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Nancy Dufresne
Thank you to Kenneth Copeland Ministries for sowing the airtime for this broadcast.
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Host of Jesus the Healer / Possibly Grant DeFresne
There's enough power in every sick room and in every hospital room to raise up that sick one that may be describing you. You may be in a sick room, you may be in a hospital room. And I want to remind you, power is present. That power is there to do a work, believe in what's not. Try to get something, but notice that he's already made it yours. It's present right where you're at. Say, I receive that power. I receive that power. I receive it right now.
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Nancy Dufresne
I receive it right now from the
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Host of Jesus the Healer / Possibly Grant DeFresne
top of my head. From the top of my head. The soles of my feet.
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Nancy Dufresne
The soles of my feet.
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Host of Jesus the Healer / Possibly Grant DeFresne
Welcome. We're so glad you're joining us today for Jesus the Healer. Thank you for taking the time to join us. And we are in the midst of a series that we are loving. It's called In Christ I. And we have a few resources available to you. We want you to get hold of them. We're learning, as I said, who we are in Christ, what we have because we're in Christ and what we can do because we're in Christ, and not only that, what he can do through us. And so we have some scriptures that. This is a small sampling of them called In Him Scriptures. And you can go to our website@jesusthehealer.org and you can download that completely for free, no charge for that. We want you to get hold of it. You can keep it on your device or you can print it out if you would like. Then we also have the larger resource, and this is all the In Him Scriptures, a complete compilation. And there's about 120 pages in this document. And a friend of the ministry took 229 different Bible translations and he compiled them, drew the best out those translations and made them available to us. So again, you can get that for free by going to jesusthehealer.org go to the bookstore page and you can see where you can just download that for free. It may ask you for a little bit of information. That's not so you can purchase it. It's still for free. So go ahead and get hold of that and don't even just download it, but feed on it. Find out all how. Let's just begin to find out how rich we really are. Amen. Well, we have been, of course, referring to our golden text for this series. It's found in Colossians, chapter 2, verses 9 and 10. The Living Bible translation says, for in Christ. There is all of God in a human body. So you have everything when you have Christ, and you are filled with God through your union with Christ. We've been looking at something. When we see that we have oneness with the Father, we're one with him, he's one with us. He does the work through us. He authored a plan for your life, then he filled you with Himself so He could fulfill that plan through you. So it's not about getting more of God, it's about us responding further, acknowledging him, yielding to him, obeying Him. Because. Because the more we yield, the further we respond, the more we obey, the greater the degree of God's power, of God's ability we're going to partake of. So this is really the great skill is learning to respond to him even further than the previous day. Every day we should be learning to yield and respond more and more and more. So let's make that the homework, homework of our day. Each and every day we. I'm going to respond further today. I'm going to respond, how about this even more quickly today? Or I'm going to respond more accurately today. And so as we grow in our response, then there will be a greater degree of God's power flowing through us. And in Acts, chapter 17, verse 28, it says in him, look at this. We live and move and have our being. So we require him to even live the life he authored for us to even move accurately in this life, to be on the right path, take the right steps, go the right directions. It requires him. And not only that, for our entire being, we have Him. Our spirit, our soul and our body is dependent upon him for wholeness, for soundness, for balance. So we've been taking the last, I want to say nine episodes, right, that we've been camping on. Acts, chapter 17, verse 28. If you missed any of those, go back and watch them. Because God has just been giving us utterance by His Spirit to just talk about some of these things and paint how important this is to us. So we have him, in him, we live in him, we move. And in him we have our being. Now know this to be living in him, moving with him, having our being, partaking of Him. What is this? This is really called walking in the Spirit. It's really life in the Spirit. In the Old Testament, they could not live in the Spirit because they were not the temple of the Holy Ghost. It's only those sent under the new covenant. Once Jesus paid the price in the Old Testament, they had God's Presence in a tabernacle. It was. It was contained in the glory, in the. In the holy of holies. The glory of God was not out moving among people. He was contained, confined to that tabernacle. He was not out moving among the people. They were not the temple of God. But think of it, under the new covenant, the price Jesus paid for us brought us into oneness with the Father, cleansed us by his blood, and now we are are the dwelling place of God. He's not just dwelling in temples and tabernacles. He's in the temple of our body. And we are. Our body is the temple of the Holy Ghost. Know this. And the reason our body is called the temple of the Holy Ghost is because our body is the temple of our own Spirit. He's indwelling our Spirit. And so know this. To live in the Spirit is really living, being led by the One who abides within. And this brings us into the highest flow. As I said, under the old covenant, they weren't indwelt by God. They could not live in the Spirit. They could not walk in the Spirit as we can under the New Testament. Under this new covenant, in him we live and move and have our being is us living, mindful of his presence, that we are aware that he's present in Me. That's how come I can do what he tells Me to do when it looks like I can't. Because he's in Me to do it. So know this as the temple of the Holy Ghost. We are the temple of the presence of God. Now, God said something to me years ago. He said, living in My presence doesn't come by earning, it comes by turning. He said, no one has ever turned toward me and me not met them in that turn. So know this. It's not, do I pray long enough to earn his presence? Do I read my Bible enough to earn his presence? Listen, we should pray. We should read our Bible. I'm not diminishing that, but I'm saying we are already the temple of the Holy Ghost. That does not make us more his temple to pray and read our Bible. But as we feed on the Word and as we fellowship with God in prayer, we begin to really recognize who he is in us as the temple and what he will do for us, what he wants to do through us and in us. So know this, that the presence of God abides in us and is looking to govern us every day. That he is present there to be active and moving in our life and manifesting. He's not present. So that he can be silent, he's not present, so he can be inactive. He's there to put us over. So as we acknowledge his presence, we're to be fueled by his presence. That we are to draw on the presence of God for our everyday life. It's not just moments of God's presence, but every day depending and drawing on that presence. You know, I've read and studied about generals and being. I've been around some precious people of God. And there is such a thing is us becoming so aware of the One who abides in, within us. Us being so skillful at responding, yielding to him, obeying Him. That the presence of God can become easily recognized by others who get around us so much of the time. People are many times just so occupied with circumstances, difficulties, needs, and they're leaving the presence, the God who is present in them, unacknowledged, unnoticed. The more we acknowledge him, the more he'll manifest. The more we give him proper attention and permission to move, the more we will see him, his presence working around our lives, in our lives. And then others can begin to sense that this is what we need to really be embracing that we have. We live at such a place of depending on him, yielding to him, that others sense him when they get around us. This is not. It's not spirituality that others get impressed by with us. Spirituality is when we are so dependent upon God that, that we completely. That his presence overshadows us to where people don't even. It's not about us. They recognize him around us. They recognize his presence when they come in our presence. That they don't just. They don't just bump into us, they run right into Him. Now that's what we want to really recognize. That's the highest flow that God offers us, is that his presence is what's easily recognized in our lives. The greatest longing of our life should be for his presence to be the dominating flow that he is recognized. It's only a life lived in his presence that can minister his presence to others. How do we minister? How do people recognize Him? And if we're not recognizing him in our own life. So the more skillful we are at yielding to him, the more others will sense him and not just be impressed with us. It's not about us getting recognition, it's about him getting his way through us. Amen. So there's nothing like the presence of God. How many times have you gone into a church service and his presence was there? And what happens when all the worry seems to be a Thing of the past, that which troubled you seems to be overcome. Why? His presence makes life. It brings it into the highest flow, the highest way of living. I love something that was stated about Kathryn Kuhlman. Now, Kathryn Kuhlman was a healing evangelist and had marvelous miracles and healings that happened under her ministry. And one of those who worked closely with her said her fellowship with God made it easy for others to receive their miracle. Now notice this. The way she walked with God, the way she responded and yielded to God, God was able to flow through her, and it showed up as miracles in the lives of other people. Now, isn't that the exact same truth with Jesus? His fellowship with God made it easy for all those in the multitude to receive what they needed from heaven. Jesus, what? What do we see about his fellowship with God? He said, I only say what I hear my Father say. I only do what I see my Father do. He was speaking of fellowship, and because he carried His Father's words, he carried His Father's actions. Then what that did that manifested as answers for the life of people who had needs. Those who didn't know how to live in his presence, those who didn't know how to draw on him, he knew and he was an example of what they could partake of. So know this. I love the statement. Kathryn Kuhlman speaking of her her fellowship with God made it easy for others to receive their miracle. Now, we want it to be that when people come into our presence, they recognize something got better about them just by being where we were. Why? Because they ran right into the presence of God. How many times people we want them to come in our homes and we want them to sense peace. Not strife, not turmoil, not conflict, not harsh words in the atmosphere, but peaceful. Something that God can dwell in, something his presence can manifest through. Listen, we are hosting heaven. We want to make sure that he feels at home in our lives in the sense of he can manifest and operate. He can't manifest through strife. He can't manifest through unforgiveness. He can't manifest through bitterness and offense. So we want to make sure we hold a flow in our life that he can show up in. Because he's in us to show up. He's in us to manifest. He's in us to reach others by just them getting to be around him through our presence. Why is it because his presence saturating our presence? So know this. We don't just want to represent us. We recognize we are a vessel, that we are carriers of Him. Now, one other Thing that was said regarding Kathryn Kuhlman with her healing ministry, one minister stated this. She didn't just carry an anointing, she carried the glory. What is the glory? It's God's presence manifesting. You know, just because God is present doesn't mean his power or that he is in manifestation. You can have, you can, you can understand that God dwells in Me, but that doesn't mean he's getting his way through Me. Well, even so, the glory of God is when the one who is present, he is manifesting through and it's showing up as flows of God that others can partake of. So how did, how did she carry the glory? Well, she lived acknowledging that God was present. That which we acknowledge is what is going to manifest. If we acknowledge our own thinking, our own opinion, we only want something our way. That's all that can manifest. If we acknowledge fear trying to infiltrate our life, that's what will manifest. Who or what we acknowledge, that's what we're going to transmit. That's what is going to be emitted from our lives. And people will recognize about us and around us. I don't want somebody to get around me and say something was taken out of me by being around her. I want something put in them by being around me. You, you're the same way. You want people that when they get around you, they sense Him. Listen, God will lead you to those who will lead you to Him. God is not trying to get us impressed with other people. He's trying to bring us into a place where we learn him so well that we learn how to respond and yield to him, so that he can manifest through us and bring blessing to others who don't know how to yield to him, don't know how to respond to him, but he's blessing them through someone who has learned how to give way to Him. It all begins with learning every day, acknowledge Him. When you wake up in the morning, turn your attention toward Him. Don't turn it toward the business of the day. Don't turn it toward the need that you may be facing first. Don't turn it towards, for goodness sake, don't turn it towards social media and things, the noise of the daily life. If we will develop the spiritual habit of turning first toward him, acknowledging him, then what and who we're acknowledging comes into manifestation. And if we will think often, speak often, and keep our mouth full of things that he can manifest through, full of his word, full of worship, full of gratitude, full of excellent words, instead of something that holds us into carnality, something that holds us in a lower flow, something that holds us in the natural realm. And I'm not talking about being weird, and I'm not talking about having odd statements and odd conversations to appear to be anointed. I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about someone who's so acknowledging him that it's such a simple flow of their life that they just turn toward him. And then he is able to manifest and flow through them. And it is known as the glory of God. Know this, the glory of God is not just something for ministers to transmit, emit and flow with. I want you to turn with me. And you can see In Isaiah, chapter 60 and verse 1, the King James translation says this. Arise, shine, for thy light is come look. It's not going to come. It is come look at the next phrase. And the glory of the Lord is risen upon thee. I want you to know you're authorized to say, the glory of God is upon me. Why, you are the temple of the Holy Ghost. This was stated by Isaiah. But we. That was before the New Covenant. We are in the New Covenant temple of the Holy Ghost. The glory of God is in you because God is in you. The Holy Ghost is in you. As Paul said in Colossians, chapter 2, verse 10. So you have everything. When you have Christ, everything includes the glory of God. You have. You are a carrier of the glory of God. But let's not put the lid on that. Let's not hide that. Let's not put that light under the bushel is what we're warned about. When Jesus was preaching, he would say this. You don't light a. You don't light a light to put it under a bushel. And the thing is that we have been lit with the glory of God, the presence of God. Let's not let the natural and the carnal in the carnal and the human cover that up. Let's yield to. Let's respond to him. And let his presence become known through our lives. Amen. Now again, in Isaiah, chapter 6, verse 1. Arise, shine, for thy light is come. When it says arise, he's not just talking about standing up. He's talking about come up. And you say, well, under the new Covenant, we've been raised and seated with Christ in heavenly places. So our position of authority as children of God has been raised to a higher seat. But when it says arise and shine, we have to come up to that. To that. If I could say this, to where we've been raised to let's live from that place. Let's live from the place, the awareness. I am the temple of the Holy Ghost. He is in me. To manifest, to flow, to govern my life, but also to flow out through me to bless others. We need to come up to the understanding of that. Go to a higher level in the way we speak. Go to a higher level in the way we think. Go to a higher level in the way we respond. Go to a higher level in the way we believe. Because until we arise. Now notice this. Arise and shine, for thy light has come. You can't shine these truths when you're not arising into these truths. If we're not living these truths, how do we manifest these truths? Well, arise and shine, for the light is come. Look at this. And the glory of the Lord is risen upon thee. So for the glory of God to be manifested, for the glory of God to flow within our lives, we have to come up to God's way of thinking, come up to the. To the ways of God, the thoughts of God, and see ourselves as one with him. If we just see ourselves as someone struggling and trying to overcome the devil, trying to overcome sin, we're in the wrong fight. We are not called to fight sin. We're not called to fight the devil. Listen, you're no match for the devil. That's why Jesus had to come. He was the one who had to deal with the devil because we were no match. We're not fighting sin. We're not fighting the devil. We're fighting the good fight of faith. We're not fighting the fight of fear. We're not fighting the fight of worry. We're not fighting the fight of doubt. The only fight that the Christian is to be involved in is the good fight of faith. And the good fight of faith is knowing this. Jesus deflected the enemy. He handed me the victory, and I refused to be swayed off the victory ground. That's mine. That's the good fight of faith right there. That's the only winning fight. And so it's not about us. I'm fighting to become somebody that God can manifest. No, you don't have to fight for that. You are the temple. It's about yielding to that understanding, believing that he is on the inside of you to manifest and that the more we will yield to him, the more he will show up. So the glory of God that is upon every single believer is to become known. It's not to. So we can become famous. So that he can manifest and bless others. Amen. So our life is going to be. We're going to live at the level of what we acknowledge. If we acknowledge problems, if we're sitting around the dinner table every night and talking about this problem, talking about that person, talking about that family member, that's where our life will live at that level. But if we'll, we'll talk about the greater one who's in us, that he's in us to put us over, that he's in us as the supplier, the provider, the healer, the life giver. If we will talk about and acknowledge those things, then he will show up and manifest as that. So I love this, that when that one person stated about Kathryn Kuhlman, she didn't just carry the anointing, she carried the glory. And when I think about that phrase, I think of Maria Woodworth Etter. Just as a minister. She was in the 1800s, early 1900s. She had marvelous healings, marvelous miracles. And she would hold tent crusades at a time when it wasn't popular for women to preach. She would hold tent crusades out in the country. And there would be thousands that would come, they would fill up her tent and they would stand around her tent, 10, 15,000 people that couldn't get up under the tent. But when she would begin ministering and manifesting or God would begin manifesting in her meetings, she lived at such a place, place of fellowship and union, the awareness of her union with him, that when she would get up to minister, people in the tent would fall out under the power of God. People around the tent would fall out under the power of God. But it's recorded that in a 50 mile radius people would fall out under the power of God. They didn't hear the sermon. They didn't even know she was there preaching. But what was that? That wasn't the anointing, that was the glory. The glory went out, it manifested and no one could stand. People would be as they would leave that tent crusade. They would find people who had just been walking along a path and they had fallen out under the power of God. Because that glory went out in a radius and it blessed a community. People would be in their homes within a 50 mile radius. People would fall out under the power of God. That's a manifestation of the glory of God. Now I'm not saying that every time you walk in a room people are going to fall out. What I am saying is they should sense that you are a carrier of the glory of God, that you are a carrier of the presence of God. Now how are they going to sense that if we're not even acknowledging that, listen, God will manifest as far as we invite him to. So the more we acknowledge him, the more he can manifest. So when we live in his presence, live mindful of his presence, live acknowledging his presence, and we make this a spiritual daily practice, not just on Sundays, but we challenge ourselves. This is the life he's offered me for every day. I'm not going to limit it to church day service time, but every single day. If we will live in his presence, the outflow of his presence is his glory and it will manifest and bless others. Well, we're able to come to you for one reason, because of the generosity of Kenneth and Gloria Copeland that they made a decision that no programmer on the Victory Channel would be purchasing airtime. They gift this airtime to every programmer as well as to me. And so what they're really doing, they're so to us as programmers, but they're also sowing to you as a viewer. So I would ask you if this broadcast is a blessing to you, if it helps you, if it feeds your life. There's an there is an appropriate response of honor toward that. And I would ask you that if you're not already a partner with Kenneth Copeland Ministries, pray about becoming one. And I would even say just act on becoming one. Why is it because it's always appropriate for respond rightly. And notice this that when partners give to Kenneth Copeland Ministries, what happens? They spend it in ways to feed your life. The word of God. It just keeps bringing these programs into your life and it ends up feeding you. It boomerangs back into your life and you can become a partner today by going to kcm.org you can follow the prompts there and sign up to become a partner. And until next time time remember this Jesus is the healer. God bless you.
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Nancy Dufresne
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Nancy Dufresne
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Host of Jesus the Healer / Possibly Grant DeFresne
I am so excited to share with you about our new worship album called Jesus the Healer Worship Volume 1. It is now available. On this I'm joined by my good friend Reba Rambeau, her daughter Destiny, and my son Grant DeFresne, along with others. These songs are important for the era that we're in. They're going to be a blessing to use in your local church as well as your own time of private devotional worship. Remember that you can get it today by going to defrainministries.org you can go to Spotify, Apple Music and other places platforms. For more information or for more ways to listen, scan the QR code on your screen.
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Nancy Dufresne
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