← Jesus the Healer w/ Nancy Dufresne Audio Podcast
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Thank you to Kenneth Copeland Ministries for sowing the airtime for this broadcast.
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There's enough power in every sick room and in every hospital room to raise up that sick one that may be describing you. You may be in a sick room, you may be in a hospital room. And I want to remind you, power is present. That power is there to do a work, believe in what's not. Try to get something, but notice that he's already made it yours. It's present right where you're at. Say, I receive that power. I receive that power. I receive it right now.
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I receive it right now.
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From the top of my head. From the top of my head. The soles of my feet.
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The soles of my feet.
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Welcome. We're so glad to have you with us today for Jesus the healer. Thank you for taking the time to join us. And we know this. Anytime around the Word anymore is, that is time well spent. And I would say this, it's one of the best ways we can spend our time to find out how God thinks, to find out how he moves and works. To just not know his will, but also to know his ways of carrying out his will is so important. And so we're discussing so much and bringing so much of the Word to you about who we are in Christ, what belongs to us because we belong to him, what we can do because we're in Christ. And so we're in the midst of this series called In Christ. I can and I want you to know that we want to become skillful. We want to develop our understanding and our skill at drawing on who the greater One is in us, because that's going to give us the best life. It's going to give us the highest flow of divine life. And so we want to not just possess something, we want to partake of what we possess. So in Christ, everything belongs to us. But we're learning how to become a partaker and put the greater One who's on the inside of us to work for us, in us and through us. We've been using as our golden text in this series, Colossians, chapter two, in verse nine, and this is the living Bible translation, it says, for in Christ there is all of God in a human body. So you have everything when you have Christ. Now, that should change the way we approach any need when we realize, wait a minute, I have everything. I have everything for this circumstance that I'm facing. I have everything for this need that has arisen. I have everything for knowing how to move ahead in the plan of God. There's nothing of what God has and what he gives that he's withheld from us. He's made all things ours. So we need to establish this in us. It's not about us praying, trying to get God to give us something more, send something more. When we understand this verse and we believe it, so, so you have everything when you have Christ, how that changes our approach to God, how that changes how we pray. I love something that E.W. kenyon states. He said, since I found out who I am in Christ and what belongs to me because I'm in Christ, he said, I don't pray for myself. He said, when I come up against a need, he said, I just take from my place in Christ the supply and the provision that already is made mine. So what's he saying? I just take what's mine. I don't have to pray for God to send it. He said, I spend my prayer life praying for those who don't know who they are in Christ and they don't know what belongs to them because they're going to need help in coming into the highest flow. So once you understand that everything all already belongs to you in Christ, that you just become skillful at receiving of that, partaking of it and putting it to work for you. Everything that your life would call for, everything that the plan of God that He authored for your life will call for, God put that supply. He put the provision in Christ and then he put Christ in you. Christ is our treasure box. And he put, we are in Christ, Christ is in us. So what's that mean? We are full of the provision of God. We're full of the answers. We're full of everything we need for this life of godliness. And so know this. It's not about trying to talk God in to sending something, trying to get him to give us more. It's about us recognizing what he has already made ours. What has he made ours? Everything. What has he made ours? We could best answer that by saying, what has he not made ours? Everything he has made ours. And so we have to understand this. We already have everything when we have Christ. And if people say, well, that my life doesn't look like I have everything, that's an invitation to learn how to put him to work for you. Learn how to draw on the greater one that's on the inside of you. When realizing that it's by faith that we transfer our possession into becoming a partaker. For it to just be more than a possession, it has to become a manifestation. And it's by faith that we speak, we understand, we think like God. We call the things that God has already made ours, and we tell it, get here now. I know it's my possession, and I will not leave my. I will not leave my life void of this. I partake of it. I. I call it. It's exactly what happened in Romans, chapter four, speaking of Abraham. It said he called those things which be not as though they were. And he was acting like God when he did that, because that's how God operates. He calls those things which be not as though they were. And so we see this, that the reason we're not really partaking of what we possess is we're not calling that which we part, that which we currently possess into manifestation. We're just waiting for things to show up. We're waiting for God to send things, and he's waiting for us to call it ours. So that that is the divine transfer from the spirit realm into this realm, from the place of provision into the place of partaking. He's provided it all, but we need to become partakers of what he's provided, you say. I don't understand, Pastor Nancy, what you mean about partaking. If we possess it, if we already have that as our possession, why do we. What are you talking about, partaking? Well, just. Just look in your kitchen. You possess some things in that kitchen. There's food in there, there's spices in there, there's utensils. There's all these things that are currently in your kitchen. But just because you possess them doesn't mean you're partaking of it. And it's the same thing within Christ we possess all this is what Paul's talking about. You have everything you already have been given by heaven. Everything you're going to need for this life of godliness and to fulfill his plan. He's already assigned it, he's already provided it, but now it's us becoming a partaker. You just can't walk in your kitchen and say, well, I'm hungry, and I see food in the pantry, I see food in the refrigerator. Why is it not available to me to eat? Well, you have an action toward what you possess. You have to take that food, you have to either cook it up, serve it up, do something toward what you possess. Same thing in Christ. We have a part to play toward what we possess in Christ, and that is by faith. We have to put our hand of faith to action. We have to act like we have it, speak like we have it, think like we have it and put it in action in our life. And so that these are the things that we have to understand when we read this verse. So you have. And we could say it this way, so you already have. You already have everything when you have Christ. Now we need to build that in us so that when a need surfaces, we say, wait a minute, I already have the supply for that. That means I'm dismissed from worry, I'm dismissed from fear, because I already have assigned to me from the hand of God, from the provision of God, from the ability of God, everything that this need requires. And so we build that in us. We already have everything because we have Christ. And the next phrase says, and you are filled with God through your union with Christ. Look at that. You are. Are filled with God. So where is there room for fear? Where is there room for worry? Because if we have established that truth in us, I am filled with God. Anything that isn't of God, that challenges us just took God on. When that opposed you. It took God on. And to, To. To fear, to worry, to fret about something you is to say, the one in me is not enough for this situation. But I want you to know he's more than enough for this situation, any situation you would face. And know this. Just because. Just because something shows up to challenge your life doesn't mean that it's stronger than who's in you or that it's greater than who's in you. And so we need to. It matters what we remember when we're faced with a need. It matters what we say when we're faced with a need. And so here you have everything when you have Christ. And you are filled with God through your union with Christ. You're not filled with God because you earned it. You're filled with God because you came into oneness with Jesus, who brought you into oneness with the Father. And know this, that the entire genius of the plan of redemption was to bring us into oneness with the Father. Yes, in that oneness, we're delivered from sin. Yes, we're delivered from the curse of the law. Yes, we are delivered from eternal separation from God. Every single feature of our life has received complete provision from God. But know this, Jesus didn't just come to free us from sin. He came to bring us into oneness with the Father. And that is our freedom from sin. That is our freedom from any opposition. Because the highest thing that we could ever be is one with our Father. Amen. And so we need to begin to think in those terms Speak in those terms. Function mindful of that. Because in Christ you already have everything God desired for you, everything God planned for you. It's not something we achieve. It's something we receive and it's something we walk out every single day. Can I say this? How we walked yesterday is not sufficient for how we walk today. Every day requires its own walk of faith. Every day requires us responding to the One who's in us. It's not enough that we responded yesterday to the greater One within. It's not enough that we acknowledged him yesterday, every single day. This is really what makes the difference between the nominal Christian and the. And the one who is of a great faith, one who is producing great fruit. Every day they're doing the right thing. Every day they're thinking the right thing. Every day they're answering the right way. Every day they are putting to Christ. They're putting Christ to work for them. They're letting God do the work for them through them. They're doing that every day. This is what makes the difference between the nominal Christian and the one who's prevailing. And so know this. It's not enough what we did yesterday. This is a life we're to employ and put to work every single day. I love something that one minister said and to understand how he said it, he said this. Life in God is not just a permanent deposit. It's a constant dependence. Now look at that. Yes, permanently, we are in Christ. Christ is in us. But because of that, we have to constantly depend on Him. We have to constantly draw on Him. We have to constantly put him to work. Why? Because although he resides in us, he will not work uninvited. He will not force his flow into our daily life. And he is in. He is in us because he is available to us 24 hours a day. But it's faith that invites Him. It's faith that is the open door that allows him to move. So when that dawns on our spirit, then that's the end of struggle. We quit struggling to be something he's already made us to be. We quit struggling to get something he's already made ours. It's. I want you to know this. If you need healing in your body, it's not about getting healing. It's about resting in the truth that it's already yours, that it is already an accomplished flow for your life. And you say, by faith I receive and I rest in that I am the healed. And when you do that, then what you're doing, you're really putting the Christ in you to work. And that is what causes the symptoms to leave. It's not up to us to get rid of symptoms. And it's up to us to rest on the One who has already healed us. And in that place of total rest, total reliance, total dependence, then his power goes to work for us and it runs out every single symptom, every single pain. Amen. And so know this. It's about what we remember when we're faced with something. It's about realizing that in the face of every opposition, we remember the Devil is already a defeated foe. He's already a defeated foe. And so I want us to look at, in the previous most recent episodes, we've been looking at Acts chapter 17 in verse 28. And it reads this way. In him we live and move and have our being. Look at this. This is so loaded. This is so important that he is the sustaining force of our life. We live in him, we move directed by him, and our entire being draws on who he is. So for us to really live the highest flow, live the life he authored for us, it's a working that. Him working through us, him moving through us, him manifesting through us. He could only do that by bringing us into oneness. Jesus brought us into oneness with the Father. That's the only way God can work and manifest through us is because he is one with us and we are one with Him. Build that in you. I'm one with my Father. What does that do? That gets rid of poor self images. That gets rid of being troubled by your past, of what somebody did or didn't do to you. So we live. We're to live with our attention on who we're one with instead of what has happened against our life. Because we keep ourselves in a higher flow by remembering he's in us and he's in us to. To have a result in our life so that we can bear much fruit. Now look at this. In him we live so every part of our life. For it to really hit the highest flow, it's by drawing on Him. Amen. Don't try to live one day apart from acknowledging Him. Don't endeavor to live one day of your life without putting him to work for you. He filled you with Himself so that you would utilize him, so that you would draw on him, so that you would give place to Him. Amen. So in our everyday life, we need him. And I want you to go back and watch some of our most recent episodes because we spent more time on this. But look at the next Phrase. In him we live. That's the first phrase. In him we move. What's that mean? We're moving with Him. In a life of obedience, it's not just moving randomly. It's moving in ways of obedience. How is he directing us? We are going to walk that out in obedience. It's not just us making movement apart from Him. Because then that's not obedience, that's just movement. The whole world is making movement in their life. The whole world is going to work. They're in a profession. They're putting their attention and talents and abilities and finances and resources in a certain direction. But if that's not the plan of God, that's simply their movement. That's not obedience to God. All movement is not obedience to God. So in him we want our movement to be in obedience to how he's leading us, how we're to spend our life, what we're to put our hand to, what we're to accomplish, what we're to bear fruit. The supply that we're to bring in our local church. The supply we're to bring to the body of Christ. The supply we're to bring to the earth. Amen. And so in him we move. Don't move apart from Him. And I mean it by this, don't move without knowing how, how he's directing you. Because many people get to the end of their life and they realize the entire movement of my life has left God out. And we don't want to do that. Because Jesus said, herein is my Father glorified that you bear much fruit. It's not just about bearing any old kind of fruit, but fruit that glorifies God. Fruit that he is looking to have produced in our lives. So know this. We can't just live any old way. Take any old job we want, marry an old person we want, live in any old location we want. We must gain our movement from knowing how he's leading us. And the Spirit of God will always lead us. So in him we live. In him we move. Why? Because if we don't move with how he's leading, we get to the end of our own movements. And we're so dissatisfied, we spend our life in a direction that did not fulfill us. If we will, in obedience, move with God, there's the fulfillment of the inward man. There's the satisfaction to where you lay down your head at night and you don't feel like something. Something's missing. You don't feel like your life is missing the target. You're satisfied in the sense of my insides are satisfied. Why? Because you moved in obedience to how he's leading. So in him we live, in him we move. Look at this. And in him we have our being. He is the support for the entire, the entirety of our being. When we talk about our being, what's he talking about? Spirit, soul, body. Paul made the statement, I pray God your whole spirit, soul and body be preserved blameless to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. Know this. God does not want us having success in one arena of life and failing in another arena or struggling or troubled in in another arena. He is. He is the flow. He is the support for every feature of our life and every arena of life. Know this. Every feature of our being requires him. Our spirit life requires him. Our soul requires him, our body requires him. And so we can't just think that he's only interested in our spiritual life. He's interested in the well being of our soul. He's interested in the well being of our bodies. He is for the whole, the totality of man. And know this. You are a spirit. You possess a soul which is made up of your mind, your will and your emotions. And you live in a body. But you're not a body, you're a spirit, you're not a soul. You have a soul, but you are a spirit being. But so much so many times Christians just think that God is only interested in the spiritual life of the believer. Well, as a parent, I'm interested in the spirit, in the spiritual welfare of my children. But I'm not only interested in that. I'm interested that they have peace in their mind. I'm interested that they think right, that their soul is not damaged, that their soul is not troubling their life. That the way they think, the way they operate, the way they move is blessing their life and not tearing up their life. That matters to me. It matters to me that their body is whole. It matters to me that they're not suffering physically in this life. Why is that? We need our body as a tool to carry out God's plan. You need your body to carry out the plan of God on this earth. So know this. No matter how much you try to take your own health in hand, it's right to treat the body right. It's right to take care of the body. It's right to eat right and exercise. But that's no replacement for him who is the life of our body. He is. He is the one that's going to keep us well. I know. And we've all probably seen people who were so fit in life and drop dead of some kind of physical condition. Why? It's something that exercise would not address. It's something that just eating a certain diet would not address. I want you to know Jesus bore not only our sin, he bore our sickness. Why is that? Every man needs a healer. I don't care what your, your exercise routine is. I don't care what your diet plan is. You need a divine healer for your body and every day of your life. Draw on the health that belongs to you because of what Jesus paid for. Don't ever try to take your health in hand apart from his divine flow. I want you to know your body requires the life of God. It requires healing power. It requires keeping power so that we not only just need healing, we come into a flow of divine health. Health that's the highest that we are laying drawing on. The, the, the. The health that belongs to us in God, the healing that belongs to us in God. And we're, we're laying that on our bodies. You say, well, how do I do that? By what you say? You say, jesus is my healer. The power of God is working in my body. The power of God is working in my mind and it's working in my spine. It's working in my joints. It's working in my organs. It's working in the cells and the nerve, the tissue, the ligaments, the cartilage. It's working in every part of my body. When you say it, you activate it. That's how you activate everything that belongs to you in Christ. So know this. Don't think that eating right and exercising is the same as employing the. The divine health of God. You have to employ the life of God, the health of God. Because in him we live and in him we move. And in him we have our being. Our entire being is supplied in him, including the body. And just know this, we need a well body to carry out the highest flow of his plan. We should not be okay with, with a body that doesn't function at optimum. And know this, we can take the Word of God and do repair work on our body. Know this, that God will turn you into a physician for your own life. Not because you got online and researched something, but because you took the Word of God. You took the very medicine of God, which is the Word of God. His words are life. His words are health. And healing to all. Our flesh is what Proverbs 4, verse 22 says. So what is this? The Word is the medicine that God prescribes. For us. It's not it's not a sin to take medicine you know that your doctor may give you, but don't leave out the medicine of the Word, because natural prescriptions are no substitute for for divine life, divine health. And so just know this. Every feature of our being requires him, spirit, soul and body. He carries what we need. He carries what our being requires. So we are to become partakers of him that we possess. We are one with Him. He is one with us. But it's when we speak words of faith that we activate and partake of the Greater One who's on the inside of us. He is the life. He is the sustaining power of us, spirit, soul and body. And this is the only way to live blameless. Paul said that I pray God your whole spirit, soul and body be preserved blameless to the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ. To have no to have nothing wrong spiritually, to have nothing wrong in our soul, to have nothing wrong in our body. That's living blameless. And it requires him to to live that way. Amen. Well, we're so glad we're able to take this time to share with you, but you don't want to miss next time. And until next time, remember this Jesus is the Healer. God bless you.
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To watch or listen to today's message and other messages by Nancy Dufresne, visit dufresneministries.org. The enemy tries to steal from us everything that God has blessed us with, including our healing. We not only need to know how to receive our healing that Jesus purchased for us in this series, how to Keep youp Healing by Nancy Dufresne. Learn how to skillfully stand your ground against the enemy's strategies and enjoy your total victory. Order now at defrainministries.org. We invite you to join us for our annual camp meeting here at World Harvest church in Marietta, California, June 8 through the 12th, 2026. For more information and to register for in person attendance, please visit our website@DefrainMinistries.org. We trust you've enjoyed this message. Visit us@DefrainMinistries.org to learn of our upcoming meetings, share your testimony, submit a prayer request, or visit our online store. Thank you to the friends and partners of Dufresne Ministries for making this production possible.
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I am so excited to share with you about our new worship album called Jesus The Healer Worship Volume 1. It is now available. On this I'm joined by my good friend Reba Rambeau, her daughter Destiny, and my son Grant DeFresne along with others. These songs are important for the era that we're in. They're going to be a blessing to use in your local church as well as your own time of private devotional worship. Remember that you can get it today by going to defrainministries.org you can go to Spotify, Apple Music and other platforms for more information or for more ways to listen, scan the QR code on your screen.
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Shop Nancy Dufresne's books and other products as well as Jesus the Healer merchandise on our website@jesusthehealer.org or call us at 951-696-9258 to place your order today. Nancy Dufresne is the President of World Harvest Bible Training center in Murrieta, California. This is a Word and Spirit Bible school where you will receive impartations and revelations. So whether you're called to the five fold ministry or want to bring a greater supply to your local church, this could be the school for you. We're now accepting applications. Go to whbtc.org for more information.