Podcast Summary: Jesus the Healer w/ Nancy Dufresne – Ep. 124 | Let Down Through The Roof

Date: December 22, 2022
Host: Nancy Dufresne
Podcast: Jesus the Healer w/ Nancy Dufresne Audio Podcast
Episode: 124 | Let Down Through The Roof

Overview

In this episode, Nancy Dufresne explores the story of the paralyzed man let down through the roof as recorded in Luke 5:17-26. Her teaching focuses on how faith, action, and obedience enable believers to receive healing, the importance of faith-filled relationships, and the truth that what God provides is accessible to all, not a select few. Nancy draws practical lessons from the passage and shares memorable anecdotes, emphasizing that God's healing power is present and available—it's up to each listener to cooperate with it through faith.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Setting the Stage: The Power to Heal is Present (00:10 - 06:10)

• Kenneth Copeland encourages listeners:
  "There's enough power in every sick room and in every hospital room to raise up that sick one... power is present. That power is there to do a work... notice that he's already made it yours. It's present right where you’re at. Say, 'I receive that power.'" (00:10)

• Nancy Dufresne introduces the teaching:

  • Emphasizes studying Jesus’ healing ministry verse by verse to learn how to receive and minister healing.
  • Points out that Jesus taught on healing because what is taught is what manifests:
    “If you need healing, you have to feed on healing. If you want healing to flow in a service, you have to teach on it.” (03:55)

2. Teaching Creates an Atmosphere for Power (06:10 - 09:20)

• Spirit-anointed teaching produces an environment where God’s power operates:
  “When we teach the Word as it ought to be taught, power will begin to manifest.” (07:03)
• Nancy shares her desire as a pastor to give people "sheep food"—practical teaching for everyday challenges:
  “What do you do in the middle of the night when your baby’s sick?... I want to give them something to live on every day.” (05:29)

3. Faith in Action: The Paralyzed Man and His Friends (09:20 - 15:40)

• Luke 5:18-19: Four men bring their paralyzed friend to Jesus, demonstrating faith through their actions.
• Faith Friends:
  “They loved their friend. These four men were interested in their friend being healed… You need to have faith friends, because... your faith might not be able to arrive by itself, but if you have faith friends, they’ll help haul your faith up.” (11:37)
• “Faith does not need an entrance. It’ll make an entrance.” (12:51)
• Memorable Quote:
  “Faith will do whatever it takes. This is a prime example of faith doing whatever it took. And what it took was hauling the man up on the roof... Faith will inconvenience itself.” (13:23)
• Wrong Attitudes About Healing:
  Nancy corrects the notion of passively waiting for God:
  “Don’t lay in your house and just expect God to show up and dump something on you. Get up and go to where power’s flowing.” (14:39)

4. Faith that Acts Receives (15:40 - 18:05)

• Active Faith:
  “Faith can go further. He saw their faith. Faith becomes visible through our actions. People can say they have faith, but you’ve got to see what are they doing.” (16:55)
• Sin and Healing:
  Jesus connects the man’s forgiveness with his healing.
  “When sin entered the earth through Adam, sickness entered... Jesus let the man know, your sins are forgiven you. The devil cannot use sin on you to disqualify you... If you’ve done something wrong, repent.” (17:28)

5. Reasoning vs. Faith: Pharisees’ Doubt (18:05 - 21:40)

• The Pharisees reason and argue, which Nancy defines as “doubt in disguise.”
  “If you get in that mental arena, get in that arena of reason, you’ll end up arguing against God instead of for your miracle.” (19:58)
• Which is Easier:
  “Don’t you call your condition hard? Now, it might be hard to the medical industry, but don’t accuse God of the same limitations. With God, it’s all easy.” (21:01)

6. Obedience Opens the Door to Miracles (21:40 - 24:50)

• Jesus commands the man to take up his mat and go home.
  Nancy emphasizes:
  "Jesus gave him something to obey. Why does God tell us to do something? Because we are co-laborers with God." (23:05)
• “Obedience is your invitation for him to do his work. Your obedience is your faith.” (23:45)

7. Receiving for Yourself: Don’t Just Watch Others (24:50 - 27:10)

• Only the paralyzed man is recorded as being healed in this gathering—despite the power being present for all.
• “You can go to church if you’re not careful and just appreciate seeing others get blessed. But what about you? God wants you to have your answer.” (26:00)
• “Don’t leave the power in the room. Take it home with you.” (26:45)

8. Illustrative Testimony (19:03 - 23:04)

• Nancy shares a story from her ministry in the 1980s:
  • A drug dealer admits his struggles and asks for healing.
  • Nancy prays for his blind eye as a visible sign and connects it to the invisible, spiritual healing God gives:
    “Let’s get your eye healed as proof to the congregation... They can be set free too.” (20:10)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Kenneth Copeland (00:10):
  “Power is present. That power is there to do a work… notice that he’s already made it yours.”
• Nancy Dufresne (11:37):
  “You need to have faith friends… if you have faith friends, they’ll help haul your faith up.”
• Nancy Dufresne (12:51):
  "Faith does not need an entrance. It’ll make an entrance."
• Nancy Dufresne (13:23):
  “Faith will do whatever it takes. This is a prime example of faith doing whatever it took.”
• Nancy Dufresne (19:58):
  “If you get in that mental arena… you’ll end up arguing against God instead of for your miracle.”
• Nancy Dufresne (21:01):
  “With God, it’s all easy.”
• Nancy Dufresne (23:45):
  “Your obedience is your invitation for him to do his work. Your obedience is your faith.”
• Nancy Dufresne (26:00):
  “God wants you to have your answer. God wants you to have your need met. Don’t just be content to watch someone else partake. Become a partaker.”

Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:10 — Kenneth Copeland opening faith declaration
• 03:55 — Teaching manifests what is preached
• 11:37 — Importance of "faith friends"
• 12:51 — “Faith does not need an entrance…”
• 13:23 — “Faith will do whatever it takes…”
• 16:55 — Faith acts are visible to others
• 17:28 — Sin and healing connection addressed
• 19:58 — Reasoning as doubt; warning against it
• 21:01 — “With God, it’s all easy.” Shift your thinking
• 23:05 — Obedience creates atmosphere for miracles
• 26:00 — Call to "become a partaker" of God’s power

Conclusion

Nancy Dufresne’s teaching in this episode is both encouraging and practical, urging listeners to actively cooperate with God’s healing power through faith, intentional actions, and obedience. She challenges listeners to refuse passive mindsets, surround themselves with faithful friends, and personally receive all that God has made available—never content to be a mere observer of others’ miracles. The episode closes with an invitation to study more healing miracles through her book, reinforcing a continual lifestyle of feeding on God’s healing Word.

Resources:

• Dufresne Ministries
• The Healer Divine book by Nancy Dufresne

Key Message:
The power to heal is present—faith takes action, obedience opens the door, and what God offers is for you. Don’t leave His power in the room—take it home!