Podcast Summary: Jesus the Healer w/ Nancy Dufresne – Episode 119

Title: Healing & Righteousness, Part 4
Date: December 15, 2022
Host/Teacher: Nancy Dufresne
Podcast: Dufresne Ministries

Episode Overview

In this episode, Nancy Dufresne continues her teaching on the profound connection between healing and righteousness, emphasizing how living a life aligned with God's righteousness impacts physical health and the ability to receive healing. Through personal testimony, scriptural insights, and memorable faith principles, Nancy encourages listeners to live from the position of their identity in Christ—free from condemnation and empowered to walk in health.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Power and Presence of God for Healing

• Nancy opens by declaring that God’s power is present wherever you are—“There’s enough power in every sick room and in every hospital room to raise up that sick one” (00:13).
• Reception, not striving, is the focus: “Believe in what’s not... notice that He’s already made it yours” (00:32).

2. The Pool of Bethesda: Healing and Instruction

• Recaps John 5: Jesus heals a man crippled for 38 years but instructs: “Sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto you.”
  • Insight: “Sin will give you something worse... don’t go back to a lifestyle of sin” (02:30).
  • Righteousness: Sin can no longer lord over believers, but it’s important not to yield to it (03:13).

3. Righteousness: What It Means and Why It Matters

• Definition: “What is righteousness? Right with God. That means we do right, we be right, we think right, we act right, because we’re right with God” (04:14).
• Righteousness is a gift from Jesus—not from our own earning (05:35): “We’re righteous because Jesus did everything right, not because we did everything right.”
• Key Principle: The way we live affects our health (06:01).

4. Scripture Focus – 1 Peter 2:24

• “By whose stripes ye were healed” includes a call to “live unto righteousness” (07:07).
• Living rightly is essential for maintaining and receiving healing.

5. Unpacking Dad Hagin’s and Smith Wigglesworth’s Wisdom

• Citing Kenneth E. Hagin: “If you get your spirit where it ought to be, your body will start responding” (08:10).
  • Nancy expands: Compliance with God’s dealings in your spirit (your conscience) is key.
  • Correction, direction, and instruction from God are a flow of His love.
• Smith Wigglesworth: “Every new revelation calls for a fresh dedication.” (09:53)
  • Living up to new light from the Word is expected.

6. Personal Testimony: Becoming a Pastor

• Nancy shares about resisting God’s call to pastor for four years, despite doing the work.
• Jesus asked her, “Do you love me?...Then feed my sheep, Pastor” (13:28).
  • She realized she had to inwardly agree with God’s call, not just outwardly perform the role.
  • “Once spiritual things get in order, outward things start falling in line.” (17:53)

7. Biblical Example: King Hezekiah

• When told “Set your house in order, for thou shalt surely die” (19:26), Hezekiah inwardly corrected himself and God extended his life.
  • “Once his spiritual life got in order, the outward lined up” (20:41).

8. Guard Against Condemnation

• Warns against “sin consciousness”:
  • “We’re not blessed because we’re perfect; we’re blessed because of who we belong to” (23:43).
  • Jesus to Nancy: “You have failed many, many times. But I never have. So I share my success with you” (24:49).
• Focusing on Christ, not on our flesh or failures.

9. Living from Identity in Christ

• Don’t rely on “mental checklists” or dwell on failures; instead, listen to the Holy Spirit within for conviction and correction (27:11).
• “The devil will always try to get you to look at your flesh... He’ll never point you to your spirit, because in your spirit is the life of God, in your spirit is the victory” (26:39).

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On God’s Healing Power:
  “There’s enough power in every sick room and in every hospital room to raise up that sick one...” (00:13)

• On Righteousness:
  “We’re not righteous because we earned something...we’re righteous because Jesus did everything right.” (05:35)

• Living Aligned with God’s Dealing:
  “When you live in line with how He’s dealing with you, then your conscience is clear and your faith will work. When your conscience isn’t clear, your faith doesn’t work.” (11:50)

• Personal Revelation:
  Jesus said, “‘Do you love me?’...Then feed my sheep, Pastor.” (13:28)

• On Spiritual vs. Outward Change:
  “Once spiritual things get in order, outward things start falling in line. Too many times we’re trying to put outward things in place with spiritual things out of place.” (17:53)

• Freedom from Condemnation:
  “We’re not blessed because we’re perfect. We’re blessed because of who we belong to.” (23:43)

• Jesus to Nancy (On missing it):
  “You have failed many, many times. But I never have. So I share my success with you.” (24:49)

• On the Devil’s Tactics:
  “The devil will always try to get you to look at your flesh... He’ll never point you to your spirit, because in your spirit is the life of God.” (26:39)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• [00:13] Power and presence of God for healing
• [02:30] Sin, healing, and Jesus’s instruction (John 5)
• [05:35] Righteousness as God’s gift
• [08:10] Getting your spirit “where it ought to be”
• [09:53] Living up to new revelation/light
• [13:28] Nancy’s story: resisting and embracing her pastoral call
• [17:53] Spiritual order affecting outward circumstances
• [19:26] King Hezekiah: inward correction brings healing
• [23:43] Warning against condemnation
• [24:49] Jesus shares His success with us
• [26:39] Identity in Christ, not in the flesh
• [27:11] Avoiding mental condemnation; listen for the Spirit's direction

Conclusion

Nancy Dufresne’s teaching in this episode brings together scriptural principles, practical application, and personal testimony to encourage believers to align their inner life (their spirit and conscience) with God’s direction. Living in righteousness, free from condemnation, and in agreement with God’s call, believers can walk in divine health and fulfill their calling—because “Jesus is the Healer.”