← Jesus the Healer w/ Nancy Dufresne Audio Podcast
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Thank you to Kenneth Copeland Ministries for sowing the airtime for this broadcast.
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There's enough power in every sick room and in every hospital room to raise up that sick one that may be describing you. You may be in a sick room, you may be in a hospital room. And I want to remind you, power is present. That power is there to do a work, believe in what's not. Try to get something, but notice that he's already made it yours. It's present right where you're at. Say, I receive that power. I receive that power. I receive it right now.
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I receive it right now.
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From the top of my head. From the top of my head. The soles of my feet. The soles of my feet. Welcome. We're so glad you're joining with us today for Jesus the healer. And we're so blessed to have this time with you because we know that anytime we give to the Word, it's going to bless us our life so much. So thank you for taking the time. And it's such a. It's one of the greatest joys and one of the greatest honors in my life to get to bring this Word and the message of what God has for us in His Word. It gives us the best life. And so we're not just hearers, but we're doers of the Word. We've been in the midst of this series called In Christ I Can. And it is our privilege to discover to who he is in us and who we are in him, because in him is how we're to fulfill the greatness of God's plan for our life. Know this. You can say, well, Pastor Nancy, how do I know that the plan of God for my life is great? Because the plan came out of a great God and he can't plan anything but that which is great. So know this, that what God has for you is great. It will bless you and it will bless others. So we've been looking at a verse here in Acts, chapter 17, verse 28. It's written, in him we live and move and have our being. We've been saying in the past several episodes what it means to say in him we live, that he is the sustaining force of our life. To really live the highest life available, we have to draw on him that we cannot ever draw just on self, our own abilities, our own resources, and think that we're going to come into the highest life. It's when we put the greater one to work for us, in us and through us. How do we do that? We acknowledge he is in me. Because he's in me. He's in Me to put me over. So in every circumstance of life, I'm going to ask myself, what does he say about this? What does His Word tell me to do about this? To draw on Him. We have to draw on His Word because Him and His Word are one. Whenever we are faced with a circumstance, know this, that the Word always has something to say to that circumstance. But we have to be doers of that Word, so in him we live. We're not to draw on the lower nature of mankind when we have the divine life of God. The. The nature of God, the ability of God on the inside of us. The more we acknowledge him, the more we'll walk in his ability. If we acknowledge him little, then he'll manifest little. We acknowledge him much. He will manifest much. And this is what John the Baptist said. He said that he must increase, but I must decrease. People will say, I just want more of God. Well, that's a. That's a proper hunger. But can I tell you, he's already filled you with Himself. There's none of Himself that He has withheld from us. So what is it that we're really needing to recognize? It's not so much asking him to give me more. It's for Me to recognize that I'm to yield more to him if I will decrease. And that means more not following my own plans, not following my own desires, not following something I formulated. But if I will increase by yielding to the One who has already created the Master plan, if I will allow him to manifest through Me. So it's not about him giving us more. It's about us yielding to him more, responding to him more. And that begins, number one, with acknowledging Him. I've learned this. The more I acknowledge him, the less I live like I used to live. If we take a day when we don't acknowledge him, that's a day we go back to being the way we used to be. And if we do that, time after time, day after day, we will lose skill at drawing on Him. But I want you to know, even if we recognize I've stepped away from God in the past, I've stepped out of the plan of God in the past. I. I want you to know you can adjust, that you can correct that, repent for that. And then when you come back into the fullness. Of what? Of who he is in you, just know this. None of him has ever been withheld from you. That everything that has ever belonged to you in Christ, it still belongs to you in Christ. The blood of Jesus cleanses us as though we never missed it. And then we can say, now I will spend Him. I will draw on Him. Because when we. When we just drew on ourselves, that put us in such a disappointed place in life. It put us in such a place of dissatisfaction and lack of fulfillment. But to live satisfied and fulfilled, it's by drawing on him who lives on the inside of us. The next phrase, in him we live. Look at this. But in him we move. What is this? If someone is is drawing on him, they're moving with Him. God will never leave you in an unproductive state. God wants you bearing fruit. Have you noticed? Everything God ever made in creation, it always moves, it always works. It always bears fruit. He made the fish, he made the animals. He made the trees. He made the grass. He made the flowers. They all are making movement. They're all growing, they're all developing. They're all producing something that's blessing others. Well, it's the same thing. God doesn't make anything that doesn't work. God will produce through us. The more we work, the more we'll bear fruit, the more we put our hand to something. If we're moving in him, we will not be stationary. We'll be advancing, we'll be taking more ground. We'll be putting a greater demand on our flesh and on our body to keep pace with the plan of God. Amen. And it says, in him, we move. How are we to move? We're moving in obedience to Him. We're not just out doing what we want independent of what he thinks or what he says or how he's guiding us. But we're moving in obedience because faith is obedience to God. If someone says they have faith, then they must back that up with obedience. Because it's only our obedience that reveals our faith. We can't just reveal faith with words. We reveal faith with obedience, with actions that bear much fruit. So we are led by God. If we're going to move with him, know this, that God planned it. Jesus purchased it. And the Spirit of God leads us into it. God planned our redemption. Jesus purchased it. And the Spirit of God's leading us into it. God. God authored a plan for our life. Jesus purchased that plan. And the Spirit of God is leading us into it. Why? Because what God planned calls for our movement. What God authored for our life plan is. It calls for our involvement. Because in him we move. If we quit moving, we've lost moving with Him. He will always produce through us. If we'll yield to Him. And I would say this, if we will follow how the Spirit of God is leading us to move, God will fill that movement with Himself. God's power, God's ability will fill the movement that he directs. Now, if we're just going to live this life based on our own leading, based on our own desires, apart from God, then we're not assured that God's going to be able to bless, that he'll bless us as far as he can. But just know this. The full blessing is going the way he's leading us. Because when we move with him, his power is in our movement. Because he never intended for you to fulfill anything that he's commanded you in apart from Him. He fills our movements of obedience with Himself. That's how power flows. That's how things are changed. By obeying his movement that he gets involved in. Know this. Don't out of a habit, just make movement. Not aware of did He. Is he leading me in this? Don't assume you know if you haven't asked him too many times. We just assume he would have us do something. I've learned this. Always involve Him. Ask him. Because he will not insert himself uninvited. Just know this. People think, well, if God doesn't want me to do this, he'll tell me. No, he won't tell you if he's not invited to speak. As our spiritual Father used to teach us, God's a perfect gentleman. He will not force Himself in on your life without invitation. Why is that? His honor is so great. He will not violate the will of a man who does not invite his voice into it. So just give yourself the habit of saying, father, what's your will in this? What's your plan in this? Which way would you have me go? If we will acknowledge Him. Isn't that what the Word says? Acknowledge Him. In all our ways he will direct our paths. But if we're not acknowledging him, we're not going to hear the direction he has for us. He will not force his ways to unto our life. We have to acknowledge Him. And then he will direct our ways. He'll direct our steps to. But know this. The steps of a righteous man are ordered of the Lord. Notice the steps. What does that show? Movement. It shows taking ground. It shows advancing, moving forward. It says that the steps of a righteous man are ordered of the Lord. God gets involved when we're making movement that he's directing. But if we're just sitting back waiting for things to show up, waiting for Things to happen for us, waiting for God to move. God moves through our movement. So make sure that you're taking your cues from him. Move the direction he would lead you and he will feel that movement with Himself. Don't get into the habit of making movement apart from him. That becomes a trap that the enemy will use to trouble our life. So we're to make sure that we acknowledge Him. As I said, he won't force his way on us. We have to invite him in God. Faith moves with God. Faith doesn't hesitate when God, when faith knows this is what God is doing. Faith moves ahead certain. It moves ahead assured that it's following God. But know this, when you are following the leading of the Spirit on the inside of you, you're certain there's an assurity that I should be doing this. If there's a sense on the inside of you hesitation, it does. I'm not sure this is right. Double check yourself, stop. Make certain that you're going the right direction before you, just before you jump in headlong. If I would say this, just make a movement of leaning toward a certain direction and then see what the spirit of God what you sense about that. Because sometimes people are waiting for God to God, tell me what to do, tell me what to do, tell me what to do. And he just wants you to make movements so he can direct you. And so many times when I'm not certain, is this what God would have me to do? I just, if I could say lean that way. I go a little bit in that direction, but not so far. I can't back out if he's directing me otherwise so I'll make movement. Then I keep my spiritual intent up. What's he saying about this movement? If I get checked on it, then I'll stop. If he doesn't check me, then I just keep going. Because faith is a movement. Faith is not just sitting back waiting to hear a voice. Faith knows that there is a movement in God. And I'm going to start making movement in a way that seems right with my spirit. But I'm going to keep myself sensitive to how he may be leading me. Faith doesn't hold back. Faith isn't saying, well, that's not comfortable for me. It's not comfortable for my mind or my flesh. Do you know, if we're just looking for something that's comfortable on our mind and our flesh, it will rob us of the, of the life that God authored for us. God is concerned about us bearing fruit, not about us being comfortable. Have you Ever noticed this? To obey God you have to step past your flesh. You have to step past your own human reasonings to obey God many times. Well, to obey God is where you learn skill. And so don't let the flesh or the mind rob you of moving ahead with God. Because in him we not only live, but in him we move. Now, in the last phrase of Acts, chapter 17, verse 28, in him we live, in him we move. Look at this. In him we have our being. I want you to look at that. In him we have. We have things in him we'll never have apart from Him. If we just keep moving with him we will have, we will, we will become partakers of the highest flow. So in him look at this. We have our being. He is the support for the whole being of man. For every feature of man. You are a spirit. You have a soul which is made up of your mind, your will and your emotions. And you live in a body. You are not part spirit, part soul and part body. You are a three fold being, not a three part being. Know this. You, you are all spirit. You're all soul and you're all body. You have an entire spirit, a complete spirit. You have a complete soul. You have a complete body. But we are not a mind, we are not a soul. We are a spirit. We have a soul made up of our mind, our will and emotions. And we possess a body, we live in a body. But know this. He is the support for every feature of man. He's the support for your spirit. He's the support for your soul, he's the support for your body. There is a supply that belongs to every feature of man that comes only from God. Paul said this. He said, I pray your whole spirit, soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. How can that be? It is because, and by us drawing on that, He. He is for our entire being. He's not just interested in our spiritual life. He's interested in our, in our soulish life. He's interested in the health of our mind. He's interested in the health of our bodies. You know when, know this, that when Jesus went to Jerusalem and he was in Jerusalem one day in the temple and he was watching what was going on in that temple. And he saw money changers. He saw people turning. They were trying to line their pockets for profit at the temple. They were taking temple business and turning it into private business. And they were at the temple for one purpose. To get rich. They weren't there for spiritual Purposes, they weren't there out of hunger for God. They were trying to advance their own personal well being, their own personal finances by taking advantage of those in the temple. Jesus saw this one day, observed it, then he came back the next day and he went to work. And what was the work? He made a whip. And he started using that whip, whipping out the money changers, turning over their tables. What was it he said? You have taken what's to be a house of prayer and you've turned it into a den of thieves. What were they doing? They were changing and robbing that temple of its highest purpose. Its highest purpose was for God to meet with his people. And then God's people meet with Him. And so that was to be the purpose to where God could be, God could be known, God could be revealed, the people could come to know God better. But people were turning it into a personal business and they were robbing that temple of a place where God could meet his people and God's people meet Him. Jesus turned them all out. Why? He was not okay with that temple being robbed of its highest purpose. I want you to know a soul that's troubled, I'm talking about your mind being troubled, harassed a body that's troubled with pain and symptoms and disease. Jesus is not okay with your temple being robbed of its highest purpose. He's not okay with a mind that that's troubling to your life. He's not okay with a body that can't fulfill. He's not mad at us. But he is not okay with the temple where his spirit dwells in being robbed of its highest purpose. You were created for the purpose of the plan of God. To be one with the Father, that He would live through you, that he would find movement through you. But not only that, your whole being would be blessed because he occupies this temple. So we have to not be okay with what he's not okay with. He has provided help for every feature of our being. He's provided Himself for our spirit. He's provided Himself for our soul. He's provided Himself for our body. He's provided Himself for our financial well being, for our homes, our marriages, our businesses. He is, he is to be the movement for our entire being. Isn't that amazing to us? And too many times we settle for so much less. But we need to meditate on these truths, build them in us. In Him I live, in Him I move. And in him my entire being partakes of Him. My entire being is to reflect that he lives in Me. If sickness and Disease is trying to work its upper hand on our lives. We say we're being. God is being robbed of the recognition that He. He owns this temple. He purchased us by the blood of Jesus. We don't belong to ourselves. How dare the enemy come in as a violator of. We are God's property. And he's trying to, if we could say this, be a squatter on God's property, trying to occupy what has been purchased by heaven for God's own high purpose. And God's not okay with it, and we shouldn't be okay with it. And whenever we say Satan, you're not. You're not. You're not partaking of God's property any longer. The power of God will back you up. The power of God will empower you to live the way he planned. And that is, he is for our entire being. He's the life of our spirit. He's the life of our soul and our body. And don't ever think that God is only interested in your spiritual life. He's interested in the health of your soul, the health of your mind. He's interested in the condition of your body. Why is that? Because he paid to purchase all of it. He didn't just purchase your spirit. He purchased every part of your being, every facet of your being. He knew this. Every feature of your being needs Him. And he purchased you by the blood of Jesus. We do not belong to ourself. What's that mean? We're not authorized to spend ourself any way we want. We are spending and yielding and responding to the One who purchased us. And we're drawing on Him. This is the only way to live blameless, to draw on him, allow him to manifest through us. Now remember what Paul said. He said, I pray God, your whole spirit, soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. That means there's never a day that we are to let something else have dominion over us. There's never a day that our soul is to be less than what God authored for it. Never a day that our body is to be suffering in a way that God has delivered us from and redeemed us from. I want you to know it cost heaven everything for our spirit, our soul and our body. And we are going to honor God by living with His. Him, manifesting through our soul, our spirit, our body, our home, our marriage, our children. It's all to bring glory to Him. Amen. And so this is the only way to live blameless. When it says in Acts 17, verse 28. In him we live and move and have our being. Do you know what this is? This is really called living in the Spirit, walking in the Spirit. The emphasis for the New Testament believer is life in the Spirit. This is why it's such a better covenant than the Old Covenant. They didn't know they could not live in the Spirit, walk in the Spirit as us under the new covenant. Why is that? They were not the temple of the Holy Ghost under the old covenant. They had a covenant with God, but they were not the temple of God under the new covenant. We are the temple of God. What does that mean for us? That we can live in the Spirit. I remember something God said to me years ago. I was thinking about it just yesterday because I had not thought of it in a while. And I sensed God dealing with me about things of my. This would have been my goodness, maybe in my early 30s, well over 30 years ago now. And I had been sensing God drawing me into further things. And so my response to that was to spend more time in prayer. But the way I was praying was really spending a lot of time praying in other tongues, praying in the Spirit, which is absolutely correct. Which is absolutely right. But after spending hours and hours a day praying another in other tongues in the Spirit, and I'd done this for months and months and months, God spoke to me one day and he said, I've not been trying to lead you into. Let me get the wording right. He says, I've not been trying to lead you into just praying in the Spirit. I've been trying to lead you into life in the Spirit. I was compartmentalizing that and just doing tongues, praying in the Spirit. And he said, all of that is to bring you into a life in the Spirit. Not just times of your day, segments of your day, when you're giving yourself to praying in the Spirit. But he said, it's about life in the Spirit. In him we live, in him we move, and in him we have our being. Amen. Why? So we could live in the flow that. That allows God to operate and manifest unhindered life in the flesh hinders God. Life in the Spirit facilitates God. Life in the flesh robs from us. Life in the Spirit fulfills the plan of God. Amen. Well, we're so grateful that we can come with, come to your homes and come where you're at to just feed this word into you. And it's for one reason we can, because of the generosity of Kenneth and Gloria Copeland, that when they started the Victory Channel, they put something in place and they made a decision that I don't know of anyone else who's ever made this decision. And they said that we will sow the airtime to the programmers, that they don't charge us any airtime. So really, they're not only sowing to us, they're sowing to you, the viewer. And so I would say this to you, if you will, if you're not already, become a partner with Kenneth Copeland Ministries today. Why is that? Because it's going to keep the Word coming into your home, coming into your ears, coming into your eyes, and into your heart 24 hours a day. And you say, well, what does that mean for me? Well, you never really know what time of the day you're going to need a miracle from God, that you're going to need the faith of God. And there are coming events in the life of all of us that we're going to need to have that word ready and available for us. And this is what the Victory Channel is. It is the word of God available to us to come into every situation of our life. So it's the honorable thing to do. It's the right thing to do, that when something feeds us, we fund it. We do what we do our part. Because the Victory Channel is doing so much to bless us. So I ask, if you're not already a partner with Kennecopel Ministries, you can sign up today, go to KCM and you can follow the prompts there and you can sign up to become a partner. And until next time, remember this Jesus is the Healer. God bless you.
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dufresneministries.org Jesus gave us the key to his success. He stayed with the plan that God gave him to fulfill. In this book by Nancy Dufresne, God the Revealer of Secrets. You will learn how to know God's perfect will for your life and how to accomplish that divine plan. Order this book now@dufresneministries.org.
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We trust you've enjoyed this message. Visit us@DefrainMinistries.org to learn of our upcoming meetings, share your testimony, submit a prayer request, or visit our online store. Thank you to the friends and partners of Dufresne Ministries for making this production possible. We invite you to join us for our annual camp meeting here at World Harvest church in Marietta, California, June 8 through the 12th, 2026. For more information and to register for in person attendance please visit our website at defrain Ministries.
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I am so excited to share with you about our new worship album called Jesus the Healer Worship Volume 1. It is now available on this I'm joined by my good friend Reba Rambeau, her daughter Destiny, and my son Grant DeFresne, along with others. These songs are important for the era that we're in. They're going to be a blessing to use in in your local church as well as your own time of private devotional worship. Remember that you can get it today by going to defrainministries.org you can go to Spotify, Apple Music and other platforms. For more information or for more ways to listen, scan the QR code on your screen.
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This is Nancy Dufresne and I want to extend an invitation to you to become a partner with Dufresne Ministries today. God Bless you.
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Partnership helps with crusades held nationwide and abroad, printing and publishing of books and other materials, operational costs and teams and other media broadcasts. For more information and to sign up to become a partner, go to defrainministries. Org.