelter. They're taking care of the least of these in the name of Jesus. And if you want to support them, you can click the link in the show notes. You can read stories of what God's doing in the persecuted church. And know this. Jesus says that what you've done for the least of these, you've done for him. But also that when we love each other as a body of Christ, the rest of the world will see him. So go check it out. Okay, so then when did you start the church?

[Katherine Crick]

Yeah, so I received that calling and it, it was God's will that the same prophet who prophesied to me that he would become my spiritual father and mentor. So that's how I grew so much. I learned so much. That was my Bible college. It was getting that equipping and training and prophetic guidance through my spiritual father and mentor. So nine months to the day, I did not plan that, but God did. Nine months to the day of receiving the prophecy is when I started the church. When God called me to start the church. And that was June 18, 2017. And it started.

[Podcast Host]

Cool.

[Katherine Crick]

It started in the most humble of beginnings as a worship night on Mulholland Drive on a little overlook spot that just had room for maybe 10 people to stand. And I went out there with my guitar. I didn't play guitar very well, just taught myself. And I would lead worship and I would preach the message. And we'd have just a couple people come, sometimes five people or something, but just Very small. I would just put posts out on Facebook, Christian groups, like, come worship with us. A sunset worship night. I had a lot of Christian friends, like, almost probably a hundred at the church I was going to. But you know, you know how people didn't receive Jesus in his hometown? Yeah, that's like, what happened. Like, no one, no, pretty much no one, hardly anyone knew about the power of God. And so I sounded probably crazy to them. You know, a prophet prophesied this and an apostle when they would never remember. Public speaking was my biggest fear and weakness. So no one could ever picture me, I don't think, being a preacher.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, yeah. They probably thought you lost your marbles a little bit.

[Katherine Crick]

I'm sure people didn't really say it, but I'm pretty sure, like. So none of them, like, came to, like, the worship nights and stuff. So it was very humble, small beginnings. That's how it started. Then we went into a church building that fall. We started having Sunday services. We had about 20 people the first year. And then God began to take me through a wilderness which produces oil and a refining that produces that, where the fire produces gold. That's what took place from there, because.

[Podcast Host]

Explain the oil real fast. So when you say the wilderness produced oil, what are you talking about?

[Katherine Crick]

Yeah. For wine to become wine, grapes have to be crushed. For oil to become oil, olives have to be crushed. So God will take every person, every believer, every follower of his through a wilderness season where he refines, where he crushes, and that's where you become gold. And that's where the oil of anointing is produced, comes. You have to be crushed. And what that looks like is going through hard things. This is the unfun part of God's will, usually, because God's will is not all fun as we see in the Bible. When David's being chased by Saul, when Joseph is thrown in a pit, when he's lied on, falsely accused, and thrown into the prison. But all of those seasons are temporary. God allows those things. It says, within the time of Joseph, God says, I intended the devil, intended this for harm, but I intended this for your good. So God will allow, just like he allowed what happened with David, Saul hunting him down, and Joseph, he will allow these seasons, this refining, fire season, for a purpose, for your good, because that's the only way you can be refined, is going through that fire. And so I went through that. What happened was we had 20 people in our church or so, 20 or so that first year. And actually in that year, so one year after receiving the prophecy, Prophet Jordevi, my spiritual father, he came from Tanzania, East Africa to America. I hosted him to do a conference, to minister at a conference. And there he prophesied a prophecy for America and for the world. And he said, God sent me all this way from Tanzania, here to LA for this reason, to prophesy this. God has heard America's prayers and cries for revival. You've prayed a lot. You've prayed at so many conferences, 24 hour prayer rooms. God has heard, heard them and he has answered. God is now releasing this revival. And in this revival he is restoring what has been lost in the book of Acts, such as the five fold ministry. God's according to Ephesians 4, 11, 16, God's design of equipping the body so that the body is not deceived by the devil doesn't remain babies, but is brought into maturity and is able to do what they were called to do, do works of God themselves, do acts of God themselves. And so apostles and prophets have been missing. And that's a big key. This is a side note, but that's a big reason why we have diverted away from what we see in the Book of Acts is because we've gotten the foundation wrong. Ephesians 2:20. Now this is New Testament. It says the foundation of the body of Christ is built upon the apostles and prophets with Christ Jesus as the chief cornerstone. There's a reason why the 12 disciples were all apostles, because this is apostles have a grace to pioneer, to plant churches. They have a grace of doing that and of making sure the foundation is in order. And they have the grace to walk in God's power, as it says. It says a true sign of an apostle is that they walk in signs, wonders and miracles.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Katherine Crick]

So they have this grace to operate in different giftings, in the pastoral gifting and a teaching gifting and evangelist gifting and a prophetic gifting before the other offices come along. Okay, so anyways, the apostles and prophets, they are the foundation of the equipping that needs to take place for the body of Christ to be strong, equipped and spiritually see the schemes of the devil to have victory over the devil. So anyways, in this revival he prophesied God is restoring what has been lost. He is raising up and calling apostles and prophets. Specifically in this revival, it's different than past revivals, but in this revival what is going to happen is it's not going to be a fading revival, but it's a revival that is here to stay before Jesus returns. The Bride has to be ready. The bride has to be without spot, blemish or wrinkle. We have to be prepared. It says in the Word that the bride will be prepared for the return of Jesus. So this revival is the end time revival, where it's not just. It's not. It's not simply about souls being saved and some miracles happened. It is that. But it's a total reformation and transformation and purification of the church of the Body of Christ to get us back to what the Acts church was so that so many more people can be saved and truly saved and delivered, not bound by the devil anymore. And like, what I mean by truly saved is like me, I was going to churches that didn't carry God's power. And I, I was not surrendered to God. I was not surrendered. And this is a state of a lot of people in the body of Christ today. They're going to church week after week, but they're not totally surrendered because they haven't met Jesus. They have not encountered God's power because the foundation has been lacking. So he prophesied this prophet, Jordevi, that revival is now. It's no longer the time to pray for revival, but revival is now. Now. And it will spread across the US it will spread across the whole world.

[Podcast Host]

When was this?

[Katherine Crick]

This was in 2017.

[Podcast Host]

I mean, shoot, I think we're seeing the beginnings of it.

[Katherine Crick]

Oh, yes, it's here, it's here, it's here.

[Podcast Host]

I like, actually, the guy we just had previously on ASAP Preach. He. He made this comment where he was like, he's like, yeah, you know, we could probably couldn't have talked about this, you know, 10 years ago or so. Like, people have thought we were crazy. And I'm like, what a was. Yeah, that like, like the, the. The kingdom of God has advanced forcefully in the last 10 years. Even on social media. You know, you and I are both on social media. Like, we're seeing like, this is crazy. Like, we're talking like stadiums, you know, Billy Graham, like, I don't know, 40,000 people would fill a stadium. Yeah, it's like a video. You know what I mean? Like half a video. Yeah, it's just, it's just bonkers to me. It's amazing.

[Katherine Crick]

Yes.

[Podcast Host]

Okay, so what do you foresee now? What do you think is going to continue to happen? I mean, just more signs, miracles and wonders. How is the bride going to be made ready?

[Katherine Crick]

Well, yes, this is what God's already begun to do in this revival. You know, God is showing signs that he is truly moving in power that he has brought revival and that it's time to get in line with a new thing that God is doing as more people humble themselves so that their spiritual eyes may open up to see the seasons, to know, to discern the seasons we are in.

[Podcast Host]

And you know, you mean the end time seasons, because we don't know the day or the hour.

[Katherine Crick]

Right.

[Podcast Host]

But he says you can know the.

[Katherine Crick]

Seasons, but the seasons of. This is the time to be. To be prepared.

[Podcast Host]

This is the time to keep oil in your lamp.

[Katherine Crick]

Yes. Hallelujah.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Katherine Crick]

And that there must be a revival before Jesus returns. It's time to get in line with God's move.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Katherine Crick]

And do away with. With the old religious tradition. Comfortable way. Yes.

[Podcast Host]

Which is. Which is prevalent still.

[Katherine Crick]

Yes.

[Podcast Host]

What is going to shake that?

[Katherine Crick]

Well, God's mighty hand, I tell you what. God's mighty hand, I mean, well, it's only God that can do that. And I've seen him do it. I've seen him do it. I mean, he's shocked me. It's like when he decides to move, nothing can stop it. And this is the thing. There's a lot of people out in the world. There's a lot of believers around the world that truly want Jesus, that truly want his will. There's others that don't. We live in a time that's just like the times of Jesus where there was precious disciples who follow Jesus and more were added to their number daily. But there were also the Pharisees who worked so hard to try to deceive people, to stop the move of God.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Katherine Crick]

But they worked so hard. They went to the biggest extreme of crucifying Jesus. But nothing could stop God's will from being done. Nothing could stop revival from expanding. Look where we are today, where technically Christianity is the biggest religion in the world today. Nothing can stop God's plans, God's move. So, like for me, when the church started with 20, and the next year we had 15, and the next year we had 10, and the next year we had 5. And then Covid hit and then we were down to about two of us.

[Podcast Host]

For how long? For how long was this?

[Katherine Crick]

Like about four years.

[Podcast Host]

Okay, for four years, you're not seeing a lot of fruit.

[Katherine Crick]

After the first year, I went and I received impartation of anointing at my spiritual father's church in Tanzania. He prayed for me. Impartation of anointing came upon me after I had been ministering for nine months to people not seeing manifestation of God's Power. I would see people touched by the message, but I wouldn't see the manifest manifestations of the Holy Spirit moving. Yeah, but that Sunday, after receiving impartation of anointing, suddenly I saw God move in power through me for the first time.

[Podcast Host]

Whoa. Okay, so what is that impartation of anointing? Like, he laid hands on you and he prayed for you to receive anointing.

[Katherine Crick]

Just like in the B. Elijah to Elisha.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Katherine Crick]

Moses to Joshua, Paul to Timothy. Yeah, he, in that moment, I mean, he. Impartation can come by the laying on of hands. It can come even by saying, like declaring it, I release this anointing that God has poured upon me into your life for this moment. For me, he actually poured oil and anointing came through that oil upon my.

[Podcast Host]

Head, which is so biblical. And people are like, would probably think that's weird.

[Katherine Crick]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

But like that, that happened all throughout the Scriptures to like put oil on people, to put oil on doorposts, to like, to anoint with oil.

[Katherine Crick]

Yeah, yeah.

[Podcast Host]

So that's so cool.

[Katherine Crick]

Yeah. So when I came back to my church, I had this fire in me. I knew I was changed. Receiving that invitation, I got on the plane and before it was like a 24 hour trip to Tanzania, from East Africa, from LA. And I would like watch movies and everything. Nothing wrong with watching movies on planes. But I had this fire where I could only pray and read the Bible the entire 24 hour journey. I was just praying that God would move in power in LA and at my church and touch the people in power. And I was reading the Word, I was actually reading Elijah and the Bible was coming alive like it never had before. Like the revelation I was getting shocked me. Like I was changed from that impartation. And so it was just a couple days later that I had my church service and I preached and I called people forward and there was a woman and I put my hand on her, on her hand, touched her hand and she fell back with God's power.

[Podcast Host]

Whoa.

[Katherine Crick]

Immediately. And that was the first.

[Podcast Host]

She wasn't, she wasn't expecting that. Like she was just.

[Katherine Crick]

No, this was her first time, I think. Yeah, I think it was her first time coming to where I was ministering at the church.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[Katherine Crick]

So she wasn't like, oh, at this church, like miracles happen. No, but she came with faith, she came with hunger, and she fell back with God's power. And I was shocked because I had never seen God move through me in power in any way yet. And up to that point. And this Was like, this would have been like a year and a half after receiving the prophecy. And so I'm expectant. And then I hear this prophecy that revival's now. So I'm expectant for revival to take place any moment. I started speaking at my church. Revival is now almost every Sunday.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[Katherine Crick]

And so suddenly it happened. And then I started calling other people forward. Oh, I just. I just started ministering to other people. And I started praying for a woman. And this. The prophetic came upon me for the first time. The prophetic anointing. This knowing came in me, and I just started praying for this woman. Things that was about her life. It was just a simple knowing. And she starts crying. And I knew the prophetic anointing just came upon me. I was always shocked when people would prophesy. I was like, how on earth?

[Podcast Host]

How do you know that?

[Katherine Crick]

Yeah, I was shocked. And then I prayed for another person. And the same thing happened. And then that kept continuing from there. The power of God moving. And sometimes people would be baptized in the Holy Spirit. Sometimes people would fall back with God's power, and I would pray for people and the prophetic anointing would move and would touch them. And so that happened for four years. So, Pete, the power of God was moving, but not hugely with deliverance and healings yet, but in this way. But our church would get smaller and smaller. People would leave. People seem to be so touched by, like, a prophetic word and the message, but. But then they wouldn't return. But I know what God was doing through that, through those four years was refining me, was testing me, was stretching my faith. And so through that, I had to really just choose to obey God no matter what, no matter how I felt, no matter how uncomfortable it was. And that changed me, all of that. Choosing to obey God when it's not fun, when it's hard, when it feels like you don't deserve this, like you're working hard. How come you're not seeing fruit? You know, how come you're not seeing growth? But choosing to obey God no matter what. No complaining, no questioning, and still giving your all. Just showing up, continually doing that, obeying God, it changed me. That's how you become changed, is when you obey God day after day after day, no matter what, through the hard times you keep showing up. That's when you allow God to put his hands on your heart and mold it to be this servant heart, humble heart, pure heart, completely after his heart, where you will do his will no matter what. So that happened for four years. We decreased down to about two people. And then Covid. Well, we were about five people. But then Covid hit. It was 2020. And so then we couldn't rent our church building anymore. They wouldn't allow us because of COVID But then God spoke to me. I'm moving outside of the box now. Take my church outside. Whoa. And it was prophetic because where we were holding services was. It was called Pan Pacific Park Senior Activity Center. It was in a gym, auditorium space. So where we were having church in a building was literally at a park. So it was prophetic. So we literally just went outside in the amphitheater. And so I started having services there twice a week usually. And sometimes it was just my best friend. She's our worship leader. My spiritual daughter, Jeanne. Tal is her name. It was just her and I in the room. Yeah, yeah. We would go. Her dad had, like, a wagon. And we would put the 5F church sign. We would put the piano that I taught myself how to play. I'm not very good. The piano stands, the portable speaker microphone. The most simple setup. We put it all there, the two of us. We're wheeling the wagon on 100 degrees days, sometimes dripping with sweat. We're coming down the mountain, the grassy mountain. And all the time, everything would fall out of the wagon. Oh, it was hard. After four years of believing revival was going to break out. This was our life. But we still kept showing up and serving God and believing he was faithful to his word. And so when we went outside, it was beautiful, though, because, like, people would be walking by, they'd be going for a jog, and they would just be curious, and they would sit down and they would listen to the message. And then I would pray for them. And you'd see them be touched by God. You'd see them start crying through the prophetic glory to God. So already I was just amazed at God's perfect ways that are so much higher than our ways. Just being outside, it was already like breakthrough, you know, to be able to reach more people. And then God had actually spoken to me. This was actually a prophetic direction through my spiritual father. He said, the way I see revival breaking out is through one minute videos. So you. You need to put out one minute videos. Wow. And keep going. Do not stop short. Like the king who stopped short of shooting bows when prophet Elisha told him to shoot bows and strike the arrows. Or, sorry, not bows, arrows with his bow and arrow. He stopped short when he should have kept going. And he said, if you didn't Stop short. You would have defeated every, every battle. But now you only defeat about three.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Katherine Crick]

And so he's like, don't stop short, keep going. Just like. Also the walls of Jericho came down after they were obedient to keep on going many times. So I taught myself how to edit because we didn't, we had the tiny team, not really a team. And I started putting out one minute videos and I started doing this for I think about three years or so, not seeing like any growth. Just like for three years? Yeah, yeah, just like I think I had about 1,000 followers. Ish. On Instagram, on my YouTube. It was probably like a hundred something or a few hundred maybe. And so I'm seeing like 10 likes, 5 likes, 2 likes, 1 comment. Yeah, it's not even growing for three years. But I spent hours and hours editing these videos, preaching videos mostly and putting them out. Just kept going, kept believing. I knew I must follow this word of God. And then God gave me this idea right before my 30th birthday. I was about to go on a trip to Mexico with Jean Tall to celebrate my 30th birthday. And I got this idea to put out a video showing God moving in power at our church the past year. And when I prayed for children in Tanzania at an orphanage. And just a montage. So I put it, I put this montage video together and I prayed at the end of the video. I prayed for. It's just simple prayer for people to be healed and freed. And I put this video out on December 30th when I was in Mexico. And a day and a half later on my 30th birthday, January 1, 2021, the video went viral and reached 1 and hit 1 million views on a day and a half later. And the even more amazing miracle of this is that there was thousands of comments of people testifying miracles they had received while watching the video.

[Podcast Host]

Whoa.

[Katherine Crick]

Mind you, I only saw God do one miracle through me on any kind of video up to that point. It was someone's knee was healed two months prior. Now there are thousands of miracles that happened on this 59 second TikTok video. And people were saying I had Covid symptoms, but they left after I watched this video. Other people wrote I've had anxiety, but I felt something leave me when I watched this video. And now I feel peace. A bunch of different testimonies like that I had pain, I watched this and now the pain is gone. And then there were two different atheists that said I'm an atheist, but I felt Power. When I watched this video, Glory to God. So from that video going so viral, I immediately got this pretty big following on TikTok, like overnight. I then started going live twice a week and miracles were happening on every live. God just decided to open up the floodgates of his power and we would just be like screenshotting. All these testimonies of healing and deliverance of people commenting, it was so shocking. It was the most shocking thing that has ever happened to me in my life. And I was in awe of the faithfulness of God. So I kept going live and then. But then we were hungering to see revival taking place in person. We're seeing it online, but not in person yet at our church. We're still in the park. So at that time when that video went viral, we had about five people. And not like usual people, just like on that day in January, five people are there at the church service.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Katherine Crick]

And so then we. People start trickling in because the videos are circulating. More videos are now going viral to circulating. So we're starting to get 1, 2, 3 people trickling in week by week because of the videos they saw. They wouldn't really stay though. So we grew to about 20 something people in two months. From about five to 20 something. March 2021, this woman travels from Massachusetts. She says she saw the video, a video, and she said she saw Jesus in my eyes. Glory to God. So because of that, she knew she had to come to our church service and encounter Jesus. So she flew to our very simple church service in the park of 20 something people. She flew from Massachusetts that same day and she brought someone with her. And that same day somebody also flew from Nashville just from seeing the videos online. They flew. That day was one of the most expectant days I've ever had in my life because I knew the principle of hunger. I knew God is calling these people, he's putting this much hunger in them from across the country on the same day. Wow, God, what are you gonna do today? I'll never forget my hands on the steering wheel, just talking to God. And so expectant get there. And it was the most spiritual warfare we've ever had to have against coming against our church service. We couldn't have permits at the, at the park because it was Covid time. But we'd show up and the amphitheater was always open. But that day there was this social gathering of like 50 people there in the amphitheater. So I'm talking to the person that's leading it and I'm Just begging them, please. We have people traveling from across the US to across the country to be at church. We have to have church. And they were reluctant, but finally they agreed to go to just the grass beside. They were done with their party or event. They were just socializing now. So we had the church service, but those people played heavy metal music and blasted it. So I told these people that traveled, I said, get in the very front row, and I'm gonna stand right in front of you, and I'm gonna preach loud. Nothing's gonna keep you from what God. From receiving what God has for you today.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Katherine Crick]

And so literally, there's just like 40, 50 people that are like, 10ft away from us. Like, as I'm ministering, after I preach, I call the girl from Massachusetts that came from Massachusetts, I call her forward. I start praying for her. When I prayed for her, she fell back with God's power.

[Podcast Host]

Whoa.

[Katherine Crick]

I'd seen that before. I didn't touch her. She just fell back. As I started declaring, like, I don't remember exactly what I was declaring. I think maybe, like, depression to go. And she fell back. But then when she fell back, after she fell back, what happened next, I'd never seen before when I prayed for somebody. She started convulsing her whole body. Convulsing. And I immediately discerned that this is a demon manifesting in her. I had never seen that before when I prayed for anybody until this point.

[Podcast Host]

And this is 2021.

[Katherine Crick]

Yes. In March.

[Podcast Host]

Dang. So not that long ago.

[Katherine Crick]

So then I start commanding the demon to go. And the demon's not immediately going as I command the demon to go. And then all of a sudden, the demon starts speaking out of the woman. And the demon says, I don't want her to preach. I don't want her to preach. Which says a lot. God does want to use women to preach, and the devil doesn't want that. The devil doesn't want twice as many people preaching the good news.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Katherine Crick]

So I.

[Podcast Host]

Is he talking about you or about her?

[Katherine Crick]

Her.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[Katherine Crick]

That's why he didn't want to be cast out, because he was. The demon was holding her back from preaching and walking in her calling. Wow. Wow. So then I got stern with a demon, thanks to God's grace, and, like, just equipping me from watching my spiritual father cast out demons. And so I said, get up. I walked in my third. Get up. And I said, you must leave her now. And when I did that, the demon left her immediately. Glory to God. And she immediately Fell back. There's a story in the Bible where it's like someone went back with so much force when the demon was cast out that they just went down with so much force. And that literally happened. It looked like someone pushed her. It wasn't just like a light fall. It was like the force of the demon leaving her made her. And there was a guy. We only had 20 people or so at the church that time, but a guy was sitting down, and she went down so hard, but her head landed on his shoe.

[Podcast Host]

Good, good on his shoe.

[Katherine Crick]

And she immediately was just asleep. Like, the Holy Spirit just put her to sleep and did a spiritual surgery in her. Which also, there's a story like that in the Bible where people think somebody's dead, but Jesus says they're just sleeping.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, totally.

[Katherine Crick]

So that was the first deliverance that took place through my. In my ministry when I prayed for somebody. And by the way, there's people who are watching because, like, the demons are screaming and I'm yelling too. And so those people that were playing heavy metal music are watching, looking at us like, what is going on?

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, you guys got even more metal than they did.

[Katherine Crick]

Yeah. So a video of that went wildly viral. And people started flocking to our church services in the park. And so we started growing every week. So we grew from 20 something people in March 21. March 21. By May 30, two months later, 300 people came to the amphitheater and it was overflowing. And revival broke out beyond my wildest dreams. People were being set free left and right. And it really. I had this feeling that everybody there hadn't ever seen God move like that. And the joy, the atmosphere of heaven, we were all just jumping up like children. Thank you, Jesus. Because it was deliverance after deliverance after deliverance. Demons screaming out at somebody. And God delivers this person. The demon's gone, the person's rejoicing, the person's praising God. Like this happened person after person. And it was so glorious. Oh, that is where revival broke out May 30, 2021. And from there, people just started flocking in, and God just kept moving in power, and we just kept growing since then, and God just kept doing more miracles. And ever since that summer, we've actually had people fly in around the US and around the whole world, different countries.

[Podcast Host]

Well, now you're traveling around the world too, right?

[Katherine Crick]

Yeah, yeah. I've been so blessed and humbled to minister in 18 different countries since then. And so just seeing Jesus deliver and heal and Save and transform and impart the anointing to thousands of people around the world. Thank you, Jesus.

[Podcast Host]

It's so cool. Yeah, I mean, I. I hear that. And I. I can. I can hear so many people or feel so many people, like, on the other side of the screen watching this, going, well, I've seen some of those demonic deliverances. It looks fake to me, you know, And I was even at a. A prayer service where the minister called me in the center of the prayer circle and said, do you speak in tongues? And I'm like, no, but I want to. Let's go. And he starts going around to different people and tapping their foreheads, and they start falling. And I'm looking, I'm like, I think they're just falling on purpose. And then he comes over to me and he taps me. I don't go down, but I was just like, okay, I'll go down if the Holy Spirit puts me down. But, like, I'm not going to courtesy fall for you, you know, Like. Like, have you seen that at all? Like, what would you say to people that are like, y. Yeah, I've kind of seen the abuse of this in the charismatic circles. And the reason I want to address it is not. Is not to, like, cast doubt. I want to address the doubt because what I want to do is I. Because I've seen the power of it, too. Like, I've seen the Holy Spirit move powerfully, and I've had to wrestle through what I make of that, you know, in processing so that I can get to the point of just being like, lord, I don't want any doubt in me. I don't want any fear in me. Like, I want those signs, miracles, and wonders to be a part of my life, my daily life, because that's what I see in the Book of Acts. But what would you say to those people that watch the videos on social media? They're like, I think that's fake.

[Katherine Crick]

You have to be like a child to enter the kingdom. And when that's what it says in the Word, you have to be childlike and humble. You can't have skepticism. And what I've learned is that the way to hear God's voice and see clearly the truth, the spiritual truth, is becoming like a child. That's the opposite of the world's way. The world's way. In the world's way, it's wise to have skepticism. It's wise to look with a skeptical eye, with anything. But that's not the way of the kingdom, you know, it's not that we just are walk blindly and naive, but when you discern. Yeah, but when you are humble and childlike, that's where you can simply see the truth. That's where God can open up your spiritual eyes to see. This is real, this is fake, this is true fruits. This is a true servant of God. This is a true ministry.

[Podcast Host]

So when you have the childlike faith, the Lord actually gives you the discernment. Is that what you're saying?

[Katherine Crick]

It's literally, if you want to know how to have your spiritual eyes open up. And I'm not talking about, like, seeing visions. Sure, it can be visions, but I mean, just like having the mind of Christ and having discernment and wisdom and seeing, this is God. This is not. This is what God is speaking about. This and being like, knowing with all your heart. You have to be childlike and humble. That's how God opens eyes. And it's all over Scripture. Like with the disciples. They were sent out two by two to cast out demons. And when they come back, they say, wow, the demons obeyed us. Jesus.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Katherine Crick]

And one of the first things that Jesus says is he praises the Father, and he says, father, I praise you for hiding these things. Passion translation says, the revelation of your authority. I praise you for hiding these things from those who are wise and proud and only revealing it to the childlike, the humble. That's powerful.

[Podcast Host]

That's powerful.

[Katherine Crick]

And, you know, there's also scriptures where Jesus is talking to disciples. He says, I talk to you in parables. You know, these Pharisees, they have ears, but they cannot hear. They have eyes, but they do not see. I can speak to them the same thing. I'm speaking to you. But they won't see, they won't hear.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Katherine Crick]

What's the difference? Pharisees have pride. Disciples are humble and childlike.

[Podcast Host]

Yes. So what I'm hearing you say is there's a difference between skepticism and discernment.

[Katherine Crick]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

The pathway to discernment is to become childlike. And the Lord will give you spiritual eyes to see the counterfeits.

[Katherine Crick]

Yes.

[Podcast Host]

Skepticism is a block right away. It's religious in nature. It's hardened. It's saying, I'm not even gonna go there.

[Katherine Crick]

Yes.

[Podcast Host]

Because what I see there, I don't. I don't jive with that. I. I can't get down with that. Like, that looks weird to me, so I'm not gonna go there. What you're saying is to, oh, come in with humble, childlike eyes and to say, like, what is this, Lord? And to Start with that humility. And then he's going to direct you and give you the discernment. And then he's going to open up the paths of the kingdom for you and open up all the gifts of the spirit. Which, it sounds like. What happened to you? Like, that's crazy to me that you saw your first demon cast out just like a few years ago. That's wild. And now that's like, what you're known for.

[Katherine Crick]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

You're writing a book about it. Unlock your deliverance. By the way, check out the book, everybody. Like, like just a few years after. I think that's so encouraging for people that look at you or look at me online, and they're like. Like, man, I don't know that I could ever get there. What would you say to those people?

[Katherine Crick]

Like, you know, like, you don't think. You just always stay. Yeah, just average level.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. I just don't know that I. I just don't know that I have the ability to do that. I don't know that I'm spiritual enough. I don't know that I'm wise enough.

[Katherine Crick]

Yeah, well, God uses the weak and foolish things. So if you feel like you're unqualified, then you are in the perfect place to be. You are the most qualified by God because God can only use vessels who see themselves rightly. We have to see ourselves where we're nothing without God. Even if we were born with this amazing gift, who cares if there's not anointing on it and you're not leading people to Jesus through that gifting and you're doing it in God's will, What's the point? It doesn't matter what you're doing, you know, so we all have to see that we need Jesus. We are nothing without Jesus, and we don't deserve anything. A lot of people, they have certain giftings and abilities and success, and they feel like, I'm entitled to this, I'm entitled to success, that I have, money that I have whatever. But we are not even. We shouldn't even feel entitled to breathe. Like, just. Just the fact that we are alive. We didn't do anything to deserve that.

[Podcast Host]

Right.

[Katherine Crick]

You know, so we all should be seeing ourselves as nothing without Jesus. But we can be everything with Jesus. We can be anything. We can do anything in this world by God's power. So you, you have to trust God. You have to trust him that he will give you the abilities. He will do what he has sent you to do. If he has called you to do something. You feel so not equipped or qualified to do. You just gotta trust him and obey him and believe that he will do the impossible through you. He will give you gifts like me. Public speaking was my biggest fear and weakness. I had no idea how preachers got revelation, how they were, like, on fire. I had no idea how they had that. I, like, put them on a pillow pedestal. Not, like, worshiping them, but just like, wow, they're amazing. I could never do that. They're so much more spiritual than me.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Katherine Crick]

You know, and now I've seen glory to God. God give me the ability to preach.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, yeah, you got fire.

[Katherine Crick]

Glory to God. Glory to God. But, you know, I used to compare myself to others for years. It wasn't. It was about four years I was showing up to preach, and the church would get smaller and smaller and smaller.

[Podcast Host]

But.

[Katherine Crick]

And I did not feel like I was a good enough preacher. The devil would be in my mind saying, look, the people look bored. Look, people aren't returning. They're not returning because the message you're preaching is not good enough. Look at these other preachers. Look at their alliterations. Look at the way they communicate. Look at their loud voice or whatever. Look at their style. It's so much better than yours. You're not good enough. I felt that. I'm telling you, almost every time I preached for about four years. And I just chose to push past the lies of the devil, recognize them as lies of the devil, because God called me to do this. So I must be okay enough. Like, with God's help. I just have to keep obeying God. I just have to believe that he's somehow using me, even though I don't feel like he's using me that greatly. Yeah. Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

That's so good. Okay, I want to lay in the plane here because I really felt the spirit on this. Let's talk about making the bride ready for the return.

[Katherine Crick]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Because I. I'm telling you, Katherine, like, I don't know if you're feeling this too, but I have not talked to a person that hears clearly from the Lord that has not been feeling a stirring of the return. And feeling, like, this exhortation for the church to get ready. Things are rapidly happening. We can see the signs and the seasons of the times. Right. Like, we can see what's happening. Like, knowledge is increasing through AI. There's wars and rumors of wars. People are lovers of self more than ever, all these things. So if. And I would venture to say that you're probably in that same camp of Like, I think the king's coming pretty soon. What can the bride be doing? What can individual people, but also the church be doing to make themselves ready for his return?

[Katherine Crick]

The best way to prepare for the return of Jesus is to surrender everything. Really check your heart. Where have you not surrendered to God? Because the way we should prepare, we need to prepare ourselves to give account to Jesus. But not only that. Part of that account to Jesus is that we have completed the assignment he has sent us to do, that we are actually being useful for the kingdom of God. We are actually being vessels of Jesus. Not vessels, however way we want, but vessels of his power that brings true salvation, transformation, healing, deliverance, destruction of the devil's kingdom. This is something that I see a lot in the body of Christ today. You see a lot of. There's a lot of people that are like, saying that Jesus is going to return any moment and focus so much on that, but not focused on the preparing part, like doing the work of God and being the light of the world and being busy while we have time. You know, Jesus said to the disciples, when they're saying, when will you return? Basically, he says, it's not for you to know the time, the hour, but you will receive the power of the Holy Spirit and you will go into the world and you will preach the gospel and heal the sick and cast out demons. So Jesus is diverting them. A lot of people, you know, have.

[Podcast Host]

Been like, so focused on.

[Katherine Crick]

So focused on Jesus returning and forgetting about the end time revival that must come first. They're forgetting about that we have to be prepared. We're forgetting they're not looking at the state of the body of Christ and seeing a problem and. Which is partly themselves, you know, and the. So what Jesus is saying really there is like, get busy, don't focus on that. You have a lot of work to do. There's a scripture that says in the end times, in the last days, people will be lovers of self. People will have a form of godliness but deny its power. There's. I think it's a new living, such people. New living? Yeah, new living translation. I believe it says something like, people will have a form of godliness. They will act religiously but deny the power that can transform them, that can make them like Jesus. And so I see a lot today of people being judgmental, believers being judgmental, being judgmental of the people in the world that are not believers. How can these people be so evil? And they're putting that out there. They're putting out hate and Judgment rather than being the light. At the same time, there's many believers and some the same that are judging the church. They're judging. I mean, they're judging one another, their family in Christ. They're judging servants of God who are carrying God's power. They are denying God's power, denying God's power. That can actually bring transformation. Now what we should be doing is accepting God's power, accepting this grace he has brought us revival. Accept the new thing he's doing. Accept the new servants of God he's raising up. Accept apostles, prophets. Accept the ministry of deliverance. Except the anointing.

[Podcast Host]

Yes.

[Katherine Crick]

And this new precious, powerful thing he's doing. Rather than judge it, accept it. So you yourself can be transformed by God's power. Like what I shared, I needed to be transformed. Then you can be a bright light to the world. Then you can be loving instead of. Of judgmental to the world. And when you are loving and when you are shining your light, then people will be attracted. They will want to come and listen to what you have to say about Jesus rather than feeling judged and pushed away. Pushed away. Then they will want to come to church when you invite them to come to church. We are called to be the light that attracts and to be the light. We have to be love, not hate. We have to be childlike and humble, not judgmental and skeptical. We have to be pure in heart. And that's God was really speaking to me recently. It's so ironic. Like, a lot of people are judgmental about the state of the world today, the state of people today. I can't believe the world has gotten this evil in this way. I can't believe people are so evil this way. But what's wild is that we can actually do something about it. We don't have to just sit here, like angry and watch it. We are called to do something about it. We are called to accept God's power, be transformed, to be a bright light that can attract people doing evil in darkness and come to the light. And you can then cast demons out of them.

[Podcast Host]

Right.

[Katherine Crick]

Rather than judging them for having demons, you can cast demons out of them.

[Podcast Host]

Let's go.

[Katherine Crick]

And they'll stop doing the evil things that demons are making them do. And they will start being godly and lead others to Jesus. Imagine that.

[Podcast Host]

Amen. Amen. And even if you look at the way Paul writes, he typically will do these lists, and then the last thing he says, he adds emphasis to it. So does this list emphasis? Does this list emphasis? So in the last Days, people will be lovers, yourself, lovers of money, unappeasable, ungrateful, unholy, slanderous, treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, having the appearance of godliness, yet denying his power. Avoid such people go through the whole list to get to the having the appearance of godliness but denying his power. So who do we avoid in the end times?

[Katherine Crick]

Pharisees.

[Podcast Host]

Pharisees. Religious people who aren't operating under the power and the anointing of the Holy Spirit. That if I look at the American church right now, there's one message to the American church, it's receive the power like a child.

[Katherine Crick]

Yes. Yes.

[Podcast Host]

Get off of your. Your. Your high horse, of your old wine skin and say, what are you doing right now, Lord? And how can I be a part of it? Because there's End times revival happening right now. And I personally don't want to miss that wave. I don't want to miss that wave. So if there's one thing that I want to be very conscious of in the end times, which I fully believe we're in, because I can see the science, we can see the seasons. It's. I don't want to miss the power of God. And so for me, like, forget all the denominations. Forget all the, you know, abuses of the weirdness or whatever. I don't want to. I don't want to have a fraction of the power of the anointing of the Holy Spirit right now. Because if he's going to use anybody on the earth right now, it's going to be the. The children who come to him and they're like, I don't. I don't really have anything to give you, Lord, but like, but, but like my worship and. But my all. And he's like, boom, power. I can use that man. He's looking for the war horses. Like he says, the meek will inherit the earth. It's prophetic. He's saying, it's the meek. That that word is prowse, which means to tame a wild mustang, the Greeks would go into the mountains, they would find mustangs. They would gentle them into war horses and they'd take them to war. So it's not meek is a mouse that will inherit the earth. It's meek is a mustang. It's meek is a war horse that will inherit the earth. He's looking for those who have fully lost the operating system that they were currently under, that have fully lost control of their lives. And they said, it's all yours, Jesus. I've put the bit in my mouth. I put the saddle on my back. You take the reins wherever you say go. And then when the horn blows, we're going to war. And I'm being so attentive to even, like, the slightest nudge of your reins. I'm listening to your voice at every corner. And then God's like, I can use that man.

[Katherine Crick]

Yes.

[Podcast Host]

I can use that woman. Like, let's go. Those are the people he's going to use. It's the meek that are going to inherit the earth. It's the ones who are ready to receive the power. The ones who aren't like, ah, I gu. Let me strategize my way to get this thing, this big ministry. Like, how do I get the followers? How do I get the big church? It's like, no, no, no. Wait on the Lord, and he'll renew your strength, open your hands, give him everything. And sometimes he. Well, not sometimes. Always. He has to chop. He has to take you into the wilderness, and you have to. You have to endure the four years of a fail, a failing church on. On paper, right? Like, just give up, Catherine. Give up. Boom. All of a sudden, the spirit of God falls. And now you're in 18. What was it, 18 different countries preaching the gospel on social media, casting out demons. And people are happening with this lady. This is insane. But it was the waiting. It was the season of waiting. It was those four years in the wilderness with the Lord. And I'm sure you look back at those times, you're like, I wouldn't trade those for anything. Like, I'm sure there's stories, there's times with Jesus that, like, we will never know, that we're so sweet with him, as I have with him, too. Like, with. With our bridegroom. Like, just those intimate, sweet moments that you have with him in the wilderness. But people see the stage.

[Katherine Crick]

Yes.

[Podcast Host]

And people see the.

[Katherine Crick]

The.

[Podcast Host]

You know, the travel, and people see the followers, and they're like, how do I get that? I just want that. It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on.

[Katherine Crick]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

You open your hands, you chop everything from your life, and you say, lord, it's all yours. You can take it. You can do whatever you want with it. You can pivot me. You can take someone who's, you know, on paper, not a great speaker, and use them to be this powerful, anointed woman of God in the church. Like. But it all starts with complete surrender. It all starts with the loss of ownership of your life. And that, to me, is what it looks like for the bride to make herself ready.

[Katherine Crick]

Yes.

[Podcast Host]

Is to say, like, I have purified my life. Everything's gone. Like, it's all yours. Lord doesn't mean you go and sell your house. It means you listen to the Holy Spirit and you do whatever he says to do. You have the posture with your hands and your heart to say, it's all yours anyway. Like, you're going to steward this better than I'm going to steward this. And the religious spirit, it they having the appearance of godliness, yet denying his power is, let me hold on to my life. Let me hold on to my church. We've done church this way for so long, right? This is how it's worked. You know, we don't want to. We don't want to rock the boat. We don't want to make people upset. And it's like, no, let's. Let's shake these pews, because the remnant's gonna rise.

[Katherine Crick]

Amen.

[Podcast Host]

And the anointed are gonna come to the surface.

[Katherine Crick]

Amen.

[Podcast Host]

And that's what I'm seeing in you. I. I would love it if you would just close us and maybe even just prophesy and bless and impart a blessing to the people listening. Maybe people's hearts that are listening, maybe you're out there and you're like, my heart is ready. Like, Lord, I'm ready for this. I want what Catherine's talking about right now. Could you just pray a blessing over them?

[Katherine Crick]

Absolutely, yes. Hallelujah. The Word says that all who believe these signs shall follow them. And some of these signs are that they shall lay hands on the sick and be healed, and they shall cast out demons. It is God's will for you to be a vessel of Jesus in his fullness, which means Jesus's power. He wants to use you in power for many different things. To heal the sick, to cast out demons. Not just that, though. That you would. When you preach, when you testify, when you share about Jesus with people, that the power of God would move through you and touch them, and they would be transformed. You would be like, Paul, who is this vessel where somebody meets Jesus and they're moved to surrender? So right now, God is pouring out his spirit, his anointing for all who will humble themselves and surrender everything. If you are ready right now, I believe with all of my heart. I see God pouring out this anointing through the screen now and filling you with his power. You will be changed forever from this moment, as the power of God comes upon you. I see right now that many people are about to be delivered, be healed. Some are going to be baptized in the Holy Spirit. The fire is going to come upon you. Some people who've never spoken in tongues. You're going to start speaking in tongues. And many will receive impartation of anointing. I encourage you right now to just surrender to Jesus, to just speak aloud. This gives him permission to come and have his way. So just whatever you feel the Holy Spirit leading you to renounce. To renounce any kind of oppression and renounce any fleshly ways you were living, just do that now and surrender to him. Thank you, Jesus. Thank you, Holy Spirit. Thank you for your power. Thank you Jesus for your anointing. Thank you for revival. I declare right now that every curse would be broken off your life in Jesus name. I detach you from whatever demonic spirits you have renounced. Whatever demonic spirit is in your life. And I declare every spirit must go go. All addiction, depression, anxiety, all must go. All infirmities, all rage, all mental torment, mental issues, sleeping problems, all must go in Jesus name. And I declare every spirit of religion condemnation. This voice in your head that speaks against you, that speaks against your relationship with God. That just puts you down and speaks against your identity in Christ. This must go in Jesus name. I speak healing all pain, all sickness. It must go in Jesus name. And I release the fire of the Holy Spirit now to come upon you. Be baptized in the fire of the Holy Spirit in Jesus name. May this anointing come upon you now. And may the power of God move through you and touch many lives. May miracles take place through you as you speak, as you pray for people. May you walk in authority. May demons tremble as you command them to go in Jesus name. Thank you Jesus. May revival move through you. And may revival spread where you are in your family, in your community, in your workplace, in your city, in your nation, in Jesus name. Amen.

[Podcast Host]

Amen. Amen. What an honor. Thanks for being with us.

[Katherine Crick]

Thank you so much. It was such an honor and blessing for me.