Podcast Summary: Jesus the Healer w/ Nancy Dufresne

Episode 114 – Jairus’ Daughter
Date: December 8, 2022
Host: Nancy Dufresne (Dufresne Ministries)

Episode Overview

In this episode, Nancy Dufresne explores the miraculous account of Jairus’ daughter from Mark 5. Through a detailed, faith-filled teaching, she draws out principles about faith, authority, and the spoken word, examining how Jairus’ actions and Jesus’ response provide a blueprint for receiving and ministering healing. The message emphasizes standing on God's Word amid crises and choosing faith over fear.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Setting & Importance of Studying Jesus' Healings

• [00:42] Nancy encourages listeners to revisit previous teachings on healing miracles, underlining the need to study biblical healings for both personal breakthrough and effective ministry.
• She highlights Mark 5 as the main text, focusing exclusively on Jairus' story.

2. Jairus – A Man of Position Who Chose Faith Over Reputation

• [03:58] Jairus, identified as a ruler of the synagogue and a prominent religious leader, risks his standing to seek Jesus publicly.
  • Quote: "Jairus is putting his position and his influence at risk with the other religious leaders...He found out my daughter’s important to me, not whether I’m still recognized and appreciated by others." — Nancy ([05:45])
• The act of publicly seeking Jesus demonstrates humility and prioritizing family need over personal prominence.

3. The Role of the Head of the Home in Leading in Faith

• [07:00] Nancy relates Jairus' example to spiritual leadership within the home.
  • Quote: "Being head of the home doesn't mean it all goes your way. It means you do what's best for everyone in the home...Jairus is being a faithful head of the home this day." ([07:40])
• She elevates the responsibility of leading the family toward God, highlighting that true leadership involves seeking God's intervention.

4. Facts vs. Truth – The Structure of Faith Confession

• [09:09] Jairus acknowledges the fact (daughter at death’s door) but immediately confesses faith in Jesus’ ability to heal.
  • Quote: "He’s telling him a fact. But then he follows the fact with the truth. The fact is this: she’s at the point of death. But the truth is, you lay your hands on her, she’ll live. Truth trumps facts." ([10:42])
• Nancy teaches it's not doubt to state your situation—as long as you immediately affirm God's truth over it.

5. Faith’s Two Locations: Heart and Mouth

• [14:04] Drawing on Romans 10:10, Nancy emphasizes faith must exist in both heart and mouth for manifestation.
  • Quote: "Faith has to be in two places to work...if you never put it in your mouth, you’ll go without." ([14:42])
• She reframes the verse for broader application: confessing with the mouth brings not just salvation, but manifestation of God’s promises.

6. Jesus Responds to Faith, Not to Fear

• [15:43] When Jairus confesses faith, “Jesus went with him.” Nancy teaches that Jesus always moves in response to faith, not worry or fear.
  • Quote: "Give Jesus words he can go with. He can’t go with worry. He can’t go with fear. Jesus always responds to faith." ([16:09])

7. How Reports and Words Shape Miracles

• [18:57] A negative report arrives: “Your daughter has died. Why bother...?” Nancy expounds how Jesus "overhearing but ignoring" taught Jairus (and listeners) the principle of not letting external voices override their faith.
  • Quote: "Circumstances will talk to you. But Jesus has something to say. The Word has something to say…Ask yourself, what does the Word say about this?" ([19:54])
• The miracle depends not on what others say—even the experts—but on what Jairus continues to say in faith.
  • Quote: "It's not the doctor's words that determines where your life goes next. It's your words." ([21:41])
• Nancy recounts a testimony where a woman, after a bad medical report, declared, "It doesn’t really matter what they say at this point. What matters is what I say at this time." ([22:18])

8. Fear: The Main Enemy of Faith

• [25:16] Jesus' first instruction to Jairus: “Do not be seized with alarm and struck with fear. Only keep on believing.”
  • Quote: "Fear is Satan’s flow. And I tell you what, fear can strike with force. Like a fiery dart, it can strike." ([25:45])
• Nancy shares personal testimony about her husband Ed’s cancer diagnosis. He immediately rebuked the fear that tried to rise in him physically:
  • Quote: "He said under his breath, no, you don’t. You get back down there. No, you don’t. And he said that fear went away. Well, that’s where it should be—under your feet." ([27:44])
• She stresses the need to confront fear with spoken words of authority.

9. The Importance of Your Circle During Believing

• [29:23] Jesus limits those who accompany him to Peter, James, and John. Nancy explains Jesus excludes unbelief to create an atmosphere for miracles.
  • Quote: "When you're believing God for a miracle, it matters whose voices you’re listening to." ([29:49])
• She also clarifies that spiritual authority matters—Jesus seeks faith from the parents, as their permission is key to the child’s miracle.

10. The Final Miracle – Faith’s Reward

• [32:42] Jesus raises the girl, healed and whole.
  • Quote: "Instantly the girl got up and started walking around, for she was twelve years old...Not only was she raised up, but she was healed of what killed her. If she hadn’t been healed, she would have died again." ([33:20])
• Emphasized: Even if fear comes, it doesn’t mean your faith isn’t working—answer fear with words of faith, and stay consistent in your confession.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Truth trumps facts. You lay truth on top of fact and watch the truth change the fact.” — Nancy ([10:51])
• “Faith has to be in two places to work: in your heart and then in your mouth.” ([14:42])
• “God goes where faith puts Him. Any time faith is there, God shows up.” ([16:32])
• “It’s not enough to believe the right thing. You have to say the right thing.” ([21:52])
• “It doesn’t matter what the devil says. It doesn’t matter what others say. What matters is what you say because you believe it.” ([34:12])

Key Timestamps

• 00:42 — Introduction to Jesus’ healing ministry and the relevance of studying healing miracles
• 03:58 — Reading Mark 5:22, introduction to Jairus
• 05:45 — Jairus risks his reputation for his daughter's sake
• 09:09 — Facts vs. faith: How Jairus presents his daughter’s need
• 14:04 — Confession and belief: Romans 10:10 applied to healing
• 15:43 — Jesus responds to Jairus’ faith
• 18:57 — Handling negative reports and the power of one’s words
• 21:41 — Whose words determine the outcome—doctors or yours?
• 25:16 — Jesus’ command: “Only keep on believing”; discussing fear
• 27:44 — Testimony: Rebuking fear during Ed Dufresne’s cancer diagnosis
• 29:23 — Jesus excludes unbelief before performing the miracle
• 32:42 — The miracle: The girl raised from the dead and fully healed

Episode Takeaways

• True faith acknowledges facts but always confesses God’s truth.
• The combination of belief in the heart and confession with the mouth activates miracles.
• You determine the direction of your miracle by what you say, even when others speak contrary to faith.
• Fear is the enemy of faith—confront it directly and immediately.
• Surround yourself with people who support your faith, not diminish it.
• Your authority, especially as a spiritual leader in your home, allows you to invite Jesus into your situation and see miracles.

Final Thought:
“Just because fear comes doesn’t mean it has to stay. Keep words of faith in your mouth. What matters is what you say because you believe it.” — Nancy Dufresne ([34:12])

For more faith-building healing teachings, visit DufresneMinistries.org